WEBVTT - How can a lake explode?

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from house Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. Chuck Bryants with me. Say hey, Chuck, Hi, Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing. I am recovering from Kids Day? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck and I Actually I didn't volunteer. Chuck volunteered himself

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<v Speaker 1>and me yes to wrangle kids for Kids Day. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you that adult to kid ratio was one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half the one and I'm still wiped. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>There were literally four kids and what like eight of

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<v Speaker 1>us eight adults? No six six? Yeah, I was worn out, man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids Day is just awesome to the energy. Actually, my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite part to day was when he brought him on

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<v Speaker 1>the tour and then we brought him into the studio

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry looked like she was about to crawl out

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<v Speaker 1>of her skin. Yeah, yeah, our producer Jerry does not

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<v Speaker 1>like kids. It turns out that was awesome. She put

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<v Speaker 1>on a real sweet face and was smiling, going hi everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>And then the kids got in the sound booth and

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<v Speaker 1>screamed to see if we could hear them, and we could.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are fun, especially twelve year old, So I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>it's over. Yes. I actually actually got tapped to do

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<v Speaker 1>it again next year, did you No? I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of figured we did such a bang up job though

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<v Speaker 1>they'd want us back. Yeah. Well, anyway, thanks for that, Chuck. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about exploding lakes then. Okay, okay, sure, So, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen a three hundred and twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>foot tall cloud of death? There's a bathroom joke in

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<v Speaker 1>there somewhere that my wife would appreciate. But the straight

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<v Speaker 1>answer is no, your wife like scatological humor. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. I her for that. She's dirty.

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<v Speaker 1>She seems way too intelligent for that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>She is, but that means nothing. Still scatological. Well you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had you lived around a little late call

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Nios in August of nineteen eighty six, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have seen a three d and twenty eight foot tall

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<v Speaker 1>cloud of death, and had you walked in it, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have died. It was frightening. I bet it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck sent me this great picture that you think we

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<v Speaker 1>could post that on our blog? When this comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>and he keeps saying that we actually that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been today with the face transplant, and I did not

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<v Speaker 1>get the rights to that. So did you try to

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<v Speaker 1>get the rights? I did. I looked into it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>such a liar, okay, Well, Chuck sent me this great

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<v Speaker 1>picture of all these dead cows just kind of fallen

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<v Speaker 1>over on their sides around the lake in nine six.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically what happened was on I think the evening of

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<v Speaker 1>August one, all of a sudden there was this big

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<v Speaker 1>rumbling sound and Lake nas Is it's pretty substantial lake.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's over six hundred feet deep. Yeah this

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<v Speaker 1>is in Africa. We haven't even said that. I'm sorry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in cam rout Um. And uh, there was this

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<v Speaker 1>rumble from within the lake, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>this huge column of water shoots out of the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the lake, hundreds of feet in the air. And

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<v Speaker 1>as its columns going, this this cloud that eventually becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred meter tall cloud starts to develop. But the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is it's kind of hovering close to the lake,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a really heavy cloud. And then this cloud

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<v Speaker 1>gets the bright idea of moving off of the lake

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<v Speaker 1>and down into the populated valley, which is I guess

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<v Speaker 1>just where the airflow took it, I guess, And it

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<v Speaker 1>clung very low to the ground. It sunk. Basically, it

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<v Speaker 1>just followed the ground into the valley. UM. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you think, hey, there's a cloud. Um, what

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<v Speaker 1>harm can a cloud do? But the people who took

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<v Speaker 1>that attitude paid with their lives, to the tune of

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen hundred of them. Right, people up to fifteen miles

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<v Speaker 1>away from the lake. Uh died livestock, livestock people. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people were knocked unconscious. It depended on the concentration

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<v Speaker 1>the secret ingredient will get too in a second. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people were were unconscious for like thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>hours and they wake up and all their livestock and

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<v Speaker 1>their families dead. Unbelievable. I mean, no, imagine this, like

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<v Speaker 1>really put yourself into that situation. You're hanging around, you're

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<v Speaker 1>living your life of an idyllic, a grarian life, around

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful lake which is supposedly used to be this

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous blue was really really pretty, and um, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the lake blows up and there's a cloud

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<v Speaker 1>of death that kills your entire family and knocks you

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<v Speaker 1>out for a day and a half. Well, in the

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<v Speaker 1>lake turned did you see the after photos that turned

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<v Speaker 1>really brown? I didn't. In the water level lowered and

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<v Speaker 1>uh it was. It was disgusting. It looked like before

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<v Speaker 1>after photo of like a hundred years of like pollution

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And this was overnight. Yeah yeah. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>finally after about two days, as cloud dissipates, but not

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<v Speaker 1>before it moves through village after villages, killing people. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so obviously when people started to come in to

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<v Speaker 1>investigate what happened, they find all these dead bodies. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the government got involved and rightfully so, yeah, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like an X Files episode. Definitely, It's exactly what it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like. But it was real. Yeah well X Files

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<v Speaker 1>is real too, really sure, based on real accounts. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as I know, every single one did not. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Um so yeah, So the government gets involved, which means

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<v Speaker 1>science gets involved, because you know, being an elected official

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily make you a science e type. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not an egghead, right, far from it, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>the Cameroonian government recruited some scientists to say what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell just happened? There's people that were killed by cloud

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<v Speaker 1>of death. What has happened, Chuck? What happened in August

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<v Speaker 1>of six at Lake NIO's cameroon. Well, Josh, the secret

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<v Speaker 1>ingredient and now you know, the answer was CEO two

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<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide. Yes, pretty simple. But where did it come from?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing is they they quickly realized that it

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<v Speaker 1>was CEO two. That wasn't the hard part. Figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>actually how this cloud came up from the lake was

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<v Speaker 1>a hard part. And there were a couple of theories

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. One is that um and underwater volcano

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<v Speaker 1>had erupted and pushed this gas up, which sounded pretty

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<v Speaker 1>plausible to me and actually looked at some of the

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<v Speaker 1>old articles and that's kind of what they said it

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<v Speaker 1>was for a while, right, Well, there's a split camp, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that they went through and set up

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<v Speaker 1>the British Geological Survey set up some seismographs around the

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<v Speaker 1>lake and there should have been some small aftershock earthquakes

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<v Speaker 1>and they measured nothing. Not. They also didn't find any

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<v Speaker 1>sudden sulfur levels um that that would have been residual

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<v Speaker 1>from a volcano explosion, right right, So that one kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got scrapped and they went with the other camp,

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<v Speaker 1>which was which was a gigantic, deadly burp basically is

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<v Speaker 1>how it's described in the article, which is exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. So I guess we need to go back

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<v Speaker 1>in time too, when lat Night was formed to really

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<v Speaker 1>understand this, right, we need our backend time music. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so n six, Chuck, Um, what Ghostbusters is sweeping the nation? Right? Well, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to go back when late now it was formed.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't in Oh, we have to go even further back.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's our time travel music again. So, Chuck, what

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<v Speaker 1>year are we in? I mean, this place doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>very heavily populated. Well, it's a long, long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about thousands of years before Ghostbusters. Yeah, seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight thousand years maybe, um, And that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a guestimation. So if someone from Cameron writes in

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<v Speaker 1>and says it was actually nine thousand years, then give

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<v Speaker 1>Chuckers a break on this one. It's a long time ago. So, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>Cameroon in Africa, there's some there's a lot of weak

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<v Speaker 1>spots in the crust around that area. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>what magma is I do. It's a molten lava that

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't reached the the Earth's surface yet exactly, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>like liquid rock. And it's another way to put it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It rises from the Earth's mantle and shoots up quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and vertically, and it cuts a tube towards the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it reaches the surface, the magma can rain

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<v Speaker 1>dine rained down a big pile of rock to form

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<v Speaker 1>a cinder cone volcano. Right, absolutely, you're with me? Or

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<v Speaker 1>did you have okay? Can I say the other part

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<v Speaker 1>because it's yeah, yeah. Or if this magma which is

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<v Speaker 1>shooting up out of the ground comes in contact with

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<v Speaker 1>wet rock, an explosion happened, huge explosion and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what formed Like Nios, it's on a big crater. It

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<v Speaker 1>just went kaboom and all of a sudden there's a crater.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this crater started to fill in over the

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<v Speaker 1>years and now it's a volcanic crater. Like yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>take a crater add water lake in a very pretty

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<v Speaker 1>long day. So basically that's what happened. Um, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>at the bottom of the lake. You have an old

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<v Speaker 1>tube where the magma rose up and uh to the

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<v Speaker 1>surface and it remains there. So if you go down

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<v Speaker 1>about six miles you'll hit the magma. Right, it's staying

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<v Speaker 1>down there, yes, but there's still CEO two coming up

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<v Speaker 1>through this column right right, but it stays trapped because

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<v Speaker 1>of the fact that, like Nias was six D and

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<v Speaker 1>you know some on feet deep right, there's a every

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three ft there's in one atmosphere of pressure UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is about twenty atmospheres, which is dense

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<v Speaker 1>and heavy enough to keep a bubble of gas held

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<v Speaker 1>down at the bottom right right. The problem is is um,

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<v Speaker 1>the gas builds up in every kind of lake there is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>every lake, every pond. Um. I didn't know this. This

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting. I didn't either, but I'm gonna pretend like

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<v Speaker 1>it did because watch me go. Um. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>when leaves another organic matter, dead fishies fall to the bottom. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they they produce gas c O two, maybe methane, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. And this happens in anybody you of water, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is in most climates and temperate climates, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an actual gas exchange that happens annually. When the

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<v Speaker 1>temperature is cool, the surface water cools and goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom. Which displaces the gas, and it happens very

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<v Speaker 1>calmly and casually, and there you go, there's no explosion. Yeah. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with Lake Nios and other lakes and Cameroon

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<v Speaker 1>is that there isn't a seasonal change. It's warm all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. There's never that turnover, and this bubble of

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<v Speaker 1>gas that's coming up from the magma shaft gets bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. Right, I

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<v Speaker 1>think magma shaft would be a good pseudonym for you

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<v Speaker 1>that is a good student of magma shaft. Yeah, magma shaft,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh yeah. Basically it acts like a champagne cork

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<v Speaker 1>called this water sitting on top of it. And in

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<v Speaker 1>order actually kind of left out the part of the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning that something needs to happen to trigger the gas

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<v Speaker 1>to be released. It's just not just gonna happen on zone.

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<v Speaker 1>And they think it may have been like a rock slide, right,

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<v Speaker 1>or an earthquake. And usually what happens is the whole

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<v Speaker 1>bubble doesn't get displaced, or the whole layer of gas

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get displaced. Part of it will, but since it's

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<v Speaker 1>a one big cohesive layer, one part of it being

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<v Speaker 1>ripped off will displodge the rest of it, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you've got a huge column of water

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, unbelievable gas CEO two going everywhere forming a

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<v Speaker 1>cloud of death. Ba boom bata being se villagers and

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<v Speaker 1>countless livestock dead. And this happened a couple of other times.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And after there's two other like Cameroon is lousy

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<v Speaker 1>with exploding legs. Well, it's because of where it's situated. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is true. Check. It's situated over a very thin

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Earth's crust, as you said, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's two more lakes Lake Monoun that's what I gathered,

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<v Speaker 1>or mon Noon, and like Kivu. Yeah, both of those

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<v Speaker 1>have had incidents as well, but not nearly as deadly. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Kivu hasn't happened yet. Oh, it hasn't. Lake Kivus

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<v Speaker 1>between Rwanda and Congo. And that one, if it does happen,

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<v Speaker 1>would be a an amazing, an amazingly catastrophic natural disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twice as deep as Lake Nios, which again remember

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<v Speaker 1>killed people from the cloud it produced. Uh So this

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<v Speaker 1>one's twice as deep. Um, and there's about two million

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<v Speaker 1>people living around it, right, so they would be in

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<v Speaker 1>really big trouble if Lake Kivu all of a sudden erupted,

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<v Speaker 1>and it most likely will. It's it's Uh, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>studying it and apparently it's right there about to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's doing a thing about it. Yeah. No, they

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<v Speaker 1>just finally got around to doing something about like Nios,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to talk about that. Yeah, it's a great segue. Actually, Josh, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>you're natural. Thanks, you've been doing this a year. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a one year universary, by the way, does any

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<v Speaker 1>no one even recognize that? No, I didn't even know when. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a fan come in and we had our Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no fan, a fan wrote in and um said that

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<v Speaker 1>it was our one anniversary and we all said or

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<v Speaker 1>one episode, which I remember, the hundredth episode. Yeah, one

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<v Speaker 1>year university. Well, happy anniversary, beautiful you two, you two Jerry, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>happy anniversary, Jerry. So enough of that. Um, Yes, what

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<v Speaker 1>they basically came up with a really basic Some some

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<v Speaker 1>of the coolest ideas in science to me are so simple,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you would have thought a kid came up with

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<v Speaker 1>this idea basically, like the space shuttle. Yeah, exactly, this

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<v Speaker 1>thing make a big plane that goes into space. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to de gass it with a big straw. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They just basically put a pipe the bubble and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden a bunch of CEO two water came

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<v Speaker 1>up and they they de gassi it a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times a year, I'm sorry, a couple of times a day,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah, and there's a webcam. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>the webcam? No, I saw a picture of it. Looks

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<v Speaker 1>like one of those lakes at like a country club subdivision,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cheesy Fountain. Exactly, that's exactly what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know there's a webcam. Do you know the address?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't off the top of my head. But what

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<v Speaker 1>do you type in like nine use webcam de gassing webcam?

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<v Speaker 1>You can probably find it. But before you go there,

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<v Speaker 1>you should know that the last image is from November

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<v Speaker 1>of last year, so it looks like it may be uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not actively running anymore, because I think the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>of a webcams to show things live as it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so too. Yeah, not from November last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's basically what they did. They put the first

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<v Speaker 1>pipe in in two thousand one a French engineering team.

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<v Speaker 1>But the sad thing is that these these foreign scientists

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<v Speaker 1>who came to uh Nios to figure out what happened

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<v Speaker 1>said pretty quickly like, this is what we should do.

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<v Speaker 1>We should drop a straw in that. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>one the first pipe pointed. But I read that they

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<v Speaker 1>were hoping to have the CEO two levels down by

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<v Speaker 1>next year. That's what I read. So we'll see what happens. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it looks a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 1>it used to as well. It's pretty good. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's back to where it was six when it

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<v Speaker 1>was really really cool looking, like, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the brown mess that it was right afterward either,

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<v Speaker 1>with floating in it and stuff. So you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear something interesting always, Well, first of all, these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of exploding lakes are actually called limnic eruptions. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>scientific word for it. And we understand the explanation. But

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Cameroon who had lived around Lake nyos

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<v Speaker 1>Um had another story for it, and basically they they are.

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<v Speaker 1>The gist of it is that every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>evil spirits rose from the lake and killed people in villages.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not entirely certain why. Probably because they were evil spirits, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what that's called what it's called a euhemerism,

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<v Speaker 1>really when something's explained in a different uh, when a

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<v Speaker 1>myth is clearly based on historical occurrences. So they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that these exploding lakes had happened before in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>while people were still living around pre science though, so

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<v Speaker 1>they explained it with evil spirits, emergency from the lake,

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<v Speaker 1>but pretty much the same result, cloud of death at

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<v Speaker 1>c O two, cloud of death made of evil spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>There's in the end, you're still dead and so is

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<v Speaker 1>your livestock. Right, can you imagine being uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as man evolved and started to figure things out, when

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<v Speaker 1>they started thinking and saw a volcano, like what that

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<v Speaker 1>must have I mean they probably thought the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>that some some someone was trying to kill them. They

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<v Speaker 1>did on evil spirits, didn't they. And now when science

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<v Speaker 1>is around there like how does my face read? I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no secrets anymore. It's kind of disappointed still plenty,

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you know how the space shuttle works? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I could go read about it, and I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you could figure it out, So Chuck, um, Yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got Lake Nyos. It seems like under control, Lake Kivu

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<v Speaker 1>is still a problem. So they haven't stuck the straw

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<v Speaker 1>on that one yet, not as far as I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's one in Ecuador, Lake Quilatoa, and that

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<v Speaker 1>one's about if it erupted, it would be on the

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<v Speaker 1>level of the degree of iOS. Right, So there's exploding

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<v Speaker 1>likes just waiting for a limnic eruption all around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you live in the tropics near a lake,

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<v Speaker 1>move set your advice. That's my advice. Yeah, So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think? Is it done? Did we do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we covered everything. You're feeling pretty good? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we plugging things any longer? Let's see the blog plug?

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<v Speaker 1>The blog plug it I like the plug from the

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<v Speaker 1>one the face transplant, the hulk one. Blog good? Yeah, Chuck, Josh, right,

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<v Speaker 1>blog fire bad, fire bad? Should we just read that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we just reuse the one from that we recorded before? No? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry saying no, so start fresh, Chuck. Okay, here we go. So, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a blog. We've been plugging this like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of a plug analogy, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can't think of any. We've been plugging this for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on the right side of the home page, just

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<v Speaker 1>where you can get it, so text speak and tech speak,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've gotten a lot of fans interacting now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is cool. And I'd also like to point out that

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<v Speaker 1>the blog is now where you can go just for

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<v Speaker 1>a little news. Josh and I are kind of venturing

0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:08.199
<v Speaker 1>out into these little UH opportunities now, being interviewed on

0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:12.320
<v Speaker 1>ABC News by the way, being tickled by strangers for money.

0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Little things like that are starting to pop up here

0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and there. So the blog is, well, we'll promote that

0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.840
<v Speaker 1>and let people know where they can support us and

0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. Yeah, I gotta tell you to chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very grateful for some of my friends, like my

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<v Speaker 1>friend s G. Actually UH is much smarter than me

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<v Speaker 1>and knows all sorts of stuff that I get fed

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<v Speaker 1>that makes me look smart because I just go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and post on it. I was just one of the

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<v Speaker 1>blog commenters. Yes, yeah, nice. Yeah, so I'm smart lost

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.080
<v Speaker 1>without my smart people, Yeah, be lost without them. That

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<v Speaker 1>was heartfelt. Thanks. I rarely see that out of you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm usually just so just dark and angry

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<v Speaker 1>and evil like a siftboard kind of, except without the

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<v Speaker 1>red face paint. Right, So I guess that's plugging. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the plug fest. You guys have been plugged. And

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<v Speaker 1>now it's time for in their mail. Oh not yet, Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>And now right now it's time for listener mail. Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>you just have one under the banner of exceptional exceptional.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry listener mail. That is a long one, Chuck. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna read the whole thing, and I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do my scan thing. This comes to us from Helen

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<v Speaker 1>in Guatemala, specifically in kits Altenango, Guatemala, and she is

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<v Speaker 1>writing in about the twelve episode. She lives in the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Highlands and there's still mine people there, lots of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, she has been fascinated here so much about

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<v Speaker 1>this twenty twelve stuff, but only from US media outlets apparently. No,

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<v Speaker 1>none of the mines are talking about No one cares about.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the impression too when when I was researching,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we even mentioned that that. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very much western, Yeah, very much. She said. Our own

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<v Speaker 1>calendar begins every week, month, the year, et cetera. The

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<v Speaker 1>Mind calendars all function in a circular rather than linear

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<v Speaker 1>concept of time and form cycles that repeat infinitely, so

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<v Speaker 1>they don't believe the world's gonna end to any particular

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<v Speaker 1>point on the calendar. The repeating cycles are based on

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of keeping counting of the passage of time,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very important in the culture. So she did

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<v Speaker 1>want to compliment us that we've come closest to just

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<v Speaker 1>completely debunking this than most US media outlets. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>it to the Belgians though, right. She did want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out, however, that I believe at one point one

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of us said something about the Mind calendars are used

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<v Speaker 1>in secret. She said, that's not really true. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get them in bookstores all over the place there and

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<v Speaker 1>they are used, and different calendars have different uses, which

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was interesting. There's three major ones, and everyday

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:51.639
<v Speaker 1>calendar for planning everyday stuff fitting link, a religious calendar

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<v Speaker 1>for planning rites and ceremonies, and an agricultural calendar for

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<v Speaker 1>planning planting and harvesting. And they still use these and

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<v Speaker 1>can get books on how to use them, and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a really kind of an interesting thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>I can see that daily calendar, you know them selling

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<v Speaker 1>it like things to do today if you're mining, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stock up on canned goods in case world and so

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<v Speaker 1>Helen thank us. And she's in Guatemalan. Cool, cool lady,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Helen. We appreciate it. If you live in Guatemala,

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