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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with IR Radio. Hello, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Matt's premiere episode. Wow. Um, pretty standard first episode. UM.

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Speaker 1: Loved the way Matt just naturally fit into the role.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna recap that in a little bit. First,

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Speaker 1: we just wanted to say a quick hello to the

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Speaker 1: one and only Benjamin Higgins. Hello, what's up? Ash Well?

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Speaker 1: This is an episode to remember. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: great season. We'll have two great seasons back to back.

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Speaker 1: How lucky are we, Ashley. Today we have a huge

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Speaker 1: podcast in front of us. We're gonna break down the

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Speaker 1: episode with Blake Hortzman. Um. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 1: been watching on Instagram, but he loves breaking down these episodes.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be great at it today with us.

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Speaker 1: And the one thing you get with Blake because he

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Speaker 1: doesn't hold back, and so I think I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have an interesting, uh breakdown today. I'm pumped for it.

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Speaker 1: We'll give our means on that a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: merch It's really fun stuff. And because our podcast name

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Speaker 1: and just you know, just really, Hey, what's up? I'm

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Speaker 1: almost famous? Almost aren't we all just almost famous? There's

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Speaker 1: a good country song out right now about being famous

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Speaker 1: in your hometown. Uh, and it's incredible. It rings true

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Speaker 1: out there listening. So yes, go to my fan threads

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Speaker 1: dot com slash almost Famous, Ashley before we take a

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Speaker 1: break here and bring Blake on. I just had a

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Speaker 1: really emotional moment in my life. You want to hear it?

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Yes. So I'm a fan of the

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Speaker 1: Dan Lebotard Show. I don't know if if if Jared watches,

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Speaker 1: or if you watch this this is it's a really

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Speaker 1: interesting show. Uh. Dan Lebotard's on ESPN, which is obviously

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Speaker 1: owned by Disney, and he's been on for ten years.

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Speaker 1: And the cool thing about Dan Lebotard is he his dad,

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Speaker 1: Um immigrated from Cuba and is able to be on

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Speaker 1: the show with him. His dad is an amazing character.

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Speaker 1: They named Poppy Well. Uh. ESPN and Dan are parting

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Speaker 1: ways after today. Uh. So they did a really cool,

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Speaker 1: like you know, send off where they kind of back

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Speaker 1: you know, showed all the episodes in the past and

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Speaker 1: good memories for all of us who have tuned in

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Speaker 1: and watched it and got in our sports knowledge and

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Speaker 1: pop culture knowledge from the show. But guess what the

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Speaker 1: very last thing Dan Lebotard had to do, like very

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Speaker 1: last thing before he went talk about who his favorite

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Speaker 1: lead on The Bachelor was. No, no, no no, he had

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Speaker 1: it close. He had to announce that The Bachelor is

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Speaker 1: airing on ABC tonight and he was so frustrated. He

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Speaker 1: even says he's like, this is ridiculous. The day before

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Speaker 1: I leave a ten year tenure, I have to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Bachelor. Well, hey, we're here to talk about

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor. We're gonna keep talking about the Bachelor. If

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Speaker 1: we didn't talk about the Bachelor, that would be weird.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna take a break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're a Blake Hortsman on breaking down this week's premiere

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Speaker 1: episode of Matt James season has promised our next guest

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Speaker 1: is somebody who is familiar with breaking down the episodes.

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Speaker 1: In fact, he does it every week on the Behind

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Speaker 1: the Rose podcast. You can listen to that wherever you

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Speaker 1: listen to podcast. He also doesn't on his Instagram. He

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Speaker 1: was born and raised in a small town of Bailey, Colorado, Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Blake Hortsman joins us right now. You would know him

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Speaker 1: from season fourteen of The Bachelorette, and at that point

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Speaker 1: he fell for Becca Koufrin. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: that in here in just a bit, but until then, Blake,

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Speaker 1: how you doing well? Man? Thanks for having guys appreciate it. Hey, Blake, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we want to we want to recap the episode with you,

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Speaker 1: and then there's a couple of headlines that we'd like

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Speaker 1: to talk about that you pertain you. So okay, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. I played all those headlines on you, Ashley.

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Speaker 1: For the record, I can't. I'm not too innocent in

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Speaker 1: all this, alright. So top of the episode, very standard, right, um,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we actually got a lot of him tonight,

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Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. What do you think of him

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the more you like you

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Speaker 1: Matt is Um, it's relatable. Uh. He isn't used to this.

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Speaker 1: You're starting to really get into that like whole mindset.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have that, Like he goes right in a

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Speaker 1: whether he didn't have a season before so like the

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Speaker 1: about Matt. There's two things I didn't mention that I

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Speaker 1: that he was friends with Tyler and that's how we

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Speaker 1: He didn't specifically mentioned that he had been signed up

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Speaker 1: for Claire season. They alluded to it. That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I was afraid of that, honestly, I was like, are

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Speaker 1: I was afraid of that, you know, But I think

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Speaker 1: was like they wanted us to get to know them Matt,

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Speaker 1: you know, as the Bachelor, which I like. I thought

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Speaker 1: he needs to invest in the show. Like which is

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Speaker 1: with their story is Maggie. Maggie's from Ethiopia. She's thirty

426
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,479
Speaker 1: two years old. She's a model, uh, absolutely beautiful. Now.

427
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: Her story is something that's super intriguing, and I'm really

428
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 1: excited to get her on the podcast at some point

429
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: because I want to know what it's like to be

430
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 1: in the United States for I think it was eight

431
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 1: to nine years now, um, to come over here for

432
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: school to be a pharmacist and somehow, some way. I

433
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: have no clue if that they didn't share it, share it.

434
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: She ends up on this show absolutely wild, But I

435
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 1: am now convinced she's a front runner because I think

436
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 1: Matt loves stories and I think he loves hearing the

437
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: heart and the soul of these women. So yeah, she's

438
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: she jumped off the screen at me. She's gorgeous. That

439
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 1: accent like it works both ways. Men love accents to

440
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 1: you know, not just women, like she jumped off the

441
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: screen of me. And I mean, it is pretty wild

442
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: to think that. Like I think in her bio it's

443
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: and some about her winning the lottery basically to come

444
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 1: to America and then she basically went to lottery again

445
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: to go on the Bachelor. It's a wild story. Yeah,

446
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to hear here. And I'm sure she'll

447
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: get a one on one at some point, I hope. Yeah,

448
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 1: she carried herself with a lot of grace. I really

449
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: got good vibes from her. Another story that we heard

450
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: was from Abigail. Abigail is deaf. Um. She has a

451
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 1: cochlear implant, so she's able to hear well enough and

452
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: she speaks um pretty you know, pretty much clearly, you

453
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't really pick up the fact that she was having

454
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: a hearing um. She has a hearing problem um. But

455
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: she she talked about that with him, and she also

456
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 1: talked about her relationship with her sister and the way

457
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: that he looked at her before going in for that kiss.

458
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he is feeling it and he

459
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: was definitely having like oh, I'm the bachelor is kissing

460
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 1: on the first night, Like okay, I think I'm gonna

461
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: go for a moment. I loved seeing it evolve. Yes,

462
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: that's so, that's so true. They had this like weird,

463
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: not awkward, but it was like it was so awkward.

464
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: It was like that first kiss awkward. Can I kiss you? Can?

465
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: I not? Like Yeah, it was just like they kind

466
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: of looked at each other and she was like he

467
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna kiss me and and he was like is she

468
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: gonna kiss me? And then she kind of started talk

469
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 1: again and that's like you know what I and just

470
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: went in for it, which I thought was fantastic. Yeah,

471
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: but again, yeah, they're them together. I so she's my

472
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: preseason faith. Like even before I watched this episode, I

473
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: was like, I think I don't know something about her,

474
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 1: like smile sometimes I feel like you can just sometimes

475
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: somebody's a good person. I could be wrong, I don't know,

476
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: but I felt like he was super comfortable with her

477
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: for some reason. I just felt like he let his

478
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: walls down more than anybody else. Um he did that night,

479
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm excited to see they're they're connecting involved.

480
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 1: I don't think we can downplay that kiss either, Like

481
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: I don't think Matt James is somebody that wants to

482
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: go kissing too many people this season. In fact, I

483
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: could almost go as far as saying I know that,

484
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: like I I believe uh and and am fairly certain

485
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: that this isn't something that he's just gonna throw around

486
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: to fill awkward space, Like he's not just gonna kiss

487
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: because the conversation is weird. So this kiss on night one,

488
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: after a few minutes minutes of knowing each other, I

489
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: think is a big deal. Obviously she gets the first

490
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: impression Rose as we all know, but a big deal

491
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: for like of the storyline that they're going to have

492
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: because I think Matt James is smitten right away and

493
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: all he needs is to be smit with one person,

494
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: especially I like, yeah, I zoom her to top three already.

495
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: I feel like our top three is almost I mean,

496
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: given the past few seasons have had sleepers who make

497
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: top three. But if I had to choose, these are

498
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: my top three, and I want you guys to give yours. Rachel, Bree,

499
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: and Abigail. So that's that's almost those those are so

500
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go top four hometowns. I was going home town,

501
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: but I also have Bree, Rachel, and Abigail in there.

502
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: And then I think, who's the girl that was from?

503
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: She had the truck, the pickup truck. She was North Carolina.

504
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: Yea her name, I know. I was trying to think

505
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: of her name. I can't remember it. But I think

506
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: she the hot the sweet tea thing was super sweet,

507
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: and he seems like they seem to click, and I

508
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: think she might be the fourth inning. I don't know

509
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: what to order, but I think that's the fourth that's Kayla, Kayla, Yes,

510
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: I think Kayla. Yeah. So my top three. I'm never

511
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: good at this. I lose every time him and in fact,

512
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: most of the girls I choose go home the second week,

513
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: but I believe that I'm onto something this week. My

514
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: top three right now are Abigail, Maggie, and Sinai, and

515
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: then I'll throw Rachel in as number four. I I

516
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: was just so into how into Rachel was to Matt, Like,

517
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: I just thought that was the cutest thing ever. And

518
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: I think she really likes him, and so I'll use

519
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: that as my top four again, that's Abigail, Maggie, Sinai,

520
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: and Rachel. I love Rachel. I loved her dress, I

521
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: loved her makeup, I love her face, I love her

522
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: just personality, her vibes. I loved how moved she was

523
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: by the prayer because the prayer did a lot for

524
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: me too. I thought that was a beautiful way of

525
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: starting the night and something we've never seen before. And

526
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: it just did feel, as Rachel said, so authentic. Yeah

527
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: she like didn't she like tear up almost like after

528
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: his prayer. Yeah, that stood out to me too. I

529
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, Like she seems super genuinely. I like her.

530
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: The prayer was a really pivotal point in the show. Um,

531
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: because I think it's set the tone for who Matt

532
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: James is right and what he's looking for. I think

533
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: all these women right away knew Matt is a man

534
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: of faith. Um, that his faith is gonna hopefully, uh,

535
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: well it is going to guide him with you know,

536
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: good decisions, bad decisions, gonna still gonna guide him no

537
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: matter what through this experience. And it also shows what

538
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: he's looking for. He's looking for somebody to probably uh

539
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: come into his life with him and share that faith.

540
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: Helped grow that faith, uh, explore that faith, and it

541
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: was a great way to start this season. Um and

542
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: and here it might be the thing that surprised me

543
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: both right, Like, my faith is very important to me.

544
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: I honestly never thought about starting my season out with

545
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: a prayer. Never crossed my mind, never even considered it. Now,

546
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: say what you want about that whatever. But for a

547
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: guy to do that with no experience, with no prep

548
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: for this, super nervous and says, no, this is how

549
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, like this is gonna be me

550
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: from day one, I thought was an incredible thing for

551
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: us to see him do as the Bachelor. Yeah, I

552
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. And it was he nailed the

553
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: prayer too, because sometimes I think a prayer it can

554
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: alienate some people on occasion, like if you say it wrong,

555
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: but he it was never like I hope that I

556
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: find it why. It was like, I hope we enjoyed that,

557
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's all about we like really was able

558
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: to like bring people and I thought it was fantastic too.

559
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: And I didn't expect to like it, and I did

560
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: loved it, loved it. Uh. And then another person that

561
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: I think is worth mentioning about like having a strong

562
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 1: right off the back connection would be Bree, who you know,

563
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Blake and I put into our top threes fours. Bree

564
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: was the person I thought was going to get the

565
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: first impression Rows and was the person that I was

566
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: comparing his conversation with Abigail too, because I just felt

567
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: like both were deeper conversations. He was really connecting looking

568
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: at them in a way that he was like, I'm

569
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: feeling this with Bree. He was relating to her on

570
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: the fact that they both come um, they're both by

571
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: racial and they just seem to have very similar backgrounds.

572
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Both of their parents were divorced and they had issues

573
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: with romance because of it. So I really thought that

574
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: was going to lead him to the first impression Roles.

575
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: But I'm happy with with the fact that I would

576
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: have been happy with either of the two of them

577
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: getting it. Well, let's move on to pause here for

578
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: a second. Talk about things now that we know about Matt.

579
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: We've now gone through the entrances, the ones that set

580
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: out to us the start of the show. But some

581
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: of the things now that we know about Matt is

582
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: that he's a Christian. He was raising a Christian household

583
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: and he believes that still to this day. Also that

584
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: he's very close with his mom, and his mom and

585
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: dad separated when out of young when he was young,

586
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: and the relationship with his dad isn't as much there

587
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know to what extent yet, but

588
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: it's not there. It's he didn't obviously have his dad

589
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: show up to the show. Uh, he speaks about kind

590
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: of being really close with his mom, so he kind

591
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: of are getting the hint to him and his dad

592
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: are not too close. Now. This obviously is a story

593
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: that you know, Like as we talked about the beginning

594
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: of episode, we thought we knew a lot about Matt,

595
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: but this was something I didn't know and something that

596
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: takes a lot of vulnerability. As he asked for in

597
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: the women. He asked for himself right away is to

598
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: share some things that are probably the hardest for him

599
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: to speak about. Yeah, I mean, I I was surprised

600
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: how because I know, like you said, we don't really

601
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: know Matt going in UM, and I was surprised how

602
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: much we already got to know about Matt, like within

603
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: the first episode. I really feel like I got to

604
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: know a lot about him. I think there's still more

605
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: to come, but yeah, I mean that's one thing that

606
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't even honestly, I didn't know

607
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: his faith was as prominent in life as it is,

608
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, And so I think it's I think it's

609
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: great to see this side of Matt. I know we

610
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: touched on earlier, but it was just amazing how within

611
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: this episode I feel like he was He got to

612
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: be so routable, uh so well liked, and people have

613
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: never met him before. Just it's it's it's really crazy

614
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: how attached I feel to him and how much I

615
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: want him to find love through knowing him for an

616
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: hour and twenty minute TV time. I even we even

617
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: got to see a little goofy s out of that too,

618
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Like I love there was one moment where I was like, okay, man,

619
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: that's when he was playing chess and he like moved

620
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: that one piece likeng and that girls like can you

621
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: do That's like, no, I'm just playing, just making sure

622
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: you know how to do it. I was like that

623
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: was like sometimes when you're too nervous, you don't mess

624
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: or joke around like that. You know. So I think

625
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: that show that he was like relaxed a little bit

626
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: in the role, and I was like, okay, like that

627
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: was a funny move. You know, just those little things

628
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: sometimes we Uh. I think it's almost promised that we're

629
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna have two really good seasons back to back at

630
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette now the Bachelor. But some side topics that

631
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: don't really fit into anything but that are obviously gonna

632
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: be big storylines that we need to bring up and discuss. Uh.

633
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Cynthia Raleigh, uh daughter Kit is now on the show.

634
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: Uh Kit came in. Cynthia Raley is obviously known uh

635
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: in the fashion world. She's a huge name. Uh. Kit

636
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: is obviously the one that kind of goes against Victoria,

637
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: Queen Victoria saying no, I'm the president of the CEO.

638
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: You know, whatever was going on there, Uh, what do

639
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: you think about somebody that are you know, she's considered

640
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: a socialite already in New York. I think that's something

641
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: that mentioned. What do you think of somebody that's already

642
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: a socialite coming onto the show with the name that

643
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: she has. Is gonna be a lot of attention on her.

644
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Obviously we're talking about her, and she really don't have

645
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: a big part in this episode. Yeah, not really. I mean, yeah,

646
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: the Victorian kid thing, I think's gonna go that might

647
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: be the two on one this season. You know, I

648
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: feel like that's gonna be fun to watch. But I'll

649
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: be honest, I, you know, reading her bio and the

650
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: socialite thing, I was like, oh my god, this girl

651
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be super I don't know the word I'm

652
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: looking for, Like you know, I'm calling yeah, exactly, Like,

653
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: but honestly, I didn't think she came off as about

654
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I thought she was pretty sweet and everything. But we'll

655
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: see if she can, you know, keep that up with it,

656
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: because I think her and Victoria are going to have

657
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: a pretty big feud. Um. Yeah, I mean all, you're right.

658
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna I think she's gonna have a

659
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: bigger part the rest of the season than she did

660
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, but I also feel like she'll be

661
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: the person that we're really rooting for against Victoria, because

662
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: Victoria was already driving me nuts the first night, and like,

663
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: sometimes the villain can be funny at first, but like

664
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: I didn't find her funny whatsoever. I love the way

665
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: Kit was standing up to her. I love kids a

666
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: sense of confidence. She she might be a little boogie um,

667
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: but she really does. She like knows herself and she's

668
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: not going to put up with any crap. I think

669
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: she's really pretty and she's only twenty one. She definitely

670
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: comes across far more mature, at least in the way

671
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: that she can't handle herself now emotionally, we'll see. Yeah,

672
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: I thought it was super You're you're right about Victoria.

673
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: Like I think some villains sometimes can be like a

674
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: bit charming and kind of likable. But I'm I'm scared

675
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: for Victoria. I don't think she's going to come off

676
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: that um. So it's gonna be interesting season to see her. Yeah. Yeah,

677
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: but she's the kind of villain who like she was there,

678
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: like she she put herself there and gave herself this

679
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: persona right off the bat on purpose. Yeah, I agree,

680
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: she's not she's backing away from episode and I don't

681
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: think it's just always shocking to me. Every season is

682
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: still show ox me, like, and I think it shows

683
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: a lot about your character. Right. We've talked about with Tasha,

684
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: we talked about it with Claire, We've talked about it

685
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: season after season. But you know that Matt James has

686
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: a massive night in front of him with Todd trying

687
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: to talk to every single one of these women. He

688
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: is going to be exhausted, like understand what his role

689
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: is right now, Yet somebody still chooses to interrupt him

690
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: two or three times or however thinking that like that

691
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: is the right thing to do at that point in time.

692
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I will say this for anybody watching the show. When

693
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: somebody does that, your alert system should go off and

694
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: go I gotta keep my eye out for this human

695
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: because they are about to cause havoc. It happens every

696
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: time and somehow there they do it year after year

697
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: after year. Um, and it's just not okay. It's not

698
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: respectful of Matt, it's not respectful of the other women.

699
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: It's exhausting, and ultimately, like at some point, like Matt

700
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: has to look at Victoria and be like can you

701
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: just not for five minutes, like just give me breath. Well.

702
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: Another big story to discuss here is Heather M. Heather

703
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: M shows up in the highlights and the kind of

704
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the recap at the end of the episode. Do you

705
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: think she shows up to the season. I mean, it

706
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: looks like she does. She shows up to be part

707
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: of the season for sure. Whether or not she's let in,

708
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: we don't know. It definitely seems like she's not the

709
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: only girl that shows up beyond night one too, there's

710
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: another girl. It seems like she has closer ties to

711
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: Matt with Heather. I'm thinking because she's such close friends

712
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: with with Hannah that she was like Hannah was encouraging

713
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: her to do it and uh and thinking that they'd

714
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: be a good match. But not coming on night one

715
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: is a no no. You if your Heather, you try

716
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: to come on on night one and that'll be fine

717
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: and totally fair. Yeah, I agree, I think I mean

718
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: she must become I mean, yeah, you're right, like she

719
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: must obviously come on to try and be on the show,

720
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: whether Matt lets in or not, or that you know,

721
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 1: she gets a rose or not. But that's the only

722
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of like a connection between it,

723
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: but it really is only Hannah be like, I don't.

724
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if Heather's maybe hung out with Matt before,

725
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, pre show, like it's some kind of event

726
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: or something and she hit it off. Um maybe, and

727
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: maybe that is there's something we don't know. Me they

728
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: did have like a connection at some event or something,

729
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: But as far as I know, Hannaby is the only

730
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: connection they really have. So it's gonna be interesting to

731
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: see how that plays out. And then the final one

732
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: is Tyler eventually makes an appearance. Now we just talked

733
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: about Tyler earlier. Uh, you know what how Matt was

734
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: going to manage you know, being known Kyla kind of

735
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: as Tyler's friend for a while now being the Bachelor.

736
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: But Tyler does come onto this season, what are your thoughts?

737
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not shocks, you know. I I figured

738
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: Tyler would come on, and I try and like think

739
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: of it, like there's been a lot of people who

740
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: come on. I mean there was Um for hand, Toby,

741
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: it was like Demi, uh and someone else. Can we

742
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: remember they the best friends up? Yeah, So I don't

743
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: want to read into it too much, like, oh, look,

744
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: they're trying to bring Tyler into steal some of Matt's spot,

745
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to think of it, as they

746
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: were really close even before shows. So it's even better

747
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: than bringing in like Demi for Hannah because they've known

748
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: each other for years, you know, and so I hope

749
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: hopefully they do have an actually good conversation and they

750
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: get advice some things. So, but what I'd want for

751
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: Tyle or it is for him to come in later,

752
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: like when we get to top six or whatever, so

753
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: we can actually get a good evaluation of what he

754
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: thinks of his remaining ladies. Did it seem like he

755
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: came in super early? I couldn't tell. Probably, I don't know.

756
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: I feel like it's probably gonna be middle middle at

757
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: least like ten or something. Those screeners always always confused me,

758
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: and I'm always up in arms. Yeah, they say something,

759
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: there's a word taken out of place, and all of

760
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm watching for it all season. You know,

761
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: there's an ambulance that comes up and somebody's sick and

762
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: it ends up just you know, being nothing. But uh well, okay,

763
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: let's end this thought with this Blake. We're gonna bring

764
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: you back after the break to talk a little bit

765
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: about you and break down some headlines with you. Um,

766
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: but to sum up this episode, I want to hear

767
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: your ratings and your final thoughts. So anything we didn't

768
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: get to please share and also give your rating on

769
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: the premiere episode of Matt James this season. Uh, we'll

770
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: start with Blake, So you want like rating of the

771
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: one to ten, one to ten, reading of one to ten.

772
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: Let's see. Honestly, this was a good It was a

773
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: good first episode, I think mostly because I got to

774
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: know Matt more than I thought that I would. I

775
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: thought it would be, you know, sometimes this first episode,

776
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: since we already know the lead, we get more of

777
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: like the girls. But I thought I really got to

778
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: know Matt here. I'm gonna give it a solid heart ache.

779
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a hard ache because I always

780
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: gave him from proven So I'm gonna give it a

781
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: hard eight. Crap, you took my number. I was going

782
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: to give it an eight to I would normally give

783
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: an episode like this a seven. I feel like, you know,

784
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: it's a little too methodical Night one at this point,

785
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: but I'm giving it an eight because it did do

786
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: such a good job at getting us attached to Matt,

787
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 1: and it really highlighted him. Um. As far as Matt

788
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: as a bachelor, I'm going to give him a ten

789
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: so far in this episode, I would give it an

790
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: eight and a ten as well. Matt being the Bachelor's

791
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: a ten. Considering everything um that went on, I thought

792
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: it was a great episode. I really enjoyed getting to

793
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: see these women. I thought, unlike last season, at the

794
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: very beginning, I felt like we really got to know

795
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: more of the personalities of these women right off the bat,

796
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: Like there's some women that I could like that sit

797
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: out to me that I know the names of after

798
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: week one, which I didn't know until Week four of

799
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: last year. You know, of the Bachelorette season, A great episode.

800
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it for the future. Uh, let's

801
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, we're gonna

802
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: have Blake on still to talk about his life and

803
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: everything going on with the rumors of Becka Koufern and

804
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: his opinion on the Kelly and Peter breakup. We'll be back.

805
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: We still have Blake on. Blake. Uh, here's the headline

806
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: from US Weekly. I'm gonna read it to you and

807
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: I just want to hear you, respond, says Blake Hortzman.

808
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: Collapsed back at and I quote stupid comment after supporting

809
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: Peter Webber amid split from Kelly Flann again. Wait what

810
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: what's the headline? Let me repeat it. This is a

811
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: good moment for us. You're gonna learn about it as well.

812
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: It's according to US Weekly that yeah, it says Blakesman

813
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: collapsed back at stupid comment after supporting Peter Webber amid

814
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: split from Kelly Flann again. Let me read it to you.

815
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation bros. Blake Horseman took aim at an insensitive

816
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: comment after showing his support for Peter Webber amid the

817
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Pilot split from girlfriend Kelly flannagain. Keep your head up, brother,

818
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: Horseman thirty one commented beneath Webber's a breakup announcement, to

819
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: which one Instagram music replied, this is a stupid thing

820
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: to say to someone. The Bachelor in Paradise a lump

821
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: fire back. What you said is a stupid thing to

822
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: say to someone. God, they would read an article about anything.

823
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I had no idea that was even out there. I mean, yeah,

824
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: I just wrote. I just wrote under neath you know,

825
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: like when you know what I would do it under friends,

826
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, um pictures And I was like yeah, keep

827
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: your head up. And somebody was like, that's stupid thing

828
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: to say, like really, like, I feel like, but you

829
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: just said it's a stupid thing to say. Um. Yeah,

830
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: these situations are always really hard and tempers are high

831
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: and everything because you know that everybody's got their faiths

832
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: and you know, so it's always always get funny. Anytime

833
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: I comment on somebody's photo in fascination, I get some

834
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: kind of their stagecoach joke in there. I get so

835
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: many saying something so I'm used out there. So I'm

836
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: glad you could respond to it. Appreciate that. So do

837
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: you know anything about their breakup? No? I don't, Actually,

838
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: I really don't. Uh. I was shocked when I remember

839
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: waking up in the morning I saw the post. I

840
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like I had I feel

841
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: like they were just going to move in in New

842
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: York and I don't know, I guess, uh, I think

843
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: they'll obviously something's gonna come out. I think it happened

844
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: just so fast that something must have drove into that.

845
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't really and they didn't even take time, like

846
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, some people be broken up for like three

847
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: months and then post a picture and like you know,

848
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: and you know, a post with a caption and everything.

849
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: But that was quick. So I mean there's no hope

850
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: of getting met together. I feel like then they didn't

851
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: think there was any promise in that. So I don't know.

852
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: It's interesting. We'll see what happens, but I don't know anything.

853
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Ben and I are going to discuss

854
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: more about their breakup later in headlines, um, but more

855
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: headlines pertaining to you. Last week, we discussed how Rebecca

856
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: Koufrin revealed on her Instagram M stories that your date

857
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: during her season was her favorite. It was a little

858
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: shady towards her ex beiance Garrett. How did it feel

859
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: to see that up there? I mean that date was

860
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Okay, that day was great. If

861
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: you guys remember like we got to break all of

862
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: like no shade to Ri but like we gotta break

863
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: all of our stuff, you know, and like kind of

864
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: like quote unquote like get rid of the memory of

865
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Ari so she can move on. Um. So I know

866
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: the date was fantastic, list and I think I think

867
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: people right into it, like they do everything. We're did

868
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: into it a lot, and you know, it wasn't like

869
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 1: what's your romance most rantic date. It was like literally,

870
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: what's your you know, most fun date, and like she

871
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: said that one. So but I mean, yeah, it was

872
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: fun date. So it's felt good. I guess it was

873
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: a fun day. And I agree that was probably my

874
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: favorite day, one of the my favorite dates, um that

875
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: I've done, if it, whether it be Bashade or paradise.

876
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: So did that stir up any sort of like d

877
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: m NG between you two, Well, we've we've been in

878
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, contact like d M s and stuff, and

879
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: like we're friends, you know, so it's not like we

880
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: haven't d M before. But of course I was like, okay,

881
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: like I reposted it. Actually I think I think I

882
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: reposted it. Um, So yeah, of course we like talk

883
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: on um. I mean, I know we asked you this

884
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: last time and it was also a post breakup, but like, no,

885
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: no rekindling there. We're still just friends. We're still just friends.

886
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: Uh that is that where that ends? Still just friends? Yes,

887
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: still just friends. But it is pretty cool to see

888
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: how the support out there. A lot of people wanted

889
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: to get back together. I've been seeing that like crazy,

890
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: Um no, we are still just friends. I think I

891
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: can speak on behalf of us that we are shipping this,

892
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: but we also may be shipping you in a lease

893
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: who have been spending a lot of time together. And

894
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: I know that last time we asked you, you guys

895
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: were also still just friends. But it seems a little

896
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: bit more suspicious now because of all these ins stories

897
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: you've been posting. Now were we really are? Me and

898
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: e lisare like really close friends. Um. I met her

899
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: at the Bachelive on stage, and then she came to

900
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: my my DJ set out there in Scottsdale, and we

901
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: just became friends and over you know, the pandemic, we

902
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: talked here and there. Um. And now she's just a

903
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: good person and you know she's she's she She's always

904
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: somebody easy to talk to and can be there for you.

905
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: And so she's just been there. And then I just

906
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: happened to be out in Scottsdale for a golf tournament

907
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: and I went and hung out with her and she

908
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: made me a funny Christmas ugly Christmas start with my

909
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: face on it. That kind of know. Me and me

910
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: and a Lis are just friends. We always have been. Um,

911
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: she's great. Sorry, we can confirm she's been great to

912
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: us in the podcast. Yeah, she's been awesome really since

913
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast, kind of supporting us, help

914
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: us out, and then coming on and sharing wisdom and

915
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 1: advice with us. So hey, we love Elise. Also we

916
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: we as well, Ashley and I are just friends with her.

917
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: But like any time I hang out with anybody, you know,

918
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: any any female, any of the opposite sex, I'm dating,

919
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: you know, hooking. You know so well, you lead yourself here.

920
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: What was the last time you went on a real date?

921
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I keep my dating history private, actually super private.

922
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: We did watch the football game together this weekend. In fact,

923
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: we did, yeah, I mean had a big date this weekend. Okay, Well,

924
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: you guys and we asked Blake a whole bunch of

925
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: questions about whether he would ever do Bachelor in Paradise

926
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: or anything in the franchise ever again during our in

927
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: depth episode, which is you know, it's an evergreen episode.

928
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: If you guys didn't catch it back in April, you

929
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: can go back and listen to that now. It was

930
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: April sixteenth release and Blake, um, I have no further questions. Okay,

931
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: I blame all of this on you asked you and

932
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: Jason started this back of thing. So that's on you.

933
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: It should continue to if I if it's up to me,

934
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: it should just keep happening until it happens. Well, hey, everybody,

935
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: if you want to hear more of Blake uh in

936
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: his co host Eric, make sure you listen to Behind

937
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: the Rows. That's everywhere you can listen to podcast. Blake Horseman,

938
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, thanks for sharing the time. Uh,

939
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: and we'll be talking to you, I'm sure again sometime soon. Yeah, absolutely,

940
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: thanks guys, appreciate good sing by. We're back with another

941
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: breakdown of Bachelor headlines. They continue to flow in and

942
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: we continue to talk about him. This week's top headline

943
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: is one that we've hinted at discussed, but we're shocked

944
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: by Uh. Bachelor's Peter Weber and Kelly Flannagan split. The

945
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: quote is these moments in life always hurt this. According

946
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: to US Weekly, we're real the only ones that were

947
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: shocked by this. Apparently there have been signs on their

948
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: social media, but I guess I don't keep enough tabs

949
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: on them to know that they hadn't been featuring each

950
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: other lately. I did have a little red flag go

951
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: up in my head during Christmas week when they weren't

952
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: spending Christmas together, But I was like, hey, nine month relationship,

953
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think you have to spend

954
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: or there's an expectation to spend Christmas together nine months

955
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: in Yeah, and but I heard something. I don't know

956
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: if it's true or not. Our listeners always know this

957
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: more than we do sometimes, but I heard that Kelly

958
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: Flanagan was ring Peter Webber like face socks on Christmas. Really. Yeah,

959
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: so I guess this was a thing. And so it's

960
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: obviously happened in a short amount of time where things,

961
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're rocky before, and this just was

962
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: kind of something happened that kind of made it made

963
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: them decide, hey, this isn't for the best. But yes,

964
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: I would say that you and I both are shocked. Like,

965
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: without social media, this seemed like a couple who had

966
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: made it through quarantine, who were traveling together, who were

967
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: obviously connecting each other's families. It was surprising to me

968
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: that they are no longer in a relationship. Yeah, and um,

969
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: apparently one of the dividing moments for them was like

970
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: the move to New York, because I know that in

971
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: our hot topics in the past few months, we've been

972
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: talking about how they planned on moving to New York together,

973
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: but that somehow created a point of division for them.

974
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: So who knows what what's there? You can of course

975
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: dissect and lies. There two separate Instagram posts Peter posted

976
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: on the thirty one December, Kelly posted on January three.

977
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: It seems like they're on good terms. Kelly says that

978
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: they are in two different stages of their life and

979
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: saw their future paths differently, and then Peter said that, um,

980
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, they decided to go their separate ways. Love

981
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: can make you feel on top of the world. It

982
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: can make you feel pain, you wish you didn't didn't

983
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: have to that didn't have to exist. Um. He said

984
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: that they have countless beautiful memories. The relationships simply didn't

985
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: work out. Kelly is someone that he'll always have a

986
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: special love for. So we don't have details. Of course,

987
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna air right away what happened. Um,

988
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 1: but they seem on good terms. And of course Peter's mom,

989
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: Barb had to speak up on the half of the

990
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: break up and she had to do it public, so

991
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: she wrote under Peter's Instagram saying love can be fickle,

992
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: and it is not for the timid. Those who have

993
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: experienced it know this all too well. But it is

994
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: better to have loved and lost than have never to

995
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: love at all. Our hearts ache for you too. Kelly

996
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: will always have a piece of our hearts and we

997
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: wish her only the best, Mom and Dad. I'd also

998
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: like to take a second here and say that I

999
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: found out this week that barb is on Cameo, so

1000
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: she might be the old is the only parent that's

1001
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: ever gone on the show that that has a cameo

1002
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: or a own brand per se for herself. I think

1003
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: that Barbara costs as much as Jared and I do

1004
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: on cameo. Well, there you go. I don't know how

1005
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: that makes you feel. Uh Well, this headline is one

1006
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: that I'm glad we're talking about. There was rumors and

1007
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: there's questions about Zach Clark, who obviously Tasia pickni in

1008
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: and who is now happily engaged to Tasia. Um you know,

1009
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: there was drinks shown of him, that he was shown

1010
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: drinking something during the show, and some people wondered, well,

1011
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: if you are sober, how are you drinking on the show. This,

1012
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: according to people, Actley what we got. Well, he was

1013
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: always drinking apple cider or ginger ale, And I'll tell you,

1014
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: apple cider and ginger ale sound a lot more appealing

1015
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: than the champagne that they give you at rose ceremonies.

1016
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Do you remember the taste of that champagne? It is

1017
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: the cheapest champagne. Oh, it's so bad. It has a

1018
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: specific it's a specific taste. And every time I have

1019
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: a glass of champagne on the set of The Bachelor

1020
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, I get thrown back to a rose ceremony

1021
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: and like having those the ease like that like post

1022
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: traumatic stress and sorry, bad term, but you know what

1023
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean of going through a rose ceremony and that

1024
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: sweet relief of getting through. So it's just one of

1025
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: those tastes that's so nostalgic to me, just not good.

1026
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: And now I'm rambling. The bottom line here is Zack

1027
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: never drank. And there was a moment I think it

1028
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: may have been the Top four Rows ceremony when Tatia

1029
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: said that she got handed a glass of champagne and um,

1030
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: she said no, she sent it back and asked for

1031
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: some apple cider to join Zach and drinking and not drinking,

1032
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: and she said that that was one of the moments

1033
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: that she knew when she just made that impromptu decision.

1034
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: How sweet. Well, um, yes, it is true that the

1035
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: you know what, My theory is that the champagne, it's

1036
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: just saved over season the season, like why are you

1037
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: buying brand new Basso champagne every season? So there she

1038
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: could be champagne on there from like Bob Guinea season

1039
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: that now we're consuming, which hey, champagne might be better

1040
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: at I don't know for vintage. Yeah, I don't call

1041
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: it that. Well, this headline is one that's been talked

1042
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: about all weeks, but not shocking to anybody who is

1043
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: in Batch nation who has been on the show, or

1044
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: anybody's ever watched the show. However it is, it has

1045
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: been an interesting story to see unfold. The headline means

1046
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: this Chris Harrison not leaving Bachelor franchise despite move to Texas. Yes,

1047
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: the move to Texas is confirmed, but Chris Harrison is

1048
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: going nowhere. Yeah, this is just no. You don't put

1049
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: these two together. Just to let you know, they only

1050
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: film about two weeks in l A. And in those

1051
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: two weeks, well, Harrison stays in his house because his

1052
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: house is very close to the Bachelor mansion. But um,

1053
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: most of the production crew stays in a hotel those

1054
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: two weeks anyway, So if Harrison is getting rid of

1055
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: his California house, and I would assume that he's probably

1056
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna have someplace he keeps there, um, even if he's like,

1057
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, downsizing. He films maybe a total of one

1058
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: month out of the year in l A on a

1059
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: typical non COVID year, So I think that he can

1060
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: keep his primary home in Texas and fly out to

1061
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: wherever they're shooting, which, let's hope starting I don't know

1062
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: next Bachelor season they're able to travel again, but who knows. Anyway,

1063
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: you guys, Uh, logically, this makes total sense for him

1064
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: to be able to live anywhere he wants in America

1065
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: and continue to be the host of The Bachelor. Yeah,

1066
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many positives living in Texas. L A. Obviously,

1067
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: um is gonna look different here post pandemic than it

1068
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: did before. There's a lot of people moving, and a

1069
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: lot of stars do travel for work. Ryan Seacrest is

1070
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: one of those. You know, he's like by coastal. He

1071
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: goes from l A to New York for the Ryan

1072
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: and Kelly Show, and then back for American Idol and

1073
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: his radio show there. This isn't shocking, UM, but Matthew

1074
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: McConaughey lives in Texas, definitely, So Chris Harrison is from Texas.

1075
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: He's moving back to Texas to be closer to his family.

1076
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: Good for him. He also has um a new or

1077
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: it's I don't know if it's completely now, but you

1078
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: know that he has that bar. He's a big brewery

1079
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: that he's pertinently invested into. So good for Chris Harrison.

1080
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. You have to worry about that

1081
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: bachel Nation. That guy is here to stay and he

1082
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: just doesn't age, so why would we want to go?

1083
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Well better with age so much sexier now than he

1084
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: was a decade ago. The this headline reads, and it's

1085
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: one that we've been interested about, kind of behind the

1086
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: scenes and waiting to update you on until there is

1087
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: more information. UM. Kind of communicated, but Ryan Sutter opens

1088
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: up about no longer feeling alone amid mystery illness. Well

1089
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: we still don't know what he has, which I cannot

1090
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: imagine how that feels to be going through. But he

1091
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: said that he learned a lot about resiliency this year.

1092
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: He said. For years he's followed this ideal laid out

1093
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: by Gandhi that strength was measured by an abdominable will.

1094
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: He says he pushed himself to develop a mindset where

1095
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: he would never give up, never give in, never give

1096
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: off any sign of weakness. He did this mostly on

1097
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: his own, choosing solitude as his practice. UM but he

1098
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: said he had a few breakdowns, that fewer. He said

1099
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: that he had a few breakdowns um but mostly he

1100
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: said he internalized difficulty and distracted himself from the presence

1101
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: through physical exertion. He says his work for him. He

1102
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: said he felt confident resilient until this year, and this

1103
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: year he says that he's learned to ask for help,

1104
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: to lean on people around him. He said that Trista

1105
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: has developed a has developed a medical strategy to aid him,

1106
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: and he says that though he believes that there is

1107
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: a tremendous value in strong will and self reliance, he

1108
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: says he now realizes that sometimes those things are romantic excuses.

1109
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: So like nice ways of being stubborn, He says that

1110
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: it is sometimes necessary to let others in and to

1111
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: ask for help and to be able to accept it.

1112
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: We're with Ryan will continue to keep everybody updated as

1113
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: we hear more. Uh it is good to hear that. Uh.

1114
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: He you know, his strength internally has continued to show through,

1115
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: and then he doesn't feel alone. Being alone has to

1116
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: be one of the worst feelings any human can feel,

1117
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: and so worth Ryan and anybody else out there. Really

1118
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: during COVID, that's feeling alone. That's just not fun, and

1119
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: so reach out for help when needed. Uh. We have

1120
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: another kind of surprising illness that's hit Bachelor Nation. Bachelorette

1121
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: alum Emily Maynard reveals she was diagnosed with Bell's palsy

1122
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: while pregnant with fifth child, now Ashley. I have recently learned,

1123
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: uh how common Bell's palsy is. I. I you know,

1124
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: I've had a friend whose father had it as when

1125
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: we were children. I was kind of shocked, like when

1126
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: it happened, right, your face kind of lose has a

1127
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: lot of weakness, and your muscles kind lose their ability

1128
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: to function. But it's more common, uh people than I knew.

1129
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: And well, Emily Maynard has announced that she had Bells policy. Okay,

1130
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: so exactly my feelings. I was like, oh my god,

1131
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: Emily had Bell's policy or she has Bells policy. That's

1132
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: so serious. You know. I was just thinking that this

1133
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: is like a really big deal and I was gonna

1134
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: last her whole life. But apparently it comes in um

1135
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: increments or like it's often just temporary. Nobody knows the

1136
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: exact cause of the condition, which is super crazy. But

1137
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: she had it while she was pregnant. Um had to

1138
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 1: wear a patch. But it seems like she's fine. Now,

1139
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean was your was your friend's dad like just

1140
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like one day he had strength

1141
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: come back to his face. Yeah, it's kind of a

1142
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: more gradual process. I remember, so, like, you know, you

1143
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: start feeling like the twitching and the ability for your

1144
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: face to kind of function again. It comes back slowly,

1145
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: but it's coming for it to. It's it's most of

1146
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: the time temporary, at least that's according to the Mayo Clinic. Um,

1147
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: but it is it isn't uncommon and uh, but it's

1148
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: still I mean a very scary, a very scary thing

1149
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: to have happened when your face, you know, kind of

1150
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: loses his ability to function in the ways that you're

1151
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: normal with. Uh. Well, bachelor um Lauren Bushnell and country

1152
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: singer Chris Lane reveal their babies sex. Uh this according

1153
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: to Good Morning America, well what a cute gender reveal.

1154
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: So they're having a boy. And if you guys saw

1155
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: on Lauren's Instagram, she posted a video of them finding out.

1156
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: So they set up a golf ball that was filled

1157
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 1: with a powder, blue powder, and Chris hit it off

1158
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: the tea and it exploded into you know, a little

1159
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: blue smoke, and he was gigging out. It was so cute.

1160
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: It's it's like we see so many of these gender

1161
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: reveals these days that it's like, well, yeah, right, but

1162
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: like this one actually gave me feelings because this man

1163
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: was so excited about having a boy. Did you watch Ben?

1164
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: Is that that you can watch? Right? That's not Oh yeah, no,

1165
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: that's not weird of course. And I mean the best

1166
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: thing is he says he has his own little golfing buddy. Now,

1167
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: so uh, one of the yeah, I mean come on that.

1168
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: You know, my my dad and I are getting ready

1169
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: for the Diamond Resorts uh tournament here in just two

1170
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: short weeks. One of the coolest things is he caddies

1171
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: for me because we've grown up playing so much golf together.

1172
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: That's like one of the things that we get to

1173
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: do that we share that we can still do. You know,

1174
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: when I was young and he was younger, and now

1175
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: that he's older and I'm getting older, we can still

1176
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: do it the same way we did it before. Like

1177
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: I think Chris is spot on, Like one of the

1178
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: coolest things you can do in life is played golf

1179
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: with your son or daughter. But it's really fun to

1180
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: go out and play golf with your dad. It really

1181
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: helps bond you and and I know I always look

1182
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: forward to it. So congratulations to Chris and Lauren. A

1183
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: baby boy is on the way. Hey Ben, how do

1184
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: you feel about gender reveals? They're great for the grand

1185
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I can do one. Well, yeah,

1186
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: they're for the graham. Um, I didn't know there were

1187
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: a thing before social media, but I mean they work right,

1188
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Like it's a fun thing to do. I'm sure one day, uh,

1189
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: if all goes well, I'll be able to have a

1190
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: gender reveal of some sort. Um, It'll be fun for

1191
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: the family. I think one of the coolest parts about

1192
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: a gender reveal is probably the celebration with family afterwards.

1193
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: Like the whole moment of like, you know, finding out

1194
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: as cool, but it doesn't you know, maybe it does. Parents,

1195
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: let me know if I'm wrong. It doesn't change anything.

1196
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna love that child the same way if

1197
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: it was a boy or a girl. But it's exciting

1198
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: to find out the gender. Uh, and then celebrate whatever

1199
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: that you know the child's gonna be with your friends

1200
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: and family. I mean it's kind of fun. Another reason

1201
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: I have a party. Yeah, I feel like I kind

1202
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: of need a private moment. That's fair to Well, you

1203
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: can have it. We'll see, we'll play it by your

1204
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: maybe for the first one you do it and for

1205
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: the second one private moment, who knows. Anyway. Moving on

1206
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: to our last headline, The Bachelorrett's Mikey Tinarelli. Now here's

1207
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: something funny. I was just looking up Mikey Tinarelli last evening.

1208
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 1: Now it wasn't because of his engagement. It was because

1209
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: at least Dell Bomb had posted on her Instagram she

1210
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: was at some market shopping and she saw this like

1211
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: wet heated pad, so like it was a path that

1212
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: you got wet and then you heated it and it

1213
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: went on your body and helped relieve like muscle pain.

1214
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Why you would want a wet he I don't. I

1215
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: don't know that yet. I think I think the package

1216
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: said moist, which is just a really awkward word to

1217
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: use in marketing. But um, anyways, the cover of this

1218
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: package had Mikey on it, and I was like, I

1219
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: know I recognize this guy, I just don't know how.

1220
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: And so I was researching it, found out was him,

1221
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: and then find out that he's engaged to Kate Wood

1222
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: and it quote is best day of my life is

1223
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: according to people, very happy for Mikey. Um. I was

1224
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: down in Bachelor in Paradise too with Mikey. He within

1225
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: an hour picked my sister up and carried her into

1226
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: the ocean. He had a big crush on her for

1227
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. Okay, well maybe not a big crush,

1228
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: but he had immediate attraction to her, and it was

1229
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: funny because that is not her type. Um. But anyway,

1230
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: I am very happy because this is a guy that

1231
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: you could tell really wanted a wife and family and

1232
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,479
Speaker 1: now he's got it. So good, you know, good luck

1233
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: and best wishes for them. They got engaged at Nubs

1234
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: Nobe in Michigan, like right on the ski slope, so

1235
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: it's very very sweet to see this. It's actually nubs knob.

1236
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: We've been there, Okay, but you get it. Well, Hey,

1237
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: happy for Mikey, happy for Kate, Ashley, tell me this.

1238
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: We've now broken down the episode. We've watched the premiere episode.

1239
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: How excited are you for this Sason of the Bachelor? Well,

1240
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm very excited for Matt's too, hopefully find love. I'm

1241
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: a little bit worried that he's gonna freaking freak out

1242
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: and like he's gonna get scare himself off, don't we all?

1243
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's it just happens during that show.

1244
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: In fact, I was talking to a couple of posts

1245
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: or past Bachelor's um during the episode and the agreement

1246
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: with all of us, we're all saying the same thing, like, hey,

1247
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: it really looks like this hurts him. And knowing Matt,

1248
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, I know it hurts him, but he does

1249
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: break down. But here's the truth, so does everybody else.

1250
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: Like nobody makes it through this thing unscathed, unemotional. It's

1251
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: one of the in a sense, the most beautiful parts

1252
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: of the show is it pulls out raw emotion. Now

1253
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: when that emotion is manipulated, not cool. But when that

1254
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: emotion then transforms into a love story, or it transfer

1255
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: forms into one of these contestants becoming a better human,

1256
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: it's really really cool. And I believe that Matt is

1257
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: a great human going in, he'll be an even better

1258
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: human going out. Uh. And I'm super pumped for this

1259
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: uh this season. I think it's going to be absolutely incredible. Well,

1260
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: one thing I can say I'm sure of is that

1261
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: he does not leave this experience not having experienced love.

1262
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: He's definitely gonna fall in love. I think he will too.

1263
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: That man has a big old heart, and I think

1264
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: he has some contestants that I'm super excited to see

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Speaker 1: their stories uh kind of uh transform and involved in

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Speaker 1: front of our very eyes. Well. Hey, with that, this

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Speaker 1: has been another episode of the Almost Famous podcast. Yes

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Speaker 1: this is Matt James. Week one premiere episode will be

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Speaker 1: back next week with another episode of the Almost Humis podcast,

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Speaker 1: breaking down Matt James. Second episode that is promised to

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Speaker 1: be something incredible. With that, I've been Ben and I've

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Speaker 1: been Ashley. Guys, follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to podcasts.