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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and Each week on Beyond Contact,

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Speaker 3: we'll explore the latest news in upology, discuss some of

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Speaker 3: the newest cases as we talked with the top experts. Hi,

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Speaker 3: and welcome to Beyond Contact. I'm Captain Ronin. Today we're

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Speaker 3: going to be exploring Edgar Casey and unravel his insights

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Speaker 3: to non human intelligence and what he called ships in

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Speaker 3: the air or what we call UFOs. We have about

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Speaker 3: the best two people on the planet to do this

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Speaker 3: joining us today. We have Christopher Naughton, who is currently

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Speaker 3: the CEO of Edgar Casey Association for Research and Enlightenment.

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Speaker 3: He has an extensive professional background in law, broadcasting, and

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Speaker 3: holistic spirituality. We also have John Vaughan Bucken, who is

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Speaker 3: the Director of Legacy Education at the Edgar Casey Foundation.

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Speaker 3: He's the editor of Venture Inward magazine and has been

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Speaker 3: involved in Casey's work for over fifty years, writing more

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Speaker 3: than three dozen books on Casey mysticism and ancient mysteries

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Speaker 3: along the way. John's ability to call up Casey's readings

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Speaker 3: alone is just from I've listened to enough of his

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Speaker 3: stuff to hear that. So welcome, gentlemen, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you Ron timing to see you. It's going

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Speaker 3: to be great. I'm really interested in Edgar Casey. You know,

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason, I never think of Edgar Casey as

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Speaker 3: psychics today. I literally don't know why, but his legacy

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Speaker 3: and his ideas somehow, somehow feel more credible. For some reason.

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Speaker 3: Was he different than what we'd call a psychic today?

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Speaker 4: I think so, John, I mean, you know, certainly Casey

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Speaker 4: to channeling, and Casey really broke the record. He introduced

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Speaker 4: been accustomed to. Yes, the Transcendentalist brought some notions of

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Speaker 4: the data and reincarnation and that sort of thing, but

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Speaker 4: Casey really broke all the records and he really is

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Speaker 4: the gold standard when you talk about channeling and what

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Speaker 4: much of a giant when it comes to opening up

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Speaker 4: the Western mind to mysticism, metaphysics, spirituality. That also included

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Speaker 3: Here we are eighty years after his death and we're

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Speaker 3: I know he passed away in forty five, and it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we sure can. I mean clearly he felt when

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Speaker 4: he talked about the pleiatees. He talked about arcturis. He

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Speaker 4: talked about, you know, literally dwelling on planets, not in

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Speaker 4: because there was a certain vibratory pattern that your soul

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Speaker 3: It's incredible how ahead of his time he seems, because

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Speaker 3: You know. He even linked the biblical sons of God

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Speaker 5: startled everybody listening to him while he was in trance.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean once again when I say he's

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Speaker 4: demonstrated the whole notion which scientific materialism wants to hold onto,

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Speaker 4: those other fruits. And once you step into that continuum,

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Speaker 3: That it's incredible you say that, because I feel like

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Speaker 5: Exactly? He would open up a life reading versus a

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Speaker 4: Casey takes it further. He says that as an entity,

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Speaker 4: you're taking sojourns. I mean, Casey's universe was mind numbingly large, huge,

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Speaker 3: It's it's incredible how his stuff really has kind of

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Speaker 3: speaking to Christopher and John here about Edgar Casey. Casey

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Speaker 3: Pretty fascinating to me how this stuff all kind of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And he made it so human like. For example,

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Speaker 5: No, you're right, No, you're right. He mentions that souls

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Speaker 3: Well didn't He actually warn us that technology and ego

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Speaker 4: a few weeks ago, and of course Danny's at the

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00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: very at the very forefront of the disclosure project. And Ron,

434
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Speaker 4: I know that you've interacted with Dan as well, and

435
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: you know the whole thing about delving into the realm

436
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: of UFO and UAP. Certainly for me, you know, as

437
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 4: the CEO here at Ari, if it doesn't have the

438
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: spiritual component, I'm really not much interested. I got to

439
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: tell you. I mean, I did a radio program for

440
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 4: well over twenty years on NPR and AM stations, et cetera,

441
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: and never once at that time did I bring up

442
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: UFO UAP because I always saw it in a separate silo.

443
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 4: Now I've evolved to the point where it's a holy cow,

444
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 4: it's part of the continuum. In fact, you know, our

445
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: our investigation, our soul evolution, demands that we take a

446
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 4: look at UFO UAP, the the orbs that a Christopher

447
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 4: Bledsoe can summon on command. I mean, this is a

448
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: very exciting time to be a lot And these are

449
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: the times that Edgar Casey predicted. Now, despite what you

450
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 4: see on YouTube about Edgar Casey's predictions for twenty twenty five,

451
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: here we are zero, okay. And if they make for

452
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: fabulous clickbait, somebody's getting rich on that stuff. But at

453
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 4: the same time, we know full well that Casey said

454
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: the choice has ever been ours. Yeah, he made predictions,

455
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: but he always said that free will superseded that. So

456
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: whether he talked about the beginnings of World War one,

457
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 4: world War two, the crash of the stock market, it's

458
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: almost as if Casey saw the concrete solidifying, but it

459
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 4: wasn't solid yet, and we always had free choice, and

460
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 4: so yeah, those choices are here today now. I say, Ron,

461
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 4: I'm kind of encouraged, at least when I look at

462
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: what's happened in Montana and other places over the years.

463
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 4: If it looks like we're ready to set off World

464
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Speaker 4: War three, I understand from what I can tell. You know,

465
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: a UFOUAP and non human intelligence is there to allow

466
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: to evolve on our own. But if we think we're

467
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 4: going to tear a hole in the universe, we got

468
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 4: another thing coming. So that's all part of the picture.

469
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 4: And yes, Atlantis did that and we must learn from that.

470
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Speaker 3: They said that about the hydron collider too, right, that

471
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: that would cause a black hole and take care of

472
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 3: the whole universe right there. Yeah, And your view is

473
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: he is he describing these extraterrestrial intelligences. Do you think

474
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: it was states of higher consciousness or more like the

475
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: modern experiences that we interpret as quote unquote alien.

476
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: I think it's both, John, don't you?

477
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's both. And also it's a vibrational

478
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: manifestation of a mind, a thought projection of an entity.

479
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Speaker 5: And there are many different entities at different levels of

480
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 5: vibration and awareness. It's not as homogeneous as we would

481
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 5: like to think. And we're going to meet them or

482
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 5: have been meeting them, and according to Sitchens writings, we've

483
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 5: been meeting them from ancient tome and we just describe

484
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 5: it in the odd ways that make it fantasy like

485
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: when actually it was real, it was actually happening.

486
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Speaker 3: John Tygen what you said earlier. I feel like recently

487
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: I've heard how some people are saying that these alien

488
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: beings are also part of the afterlife.

489
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Speaker 5: Oh yes, oh yeah, Well in the afterlife, you and I,

490
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: as physically as we are, we are freer in the

491
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 5: afterlife because our soul, in our deeper mind are subconscious.

492
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 5: Super conscious is released from physicality and three dimensions, and

493
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 5: so communication with entities, ghost, spirits, loved ones, other dimensions

494
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: is much easier and accessible because when Edgar went into trance,

495
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 5: he did this little technique to go into trance, he

496
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 5: actually left his body and personality behind. He reached up

497
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: into the infinite and then someone would say, tell us

498
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 5: about and it was there instantly because he was in

499
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 5: that collective. Could I talk with so and so? And

500
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 5: he said, yes, they're in the seventh dimension and I

501
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: can bring them to you. You know, it was shocking

502
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 5: how fast life really is and multiple dimensions of activity

503
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 5: and all the infinity eternal is. We are just starting

504
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 5: to get back in touch with it.

505
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Speaker 4: At the same time. You know, neither Edgar Casey nor

506
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: really the are really trumpeted that out for years. Why

507
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: it was just too strange, It was too far ahead

508
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: of its time. And I think, you know, Casey opened

509
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: up that world and teased us a little bit. We're

510
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: giving us three or four really salient stories and then

511
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: a number of other stories that are contiguous are on

512
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: the periphery of that. But the whole notion was this

513
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: guy was a Christian who grew up in the South,

514
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: and he had overcome racism, and he had to overcome

515
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: Christian fundamentalism. And when stuff like reincarnation came through him.

516
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: At first, it freaked him out, and so you had

517
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: to understand that this was like, okay, whatever beings were

518
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: helping him along, it's like, okay, we're gonna help dispense

519
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: this information in a temperate, sober manner as much as possible,

520
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: because guess what is going to blow your minds. It's

521
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: far beyond Jesus is your savior. Check the box and

522
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: that's all there is to the universe.

523
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: And seventy years later and I could barely get my

524
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: head around it. You know, probably going to be even

525
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: more in the future. So when we come back, we're

526
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: gonna ask Christopher and John about the acashic record that

527
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: Edgar Casey was tapping into to get this information. John

528
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: just touched on it. You're listening to Beyond Contact on

529
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network.

530
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: We are back on Beyond Contact. It's Captain Ron talking

531
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Speaker 3: to Chris and John about Edgar Casey. Guys. One thing

532
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Speaker 3: that I always have associated with Edgar Casey, I think

533
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: it was Helena Blovitski. Is that who the idea of

534
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: the akashoy Yes, and then you know the non physical

535
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: library of all universal events and thoughts sort of recorded.

536
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: Can you guys explain what you thought? You know what

537
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: that was from Casey's perspective.

538
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: He explained it as an infinite universal consciousness expressing individual

539
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: free willed consciousnesses, and anything they thought or did makes

540
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: an impression on the universal and he could read it.

541
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 5: People would come to him and say, I had this dream.

542
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: Could you help me interpret it? And they would tell

543
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 5: him like a two sentence thing, He said, oh, you

544
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: missed most of the dream, and he would repeat the

545
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: whole dream to them and they would say, where did

546
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 5: you get this? And he said, your subconscious made an

547
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: impression on the collective consciousness. Yeah, it was a natural

548
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: thing for him that they collectives was impressed by every

549
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 5: individual mind, not only their actions, but their thoughts, and

550
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: he could read thoughts. You know, I was only eighteen

551
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 5: when I read that, and it freaked me out so bad.

552
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: I was a mess for a couple of years till

553
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 5: he said, new thoughts overshadow old thoughts, and I was

554
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 5: saved because my teenage thoughts were not exactly ideal.

555
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Speaker 3: Even hearing you guys describe that right there, John, Do

556
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: you guys think the idea of this long standing record

557
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: could in any way support the new idea of the

558
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: simulated universe.

559
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 4: I certainly do. I mean, you know, it makes you

560
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: sit and take pause, because really, the Akashak records were

561
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: beyond space and time. They existed at the speed of light.

562
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: You know, why should we be so surprised? It was

563
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: Uncle Albert Einstein who said to us, hey, time and

564
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: space are illusions, albeit subbern ones. So the scientist and

565
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: the quantum physicist I kind of got there. In fact,

566
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: it's amazing how scientifically material we've been for the last

567
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: one hundred years. When you think about the quantum physicists

568
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 4: in the nineteen thirties and forties, we're talking about consciousness

569
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: as fundamental. But yes, when you think about Casey talking

570
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: about the Kashak records as being timeless and being beyond

571
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: time and space, my god, what dimensions does that put

572
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 4: us into? And where you know, and where is existence

573
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: at that point in time? Is it a simulation? I

574
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 4: think you could make that argument very interesting.

575
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Speaker 3: How do you feel this Akashak record idea ties into

576
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: Carl Jung's idea of the collective unconscious perfectly?

577
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 5: It's perfect. There's one nuance to Jun Jun had it

578
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 5: kind of a physical body connected, and Casey kept it

579
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: in the mind more. But I see the blend, and

580
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 5: many of Jung's teachings are mind expanding and help us

581
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 5: to understand Edgar Casey these far out ideas and concepts.

582
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I can make this connection, but

583
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: I'll try sometimes. When I've heard from those who have

584
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: had near death experiences, are those people like Raymond Moody

585
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: and Paul Perry and others who have studied near death

586
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: experience is almost all in talk about going through a

587
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: life review, and in that life review, you go through

588
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: every single second of your lifetime. And not only do

589
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: you go through each and every second through your seventy

590
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: eighty one hundred years, you not only feel your feelings,

591
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: you get the feel the feelings of the people that

592
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: you interacted with. You talk about multitudinous grains of sin

593
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: on you know, on the planet, this is your life.

594
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 4: When I think about that, I think about again the multiverse.

595
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 4: I think about multitudinal experiences getting outside time and space.

596
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: And again that's what the Acostak records are. So if

597
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: it I mean, and that's why I kind of pair

598
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: it with a life review, because in some ways you

599
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: can sense this is a record of your own life,

600
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 4: and it's you know, it's infinite, incredible.

601
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: Casey predicted that humanity would rediscover this lost knowledge and

602
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: reawakening psychic awareness in the twenty first century, leading to

603
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: a reunion of higher beings who guide us in our

604
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: spiritual evolution. Well, here we are, we're in the twenty

605
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 3: first century. Do you think that the beings he's referring

606
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: to here are what we might call alien?

607
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 5: Zachariah Sitchen and I used to debate that often, and

608
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: I used to joke with him all of that, these

609
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 5: ancient aliens you're talking about, zachar they were us. We

610
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: were in those dimensions, and now we're down into a

611
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 5: finite focus in the third dimension, and you and I

612
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 5: are debating a concept that we once lived. Yeah, I

613
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: think we have a great role in it. But I

614
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 5: will say this. Edgar said, not every soul has had

615
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 5: the three dimensional Earth experience, And he did give a

616
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 5: reading for one soul who said he's only incarnated here

617
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: four times, when most people incarnade here many multiple times.

618
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 5: He didn't belong to this dimension, so he only visited

619
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 5: four times. He belonged to another dimension. So it's really vast,

620
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: the explanation and the possibilities. It's just amazing.

621
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Speaker 3: At the very least, our consciousness sounds like it'll survive death.

622
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: All of these guys seem to agree on that. You know,

623
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: it's incredible that Edgar Casey is one of these legendary guys.

624
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: But thank god, in this unique case, we have all

625
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 3: this record. We have fourteen thousand of these. It's amazing

626
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: they even thought to record them. I just I think

627
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: about it. I think thank god they did, because there's

628
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: probably been plenty of other people that have had insights

629
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: that it wasn't recorded, and that's lost the time.

630
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

631
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: Again, Casey was again different than spiritualists because he said

632
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: he wasn't channeling you know, any entity. On occasion he

633
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: did that, but I was so rare. He was always

634
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: saying his higher channel is higher self. That access to

635
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: the Akashak records, that's where it began and ended. And

636
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: so that's why we get this fascinating information that is

637
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: poured through this man, including again other peoples and other

638
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: races on other planets and other dimensions and one thing

639
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 4: ron that we haven't touched on yet. But he also

640
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: talked about the fact that there were classes of people

641
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 4: that existed elsewhere that were not as warlike as we

642
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: are here in our portion of the universe. So, despite

643
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: some of the baleful experiences some people have had when

644
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: they've interacted with non human intelligence, most of it has

645
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 4: been by and large, very very positive in some way,

646
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: in some cases has had amazing healing properties involved with it.

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Speaker 4: We would like to think that most, if not all,

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Speaker 4: but certainly most, we would hope of our experiences of

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Speaker 4: interacting with these other beings, which may happen sooner than

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Speaker 4: we think, are going to be positive experiences. You know,

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Speaker 4: last week I was in Arizona and I was giving

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Speaker 4: a talk before folks who were very much interested in

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Speaker 4: the Casey readings. And at one point in time in

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Speaker 4: my discussion, I said, so, how many of you out

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Speaker 4: there think that UFO and UAP have been here or

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Speaker 4: will be here at some point in time. One hundred

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Speaker 4: percent of the people raise their hand. I said, how

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Speaker 4: many of you think that there's going to be or

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Speaker 4: has been, or there's going to be something such as

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Speaker 4: first contact? Ninety percent of the people raise their hand.

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Speaker 4: I said, how many of you think that first contact

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Speaker 4: is going to happen in your lifetime. And you know

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Speaker 4: eighty five to ninety percent of those people raise their hands. Now, again,

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Speaker 4: these are not ufologists. These are not people maybe following

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Speaker 4: the congressional hearings or maybe even listening to some of

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Speaker 4: the many shows that are out there. But these are

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Speaker 4: people died on the world, people who are trying to

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Speaker 4: improve their lives spiritually, and they're telling you, Yep, I

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Speaker 4: think it's going to happen, and it's going to happen

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Speaker 4: in my life.

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Speaker 3: I'm knee deep in this community, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's going to happen in my lifetime. What there are,

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Speaker 3: of course, people in this community that believe they've already

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Speaker 3: had this contact, So it may be happening. I just

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Speaker 3: don't see it on the world stage. I don't see

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Speaker 3: the President doing a big d disclosure.

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Speaker 4: That wouldn't be the point, right, right, you know, they're

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Speaker 4: not going to appear on the White House lawn, right.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think part of this entire equation, and this gets

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Speaker 4: into the spiritual evolution that Danny Shean and I and

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Speaker 4: John we're talking about, it's not you know, a decision

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Speaker 4: on their part, if you will, it's when are we

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Speaker 4: going to be ready? What is our What do we

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Speaker 4: have to have in our vibratory pattern that will allow

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Speaker 4: those races of beings to come and show themselves. It's

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Speaker 4: up to us to move in that direction.

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Speaker 3: Well, there are people out there, like doctor Stephen Greer

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Speaker 3: for example, that say we need to get up to

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Speaker 3: like whatever it was one percent. I think of us

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Speaker 3: raising our vibrational level of consciousness to understand this. That'll

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Speaker 3: be enough to make it happen.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is, it is, and it's only to get

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Speaker 4: more fascinating as time goes on.

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Speaker 3: Here we are eighty years in and this guy is

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Speaker 3: still extremely relevant. And I think you guys are doing

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Speaker 3: an amazing job. Obviously, it's fascinating stuff. I really appreciate

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Speaker 3: you taking the time to talk to us today. Thanks

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Speaker 3: a lot for coming on. And you guys can find

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Speaker 3: out more about these two gentlemen at Edgarcase dot org.

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Speaker 3: Everything about the are is on there. You can find

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Speaker 3: me on Twitter and Instagram at CD Underscore Captain Ron.

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