WEBVTT - Is Canned Food Really Worse Than Fresh or Frozen?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to brain Stuff production of I Heart Radio. Hey

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<v Speaker 1>brain Stuff, Lauren Vogle Bam. Here, Let's face it, some

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<v Speaker 1>canned vegetables are so very different from their fresh forms,

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<v Speaker 1>think asparagus, that plenty of kids grow up swearing off

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise delicious foods forever. So it's no surprise that canned

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<v Speaker 1>foods have a bad rap. But the bad reputation goes

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<v Speaker 1>beyond just the food that comes inside those cans. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also because of things like the growth of farmers markets

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<v Speaker 1>in the last twenty years, and influencers like California's Alice

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<v Speaker 1>Waters and Michael Pollen who have encouraged eating locally raised

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<v Speaker 1>fresh foods over processed foods, and bp A linings and

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<v Speaker 1>scary accounts of the dangers of dented cans told by

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<v Speaker 1>well meaning grandparents. So is that bad reputation deserved? First,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's back up and talk about canning foods as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Canning was born out of a search for convenience and efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>A French candy maker and chef Nicholas A. Pear develop

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<v Speaker 1>to the process. At the end of the eighteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>Napoleon was offering a huge prize to anyone who could

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<v Speaker 1>help him feed his troops. A pair's original process isn't

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<v Speaker 1>very different from the canning methods used today. A pair

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<v Speaker 1>put food in bottles and jars, covered them with cork

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<v Speaker 1>and wax, and processed the jars in boiling water. The

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<v Speaker 1>French government paid a pair to make his process public,

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<v Speaker 1>and that led to the first recipe book on canning.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pair's process spread quickly. Not twenty years later, the

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<v Speaker 1>British Navy fed soldiers the first meat, soups and vegetables

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<v Speaker 1>that were canned in tin instead of jars. During World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two, governments in a number of countries, including the

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<v Speaker 1>U S and the UK, promoted home canning. The U

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<v Speaker 1>S printed and distributed circulars and opened thousands of canning

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<v Speaker 1>centers to help home cooks preserve food grown in home gardens.

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<v Speaker 1>Canning became patriotic, supplementing bland and sometimes inadequate rations. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties, commercially canned and other packaged foods were

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<v Speaker 1>introduced as nutritious, time saving, modern convenient. A popular book,

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<v Speaker 1>the can Opener cookbook Buy Food, editor Poppy Cannon promised

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<v Speaker 1>readers they could open some cans and create a gourmet

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<v Speaker 1>meal without really knowing how to cook. The recipes included

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<v Speaker 1>roast canned chicken flombay with black cherries made with a

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<v Speaker 1>whole canned chicken. Another meal was made of canned hamburger

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<v Speaker 1>patties covered with fried onions and red wine, baked in

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<v Speaker 1>a castrole dish for twenty minutes. Canned food was promoted

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<v Speaker 1>and seen as better than fresh, especially as industrial agriculture

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<v Speaker 1>began to incorporate more modern fertilizers and technologies. The author

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<v Speaker 1>of the can Opener cookbook wrote the flavor of fresh

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<v Speaker 1>tomatoes was bad and that for real tomato flavor, you

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<v Speaker 1>should open a can. Fifty is years later, canned tomatoes

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<v Speaker 1>are still an off season go to for tomato lovers

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<v Speaker 1>and cooks, and I certainly can't deny the convenience of

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<v Speaker 1>a can of beans already cooked and ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>into a salad, soup, dip, or whatever other dish, no

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<v Speaker 1>long soaking or par boiling required. From a nutrition standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>the canning process today is designed preserve as many nutrients

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. Fruits and vegetables for canning are picked at

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<v Speaker 1>the peak of their ripeness, as opposed to some produce

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<v Speaker 1>picked for fresh sale, which may be underripe to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>spoilage during transport from farmed store. Crops destined for canning

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<v Speaker 1>are grown close to packing facilities and can be processed

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<v Speaker 1>within four hours of harvest. The heat used during canning

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<v Speaker 1>does decrease some of the water soluble vitamins in the

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<v Speaker 1>finished food, like vitamins B and C, and often salt

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<v Speaker 1>and sugar are added during the process. Experts suggest rinsing

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<v Speaker 1>canned food to reduce some of the added sugar and salt,

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<v Speaker 1>or buying low salt and low sugar products. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course that heat also changes the texture of vegetables, regrettably

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<v Speaker 1>so in the case of those canned asparagus. But that

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<v Speaker 1>heat is a plus when it comes to food safety.

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<v Speaker 1>The heat introduces pressure that helps seal the cans, but

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<v Speaker 1>it can also kill or deactivate deadly germs. Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned our grandparents aversions to dented or swollen cans.

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<v Speaker 1>Those fears are based in reality. Let's talk about my face.

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<v Speaker 1>Its scary condition botuli um. It's caused by a bacterial

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<v Speaker 1>toxin so deadly that just a million of a graham

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<v Speaker 1>is enough to kill the United States and other countries

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<v Speaker 1>even explored botulism as a biological weapon during World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>The bacteria that crete this toxin, clostradian batu linum, are everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but people associate bauchuli ism with canned foods because the

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria only reproduce in low oxygen environments like a poorly

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<v Speaker 1>processed can. Today, commercial canned foods go through what's called

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<v Speaker 1>a bochu linum cook. This is a high heat cook

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<v Speaker 1>that dramatically lowers the chance that any Clustradiu bauchua linum

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<v Speaker 1>spores or other organisms that can cause food born illness survive.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, you should discard any can that's puffed

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<v Speaker 1>out or swollen that's caused by germs reproducing inside of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is bad news. Cans that are dented are

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<v Speaker 1>usually fine, as long as the dent is not along

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<v Speaker 1>the cans scenes. The most recent concern about canned foods, though,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the food at all. It's the cans themselves and

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<v Speaker 1>what they're lined with, including b p A. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>past two decades, public attention has focused on bp A,

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<v Speaker 1>the compound used to make polycarbonate plastics and epoxy resins.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and eight, the US government's National Toxicology

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<v Speaker 1>Program concluded that there was concern about its effects on

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<v Speaker 1>the brains, behavior, and prostate glands of fetuses, infants, and children.

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<v Speaker 1>Other studies have linked BPA to cardiovascular disease, obesity, asthma,

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<v Speaker 1>and diabetes. B p A exposure is widespread. The Centers

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<v Speaker 1>for Disease Control found b p A and of the

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<v Speaker 1>urine samples of more than twenty five thousand people aged

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<v Speaker 1>six and older. B p A can leach from containers,

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<v Speaker 1>including cans, into foods and drinks, and so plastics and

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<v Speaker 1>canning manufacturers have worked to develop replacement materials. The Canned

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<v Speaker 1>Manufacturers Institute says more than of food cans today are

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<v Speaker 1>lined with new b p A free materials such as polyesters, acrylics,

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<v Speaker 1>and PVC. Though note that that figure just refers to

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<v Speaker 1>food cans. It doesn't include canned drinks or bottle caps.

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<v Speaker 1>And although replacing a known concern is great, the safety

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<v Speaker 1>of some of those substitutes is still being researched. We

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<v Speaker 1>spoke of Sarah Geller, a senior research and database analyst

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<v Speaker 1>at the Environmental Working Group. She said, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of data about how these materials are used

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<v Speaker 1>because the formulas are protected by trade secrets, and even

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<v Speaker 1>though cans with newer linings can help you avoid endocrine disruptors,

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<v Speaker 1>they may not be good for the environment. Some materials

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<v Speaker 1>don't degrade. If you're concerned about contamination from canned foods,

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<v Speaker 1>Geller recommends using fresh, frozen, or dried food instead of canned,

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<v Speaker 1>But if you simply can't get away from the convenience

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<v Speaker 1>of canned foods, absolutely don't eat the food in the can. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>be aware that some compounds, including b p A, have

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<v Speaker 1>become such pervasive contaminants in the environment that it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>harder to avoid. No matter what your food is packaged in,

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<v Speaker 1>Geller said, detectable amounts of b p A may make

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<v Speaker 1>it into otherwise b p A free cans from other sources,

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<v Speaker 1>including the food itself. To end on a slightly lighter note,

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<v Speaker 1>even though food was first canned in metal cans around

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirteen, it took about forty years for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>invent a can opener, and can openers for home use

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<v Speaker 1>didn't become popular until the eighteen sixties. Before then, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>break out the hammer and chisel. Today's episode was written

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<v Speaker 1>by Sean Chavis and produced by Tyler Clang. Brain Stuff

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