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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, footballanals,

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Speaker 2: sideline reporter Man. We have a show for Hugh Holy Cow.

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Speaker 2: We got a deep slant interview with one of the

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Speaker 2: most electrifying players the Texans have ever had, Tank Dell.

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Speaker 2: We've got Texans OG's Indy klu chats with Jonthan Wells.

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Speaker 2: We got a little in the lab, and of course

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Speaker 2: men behind the mikes for this evening as Mark Vanamer

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Speaker 2: catches U up with longtime Steelers voice and.

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Speaker 1: You hear you just know it, Bill Hillgrove.

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Speaker 2: So we got a lot to do on today's show,

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Speaker 2: but we got to kick it off as we do

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Speaker 2: each and every Wednesday, with the general manager of your

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Nick Casario. Mark and I chopped it up with him

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Speaker 1: after a win on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: This was great.

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Speaker 4: Take a listen, and we welcome into the hun Day

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Speaker 4: Texans Radio Studio Executive Vice President and general Manager Nick Asario. Nick,

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Speaker 4: thanks for being with us, fellows, good to be here.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations on the victory. It's week four. We'll get into

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Speaker 4: all of it about Pittsburgh in a moment here, but

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Speaker 4: let's reminisce a little bit about beating the Jaguars on

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Speaker 4: the road. Real great win for the Texans, winning by

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Speaker 4: twenty and a lot of the phases coming together. Real

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Speaker 4: complimentary football being displayed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean really credited the players and the coaches

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Speaker 5: for the week. I'd say, let's say it's probably one

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Speaker 5: of our harder weeks of practice, but it was a

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Speaker 5: tough week of practice. We were out there on Thursday,

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Speaker 5: had a lot of plays, it was hot, you know,

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Speaker 5: players were taxed, but they pushed through it, you know,

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Speaker 5: mentally and physically, got themselves ready to go, and we

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Speaker 5: were able to get contributions really from all three phases,

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Speaker 5: which to win in this league, you're gonna have to,

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Speaker 5: you know, that's how you win games. So it's not

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Speaker 5: gonna be about one side of the ball doing one

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Speaker 5: thing one week and then the next week, you know,

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Speaker 5: the other side does a little bit better than the other.

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Speaker 5: At some point, you're gonna need everybody to contribute. And

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Speaker 5: I think that was emblematic of where we were on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: and it was a great team victory.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's one day gonna be a thirty for thirty

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Speaker 2: on Andrew Beck's kickoff return, So we need sound and

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Speaker 2: quotes from everybody. Nick, So where were you when Andrew

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Speaker 2: Beck dropped the kickoff? And what are you thinking at

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Speaker 2: that moment? Can you say it on radio?

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 5: No, I mean it was really bad football turned good football.

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Speaker 5: So it was a little bit of a not a

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Speaker 5: mortar kick. I mean it was placed there a little

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Speaker 5: bit short. So Mike was coming up, Andrew was going

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Speaker 5: with each other and then you just got to let

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Speaker 5: it play itself out. I mean, what happened really, the

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Speaker 5: coverage unit, all ten to eleven guys ended up on

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Speaker 5: so they really didn't have anything leverage to the backside.

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Speaker 5: So when Andrews started that way, there was maybe one

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Speaker 5: I mean half joking, and everybody's kind of joking. But

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Speaker 5: Andrew for the position, is probably one of the more

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Speaker 5: athletic players, like he actually runs well. Even going back

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Speaker 5: to you know, to Denver last year, last few years.

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Speaker 5: I want to say it was like week two or

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Speaker 5: near the sideline from Wilson. So Andrew runs runs well

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Speaker 5: good toughness, he's got good straight line speed, and the

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Speaker 5: fact that the coverage was really pinned themselves in. I

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Speaker 5: think once Andrew kind of got ahead of steam, then

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Speaker 5: he kind of got moving and he recorded one of

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Speaker 5: the faster times ever for whatever that size. But you

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Speaker 5: know it was it's really not sound football, but sometimes

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Speaker 5: guys have to make football plays. We're just fortunate that

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Speaker 5: we're able to retain possession of the football and it

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Speaker 4: Also on special teams, Will Anderson blocked field goal. Apparently

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Speaker 4: he missed the first field goal trip he wasn't on

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Speaker 4: special teams overall, great days.

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Speaker 5: I mean, anytime you get a block field goal and

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Speaker 5: sometimes things kind of go your way. But I think

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Speaker 5: even just the whole Will on field goal block, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna use your best players. They're gonna use all your players,

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Speaker 5: and if they give you an opportunity for an advantage

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Speaker 5: you're gonna need everybody to maybe do more than one

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Speaker 5: I would say in Will's k Will was close the

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Speaker 5: week before, so I'm sure they're gonna be conscious of

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Speaker 5: him in field goal protection now. So I might have

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Speaker 5: to come up with a different way to see if

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Speaker 5: we can create some pressure, you know, against a good

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Speaker 2: I couldn't help but think about when Will Block that

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Speaker 2: here's the alpha of the Alphas at Alabama, Like the

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Speaker 2: guy that does everything defensively, and yet there he is

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Speaker 2: just kind of amazing that those things translate from high

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Speaker 5: Yeah, anytime you're evaluating a player, you're looking for consistency

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Speaker 5: CJ and Will both sit in the front row in

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Speaker 5: and Will did the same thing. I'm sure CJ was

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Speaker 4: All right, So your quarterback, let's leave the on field

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Speaker 4: stuff alone for a moment. He says stuff like pressure

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Speaker 4: is a privilege. Nick, That's amazing. I mean, this guy

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Speaker 7: Can you speak to that a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I think there's a propensity sometimes to put a you know,

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Speaker 5: and maturity beyond your years. And I think that's one

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Speaker 5: of the things that stood out with him through the process.

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Speaker 5: He's very confident in himself. He believes in himself, and

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Speaker 5: he cares about winning, and he's very competitive. And those

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Speaker 5: things have continued to manifest themselves from call it May, June, July,

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Speaker 5: the beginning, but I mean what we do is hard.

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Speaker 5: I mean this league is very hard. Each week is

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Speaker 5: a significant challenge. When you're a younger player, You're gonna

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Speaker 5: have to deal with things and face things that you

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Speaker 5: looking for just I would say continued growth and improvement

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Speaker 5: because you still have another eight to nine weeks in

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Speaker 2: Along those lines, Nick, we talk about that and it's

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Speaker 2: a huge part of their experience as a rookie, as

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Speaker 2: a young player. How much is the adversity that a

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Speaker 2: Because you talk about CJ. It's the last one to

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Speaker 2: get an invite to Lead eleven. He really didn't have

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Speaker 2: eleven he goes to Ohio State. He since behind Justin.

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Speaker 2: He's got to fight for the job. The viewers is

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Speaker 2: there Tank Dell? Same thing you know, Tank is go

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Speaker 2: Route he gets to Houston, nobody really knows who he is.

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Speaker 2: They've gone through adversity. How much did that sort of

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Speaker 5: It's a big part of it. So the reality is

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Speaker 6: So you're gonna have to bounce back.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna have to put a play behind you, You're

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Speaker 5: get blown out. What do you do the next week?

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Speaker 5: And this league is really designed for everybody to be

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Speaker 5: gonna have to deal with something, and we're gonna deal

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Speaker 5: you make excuses? Do you move forward? Do you self correct?

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Speaker 5: And you build a little just alluded to, you build

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Speaker 5: a mental toughness of mental fortitude when you have to

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Speaker 5: face some things. So look, some have a little bit

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Speaker 5: true measure of who you are is how you handle

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: So we visited on the first day of training camp,

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Speaker 4: and if that time, I got my crystal ball out

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Speaker 4: and said, hey, week three, you're gonna throw for two

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Speaker 4: to eighty two touchdowns, no sacks, win by twenty with

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Speaker 4: three offensive linemen who are not here today the first

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Speaker 4: day of training camp. What would your reaction be, Uh.

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Speaker 5: Maybe we're playing a different team or a different game,

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Speaker 5: or we're in a different sport.

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Speaker 6: So but look, this is the reality.

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Speaker 5: And I know it's kind of cliche to say the

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Speaker 5: NFL is week to week, but it's it's really it's

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Speaker 5: They've lost some players, some really good players, but that's

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Speaker 5: And really, from our perspective, it's nice to win, but

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Speaker 2: have a high Smith defense is pretty good, Pickett Pickings,

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Speaker 3: Report of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just say, big picture, you're probably talking

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Speaker 6: Nase has been a thousand yard back back to back seasons.

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Speaker 6: So they're a good football team.

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Speaker 5: They're two and one when they scored two touchdowns on

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Speaker 6: So a big challenge this week.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is, you know, you can't

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Speaker 5: So I mean, look TJ's I mean, I think jj'said

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Speaker 2: Nick, one of my favorites in this draft class was

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Speaker 4: Nick Texan's running game got a little bit better against

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Speaker 5: So again, run defense is just about being disciplined. It's

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Speaker 6: That's the key.

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Speaker 4: It's Legends Homecoming presented by Ford. JJ Watt gets into

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Speaker 4: the Ring of Honor this weekend. Nick, give us a

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Speaker 4: JJ Watt prevailing memory thought when you first noticed him,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean everything that JJ's received, he's earned, he's

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Speaker 6: Rightfully.

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Speaker 5: So I know we had the one play here, you know,

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Speaker 2: Nick, you know how I feel about it. I'd love

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Speaker 2: preparing for a lot of Donald something like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, you have to talk about it. I mean

439
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Speaker 5: it's a very personnel driven league. Say, you know, not

440
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Speaker 5: too dissimilar. It's the same thing you're kind of going

441
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Speaker 5: through with TJ. But even though when you're playing against

442
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Speaker 5: those players, like everybody says that, everybody knows that, and

443
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Speaker 5: everybody talks about it, but you have to be very

444
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Speaker 5: hyper focused and diligent. Okay, this play, where is he?

445
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Speaker 5: How are we accounting for him? We think we're okay,

446
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Speaker 5: you think we're gonna be hold up, does this make sense?

447
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Speaker 1: So?

448
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Speaker 6: And how do you attack?

449
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Speaker 5: Every player has strengths, players have weaknesses, So you want

450
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Speaker 5: to try to take advantage if there's a weakness or

451
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Speaker 5: a way to kind of mitigate some of the things

452
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Speaker 5: that they do well. So you have to go into

453
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's the same thing on the defensive side

454
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Speaker 5: of the ball with the opposing offense. So if they

455
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Speaker 5: have a player he does this really really well, you

456
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Speaker 5: have to count for him, whether it's situationally, when it's

457
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Speaker 5: third down, whether it's in.

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Speaker 6: The red area.

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Speaker 5: So it's a part of your discussion during the course

460
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Speaker 5: of the week. In every situation, you just can't lose

461
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Speaker 5: sight of it because if that player has the capacity

462
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Speaker 5: to ruin the game, then it's on you to make

463
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Speaker 5: sure that it doesn't happen. And look, if he beats you,

464
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Speaker 5: he beats you, Like that's football. Sometimes you just going

465
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Speaker 5: to get beat by a better player. But okay, if

466
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Speaker 5: there are things that we can do in the interim

467
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Speaker 5: to make sure that doesn't happen, then we certainly have

468
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Speaker 5: to have a heighten awareness.

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Speaker 4: Nick growing up in Ohio, Texans are playing the Pittsburgh Steelers.

470
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Speaker 4: This is a traditional power. What was the level of

471
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Speaker 4: disdain in the Cassario household for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

472
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Speaker 6: I was probably too young.

473
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Speaker 5: The only thing I remember is just some of those

474
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Speaker 5: images of Jack Lambert and his teeth and black thereof

475
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Speaker 5: the physical nature I think, you know, me and Joe Green,

476
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Speaker 5: Jack Lambert, Like when you saw the highlights of the defense,

477
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Speaker 5: is just how physical they played.

478
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Speaker 6: I mean you're like, whoa, I mean, this is you know,

479
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Speaker 6: it's a violent sport.

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Speaker 5: You knew that, but they kind of took it to

481
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Speaker 5: next level and they built the reputation over time. I

482
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Speaker 5: mean you're talking about I mean, I don't know how

483
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Speaker 5: many players they have in the Hall of Fame, but

484
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Speaker 5: it's a lot. And they have I mean certain number

485
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Speaker 5: of championships as well. So but it just speaks to

486
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Speaker 5: the program and kind of how they built it, and

487
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Speaker 5: like I said in the beginning, just the model of

488
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Speaker 5: the consistency that they've established, I mean, second to none,

489
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Speaker 5: And honestly, it's something that you aspire to at some

490
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Speaker 5: point potentially be in that same vein Like we're not

491
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Speaker 5: gonna be the Pittsburgh Steelers, but when you look at

492
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Speaker 5: what they've done, you tip your hat and it's respect

493
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Speaker 5: and its admiration, but we also know we still have

494
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Speaker 5: a job to do and just go out there and

495
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Speaker 5: play and execute, and you know, we'll see what happens

496
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Speaker 5: at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: I know all NFL games, they all count, they all matter,

498
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Speaker 2: But to your point and the respect you have for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, does it mean something. When you walk on

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Speaker 2: the field, you're like, it's the Steelers over there, and

501
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Speaker 2: you see that black and gold over there. I mean,

502
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Speaker 2: I know you don't get intimidated, but you guys, you

503
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Speaker 2: guys had that when you were with New England. When

504
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Speaker 2: you guys walk on the field, it's like, oh, the Patriots, Okay,

505
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Speaker 2: this is a big game because it's them over there.

506
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Speaker 2: You kind of feel that way no matter what. When

507
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Speaker 2: the Steelers on the other side, like, Okay, this is

508
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Speaker 2: a big matchup because it's them.

509
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Speaker 5: Well, I think you just know you got to play

510
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Speaker 5: good football when you go into that game. So nothing's

511
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Speaker 5: gonna be given to You're gonna have to earn it.

512
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Speaker 5: Every team has good players, you know, there's a certain

513
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Speaker 5: let's say, are around the Steelers. They travel, well, I'm

514
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Speaker 5: sure we're gonna see some terrible towels in the stands.

515
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Speaker 5: Hopefully not too many, but it just kind of speaks

516
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Speaker 5: to their overall ethos as a as a team in

517
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Speaker 5: an organization, and it's respect.

518
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Speaker 6: But okay, we still have a job to do and

519
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Speaker 6: go out there.

520
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Speaker 5: But I think it was always a great playing in

521
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Speaker 5: that stadium is a really great atmosphere. It's a great environment.

522
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Speaker 5: You know, if you like football, like being in that environment.

523
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Speaker 5: And they're they're fans, They got great fans, They're very

524
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Speaker 5: aware and they understand football so good. It's a good

525
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Speaker 5: opportunity against a good team in organization to see if

526
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Speaker 5: we continue to build on some of the things that

527
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Speaker 5: we've done here early in the season.

528
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine that had many good things to stay

529
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Speaker 2: to you as you were walking through a stadium.

530
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Speaker 6: We didn't have to go through the stands or anything.

531
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Speaker 5: So it's really when the bus comes in you get

532
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Speaker 5: to see some it's say, uh colorful public, Yeah, exactly,

533
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Speaker 5: the public assumption.

534
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Speaker 7: Nick, thanks a lot, good luck this week.

535
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Speaker 6: Thanks guys.

536
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Speaker 2: Tremendous stuff right there from general manager Nick Cassio and

537
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Speaker 2: of course me Mark.

538
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Speaker 1: We asked the questions. Hopefully that's fun discussion to listen to.

539
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Speaker 2: I know what's going to be a fun discussion to

540
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Speaker 2: listen to, and that that's next where Tank Dell sits.

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Speaker 1: Down with Deep City right here in Texas All Access.

542
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Speaker 2: I can't tell you how excited I am for you

543
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Speaker 2: to be with me right here on Texans All Access

544
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Speaker 2: from John Harris Football sideline reporter. In this segment in particular,

545
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Speaker 2: I'm pumped for because it is the first time that

546
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Speaker 2: Tank Dell does a little deep slant interview with our

547
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Speaker 2: good friend Deep City. This is fun and we finished

548
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Speaker 2: it with a.

549
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Speaker 1: Little autograph for the wall.

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Speaker 2: Well you have to stick around for that. Here's Tank

551
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Speaker 2: Dell and Deep City.

552
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Speaker 1: Take listen.

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Speaker 8: It's a deep sent one on one present of by

554
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Speaker 8: Exfinity and joining me this week, Tank Dell, you had

555
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Speaker 8: a lot of family, speaking of family in Jacksonville at

556
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Speaker 8: the game, so that was exciting. I love that you

557
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Speaker 8: said your little brother wanted to talk to CJ and

558
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Speaker 8: Will after the game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's all he wanted to do. Yeah, like I

560
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Speaker 9: was not even there.

561
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Speaker 8: Who all did you have at the game?

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Speaker 9: I know my mom, my little brother, of course, my pops,

563
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Speaker 9: my sister, my niece, my sister baby, my brother, my

564
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Speaker 9: other brother, my sister, my sister, boyfriend, and then like

565
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Speaker 9: all my uncles.

566
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Speaker 8: Oh wow, So how many people would you say?

567
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Speaker 10: It was probably like twenty plus for sure.

568
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Speaker 8: Wow. Are you gonna have family the home game?

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Speaker 9: Probably on the week before my birthday or two weeks

570
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Speaker 9: before my birthday. They're gonna try to make one. She

571
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Speaker 9: was My mom was talking to me about making this

572
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Speaker 9: next one that's coming up. The Steelers came yeah, but

573
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Speaker 9: I don't think she can make it because of her.

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Speaker 8: So they all live in Florida and you don't have

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Speaker 8: any family in Houston, like you're I feel like you're

576
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Speaker 8: so Houstonian. That's wild to me that you don't about it.

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Speaker 10: I don't know why people think I'm from here.

578
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Speaker 8: Well, because you are very pro Houston. You were like

579
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Speaker 8: very proud of the city and being from here. So

580
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Speaker 8: I guess everyone just thinks you're from here. We know

581
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Speaker 8: you're from Florida. I actually speaking of Houston. So you

582
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Speaker 8: have to Beyonce concert? Yeah, what did you think?

583
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Speaker 1: You? Look?

584
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Speaker 8: You and CJ. You guys had just come back.

585
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Speaker 9: Way ain't no way, but nah the concert was good.

586
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Speaker 9: Me and seasy on. It stayed like twenty minutes though.

587
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Speaker 8: It was long and you guys are probably tired, right, and.

588
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Speaker 10: Then she took like thirty years to come out.

589
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Speaker 8: Was like she was a little late. Yes, okay, so

590
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Speaker 8: you're not like an official like fan of I.

591
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Speaker 9: Love music, but the concert is not really my thing.

592
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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, okay, So you stayed for about twenty minutes

593
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Speaker 8: and then you dipped you and CJ. You guys also

594
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Speaker 8: went back for the first Cougars game right this season,

595
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Speaker 8: first football game? Okay? Was that that was probably, I

596
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Speaker 8: assume the first time he ever.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he kind of dissing on us, like, oh he

598
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Speaker 9: was he wasn't. He loved it though, but he was like,

599
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Speaker 9: he's gonna take me to the Ohio State game week.

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Speaker 9: Okay they play, I don't know who they play, but

601
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Speaker 9: he said he was gonna take me there and I'm

602
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Speaker 9: gonna see the atmosphere and stuff like that. He was like, you,

603
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Speaker 9: I'm gonna show you a real at mess.

604
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Speaker 8: Oh really okay, okay, he's gonna show you no higher

605
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Speaker 8: state game.

606
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Speaker 10: Yeah, so I'm waiting on it.

607
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Speaker 8: You guys are so close. It seems like you guys

608
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Speaker 8: do a lot of stuff off the field together. I mean,

609
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Speaker 8: is that just from being two rookies together or just

610
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Speaker 8: because of the positions, like what's what's your relationship like

611
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Speaker 8: off I just I.

612
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Speaker 9: Feel like we just connect well with each other. He

613
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Speaker 9: understands me as like outside of the ball, like just

614
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Speaker 9: as a human being, as a person, and then I

615
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 9: understand him like man, we'd be having some deep conversations

616
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Speaker 9: and things like that. And then on the field, you know,

617
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Speaker 9: like we connect like for like we like the best

618
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Speaker 9: of friends when we're on the field. So it's just

619
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Speaker 9: like that, man, we just connect well with each other.

620
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Speaker 8: It's very similar in your personalities. Are you different?

621
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Speaker 10: Yeah, we're similar, he like in one way. He joked

622
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Speaker 10: all day he does, and I joke.

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Speaker 8: Back, you know, I can. I feel like you're very

624
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Speaker 8: like out there, he's more of a quarterback. We sed

625
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Speaker 8: mae the more serious sight of him.

626
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Speaker 9: Yeah, when we're in the building, But when we're outside

627
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Speaker 9: the building, man, that man is a comedian, even in

628
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Speaker 9: the locker room, Like people don't see the locker room CJ.

629
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Speaker 10: First.

630
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Speaker 9: He's a man of God for sure, like faith and

631
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Speaker 9: all that.

632
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Speaker 8: I can see that for sure.

633
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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

634
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Speaker 9: But he has his moments when he's going to like

635
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Speaker 9: crack all day but it's fun though.

636
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Speaker 8: One of the first stories we heard about you, obviously

637
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Speaker 8: when you got drafted was that you DM the Texans

638
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Speaker 8: what last December, and then the Texans drafted CJ Day one,

639
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Speaker 8: But that CJ was really lobbying for the Texans draft you,

640
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 8: like all of Houston wanted you here. I felt like, so,

641
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 8: how was that possible for that him wanting to have

642
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 8: you here? Did you know him that well before you

643
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 8: guys were on this team together.

644
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Speaker 9: I knew, Yeah, I didn't know him like personally, but

645
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 9: I knew like from me watching football and sports and

646
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 9: stuff like that, Like I knew he was a great

647
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 9: quarterback at Ohio State. And then we did actually meet

648
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Speaker 9: at the combine. So when we met at the combine,

649
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 9: we chopped it up for a little minute, and you did. Yeah,

650
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Speaker 9: we met at the combine and we was just like

651
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 9: he was just he came up and we was just

652
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Speaker 9: talking about ball and.

653
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Speaker 10: Stuff like that. He just like, I love your game.

654
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Speaker 9: I told him the same thing, and then kept talking

655
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Speaker 9: about other stuff and then you know, we're here now.

656
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Speaker 8: So yeah, it seems like he's very approachable considering he

657
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 8: played at such a high level. Yeah, yeah, he would agree.

658
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 10: With that.

659
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 9: When I first spoke with him, like he very genuine,

660
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 9: you know, like we sat there for like a good

661
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 9: five to ten minutes talking, chopping it up about stuff,

662
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 9: and then no, God blessed us to be.

663
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 10: With each other.

664
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 8: So yeah, obviously he wanted you here. And you guys

665
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 8: have done some really great things in your first games together.

666
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 8: So first hundred yard one hundred yard receiving game, touchdowns

667
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 8: and back to back games. Are you surprised by the

668
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 8: start that you've had.

669
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 9: Nah, Never, I put the work in. You know, I'm

670
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 9: very confident in myself. You know, playing this sport, you

671
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 9: gotta have confidence. So every time I step on the field,

672
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 9: I want to be you know, I want to be

673
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 9: one of the best. You know, I'm gonna give it

674
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 9: everything I got for sure for my team, myself and

675
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 9: not just my confidence through the roof man. So I

676
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 9: feel like I done been through it all, So just

677
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 9: go out there with put my best foot forward, and

678
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 9: you know, whatever happens happens. But I felt the game coming,

679
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 9: you know, I didn't know it was gonna come early

680
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 9: like this.

681
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 8: Oh you felt like a big game was coming for you?

682
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.

683
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 9: Just I feel like, you know, want you to put

684
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 9: that hard work in throughout the year, throughout the season,

685
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 9: before the season, doing the training and all that. Once

686
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 9: you put the work in, you know, God just blessings coming,

687
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 9: you know. So I knew it was gonna come. I

688
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 9: just didn't know desert early, but thank God.

689
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 8: I mean, you seem to always get open, You seem

690
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 8: to always make those big plays. But do you think

691
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 8: separates your game from like other receivers out there? What

692
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 8: makes you so different?

693
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: Man?

694
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 10: I don't know.

695
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 9: It's a lot of great receivers, but I do know,

696
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 9: like within myself, I know how to get open, just

697
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 9: the nag of getting open, being a separator route runner,

698
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 9: cause you know I don't have I'm not I'm not

699
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 9: the biggest guy. So I get open and other ways

700
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 9: like I got to speed, you know. I know how

701
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 9: to stop on a dime and getting and out my cuts,

702
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 9: So I rely on that for sure. But just catching

703
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 9: the ball, like staying after practice catching the ball, running routes,

704
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 9: just keep even if the route. If I know I

705
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 9: can run this route in my sleep, I'm just gonna

706
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 9: keep drilling it. So once the game they come, you know,

707
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 9: it just be like just me out there having fun.

708
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 10: So that's how I do it.

709
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 8: Your your journey is one that's so interesting because you

710
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 8: started off at Juco Junior Community College and then you

711
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 8: started a few different places before you actually made a Houston.

712
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 10: I started it in the HBCU level.

713
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 9: So I started at Alabama and m then I win

714
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 9: Juco after like my I stayed there through the summer

715
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 9: workouts in the first semester, and then after that I

716
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 9: went to Jugo. Okay, so to spring semester.

717
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 8: Why was that throughoute that you had to take out

718
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 8: of high school? Were you not able to go to

719
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 8: another school? Did you want to start at an HBCU

720
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 8: and why were you why did you change?

721
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 9: I wanted to start at the biggest level you did, Okay,

722
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 9: I just didn't have the opportunities, you know, coming out

723
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 9: of high school. I had one offer from FIU that story.

724
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 9: Everybody know that story. Took my offer stuff like that.

725
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 9: My best friend, his dad was a running back coach

726
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 9: at Alabama, and he blessed me with the opportunity to

727
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 9: get the offer of scholarship from them. Went there and

728
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 9: then I just bettered on myself after that.

729
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 8: So okay, So at what point, like I would think

730
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 8: that if you go through all that, you think this

731
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 8: is really tough. Like I didn't get a lot of offers.

732
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 8: I got to go through all these different avenues to

733
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 8: make it. Did you ever feel like maybe the NFL

734
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 8: thing isn't gonna happen or did you always feel like

735
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 8: that was going to be in the cards for you?

736
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 10: I was out out.

737
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 9: You always knew, yeah, I was gonna get here. You

738
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 9: did one way or another. I felt like I was

739
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 9: gonna get there.

740
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: You know.

741
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 9: It was times where I did doubt myself, like because

742
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 9: it was a lot of stuff I ain't gonna li

743
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 9: likee going JUCO then not have on really too many

744
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 9: offers of coming out of Juco and stuff like that.

745
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 9: But once I did get the opportunity to go to Houston,

746
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 9: I knew, like all I had to do was just

747
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 9: work hard, you know, work hard and put it out

748
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 9: on displayment on Saturdays and I would have the opportunity,

749
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 9: you know. So that was my mindset once I did

750
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 9: get there. But in JUCO, it was it was a

751
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 9: little rough role.

752
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 8: But I feel like the guys that go to JUCO

753
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 8: and then make it to the collegiate level there so

754
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 8: they're they're just different I think it's just different because

755
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 8: you had you had to work so hard to even

756
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 8: get to that college level. That might have come a

757
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 8: lot easier for some other guys. All right, so you

758
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 8: you were a Necklaces's flash that's your nickname Flash. But

759
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 8: I feel like you you are flashy, but yet you

760
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 8: work really hard and obviously you had to work really

761
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 8: hard to get to this point. What do you like

762
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 8: off the field? I've seen your Instagram. I think everybody's

763
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 8: seen your Instagram. You like the fashion, you like the drip.

764
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 8: What's what's your whole vibe like? Outside of sports field?

765
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 9: Won't being completely honest, Like, especially during season, I don't

766
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 9: do nothing. I'd probably go home and play on call

767
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 9: of duty day.

768
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 8: Call of duty, Okay, not like I get home. Are

769
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 8: you playing with teammates or you're just like.

770
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 9: I'm playing, well some of my friends back home.

771
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 8: Okay, Okay, I go home.

772
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 9: That's how I like connect, like stay in touch with

773
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 9: my boys back home. Okay, just get on the game

774
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 9: after you know, it's season, so of course film and

775
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 9: all that, but yeah, you know, in my free time,

776
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 9: when I want some downtime, I get on the game

777
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 9: and I just sit.

778
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 10: There all day and play the game, okay.

779
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 9: And then other than that, you know, just food spots

780
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 9: down here in Houston. Taste Bargo to Taste bar a Lot,

781
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 9: that's a good food spot. But I hang with some

782
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 9: of my boys down here, you know, just chilling stuff

783
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 9: like that.

784
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 10: But nothing crazy.

785
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 8: What about like when it's not the season, what are

786
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 8: you into?

787
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: Oh?

788
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 8: He's like, oh okay, uh, not in season. You don't

789
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 8: have to worry about football. You don't have to worry

790
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 8: about anything else. Like, yeah, yeah, like what do you

791
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 8: what are you into? You have hobbies? Like it's football?

792
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Just it?

793
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 8: Okay? You play basketball, all right?

794
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 10: I just know how to shoot, Okay.

795
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 8: I mean I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.

796
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 9: Yes, but you know, we played this where you can't

797
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 9: really do too much because you don't want to, Like you.

798
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 8: Don't want to. You're you're serious about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

799
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 8: I don't blame you. Do you have a dog?

800
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 3: Do?

801
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 8: Okay? What's your dog's name?

802
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 10: Ghosts?

803
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 8: Ghost?

804
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: Okay?

805
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 8: What kind of dog?

806
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: Can?

807
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 8: Okay?

808
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 10: Big dog? How old he's one? He just turned one?

809
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 10: He messing my crib.

810
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 8: A puppy.

811
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 10: I'm about to send them back to Florida.

812
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 8: Oh, so you brought him from Florida to Houston.

813
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 10: I had him when I was at you.

814
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 8: Ah, okay, but you thought a puppy would be a

815
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 8: good idea when you're like finishing college and going into

816
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 8: the NFL. You thought that'd be a good idea because

817
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 8: you had so much free time.

818
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 9: I was gonna get him to my mom, oh okay,

819
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 9: and let her raise until he got old enough.

820
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 8: And then take him on. That sounds like a plan.

821
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 9: But now it's like, I send him to like two

822
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 9: different trainer places, none of them work.

823
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 8: Why what is he? He does? He chew your stuff?

824
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 8: Why is he? Why is he so bad? I feel

825
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 8: like Ghost is probably super cute.

826
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 9: Nah, he's definitely cute. But man, he going to the

827
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 9: I don't know how he get into my trash? Like

828
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 9: he going to my trash. Oh gosh, I got some frienditure,

829
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 9: like for my new place.

830
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 8: No, first day, he chewed up your furniture.

831
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 9: I'm like, yo, I'm finna get rid of him. But nah,

832
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 9: I love him though.

833
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 8: Okay, so Ghost is gonna stay with you for a

834
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 8: little while. Still, it's good to hear.

835
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 10: Got probably one more mistake than I'm He's.

836
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 8: Like, you got eight strikes. If you're on the ninth one,

837
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 8: then you're out of here, all right. So what about

838
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 8: for you for this upcoming game, it's JJ Watt game.

839
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 8: I know you were here for a little bit of

840
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 8: JJ Watt the end of his career in Houston, Like, like,

841
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 8: what did you remember what it was like when he

842
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 8: was here?

843
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: You know?

844
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 8: What is it like to get to see his name

845
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 8: go up in the Ring of Honor.

846
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 9: That's a blessing for him for sure. I know he's

847
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 9: a legend out here for sure, definitely a legend. But

848
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 9: just just knowing, like when he did play, I know

849
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 9: he had a stadium rocking. Like even now you still

850
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 9: see like ninety nine jerseys.

851
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 10: Like everybody everywhere.

852
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, everybody's still rocking JJ Watt jerseys. Man, So he

853
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 9: on a level. He on a different level out here, man,

854
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 9: And that's a blessing for him for sure.

855
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: Man with takes started breaking down every family member that

856
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: was there. That's pretty good. I mean to remember all

857
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: those people.

858
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: The man's from Daytona, be sure, Daytona, however you want

859
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: to look at it.

860
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: But grid that he plays.

861
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: In Houston and considers Houston home. But I love the

862
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: relationship that he and CJ. Stroud have That is very

863
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: very good news. Speaking of good news, how about.

864
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: A little in the Lab. But Drew Dorty, that's next

865
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access, it is time to

866
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: go in the lab with me.

867
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: John Harris foot palling out a sideline report at one

868
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: half of the n Lab crew. The other half is

869
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: my better half in the Lab style, Drew Doherty.

870
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: We had a lot to talk about on this one.

871
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Let's dive in right here.

872
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 11: If I were to do three versions of one podcast,

873
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 11: there's nobody I'd want to do three versions of it

874
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 11: with more John Harris, John, we're kicking off a brand

875
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 11: new Texans in the Lab. So if you're listening to this,

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877
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 11: or rating, and tell everyone hell a little much you

878
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 11: love this.

879
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: But John, what's going on on? Bro?

880
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: Uh?

881
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: Not much, buddy, Just trying to live life after a

882
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: Texans win. Do a little tell straighter looking at some

883
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: of the great things that Texans were able to do

884
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: and well, the Texans coaching staff and players put together

885
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: a really masterful plan and when you watch the film,

886
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: it really pops out what they were.

887
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Able to do against the Jaguars. So it's good. And

888
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: now we're just getting ready for j. J. Watt Meek.

889
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 11: I love it, I love it, I love it. Okay,

890
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 11: Here on today's show, this is what we got. Johnny

891
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 11: and I are gonna chit chat about an under the

892
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 11: radar player to watch against the Steelers. We're also going

893
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 11: to get into some wild JJ Watt memories because hey,

894
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 11: he's going into the Ring of Honor this weekend.

895
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 6: Plus, I'm gonna give you some fun.

896
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 11: Off the field interview selections from Motor Devin Singletary. He

897
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 11: had his mom, he had his sister there in the crowd,

898
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 11: Yellow Motor, and he had some big runs at the

899
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 11: end of Sunday's game. He also had some nice blocks

900
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 11: as well. Plus Chris My, not the former Texan center,

901
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 11: but the guy who called the last two Texans games

902
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 11: play by play wise last week.

903
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 6: And the week before.

904
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 11: He is a giant in the industry, and I got

905
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 11: a chance to talk sports broadcasting with him about his career.

906
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 11: You know, earlier I had talked about the matchup, but

907
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 11: that is in the rear view, so we're not gonna

908
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 11: air that portion. We're gonna air this stuff, the good stuff,

909
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 11: and have some fun with Chris. He was a real

910
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 11: good sport and it was fun actually seeing him at

911
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 11: the game Sunday up in the press box and chit

912
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 11: chatting with him before before the thing's kicked off. But John,

913
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 11: let's get into it against the Steelers this Sunday. You're

914
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 11: under the radar Texan to watch is.

915
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Oh boy, I'm gonna go with Steven Nelson.

916
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: And the reason I'm going with Steven Nelson I think

917
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: since Steven Nelson has gotten here in twenty twenty two.

918
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: And I remember when Nelson signed, there was some noise,

919
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: especially from people in Kansas City.

920
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: Like oh oh, oh my.

921
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: God, he's a holding kind of the way to happen.

922
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: He's this, He's that man. Steven Nelson couldn't be more

923
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: further from.

924
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: What he was early in his career.

925
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: He has been absolutely brilliant for this Texans team. And

926
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: I know there was some of that noise in the offseason,

927
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: you know about a contract and we come back and

928
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: all that. Well, he got that contract thing worked out

929
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: and he left it all behind. He became a captain

930
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: and has played the lights out. Now it's the Steelers offensively,

931
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any one thing they do

932
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 2: exceptionally well, but they have an exceptional talent at wide

933
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: receiver and that's George Pickens, and that's probably a matchup

934
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: that Steven's going to get a decent majority of the game.

935
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: And the way he has played, I'm very confident that

936
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Steven Nelson is going to step up to the challenge.

937
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: He has never He's never shrunk him from a challenge.

938
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: He plays with an edge. I love the way that

939
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: he plays. He's been a good leader for this team.

940
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: He's been a leader for a secondary that was for

941
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: a time without Jalen Petrie, for a time without Jimmy Ward,

942
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: and now for all a lot of time without Derek Stingley,

943
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: and Steven Nelson has been the consistent one back there

944
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: and his play has gotten better. It's not a sign curve.

945
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: It's not up and down and up and down. It's

946
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: a linear progression with a positive slope. More why more

947
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: changing why There is changing X and that's a good

948
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: thing when you're a corner, So you know, the more

949
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: math we can bring to in the lab, Drew the

950
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: better off because that just lets his geek out. But

951
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: I think Steven Nelson has been exceptional for this team,

952
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna play a big role against

953
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 2: the Steelers on Sunday.

954
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: I like that.

955
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 11: That's a great choice. Think about what has happened for

956
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 11: the Texans this season. In the first week, they allowed

957
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 11: a seventy eight yard receiver in Zay Flowers. That's it's

958
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 11: pretty good, but that's the most that anyone got, seventy

959
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 11: eight yards. And then there's some thirty yard receivers as

960
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 11: well against the Colts the next week, Week two. Now,

961
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 11: I know the first week was a loss. I know

962
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 11: the second week was not the best effort defensively from

963
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 11: this team. But you had an eighty eight rushing day

964
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 11: by Zack Moss. But over on the receiving side, most

965
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 11: anybody got was fifty six yards. That's Michael Pittman eight catches.

966
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 11: Took him eight catches to get fifty six yards. Okay.

967
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 11: And then what did we see Trevor Lawrence and company

968
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 11: do on Sunday in Jacksonville? Okay, leading receiver he got.

969
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 11: Let's look through the receiving yardage chart, not a whole

970
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 11: heck of a lot. Sixty seven yards by Evan Ingram.

971
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 11: That's a tight end. These guys have been doing a

972
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 11: great job, and he's the main reason why it was

973
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 11: funny after that win in Jacksonville, one of the equipment

974
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 11: guys for the Texans, as Nelson was walking out, was saying,

975
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 11: y'all know the.

976
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: New nickname for Steven Nelson. It's seat belts.

977
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just locking people up.

978
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 11: So that was kind of fun to hear. I like

979
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 11: your choice of Steven Nelson. I'll go with Shaq Griffin.

980
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 11: You know, he had a big return to Jacksonville last weekend.

981
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 11: He's got to be called upon. He started, He's gonna

982
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 11: be called upon him sure again to start this week

983
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 11: against the Steelers. So I'm gonna answer your Nelson with

984
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 11: Shaq Griffin. Let's see what he does. He's my under

985
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 11: the radar guy, because could you imagine if one of

986
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 11: us had picked Andrew Beck last week as our under

987
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 11: under the ball.

988
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Can I tell you this quick story.

989
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: I'd love it.

990
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I always love we always love story. Timon in the lab.

991
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: So the Jaguar score to make it seventeen ten, it's

992
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: kind of feeling a little diceier now, like we have

993
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: this seventeen leading out seventeen ten, and in my mind,

994
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, man, we've.

995
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Got we need to score in the in the worst

996
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: way we need. I don't care what it is.

997
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: There were like four minutes and thirty seconds left in

998
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: the third quarter, and I just wanted to get to

999
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter with the lead and see what you

1000
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: can do.

1001
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: But we need a point.

1002
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: So right before the kickoff, Mark threw it down to

1003
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: me and I said, look, guys, I don't care how

1004
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: the Texans score. I don't care if it's uh and

1005
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: I pulled this one out of my backside. I don't

1006
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: care if it's a ninety five yards throwback to an

1007
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: eligible tackle. George Fan, he goes ninety five yards for

1008
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: a touchdown, I don't care. But they've got a score,

1009
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: no matter how improbable it might be. And I literally

1010
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: said that, and not thirty seconds later, Andrew Beck is

1011
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: running back at kick return and I was kind of

1012
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: screaming and yelling at the tugs.

1013
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: Was excited with scored, but it was like I told you,

1014
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: it was gonna be improbable.

1015
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: I told you, And that was about as improbable as

1016
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: a god. So no offense, Big George, because Big George

1017
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: Fan played a big a good game. But you know,

1018
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: the ninety five yard throwback screen at George Fant was

1019
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: probably not in Bobby Slowan's playbook, but I wanted to

1020
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: point out the improbability. I didn't care, and that was

1021
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: about as improbable as a god. So that was that

1022
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: was huge to get that one on that kick return.

1023
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, the Texans sideline would have been celebrating

1024
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 11: had anyone returned to kickoff first score. Yeah, but when

1025
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 11: it's somebody who's not supposed to be doing it like

1026
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 11: a full back, yeah, they're going to go even more bananas.

1027
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 11: Fullbacks and no tackles. And I've said this on the

1028
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 11: show a few different times over the years, those guys

1029
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 11: pretty much have the respect of the entire locker room.

1030
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 11: Doesn't matter who you are, you can't screw with them

1031
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 11: because they are the dirty workers.

1032
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 6: They do the dirty work.

1033
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 11: More so than anybody else on the team, maybe close

1034
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 11: close up there as the interior offensive lineman. But man,

1035
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 11: seeing a fullback score like that, there's a reason it

1036
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 11: was chaos in a good sort of way on the

1037
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 11: sideline because it was really really fun to see. I mean, heck,

1038
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 11: I even had it was chaotic for me because I'm

1039
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 11: shooting it on my little cell phone. I'm in the

1040
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 11: corner of the end zone. It's sunny, so he can't

1041
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 11: really tell what's on the screen. But I was able

1042
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 11: to follow the action enough, and then when it cleared out,

1043
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 11: I could just tell by the running style and the

1044
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 11: long locks flowing. He was like, oh, I drove back

1045
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 11: and so yeah, that's why I screamed that out. And

1046
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 11: I was really happy for him, because that guy does

1047
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 11: a lot of dirty work and it's good to see

1048
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 11: him get some reward and gets some flowers.

1049
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 6: They're giving him flowers.

1050
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 11: It's one of those terms these days.

1051
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 10: There you go.

1052
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 11: Let's talk about a guy who had a lot of

1053
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 11: flowers in his career. He's gonna get some more flowers

1054
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 11: on Sunday, deservedly. So Jay J Watt going into the

1055
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 11: ring of honor. I want your wild ass JJ Watt memory.

1056
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 6: What is it?

1057
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: Well?

1058
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: I go to Cleveland in twenty fourteen. That was my

1059
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: first year on the sidelines, and that was the game.

1060
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: It was interesting that Texans were coming off of bye week,

1061
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: I think, and the Browns were hot.

1062
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: The Browns like six and three.

1063
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1064
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: In that game.

1065
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: On the first series, JJ lined up wide as a

1066
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: wide receiver and he was being covered by Christian Kirksey

1067
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 2: who actually had great coverage and we saw Kirko for

1068
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: a few years.

1069
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: Here, congratulations at Kirka on a great career. Yeah, Kirka

1070
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: was good in coverage.

1071
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: And Mallet Ryan Mallett rip big Text throws a dime

1072
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: and JJ is running a fade route against the Cleveland Browns.

1073
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: So that's how the game started.

1074
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: Then JJ has these two fifteen yard roughing the punter.

1075
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: Penalties almost got him to you almost blocked both, I know.

1076
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: And one of the best things was after the second one.

1077
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: I'm watching this interaction. So JJ comes off and JJ

1078
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: had this like he would stand on the sidelines.

1079
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: He's kind of tired.

1080
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: He kind of put his hands on his hips, Like

1081
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: I could see it now, like if you get tired

1082
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: or exasperated about something, or he was upset or somebody

1083
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: was upset to him. That was kind of the stance

1084
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: he took. And I could see Bill O'Brien just fuming.

1085
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: But it's not he can't get MADJ because you know,

1086
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: like JJ did everything for that team, and so he

1087
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: kind of fumes for like a min or so, and

1088
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: then he walks over while he's like get back in there.

1089
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: Walk goes right in the game and gets like a

1090
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: tackle for a loss, like within the first few plays.

1091
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm dying laughing watching this interaction. But it was on

1092
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: a plane home when you and I were seeing next

1093
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: to each other and I kind of hit you as

1094
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: you fall asleep and said, you look at this. It's

1095
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: the game book. And in the game book it has

1096
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: all the stats to all the games, and there's one

1097
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: pay specifically that has the defensive stats, and it's got

1098
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: like all these different columns for all the differ things

1099
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: and stats that a defensive player can measure. And I'm like, Drew,

1100
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: there's a there's a number in every column for JJ,

1101
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: except for maybe one or two. Most guys will have

1102
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: like two or three columns were a number, and then

1103
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: everything else is a zero, and it looks it's just zero.

1104
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: It's all the way across.

1105
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: JJ's got a number in every single column but maybe one.

1106
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: He did that multiple games, and I just I remember

1107
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: you kind of looked at me and you shake, you

1108
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: shook your head. You're like he's incredible, and then you're

1109
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: like he's a jungle cat, like there was a term

1110
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: you always used for him.

1111
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, man, this is.

1112
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, and so I kept track of that throughout his career,

1113
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: like how many times did he hit like all these

1114
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: different columns, And in twenty fourteen he hit all those columns.

1115
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: But from the fade route touchdown to the two roughing

1116
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: the padiser penal or rough of the punter penalties, to

1117
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: four TFLs to two to two and a half sacks,

1118
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: he did it all in.

1119
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: That game against Cleveland, the game that we really needed

1120
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: to have.

1121
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: And then the funny story of on the side lines,

1122
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: I just cracked up so that Cleveland get that Cleveland

1123
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: trip was Oh, it was solid, and that was just

1124
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: an amazing kind of response by JJ Watt and that

1125
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: was wild to say the least. Make sure you go

1126
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: get the full in the Lab podcast because Drew tells

1127
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: a great story of JJ Watt and Ryan Fitzpatrick that

1128
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: you just you gotta hear, because knowing both guys is

1129
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 2: absolutely dead on. Speaking of dead on, Indie klu is

1130
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: dead on with Texans OG's every single week. This week,

1131
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: former House State Buckeye star, former Texan Jonathan Wells joins

1132
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: ND for Texans Ogs.

1133
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: That's next on Texans All Access. We got one on

1134
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: the books one are left to go.

1135
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Right here on a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access,

1136
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm your host John Harris Football and All the sideline

1137
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: reporter for your Houston Texans, and one of our favorite

1138
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: Texans legends to interview is Jonathan Wells, running back at

1139
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: Ohio State, got to the Texans, was an original Texans

1140
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: so he epitomizes Texans Ogs and each and every week

1141
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: ND catches up with one of the great tech's legends.

1142
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: This week it is Jonathan Wells John Curtis High School,

1143
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: which I know pretty well because I had a really

1144
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: good friend of mine that went to John Curtis that

1145
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: he went to Ohio State, then he came to the Texans.

1146
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: Jonathan Wells George nd klu for a little Texans ogez

1147
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: ind take it.

1148
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 12: Away, Welcome in another episode of the OG podcast. I'm

1149
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 12: sitting in with an original OG, Jonathan Wells, drafted by

1150
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 12: the Houston Texans during the two thousand and two draft

1151
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 12: out of the fourth round, coming from Ohio State. But

1152
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 12: a guy that's been here and been a part of

1153
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 12: the program from day one, lucky enough to get the OG.

1154
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 12: Jonathan Wells sitting in with me. I am in d Kalu,

1155
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 12: the host of the OG podcast Let's Get It. Welcome,

1156
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 12: Welcome to the show OG. How are you, Man? I'm great, Man.

1157
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 12: I appreciate you for having me. Boss's great to sit

1158
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 12: down with you, you know, and I feel like you're

1159
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 12: the original OJU. Now, two thousand and two, that was

1160
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 12: the first draft. Yes, I was in Philly at that time,

1161
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 12: and I remember not only do they draft people out

1162
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 12: of college, but they also had the draftsplemental douplemental T.

1163
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 12: Thank you very much, supplemental. So that makes you an OG.

1164
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 12: But if anybody follows you on social media, you've been

1165
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 12: doing the OG Texan for a couple of years now,

1166
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 12: so you're a true OG in that sense.

1167
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: So yeah, at the talk about that first YEA.

1168
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 13: At the end of the day, Man, I take a

1169
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 13: lot of pride and being drafted in the first draft

1170
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 13: class of all times here in Houston. To come here

1171
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 13: in two thousand and two when the team was being

1172
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 13: originated and be a part of that first year, I

1173
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 13: take a lot of pride in that.

1174
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We worked hard. We actually

1175
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: won four games.

1176
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 13: We could have won seven or eight games easy, so

1177
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 13: we were very competitive out the Gate, you know, so

1178
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 13: I definitely take a lot of pride, man. So I'm

1179
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 13: definitely an OG when it comes to this Texans football.

1180
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 12: It's funny I was speaking with Andrew back earlier today

1181
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 12: and we were talking about that first win against the

1182
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 12: Dallas Cowboys, and even in Philadelphia when I was playing

1183
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 12: with the Eagles in the locker room, it resonated because

1184
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 12: in the locker room, guys are like, man, y'all see

1185
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 12: what happened in you know, down in Texas, the Texas

1186
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 12: beat the Cowboys because you didn't expect that to happen.

1187
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 12: Can you talk about, you know, that game, because that's

1188
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 12: that's always going to be a part of the Texan history.

1189
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a legendary night.

1190
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 11: Man.

1191
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 13: When you want to talk about the energy in the stadium,

1192
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 13: I don't think I've ever felt that I played in

1193
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 13: front one hundred and twelve, one hundred and ten thousand

1194
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 13: and a big ten, But the electricity that was in

1195
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 13: there that Sunday night, man, it was crazy. So to

1196
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 13: go out there and shock the world, upset the Cowboys

1197
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 13: on Sunday Night Football nineteen to ten, I mean, it's

1198
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 13: just being a porter.

1199
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Speaker 3: That was a legendary for it. So that was a

1200
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: great night in the city of Houston.

1201
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 12: Did it feel like you were coming to an upstart

1202
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 12: team because you're this was all you and you that

1203
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 12: coming out of college going to a team where this

1204
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 12: was the first year in its existence.

1205
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: I can't even speak right now, but at the time.

1206
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 12: Did you like, did it feel like they were trying

1207
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 12: to feel their way around or were things pretty secure.

1208
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 3: In what y'all were doing?

1209
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 13: I think, I mean, obviously, like you said, it was

1210
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 13: my first time. I think everything hit the ground running smooth.

1211
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 13: Dom Capers ran a tight ship, and we were all business,

1212
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. We had a beautiful facility,

1213
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 13: you know, one of the first facilities with the retractable roof.

1214
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 13: Everything was top of the line in two thousand and

1215
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 13: two and in two thousand and two, so you gotta remember, man,

1216
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 13: excitement in the city just to have football back in

1217
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 13: the city of Houston was enormous, you know what I mean.

1218
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 13: So the energy, the love that the city showed us,

1219
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 13: I don't think I don't think you could repeat that,

1220
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 13: that love that we got to know too.

1221
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 12: So I mean that's just why I see it now.

1222
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 12: You're coming from one of the biggest programs in the country.

1223
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 12: Let's take a step back, and you grew up in Louisiana. Yes,

1224
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 12: so your high school ball Louisiana. I'm sure everybody wanted you.

1225
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 12: What what what? What was it about Ohio State where

1226
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 12: you said by to l s U and you know,

1227
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 12: you passed a lot of schools to get from Louisana

1228
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 12: to Ohio State. What was it about Ohio State?

1229
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 13: Well, man, I take a lot of pride in that

1230
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 13: I was the first player ever from the state of

1231
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 13: Louisiana to get a scholarship to play football at Ohio State.

1232
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: Sold. Yeah, yeah, I.

1233
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 13: Broke, I broke. I broke that mode. Run run a

1234
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 13: lot of talent. Run the resume, run the resume. I'm

1235
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 13: the first one that can't be I'm the first one.

1236
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 13: There's a lot now, first Buckeye from Louisiana.

1237
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: Run it.

1238
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 12: But you're not that old, like if you were some

1239
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 12: eighty year old brother telling me this. I'm just telling you,

1240
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 12: in the history of the school, I'm the first one

1241
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 12: to get an athletic scholarship from Louisiana for football.

1242
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's a fact. That's big. I know. I that's

1243
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: what I'm telling you for are you the first one

1244
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 3: to first? Of all?

1245
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 12: Even if this is the case, that's pretty amazing, right

1246
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 12: Are you the first one to accept a scholarship from

1247
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 12: Ohio safe from Louisiana. I don't really care about that,

1248
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 12: but you the first one to go, the first one

1249
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 12: excepting Go, I'm the first one accepting Go. I did

1250
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 12: not know I'm the first one to accept and go.

1251
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 12: So what drew me to a house statement? It was simple.

1252
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 12: I was a Notre Dame fan in the late eighties,

1253
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 12: to be honest with you. You know the bus, you

1254
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 12: know rocket ishmael Tony Rice, You know what I'm saying.

1255
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 7: I was.

1256
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 13: I was a big Irish fan coming up well in

1257
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 13: nineteen ninety four, nineteen ninety five, Man, I saw this

1258
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 13: kid named Eddie George six three, two thirty five playing tailback.

1259
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: Now you gotta remember, out of high school.

1260
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 13: I was about six two two thirty five two thirty

1261
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 13: coming out of high school, so I was a big back.

1262
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 13: A lot of schools recruited me a linebacker, and some

1263
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 13: schools recruited me at fullback.

1264
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: So I had could have went anywhere I wanted.

1265
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 13: It just depends on what I wanted to play, so

1266
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 13: I wanted to be a big tail back to the ball.

1267
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 13: And when I saw Eddie George, it was a wrap

1268
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 13: from ninety five my sophomore year on, I was a

1269
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 13: Buckeye as soon as I saw him.

1270
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 12: That straws in my Eddie George story. So I went

1271
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 12: to Rice University. At the time, we were the smallest

1272
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 12: Division I school. I don't know why, but we went

1273
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 12: to Ohio State twice. During oh they put up seventy

1274
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 12: on youall? Was that that year?

1275
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 3: That's not the year I'm talking about? You right?

1276
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 12: They beat a seventy to seven. You know what's funny

1277
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 12: about that? Before that game, you couldn't tell me we

1278
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 12: were gonna lose. Do you know how loaded that squad was?

1279
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 12: Bro are you are?

1280
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 5: You?

1281
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: Come on? That squad was nuts.

1282
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 13: David State through the nineties talent wise is up there

1283
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 13: with any but anybody that plays.

1284
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 12: Into the story that I'm telling you about Eddie George. So

1285
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 12: this is my true freshman year. We go up to

1286
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 12: Ohio State this year they beat us thirty four to seven.

1287
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 12: But you know, we fighting, and you know I'm a

1288
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 12: young one hundred and ninety pounds defensive end going against

1289
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 12: Corey Stringer. But the point is after about the fourth quarter,

1290
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 12: when I'm like, man, these boys are a beast. The

1291
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 12: third string tailback comes in. Guess who that is? Eddie George.

1292
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 14: Wow.

1293
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 12: And I'm sitting there getting in my stands and i

1294
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 12: remember thinking to this to myself, why is that defensive

1295
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 12: end lining up?

1296
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 3: Lining up?

1297
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1298
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: This man was huge? Man, he was huge. Ohio State

1299
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: was loaded. Yea, what is it about? What is it?

1300
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 12: Is it about the recruiting trip? Like why are they

1301
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 12: able to land so much talent? It's the tradition.

1302
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 13: You know, This tradition goes back to the eighteen hundreds,

1303
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying, especially when the great Woody

1304
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 13: Hayes got there in the late in the nineteen fifties.

1305
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 13: He had a twenty five year run there. That's legendary.

1306
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 13: So you know, it kind of kicked off from there.

1307
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 13: But it just you know, we got the only two

1308
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 13: time Heusman Trophy winner. I mean, you know, we went

1309
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 13: up eighty five percent of our football games pretty much.

1310
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 13: I mean, we just played great football in the brand.

1311
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 13: It's the biggest brand in the world. We might not

1312
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 13: win the most championships, but are We're talking about a

1313
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 13: college football brand worldwide.

1314
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we dominate when it comes to that.

1315
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 12: So for you to go to a school that much

1316
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 12: history and I read somewhere your top fifteen rushing yards.

1317
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 13: Well when I left, I was number ten when I left.

1318
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 13: Now I'm twenty. Okay, we've had monster like we are

1319
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 13: running back you like, we have so many great collegiate

1320
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 13: running backs come through this schools. It's incredible. I looked

1321
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 13: up my stats to University of Miami. I'll be number

1322
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 13: six all time right now with my fifteen starts. Wow,

1323
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. So I take pride in that.

1324
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 13: But when I left, I was like number ten on

1325
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 13: the on the all time list. So some guys that

1326
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 13: came through trucking after that with.

1327
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 3: Fifteen starts, that's a lot about what you did.

1328
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 13: I averaged five points two yards of carriage, so you

1329
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 13: know every two times I touched it, we getting the

1330
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 13: first down.

1331
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 12: So were you happy with your your carries? Like, did

1332
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 12: you see to yourself? You know what, I got a

1333
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 12: bunch of dogs with me, so we're gonna share this

1334
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 12: or do you feel like they didn't usually like they

1335
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 12: should have.

1336
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 14: Well?

1337
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: I was always a team player.

1338
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 13: I come from the greatest high school on the planet

1339
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 13: in New Orleans, Giant Curtis Christian School, so we were

1340
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 13: taught team ball, So I never got into the individual

1341
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 13: status part of it. Now, looking back at it as

1342
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 13: a grown man, I wish I was a little bit

1343
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 13: more selfish, you.

1344
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1345
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 13: But that just wasn't a part of my DNA. I

1346
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 13: was down to do whatever the team needed to do

1347
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 13: to win. And I didn't look at personal stats back then,

1348
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 13: But now looking at it and where I fill in

1349
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 13: the record books, I wish I was. It all worked

1350
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 13: out fine, and then a bit I got injured too.

1351
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 13: That that that derailed me from a lot of yours.

1352
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 13: First game of my sophomore year, I had the most

1353
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 13: momentum ever coming into that that off season I had.

1354
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: I was two thirty eight eight percent body fat.

1355
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 13: I'm talking about straight monster and were playing the University

1356
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 13: of Miami. First game of the year, got a high

1357
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 13: angle spring and uh, you know, I didn't get back

1358
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 13: right till like the last two or three games for

1359
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 13: that season.

1360
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 3: And that that that took, that took a lot out

1361
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: of me.

1362
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 12: I was gonna say those it won my third year

1363
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 12: in the league, man they stay with you.

1364
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 13: That's what I'm saying. Like, came back running high. I

1365
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 13: couldn't get my leveries, didn't have no bursts. Now, the

1366
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 13: last two games of that year, I started popping long runs.

1367
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 13: My sophomore year, I had three carris for eighty five

1368
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 13: yards against Michigan. I have his thirty up there, you

1369
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 13: know what I mean, seventy six yard run second time

1370
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 13: I touched it.

1371
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: So I was getting back in the form.

1372
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 13: But if I had that whole season, I think my

1373
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 13: stats would being a whole nother stratusphere.

1374
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, Michigan.

1375
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 12: So one of my good friends, and now he's a

1376
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 12: neighbor of mine, player a train, Anthony Thomas.

1377
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: I love him. I love her. Yeah, he was on

1378
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 3: that team. I love him. I love I have not

1379
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: I don't even know him. Okay, I don't even know him.

1380
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 13: I just love him because he's from Louisiana and he

1381
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 13: was a dog running back.

1382
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: He was a dog. If you let him know I

1383
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: love him.

1384
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 12: You'll love him if you meet him. Now, family man,

1385
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 12: this boy yeah just country.

1386
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1387
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, he come from the country, Louisiana. I'm from the city. Yeah,

1388
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 13: he come from the neck of the woods. Look, this

1389
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 13: is this is how closed. Me and a train. Anthony

1390
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 13: Thomas are my RN and lawnmower wasn't working. So I

1391
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 13: texted him. I was like, Hey, what should I do?

1392
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 13: This food comes over with a black and mouth and

1393
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 13: with the socks and the slides the fingers.

1394
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

1395
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely definitely would love to meet

1396
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 13: him because he's a monster. Yeah, we definitely make He's

1397
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 13: a monster.

1398
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 12: So so you take that team mindset and you bring

1399
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 12: it to the Houston Texans when they draft you out

1400
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 12: of the fourth round in two thousand and two. And

1401
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 12: I'm sure that was important because at that time people

1402
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 12: feeling their way around. But like you said, they hit

1403
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 12: the ground running. But what was your role do you know?

1404
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 12: Early on with the Texans.

1405
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 13: To be honest with you, I feel like I was

1406
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 13: the most vocal player in the huddle. You know, we

1407
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 13: had David Carr, but I've never been in a huddle

1408
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 13: with a quarterback, and a quarterback was the leader, Like,

1409
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 13: I'm my energy and my my dog that I bring

1410
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 13: is going to resonate with the rest of the huddle.

1411
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 13: So I tried to bring that come out. But listen,

1412
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 13: I was a rookie like everybody else. We starting seven

1413
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 13: rookies on offense that year. Like we got we got

1414
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 13: we got punished back there, you know what I'm saying.

1415
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 13: But we kept we got up fighting. We only had

1416
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 13: two running backs on staff. We didn't miss a Me

1417
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 13: and James Allen didn't miss a rep that year. We

1418
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 13: took that pounding, got up, kept it pushing, you know

1419
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 13: what I mean. So it was amazing. But at the

1420
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 13: same time, you know, it was rough back there. I

1421
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 13: gotta tell you we got pounded.

1422
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah that strongs don't have two Yeah, we had

1423
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 12: too where one practice squad guy we didn't have nobody

1424
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,959
Speaker 12: else to hold y'all took every rep, every rep, every

1425
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 12: rep straight up. So that means y'all had more at

1426
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 12: a certain position to overload a certain position because you're

1427
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 12: supposed to have like six or seven running backs for practice.

1428
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 13: So we had me, James Allen and then and then

1429
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 13: we kept the guy Michael Jenkins.

1430
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: He was on a practice he was on a practice squad.

1431
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: What school did he go? Do you remember? He was

1432
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: from a smaller squad.

1433
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 12: I can't remember. For some reason, I remember that name. Man,

1434
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 12: I did not know that that's the story in itself.

1435
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 12: We told the rock, we told the load. Yeah that's

1436
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,439
Speaker 12: strong right there.

1437
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1438
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 12: So after that season, you feel like you get the

1439
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 12: rookie year under your belt and you understand like kind

1440
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 12: of the ways of the NFL.

1441
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 3: What was year two?

1442
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 13: Like, Well, this is when me and the Texans had

1443
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 13: a disconnect. They just took me out of the playbook.

1444
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 13: They didn't explain it to me. They didn't They didn't

1445
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 13: tell me why I wasn't going to get a chance

1446
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 13: to keep my store in job. They just decided to

1447
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 13: go another direction and they went out and brought him.

1448
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 13: I love him to debth my home in Stacey Mack.

1449
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 13: They went and brought him into from Jacksonville, which he

1450
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 13: was with offensive coordinator Chris Palmer in Jacksonville before that,

1451
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 13: so you know that that's how the politics played out.

1452
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: They brought him in to replace me. Mac didn't work out.

1453
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 13: That's how Dominick Davis was able to slide in there

1454
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 13: and get that spoty and I got a lot of love.

1455
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 3: Let me say this public.

1456
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 13: I got so much love for Dominic Davis because he

1457
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 13: is an example of getting your opportunity, taking that and

1458
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 13: running with it. And you know, so he played great football,

1459
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 13: and pretty much from there on out, they brought in

1460
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 13: a whole bunch of running backs, but it was pretty

1461
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 13: much me and double D from there.

1462
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 3: If he didn't start, I would start. He get hurt.

1463
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 13: I come in, step up, and you know, do what

1464
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 13: I need to do. But that's that's pretty much that

1465
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 13: second year. They threw me out of the playbook. Then

1466
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 13: the third year, I was able to get back my

1467
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 13: first start, rush full of one hundred yeard you know,

1468
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 13: seventy two yard touchdown to the house. They called it back.

1469
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 13: It's all good to still look pretty. But we won

1470
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 13: the game conveningly. So I knew I could play in

1471
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 13: this level. I knew I could play, you know what

1472
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 13: I mean. I hadn't started since my rookie year. My

1473
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 13: first start, I come and get a hundred. I know

1474
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 13: I could do this. Then the next week I don't

1475
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 13: play again, you know. So it was a lot of

1476
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 13: that going on. So I kind of just kept my

1477
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 13: head down, man, stuck to my my special teams role.

1478
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 13: Saluted Joe Marciano. He brought me in and was like, hey,

1479
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 13: they're not gonna use your office, bro. I love to

1480
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 13: have your own special teams and I took that the

1481
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 13: heart and I just became a dog on special teams

1482
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 13: from there.

1483
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 12: I love that attitude. I love that attitude though. First

1484
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 12: of all, before we go on Dominique Davis. Yeah, he's

1485
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 12: from Louisiana as well. Yes, sir bo Bridge, y'all out there. Yeah,

1486
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 12: that's why I was so surprised. Yeah, you told me

1487
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 12: what you said about how Stay and Joe Marciano loved him. Yeah,

1488
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 12: doll and that sounds like something he would say.

1489
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.

1490
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 13: The man, I swear to god, the man ran and

1491
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 13: caught me in the parking lot during the summer.

1492
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to my car after working out.

1493
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 13: The man runs out there and tells me like, hey, Jay,

1494
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 13: I don't know what's going on, bro, but you're not

1495
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 13: gonna play offense this year. So I told if they

1496
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 13: don't want you, I take you on special teams. I'm like,

1497
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 13: I bet you know what I'm saying. I ain't nothing,

1498
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 13: like I could do nothing about it. But I'm like,

1499
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 13: how you couldn't have watched the tape. You couldn't have

1500
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 13: said that you didn't see me making plays when opportunities

1501
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 13: presented itself my rookie year.

1502
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 12: So I just didn't understand it. That's the weird thing

1503
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 12: about that. In my twelve years in the NFL, every

1504
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 12: year there was always that head scratching moment, And it's

1505
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 12: more the coaching staff than the organization where I'm like,

1506
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 12: what are they seeing?

1507
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 3: What are they not?

1508
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 13: And it's like, if you look at my background everything

1509
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 13: out at my high school, we're the winning this high

1510
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 13: school in America and two and four more wins my

1511
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 13: coach would be the winning this high school football coach

1512
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 13: in America.

1513
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: So winning this football coach period any level.

1514
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 13: Six hundred and twenty two wins coming up, twenty eight

1515
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 13: state championships. Side of New Orleans, we do this Ohio State.

1516
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 13: The next year after I left, they won a championship.

1517
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 13: But guess what Jim Trussel will tell you, it was

1518
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 13: my leadership that I left in plays work ethic that

1519
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 13: they went and got that the next year when I

1520
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 13: was a rookie here doing my thing. So I don't

1521
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 13: know why you would take the keys off my hand.

1522
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 13: I'll never understand that.

1523
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 12: And it sounds like you're more of a falling line

1524
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 12: type soldier.

1525
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. I'm I didn't cry about it. I didn't.

1526
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1527
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 13: I didn't even cry about it. I didn't go to

1528
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 13: my coach about it. I don't do that. I figure

1529
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 13: I let my play do my talking.

1530
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 12: I never talked to a coach about Amen, what's going Hey,

1531
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 12: I must not be the best guy right now.

1532
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: But guess what, I'm gonna keep working.

1533
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 13: And every time my opportunities came back, and I ended

1534
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 13: up being the last man standing. I started my last

1535
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 13: few games here, So all those other backs they brought in, Nah, but.

1536
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: That's a life lesson right there.

1537
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, when things don't

1538
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 12: go your way, if you just keep grind that eventually

1539
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 12: it'll work his way out.

1540
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: And that's why you started. And my dad had a saying.

1541
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 13: He always just tell me when I was frustrated, son,

1542
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 13: don't get bitter, just get better. So I always stuck

1543
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 13: to that. That's why I never cried. I never complained.

1544
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 13: I just kept playing and always and my opportunities always came.

1545
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 3: They always fell my leapt for whatever reason.

1546
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 12: Now you're doing a lot of stuff with the Texans,

1547
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 12: and obviously there's a lot of excitement here. The mcnary's

1548
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 12: doing an awesome job with the excitement. Now it's time

1549
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 12: to keep winning, you know, all said and done. Yeah,

1550
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 12: I don't care how many cool T shirts we got.

1551
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 12: You know, Doug's doing an awesome job with that, but

1552
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 12: you got to win on the field to keep the momentum.

1553
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 12: But you've been a part of it. So when did

1554
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 12: you feel like, you know what, the relationship has been repaired?

1555
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 12: And again, I know it's more of the coaching staff

1556
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 12: than the organization. Yeah, it was never an organizational thing.

1557
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 12: It was one coach. I love everybody else. I love

1558
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 12: Dom Cables, I love Joe Marciano, I love Chick Harris.

1559
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 12: I just feel like Chris Palmer didn't really give me

1560
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 12: a shot, you know what I'm saying. And he ended

1561
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 12: up coming in and meeting that took me my fourth year,

1562
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 12: Like he was like, man, I gotta say, ja, man,

1563
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 12: I got you wrong.

1564
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 7: You know.

1565
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 13: I'm like, yeah, it's all good, but do you cost

1566
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 13: me a lot of time, a lot of carriers, and

1567
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 13: a lot of money at this point, so that don't

1568
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 13: really help me. But okay, I appreciate it, but I

1569
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 13: forgot what I was talking about.

1570
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 3: No, that's it.

1571
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 12: When did you say I'm willing to go back and

1572
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 12: do more well, you know, honestly, bro, When I left

1573
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 12: the league, I left on bad terms because of my decisions,

1574
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 12: nobody else's decisions but mine.

1575
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 13: But I left mad at the NFL. I left mad

1576
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 13: at everybody in the NFL. So I didn't watch NFL

1577
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 13: for like twelve years, bro, like at all, at all.

1578
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 13: Didn't talk about it, not watching no games, nothing, not

1579
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 13: good none. But as I grow older, as I'm mature,

1580
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 13: the Texans invited me back for Andre's Ring of Honor.

1581
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 13: That was the first time I came back, and it

1582
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 13: was such an amazing time.

1583
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: It was so much love.

1584
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 13: You know, I've been connected with the organization basically since

1585
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 13: then because right after that, they sent me over to Africa,

1586
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 13: Katar and Abu Dhabi to visit the troops. So that

1587
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 13: was a life changing trip to go on that side

1588
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 13: of the world, which I had never done before. So

1589
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 13: the Texans have been nothing but a blessing to me,

1590
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 13: even still till this day. Shout out the candas Maybury

1591
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 13: always opening the floodgates for me when I was back

1592
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 13: in town and invite me here as an ambassador.

1593
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: I really love what I do.

1594
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 13: You know, me, I always got my phone out I'm

1595
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 13: always making it look fun because it is. But we're

1596
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 13: a part of a five I point seven billion dollar organization.

1597
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 13: We should be proud of that, you know what I'm saying.

1598
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 13: So when I go out, I represent Achtown to the fullest.

1599
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 13: No matter where I'm at, whether I'm in the country

1600
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 13: or am I international, I'm still representing the Texans.

1601
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: You know what.

1602
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 12: That kind of hurts me that you spent twelve years

1603
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 12: away from the game because you put so much into

1604
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 12: it from being a little jit young man. Yeah until

1605
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 12: look I'm talking like I'm not in front of a

1606
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 12: mic on your little jit but seven years old, from

1607
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 12: a young man to the NFL. Regardless of what coaches

1608
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 12: got wrong, you should always appreciate what you gave to

1609
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 12: the game. So that hurts me to hear that you

1610
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 12: went twelve years not really able to watch it.

1611
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: I didn't. I hated myself.

1612
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 13: I know, I left a lot of money on the

1613
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 13: table with some of my decisions that I made after

1614
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 13: I left Houston. So I just, you know, one or

1615
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 13: two bad decisions. Man, take your life in a whole

1616
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 13: another direction, you know what I'm saying. So I put

1617
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 13: the work in twenty seven years of my life. I

1618
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 13: earned my pay and you know, one or two bad decisions,

1619
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 13: I never saw my second contract. So therefore, I was

1620
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 13: bitter about that a long time. But as I matured,

1621
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 13: as I just sit back and now actually look at

1622
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 13: my career, I can actually be proud about it. I

1623
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 13: got my film in from NFL Films that did a

1624
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 13: lot of it, because that's how I went to start

1625
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 13: watching and oh, man, you man, we're playing against the

1626
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 13: best of the best, this hall of famers out here,

1627
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 13: we stiff farming in the face were running through their face.

1628
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 13: So you know, that gave me a lot of my

1629
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 13: pride back in what I've accomplished. And right now, man,

1630
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 13: I'm extremely happy about to be in ducted into my

1631
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 13: high school Hall of Fame in New Orleans in two weeks.

1632
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 13: So I'm excited about that in Louisiana, and uh, you know,

1633
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 13: that's what it is.

1634
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 3: So two things.

1635
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 12: For the people who don't know the NFL films, if

1636
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 12: you reach out to them, they'll compile some of your

1637
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 12: highlights and send it to you. So it's cool. I

1638
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 12: did mine a couple of years ago. And you know,

1639
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,479
Speaker 12: when I think of my career, I'm like, I'm mainly

1640
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 12: a backup role player. I kind of downplayed, but then

1641
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 12: when I saw those highlights exactly, I called my son.

1642
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 12: I'm like, hey, yeah, your daddy used to do it.

1643
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 3: Come home. So you're talking about.

1644
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 12: It's pretty cool because the NFL could be very hummed because,

1645
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 12: like you came from that great high school tradition, you

1646
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 12: went to the biggest brand in Ohio state. Then you

1647
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 12: get to the league and sometimes you feel like and

1648
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 12: I felt this way, like I could do more for y'all.

1649
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 12: But then when you get a chance to see your highlights, you're.

1650
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 13: Like, yeah, you know, I was a damn good football Yeah,

1651
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 13: and that's all that matter, you know what I'm saying.

1652
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 13: So hey, it worked out how it worked out. But

1653
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,559
Speaker 13: I'm definitely happy to be here. I'm happy to still

1654
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 13: be a part of this organization.

1655
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: Big. We got to talk about c J. Stroud before

1656
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: we get out of here.

1657
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 12: Oh No, I want to get your take because a

1658
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 12: lot of the ogs, you know, we'll talk about stuff

1659
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 12: in the past, but you you're very cognizant of what's

1660
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 12: going on with the current team, right, you know about

1661
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 12: preparing for the Steelers and CJ. Stroute and I want

1662
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 12: to get your take on your former or fellow I

1663
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 12: should say fellow Ohio State Buckeye, and how.

1664
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 13: Mature he looks early on as a rookie. It doesn't

1665
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 13: surprise me anybody who knows I. I was the one

1666
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 13: screaming CJ Stroud. A lot of guys that not want

1667
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 13: CJ Stroud. They would have chosen the other guy if

1668
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 13: they had their choice. Thank god out front office coach Ryan's,

1669
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 13: coach Ryan's and Nick Casario, they made the right decision.

1670
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: Man.

1671
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 13: Listen, CJ just a great human being. That's why I

1672
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 13: love him. Like I tell people, I watched every single

1673
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 13: snap of this kid. You can't tell me nothing about

1674
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 13: c J. Stroud because I watched Buckeye football like that.

1675
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 13: I don't watch an NFL, but Buckeye football I don't miss,

1676
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 13: So I.

1677
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 3: Know everything about him.

1678
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 13: I've seen him go through adversity, I've seen him lose

1679
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 13: big games. I've seen him in every situation. So I

1680
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 13: kind of figured that if the game wasn't just too

1681
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 13: fast for him, he would be phenomenal.

1682
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 3: And that's what he's showing me right now. The game

1683
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 3: is not too fast.

1684
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 13: Even with the decimated offensive line right now, they still

1685
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 13: been able to put a great game play together for him,

1686
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 13: keeping protected this last game, and he's been phenomenal.

1687
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 3: Man, I'm so proud of this kid. I do already

1688
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: know how to say it.

1689
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 12: I keep hearing from players, veteran players about his leadership qualities.

1690
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 12: I remember watching this last game against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1691
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 12: It was in the third quarter with nine minutes thirty

1692
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 12: four seconds left.

1693
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 3: It was third and eight. He throws a dart.

1694
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 12: They blitz and he throws a dart to Nico Collins,

1695
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 12: his Nicos in the hands. He drops it and then

1696
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 12: I'm looking at CJ. And you know what he does.

1697
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 12: He goes up to Nico DAPs them up and it

1698
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 12: was real. You know a lot of guys that will

1699
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 12: do something for the camera, but he DAPs them up.

1700
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 12: I don't know what was said because I was watching

1701
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 12: it on the television, but you just got the sense

1702
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 12: that he was like, man, I'm gonna come back to

1703
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 12: you sooner or later before this game's over. And for

1704
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 12: a rookie to do that, you know, he didn't show

1705
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 12: We see some of the great quarterbacks they kind of,

1706
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 12: you know, show up the wide receivers with their body

1707
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 12: language after a play like that. He went up to

1708
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 12: him dap them up, and you could tell he says

1709
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 12: something to the effect of, don't worry, I'm gonna go.

1710
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: Back to you.

1711
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, But that's just him. He just like I said,

1712
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 13: he's just a phenomenal leader. The good thing is he's

1713
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 13: been in the quarterback position at Ohio State, man is

1714
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 13: one of the most scrutinized positions in the country when

1715
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 13: it comes to your level of play, your the expectations

1716
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 13: that they have for you. So I knew he would

1717
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 13: be able to handle all of that type of stuff.

1718
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 13: Like I said, I was just curious to see if

1719
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 13: he was going to be able to get out here

1720
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 13: and do it with that NFL pass rush. As you know,

1721
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,799
Speaker 13: we know a lot of guys that are great in college,

1722
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 13: but then get to that league and it's a whole

1723
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 13: new ball game with that pass rush. So I'm just

1724
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 13: I'm excited about his future and he just has to

1725
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 13: continue to stay humble and continue to get better and

1726
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 13: better and better every single day, which I know he will.

1727
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 13: He's not satisfied. He still hasn't won that big game yet.

1728
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 13: He lost to the team up North twice, lost to

1729
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 13: Georgia and a heartbreaker. Get that Super Bowl over here

1730
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 13: soon down the line. That's what I think the big

1731
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 13: one gonna be for. He deserved one. Yeah, yeah, he

1732
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 13: deserved one. He deserved one. Great kid like this with

1733
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 13: the word that he deserved one. Meet him, of course.

1734
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,839
Speaker 3: Up there or here. I met him here, I met

1735
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 3: him a couple of times.

1736
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, But did I met him and his parents

1737
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 13: at Ohio State at the spring game a couple of

1738
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 13: years ago? Okay, yeah, So I go up there for

1739
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 13: spring game or one game a year.

1740
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 12: So is there that ohiose brotherhood or is it such

1741
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 12: a big pro you know, like us Rice Boys. Yeah,

1742
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 12: if you see someone from Rice, it is love already.

1743
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 13: No, it's definitely there, but you gotta be in Columbus,

1744
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 13: Ohio to get it. You know, a lot of the

1745
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,520
Speaker 13: guys still live in Columbus, and there's a huge fraternity

1746
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 13: there now when it comes to fan fare, and you know,

1747
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 13: we have alumni everywhere you go, so there's a huge

1748
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 13: alumni here Arizona.

1749
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 3: We have a huge alumni base. So we can get

1750
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 3: the Buckeyes wherever we are.

1751
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 12: Okay, Okay, I want to ask you about running backs

1752
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 12: because obviously that's the position you played, and there was

1753
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 12: a lot of news that's past offseason about running backs

1754
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 12: feeling like they're not getting their due with NFL contracts.

1755
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 12: Just want to get your take on that. Yeah, I

1756
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 12: definitely agree with the running backs. I think you have

1757
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 12: to have a phenomenal running back to be a good

1758
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 12: football team, a.

1759
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: Great a great team.

1760
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 13: I think you need a running back that can run

1761
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 13: the ball when you need to run the football in

1762
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 13: the playoffs, bad weather, whatever it may be. Sometimes you

1763
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 13: gotta line up and run the power eye. No matter

1764
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 13: everybody knows that. You still got to have a running

1765
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 13: back to go out there and get those jaws, move

1766
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 13: the chains, get those first downs, and those guys a

1767
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 13: lot of punishment, man, you know what I'm saying. So

1768
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 13: by the time they get out of their first contract

1769
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 13: and you're looking at three or four years now, everybody

1770
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 13: devaluing them at that point. So how do you really

1771
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 13: get out of that unless you get your money coming in.

1772
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 13: I don't know how they escape this. I don't know

1773
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 13: how they going to escape it. Okay, put you on

1774
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 13: the other side, Jonathan Wells. You're the general manager of

1775
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 13: said team. You have a running back that balled out

1776
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 13: for four years.

1777
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 12: You look at the data and typically when because it's

1778
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 12: the most violent position on the football field. Yes, so

1779
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 12: when running backs fall off, it's a steep falloff. Are

1780
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 12: you signing him to a long term, multi million dollar deal?

1781
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 12: Don't take your heart out of it. That's why I'm

1782
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 12: thinking about that.

1783
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 13: I mean, I'm treating him like every other position in

1784
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 13: the National Football League, which is what you get paid

1785
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 13: for what you did. You get paid for what you did.

1786
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 13: Everybody who gets their big contract does not turn out

1787
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 13: and go ball out. No, you pay me for the

1788
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 13: work that I've done on the field. So if I've

1789
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 13: been your heartbeat, your heart and soul for the last

1790
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 13: three to four years, you should pay me for the

1791
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 13: work that I've done like you do.

1792
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 3: Every other position. That's how I feel.

1793
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,759
Speaker 12: I think the only way around it, in my opinion,

1794
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 12: to try to satisfy both sides, the business side of

1795
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 12: it and the respect side of it. You signed these

1796
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 12: running backs to extensions earlier. You know what I'm saying,

1797
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 12: like after two years, because I mean, we're seeing it

1798
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 12: with Derrick Henry. I mean, Dereck Henry is I'm not

1799
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 12: even gonna say it was. I'd be too disrespectful, is

1800
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 12: a stone cold beast, but his production is dropped off

1801
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 12: because he's playing the most violent position in the game.

1802
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, you ran him five hundred times. Now you don't

1803
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 13: want to plan. Now you don't want to pay him.

1804
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 13: You ran them five hundred times a year. But the

1805
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 13: business side, the business side is you ran me five

1806
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 13: hundred times a year, pay me for my work.

1807
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 12: Okay, you're gonna hate this, but I want to get

1808
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 12: your take on it. If I'm a general manager, I'm

1809
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 12: running my running back five hundred times a year, getting

1810
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 12: all the production, and when his contracts up, I'll tag

1811
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 12: him once and then I'll say thanks for everything you did.

1812
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 12: Peace out. Hey, that sounds like a jerk move, but no, listen,

1813
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 12: that's the position that they're in exact.

1814
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 13: So until don't I don't know the answer for the guys,

1815
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 13: I really don't.

1816
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: I wish I did. I don't know the answer.

1817
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 13: Sounds like a lot of them are coming together and

1818
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 13: starting to talk about this as a group, so that

1819
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 13: could lead to something interesting down the line.

1820
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 12: So I don't know. What did the Texans have to

1821
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 12: do to keep this winning streak going? This week? With

1822
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 12: the Pittsburgh Steelers coming to town.

1823
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 3: Well.

1824
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 13: Number One, we're gonna have to avoid this injury bug

1825
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 13: that we've been having early in the year. Number Two,

1826
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 13: the guys that are in there, they've shown them, They've

1827
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 13: shown us and themselves that hey, they can go out

1828
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 13: there and win a football game on Sunday. So now

1829
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 13: that level of play that you brought to the game

1830
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 13: last week, you gotta up at two times this week.

1831
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 13: That's what you gotta do. This is your opportunity. You

1832
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 13: were a backup, you were at home some of y'all.

1833
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 13: You know whatever, Man, it's your time to shine. Man,

1834
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 13: step up, learn to playbook and play great football. That's

1835
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 13: what we need to be doing right now to keep winning.

1836
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 3: You good at this.

1837
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 12: Do you have a platform on social media where you're

1838
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 12: talking about games or YouTube?

1839
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 3: Where can they go to check you out?

1840
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 13: Y'all can check in with me man on Jay Wells

1841
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 13: Media group on Instagram. I just started going live after

1842
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 13: every Texan game that I've been doing this for like

1843
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 13: five years. After as soon as the Ohio State games

1844
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 13: go off, I go live on my Facebook. So I've

1845
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 13: been going crazy over there for years after every Buckeye game.

1846
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 13: This is my second time going live after the Texan

1847
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 13: game last week. So y'all go to my page, man,

1848
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 13: check that out. Like it, comment, let me know what

1849
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 13: you think about what I'm talking about. But I'm gonna

1850
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 13: be bringing some more live content to the table asap

1851
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 13: next time.

1852
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 3: We come here.

1853
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 12: You gotta go live on the OG podcast so they

1854
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 12: can check you out. And let's do with all these

1855
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 12: dimes that you're dropping. Congratulations, Hall of Fame, appreciate you

1856
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 12: both for your high school.

1857
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 3: And that's a big school even I've heard of that.

1858
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, well you know it's a small school, but we're

1859
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 13: big in status and talent.

1860
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Like name some of the guys that

1861
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 12: have gone through. Honestly, we don't have a bunch to NFL.

1862
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 12: We got Joe McKnight, who was the number one recruited

1863
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 12: in the world ever. Yeah, Joe McKnight running back, Chris Howard,

1864
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 12: my OG player for the demo Broncos.

1865
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, he went to USC exactly. So you know, we

1866
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 13: we've had some guys come out of there. Man, But

1867
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 13: we just we just played good team football, you know

1868
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 13: what I mean. So that's why I take more pride

1869
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 13: in it, because we don't have all this talent that

1870
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 13: people say we recruit and all of this. I'm like, bro,

1871
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 13: look at this starting offense right here. We ran through

1872
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 13: everybody who is where the recruit said, ain't nobody on

1873
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 13: the recruited. So you know, it's just a lot of

1874
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 13: haters out there in Louisiana when it comes to twenty

1875
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 13: eight championships and I get it. But all you gotta

1876
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 13: do is put that hand in the dirt and stop us.

1877
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,799
Speaker 13: We only run three plays. We run the vier. Huh

1878
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 13: we run three plays. Stop them.

1879
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 12: So your coach, who is about to be the winningst

1880
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 12: coach in the history of high school football, Yes, only

1881
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 12: runs three plays. Basically, yeah, we run the veer. We

1882
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 12: went might pass the ball four five times a game? Maybe, Yeah,

1883
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 12: straight down your throat, stop it.

1884
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: That's discipline right.

1885
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: There, discipline with the capitol, no doubt stands for n D.

1886
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: Thank you and Dy and of course thank you Jonathan Wells.

1887
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: Next up, it's time for one of my favorite segments

1888
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: that we do all year long, when Marv Vannimer catches

1889
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 2: up with the voice of the opposing squad this week.

1890
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: This week it's the Venera Ball Bill Hill Grove. That's

1891
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: next the Texans All Access. Yeah, sir, Welcome back to Wednesday,

1892
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,879
Speaker 2: Nation of Texans All Access from the Hundaie Texans Radio Studio.

1893
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 1: I am John Harris, your host, Football Southlund reporter.

1894
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: Looking forward to kind of getting through this week so

1895
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: we can get the Sunday. So excited to see this

1896
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 2: team play against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Only something about set

1897
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh on the other sideline. I've not been out of

1898
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 2: the field for a win over Pittsburgh fourteen on Monday Night.

1899
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: Blew that one.

1900
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: They had about a twenty three point run in the

1901
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 2: second quarter that put us to sleep, and then twenty

1902
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 2: seventeen was a disaster at the end of the season.

1903
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty was the COVID game. We actually had a

1904
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: lead but couldn't hold it in the fourth quarter. James

1905
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: Connor at a couple of touchdowns in the fourth quarter

1906
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 2: and beat it. So I've not been down here to

1907
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: beat the Steelers. In fact, last time to beat the

1908
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 2: Steelers was twenty eleven, twelve years ago. And who was

1909
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 2: a rookie on that team, Jj Watt. He will be recognized,

1910
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 2: recognized yes on Sunday as he goes into the Ring

1911
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: of Honor alongside founder Bob McNair and the goat Andre Johnson.

1912
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: So got that to look forward to you on Sunday.

1913
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: But I just want to see this team play against

1914
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: the Steelers. And of course JJ brother JJ's brother TJ.

1915
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: Watt.

1916
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of Steelers, man who knows them pretty well. He

1917
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 2: calls their game each and every week. It's Bill Hillgrove.

1918
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 2: Mark Vanny had a chance catch up with him. It's

1919
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: men behind the mics, Mark tell your way.

1920
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 4: Joining us now in Texans Radio. It's the voice of

1921
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 4: the Pittsburgh Steelers, longtime voice Bill Hillgrove.

1922
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 7: Bill, great to visit with you again.

1923
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: How's it going on, my friend, It's going very well.

1924
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 14: You know, we have the week shortened a little bit

1925
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 14: by an interesting plane flight from Vegas to Pittsburgh by

1926
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 14: way of Kansas City.

1927
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: Now, were you on the plane the whole time? During

1928
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 4: the delay, were you guys able to go to a hotel?

1929
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 4: I know it's easier said than done with an entire

1930
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 4: football operation.

1931
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 14: Here's this thing. First of all, there's no TSA, and

1932
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 14: the pilot said we're gonna sit on the airplane because

1933
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 14: we have food and bemvers. They don't in the terminal.

1934
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 14: So there was no way to get out of there

1935
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 14: and get back depending on when the plane from Atlanta

1936
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 14: got there. So we sat there on a dark, quiet

1937
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 14: airplane for probably more than five hours. But you know,

1938
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 14: Mike Tomlin dealt with it very well. Yesterday he says,

1939
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 14: non issue. He said, some people took naps, and other

1940
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 14: people took naps and worked, and other people worked. And

1941
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 14: so you know, they got started on the Texans even

1942
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 14: though they were stuck in Kansas City for all that time.

1943
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 7: Amazing, amazing that you had to divert that way.

1944
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 4: Well, tell me about the team so far as you

1945
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: had the shaky start, But back to back wins, how's

1946
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 4: it going overall?

1947
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 7: Bill?

1948
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 14: In your opinion, Yeah, it's I think the arrows up. Certainly,

1949
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 14: the defense has won the day in their two wins,

1950
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 14: and you know, everything is relative in the National Football League.

1951
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 14: San Francisco was superior in all phases, and that's one

1952
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 14: of those games you just kind of threw out. Cleveland

1953
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 14: has probably the second best defense in the league, maybe

1954
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 14: the best, who knows, and the stealers were able to

1955
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:26,839
Speaker 14: overcome that by pretty much trombling the offense of the Browns,

1956
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 14: and you know TJ. Watt and Alex high Smith, you know,

1957
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 14: they just they won the day in both the wins.

1958
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, So tell me about t J. Watt.

1959
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 4: Obviously we're very familiar with his brother. He'll go into

1960
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 4: the Ring of Honor this Sunday. How about TJ? Overall,

1961
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 4: you've been covering him since he got into the league.

1962
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 7: He is a menace.

1963
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 14: He's quick, he's relentless. He studies film. You know some

1964
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 14: people watch film, he studies it. And you know he

1965
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 14: knows which hand to go after on the quarterback depending

1966
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 14: where the ball is. He just you know, he's got

1967
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 14: the mental approach as well as great physical skills and

1968
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 14: like I say, you know, his motor is constant. So

1969
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 14: he is one special guy to watch.

1970
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 4: Well, give me the snapshot on Alex Highsmith because he's

1971
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 4: impossible not to notice as well.

1972
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 14: He came into his own probably starting last year, and

1973
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 14: then this year has taken a step forward to the

1974
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 14: point where you know, they rewarded him with a pretty

1975
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 14: hefty contract and so far he's living up to it.

1976
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 14: And I think, you know, this presents a quandary for

1977
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 14: opposing offenses. Which way do you go. Do you chip

1978
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 14: on TJ and let Alex destroy it or vice versa?

1979
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 14: And I think that's a very good thing. They have

1980
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 14: a lot of meetings at the quarterback, let's put it

1981
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 14: that way.

1982
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've noticed, And speaking of your quarterback Kenny Pickett,

1983
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 4: how is he progressing?

1984
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 7: It's year two.

1985
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 4: I know these things don't happen overnight, but what's the

1986
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 4: review of Kenny Pickett through three games in twenty twenty three.

1987
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 14: Having watched him at camp and also in the preseason,

1988
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 14: you could really see this step forward now against San

1989
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 14: Francisco and Cleveland. It wasn't there, but we saw signs

1990
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 14: of it coming back. As you know, the Steelers were

1991
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 14: able to outscore the Raiders and win that second game

1992
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 14: and tie for the top of the division. You know,

1993
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 14: like I said, everything in the league is relative, and

1994
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 14: I think the Steelers are handling a difficult part of

1995
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 14: their schedule I think pretty well. And like I say,

1996
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 14: the defense has carried them when the offense hasn't been there.

1997
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 14: But the offense is getting better. Their rushing was much

1998
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 14: more prominent against the Raiders, and again it may have

1999
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 14: been the Raiders defense. I don't know. You know, it's

2000
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 14: going to be interesting to see over the next couple

2001
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 14: of weeks how this plays out. The Steelers have to

2002
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 14: come to you guys and then have to host the

2003
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 14: Baltimore Ravens. So you know it's a work in progress,

2004
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 14: and let's see how develops.

2005
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 4: Legendary voice of the Steelers, Bill Hilgrove joining us. Bill,

2006
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 4: it blows my mind and I think everybody's that. In

2007
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl era, you've had three head coaches of

2008
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 4: the franchise. And what do you attribute that to the

2009
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,679
Speaker 4: stability of the Steelers. Obviously the performance has always been good,

2010
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 4: if not great. What do you think of it? Is

2011
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 4: it the family ownership? How do you see it?

2012
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 14: I think the Rooney style is what prevails. I remember

2013
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 14: when Mike Tomlin was a candidate and one of the

2014
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 14: former Steelers went to Dan Rooney and said, why don't

2015
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 14: you hire Joe Green. He's got coaching experience, He's a

2016
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 14: Steelers legend. And Dan said, let me tell you something.

2017
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 14: Let's look at Chuck Nole. A fine assistant, a sharp assistant,

2018
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 14: no baggage, no head coaching experience, snow things to learn

2019
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 14: or unlearn. We're going to hire assistants who are top

2020
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 14: notch and give them time to learn how to be

2021
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 14: head coaches. I think you've seen that in every single instance,

2022
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 14: from Noel to Cower, certainly to Tomlin, and I think

2023
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 14: he's going to probably put a gold jacket on one day.

2024
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 3: Bill.

2025
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 4: You worked with the legendary Myron Cope and he's credited

2026
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 4: with making the Terrible towel. And these towels are so

2027
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 4: familiar to people today, but a lot of people might

2028
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 4: not remember much about Myron Cope. What can you share

2029
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 4: with us about Myron and being in the booth with them.

2030
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 14: Well, the boss called him in and said, Myron, you know,

2031
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 14: we got to have more closer identity with Steelers fans,

2032
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 14: and we got to come up with a gimmick. And

2033
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 14: Cope said, I'm not a gimmick guy. And the boss said, well,

2034
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,839
Speaker 14: your contracts up in January. He goes, I'm all ears.

2035
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 14: He said, we have to have something to you know,

2036
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 14: that the fans can have to make them more a

2037
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 14: part of what's going on here. And Coke came up

2038
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 14: with the idea. He said, well, everybody has a towel,

2039
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 14: how about a black or gold towel and they can

2040
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 14: wave it and oh, okay, this is a good idea.

2041
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 14: And they came up with the idea of the Terrible

2042
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 14: towel and Cope himself, and he's the only person who

2043
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 14: could have sold this to the Steelers nation. He's the

2044
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 14: only person. He wasn't sure until lind Swan came out

2045
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 14: of the tunnel against I believe it was a Baltimore

2046
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 14: Colts in a playoff game in seventy five where you know,

2047
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 14: he was waving the towel and all of a sudden

2048
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 14: the crowd responded, and Cope said, well, I think we

2049
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 14: got something here. And interestingly, Myron, you know, gave a

2050
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 14: percentage to the Allegheny Valley School, which is where his

2051
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 14: son was was was it is still there, and now

2052
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 14: you know they've donated the towel to that school, and

2053
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 14: that school has realized over eight million dollars. So it

2054
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 14: was it was quite a thing. And you know, Twinch

2055
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 14: said it best. A lot of places have towels and

2056
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 14: they waved them. He said, yeah, they're for free, he said.

2057
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 14: Steeler fans pay ten bucks for their towel and most

2058
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 14: of that ten dollars goes to the autism school.

2059
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Bill Hillgrove, voice of the Steelers, joining us.

2060
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 4: You're a Pittsburgh native, so you grew up in the

2061
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 4: city as a sports fan, Give me your favorite non

2062
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 4: Steeler Pittsburgh athlete from when you were a kid, maybe

2063
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 4: or all time, however you see it.

2064
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 14: Okay, grew up a baseball fan, played it better than

2065
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 14: any sport, had a ball field near my house, spent

2066
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 14: the morning till night there, and honestly, Ralph Kiner was

2067
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 14: my boyhood hero. And I cried the day they traded

2068
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 14: him to the Cubs. Now, little did I know that

2069
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 14: his back was bad and that you know, the Steeler,

2070
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 14: this steel The Pirates probably stole some players from the

2071
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 14: Cubs as a result. I believe the Pirates got about

2072
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 14: five or six players in exchange for Kiner. And interestingly,

2073
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 14: he was traded during a doubleheader, so he wore a

2074
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 14: Pirate uniform the first game and then came out in

2075
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 14: that uniform and that's when I cried. But you know,

2076
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 14: he was my hero.

2077
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 7: Well.

2078
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 4: I love the setting there along the Three Rivers of

2079
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 4: the stadium of where the Pirates play, and I think

2080
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 4: it's just gorgeous. But when Three Rivers Stadium went away,

2081
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 4: was there sort of the sentimental oh no, it's going away,

2082
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 4: or oh yeah.

2083
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 7: We're ready for some new stuff. How did people see

2084
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 7: it at the time? Bill.

2085
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 14: I think there was a lot of sentiment attached to

2086
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 14: that place. Let's face it, four Super Bowls were won there.

2087
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 14: Probably the last of the dynasties, true dynasties in the

2088
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 14: NFL played there, and so there was a lot of

2089
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 14: sentiment that disappeared when they wrecked the place. But you know,

2090
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 14: time marches on, time waits for no one, and it

2091
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 14: was time for a new stadium, and the Steelers are

2092
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 14: very content with what was Heinzfield now Akroschure Stadium. You know,

2093
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 14: you got to live with the times, and that's exactly

2094
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 14: what the Steeler fans adjusted to.

2095
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 4: I know this is before your time broadcasting Steelers games,

2096
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 4: but this is Houston and we have a lot of

2097
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 4: people who still celebrate the AFC Championship game appearances of

2098
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 4: the Oilers against the Steelers in the late seventies, the

2099
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 4: Love You Blue era, as it's called. And I know

2100
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 4: Dan Pastorini and a bunch of those players, Robert Brazil,

2101
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 4: I just saw him yesterday at a Lombardi event. What

2102
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 4: can you share with us about the way they felt

2103
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 4: and thought of the Oilers back then, because it was

2104
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 4: a tremendous challenge. I know the Steelers beat them in

2105
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 4: those AFC championship games. But what can you tell me

2106
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: about those days?

2107
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 14: Well, one of the images that comes up in my

2108
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 14: head is Bradshaw taking that slide in the end zone

2109
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 14: on that really cold, freezing rain type day and you know,

2110
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 14: the spray kicked up and he scored a touchdown. And

2111
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 14: I remember after the game, I go into the locker

2112
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 14: room and I'm looking for Bradshaw and I said, where's Terry. Well,

2113
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 14: he's in He's in the sauna bath trying to warm up,

2114
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 14: and I think he's drinking whiskey and I went what

2115
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 14: And sure enough he comes out and he said, Bill,

2116
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 14: I'll do the interview, but if I slur any words,

2117
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 14: we're going to have to kill it. Well he did fine,

2118
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 14: and we put that on the air and it was

2119
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 14: all good, but it was a bone chilling day. And

2120
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 14: that's my memory of that. And also, you know bum

2121
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 14: Phillips saying one of these days, we're going to kick

2122
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 14: that door in. You know, he was one of my

2123
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 14: favorite characters, and I nick the Steelers respected the Oilers

2124
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 14: and maybe to a degree, feared that that was the

2125
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 14: team that could take away their legacy. But fortunately for

2126
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,799
Speaker 14: the Black and gold side of things that never happened.

2127
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 4: Finally, Bill, your thoughts on the Texans. I know we're

2128
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,839
Speaker 4: not completely a kickoff yet and game prep still underway,

2129
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 4: but what do you think from AFAR looking at the

2130
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 4: Houston Texans heading into this matchup?

2131
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 14: Amazing young team.

2132
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: C J.

2133
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 14: Stroud is mature beyond his years. You got the terminator

2134
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 14: on the defensive side of the ball.

2135
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 3: You know.

2136
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 14: CJ hasn't been sacked yet and is what sixth in

2137
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 14: the conference in pass efficiency rating. You know, I don't

2138
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 14: think they run the ball to the point where they

2139
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 14: want to. That may be one of the keys for

2140
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 14: this game on Sunday, because the Steelers did a much

2141
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 14: better job stopping they run against the Raiders than they

2142
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 14: did against Cleveland or certainly San Francisco. And when you

2143
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 14: look at that again, everything is relative. Before he got hurt,

2144
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 14: Nick Chubb might have been the best ball carrier in

2145
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 14: the league, and before that McCaffrey might be the best.

2146
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 14: You know. I mean, they face two great running backs

2147
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 14: and you know, mister Peters is a load. But I

2148
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 14: think that's going to be one of the keys to

2149
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 14: the game if they can put everything on CJ and

2150
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 14: make him one dimensional, then the advantage goes to TJ

2151
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 14: One and Alex Heismith. So I think it's going to

2152
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 14: be a.

2153
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 4: Fun game, all right, Bill, Well, we appreciate the time,

2154
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 4: as always looked forward to seeing you on Sunday, and

2155
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 4: we thank you so much for visiting today.

2156
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 14: More than welcome. Let's do it again now.

2157
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: That would be really cool if Mark and Bill were

2158
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: to talk again.

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Speaker 2: That means the Texans and Steelers were meeting in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That would be fun. But that's for down the road.

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Speaker 2: As Rocky said, one step, one punch, one round at

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Speaker 2: a time.

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Speaker 1: He told Creed that and.

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Speaker 2: It paid off, not against pretty Ricky Conlin, but definitely

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Speaker 2: against younger Drago in Creed two.

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Speaker 1: It definitely helped. So just keep that in mind.

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Speaker 2: Just one step, one punch, one round at a time,

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Speaker 2: one game on Sunday. You take it one at a time,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully this team will get better and get a

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Speaker 2: win at home. But it's been a while since they've

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Speaker 2: had a win, even longer since they, as Landry Locker

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Speaker 2: said today, even longer said they had a winning streak

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Speaker 2: when he had a couple in a row. In fact,

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Speaker 2: trying to think of when the win oh, I know,

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Speaker 2: and it was.

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Speaker 14: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: It was beating the Patriots on a Sunday, turning around

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Speaker 2: a few days later beating the Lions. Lost every game

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Speaker 2: the rest of that year, and then twenty one. They've

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Speaker 2: won seven games after that. So this would be a

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Speaker 2: good opportunity to kind of get a street going and

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Speaker 2: to establish home field advantage again.

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Speaker 1: So get in your seats and beat loud.

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Speaker 2: All right, got a little bit to do to finish

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Speaker 2: up this Wednesday Show's go around the NFL hit the

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Speaker 2: injury report as well.

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Speaker 1: Right here in Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: We got one follow segment this Wednesday edition of Texans

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Speaker 2: All Access as we get ready for the Steelers on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: JJ Watt Day on Sunday as well, It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a rocket in RG Stadium. Hopefully you guys are there

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Speaker 2: early and share in the festivities.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into this injury report for the Texans.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever seen a year where

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Speaker 2: I've seen so many hand injuries Josh Jones, Denzel Perrimid,

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Speaker 2: Tybrier Thomas, and of course Titus Howard before but those

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Speaker 2: three DMPs today at practice that's not great news because

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Speaker 2: Josh Jones was on the DNP list, as was Larry Tunseel.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds as if Laramie will not play this weekend.

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Speaker 2: More likely joshnap this weekend. I mean, that's two more

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Speaker 2: tackles down. You're already down. Charlie Heck and Titus.

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Speaker 1: Howard hey Man. Oh and by the way, t J.

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Speaker 1: Watt and Alex Heighsmith come to town. You.

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Speaker 2: Oh and by the way, George Fan was a limited participant,

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Speaker 2: but his was not injury related.

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Speaker 1: It was a rest day.

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Speaker 2: Was also a rest day for Robert Woods, for Tank

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Speaker 2: Dell and for Jimmy Ward. Limited participants John Grenard deal

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Speaker 2: with the knee, Shaq Griffin a foot shack, Mason ankle,

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Speaker 2: Jaen Petrie Chess was good to see. Jalen Back does

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Speaker 2: sound and he talked in the locker room. It sounds

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Speaker 2: like he is going to play this weekend now.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers just as banged up.

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Speaker 2: James Daniels, Groin Presley, Harvind Punter dealing with a hamstring,

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Speaker 2: Connor Heywood their kind of weapon X their their answer

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01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 2: to Andrew Beck dealing with the ankle. Chikwuma a court

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Speaker 2: for elbow and Patrick Peterson Isaac say Mole were resting

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Speaker 2: Alan Robinson ankle earlier, Larry Ogunjobi a foot, so both

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Speaker 2: teams banged up.

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Speaker 1: To a degree.

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Speaker 2: A little bit more for the Texans, I would think,

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Speaker 2: because you're talking about now potentially Josh Jones dealing with

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Speaker 2: that hand issue, so we'll see, but he was not

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Speaker 2: at practice today. A lot of hand issues, my goodness.

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Speaker 1: The injuries have piled up. But after this week eligible

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Speaker 1: to come back.

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Speaker 2: Meet Drew Scruggs, Cam Johnston and Titus Howard in a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Charlie Heck could could and is eligible

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Speaker 2: to come up p up, I believe, so that would help,

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Speaker 2: to say the least.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for the show tonight.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people to thank Nick Casserio, Tank Out,

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Speaker 2: Deep City, Mark Vandermir, Drew Doherty, Bill Hillgrove, Indie Kalu

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Speaker 2: and Jonathan Wells and all of you guys for listening.

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Speaker 1: All my guys back at six ten. Thank you. We'll

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Speaker 1: see them all everybody, and as always, go Texans