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I'm Kathleen 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: Hayes along with Pim Fox Well certainly one of the 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: biggest factors in the big, big drop in the stock 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: market the first quarter of six Team was the Chinese 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: economy slowing down, dropping below seven percent as it moves 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: from an export led to a consumer led economy. As 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: the stock market recovers, people try to place their bets 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: on investments for the rest of the year. What do 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: we really need to know about China? We're going to 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: find out in a new book coming up now, Pim. Yes, 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: and we are also going to get some business news 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: right now from Catherine Calgary in the Bloomberg newsroom. Thank you, Pam. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: The downward momentum continuing on Wall Street today, the smps 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: I founded headed for its worst two day drops ince 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: February amid disappointing ear injury reports Gilead Sciences is the 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: biggest drag in the benchmark index after its profit fell 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: short of analysts estimates and Apples declining for a seventh session. 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Richard Dobbs, director of research at McKinsey, says investors should 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: be prepared for lower equity and fixed income returns, but 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: the returns that we've seen in the last um the 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: last thirty years of both EXTE and BOMBS have been 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: on average around suit descent for ex Season four cent 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: performed more than the hundred year average has been a 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: great parent. We check the market every fifteen minutes throughout 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: the training day. Dow Industrial Average is down two hundred 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: It's down one hundred twenty five points. That's a loss 31 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: of seven tens of percents. Reading at seventeen thousand, seven 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: hundred five. SMP five foundered down nineteen points, nearly one percent, 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: trading at two thousand fifty six. Then naz dack is 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: down forty nine points, a loss of one percent, training 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: at forty seven fifty five. West I since intermediate curt 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Oil down twelve cents a barrel to spot rolled up 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: twenty six dollars. Announced at twelve thirty ten. Your Treasury 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: down three thirty seconds, held one point eight three percent 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: among today's top business stories. Valiant Pharmaceuticals International is trying 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: to put the worst of its problems behind it. Valiant 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: has announced a shake off of its board and filing 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: a long awaited annual report winner It promised significant changes 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: to its strategy and better oversight of its executives. It 44 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: blamed senior managers for problems that is center stock down 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: more than eight since last August, and then put the 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: company at risk of defaulting on its debt. It is 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: two thirty two on Wall Street, and that means it's 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: time to get an update on some of the others 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: where stories were following today On Bloomberg Radio, Catherine, thank 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: you from the Bloomberg News Room. I'm Mark Crumpton. The 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Obama administration is proposing new rules for people applying for jobs. 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Michael Barr with more on the story. Several employers 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: will look into a job applicants passed for any criminal 54 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: record or their credit history. The Obama administration says too 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: many job applicants are rejected on that alone, even before 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: they get a fair chance to compete for the position. 57 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: A new rule is being proposed that would prohibit federal 58 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: agencies from asking certain job applicants such questions until a 59 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: conditional offer of employment has been made. The rules would 60 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: not apply for positions dealing with national security, intelligence, and 61 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Michael Barr Bloomberg Radio. On Saturday, Americans can 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: safely drop off their old pills as part of a 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: semi annual take back day. The d A S Chuck 64 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Rosenberg says officials are trying to address a national crisis. 65 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: It's important for folks to know that this is completely anonymous. 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: We just want those medicines out of their cabinets so 67 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: other people down the line don't get hurt. Forty six 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: thousand Americans died of drug overdoses last year. Puerto Rico's 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: health secretary says the island has recorded its first ZEKEA 70 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: related death. A seventy year old man infected died from 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: a drop in blood platelets in February. The US territory 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: has seen more than six hundred ze cases, seventy three 73 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: of those involved pregnant women. Senator Chuck Schumer's pushing new 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: laws to help the state school districts test their water 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: for lead contamination. He says discoveries of high lead levels 76 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: and more than sixty samples show testing is needed. Global 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: News twenty four hours a day, powered by our twenty 78 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: four hundred journalists in more than one hundred fifty news 79 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: bureaus around the world. From the Bloomberg Newsroom. I'm Mark Crumpton, Catherine, 80 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: thank you, and now let's get a quick update of 81 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: the equity benchmarks down. Industrial averages down one thirty three 82 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: points at seventeen thousand, six hundred ninety seven. Smp F 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: I foundered down twenty points to two thousand fifty five. 84 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: The nastact is down fifty seven fifty five. And that's 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: a Bloomberg Business Flash BIS taking stock with Kathleen Hayes 86 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: and Pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio China taking a look 87 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: at China in the context of the country's economy. Also 88 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: China taking ups yesterday to impose greater control and limit 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: the influence of westerners on Chinese society, passing a new 90 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: law that restricts the work of foreign organizations and their 91 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: local partners, mainly through police surveillance. Here to help us 92 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: survey the Chinese economy and the country is Arthur Kroeberg. 93 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: He is the author of a new book entitled China's 94 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: Economy What Everyone Needs to Know, and he is a 95 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: founding partner of gav Cal dragon Omics. Arthur, thank you 96 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: very much for coming into the studio. First begin by 97 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: telling us about gave La gav Cal dragon Omics. Why 98 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: is it called dragon omics? Dragonomics is a company that 99 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: I found in Beijing in two thousand and two to 100 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: provide economic information about China too, um, institutional investors, companies, governments, 101 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: anyone who's interested in what's going on there. Uh. And 102 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: you know dragon stands for China and anomics is economics, 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: and so that's what it's all about. So it's a 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: very interesting time in China's politics and its culture in 105 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: a society so many challenges they face, and the markets 106 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: have made so much of this slowdown. You know, us 107 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: be ten eleven percent now below seven and some would 108 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: say it's much weaker, maybe three and a half percent, 109 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: because the Chinese measurements aren't necessarily accurate. But is it 110 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: partly that their economy is so much bigger and more 111 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: mature that that early stage double digit growth could never 112 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: happen now, and that if you put it in more perspective, 113 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: you'd say Yeah, it's an economy with challenges like any 114 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: other economy, but the growth rate is fairly healthy. Yeah, 115 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: that's basically right. And I just like to say, I mean, 116 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of commentary that you can't believe the 117 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Chinese numbers and the actual growth rate is much lower 118 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: than they report, and and basically I think you should 119 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: ignore those kinds of statements. There definitely some issues with 120 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Chinese statistics, uh. And there's a bit of a marchin 121 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: of air on either side. But the people kind of 122 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: make those statements ignore the fact that China is now 123 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: a two track economy. There's an old economy it's related 124 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: to investment in capital spending and so forth, and that's 125 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: in some serious trouble uh. And it's going very slowly, 126 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: but there's a new economy of consumer spending and services 127 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: that's going incredibly rapidly, is very vibrant. And yeah, I 128 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: think your basic point is correct that this is a 129 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: natural transition. China group for about thirty thirty five years 130 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: at a very high rate building all the infrastructure for 131 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: modern economy, and every country that's gone through that, Japan, 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: South Korea, Taiwan and for that, the European countries. Uh, 133 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: you get to the end of that stage, and then 134 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: you have to have an economy that's built on consumer 135 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: spending services efficiency, and the natural growth rate is a 136 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: lot slower. So a lot of the slowdown that we're 137 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: seeing in China is related to that transition. The role 138 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: of the Communist Party and particularly the Organization Department. Tell 139 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: people about this, well, Okay, so China is kind of 140 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: a weird Malcolm. It's a very dynamic economy that many 141 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: elements of it are highly capitalist and highly competitive and 142 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: almost wild West in their nature. Uh. And it's married 143 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: to a political system that's still highly leninist and controlled 144 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: and authoritarian and centralized and in a lot of ways 145 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: hasn't changed that much in the last twenty years. Uh. 146 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: And the Communist Party obviously is at the center of that. 147 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: And one of the mechanisms that they use to uh 148 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: control the country is that they their their personnel department, 149 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: their human resources department points not only all the top 150 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: government officials, but the heads of all the main media organizations, 151 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: the heads of all the university's think tanks, all the 152 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: top judges, etcetera. It's very comprehensive, um. And you could think, well, 153 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: This is a really bad way of running things to 154 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: have one central HR department for a country at one 155 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: point four billion people. But they've actually managed it pretty 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: well because, um, they have a system of bring people 157 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: up based on kind of objective criteria, rotating through jobs 158 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: and making sure that people don't stay around in any 159 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: one job for too long. So as these things go, 160 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty effective mechanism. Arthur Carl Walter was 161 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: on our show recently. He's the former CEO CEO of 162 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: JP Morgan in Chinese, been a long time there. You 163 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: mentioned tensions rising in China now and UH President gen 164 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Ping being reluctant to trim back the state role role 165 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: and let markets rule. Carl does the stuff further, he 166 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: said that there's a sense that there's something more akin 167 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: to how the cult of Mao and how that rule was, 168 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: that that that regime was structured and how it ran 169 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: things seems to be some of that seems we have 170 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: possibly cropping back in the j pain. What do you think? Well, 171 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: first have to say, Carl's an old friend of mine 172 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: and I have enormous respect for his knowledge and judgment. Um, 173 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: I have a slightly different take on that where I 174 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: would disagree. I don't think the Chijing pain is the 175 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: reincarnation of now. It's a very different country. It's a 176 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 1: very different system. The bureaucracy is much more powerful UH, 177 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: and he is using a few maur As tactics, but 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: fundamentally UH is a much more sort of organizationally oriented, 179 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: sort of sort of leader UH. I think where Karl 180 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: is on the mark, and this would be my big 181 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: concern too, is that China needs to make this transition 182 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: to a more consumer and service oriented economy. What that 183 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: means is that the state needs to take a step back. 184 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't need to go away necessarily, but he needs 185 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: to step back. It needs to give more space for 186 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: market forces in the private sector. And what we've seen 187 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: in China is a mixture. We've seen some policies that 188 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: seem to move in that direction, and then we've seen 189 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: some real reluctance to let market forces fully play out. 190 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: So there's I think I think there is a real 191 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: risk that UH there will be some hiccups on the 192 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: way to China's transition to a consumer led economy. Arthur Krobert, 193 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: You'll have to follow all these developments with us. Check 194 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: out his new book China's economy, but everyone needs to know. 195 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: This is a little brig. Radio Bloomertaking Stock is brought 196 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: to by Bentley University. 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