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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're all

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Speaker 1: Hoopers and Hotties.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, April thirtieth, and on today's show, we're going

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Speaker 1: to continue introducing you to some of the other fantastic

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Speaker 1: podcasts on the iHeart Women's Sports Network. Today's new frontier

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Speaker 1: is Full Circle with Lexi Brown and Mariah Rose. We

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Speaker 1: mentioned their pod back in January as they got ready

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Speaker 1: to launch. You heard my live show with Lexi at

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Speaker 1: south By Southwest on our March eleventh episode, and she

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Speaker 1: and I got to hang out again at the Final four.

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Speaker 1: But we wanted to celebrate their show this week by

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Speaker 1: bringing you a full episode here in our feed.

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Speaker 3: Lexi is a.

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Speaker 1: WNBA champ and hooper for the league Seattle Storm, and

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Speaker 1: Mariah is the sports media personality behind Hoops for Hotties,

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Speaker 1: aimed at teaching the girls, gays days, and substraight guys

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Speaker 1: too about sports. To get you prepped, Mariah was kind

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Speaker 1: enough to send us a brief rundown of what their

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Speaker 1: show is all about.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen.

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Speaker 4: Tired of men dominating the conversation around women's sports, Well

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Speaker 4: so are we. That's why I'm Mariah Rose, Sports Media

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Speaker 4: personality and WNBA star Lexi Brown have teamed up for

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Speaker 4: Full Circle, a show dedicated to all things women's basketball.

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Speaker 4: After growing up surrounded by men talking about women's hoops,

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Speaker 4: me and Lexi are flipping the script. We're here to

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Speaker 4: deliver the latest news, bold takes, and behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: buzz from the women's basketball world, no filter, all facts.

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Speaker 1: Today you'll hear Full Circles April twenty third episode, and

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Speaker 1: Lexi gave us a little preview of what to expect.

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Speaker 2: In this week's episode.

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Speaker 5: We are talking about my first impressions of being in Seattle,

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Speaker 5: talking about the shift of coaching culture in the WNBA,

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Speaker 5: and we're going to give y'all a very analytical, stat

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Speaker 5: based preview of what we'd consider the Eastern Conference in

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Speaker 5: the WNBA. We hope that you guys enjoy this episode,

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Speaker 5: like and subscribe and tune into Full Circle podcast.

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Speaker 3: All right, slices.

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Speaker 1: We're stoked to shine some light on Full Circle, and

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Speaker 1: we hope you're excited to listen that episode. But Lexi

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Speaker 1: and Mariah is coming up right after this.

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Speaker 4: Full Circle is an iheartwoman's sports production and partner with

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Speaker 4: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on

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Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Hi, everybody from Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Seattle, guys, welcome to another episode of Bee

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Speaker 2: Full Circle Podcast. I'm Lexi Brown. I'm here with my girl,

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Speaker 2: Mariah Rose. How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm so good, Lexi? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: The vibes are just very immaculate right now. I feel

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Speaker 5: it through the screen. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: How is your weekend?

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Speaker 5: Like? What?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 4: I think I'm just I think I'm just happy that

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Speaker 4: I had a weekend at home because I have been

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, but for a day.

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Speaker 4: I got home on Friday, so technically I was in

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Speaker 4: Atlanta for the weekend.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and it was the last time you spent a

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Speaker 5: whole weekend in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Girl, I don't even know.

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Speaker 4: But but I'm happy because I feel like I got

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Speaker 4: to I'm cleaning my apartment, I'm getting my life together.

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Speaker 4: I'm a person again. How are you settling in in Seattle?

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Speaker 2: Well, I just got here last night, and so far,

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Speaker 5: It's energy here is amazing, Like it's actually probably the

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Speaker 5: best first twenty four hours I've had in any city

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Speaker 5: I've played in. Honestly, like the communication is on point.

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Speaker 5: They've picked me up at the airport. They didn't have

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Speaker 5: me waiting. All my stuff in my apartment was just

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Speaker 2: Today. I get to go to the facility tomorrow, so.

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Speaker 5: I actually might go tonight and go just take it

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Speaker 5: which like the fact that I can do that now,

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Speaker 5: And you think about it, and it's just like we

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Speaker 5: Because I posted a TikTok yesterday. Actually I was gonna

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Speaker 5: like literally posted like the same exact video like a

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Speaker 5: and I commented last night, I said, God, don't even

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Speaker 5: see that you posted this. That's so funny that like

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Speaker 5: collectively were all feeling the same way about demanding more

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Speaker 5: and if your team just can't provide it for you,

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Speaker 5: yor just send you to a team that will. So

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Speaker 5: thank you La Sparks for sending me somewhere that will

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Speaker 5: take care of me. But it should be the norm

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Speaker 5: across the board that everybody should have facilities. And I

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Speaker 5: think we're getting there, slowly but surely, but we're getting there.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of TikTok, have you been reading any of the

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Speaker 5: comments of the last video I posted of us talking

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Speaker 5: about the international players?

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Speaker 3: Would like to know what they're saying about us, Lexi.

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Speaker 2: It's not even bad about us.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like, first thing about social media since

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Speaker 5: I've been off X, like everything has just been rainbows,

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Speaker 2: We'll start there.

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Speaker 5: So when I bring these conversations to TikTok and I'm

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Speaker 5: just reading through the comments and people argue with each other,

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Speaker 5: I want everyone to collectively take a deep breath and

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Speaker 5: stop arguing so much under other people's posts. It's getting

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Speaker 5: the weirdest comments I saw was that the WNBA is

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Speaker 5: I was like, this has nothing to do with race whatsoever,

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Speaker 5: people can't really pick a side. But I'm like, just

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Speaker 5: because the rule gets changed doesn't mean people have to

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Speaker 2: We were just saying that the option should be there.

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Speaker 5: But I just like, I was reading the comments and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, are you guys even understanding what we're trying

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Speaker 5: to say. And then they're like, well, they put a

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's the solution either, but it's it's

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Speaker 5: just like I'm always shocked at the lack of comprehension.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing them.

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Speaker 4: I had to go look it up, and the main

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Speaker 4: And like you said, I think they're misunderstanding the whole

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Speaker 4: just that the option should be there as far as

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Speaker 4: that is occurring overseas in order for us to be

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Speaker 4: because I think people forget that that part still exists.

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Speaker 4: I know about an IL, and I know that that's

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Speaker 4: an option, and I know that it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: We've just had a million times it makes more sense

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Speaker 3: for them to stay longer.

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Speaker 4: But basketball wise, and I think Sedona made us talk

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Speaker 3: Might be riskier. Like that makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 5: It's actually crazy how much of the conversation surrounding college

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Speaker 5: and analytic talk, which is what we're going to do

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Speaker 5: into more like actual basketball talk.

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Speaker 2: Like speaking of nil and transferring.

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Speaker 5: I think Jeniah Baker just committed to Tennessee. I saw

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Speaker 5: that today, which again further validates our point that everybody

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Speaker 5: going to the SEC. I'm very nervous for the ACC

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Speaker 2: I'm super concerned about the ACC.

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Speaker 5: I think the Big Ten will be okay, the Big twelve,

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Speaker 5: they'll have a few, but as far as the ACC, like,

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Speaker 5: I'm just I don't know what they're gonna do. But

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Speaker 5: like do I don't know much about like how the

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Speaker 2: That stuff works.

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Speaker 5: But it's just like y'all got to find some money somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Find it.

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Speaker 5: I watched an interview with Coach Yo on Dejah Kelly's podcast.

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Speaker 5: She dropped a clip today and Coach Yo's is now

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Speaker 5: saying that the first thing she's asking her players is.

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Speaker 2: How much money do you want? Dang.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe this, and I know it's so it's

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Speaker 5: now I'm so beyond conflicted with this nil stuff now,

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Speaker 5: because how much money do you want? Like you average

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Speaker 2: Like what do we?

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Speaker 5: And I talked about it with Eric Wheeler when I

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Speaker 5: to like earn anything, battle through adversity, figure your shit out, Like,

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Speaker 5: unless you really are in a horrible situation at your school,

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Speaker 5: like you should, you should be encouraged and motivated enough

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Speaker 5: Like it's getting ridiculous at this point. And now you

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Speaker 4: It's feeling very unserious, and like you said about I

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Speaker 4: As a fan of basketball, we need to start having

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Speaker 5: So you can't even like build on anything that you

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Speaker 2: And that's what people love about women's sports.

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Speaker 5: And yes, make money, I love it whatever, but like

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Speaker 4: If that makes sense, I think the solution to this

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Speaker 4: And it's not just basketball either, it's all women's sports

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Speaker 2: I mean, and it is about to.

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Speaker 5: But the thing about it is you don't get paid

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Speaker 5: want to do. Yes, they're probably a good amount of

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Speaker 5: and that's fine, but like the ones that do, like

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Speaker 2: It's about putting the ball in the basket.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it's marketable if you have followers, dah da dah,

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Speaker 5: So I just don't want that to happen because I

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Speaker 2: So I just hope that we don't lose.

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Speaker 5: That because it is it is a very violent jump

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Speaker 5: I mean, I wish them the best. I do sometimes

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Speaker 2: With all of this movie.

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Speaker 4: I feel bad for coaches in sports in general. Recently,

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Speaker 4: I feel like coaches don't at least like a high

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Speaker 4: they can tell you what to do, they say run,

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Speaker 5: And NBA coaches are fire of them grateful for playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I personally never ever wanted to be a coach in

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Speaker 5: and like everybody got a trainer.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's a trainer.

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Speaker 5: You have access to all these videos and analytics and stuff.

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Speaker 2: You can really do like almost anything. You're at this point.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying now that coaching is going to transition

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Speaker 2: They don't know what to do with any of that.

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Speaker 5: Like all they want to do is scream at us

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Speaker 2: Adults and like as equals.

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Speaker 5: Like that's really the main thing is, like these leagues

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Speaker 5: So I'm like slowly seeing like these older coaches like

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Speaker 2: It's very interesting to me.

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Speaker 5: I've never had a former coach, as I mean a

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Speaker 5: I'm really excited about that because I'm such a nerd

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Speaker 2: Like, yes, I might know a little bit more than you,

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Speaker 5: I respect you, but respect but respect me back, and

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Speaker 5: always want to learn, but.

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Speaker 2: They come, be a sponge. Be a sponge.

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Speaker 5: Oh I'm trying to be a sponge, and then you

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's a noticeable difference when the players

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's a case by case basis with

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Speaker 4: But it's very obvious when you have a situation where

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Speaker 4: kind of doing their own thing, and it's obvious that

443
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 4: they're butting heads with what they're supposed to be doing

444
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 4: on the court and a team where everybody's buying in

445
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 4: because it's all about culture in a locker room and

446
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: on the court, right. So I don't know if that

447
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: has to do with your star player. If your star

448
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 4: player doesn't want to listen to the coach and isn't

449
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 4: abiding by what the coach is doing, then nobody really

450
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 4: is able to If the coach nobody really takes them seriously,

451
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 4: nobody's really going to listen.

452
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 3: So I feel like that's a mess.

453
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 4: I was curious for you as far as a player,

454
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 4: because for me as a fan, a lot of times

455
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 4: when I see a coach getting fired or whatever, usually

456
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 4: the first thing that comes to mind for me is

457
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 4: the coach is kind of being scapegoaded.

458
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 3: They're not actually the.

459
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 4: One playing once, Like, they can tell you what to

460
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 4: do all they want, but they're not out there playing.

461
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 4: But I'm curious, from a spectator's standpoint, what role does

462
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: a coach play in the team's success or lack they're are?

463
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 4: How important do you feel like the coach really is.

464
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 5: I think for me, since I've been on like so

465
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 5: many different teams with so many different dynamics. Like I'll

466
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 5: actually like give like full blown examples. So when I

467
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 5: was in Connecticut, you know, I kind of just wasn't

468
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 5: like involved at all with like anything that was going on.

469
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 5: Like I just like would show up to practice and leave,

470
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 5: Like I just I literally was like I don't know

471
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 5: what's going on here. And then you fast forward to

472
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 5: the season before they made the coaching change. Like remember

473
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 5: in the finals or the playoffs when Kurt was in

474
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 5: the huddle and he was like, I'm gonna lose my

475
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 5: job if you guys don't make layups, like and that

476
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 5: clip like went viral because they got it on the mic.

477
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 5: Then he was just like I'm gonna get fired because

478
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: y'all can't make layups. And it's like at that moment,

479
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 5: like everybody knew like he had lost the team. Like

480
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 5: I agree with you, like you can tell when a

481
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 5: team is like off the coach and like like a mutiny,

482
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 5: damn near. And that's kind of what happened in Connecticut

483
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 5: and that's why he got fired. But like I was

484
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 5: there at the very beginning of that, and it was

485
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 5: just like so I wasn't necessarily surprised when that happened

486
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 5: in Connecticut, and then I'll talk about when I was

487
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 5: in Chicago.

488
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: You have a team full of Vets ready to win.

489
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 5: You know, the season didn't really start off very well

490
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 5: for us at that time.

491
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 2: I wasn't on the team at that rough patch.

492
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 5: But you have two players, brilliant players and Cannas Parker

493
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 5: and Courtney vanderslout right, So their minds are always turning,

494
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 5: They're always having conversations, they're always talking to coach, They're

495
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 5: always talking to each other, they're always talking to us.

496
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 5: So that there was like a power struggle there for

497
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 5: a little bit of like, okay, sloopmin with Chicago for

498
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 5: X min years. Candace just got to Chicago. Everyone is

499
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 5: expecting a championship, and then you have the coach balancing

500
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 5: to the big Hall of famers, So that dynamic takes time.

501
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 5: And then you know, we got to the playoffs and

502
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 5: I don't want to say James like relinquished his power

503
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 5: to us, like the team, I mean, but he kind

504
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 5: of was like, all right, like we made it to

505
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 5: the playoffs barely. I'm gonna let y'all rock and we

506
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 5: gonna we're gonna roll with what y'all want. To do. Basically,

507
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: we have like this meeting and it was like a

508
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 5: great meeting, but like basically he was just like, like,

509
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 5: we can win, but we gotta like we got to

510
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 5: meet in the middle. But it was more like he

511
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 5: met us like the majority of the way, and then

512
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 5: we met him a little bit and then we ended

513
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 5: up winning. So really it's like, how good of a

514
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 5: relationship do your star players? How with your coaches and

515
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 5: your coach's coaching staff, and that it matters like and

516
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 5: then you're basically people say like your point guard is

517
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 5: the extension of your coach, which yeah, that's true, but

518
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 5: I also think like your superstar is also an extension

519
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 5: of your coach. So you have to be able to

520
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 5: communicate things that maybe they don't know how to communicate things,

521
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: maybe they don't feel like they need to communicate. Some

522
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 5: conversations need to be had amongst teammates privately or in

523
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 5: front of everybody, whatever you want to do. But those

524
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 5: conversations in that relationship I think is the biggest part

525
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 5: of building a successful team and building a winning culture,

526
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 5: Which is why I couldn't figure my shit out in

527
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: LA because every year it was a new coach that

528
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 5: I was trying to build a relationship with, and then

529
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 5: a whole new group of players that I was trying

530
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 5: to build a relationship with, and that's not like the

531
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 5: recipe to be successful. So as much as I would

532
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 5: never want to be a coach, I respect the hell

533
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: out of them.

534
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: I think they're necessary to win games.

535
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 5: Sometimes you're like, oh, this team is like coaching themselves,

536
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 5: but like, yeah, like, but a good coach puts a

537
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: team in a situation to be able to just like

538
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 5: run on autopilot.

539
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: So I do think coaches are important.

540
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 5: I'm very excited to be coached by a former player

541
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 5: because we just think differently.

542
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: And some of these coaches like, oh, yeah I played,

543
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: who know, No, you did it. I don't believe you.

544
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: I don't believe in it. Coaches that were like yeah

545
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: when I was, you know, and I know that was

546
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: like a thousand years ago. I don't want to hear it.

547
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 4: I'd like what you said about star players and coaches

548
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: because they are an extension of the coach, because they

549
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: are they set the culture in the locker room when

550
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 4: the coaches around, when the coaches around, Really, I feel like,

551
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 4: especially younger players are looking to the star player more

552
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: than they're looking at a coach. And I feel like

553
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 4: organizations they see their star players as anchors and their franchises,

554
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 4: and they see coaches as disposedball. Like you talked about

555
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 4: your situation in LA, I feel like, what's it like

556
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 4: when y'all know the coaches about to get fired?

557
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 5: Man?

558
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 3: What's that Like's that like?

559
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: Listen? I will tell another story about LA.

560
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 5: So my first year in LA, when Derek Fisher was

561
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 5: still the coach, I forgot where we were, but we

562
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 5: had just lost a game that we probably shouldn't have lost.

563
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 5: And it's just not funny, because coaches getting fired is

564
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 5: not funny, guys. But it's just like the way that

565
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 5: professional sports just operates at times is very unserious and

566
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 5: if any other I mean, I feel like maybe some

567
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 5: people get like blindsided when they get fired.

568
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: From their jobs or whatever. But like the way, the time,

569
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: the energy.

570
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 5: The relationships you have to build in these professional sports

571
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 5: and the way that they're just like get out is

572
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: so crazy to me.

573
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: So I think we end up we lost the game.

574
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: I can't remember if we were on the road or not,

575
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 5: but we're in the locker room dead silent fish walks

576
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 5: in doesn't say anything, just brings us in for the

577
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 5: huddle and just like walks out of the locker room.

578
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: And that was it. And then I was like the

579
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: last time we.

580
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 4: Saw it, so he there was no I'm not coming back.

581
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: It just just break.

582
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: He just walked in, he said bring it in. He

583
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 5: was like, this works, and then left and then boom fired.

584
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: That's so awkward.

585
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 4: And then after your coach is fired and they bring

586
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: in an interim or whatever.

587
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 5: So the assistant just moves up to place. And then

588
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 5: at that point you're just kind of like that, like

589
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 5: no one ever talks about that coaching time period because

590
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 5: you're in such an awkward situation and the team is

591
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 5: in such an awkward situation, like someone just lost their

592
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 5: job and now you're just like filling in for them,

593
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: Like do you implement your own offense defense? Like how

594
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 5: much time of the season is left? Like am I

595
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 5: interviewing for the head coaching job right now? Or is

596
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 5: this just temporary? So do I want to show all

597
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 5: my cards just for them to not keep me anyway,

598
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: which is what happened in LA.

599
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: They ended up not keeping.

600
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 5: Fred as our head coach after he actually did a

601
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 5: pretty good job considering all the nonsense we were dealing

602
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 5: with that season. But it's like that's like a very

603
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 5: unspoken about process for coaching staffs and players. It's like, Okay,

604
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 5: your head coach just got fired, but like, okay, now

605
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 5: you got to listen to this new person, and god forbid,

606
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 5: you don't have a good relationship.

607
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: With that assistant coach.

608
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 5: Thankfully I did, but there was some players on the

609
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 5: team that like didn't.

610
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: Then now they're in Yeah.

611
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 4: I'm wondering that right now watching the NBA playoffs are

612
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: on right now and thinking about Denver and Memphis. Your

613
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: coaches just got fired and you're in the most important

614
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 4: part of the season, Like yeah, I feel like that's

615
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: really important.

616
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 5: It's crazy, and then you just have to like go

617
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: about per usual, be the professional that you are the

618
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 5: whole time. You really still like because nobody ever comes

619
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: in and sits the team down and lays out, Okay,

620
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: this is what he was doing right, or this is

621
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 5: what she was doing right, this is what she or

622
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 5: he was doing wrong, and this is what y'all are

623
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 5: doing right, what y'all are doing wrong. There's no conversation

624
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 5: about anything.

625
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: You just have to move on. At least not in

626
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: my experiences.

627
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: That could be different for other players' experiences, but I

628
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 5: just feel like it would benefit to have some type

629
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 5: of meeting or conversation to lay out what led to

630
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: this decision instead of just being like, this is the

631
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 5: decision we made and just get over y'all selves. So

632
00:28:54,720 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 5: it's always extremely interesting that power struggle of coaching in

633
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 5: front offices, which is why I also think that leagues

634
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 5: like athletes are limited and unrivaled everyone loves so much

635
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 5: because that that dynamic is gone, Like you don't deal

636
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 5: with that at all. Like athletes unlimited, we don't even

637
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: have coaches. We don't have coaches at all. We have

638
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: facilitators who are like many coaches, but there's no coach's

639
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: favorite coaches yelling at you.

640
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: We don't got a GM.

641
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 5: Play this person, don't play that personal were trying to

642
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 5: trade this person? Like there's none of that going on.

643
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 5: Athletesulimited unrivaled is a little bit different because they do

644
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 5: have coaches, but like, you're not gonna.

645
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: Get fired in the middle of the unrivaled season.

646
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: There's no GM, like your team is what it is,

647
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: and like the environment is just completely different. So I

648
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 5: feel like that is also why fans and players have

649
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 5: found like more enjoyment in the off season leagues because

650
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 5: that whole political negative side of bowing down to the

651
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 5: front office has been removed. And I hope like the

652
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: w NBA is watching these two leagues and they're seeing

653
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 5: like how the players are interacting with each other and

654
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: how the level of play is elevated. Like I think

655
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 5: there is a direct correlation between like happiness and playing well,

656
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: like you know, like look good, play good. It's like,

657
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 5: so I'm hoping like we're going to implement, you know,

658
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: a less toxic environment in professional sports, but like I

659
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: don't know, I don't know if that's possible with the

660
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: people in charge unfortunately, because they don't understand what it's

661
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 5: like to be in these situations.

662
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 4: Why do you feel like there was so much turnaround

663
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: with coaching last season in the W Yes.

664
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 5: Well, I think that there's more eyes, which led to

665
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: like more criticisms, which I remember literally telling our GM

666
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: and coach last season to get off Twitter because I

667
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 5: could tell that they was looking on it. Like I

668
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: was like, y'all need to get off the internet, like enough,

669
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 5: because I remember Kurt like got himself in trouble tweeting

670
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 5: about some like you don't oh these.

671
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: People on an explanation, You're the coach.

672
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 5: So it was like we would wake I would wake

673
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 5: up and obviously a tweet so look good. He tweeted,

674
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: like why are you tweeting responding to what people are

675
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: saying online? And like that's something that I had to

676
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: learn myself, and like it was like I was like funny,

677
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: ha ha, like get off Twitter, But I like Loki

678
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 5: was dead ass serious, because why are y'all doing that,

679
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 5: Like y'all are in the positions y'all are in because

680
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 5: y'all are qualified and y'all earned it, and that's what

681
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 5: y'all want to do. Like why are you looking at

682
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: what anybody is saying on the internet.

683
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: So I think that had a huge part of it.

684
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: It's like you had more eyes.

685
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: So people were like very critical of what was going on.

686
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 5: And I think everyone is just kind of like gearing

687
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: up for this new era of WNBA and you have

688
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: to put the right people in the right places. You know,

689
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: these teams, like I said, drafting intentionally. Free agency was

690
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: very intentional. So I think they were just putting the

691
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: right coaches and the right situations, and then gearing up

692
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 5: for potential changes, like we're talking about the more European

693
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 5: players possibly coming over a lockout. Hopefully not, but like,

694
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 5: there's just a lot of moving pieces, and I think

695
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 5: the best time to make like massive changes was right now.

696
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: I remember being in the league eight years now.

697
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 5: It's been like a carousel of the same coaches bouncing

698
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 5: around from this team to this team. And this team

699
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 5: you have a losing season, Oh, who cares, We're gonna

700
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: hire you over here.

701
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: Oh your whole team turned against you.

702
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: Cool, we're gonna hire you and Steve, you can do

703
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 5: something different on this team. So it's been nice to

704
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 5: see new people being hired, especially from like the NBA side.

705
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: I love that some college coaches have come up, because

706
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 5: you know, everyone is like up in arms that Don

707
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: Staley won't leave South Carolina, But I'm like, but there's

708
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 5: other coaches that will leave their colleges to come be

709
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 5: in the w So I'm happy that a few of

710
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: those coaches have come to coach in the WNBA. So

711
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: I'm actually really excited about this season because there's so

712
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 5: much change, Like every team is different except for the

713
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: Minnesota Links.

714
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to go team, which makes sense.

715
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: You know how I feel about going to the finals

716
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: and changing your whole team up because you lost.

717
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: I know, I hate that.

718
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 4: What are you looking forward to the most? And I'm

719
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: curious because I know if it were me. I know

720
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: when I was in high school the last time I

721
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: was an athlete, every season I had a game circle.

722
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: You got any game circle?

723
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: You know what game I have circled? Riah, do you

724
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: already know?

725
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: But what I did find out yesterday is we have

726
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 5: a close scrimmage in La early May, so I can

727
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 5: get all that bad you do out in private.

728
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: So when we have the real game, it'll be.

729
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: All just fun.

730
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be all shits and gigs.

731
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 5: Actually, this is how I wanted to kind of break

732
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 5: down the W season these next two episodes. This episode,

733
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: I want to talk about the East Conference teams, even

734
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: though we technically don't have conferences anymore, but this is

735
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 5: the easiest way to break them up, and then next

736
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: week we can get into the West.

737
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: Is that cool?

738
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm excited?

739
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

740
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, in the Eastern Conference. If you guys

741
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 5: don't know, let's give the listeners a little history lesson.

742
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: There was a time where the WNBA operated Eastern and

743
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 5: Western Conference in playoffs.

744
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that used to be a thing.

745
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: I think that the Western Conference became too dominant, I

746
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: want to say, which is kind of what we're seeing

747
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 5: in the NBA. I wonder if they'll ever pivot out

748
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: of the Eastern versus Western and just go one through.

749
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: They copy y'all with the Ncson Tournament too.

750
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 5: So okay, back to the WNBA and the Eastern Conference.

751
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 5: We have the liberty, the fever, the dream, the sun,

752
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 5: the sky, and the mystics. Okay, So this is how

753
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 5: we're going to have this conversation. We're going to go

754
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 5: through if they had a coaching change or not, any

755
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: of their major personnel changes, not including the rookies. Okay,

756
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 5: I'm not really gonna we talked about the rookies last week.

757
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't really know enough about them all yet.

758
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 5: So we're going to acknowledge that they got rookies, but

759
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: we're going to talk more about their returners, cool potential

760
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 5: play style changes, and then as far as my basketball

761
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: nerds like me, I'm going to use three stats that

762
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 5: I looked up on the WNBA page. Which is effective

763
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 5: field goal percentage, which is your field goal percentage, and

764
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 5: it calculates it a little differently because it includes three

765
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 5: point percentages, and it like weighs it a little bit

766
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: higher because they're worth more points. Their pace, which is

767
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 5: how fast you play, and then their net rating, which

768
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 5: is your offensive rating minus your defensive rating, which is

769
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 5: like you basically will be like your point differential.

770
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, everybody keep up.

771
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.

772
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 5: First team we'll talk about is Indiana Fever. They were

773
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: first in effective field goal percentage, second in pace, and

774
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 5: sixth in net rating. New coach Stephanie White, who came

775
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: from the Connecticut Sun, and some notable personal changes is

776
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 5: the additions of Natasha Howard, Sophie Cunningham, Breonna Turner, Dawanna Bonner,

777
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 5: and Sidney Coulson.

778
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 4: Thoughts, Mariah, Well, we've talked in length about the Indiana

779
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: Fever and what they did in the offseason, but I

780
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 4: think they obviously are taking winning and capitalizing all of

781
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: this Caitlin Clark moment.

782
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: They have going very.

783
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: Seriously and I feel like this is exactly how you

784
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: are You're supposed to react to having a star like her,

785
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 4: and they made the playoffs. She was rookie of the

786
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: year she had a great year, Like this all makes sense.

787
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: I'm excited for them. The coaching change, I think is

788
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 4: going to be really big. Poor Connecticut.

789
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: There in the East, we'll get there in the Sea,

790
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: We'll get to them. Yes, but I think that it's

791
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: going to be really exciting.

792
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: I don't I'm not going to call them championship contenders

793
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: or anything.

794
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: Like that, but I think that it's going to be.

795
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: You think that they're.

796
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: Contenders, Yes, I do. I'll tell you why.

797
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait, let's talk about this for a second.

798
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 4: When I say championship contender, I mean I would bet

799
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: my own personal funds that they are going to win

800
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 4: a championship. I guess contending means they could. But like

801
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: I call, I think a contender is like, I will

802
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 4: put you in there right now today, I think you

803
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 4: will win.

804
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 2: I guess my contenter means get to the finals.

805
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get to the finals. Gets to the

806
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: finals is a ya.

807
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why.

808
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 5: I think that there was a lot of misconception about

809
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 5: Kaitlyn Clark's overall game. I think that people got so

810
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 5: caught up in her scoring that they didn't realize how

811
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: good of a point guards she was in college, so

812
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 5: I think that.

813
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 4: Well, not to interrupt to but she didn't get the

814
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: opportunity to show that as much in college because that's

815
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 4: much exactly.

816
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 5: But the plays that she was making still despite all that,

817
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 5: was like insane. But like people were so caught up

818
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 5: in the logo threes and the twenty three point attempts

819
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 5: per game, which absolutely I understand that, Like it was

820
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 5: so much fun to watch. But I always said she

821
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: could potentially be one of the best point guards to

822
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 5: ever play in the WNBA, and everyone was like, shut up, Lexi,

823
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 5: and I was like, all right, led the league and

824
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 5: assists last year as a rookie, which is incredible. So

825
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 5: I think after you know, they take the inventory of

826
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 5: this season, you look at what you have, they said,

827
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 5: we need to give her a more elite supporting cast

828
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: and potentially not as many players that need to be

829
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 5: spoon fed buckets.

830
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: So that's no disrespect to anybody that was on her

831
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: team last year.

832
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 5: Like obviously they made the playoffs, they'd had a great season,

833
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 5: but you have a Natasha Howard and a Dewana Bonner

834
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 5: that can just straight up go get their own bucket,

835
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 5: and they're huge Okay, these are tall people. Okay, guys,

836
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 5: I think they're both like six three and sixty four, right,

837
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: so matchup nightmare. Sophie Cunningham has been playing out of

838
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 5: position in Phoenix for like three years, so she probably

839
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 5: will get to go play the three again. She's a

840
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: very underrated defender, and now you have very elite rimt

841
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 5: protection and breed turner. So now you go keep a

842
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 5: Leah Boston out of foul trouble, which means she's gonna

843
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 5: be at to stale on the court.

844
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: So do I think that they are contender? Yes? I do.

845
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 5: Then you throw in Sid Coulson, who is a very

846
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 5: very very very solid backup point guard and she plays defense,

847
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 5: so you can even.

848
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: Throw her out there with Caitln.

849
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 5: Kayln can chill on defense for the most part, because

850
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 5: defending the one is not easy.

851
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: And it's not.

852
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 5: Because you can't stay in front of people. It's because

853
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 5: all they do is get freaking high ball screens constantly

854
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 5: and it's hard to navigate those at times, especially when

855
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: the screener is six five. So yes, I do think

856
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 5: they're a contender because they strategically gave Caitlyn Clark a

857
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: very very very well balanced team where she won't have

858
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: to carry as much as the load I don't think,

859
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: and she can fish. She'll probably end up facilitating even

860
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: more than last season. And then I didn't even talk

861
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: about I didn't even mention Kelsey Mitchell. I can't believe

862
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: I forgot to mention Kelsey Mitton. All I do is

863
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 5: talk about her constantly. I have my notes right here.

864
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 5: I didn't even put Kelsey Miss's name on there, Like,

865
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, Kelsey.

866
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: She might be the most important returner.

867
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: I also, you make a really good point about defense

868
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: and Caitlin being able to preserve herself on that side

869
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: of the court, because that is really really dangerous because

870
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: one I don't think she's ever had that ever, and

871
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: two they also have to protect her as far as

872
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: staying healthy.

873
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

874
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: Exactly? Have I convinced you you.

875
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: Make great points, really make great points. But we shall go.

876
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: We shall continue on.

877
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, speaking of contenders, we're gonna talk about the

878
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 5: current WNBA.

879
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: Champs, the Liberty.

880
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 5: They were third in effective field goal percentage, seventh in pace,

881
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: and first in net rating.

882
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: And don't let.

883
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: That confuse you, because every time we played the Liberty,

884
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: Like we were like they don't really like.

885
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: Playing defense like that, which they don't.

886
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 5: They just scored way more points than everybody, so yes,

887
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: they have the number one net rating, but like, let's

888
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 5: not get it confused, like they're not locking up.

889
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: They wasn't locking up on defense.

890
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 5: Which with that being said, the additions that they have

891
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 5: added might have them us. Yes, so they didn't make

892
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 5: a coaching change. They added Natasha Cloud, Isabelle Harrison, and

893
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 5: Marine Johannes decided to come and play, which is so

894
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: fun for all of us to chase that girl around.

895
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: And and someone that.

896
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 5: Probably everyone has forgotten about is Rebecca Gardner. She's been

897
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 5: out with injury. She was on the Chicago Sky now

898
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 5: she's on the Liberty. She, if everybody remembers, was the

899
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 5: oldest rookie ever. Everyone just reminded us constantly how old

900
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 5: she was a rookie.

901
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: So love that for her. We played together in Israel.

902
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 5: She's a very smooth player, she's a great defender, she's

903
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: super athletic, very underrated. So them adding Rebecca as well

904
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 5: is huge for them, especially defensively.

905
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: But I'm interested to see how Tash.

906
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: Intermingles with this group. We watched Tash and Sabrina play

907
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 5: pretty well together and unrivaled, because I remember we mentioned

908
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 5: that a lot while ago that tashould probably try to

909
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 5: get on the Liberty because her and Sabrina got a

910
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 5: good little thing going on.

911
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: I can't believe, like we call that that literally and

912
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 4: it took a minute for it to happen.

913
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: But I'm happy for her.

914
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: So am I and I know that, Like remember we

915
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: would always talk about like the Liberty, like as good

916
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: as they were, they kind of like lacked like a

917
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 5: real personsonality And that's why they made Ellie like the

918
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: face of the Liberty. Ellie is their mascot, guys, by

919
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 5: the way, which she is amazing and has been actually

920
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: so great for the Liberty and the WNBA.

921
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 2: But I don't like that.

922
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: Their forward facing thing is their mascot and not one

923
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 5: of their players. I've always thought that was interesting to me.

924
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: I kind of love that for them, especially being in

925
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 4: a franchise like New York and it's so forward facing

926
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: and it could be so marquee and this that and

927
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: the third they.

928
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: Just want to hoop like they're not.

929
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: I see that they're not stressing all that other stuff.

930
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: They really just get to chill and play basketball.

931
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 4: Right, They're like, let let Ellie go do the press

932
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: tour and go.

933
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 5: I never thought about it that way, like the fact

934
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 5: Ellie like, yeah, I used to think it was weird,

935
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 5: But I'm like maybe they liked, like maybe they asked

936
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 5: for it to be like that, Like that wouldn't actually

937
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 5: surprise me considering who's on the team, Like they are

938
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: a very marketable.

939
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: Group Stewie signature shoe.

940
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, they already are doing their thing, They're making their

941
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 6: money on and off the court, and they still get

942
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 6: to just hoop and kind of stay out of having

943
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 6: to do all that face the franchise extronists and just

944
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 6: and go win the championship.

945
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: I would have preferred that.

946
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: That's actually a great point, especially in New York.

947
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Mariah, you you have turned me because

948
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 5: I used to kind of have an attitude because I

949
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: was like, why do we see the elephant one of

950
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: the players. But that makes sense and that's why they

951
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: probably freaking we.

952
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 4: Still the players just enough at the parade.

953
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: Facts with their championships and everything. I think that Tash

954
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 5: is going to be a great addition. She's going to bring,

955
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: you know, a different type of personality, a toughness, and

956
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 5: I think that I always said Sabrina plays well with

957
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: an elite point guard. So going from one elite point

958
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 5: guard to the next, and from Cody Matter, salute to

959
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 5: Natasha Cloud. So I'm excited about the Liberty. I'm very

960
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 5: excited for Natasha and let's see if they can defend

961
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 5: that title. Next we have the dream At Yeah, oh yeah,

962
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 5: this is your team. Well technically mine too, but they

963
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 5: were last in effective field goal percentage, eleventh in pace,

964
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 5: and seventh in net rating. I we lost to the Dreams.

965
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 5: I think every time we played them, which I was like, how, like, well,

966
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: I don't know, like they had our number for some reason,

967
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 5: like it was crazy. New coach coach Smessko. I want

968
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: to say, his last name is Believe. He's from Florida

969
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 5: Golf Coast and if I remember watching any type of

970
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 5: Florida Golf Coast, they like to run running gun, which

971
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 5: will fix their pace problem. Their major additions were Bree Jones,

972
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 5: Tory Walker, kimbro and Brittan Grinder. So my only question

973
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 5: is what type of play style are they going to run?

974
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 5: Because you have two very dynamic scores and Ryan Howard

975
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 5: and Alisha Gray. You have a point guard that wants

976
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: to push pace in Jordan Canada, and now you add

977
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 5: these ginormous players that are pretty limited, not in like

978
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 5: skill set obviously, but like traditionally, they're very limited. They

979
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 5: neither one of them really shoot threes. They don't handle

980
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: the ball, which is basically what those positions are transforming to,

981
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 5: slowly but surely.

982
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: So I'm very interested to see where they.

983
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: Land, what the identity is gonna be.

984
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we watched and we'll talk about Dallas next week,

985
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 5: we watched that double big experiment in Dallas fail miserably.

986
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 5: So I don't know if they're going to do the

987
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 5: double big thing in Atlanta or if they're going to

988
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 5: play them one at a time. I'm talking about Big

989
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 5: and bri Those are two players that typically have been

990
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: one of the focal points of an offense, and I

991
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 5: can see them being like the third or fourth option

992
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: on this team. So Bigi's used to playing with the

993
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 5: dynamic score and Diana Tarassi as far as like outside shooting,

994
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: Bree not so much. That's always what Connecticut's Achilles Hill

995
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 5: was their lack of perimeter consistent three point shooting.

996
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: So maybe it will benefit Bree having.

997
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 5: A completely change of scenery as far as personnel and

998
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 5: play style. I mean, I think Beg's going to be fine,

999
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 5: like she's BG. But they surprised me last year. I

1000
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 5: thought they were going to be better than they were.

1001
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 5: I think they were right there at the playoffs. They

1002
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 5: almost made playoffs.

1003
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: I will say, as we spoke about earlier, we saw

1004
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: this in the MMBA with the Pistons. A coaching change

1005
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: at the right time to build a new culture.

1006
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying might be.

1007
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: The move I believe.

1008
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I believe in them, and I love playing

1009
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 5: in Atlanta even though they're like we have the most

1010
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 5: sold out games in the league. Well yeah, because your

1011
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 5: arena holds twelve people. So like their games are lit

1012
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: because I remember growing up they played in the big

1013
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 5: arena where the Hawks played, and those games were.

1014
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: Lit, and they had.

1015
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 5: Like a down time where the games were in that

1016
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 5: smaller arena and nobody was in there. And now it's

1017
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 5: packed out every night, which I think is amazing, and

1018
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 5: the energy is very Atlanta, like it's Atlanta down in there, Like.

1019
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: It's so funny.

1020
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: You know, it sucks and this is it. I'm not

1021
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 3: even come for the Dream. I see.

1022
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: I see beautiful things for them this season. But I

1023
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: was going to respond to all those things you said,

1024
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: was I feel like this mystery of there's all these

1025
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 4: options of what they could do and who the focal

1026
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: point could be and what could possibly happen, just means

1027
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 4: that we'll have options Lexi.

1028
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, lots and lots of pop shots.

1029
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 4: It is really unfortunate in Atlanta as far as being

1030
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: a sports city that we have every professional sport. We

1031
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: have so many sports teams and we have the fan

1032
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 4: base here and we just don't have winning.

1033
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna need the Dream.

1034
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be dedicating myself this season full time. When

1035
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: I'm not being a dedicated Lexi fan, when I'm there,

1036
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: when I'm there when you play the Dream, I'll be

1037
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 4: supporting you, of course, but I feel like I've dedicated

1038
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: myself to hopefully the Dream being that kind of like

1039
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: Vegas brought Vegas their first professional sports championship.

1040
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: We need that with the Dream. So it's time.

1041
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I have I'm very positive about what they

1042
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 5: got going on there, like even the addition of Chator.

1043
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 5: I didn't talk about her much like she is a

1044
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 5: consistent scoring option. She plays defense, and she's like a

1045
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 5: great teammate because I played with her at Maryland, so

1046
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 5: I know her personally and she's great and I'm glad that,

1047
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 5: like she also is getting a change of scenery. But

1048
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 5: it's gonna be interesting, what like if they're gonna just

1049
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 5: completely change their offense, because it's different when you bring

1050
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: a new player. You bring in not even new players,

1051
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 5: you bring in stars. These are two all stars you're

1052
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 5: bringing in, and then someone who knows how to win,

1053
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 5: like Stories won championship.

1054
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: She won championships in college, Like, she's a winner.

1055
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 5: So you bring in three players like that, you're obviously.

1056
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: Trying to make a culture change.

1057
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 5: So what is that dream team gonna look like this season?

1058
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 5: Because they had such a disappointing year last year. So

1059
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 5: shout out to the dream I'm excited for them. One

1060
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: of my favorite cities to play in and they have

1061
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: I have my favorite jerseys. Looky, playoffs, We playoffs, all right,

1062
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 5: we stamp it.

1063
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: All right, next stuff, we have the Connecticut son.

1064
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 5: I'm going to read off these stats, but like they

1065
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 5: really don't matter because nobody is nobody on the team.

1066
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: Last year is even on the team.

1067
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 5: But I'm still gonna read the stats anyway because we're

1068
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 5: going to keep it consistent. Eighth and affective field goal percentage,

1069
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: last in pace and second in net rating. So new coach,

1070
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 5: the European coach came over Key Editions, Diamond Deshields, Marina Maybury,

1071
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: J C. Sheldon, Yvonne Anderson, Lindsay Allen. Tina Charles was

1072
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 5: the biggest surprise signing for me because I'm not going

1073
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 5: to be an agist. I'm not because I'm creeping up

1074
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 5: there as well. I don't want people to do this

1075
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 5: to me. But I'm like very surprised at like she's

1076
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 5: still playing like and I think it's like I think

1077
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 5: she just won to win like she I can't imagine

1078
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: going that is she.

1079
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 3: Doing in Connecticut.

1080
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like nobody else wanted to give her

1081
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 5: a chance to win, like And I don't know Tina

1082
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 5: Charles personally. I'm pretty sure she was overseas playing like

1083
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 5: the She doesn't get enough credit in my opinion for

1084
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 5: her longevity. She might be right behind DT and scoring. Yeah,

1085
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 5: she's the second leading scorer behind Diana Tarassi. Yes, she's

1086
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 5: over two thousand points. Behind Diana Tarassi, but she's still second,

1087
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 5: and because she hasn't one, people put her in this

1088
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: like box, which unfortunately, that's the reality of sports as

1089
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 5: a certain point winning if you're a good enough player

1090
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 5: winning there is an expectation to win, and she just hasn't.

1091
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: But she's also the all time leading rebounder.

1092
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I see.

1093
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to be

1094
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 4: that person. I think that they should just they should

1095
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 4: just go out there and have fun and try their best.

1096
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: That's what I see.

1097
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 5: But remember when Diamond was on here, she said she's like,

1098
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 5: y'all are sleep on us, and I believe her. It

1099
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 5: doesn't help that one of your star players demanded a trade,

1100
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 5: but two of them said. One actually got it and

1101
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 5: the other one did not get it. So that's probably

1102
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 5: not the greatest I would say. Brina does not want

1103
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 5: to be there. Yeah, that's probably not the best energy

1104
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 5: to have starting a season. But I'm hoping that the

1105
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 5: rest of the team can like override that and make

1106
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 5: her feel comfortable and make her feel like she can

1107
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 5: help them win games.

1108
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: And she needs to stay there because she's not getting traded. Yeah,

1109
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: be serious. She's not.

1110
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 5: You demanded the trade last year, it's not going to happen,

1111
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 5: and then they traded.

1112
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: Tash, so I think they were like, Okay, we'll get

1113
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: rid of one of y'all. So I mean, I want

1114
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: them to have.

1115
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 5: As good of a seat, Like I don't know what

1116
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 5: they're ceiling is, but I want them to get there.

1117
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 5: I would like to see them get there because Diamond

1118
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 5: is my best friend.

1119
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: I want her to be successful.

1120
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 5: So yes, this is a very biased opinion on the

1121
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 5: success I want for Connecticut because I want her to

1122
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: feel success for herself.

1123
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: They have some rookies coming. I know we were going

1124
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: to talk about the rookies.

1125
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 5: But it's like you're starting from scratch. Like for me,

1126
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is fun.

1127
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: Like I know you're in.

1128
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 5: Connecticut and like, no, that's not fun, but like that's

1129
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: beside the point, Like you are starting completely over, Like

1130
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 5: for me, I would love that.

1131
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: Don't send me there, but I'm I'm having given.

1132
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 4: By unbiased synopsis. Okay, for those who don't know, correct

1133
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong. LEXI not a starter from last season.

1134
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: It's still there.

1135
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 2: No, they all love every single one.

1136
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 4: Okay, your entire starting vibe is gone. I knew that,

1137
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: but I just wanted to hear you say it.

1138
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 3: You don't.

1139
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

1140
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: The point is I feel like when you're in a

1141
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: situation like that, where really your whole culture, like we

1142
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: talked about with the coaches, star players, everything, Your coach

1143
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: is gone, your star player's gone. You're starting completely from scratch.

1144
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: My pow for Diamond, I will say, is being in

1145
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 4: that kind of situation is very low pressure and gives

1146
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 4: you an opportunity to shine.

1147
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: And I hope she finds that success for herself.

1148
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: But that organization needs to figure it out low key

1149
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 4: because there's some crazy stat.

1150
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: About they've been to the playoffs the most times.

1151
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, most playoff wins, most playoff wins a championship.

1152
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, most playoff wins that championship. That don't

1153
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: make no sense. And to have that and then to

1154
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: get rid of everybody is like. But I will say,

1155
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 4: I will say that it is important for organizations to

1156
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: know what they're ceiling is and know, Okay, we're not

1157
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: going to get that far with this group. So maybe

1158
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 4: that is a positive for them that they realized they

1159
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 4: weren't going to get to the mountaintop with that group

1160
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 4: and they got well they did not technically bad choice,

1161
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 4: but that group is gone, so maybe this is an

1162
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 4: opportunity for some new fresh blood. But if I'm categorizing these.

1163
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: Teams as you go along, this is probably what I

1164
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 3: will do.

1165
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 4: Between contenders and pretenders, they're pretenders, they're they're not.

1166
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1167
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 5: I would say the only two real contenders so far

1168
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 5: Indiana and New York.

1169
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 3: Indiana and New York for sure.

1170
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, next week you have the Sky eleventh in effective

1171
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 5: field goal percentage, ninth in pace, and tenth in net rating.

1172
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, not very good. New coach coach marsh from

1173
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: the Aces, which I thought was a great hire.

1174
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 5: Key additions Cordy Vandor Slut and Ariel Atkins, so I'm interested.

1175
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: This group is going to be interesting.

1176
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 5: I'm interested that Slute decided to go back to Chicago

1177
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 5: after winning a championship.

1178
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: That was an interesting move to me.

1179
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 5: And I was surprised to see Ariel leave the Mystics.

1180
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 5: I don't know why she left the mistake. I don't

1181
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 5: know what they got going on over there, either, But

1182
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 5: some players don't want to be part of a rebuild,

1183
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 5: and that's completely valid and fair.

1184
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't. You're not for always my primeier is

1185
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: on a rebuild.

1186
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 4: I would love that as a rookie though, Yeah, for sure,

1187
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: I would love that as a rookie being able to

1188
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 4: play it not a high stakes environment, but you're still

1189
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 4: playing professionally against the best of the best and learning

1190
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 4: and getting your foot in without somebody being like, Okay,

1191
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: we're going to trade you if this don't work out.

1192
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 5: So, I mean, but Chicago kind of like kind of

1193
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 5: rebuilding right now too. Yeah, their core players will probably

1194
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 5: be Angel Camilla and Haley, so babies, babies, right. I'm

1195
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 5: very interested to see what type of offense is implemented

1196
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 5: because they brought in some scoring, some outside scoring which

1197
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 5: they were severely lacking last year, and new coaching, new culture,

1198
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 5: coming from a championship culture at that so I don't

1199
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: foresee them trying to do that high low stuff again,

1200
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 5: the double big thing. Like, I'm very interested to see

1201
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 5: what teams that have that personnel actually try to do

1202
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: that double big thing. Because the thing about when you

1203
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 5: do double big lineups.

1204
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: At least one of them has to be versatile.

1205
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 5: They have to be able to bring the ball up,

1206
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 5: they got to be able to pass and they got

1207
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 5: to be able to shoot.

1208
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: So you don't have.

1209
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 5: That in any of the bigs in Chicago, respectfully, Like

1210
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 5: that's not a knock on them, it's just true. Camilla,

1211
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 5: Angel and Elizabeth are very interior post players, which is

1212
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 5: very important, but very hard to play a certain style

1213
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 5: with both of them on the court at the same time.

1214
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 4: Lexi, for our other basketball nerds listening, I'm curious because Angel, Camilla, Haley,

1215
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 4: those are going to be big ticket names as we

1216
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: go through the season and as they go through their careers.

1217
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 4: But as far as on the court, they're actual fit.

1218
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,479
Speaker 4: What you see coming out of that little trio. How

1219
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 4: is that going to look on the basketball court?

1220
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 5: I honestly think whoever plays best with Haley is going

1221
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 5: to play more. Haley said in her press she does

1222
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 5: like I love playing with big players.

1223
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 4: Well, do you think that Angel has an advantage because

1224
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: they played with Obviously it was only one year, and

1225
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 4: that year, I mean, everybody points to it and says

1226
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 4: that you're terribly it didn't really work out, but they

1227
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 4: still they still.

1228
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: Did, They still want Yeah.

1229
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 4: So do you feel like Angel has an advantage in

1230
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 4: that way because she has played with Haley before?

1231
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 5: Or I feel like people didn't even bring that up.

1232
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 5: It's a completely different environment. It's a completely different situation,

1233
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 5: and they're both very different players than they were.

1234
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: Two years was it two years ago?

1235
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: Two years ago?

1236
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 5: You know, Hayley got her confidence back, Angel got her

1237
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 5: swag in the w Like, it's going to be a

1238
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 5: completely new experience for them playing and now you're playing

1239
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: for something different like this is the pros now like

1240
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 5: this in college like these aren't you not playing against

1241
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 5: little girls? No?

1242
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: More like you're playing against grown women.

1243
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 5: But again, Tyler, he's he's used to this very fast paced,

1244
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 5: running gun elite offense and style of play. So them

1245
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 5: being able to implement that with that group, like would

1246
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 5: be really cool to see because I do feel like

1247
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 5: a lot of people think that like that group is

1248
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: going to be very limited, and I feel like if

1249
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 5: they're open to learning and developing, that that group can

1250
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 5: be very special on both ends of the floor. I

1251
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 5: mean we didn't even get to the defensive side. I

1252
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 5: think defensively they could be a nightmare to play against.

1253
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: But you know, you got to score the ball to win,

1254
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 5: So it's gonna be like who's who's gonna have to ball?

1255
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: The most is gonna be the real question.

1256
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 5: Obviously, Ariel and Salute together like that's gonna be a

1257
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 5: one to two punch that I'm very looking forward to see,

1258
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 5: because playing with anybody that plays with Slute automatically is

1259
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: gonna be in a better situation on the floor at

1260
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 5: all positions because she's such a great point guard and

1261
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 5: she has such a feel for the game. And I

1262
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 5: think that's something that Chicago lacked last year, is they

1263
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 5: didn't have somebody that could just like control the game,

1264
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 5: like if it was getting a little out of control.

1265
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 5: They didn't have someone to be like, all right, let's

1266
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 5: chill out for a second, or we need this type

1267
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 5: of bucket, let's get this bucket, let's do this, let's

1268
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 5: do this. And I think Slut will bring that calmness

1269
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 5: to the to the group, which will be good because

1270
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 5: they're so young, and then Ariel can like she can

1271
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 5: give you thirty.

1272
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: At any given night. So I mean, I think they're

1273
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: gonna be better than they were last year. I think so.

1274
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: A lot of the discourse surrounding Angel specifically was double

1275
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: double queen, rebounds, rebounds, rebounds, rebounds, rebounds, and obviously, as

1276
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 4: a fan of angel that wants to be great and

1277
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 4: don't want anybody to talk about her. I will say

1278
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 4: I want to see her finishing more as far as

1279
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 4: looking at her off season, and obviously y'all are only

1280
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 4: going to post the best parts of your workouts. But

1281
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: it seems like that's something that she's been really working on,

1282
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 4: so hopefully that improves.

1283
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: But that's something that I would like to a little

1284
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: nugget I would like to give this guy. I would

1285
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: like to see that.

1286
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean they were second to last and

1287
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 5: field goal percentage, Like that's not like that's a stat

1288
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 5: that is literally a statistic on the internet. They were

1289
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 5: second to last and affective field goal percentage, which is

1290
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 5: a combination of twos and threes, so they barely shot

1291
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 5: any threes. So that means you were very poor shooting twos.

1292
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 2: That's not good.

1293
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 5: You're not gonna win very many games being poor at both.

1294
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 5: So I think that her rebounding is still something that

1295
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 5: is like next level, very elite, like not a lot

1296
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 5: of people can do that. But will her rebounds potentially

1297
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 5: go down if she finishes a little bit better, maybe

1298
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 5: they might, but that's not going to be like she's

1299
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 5: not going to be like, I just hope the conversation

1300
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 5: doesn't heard. Oh look, she's not Like, I just hope

1301
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be a negative thing. If you

1302
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 5: see improvement in her game, you see improvement in her game.

1303
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 5: But we don't know what that is going to look

1304
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 5: like necessarily, but there is going to have to be

1305
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 5: an improvement as far as like finishing around.

1306
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: The basket exactly.

1307
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: And I feel like one thing that you always say

1308
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: is obviously the double double stuff, and her rebounding is

1309
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: super early, and that's great, but if you're not putting

1310
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 4: the ball in the hoop, you're not going.

1311
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: On games exactly.

1312
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 5: So I mean, I'm really looking forward to to this guy.

1313
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 5: You know, they're another team that kind of like cleaned

1314
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 5: house with it. Their whole team basically gone. So I'm

1315
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 5: really excited for them too. I'm always excited for a

1316
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 5: new coach, especially if new black coach.

1317
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: I know, that's right, always excited for that.

1318
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 4: Angel was hurt about their coaching change though, and so

1319
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: I feel like they had to bring somebody in.

1320
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 5: Yeah that could at least give them like confidence that

1321
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 5: like okay, like we're still we still got Fai, but

1322
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 5: he has you know, an incredible background and one championships

1323
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 5: and has a really good reputation, so I think they're

1324
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 5: going to be better.

1325
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: One thing I want to clarify though, for those listening

1326
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: is we have said very similar things about you're gonna

1327
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 4: hate me about Connecticut in Chicago as far.

1328
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: As they cleaned house and blah blah blah.

1329
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: But Connecticut they're not as young.

1330
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: No, they're not as young.

1331
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: So it's not the same thing. This is a true rebuild.

1332
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Connecticut is like out with the old day

1333
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 5: with the new like rip the band aid off. Chicago

1334
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 5: was like, I mean, it's hard to believe that we

1335
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 5: won a championship like three years ago. That is that

1336
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 5: is insane, Like it's like it happened, and then everyone's

1337
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 5: like whatever, who cares.

1338
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: But as you mentioned, the culture there when you want

1339
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 4: a championship was very It was vets trying to win literally,

1340
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: so it was kind of like, Okay, you got yours,

1341
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: and now we're planting this new seed and watering it

1342
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 4: so that we can have another.

1343
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: Group of vets that want to win, that are ready

1344
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: for that.

1345
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 5: It's like basically what it was, and that's kind of

1346
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 5: basically what all the teams are doing right now is

1347
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 5: similar to what Chicago did that one year, was like,

1348
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 5: we're finna win now and then we can figure everything

1349
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 5: else out. Okay, so Sky, I foresee them having a

1350
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 5: much better season than they did last year.

1351
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: But they're still in my pretender's bucket. Sorry Chicago, That's okay,

1352
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 4: all right.

1353
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 5: Last, but not least, we have the Mystics fifth in

1354
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 5: affective field goal percentage, ninth in pace, tenth in net rating.

1355
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: New coach knew a lot of things. I think.

1356
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 5: I don't think they signed anybody in free agency, and

1357
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 5: then they have the seven million rookies that they drafted.

1358
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: Let say shout out to my girl, Kei Ky you

1359
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: ate that dress up eight down that you're in the house, honey.

1360
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 5: So honestly, I think the key returners I guess we

1361
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 5: could just talk about step Dawson, Brittany Sykes, Shakira Austin

1362
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 5: which Shakira Sykes. They both have been dealing with like

1363
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 5: injuries a lot the last like one or two seasons,

1364
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 5: so I'm excited to see both of them healthy. They

1365
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 5: both played and unrivaled, Both looked really good and unrivaled. Oh,

1366
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 5: Steph played in Unrivaled too, So yeah, they've all been

1367
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 5: playing in the off season. I think they are ready

1368
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 5: to win again. You know, the Mystics used to run

1369
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 5: the table for a little bit. Finally they can let

1370
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 5: Elena deladn go because she officially announced her retirement, because

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 5: I know that there was a part of their organization

1372
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 5: like she.

1373
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: Might come back, she might come back.

1374
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 5: So now they can officially like just move on, which

1375
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 5: I think is good, especially with this new group of

1376
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 5: rookies coming in, Like they might be the most rebuilding

1377
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 5: rebuild team right now.

1378
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: For sure, like by a long sure. Sure.

1379
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 4: And I interviewed Kicky and she talked about that they're

1380
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 4: not they're expecting to be in a rebuilding kind of situation.

1381
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 5: It's not yeah, win now mode, because even their vets

1382
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 5: are pretty young, like I mean, I would say Steph

1383
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 5: isn't considered super young, but like her psych Shakira, like

1384
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 5: they still like are.

1385
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: On the young vet side, I feel like.

1386
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 4: So I just also want to note that it's interesting

1387
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 4: that we started off this conversation by talking about the

1388
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 4: East West Conferences elimination in the W because if that

1389
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 4: were the case, if it was East West, I mean, damn,

1390
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 4: like the West is significantly stronger.

1391
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is weird because like, how does that keep happening.

1392
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 5: It's happened in the NBA and the w significantly stronger.

1393
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: And if that were the case, I would consider Indiana

1394
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 4: a real contender if it were East West, because they

1395
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 4: wouldn't really they'll.

1396
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 3: Be able to kind of clean the East up.

1397
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like I might agree with

1398
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 5: you there, but I think that DC is kind of

1399
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 5: in a similar situation as Connecticut, Like y'all have opportunity

1400
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 5: to build a new culture, new era, new style, new everything,

1401
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 5: and they do have some key vets that have played

1402
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 5: a few seasons together to like hold everything down.

1403
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: So it'll be awesome for the rookies.

1404
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, And again, like I'm excited for the like this

1405
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 5: rookie group, like they can like grow together.

1406
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: Like we just don't.

1407
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 5: See that in the WNBA, Like we don't see like two, three,

1408
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 5: four rookies coming in together and figuring it out together

1409
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 5: and whether it's successful or not. Like it's always nice

1410
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 5: to see a group of players like grow and together,

1411
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 5: which is again, white people love college so much. And now, yeah,

1412
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 5: you're kind of seeing it more in the NBA now,

1413
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 5: especially now that these teams are younger than some of

1414
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 5: the college teams playing Like we're looking at Houston, Okay,

1415
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 5: see who else is young?

1416
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 3: Detroit?

1417
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 5: Detroit, Like people are really invested in them because they've

1418
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 5: we've watched them like grow and learn together. Like are

1419
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 5: they gonna win championship? No, probably not, but the journey

1420
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 5: not this year, not this year, but they run at

1421
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 5: the time is ticking. And that's the thing about the

1422
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 5: W as well, is like everybody moves around so much,

1423
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 5: like and then when it comes to the time to

1424
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 5: make real decisions about salaries and contracts and salary cap like.

1425
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: It's all just like very random.

1426
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 5: Because by the thirty year, second or third year, you

1427
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 5: already have moved you rookie to a new team because

1428
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 5: she even give her a chance to develop or she

1429
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 5: wasn't able to keep up. But like, that's not what

1430
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 5: your pro career is about. It's about development and growing

1431
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 5: and learning. Unless something just horrible happens during the season,

1432
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 5: she must go that's different. But that's usually not the case.

1433
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 4: But I want to before we go, ask you as

1434
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 4: far as I know, in the NBA, the MNBA, I

1435
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 4: should say, they.

1436
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: Don't get us kissing Mariah saying that shit.

1437
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: Sorry, Lexi, Lexi does not I.

1438
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 5: Do not say m NBA guys, I know probably all

1439
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 5: would like me to. I'm very much an NBA fan.

1440
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: I love NBA. So Mariah Maria said it.

1441
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 4: I think everybody knows that I am an NBA fan.

1442
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 4: The point is, I feel like in the NBA we

1443
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 4: have seen ever since the Warriors dynasty, the formula for

1444
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 4: winning a championship became smaller. The game got more outside outside, outside, outside,

1445
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 4: and some fancying it's boring.

1446
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. That's my favorite. That's my favorite album.

1447
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: Asked wall to watch, but that's.

1448
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 4: Either here nor there in the W you mentioned double

1449
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: biggs in Atlanta and Chicago, that kind of situation. What

1450
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 4: do you think that the recipe for success, whether it's

1451
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: going to work or not, But like, what do you

1452
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 4: think that these coaches and these organizations are seeing as Okay,

1453
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 4: this is this is the style on the W that

1454
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 4: everybody's kind of implementing.

1455
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 5: I do think that more outside shooting is coming, which

1456
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 5: makes me excited and very happy because at the end

1457
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 5: of the day, threes are worth more than twos. Like

1458
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 5: what like that is what it is? From the last

1459
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 5: three or four championships, the best player.

1460
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: Of the team has been that four So.

1461
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 5: I think the key right now in the W is

1462
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 5: having a really versatile foreman.

1463
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: And versutile can mean a lot of things. That's why

1464
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: it's versatile.

1465
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 5: Like maybe they can shoot really well, Okay, maybe not.

1466
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 5: Maybe they can pass very well, maybe they can bring

1467
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 5: the ball up, they can initiate offense like what you

1468
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 5: would consider like a glue player, but they're like super

1469
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 5: glue because they are also scoring the ball. So I

1470
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 5: feel like, you know, you have the best players in

1471
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 5: the league right now. And if he's the Collier Ajia Wilson,

1472
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 5: Breonna Stewart, Neka Gloo McKay, I mean Natasha Howard could

1473
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 5: reinsert herself in that conversation on this Indiana team, John

1474
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 5: cul Jones like, these are what you consider like the top.

1475
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: Players in the league right now.

1476
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 5: And then directly under those players, I think are the

1477
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 5: perimeter players that can hit outside shots. So the Ariquees,

1478
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 5: Jewel Lloyd, Kelsey Plumb, Chelsea Gray, Jackie Young me.

1479
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 3: I was gonna say Lexi Brown hello.

1480
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 5: So first I'll thank Arik because she was probably one

1481
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 5: of the first players to come out and shoot autumn

1482
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 5: damn threes off the bounce, off the like all the

1483
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 5: crazy shots. Jewel Lloyd I think has been more of

1484
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 5: like a surgical score, you know, coming off of pin

1485
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 5: Down's curls, like not as random as Arique's buckets.

1486
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: And then you bring in.

1487
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 5: A Kaitlyn Clark who's doing all the logo shooting off

1488
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 5: the bounce, coming off screens, pull up transition threes, like

1489
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 5: now everybody's like, okay, like this is what we can do,

1490
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 5: Like this is the style of play that's gonna win

1491
01:08:58,880 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 5: you games.

1492
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: But also facilitating, because it's like you're drawing so much

1493
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 4: attention to yourself that it confuses defenses, and if you

1494
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 4: can facilitate and make plays, then you're dangerous.

1495
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1496
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 5: So I mean, yes, you look at the Golden Golden

1497
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 5: State Warriors has been the formula. You have elite scores

1498
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 5: from the perimeter, and then you have your glue man.

1499
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: So the Draymonds of the world.

1500
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 5: But I feel like that position in the w is

1501
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 5: more offensively gifted than the Draymond what you would call

1502
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 5: the Draymonds of the NBA, which because there's so much

1503
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 5: perimeter scoring now, like that person doesn't necessarily have to score. Also,

1504
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 5: they have more time, Like there's just so many different

1505
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 5: things in the NBA that are different from the WNBA,

1506
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 5: Like we have more time to play, more people.

1507
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 2: Would be scoring.

1508
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 5: But because that position right now is so versatile and

1509
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 5: so good gifted offensively, and then just a matchup nightmare.

1510
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 5: Like they're just like kind of the key piece. So

1511
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 5: the fore man has been the key.

1512
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: To WNBA's success.

1513
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 5: Now there's some shoot around them. Very hard to.

1514
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 3: Guard, very hard to guard. Shout out to the.

1515
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: Force, Shout out to the four.

1516
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 4: Well, Lexi, I'm really excited for next week because I'm

1517
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 4: about to come with stuff to say about these lest teams.

1518
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'll have a nice little update for our

1519
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 5: first day of training camp because it'll be the day

1520
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 5: after our camp.

1521
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 4: When are we going to have ours our a Lexi's

1522
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 4: goals show right before the season starts, like at the

1523
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 4: beginning of Bay.

1524
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, right before our first actual game, not our preseason games,

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Speaker 5: our first actual games, so I can actually put together

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Speaker 5: a realistic list, you know, okay, because I want us

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Speaker 5: to be able to check these goals off. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to end the season and nothing is checked because

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Speaker 5: I've made goals that didn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: I will say.

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Speaker 4: When I was working for the Atlanta Hawks, I was

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Speaker 4: on the social team and we did this thing where

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Speaker 4: the players would write down their goals for the season

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Speaker 4: on the little poolaroid to be cute to put them

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Speaker 4: on our Instagram, and the whole starting five did it,

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Speaker 4: and so obviously everybody put win a championship as their goal,

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Speaker 4: except for Capella, who put go to the conference titles

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Speaker 4: and everybody.

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Speaker 3: They tore us up in the comments.

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Speaker 4: Tore us he was so mad about at the social

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Speaker 4: team for posting that.

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Speaker 3: He was so mad, But.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you say, right, I mean, and he

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Speaker 4: was probably be the most realistic out of everybody.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, like what y'all want them to lie about

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Speaker 5: the goals just so y'all can make fun of them

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Speaker 5: if they don't get the championship because they all knew

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Speaker 5: they wasn't gonna get going.

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Speaker 2: So so funny. That's really funny.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I hope y'all enjoyed our little breakdown of

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Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference and the WNBA. We're really excited for

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Speaker 5: next week to get into the West and this season

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Speaker 5: is going to be really fun. But thank y'all for

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Speaker 5: tuning in again. I hope you guys enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: We will see y'all next week on the Full Circle Podcast.

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Speaker 4: week with more basketball for the Girls by the Girls.

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