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Speaker 2: Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: It is. I've been thinking of.
Speaker 4: Its keeping with the tradition of the holiday. Nothing like
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving Day in Texas, North Texas.
Speaker 5: That's it is very fstive out there, guys.
Speaker 4: And even going back to the Cotton Bowl days when
Speaker 4: this Thanksgiving tradition began back in the late sixties, continuing
Speaker 4: at Texas Stadium and now at at and T Stadium
Speaker 4: in Arlington. We're getting you ready for Cowboys Giants. You ready?
Speaker 1: I am absolutely.
Speaker 6: I think of music going, oh yeah, it's tours. Tours
Speaker 6: are family out there with bags of stuff.
Speaker 5: And then I sat thinking, Jerry's just making.
Speaker 1: Money so they can afford to put you on a podcast.
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, that fourteen billion doesn't go far.
Speaker 4: So here we are. It's noon on a Wednesday, the
Speaker 4: Wednesday before Thanksgiving Day, and all is well once again
Speaker 4: in the Cowboys universe.
Speaker 1: That's right right. We won a game came.
Speaker 4: Off a win. We heard the fight song two times
Speaker 4: in three days. Heard it on Monday, heard it again
Speaker 4: on Wednesday. If we had a show on Friday, we'll
Speaker 4: hear it again on Friday.
Speaker 1: Picks the click and hear it.
Speaker 4: Again on Monday. Remember that producer Supreme.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 6: I must admit that I finally got a really good
Speaker 6: chance to take a look at the game.
Speaker 5: Okay, And it was.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're talking about the Washington game, Washington. You're looking
Speaker 4: at it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You know that's funny. I watched. I was working last night,
Speaker 1: trying to get ahead for today. I was watching the game.
Speaker 6: I watched it stretch out the old muscles and I said,
Speaker 6: you know, well, let me put this in and see.
Speaker 4: But it was on live on NFL network last night.
Speaker 4: That's how good a game it was. It was the
Speaker 4: game of the week on the NFL Network.
Speaker 5: I take it. Sorry, That's why I got it. So. Uh.
Speaker 6: Lewis Jordan Lewis Man, he's a stud bro is he
Speaker 6: comes out there. Man refused to let the to let
Speaker 6: to be blocked. I saw him split a double team blocker.
Speaker 6: He was being trying. They tried to push him inside.
Speaker 6: He kept his leverage outside as you should have. Another
Speaker 6: blocker was coming around looking for someone on that outside
Speaker 6: run play, and he not only fought off his man,
Speaker 6: he split in between the oncoming blocker and him and
Speaker 6: made the play and made the play. If everyone fought
Speaker 6: that hard, then we'd have a much better run defense
Speaker 6: on this team.
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing I noticed, and we talked a
Speaker 1: little bit about the number of tackles that Josh Butler made,
Speaker 1: but he made the tackles right and even in the
Speaker 1: running game helping.
Speaker 5: Out he did. He was geeked up.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: He probably still is.
Speaker 6: Get okay, here we go, boy, all right. It was nice, man.
Speaker 6: He did a good job.
Speaker 4: And we're starting already.
Speaker 5: Lockdown corner, Calm down, Yeah, everybody.
Speaker 1: He did a nice job. But I thought he was
Speaker 1: physical if nothing else. And you know what, he's bigger
Speaker 1: than you think. I mean, he's like six. He knows
Speaker 1: I know, Bill's got it in his green. He knows
Speaker 1: how I want to say, six to one.
Speaker 6: He knows how to approach each position, each situation like
Speaker 6: a professional.
Speaker 5: Six.
Speaker 6: He was isolated on yeah, just a little bubbles, not
Speaker 6: unlessary bubbles a lot. They just tried to isolate him
Speaker 6: on the ye receiver and he came through it. I
Speaker 6: don't recall him missing a tackle, which is hard to
Speaker 6: do with someone that just come out there and they're
Speaker 6: trying to attack him. With McLaurin and all these different schemes.
Speaker 6: He was, he was a target. I don't trust me.
Speaker 6: I know the feeling. How long? How many times was
Speaker 6: he targeted?
Speaker 1: Can they Yeah, I don't know if they register target
Speaker 1: They do that for wide receivers, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if they know.
Speaker 6: I know they did back at eighty one because you
Speaker 6: got registered. I got registered fifteen times a game.
Speaker 4: You would have to subscribe to Pro football.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't trust his favorite people, and I don't trust
Speaker 1: him anyway.
Speaker 6: And let's be real, guys, we still made some of
Speaker 6: the dumbest mistakes we can make. Well, let's let's just
Speaker 6: let's just acknowledge that that we won in spite of
Speaker 6: ourselves on the road against a team that's playing still
Speaker 6: playing better than us.
Speaker 1: Got a field goal and a punt blocked. Come on,
Speaker 1: man just got run over both times. Didn't do a
Speaker 1: good job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what do we What is lost?
Speaker 6: Is that new all of a sudden, we're getting our
Speaker 6: punt protector double team into the punter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the thing that we never had.
Speaker 1: It almost happened again this it did, Yes, it did.
Speaker 1: Watching I didn't realize it was that.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, when you look at the win, then
Speaker 6: you forget things. But I wanted to see how much
Speaker 6: improvement we made. That was improvement, but that was also
Speaker 6: the same mistakes made over again on the offensive line,
Speaker 6: untimely penalties. But Tyler Gayton, man, he's gotta he's got
Speaker 6: to figure out.
Speaker 5: See.
Speaker 4: That's why I would have been great to have John
Speaker 4: Fossil this week talking about the rivalry between special teams
Speaker 4: coaches in the league. And we didn't have the coordinators
Speaker 4: this week because of the short week, and Larry Izzo
Speaker 4: is the special teams coach for Washington. And as I
Speaker 4: was watching the game, I was thinking about, Okay, Izzo
Speaker 4: got the block field goal at the Star and that
Speaker 4: was the guy Kawan Martin. I told you had the
Speaker 4: forty four inch vertical and he needed all that explosion
Speaker 4: going through the line. Okay, and then they had pushing
Speaker 4: back Trent Sig And I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if that was I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: gonna say this, it's not long guard.
Speaker 4: Let me, okay, I knew you would say that when
Speaker 4: I said he's got a forty four inch vertical, Mickey.
Speaker 4: The reason that the scouting department looks at a vertical
Speaker 4: isn't how high you can jump.
Speaker 1: How long your arms are. No, it's not how long
Speaker 1: your arms are that helps the vertical.
Speaker 5: Right does the vertical?
Speaker 4: Yes, they are measuring the explosive athletic ability of that.
Speaker 1: Guy's hand was way out there.
Speaker 4: That's funny because earlier the week it just came and maybe.
Speaker 1: That was a shadow over the entire might have been
Speaker 1: the blocka more so than that.
Speaker 4: Funny every literally earlier the week, I'm driving in and
Speaker 4: I'm going, okay, I'm going to bring out Kawan Mark's
Speaker 4: vertical on the show. And I know what, I just knew.
Speaker 1: I'm glad.
Speaker 4: Because Mickey used the contrarian. So you always have to
Speaker 4: be prepared for the comeback when Mickey says something that's fun.
Speaker 6: But we got to work on that one, brother. But
Speaker 6: I was thinking Turpin saved Fossils.
Speaker 4: Exactly, that's what he's about to say. So Iso was
Speaker 4: winning the special battle in the game, but Fossil got
Speaker 4: the last laugh because of terp and then Thomas says
Speaker 4: he get credit or not give her.
Speaker 6: I saw again last night, I'm scoring. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 6: not I'm not. I mean, how many times he get
Speaker 6: to score? If Thomas I am scoring?
Speaker 4: And how many times can uh Jade and Daniels complete
Speaker 4: a hell Mary? Right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: Well, the odds were catching up, but he's not going
Speaker 4: to do it again. He just completed an eighty six yards.
Speaker 5: In the field. On the field if.
Speaker 4: Probably they probably have many dbs.
Speaker 6: I would have done that, would have done all I
Speaker 6: could make sure that they don't score on the and
Speaker 6: so we kick off return and possibly.
Speaker 1: And then and then give uh uh you know, credit
Speaker 1: for the recovery of the first on side kicks and
Speaker 1: he did what you're supposed to just fall on it, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you try to pick it up.
Speaker 4: To your point. Okay when you look back at that game,
Speaker 4: because we still remember Randall Williams return of an on
Speaker 4: side kick from the same things, right, but that was
Speaker 4: the fastest started game, right, Yeah, it was the start of
Speaker 4: a game, and it was the fastest kickoff return into
Speaker 4: the history of football. Okay, so we still remember that.
Speaker 1: Supposedly it was only three seconds or something like that
Speaker 1: four seconds, because this was seven.
Speaker 5: And he was fast anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he caught the ball on the wrong and
Speaker 1: that's the one thing you remember from Randall Williams career.
Speaker 4: Yes, and so will this be the one thing we
Speaker 4: remember remember Thomas? Well, well, you know, hopefully maybe this
Speaker 4: jump starts his career.
Speaker 1: You know what, it reminded you that this guy was
Speaker 1: is a fast player. Like at Georgia Tech, he was
Speaker 1: a kickoff return guy and he ran for touchdown.
Speaker 5: They were after his butt, in fact, they were.
Speaker 4: Yeahan tweeted this the other on Monday or Sunday night.
Speaker 4: It was November what the day of the game, November
Speaker 4: twenty four Yeah, kickoff return for touchdown. On November twenty fourth,
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, he had a kickoff return for a touchdown
Speaker 4: against Georgia Tech, or for Georgia Tech.
Speaker 1: Because that's why they had him fast, That's why they
Speaker 1: had him back. When they were using two returners. Everybody
Speaker 1: is thinking on he's there to block, Yes, And his
Speaker 1: point was I've returned kickoffs for touchdown.
Speaker 5: He shouldn't say anything. Yeah, he shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Say but now they've just gone one back, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: get an extra blocker. I think they've decided that up
Speaker 1: front extra blocker, and.
Speaker 5: I think also it needs to be noted.
Speaker 6: You know, we gave ced a lot of crap for
Speaker 6: some of the games that he had with Dak his
Speaker 6: his he turned that switchback on, you know, of just
Speaker 6: if that ball's in the air, not only I'm going
Speaker 6: to get it, yeah, I'm going to get more.
Speaker 1: Well, how about this? So he had ten catches for
Speaker 1: sixty seven yards, and somebody asked McCarthy yesterday, are you
Speaker 1: a little worried about Lamb's average per catch because last
Speaker 1: year he finished with thirteen. This year he's three less.
Speaker 1: And I'm going did you watch him play? So he's
Speaker 1: at ten point nine a catch on the twentieth ranked
Speaker 1: offense in the league with the backup quarterback getting ready
Speaker 1: to play his fourth game, by the way, and look
Speaker 1: at how he's running with the ball after he gets it,
Speaker 1: not for distance, for yardage, right.
Speaker 5: Just to move that change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a mess, right he was, And he should
Speaker 1: have had he should have had another one when they
Speaker 1: miss marked it.
Speaker 5: Well no, no, they marked it a.
Speaker 1: First down, then they brought it back to third down.
Speaker 6: I thought that there was a flag on that play
Speaker 6: against gid No, that was another one. That was another Yeah,
Speaker 6: okay because guys across.
Speaker 1: But yeah, his yards were hard, those those were there,
Speaker 1: those those tough yards.
Speaker 6: I gotta say, that's the toughest game I've seen him play. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean it was like that's saying a lot compared
Speaker 6: to some of the dynamic games games that he's had.
Speaker 6: But his his effort, I've never seen him have so
Speaker 6: much effort time after time after time, and and those
Speaker 6: those are frustrating, uh plays, because when with a guy
Speaker 6: who loves to hit the home run, it's frustrating to
Speaker 6: just keep getting short passes. His mindset in that game was,
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna worry about that. I'm going to make
Speaker 6: the most of every past that I catch.
Speaker 1: As they say it in the beginning, he got dirty
Speaker 1: yards after catch I likes. Yeah, and he was playing
Speaker 1: through something.
Speaker 5: Uh huh yeah, still with the best.
Speaker 1: Still this week too, by the way, he said.
Speaker 5: I'm playing the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta like that. What you got?
Speaker 4: Have you looked at the league leaders and receptions?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he's the league leader seventy seven.
Speaker 4: He is, Yes, the same thing I'm sitting there looking
Speaker 4: at his stet. I'm gonna wait. It says he's the
Speaker 4: league leader in receptions. I don't look at it obviously
Speaker 4: on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1: And he he and.
Speaker 4: Just got seventy seventy leads the league and.
Speaker 1: He's only and some of those guys have played twelve
Speaker 1: games already.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, And so we're worried about what.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 1: That was my reaction yards per.
Speaker 4: Catch, he's down two yards per cat. He had thirteen
Speaker 4: yards of year ten boy nine this year.
Speaker 5: Nobody cares about that when you see what after.
Speaker 4: These years, you know, here's the other thing. He had
Speaker 4: a ninety two yarder last year. That's going to raise
Speaker 4: your average yards per catch.
Speaker 1: That was like asking McCarthy on Monday, are you worried
Speaker 1: about a letdown after you win a game?
Speaker 4: It's like, seriously, they just want him that.
Speaker 1: I tell you, there's a book of cliches out there
Speaker 1: and you gotta ask.
Speaker 6: And especially people, are they what do they call them
Speaker 6: the robots? What do they call them on the bots?
Speaker 4: Just the bots?
Speaker 6: A bunch of bots out there asked a stupid ask question.
Speaker 6: They are man, that's.
Speaker 1: Really especially at least we got the line the Valley
Speaker 1: of adversity.
Speaker 4: I love that, especially in a short week. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: think these the coaches and players are thinking about anything,
Speaker 4: but what's the next thing to do?
Speaker 1: We got to get ready.
Speaker 4: And I'm not just any short week. This is a
Speaker 4: This is coming off a short week too, and you're
Speaker 4: you're got the artist of weeks.
Speaker 1: That's why when they asked Butler what he was going
Speaker 1: to do for his birthday on Monday, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta wait till we got Friday, Saturday, and Sunday off.
Speaker 4: We're pushing that back. And he has a team captain.
Speaker 1: Bosch Butler this week yep, yep, got a game ball
Speaker 1: and is that one of these? And he'll be No,
Speaker 1: he rotates, he rotates him. So you know what I
Speaker 1: was writing it down. I was trying to predict who.
Speaker 5: It was going to be.
Speaker 4: I think the fact that he is a Dallas kid
Speaker 4: at Thanksgiving Thanksgiving is the factors into it at all.
Speaker 4: Or he said twelve how many games? Is this twelfth
Speaker 4: game this season? And you start running out of defensive place.
Speaker 1: Well he passed now. And especially the same thing I
Speaker 1: was thinking on special teams, like he's used a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys on special teams, and one I knows hasn't
Speaker 1: been used as Anger. Turpin's already done it one time,
Speaker 1: and the deep snapper Sig has done it once, Aubrey once,
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking it's time for Anger.
Speaker 6: The question is should we worming about Aubrey? He's starting to.
Speaker 1: So when he was when he was warming up, he
Speaker 1: was having trouble with the wind that correction, and he
Speaker 1: even said it that he realized he needed to hit
Speaker 1: it either dead center or a little bit to the
Speaker 1: left because the wind was going to the right. And
Speaker 1: I watched him. I saw him when warm ups making
Speaker 1: that adjustment after he missed one, and he didn't hit
Speaker 1: it where he went. It was a weird win in
Speaker 1: that stadium because on that way the ribbons up there
Speaker 1: were not moving whatsoever. Behind him going the other way,
Speaker 1: the wind was blown straight across.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Is the water near that state Now it's out in
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. That's why they want to move.
Speaker 5: They move.
Speaker 6: They just moved there, so they mean but the owner.
Speaker 1: The new owner, was to get back in d C.
Speaker 1: But it's the land where r FK was, so that's
Speaker 1: congressional land. So he has to get approved by Congress.
Speaker 5: You got you gotta move it back, man, Yeah, you
Speaker 5: just got it.
Speaker 1: It's just a terrible location. Yeah, hard to get to
Speaker 1: and the stadium is just bare bones. So it was
Speaker 1: the food in the Prince. But it's always just weird.
Speaker 4: You got me. Since you started talking about the weather,
Speaker 4: I decided I'd look at the weather for tomorrow. It's cloudy,
Speaker 4: cloudy tomorrow.
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful day to day, beautiful day.
Speaker 4: And it's by the way in the heigh to day's
Speaker 4: eighty three degrees. Yes, what is going on tomorrow? I
Speaker 4: was fifty two?
Speaker 1: Okay, eighty three forty? How's that low?
Speaker 4: Is forty two? So if you're headed here, make sure
Speaker 4: you're bundled up for that long walk to the city.
Speaker 5: We sounded the tailgate.
Speaker 4: Oh really, I need to be bring your park again.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be windy and uh high
Speaker 4: have fifty two.
Speaker 5: To appreciate that. I need to know that.
Speaker 4: So there you go. So the sun does not have
Speaker 4: need to factor into the game.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. When they were warming up for
Speaker 1: the game, I was on the field, I couldn't see.
Speaker 1: The sun was just blinding me in my eyes. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm going well maybe it'll move a little and go
Speaker 1: down before that, which game is all out on Sunday
Speaker 1: in Washington. Yeah, they didn't have any shade for the.
Speaker 4: Put their curtains up or no, I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: No, you know what they've done there, by the way,
Speaker 1: So that stadium used to hold ninety thousand and they
Speaker 1: weren't selling out, so they blocked off all these seats
Speaker 1: on the top row, and then in the end zones
Speaker 1: they put up these I don't know what it is
Speaker 1: for standing room only at the top of the stadium,
Speaker 1: not not in the end zones like the cow I
Speaker 1: mean at the top of the state. It's all this
Speaker 1: brownish red and they blocked off all those seats because
Speaker 1: they couldn't sell it out.
Speaker 5: But they are selling out now though not.
Speaker 1: Those seats they blocked them off. I mean what they
Speaker 1: put up there is it's permanent.
Speaker 4: Because I saw it on the TV broadcast, I thought
Speaker 4: they're not selling out there, so they were blocked off.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and then the end zones up high at
Speaker 1: the top by.
Speaker 5: They got a lot of work to do. I mean,
Speaker 5: as an.
Speaker 1: Organization, were making the new guys make you know, they're
Speaker 1: making progress, right, he just really scooling.
Speaker 5: Nobody liked him, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, he wasn't likable. I remember when he first came,
Speaker 1: he got the team and he came. Uh, Jerry was
Speaker 1: given a tour of the ranch, their practice facility, and
Speaker 1: he was showing them around and and I heard this
Speaker 1: and it was like Jerry was introducing him to people.
Speaker 1: And Jerry forgot his wife's name, and he said something
Speaker 1: like figures under his breath, Snyder, And I'm going, seriously,
Speaker 1: the guy's doing you a favor showing around and everything,
Speaker 1: and you do that.
Speaker 5: They couldn't wait to get him out of there.
Speaker 1: I remember him doing what it was at the Stadium
Speaker 1: club at Texas Stadium and uh, the Patriots owner, Why
Speaker 1: can't I think? Yeah, he was. He was showing him
Speaker 1: around and uh, he entered. He introduced me to Craft,
Speaker 1: told him what we do on the website, and he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need people like that on our website. But he
Speaker 1: didn't understand what Jerry was right, I said, I wanted
Speaker 1: to tell no, we're not part of the pr staff.
Speaker 1: You know, Jerry treats us a little differently. And it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen in the NFL like them too, by the way,
Speaker 1: because when it first started with the websites, uh, most
Speaker 1: of the p or the websites, uh. With the team,
Speaker 1: it was like part of the PR department. So what what?
Speaker 6: What did? What did Snyder do? What was his thing?
Speaker 6: How did he make his money?
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Speaker 4: Okay, let's clean up the mess from the last segment
Speaker 4: before we get onto more important matters. Daniel Snyder and
Speaker 4: his sister Michelle founded Snyder Communications in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 4: He became the youngest CEO of a New York Stock
Speaker 4: Exchange listed company at the age of thirty two. In
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety six and continue to expand the company through
Speaker 4: string of acquisitions such as Arnold Worldwide in nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: seven had over twelve thousand employees one billion dollars in
Speaker 4: annual revenues. Nighter a communication.
Speaker 1: So what was the communications? What did they do from
Speaker 1: the start? They owned radio stations or something.
Speaker 4: Maybe something because I think advertising company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he bought the station to do there be
Speaker 1: their flagship station from the start.
Speaker 4: I believe. Okay, so we're ready to move on.
Speaker 5: Now, yes, yes, very I just wanted to know how.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm hearing that a certain quarterback for the
Speaker 4: New York Giants is not accompanying the team on the
Speaker 4: trip to Dallas. Well, but the report is that he
Speaker 4: will eventually get to Dallas though, Tommy DeVito. Their reports
Speaker 4: are that, let me find it here.
Speaker 1: He's sore. He's got a sore arm.
Speaker 5: Else got so much.
Speaker 4: An ESPN NFL Nation reporter Jordan Raynon says it's a
Speaker 4: long shot that Tommy DeVito will be able to play
Speaker 4: Thursday versus Cowboys, per source that puts Drew Lockey line
Speaker 4: for a start. Earlier, he had reported that da Vito
Speaker 4: is not flying with the team. He will join them
Speaker 4: later in Dallas. He says. DeVito and cornerback Deonte Banks,
Speaker 4: listed as questionable. Giants are going to be without left
Speaker 4: tackle Jermaine Luminor on Thanksgiving versus that Cowboys.
Speaker 1: So why is he not flying with the team.
Speaker 4: I have no idea to rest his forearm. Maybe I
Speaker 4: have no idea, no more treatment on his right forearm
Speaker 4: today and then he flies, or maybe they're just not coming.
Speaker 1: That's bad news for the Cowboys. Drew Box a much
Speaker 1: better quarterback.
Speaker 4: Well, he went to Missouri, That's why he said.
Speaker 1: Well, and that too, he has experienced the enemy Vito.
Speaker 5: He's the Italian?
Speaker 4: Are you Italian?
Speaker 1: Very much? So, Tommy DeVito, I'm sorry, he's the third quarterback.
Speaker 4: He is your allergency.
Speaker 1: Drew Locke is the best.
Speaker 5: The heritage of the Italian.
Speaker 1: Have more allegiance to yours. And he right, Okay, his
Speaker 1: agent looks like you right out of The Godfather. Don't
Speaker 1: you remember seeing that last year when he started, you know,
Speaker 1: he started his first game last year it was against
Speaker 1: the Cowboy Yes, I do remember because and what was
Speaker 1: it forty seven to maybe or something?
Speaker 5: But it does have more experience.
Speaker 1: Well, he has more experience in college, and he has
Speaker 1: more experience in the NFL.
Speaker 5: So while you think they were going with de Vito, well.
Speaker 1: You answered that question. You went from the starter to
Speaker 1: the third guy and skipped over the backup. Maybe they
Speaker 1: didn't trust their offensive line and figured de Vito can
Speaker 1: run around a lot.
Speaker 5: Andrew Drew is not there.
Speaker 1: He's a stationary pocket cornerback.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Are you suggesting that they are trying to raise their
Speaker 4: draft profile.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything like that. I just said he
Speaker 1: was listed as the backup quarterback all year.
Speaker 4: You can read into though they're in love with Quinn
Speaker 4: yours O Shador Sanders?
Speaker 1: Who else? Uh?
Speaker 4: You got Miami cam Ward.
Speaker 6: Whatever you do, I just like Chicago. Whatever you do,
Speaker 6: it's just like Chicago. You better get an offensive line. Yep,
Speaker 6: that's just all it is to it. You can sign
Speaker 6: all the quarterbacks you want. If your old line ain't ready,
Speaker 6: then I'm sorry you're wasting your time. I wouldn't even
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even suggest you come to my team if
Speaker 6: we weren't ready for you or ready to play it.
Speaker 4: So to review Drew Locke's work and why Mickey is
Speaker 4: so afraid to face Drew Locke tomorrow in the NFL. Okay,
Speaker 4: he got into the game of the day one pass,
Speaker 4: but this season he's four out of nine for nine
Speaker 4: yards in Seattle. Last year, four games, two starts, he
Speaker 4: passed for five hundred and forty three yards, three interceptions,
Speaker 4: three touchdowns. Of course, he went over there in the
Speaker 4: trade with Denver and after they acquired Russell Wilson, and
Speaker 4: in his last year in Denver six games, three starts.
Speaker 4: He did have one season where he was essentially the
Speaker 4: starting quarterback in Denver thirteen starts, went four and nine
Speaker 4: and led the league with fifteen interceptions. That was in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, the whole COVID year, the COVID year, just
Speaker 4: like the Cowboys. We've expunged that year from the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Record book to look up his college number.
Speaker 4: Okay, now we've got to go back to his college
Speaker 4: stats just to get you up to speed on Drew Locke.
Speaker 4: Kay is last ye year at Missoo. He started thirteen games,
Speaker 4: passed for thirty five hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns and
Speaker 4: eight interceptions. He regressed his last year because he is
Speaker 4: second to last year there. He passed for four thousand
Speaker 4: yards forty four touchdowns thirteen interceptions. Sounds like he will
Speaker 4: throw it around the lot.
Speaker 1: He'll try to fit it in there. Plus he was
Speaker 1: being recruited out of high school as a basketball player.
Speaker 1: Anything else you need to know about Drew Locke?
Speaker 4: Second round pick of the Broncos in twenty nineteen, number
Speaker 4: forty two overall, six four, two hundred and twenty five
Speaker 4: pound Drew Locke expected to make the start for the
Speaker 4: Giants against the Cowboys tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's a lock.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a lock.
Speaker 5: I like that, all right?
Speaker 4: What else you got on the Cowboys injury front?
Speaker 1: Ah, it's extensive.
Speaker 4: But who's going to play? Let's project. I think we're
Speaker 4: gonna have another injury practice reported this afternoon.
Speaker 1: Get it at three o'clock. And you also should get
Speaker 1: any roster moves. They have to do it by three
Speaker 1: o'clock today.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: So Tyler Smith, who missed the last game ankle needs
Speaker 1: been limited all week. I think he's got a really
Speaker 1: good chance to play. Awesome Richards will be out. Zach
Speaker 1: Martin has not done anything this week. Ankle, shoulder, actually
Speaker 1: both ankles and a shoulder. I think he may be
Speaker 1: hard pressed to play. I think Hunter Lipke's good to go.
Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb was limited, he says he's good to go.
Speaker 1: Marshawn Kneelan he got back in and he suffered a
Speaker 1: knee problem. I don't know about him.
Speaker 4: So that's why yesterday he d n P yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Eric Kendricks has not practiced this week. That's
Speaker 1: happened before and he's played, although one other time he didn't.
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson probably still in concussion protocol. Trayvon Diggs went
Speaker 1: from limited to DNP, and Kayln Carson showed up did
Speaker 1: not practice. So I don't know about those two guys.
Speaker 1: Because Digs didn't play last week, it looked like he
Speaker 1: was going to be good to go, and now he dnpede.
Speaker 4: Well, you're going to start your team captain at cornerback, right,
Speaker 4: Josh Butler, Well.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. Well, you would think
Speaker 1: so in some form or fashion. Right. All I know
Speaker 1: is Diggs was limited last week and didn't make the trip.
Speaker 1: Limited guys usually go.
Speaker 4: What concerns you the most about the New York Football
Speaker 4: Giants coming in here?
Speaker 1: I was going to look that up before the show
Speaker 1: to see if their defense that was vaunted going into
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 5: Is still.
Speaker 4: That they did get to Thibodeau back last week.
Speaker 1: I saw that he was doing commercials on TV too.
Speaker 1: So they've lost sixth straight. They've given up seventeen, twenty eight,
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven, twenty in overtime, and then thirty
Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay last week.
Speaker 4: Malik Neighbors is always a concern. Yes, he is.
Speaker 1: Question there, but so is the guy leading the rookie
Speaker 1: running backs this year rushing really Tyrone Tracy. I heard that.
Speaker 1: I trusted it, but he was the leading rusher among
Speaker 1: rookie running backs this year.
Speaker 5: Well, it's not like we're at the Upper Echelona football
Speaker 5: teams right now.
Speaker 4: Anybody it comes in here.
Speaker 6: Running back, I'm concerned about him. Anytime someone has a
Speaker 6: running game, you know he's staying at home.
Speaker 1: Tracy has run for five hundred and eighty seven yards.
Speaker 6: And Rico is really running the ball well, really impressed
Speaker 6: with his determination.
Speaker 1: The next rookie is five seventy nine Irving Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4: Bucky Irving.
Speaker 5: O Oh wait, wait what Bucky Irving is what the Giants?
Speaker 4: No, No, he's looking at the league leaders.
Speaker 5: He was doing well at Tampa.
Speaker 1: I did say Tampa Bay, by the way he did.
Speaker 1: And then it's Williams quarterback Chicago, three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: nine yards. That's not what you want to see.
Speaker 4: By the way, we talk about CD leading the league
Speaker 4: with seventy seven receptions, Malik neighbors the rookie out of
Speaker 4: LSU sixty seven receptions and he's got the same yards
Speaker 4: per reception that CD has. He's ten yards of reception,
Speaker 4: three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So look, what scares you about the Giants is the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If they do not play exactly, they start turning the
Speaker 1: ball over, making mistakes. I mean, and the mister.
Speaker 4: Lawrence has nine sacks interior, That's.
Speaker 1: What I was saying thinking of him. Uh, he's a
Speaker 1: load and he's going to be up against one of
Speaker 1: potentially one of those young guards. Right, if Martin doesn't
Speaker 1: go natean Frisco with his cowboy beanie on, he's leading
Speaker 1: the tour, right, the tour is following.
Speaker 4: Fans in town for Thanksgiving, stacked out in their cowboys gear.
Speaker 1: Now, don't get distracted by the tour. Lose your concentration. Boy,
Speaker 1: they're still coming to look at her because.
Speaker 4: The Nate just colding court with him right now.
Speaker 5: I think they know our resume.
Speaker 1: Do they have to pay extra for Nate being on
Speaker 1: the tour?
Speaker 5: We have to we have to wave. We think we
Speaker 5: have to wave because he's back.
Speaker 4: Wave.
Speaker 5: There you go, there you go?
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, it might be time for a break.
Speaker 4: We got it.
Speaker 5: Oh where you please go? Leave?
Speaker 4: Alton Schultz would be having a set right now.
Speaker 1: Can't lift weight with.
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Speaker 4: Final few minutes here of mixed shots as we get
Speaker 4: you ready for Thanksgiving Day Cowboys and Giants a three
Speaker 4: thirty kickoff. Mickey is pouring over his stat sheet right
Speaker 4: now and has something he wants to illuminate us on right.
Speaker 1: Three rushing touchdowns for the season, one in the opener
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. For the Cowboys, it was Zeke one
Speaker 1: against Baltimore and then one against San Francisco.
Speaker 5: That's it, all right.
Speaker 4: Here's the most amazing stat that I have come up
Speaker 4: with on this game.
Speaker 1: Make sure it's an NFL stat.
Speaker 4: Okay, the Giants. This has to do with the Giants defense.
Speaker 4: What's the most stat about their defense? As what's their record?
Speaker 4: They are two and nine and played eleven games, Everson,
Speaker 4: how many interceptions do the Giants have on defense? How
Speaker 4: many interceptions does the Giants defense have?
Speaker 5: Two?
Speaker 4: They've got one?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: One pick in eleven games. It's a linebacker, Darius mouiside.
Speaker 4: It's a linebacker Darius muisow.
Speaker 5: I bet it was tipped. I can't see him floating right.
Speaker 4: Rookie, rookie, sixth round draft pick muisou.
Speaker 1: And he didn't do it on the run because he
Speaker 1: gained one yard.
Speaker 4: Let's see his game log here. It occurred. It occurred
Speaker 4: in the season opener against Minnesota. They have not had
Speaker 4: an interception since the season open games. Ten straight, ten
Speaker 4: straight games without an interception. That's got to be that way.
Speaker 1: How many many the Cowboys have?
Speaker 4: We actually had more.
Speaker 1: We had more than was options that got more interception
Speaker 1: we got.
Speaker 4: We got as many Cowboys have as many interceptions. On
Speaker 4: the last play they were on the field. That is
Speaker 4: what the Giants have all season because mcwamu had the
Speaker 4: pick of the hell Mary. Yes, so there take that.
Speaker 5: So we have two hell Mary interceptions Cowboys have.
Speaker 1: Booker had one eight interceptions, and then that's try dig
Speaker 1: still leads with two.
Speaker 4: Oh that's too good, like saying good, because that's what
Speaker 4: you're saying to Ely has two. That keeps you farther
Speaker 4: away from your record. No, I want.
Speaker 5: I want the guy that's chasing me to lead, to
Speaker 5: be the leader I don't want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like he's like the dolphin with the undefeated scene.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but I pulled for him, you know,
Speaker 5: I polled.
Speaker 4: For Okay, watch the your greatest Thanksgiving Day memory? Oh wow,
Speaker 4: try to make it cowboy related, of course.
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, it's so funny because we were so successful.
Speaker 6: I remember really the negative actually that was all that
Speaker 6: can be. Great memory not a memory, but it is
Speaker 6: a memory of Craig James.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He used to live behind me, uh back in the
Speaker 6: day when we first before he had to move out
Speaker 6: of town.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they chased him my town.
Speaker 1: He let out the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: He did with the Patriots, Yes, he did.
Speaker 5: Man I'll never forget that game.
Speaker 6: We were supposed to win it, and it was one
Speaker 6: of those games where we sleepwalking but with you know,
Speaker 6: with the favorites, and was supposed to win. And I
Speaker 6: recall he broke a run on us for about thirty
Speaker 6: plus yards to Iceter game, and that kind of upset
Speaker 6: me because you know, uh, he had already they had
Speaker 6: already kind of solid my memory on college football when
Speaker 6: they beat the beat Grambling.
Speaker 4: So you played Grambling?
Speaker 5: Yes, they did, of course the year that I left.
Speaker 1: So he was with New England at the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he would have been New England.
Speaker 1: But well, I'm trying to see eighty six eight.
Speaker 4: They went to the Super Bowl in eighty six.
Speaker 1: Seattle played Seattle.
Speaker 2: Prior to that.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys won six straight on Thanksgiving. Then they lost
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, Houston, Philadelphia. So does this show that It
Speaker 1: doesn't show New England New England. Maybe it was a
Speaker 1: regular season game.
Speaker 6: No, we'll figure that. I promise that that that's that happened.
Speaker 6: That's a Thanksgiving game Thanksgiving. Maybe it was around the
Speaker 6: game before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: Start together, it was Christmas bottling them together? All right, Mickey,
Speaker 4: do you have one? There was an overtime game in
Speaker 4: November of eighty seven against the Patriots. It was it
Speaker 4: was at New England though, that was that one that
Speaker 4: Herschel broke it?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, hmmm, so you thought it was eighty six.
Speaker 4: Thought it might be easier just to look up Craig
Speaker 4: James and see what do you scoring?
Speaker 5: I mean, the show, slow up, the show here. It
Speaker 5: was already said, I'm okay with not finding it.
Speaker 4: You know, Mickey, do you have one?
Speaker 5: Hang up?
Speaker 4: I need a memory, Mickey, I need a memory from you.
Speaker 1: How about.
Speaker 5: Back up?
Speaker 1: No third string quarterback Jason Garrett being the Packers in ninety.
Speaker 4: Four, thirty years ago, thirty years ago, Jason Garrett forty
Speaker 4: two thirty one. It was the day.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'll tell you in the second.
Speaker 4: Nomber twenty second, nineteen November twenty fourth.
Speaker 5: There we go.
Speaker 4: We might have it. We might have it here. Look
Speaker 4: at nineteen eighty four. Oh was that Thanksgiving?
Speaker 5: What are you looking at?
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four Dallas over New England twenty seventeen in Thanksgiving? Yes,
Speaker 1: there it is.
Speaker 4: You haven't lost your minds.
Speaker 1: I thought we lost, but you said you thought you lost. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you won.
Speaker 4: Twenty thirteen Craig James ran nineteen times for one hundred
Speaker 4: and twelve yards two catches.
Speaker 5: Was successful. What pissed me? That's right, what it was?
Speaker 4: Why we did what we did that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the white Rhino.
Speaker 4: You're still mad grambling, and that's right.
Speaker 6: He's still running over us. He's still running over my defense,
Speaker 6: all right.
Speaker 4: Time that was four eighty four, all right, so that
Speaker 4: was forty So you decided thirty years ago, nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 4: your memories from forty years ago, nineteen eighty four. Now
Speaker 4: give me your pick and your picks to click.
Speaker 6: My pick, of course, is the Cowboys winning the game.
Speaker 6: But before I start with that, I need redemption for
Speaker 6: my defense.
Speaker 5: I really do. I need them to play as well
Speaker 5: as they did in that first half.
Speaker 6: I need them to continue that throughout the entire game,
Speaker 6: because as I looked in the second half, there were
Speaker 6: some players that were open.
Speaker 5: I just don't know what the heck Daniels was doing.
Speaker 5: For some reason, he was not accurate in that game.
Speaker 6: Pressure on him, and I would imagine he was feeling
Speaker 6: you know, you say, seeing ghosts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was seeing ghosts back there.
Speaker 6: So I want to make sure our defense continues to allow,
Speaker 6: especially with the Lot coming in here for that Missouri boy.
Speaker 1: Where he is, That's right, I know where he is
Speaker 1: stand in the pocket.
Speaker 6: I am looking for my defense to control the game.
Speaker 6: Uh oci oh diggae zuoa very well. I look for
Speaker 6: to get at least one sack because he knows.
Speaker 5: What Drew Like is gonna be. Drew Lot is gonna be.
Speaker 5: So I look for that.
Speaker 6: Cowboys gonna win. I think we should handle them pretty well.
Speaker 6: I look at twenty eight to thirteen.
Speaker 4: Twenty eight thirteen Cowboy victory.
Speaker 1: And by the way, so Daniels got sacked four times
Speaker 1: and had eight quarterback hits.
Speaker 5: Ah, no, wonder he was he was He was suffered
Speaker 5: from that that that disease.
Speaker 1: He was a little SKITTI shoot podcast, right, I get it,
Speaker 1: I'm next.
Speaker 4: Yees sure, Oh every week we do this.
Speaker 5: Every week.
Speaker 1: It's the same twenty seven ten Okay, and watch out
Speaker 1: for rico'donnald one hundred yard performed finally one hundred yard yes,
Speaker 1: and two rushing touchdownsne about that? Wow? Almost double the
Speaker 1: Pretty soon you guys are going to make me quit
Speaker 1: picking cat Turpin right, hey, but.
Speaker 6: That that's always a good pick, right. We put him
Speaker 6: in that Michael play.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid after Sunday they ain't kicking to him. It's
Speaker 1: going to be touch back, touched because they tried to
Speaker 1: get fancy kicking short to and making it hard to handle,
Speaker 1: which he bumbled around. But that was on purpose. That
Speaker 1: wasn't that was planned.
Speaker 4: He bumbled around on purpose, bumbled the ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, I know what I'm going to do here,
Speaker 1: all right, And he was I told you that's Monday, right.
Speaker 1: He said he was familiar with yes because he was
Speaker 1: like them at Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a teammate. And by the way, he
Speaker 4: went on injured reserve yesterday.
Speaker 1: Saw that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was doing the game.
Speaker 1: Whod they what if he got hurt trying to tackle?
Speaker 1: Try to tell he might have pulled a hamstring because
Speaker 1: he wasn't catch it up. It was like that card
Speaker 1: that passed me today. I looked at messpanometer. I was
Speaker 1: going eighty on rayboard and this guy just blew he
Speaker 1: was going one hundred. He was going one hundred. I
Speaker 1: swear to god, it.
Speaker 5: Wasn't this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And it wasn't turpid running right.
Speaker 4: Okay, what you got you went to thirty years ago? Yes,
Speaker 4: you went forty years ago. I've got the greatest memory.
Speaker 4: And Cowboys Thanksgiving history fifty years ago tomorrow, fifty years ago, tomorrow,
Speaker 4: November twenty eighth, nineteen seventy four, the mad bomber Clint
Speaker 4: Longley comes off the bench and he throws a touchdown
Speaker 4: past fifty yards to the great Drew Pearson to beat
Speaker 4: Washington twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 5: Good times.
Speaker 1: Exactly more than that he did it.
Speaker 4: More than that he was trailing. They were Cowboys were
Speaker 4: trailing sixteen to three when he came off the bench.
Speaker 1: But that's what I was going to cite, his rookie debut.
Speaker 4: It was rookie debut.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, taking a snap in the NFL.
Speaker 4: The triumph of the uncluttered mind. That's Blaine Knight put it.
Speaker 4: And exactly fifty years later tomorrow, November twenty eighth, twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four.
Speaker 1: I just read the story in our book of the
Speaker 1: Cowboy Redskin Rivalry, and one of the quotes from Roger was, yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes. I used to sit next to him on
Speaker 1: the plane and we'd be I'd be looking at my
Speaker 1: playbook and every studying stuff, and I'd look over at Clinton.
Speaker 1: He goes, he was just sitting there doing nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, they weren't fans of each other though.
Speaker 1: Yeah you ready for my pick yo?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly fifty years later, it's the Tray Lance package.
Speaker 4: Trey Lance comes off the bench to hit another number
Speaker 4: eighty eight seed, the Lamb with a fifty yard touchdown
Speaker 4: pass as the Cowboys beat the Giants twenty four to
Speaker 4: twenty three.
Speaker 5: It can't be that close, bro. We don't want it that,
Speaker 5: you know what. We don't want it that.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be eliminated from Pitts.
Speaker 4: He comes up, who was right last week?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 5: I was almost right last week?
Speaker 4: Who was the one that told you about is the
Speaker 4: one that told you about Steve Berline last week? And
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush leads them to a victory, same score.
Speaker 6: And you're the same guy that wanted me going out
Speaker 6: there and meeting them at the airport too?
Speaker 4: Well? That was that was Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 5: That was the San Francisco either way he's talking about just.
Speaker 1: When you do your pregame show, you say the same thing.
Speaker 4: All right, was Trey Lance.
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