Speaker 1: Good. I know you don't want to talk about baseball. UM, Well,
Speaker 1: every week it's a little bit different. It's a little
Speaker 1: bit different package for us. Malcolm Jenkins had played the slot.
Speaker 1: There's played a lot of slot. UM. Jayalen had played
Speaker 1: slot against Dallas, and some of it has to do
Speaker 1: with matchups. Another one has to do with, you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to manage everything. I thought to go away
Speaker 1: from Jayalen for a second. I thought that Malcolm did
Speaker 1: a good job on their tight ends and in the
Speaker 1: first game we played their tight ends even when Reid
Speaker 1: didn't play. UM, Davis made a bunch of plays in
Speaker 1: that game, and I think their tight ends had two
Speaker 1: catches and didn't really make a ton of plays. And
Speaker 1: that game a lot of that had to do with
Speaker 1: Malcolm being able to play that UM. You know, Jayalen
Speaker 1: did some good things, but probably like our defense, the
Speaker 1: plays we didn't make didn't make up for the plays
Speaker 1: we did. And there's a lot of plays that he
Speaker 1: played really good tight coverage and and did a really
Speaker 1: good job on a really good player. Crowder. Crowder is
Speaker 1: going to get some respect for the Pro Bowl voting.
Speaker 1: What's going on because he's he's really a tough matchup
Speaker 1: in there. But you know when it came time to
Speaker 1: make that play. We gave up that one in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And you know, for us, we get a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter lead, we got to hold onto it. That's
Speaker 1: our job. We can't blame anybody for ourselves to all,
Speaker 1: but Jalen was no different than Leo or Nolan in
Speaker 1: that way. Both of the all three of those guys
Speaker 1: made some plays, but the play they didn't make didn't
Speaker 1: make up for the ones that they did. How much
Speaker 1: of it to shore that? Are they next plays? It's
Speaker 1: like the big plays you mean, yeah, the plays? Um well,
Speaker 1: I think that was the tale of this game. It
Speaker 1: was good to see us. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: we can't judge ourselves on anything other than winning or
Speaker 1: losing the game, and we got to make sure that
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. Stats don't mean anything. Wins or losses
Speaker 1: mean something. We didn't do enough to win the game.
Speaker 1: It was good to see us get back to doing
Speaker 1: and some of the things that help us be successful.
Speaker 1: Third down, I mean, the only two third down conversions
Speaker 1: we gave up, we're third and one, third and two,
Speaker 1: which are tough getting turned over and getting getting on
Speaker 1: the scoreboard there and getting some pressure on the passer.
Speaker 1: But you know, eight yard touchdown, touchdown when it's second
Speaker 1: and goal from the fifteen, and I got to help No.
Speaker 1: One out better with that call, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: his second and goal from the fifteen and we feel like, okay,
Speaker 1: now you've got a good chance to hold him to
Speaker 1: a field goal there. And I played an aggressive defense there,
Speaker 1: and you know, and sometimes when you try to stop everything,
Speaker 1: you set those guys up, and I can help him
Speaker 1: either play a little softer coverage there, give up five
Speaker 1: or ten yards and get him the third down, or
Speaker 1: maybe even go more aggressive and all outplits and you know,
Speaker 1: if they feel quick on a all outlets, but I
Speaker 1: can help him out there. Run game was the same way.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought after getting gash in the run
Speaker 1: game in the opener, thought we did a good job
Speaker 1: handling the run game with the exception of a couple
Speaker 1: of plays. So unfortunately you can't wipe those plays off.
Speaker 1: And we didn't play consistent enough from start to finish
Speaker 1: to come out on the right side of that. And
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's on us. You had six defensive
Speaker 1: ends up five that played yeah, really had four eight snaps.
Speaker 1: I think it was so yeah. I think even those,
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a couple off sides penalties, so
Speaker 1: I don't really count anyway. What was the reasoning for
Speaker 1: having so many? Well, well, first Brayman, even though he's
Speaker 1: listed as a defensive end, his role in the team
Speaker 1: is really special teams. But taken five in is is
Speaker 1: still a lot of guys. And if we if the
Speaker 1: game had gone different and we played seventy five plays,
Speaker 1: you know, that would have been a good thing. But
Speaker 1: we thought that Stephen Means could give us a boost,
Speaker 1: and we made a commitment to get him some reps.
Speaker 1: He plays with toughness, made a couple of plays in
Speaker 1: the run game in his limited in his limited role,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna try to find every way we can
Speaker 1: to affect that game, and we thought he could give
Speaker 1: us a boot. He made a couple of plays in
Speaker 1: that game, and it hurt a couple other guys as
Speaker 1: far as playtime, but um, you know, I mean it
Speaker 1: is what it is. When the game ended up that way,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think you said forty eight plays.
Speaker 1: I think greatable plays we had like forty five, you know,
Speaker 1: because you don all sides play from the offense or
Speaker 1: false start you really can't grade or does kneel down
Speaker 1: plays they really don't count. Um, So it could have
Speaker 1: worked different, But you know, I think that sometimes, um,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes sometimes it doesn't work out the wage plan.
Speaker 1: But the idea behind it was that we thought that
Speaker 1: Steven could give us a little bit of a boost
Speaker 1: and going forward, we'll look at that every week and
Speaker 1: it's no different than any other position affected. Was connor
Speaker 1: snaps decreased? You know? He um, you know, he's been
Speaker 1: playing a lot, but you know, I know you don't
Speaker 1: judge by numbers, et cetera, But it seems that Connor
Speaker 1: has kind of lost some of his effectiveness that we're
Speaker 1: SA three four. He's able to do a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: He's a very versatile player, but playing downhill maybe it
Speaker 1: doesn't play to some of his skill sets. Do you
Speaker 1: do you agree with that that premise and what it
Speaker 1: would have been the reasons then for some of the struggles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I wouldn't even call him struggling.
Speaker 1: I think that he's gone sort of the way the
Speaker 1: defense has um, you know, and I think both of
Speaker 1: those sort of go hand in hand. As the defense
Speaker 1: has been struggling, we haven't had It's it's hard to
Speaker 1: feel good about your production when we're not getting any sacks,
Speaker 1: or it's hard to feel good about production when we're
Speaker 1: not doing a good job on third down. Connor has
Speaker 1: been a consistent player for a long time in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I do think that the fresher we can keep him,
Speaker 1: the better chance he has to be productive. And hopefully
Speaker 1: this can this can help that season. If you thought
Speaker 1: of maybe trying to find different ways again Michael Kendricks
Speaker 1: on the field, or do you just kind of view
Speaker 1: him as a linebacker against bigger packages? Now we we've
Speaker 1: I mean, he's heviously in our goal line, he's in
Speaker 1: our short yardage, and he's in our base package, and
Speaker 1: we actually and we have a third down package that
Speaker 1: he's in. It's not it's something we don't use very much.
Speaker 1: We use it one or two times a game. This
Speaker 1: last game we didn't use it at all. But again,
Speaker 1: it falls a little bit to the way the offense
Speaker 1: wants to play and sometimes you run out of snaps.
Speaker 1: But it has nothing to do with him. He's been
Speaker 1: he's been productive in his role he's played good, consistent
Speaker 1: football for US. Um, you know, I think that it's
Speaker 1: just this sort of the way it's gone. We've also
Speaker 1: stayed really healthy at linebacker. You know, in this game,
Speaker 1: I also tried to get Telica series. He got two snaps.
Speaker 1: But a little bit like Stephen means, he brings us something,
Speaker 1: He brings us a little bit of you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit of energy, and um, Jordan's just been playing
Speaker 1: at such a high level, it's been hard to get
Speaker 1: to that. We wanted to sort of take the same
Speaker 1: approach and get Tully some series in there to keep
Speaker 1: Jordan fresh, but he was playing at such a high
Speaker 1: level anyway. Um, we stayed pretty healthy at linebacker and
Speaker 1: hopefully we can keep that up. Two quick ones on
Speaker 1: one that the Shawan touchdown was was Leo supposed to
Speaker 1: have any kind of help in that situation? And also
Speaker 1: is there a teaching point for from a cloud on
Speaker 1: that play? Looked like maybe he started letting up when
Speaker 1: the ball is still near. Yeah, you know the help
Speaker 1: that comes from that. It's a cover four coverage, so
Speaker 1: basically you're four across the board and everybody's the way
Speaker 1: they ran the route. They ate up all the other guys,
Speaker 1: and you know, I thought that looking at it on
Speaker 1: the field when we have our pictures and then saying it,
Speaker 1: Leo's in good shape early in that route. He was
Speaker 1: just in bad shape late. And that's a that's a
Speaker 1: play that you know, we talk all the time about
Speaker 1: times you can be aggressive and times you can't, and
Speaker 1: that's one of those ones. Just get over the top.
Speaker 1: He's sort of you know last time, and again he was.
Speaker 1: He was in good position early the Shaun's fast and
Speaker 1: took over it. Um the way Rodney was playing on
Speaker 1: the backside, he has the vertical of number three. If
Speaker 1: he tries to overlap Leo, he's to give that up.
Speaker 1: So there's times that Rodney needs to be able to
Speaker 1: make those plays like Um Jaywen's play. That's his responsibility.
Speaker 1: Jay One needs to be a little bit more outside
Speaker 1: on it. But when that guy tries to go down
Speaker 1: the scene, that guy's got to have contact when it's hit.
Speaker 1: That's more the free safety. He wasn't out of position,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a lack of every finished the way
Speaker 1: that he finished the play. Though I wasn't okay with
Speaker 1: anything about those plays from from this end, and nothing
Speaker 1: to do with him. Um, anytime the ball goes over
Speaker 1: your head, you gotta find a way to get a
Speaker 1: guy on the ground, whether it's Leo, whether it's Rodney,
Speaker 1: whether it's wanted a defensive lineman, even though God knows
Speaker 1: they wouldn't made it that far down there. Um, we
Speaker 1: gotta give ourselves a chance to make another play, you know,
Speaker 1: hold hold him to a you know, hold him to
Speaker 1: a field goal attempt there or something like that. And
Speaker 1: you know, again that's that's sort of my disappointment on
Speaker 1: the second and goal from the fifteen, you know. And
Speaker 1: I look at myself first as a play car. I mean, sure,
Speaker 1: no one's technique can be a little bit better and
Speaker 1: things like that, But um, I can help him with
Speaker 1: a play call, and I could probably help I could
Speaker 1: probably help the defense with a little different play call there.
Speaker 1: What about the way deal played over and he had
Speaker 1: the pick six? You know, the four past bread books there.
Speaker 1: A lot of plays doesn't make up for the ones
Speaker 1: we gave up. Um, you know, I mean we got
Speaker 1: to score, and we got a score our lead in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Man, I'd swap any of those for
Speaker 1: knocking that ball down on fourth and one. You know,
Speaker 1: and he was right there, Harry, play great coverage and
Speaker 1: you know they made One's hard to stop everything when
Speaker 1: it's when it's fourth and one. Um, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of life as an NFL corner. You're gonna give up
Speaker 1: some plays. We just can't make him an eighty yard play.
Speaker 1: Like I said, if at sixty we get him on
Speaker 1: the ground, Um, we got a chance to make another play.
Speaker 1: Can you kind of quickly walk us through wood? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well the second one. The second one, we were really
Speaker 1: aggressive to try to throw it for a loss, knowing that, Um,
Speaker 1: we couldn't just bleed out at that point. We had
Speaker 1: to do something. We we had to get aggressive. It
Speaker 1: was you know, it was a blitz and it's going
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of an all or nothing
Speaker 1: when it comes to that, which at that point I
Speaker 1: honestly was sort of okay, because if we can knock
Speaker 1: him for a lost yardage to play and make it
Speaker 1: a longer field goal, Um, you know, put him in
Speaker 1: a tough position, that's good. If not the best thing
Speaker 1: in that situation was give up a score. Now, we
Speaker 1: were not trying to give up a score there. We
Speaker 1: didn't step aside. We were trying to make it for
Speaker 1: a loss, but a little bit like goal line. You
Speaker 1: know how many times you see or running back across
Speaker 1: the goal line go untouched and you're like, Jesus, it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen on first and second now when it's the
Speaker 1: reason is you're so aggressive to stop that six inch
Speaker 1: that if he does break it, then it's there. A
Speaker 1: little bit of the same thing. First one was disappointing. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we just we we didn't. We didn't. We
Speaker 1: were sort of um, I don't know. We had too
Speaker 1: many guys tried to make the play rather than do
Speaker 1: their job in the defense. And that's one of the
Speaker 1: things we talk about ardent against when you're struggling, when
Speaker 1: you're pressing. I went through way too long a die
Speaker 1: a tribe about being in a slump and you know
Speaker 1: baseball players and how they get out of it. We
Speaker 1: were guilty of that on that play. Too many guys
Speaker 1: tried to make the play rather than just trusting their
Speaker 1: technique and trust in their job, and um, as a result,
Speaker 1: we paid for with a touchdown. One of the best
Speaker 1: things he does is blitz and we do agree with
Speaker 1: that first of all, and then secondly, he's only rushed
Speaker 1: the passer I think I like seven times this year.
Speaker 1: Is there are ways you can get him more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he does rush well. He is a good blitzer. Um.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 1: times that he's in there when they were when he
Speaker 1: was in there, when they were in their two tight
Speaker 1: end package. A lot of that's max protection. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's blitz another guy in max protection. You're going
Speaker 1: to isolate your corners a little bit more. Um. Every
Speaker 1: game is a little bit different with him. But he
Speaker 1: is a good blitzer. And when when we've been able
Speaker 1: to get that and um and complete the coverage behind him,
Speaker 1: he's been effective there. But he doesn't stand alone. He
Speaker 1: can have a great pass rush and if our matchups
Speaker 1: bad outside or we don't cover the guy long enough,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make a difference. You don't measure pass rush
Speaker 1: solely by sacks. Where do you feel like you guys
Speaker 1: are as far as the pass wars scers, You know,
Speaker 1: it depends on so many things. Depends on the score obviously. UM.
Speaker 1: You know you're always going to rush better when you
Speaker 1: have an opponent that's trying to catch up in a game. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes if third down. If you can force
Speaker 1: a quarterback to check the ball down and then not
Speaker 1: be able to hold it long enough, you've done your
Speaker 1: job there. Also, I don't know, I mean we've We
Speaker 1: obviously went through a long time where we were struggling
Speaker 1: to get sacks in this game. I thought our pressure
Speaker 1: was more effective. Wasn't good enough to win the game? Now?
Speaker 1: And you know there are times that you know that, Um,
Speaker 1: like late in that game, the third and one play
Speaker 1: right before the fourth fourth down play that we gave
Speaker 1: up to kept that drive alive. Um, we did get
Speaker 1: good pressure on that quarterback through the ball way Jordan Um,
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks was on a blitz. Connor was free on
Speaker 1: the outside. Um, you know forced that second time they
Speaker 1: throw on three steps. It didn't matter if you had
Speaker 1: a good brush or not. Goodmarn't going to get there. Um.
Speaker 1: You know you got to be careful with judging it
Speaker 1: only on sacks, but sacks to affect the game. We
Speaker 1: saw on the other side of the ball, there's such
Speaker 1: a high incident of turnover when you sat quarterbacks, and
Speaker 1: that's why we put such an emphasis on it. Not
Speaker 1: only do you stop drives and get them for lost
Speaker 1: yardage plays. But there is a high incident of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: either getting tip balls or throwing when they're getting hit
Speaker 1: and you get interceptions or fumbling, and those are the
Speaker 1: plays that we've been missing, and we got to get
Speaker 1: back to those backfield season. Terrence defense a little well.
Speaker 1: Terrence is a guy that's in our um rotation. He
Speaker 1: hasn't had to play defense this year. But pi'sa say
Speaker 1: force and he can go in and play those positions.
Speaker 1: He could be He's even taking some reps at Nickel
Speaker 1: Force and he could go in and play that. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. In a pinch he couldn't at
Speaker 1: least line up at corner and be able to do that. Um.
Speaker 1: So hopefully Jay one will be out with joy one
Speaker 1: Watkins will be able to um, you know, push through
Speaker 1: that and be able to play. But if not, then UM.
Speaker 1: You know, Terrence is a guy that we have trust
Speaker 1: in and we'll put him in there. Um. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: know they struggled with their offensive line early. You know,
Speaker 1: they started off the season. They had a couple of
Speaker 1: close wins. You know, they were down like twenty to
Speaker 1: nothing of Cleveland and came back and won that game.
Speaker 1: They won a close game over Jacksonville. They won a
Speaker 1: close game over I mean close, yeah, close game over Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: close game over Cleveland. Ums, what was the other one?
Speaker 1: They had another one early in the season that um
Speaker 1: you know that that they that they want and they
Speaker 1: lost four games in a row. They had a revolving
Speaker 1: door at their offen line. Um, you know, and I
Speaker 1: think that that obviously affected him. They settled down their
Speaker 1: offensive line lately and that's gone a long way to him.
Speaker 1: He's he's a hard guy to knock off schedule. He's
Speaker 1: really a level headed quarterback. He doesn't make a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes. Um you know, if you give him enough time,
Speaker 1: he can he can throw good, strong, accurate passers. Even
Speaker 1: though he's coming off to knee injury. Um, he's still
Speaker 1: a threat to Scrambley, sneaky that way, Still still a
Speaker 1: threat to run, Still a threat to Scramble. A lot
Speaker 1: of respect for that guy. That guy's won super Bowls
Speaker 1: and he's made a lot of plays and nothing's the
Speaker 1: game's never out of I don't know, too big is
Speaker 1: in a good word. I'm gonna trying to think of
Speaker 1: a good adjective to use for that. But, um, the
Speaker 1: games the game's never over his head. Maybe, I guess
Speaker 1: you'd say, Um, I think I've heard it before. Um,
Speaker 1: his nickname Joe Cool. I think you can see that
Speaker 1: in the way that he plays. Um. So what do
Speaker 1: you get from a Marty morning Wig offense? What do
Speaker 1: you expect from well, you know, that's another one. It's
Speaker 1: been about half the season um, that they've that they've used.
Speaker 1: They use a lot of different players and use them
Speaker 1: in a lot of different roles. They don't rely on
Speaker 1: just one guy, whether it's a running back, whether it's
Speaker 1: one tight end, whether it's one wide receiver. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of different formations, a lot of different personnel groups,
Speaker 1: a lot of personnel groups within the personnel groups. You know,
Speaker 1: just because you have two tight ends on the field,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's the only time they have two tight
Speaker 1: ends on the field. UM. So I think, um, that
Speaker 1: ability to match up in those physical matchups is a
Speaker 1: big part of what they do offensively. And then again,
Speaker 1: having a trigger man that can that can make those
Speaker 1: plays and get them back in that game. At that
Speaker 1: game wasn't going well for them. Early in that game,
Speaker 1: they had a chance to go down twenty three nothing
Speaker 1: and next thing. You know, they're pulling it close at
Speaker 1: the end. A lot of that has to do with
Speaker 1: that quarterback and his ability put those bad plays behind
Speaker 1: him and still make his own Jim, can you you
Speaker 1: mentioned Jordan Hicks earlier. Can you elaborate on what you've
Speaker 1: seen from him through thirteen games. He's been playing at
Speaker 1: a high level for US this year, playing good against
Speaker 1: Iran and has been playing well against the pass. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot on his table or a lot on
Speaker 1: his plate when it comes to making adjustments, making checks.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of calls that are double calls.
Speaker 1: It's one call versus one thing, it's another versus something else.
Speaker 1: Does a good job with all that stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's been a good consistent player for US
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, all right, guys,