Speaker 1: October seventeen, two thousand and four, Fenway Park, Boston, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: The Red Sox are down to the Yankee three, game
Speaker 1: to zero. Surely nothing can go wrong here. The Curse
Speaker 1: of the Big Bambino is alive and will bottom of
Speaker 1: the twelfth tied four to four. With a two to
Speaker 1: one count, the ball cracks off David o Tay's bat
Speaker 1: deep to right field. It's going, It's going. This is
Speaker 1: the two thousand and four ALCS. Hello and welcome to
Speaker 1: Games with names presented by When Bedtime Julian Edelman. I'm Samuel.
Speaker 1: We're on the search to find the greatest game of
Speaker 1: all time. This one is certainly not it. I have
Speaker 1: to tell you I think this is a great game. Hey,
Speaker 1: I almost what does the ghow up? What game is it?
Speaker 1: I almost didn't show up? What is this game? It's
Speaker 1: the two thousand and four ALCS Red Sox Yankees. We're
Speaker 1: talking game four. They were down three to zero. This
Speaker 1: is the game that kept them alive. God damn it.
Speaker 1: It was in Boston. We're gonna be joined by David
Speaker 1: Ortiz later. I don't like Goortiz, but I respect Ortiz.
Speaker 1: He is a likable player. He is a postseason clutch
Speaker 1: as they come type of guy. We'll talk about what's
Speaker 1: going on in the world in October in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four, we'll take a look back at both of
Speaker 1: these teams in the series as a whole, and we'll
Speaker 1: wrap it up by naming and scoring the game. This
Speaker 1: is a tough one for me. I remember this closely.
Speaker 1: I do too. I was on the West Coast. I was, well,
Speaker 1: we're eighteen right here, yeah, seventeen eighteen yeah, And this
Speaker 1: is kind of my introduction. Really, we were barely legal,
Speaker 1: both of us, barely, but legal, barely barely. There was
Speaker 1: there was grass in the field, so let's play ball
Speaker 1: that and if there's not, you roll around playing them.
Speaker 1: I'm just joking, just an inside fun joke. Yeah, inside
Speaker 1: fun joke. I will say this series pissed me off.
Speaker 1: I it was tough because Yankees fans were I have
Speaker 1: to admit, we were spoiled rodden in the nineties. We
Speaker 1: had four we won what four and five years? It
Speaker 1: was something insane, was ninety six, ninety eight, ninety nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand. So I was aware, obviously of the curse
Speaker 1: of the Bambino. The Red Sox fans were struggling. They
Speaker 1: won in Boston, they won another I mean in you know,
Speaker 1: the Celtics are a dominant franchise, but baseball is different.
Speaker 1: It was very different, and like I was saying, this
Speaker 1: is my introduction really to the Boston New York rivalry.
Speaker 1: This nationwide was huge because you know, we were to
Speaker 1: always talk about back in these days, we could only
Speaker 1: get the broadcast of your really local teams, and this
Speaker 1: was just such a huge game because everyone knew the
Speaker 1: curse of the Great Bambino Babe Ruth trade goes to
Speaker 1: the Yankees, and everyone you know on the West Coast
Speaker 1: didn't really I we hated the Yankees because they were
Speaker 1: always winning. They were they were the cream of the crop,
Speaker 1: they were everything. They it seemed like every year they
Speaker 1: were winning World Series, and so I was a hate
Speaker 1: rafting team. I mean, the ninety six team that won it.
Speaker 1: You think the Yankees is buying up players now, but
Speaker 1: a lot of those dudes were like, we drafted Jeter,
Speaker 1: we drafted Mariano, paul O'Neil, We traded for Bernie, we
Speaker 1: drafted Andy Pettitt. You know, these it felt more homegrown.
Speaker 1: So it was a great time to get into the Yankees.
Speaker 1: My grandfather was a Yankees fan. I'd sit on his
Speaker 1: lap and watch the games astle as a little kid.
Speaker 1: My intro is Don Mattingly, who's like one of the
Speaker 1: coolest athletes ever. They had Wade Bogs, all these mustachioed
Speaker 1: gentlemen just swiping the ball. Such a cool team. But uh,
Speaker 1: I admit we were spoiled. I have to say, as
Speaker 1: you know, like a rugged, tough guy, I didn't know
Speaker 1: the aura between this rivalry and I just always saw,
Speaker 1: you know, the Yankees were clean cut eyes and their
Speaker 1: you know, pinstripes, and then you saw the Boston people
Speaker 1: just tough, dirty, muddy Johnny Damon with this beard, you
Speaker 1: got the captain behind the plate, vera Tech, you got big,
Speaker 1: poppy hitting dingers. And it was just for me, as
Speaker 1: someone that wasn't in this rivalry quite yet, I just
Speaker 1: felt like I was connected to Boston from the very
Speaker 1: begin I understand it. They were the underdog. I have
Speaker 1: to remove my bias here and talk about this as
Speaker 1: a you know, as just a pure sports fan, and
Speaker 1: I'm a Yankees fan, but that Red Sox team it
Speaker 1: was meant to be. I've never seen I mean three
Speaker 1: to zero had never happened in baseball hits. Ever, I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was. I believe I was. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you I got nervous. I didn't. I just no, you didn't.
Speaker 1: I was nervous. You were not nervous. After Game four,
Speaker 1: You're like, I go on, Once they won this game,
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, I didn't think. I thought the
Speaker 1: Yankees would put it away. But you know the momentum,
Speaker 1: the Red Sox are playing with house money, because when
Speaker 1: you're down three to zero, no one expects you to win.
Speaker 1: So I was a little nervous when when there's when
Speaker 1: the pressure is in a weird way off, you can
Speaker 1: really just play your best baseball. And that's what they did,
Speaker 1: and they had. I mean, Jeter was as clutch as
Speaker 1: they come, but for one swing to end a game,
Speaker 1: no one was more clutch than David Ortiz. They just weren't.
Speaker 1: I mean the series before against the Twins in Game seven,
Speaker 1: HiT's a walk off homer. His former team he was,
Speaker 1: he was a twin. What did you call him? He
Speaker 1: was a dented can can he was damaged goods and
Speaker 1: I got him. Do you have what was his name?
Speaker 1: It was? Back then? He was going by David Arias. Arias.
Speaker 1: I think it was his mom's last name, and there
Speaker 1: was a whole switch. Let me look into it here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: respect the mom, but you know we when he got
Speaker 1: to Ortiz, it was like all different. Guy, David Areas
Speaker 1: doesn't sound as cool as Ortiz, just because now that's
Speaker 1: what we know him as. And I love this Yankee team.
Speaker 1: That's what it was tough for me, is like, dude,
Speaker 1: they had my guy, Pasada. I loved Pasada, he was
Speaker 1: I love Catchers. And then on your the Red Sox,
Speaker 1: they had Verita here, tech captain, tough guy, he led
Speaker 1: the team, flag carrier, the team he had a little
Speaker 1: was Pete on here Pedroia. Now yet this is a
Speaker 1: little This is Poe, This is pre pre p d
Speaker 1: Johnny Damon. Yeah, Kurt Schilling with the bloody sock game.
Speaker 1: Fucking hated Shilling. I'm glad he's broke, piece of shit. Eh.
Speaker 1: Fuck that dumb video game investing motherfucker. He'll always have
Speaker 1: the bloody sock on us. But that's all he'll have.
Speaker 1: What if that video game was like Fortnite, he'd be
Speaker 1: laughing at the bank right now. His investment skills were
Speaker 1: not as clutch as postseason skills, that's for sure. And
Speaker 1: did we do? Was it real blood? You know he
Speaker 1: had the blood or was that like ketchup or something?
Speaker 1: I heard there's like some water. See what's going on?
Speaker 1: What was it? Jack? There are a lot of truthers
Speaker 1: out there that think it's, you know, catch up something else.
Speaker 1: But I mean everything is said blood from this in
Speaker 1: the stitches? How do you glued from your from your leg?
Speaker 1: Like that was his foot? What was it when he
Speaker 1: hit web MD? Real quick? I'll put that up? How
Speaker 1: about uh? I mean yeah, that Red Sox team was tough.
Speaker 1: I mean many Ramirez I remember a sports center every night,
Speaker 1: Manny being Manny shut the fuck up. There's so many
Speaker 1: good stories about you know, Manny Ramires in that in
Speaker 1: that locker room and just his antiqusy. You know when
Speaker 1: I would go to Fenway, they'd always take me in
Speaker 1: the little back airy. Remember he used to go in
Speaker 1: the back the green wall. He would go in the
Speaker 1: green wall to take a pit. I heard a lot
Speaker 1: of times he'd go in there. Yeah, he I think
Speaker 1: he would go pee in there or something. A lot
Speaker 1: of times I heard he was just eating a hot dog.
Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys would like, in between
Speaker 1: their hits, they'd go play video games. Like the Red
Speaker 1: Sox just had a coolness. Maybe that's how Corich Shilling
Speaker 1: did himself. In in between hits, he was playing video games.
Speaker 1: He's like, this will be my calling. It could have
Speaker 1: been and he lost everything every this This was a
Speaker 1: tough team. They had Pedro. Obviously Pedro in his prime.
Speaker 1: I think Pedro is the most un hit able picture
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I've never seen a picture like that
Speaker 1: in my life. Who' he toss around in the in
Speaker 1: the fight, don Zimmer, Don Zimmer, he threw an old man.
Speaker 1: That wasn't That wasn't cool. A fight broke out. We
Speaker 1: got to pull the picture up. Don Zimmer. He was
Speaker 1: like pushing eighty and he congrats, you body slammed a
Speaker 1: senior citizen. Sam, you get in the lions, Dan, you
Speaker 1: get hit? You get my eating by a lion, buddy,
Speaker 1: he did. You gotta eat enough fully that that was
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Pager was tough guy. That's not cool.
Speaker 1: That's disrespectful. It was on the cover of the newspaper.
Speaker 1: It was so disrespectful. New York newspapers had old man
Speaker 1: Zimmer laid out, why don't you beat up Hans Zimmer
Speaker 1: while you're at it? To why don't you beat up
Speaker 1: every old person? Awesome? Oh he's the best, good good
Speaker 1: focus music. Oh the best. You do a little hon
Speaker 1: Zimmer score to get in the zone. Oh, that's what
Speaker 1: I do. That's so, that's what I used to play.
Speaker 1: Pregame one of the goats. Yeah, I'd play like the
Speaker 1: Inception soundtrack or the Interstellar soundtrack. Great soundtracks. Uh. He
Speaker 1: even had like some of the nineties hit like hits.
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of those, Like you didn't even
Speaker 1: realize there was just so many great tracks by him.
Speaker 1: But that's that's what takes a movie from like an
Speaker 1: eight to a ten. Is this music? Sin for Me
Speaker 1: is a huge saving seven of ten. I mean, like
Speaker 1: you know, Danny Elfman, the other one, fucking Simpson song,
Speaker 1: Midnight Run everything, everything. Well, let's go back to October seventeenth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. The number one movie was The Grudge.
Speaker 1: Never saw that when it was a grudge? What is
Speaker 1: a grudge? That was that horror movie where the girl
Speaker 1: crawled out of the TV and remember that, No, that's
Speaker 1: the that's the ring hold on, Jack, we are we correcting? Jack?
Speaker 1: What are we this? Locked in? Did you listen to?
Speaker 1: Do you listen to Zimmer right before this? Because we're
Speaker 1: fucking locked in, locked in? Hold on the Grudge? Number
Speaker 1: one song in America, My Happy ending by that Avril Levine.
Speaker 1: I remember her? Yeah, skater Is she the reason for
Speaker 1: boy being spelled bo? I to this, It's like, is
Speaker 1: fuck boy? Does that come from skater boy? The spelling?
Speaker 1: I always thought it was a big boy from cast Ooh,
Speaker 1: that's true. He was befitted precede her. Hmmm, I'm back baby.
Speaker 1: Around this time, Oh g Martha Stewart went to jail,
Speaker 1: didn't rat on anyone, became best friends with Snoop because
Speaker 1: of it. What a stud that was? That was insane.
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart's in jail. She was on everything on every
Speaker 1: you know, egg beater to breadmaker to recipe to probably
Speaker 1: cooking great meals in the pen. I bet she made
Speaker 1: some damn good prison wine. I bet you she was
Speaker 1: like a cool inmate. I bet, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like she was. I bet you she A
Speaker 1: lot of people came to her for things. No one
Speaker 1: wants to beat up Martha Stewart. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be friend Martha Stewart. I bet you she was probably
Speaker 1: she could probably make an insane shank. She's also still
Speaker 1: kind of hot. Have you seen her recently? I saw
Speaker 1: seventy five and still kind of hot. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: She looked she aged well, very well. Now your type,
Speaker 1: I thought she No. One just goes along with me.
Speaker 1: Everyone's just like you're a perv. Oh, I like it
Speaker 1: eighty one, you're into eighty one? Would you still hit
Speaker 1: a jack? Hell? Yeah, dude, Hey man, if there's grass
Speaker 1: in the fields, that's that's what we're calling this episode.
Speaker 1: Geez damn dude, Martha Stewart goes to jail, Friends and
Speaker 1: sex in the city end. Terrible month for white people,
Speaker 1: just a tough time all around. Facebook was founded. Damn.
Speaker 1: That's that's I remember. That's like because I was in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area and we all had the MySpace, and
Speaker 1: like Harvard had the Facebook, and then it went to
Speaker 1: Stanford and then by that time, like you had to
Speaker 1: be in college to get it, like you had to
Speaker 1: have the edu email to get the whatever to be
Speaker 1: able to have a membership. Holy shit, what a dumb
Speaker 1: business model. I know. I mean, it worked out, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying at the time it only worked. They
Speaker 1: changed it, but it was it was because it was cool,
Speaker 1: as justin Timberlake would say in the social network, you know,
Speaker 1: it's you got to keep it cool. Didn't he say
Speaker 1: that something like that? Loved it? Ben Afflac and j
Speaker 1: Lo ended their engagement. Wow, but they're back. Just hit
Speaker 1: the Taliban. They are back? Is the Taliban back? They're back? Dude?
Speaker 1: When did it are they? There? Is there reports? Jack?
Speaker 1: Let me look into that real quick. I don't want
Speaker 1: to end up on a watch list. But isn't it
Speaker 1: called like Ben ben Low or what was it? Benefit?
Speaker 1: Benefer benefit? So they that was like the start of
Speaker 1: every couple doing like a one name thing. That's right,
Speaker 1: that's like, I'm so benefer. I was like, yeah it was,
Speaker 1: I had a couple. Yeah what was it? No, I
Speaker 1: don't remember, but I don't want to. You want to
Speaker 1: throw names. I don't thrown names out there. Yeah, Ben
Speaker 1: Affleck and Jalo that was And this was Look, this
Speaker 1: is pure Boston. A lot of this is pure Boss
Speaker 1: and Facebook Affleck. Ashley Simpson was caught lip syncing on
Speaker 1: SNL and uh, yeah, that was she did not come
Speaker 1: back from that, I don't think. And also, by the way,
Speaker 1: was that the end because of this? No, I mean
Speaker 1: I think I don't think she had a ton of juice.
Speaker 1: I think SNL was kind of like she was one
Speaker 1: of the sheep who was excited for musical guest Ashley Simpson.
Speaker 1: They got like Paul McCartney on SNL. Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: always had new like they had new people. But was
Speaker 1: she anyone that now we're excited for. Yeah, she was
Speaker 1: the young one, right, she's young, She's not a She
Speaker 1: was like the more like kind of outrageous Jessica Simpson.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah. But she had a good song that
Speaker 1: was like the I think it was like the start
Speaker 1: for like one of those The Hills or one of
Speaker 1: those shows. I think. So she had she had one song.
Speaker 1: I was Ashley Simpson fan. This was right around like
Speaker 1: the Newlywed time. Also, huh remember Newlyweds was on MTV
Speaker 1: with n oh yeah, yeah, kind of a Simpson era there.
Speaker 1: It was a Simpson era. I want to take this one, say,
Speaker 1: oh the goat Rodney Dangerfield passed away. We threw the
Speaker 1: word the goat around a lot. But I mean Rodney
Speaker 1: was the greatest back to school still probably my number
Speaker 1: one comedy ever. I'll tell you, good Teacher really seems
Speaker 1: to good. I mean classic. I love Rodney. ODB died too.
Speaker 1: I mean talk about a warm up for I like it,
Speaker 1: old baby, I like it raw. Wu Tang rules love
Speaker 1: Wu Tang. And he did like it raw for sure.
Speaker 1: He's got like thirteen kids, right, Wu Tang is for
Speaker 1: the children. Yeah. MLB in two thousand and four, the
Speaker 1: best records were the Yankees at one oh one and
Speaker 1: sixty one and the Cardinals one oh five and fifty seven.
Speaker 1: MVPs were Vlad Guerrero and old Barry Bonds. This was
Speaker 1: a great baseball. This was baseball the best. Vlad Guerrero
Speaker 1: was awesome, Lad was good, Bonds was good. Yeah. Clemmons
Speaker 1: was the young winner in Houston. Johann Santana Minnesota was
Speaker 1: another cy young winner. I love that. Johann Santana and
Speaker 1: Pedro were both like top of the game right here,
Speaker 1: and then they both become Mets as they were like
Speaker 1: slightly washed. Yeah you know, well Santana wasn't like washed immediately,
Speaker 1: but he was. He was getting there. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't gotta I gotta see Santana.
Speaker 1: I forgot. He was nasty. Yeah, he had like a
Speaker 1: two era. He was like a lefty who just would
Speaker 1: overpower you. He was. He was a killer and me see,
Speaker 1: oh yeah there he is. But yeah, Randy Johnson. I
Speaker 1: loved Randy Johnson. Was he on the he was on
Speaker 1: the diningbacks at this time, seventeenth perfect game in MLB history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was always fun to watch him. Oh this was
Speaker 1: I mean, this was probably my favorite baseball era. I mean,
Speaker 1: Ken Griffey hits his five hundred home run each Euro
Speaker 1: broke the single season hits record. Who didn't love Echiro
Speaker 1: at two sixty two? I mean the fact that eachro
Speaker 1: started in MLB at like twenty eight and still hit
Speaker 1: three thousand hits is the most insane I think. I
Speaker 1: think he played until like fifty Yeah, just retired. But
Speaker 1: he was like already a Hall of Fame guy in Japan.
Speaker 1: I mean he was apparently pictures of his dick in
Speaker 1: Japan go for insane money. Really, that could be a
Speaker 1: good buddy comedy for us to explore. Were just two
Speaker 1: dudes trying to snap a picture of each Ro's dick. Why,
Speaker 1: like one of our moms gets sick and we're like,
Speaker 1: we need money, and then we try to get a picture.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that. Look it up, Jack, Maybe I
Speaker 1: made that up. If I made that up, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: this could be like a real Sam Creeper episode. I'm
Speaker 1: worried and Martha Stewart and the Echiro Penis comment it's
Speaker 1: all right, But this was the year of the walk off.
Speaker 1: Eighty walk off Homer's dingers in the regular season all
Speaker 1: time high at this point. Hmm, oh, Sam, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna save you here. There's according to Paul Laduka fairly
Speaker 1: reasonable source, there was a million dollar bounty to recover
Speaker 1: the picture of each Ro's penis. What I tell you,
Speaker 1: a million dollar bounty, A million dollar dong right there.
Speaker 1: They should. I feel like we can come up with
Speaker 1: like a script, like a National Treasure script, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. We gotta go, like, go hunt this
Speaker 1: thing down, go to a couple. It'd be fun. It'd
Speaker 1: be a fun one. In Japan, National Treasure meets Japan
Speaker 1: meets Each Hero's Dick. So that's what you say, the
Speaker 1: pitch meeting. That's this is basically national treasure. With each
Speaker 1: hero who everyone loves, you'll get a lot of people
Speaker 1: in Japan. And then and it ends with us like
Speaker 1: handing him an envelope and he's like, thank you, and
Speaker 1: we'll give Nick Cage. He's he's loosely affiliated. He's I
Speaker 1: think he's the lead. He's gotta be Nick Cage. So
Speaker 1: have you seen the movie Pig with Nicholas Cage? I
Speaker 1: tried to watch. It was did you watch this new one?
Speaker 1: His new one? It was pretty funny. I watched on
Speaker 1: a plane. Yeah, me too. Plane movie. I didn't get
Speaker 1: through it all, but I was like, it's still pretty entertaining.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's a tough review. I couldn't finish it.
Speaker 1: I fell asleep. I was on a plane. I sleep
Speaker 1: on the plane. Dude, Yeah, I can't sleep on planes.
Speaker 1: That's where I get. It's like, my I love sleeping
Speaker 1: on a plane because it back in when I was playing,
Speaker 1: you'd be preparing all week and some of your only
Speaker 1: downtime was when you were flying, and as soon as
Speaker 1: I get in the plane, I would just knock out,
Speaker 1: who do you sit next to? On the planes I have,
Speaker 1: we'd have our own rows. But Matthew Slater would be
Speaker 1: in front of me, Dolo would be behind me, Brandon
Speaker 1: Bolden would be two behind me. Gronk would have the
Speaker 1: middle section right to the right of me. Uh, that's fun?
Speaker 1: Was it hard? Is the energy? Like? Do they fuck
Speaker 1: with you every when you're trying to sleep anything? No,
Speaker 1: not pregame, pre game. You know, everyone's pretty focused after
Speaker 1: you know, a big win or something, that's when the
Speaker 1: Shenanigans start going. Was Gronk tea bagging postgame? No, Gronk
Speaker 1: Gronk was actually he was. He wasn't. He wasn't tea bagging.
Speaker 1: There'd be other guys that were messing around, but Gronk
Speaker 1: was always like like, just yeah, let's go to this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta win. Get get back man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I don't know, I love it. It
Speaker 1: was Those were some of the funnest times. But let's
Speaker 1: talk about this match or go back up. What were
Speaker 1: we doing in two thousand and four? I was at
Speaker 1: Game seven. Unfortunately a friend somehow got tickets. He took me.
Speaker 1: I wasn't confident. I didn't want to go to the game.
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Brown started. I had no confidence in
Speaker 1: Kevin Brown. He was like, I'm pretty sure he got
Speaker 1: injured opening a DVD. At one point, I was like,
Speaker 1: this guy's prime is way past him, didn't Johnny Damon
Speaker 1: hit a grand Salami? Yeah? That was pretty much like.
Speaker 1: And then Damon became a Yankee. Yeah, I know didn't
Speaker 1: wasn't as cool when he shaved. I will say Damon
Speaker 1: was a good player. Oh my god. He was so
Speaker 1: like he was such a pure baseball guy. He was
Speaker 1: so patient at the plate. He was he was incredible.
Speaker 1: You needed a double for this, he was gonna get
Speaker 1: you a double. It seemed like he always hit the gaps.
Speaker 1: He always got that double opo or something. And he
Speaker 1: the kickswing too, which I love. Yeah. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: a I loved him. I loved him, but he just
Speaker 1: looked a little weird without the beard. Did he win
Speaker 1: one with you guys? Yeah? One one? I think with us?
Speaker 1: Didn't he didn't he take one with us? Let me
Speaker 1: take it. I think he was like the first to
Speaker 1: have like a Boston Red Sox and Yankees. I remember that,
Speaker 1: like Sports Center. We would watch Sports Center this time
Speaker 1: like it was all the time, and I remember they
Speaker 1: talking about that. I remember the Yankees then paid Jacoby
Speaker 1: Elsbury to big money and that did not work out
Speaker 1: at another Red Sox, it worked out for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish he won nine with the Yankees. Nine. You
Speaker 1: guys seen him lately. He's on below Deck like three
Speaker 1: different times. He's what he's a guest on below Deck?
Speaker 1: His fame on Bravo. H I'm going to miss below
Speaker 1: We're supposed to know what below deck on Bravo as
Speaker 1: you look at us. Yes, I like a couple of Bravos.
Speaker 1: I thought this was a podcast. I like Bravo. What
Speaker 1: are your shows on Bravo? Isn't it? What is that? Uh?
Speaker 1: There's the model one on there? America's wasn't that on there?
Speaker 1: And then I used to like the little Uh wasn't
Speaker 1: there a little people on there? What is it? A
Speaker 1: little People? Big World? Yeah? Yeah, that was TLC. That
Speaker 1: was TLC. What else is there? No, it wasn't Summerhouse.
Speaker 1: There's been a couple Bravos. My mom watches it a lot,
Speaker 1: So whenever I'm with her, I'll tell ange next time
Speaker 1: I see her. Thanks fact, well, Johnny David, I will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this matchup ninety six and eighty four,
Speaker 1: The Red Sox Coach by Terry Frank. They were underdog
Speaker 1: and it was his first year and the GM was
Speaker 1: a young boy genius named theo Epstein. Moneyball, Moneyball fucking Rules.
Speaker 1: That's a great movie. That's a great movie. Too bad.
Speaker 1: Theo Epstein looks nothing like Brad Pitt. Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: too bad, you know what I mean. It's just the
Speaker 1: most handsome guy in the world as this this manager.
Speaker 1: But you know what, he was that cool that they
Speaker 1: got Brad Pitt to play him. So if anything, No,
Speaker 1: that's right. He was Billy Bean and we dumb as shit.
Speaker 1: Why do we both think that? Yeah, Billy Bean was
Speaker 1: a pretty hot guy, right, but he Billy being turned
Speaker 1: down the big money and then they got Epstein. That's right. Wow,
Speaker 1: we really got factual. Yeah we got Cachi there, dude,
Speaker 1: I really just rolled with what you said there. Yeah, sorry, no,
Speaker 1: I mean I I was with it. Billy Bean. Billy
Speaker 1: Bean was a hot piece, wasn't he? Yeah? Would you jack? Yeah,
Speaker 1: boy genius. They had Manuel Miers who was an all star,
Speaker 1: Kurt Schilling who was an all star, David Ortiz, all
Speaker 1: thet St Pedro, Johnny Damon, Veritech, Hap Kevin Malar, Timmy
Speaker 1: Wakefield with the knuckler. This was a good team. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah this no more battled an achilles injury all year,
Speaker 1: kat thematic games and the deadline. He was traded to
Speaker 1: the Cubs. Hurt. I remember that deal, dude. He was
Speaker 1: mister Boston, mister you know my he no ma, I
Speaker 1: mean that was he was that he was there. And
Speaker 1: it was like weird too, because I remember when he
Speaker 1: came into the league. It was like Jeter, a Rod
Speaker 1: and Nomar, those were like the guys. They all him
Speaker 1: in the same year. They were all shortstops. They were
Speaker 1: all stars. It was this crazy era. And then no
Speaker 1: Mark a Rod joins, Jeter goes to third base and
Speaker 1: no Mar's gone, So it was they could all been
Speaker 1: in this game. Miguel Tata was in that era too.
Speaker 1: He was excellenta he was great. Yeah. Road the World
Speaker 1: Series for the Red Sox. They swept the Angel Yankees Yankees.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's the sorry the Red Sox, you're right,
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Yeah, they swept the Angels. They beat
Speaker 1: the Yankees four three, and they and then they left
Speaker 1: the car. It was it a walk up then. I
Speaker 1: then earlier in the episode, was that I messed up? Then?
Speaker 1: I thought there was a Game seven between the Twins
Speaker 1: or was that the year before the year before? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Ortiz on that one. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: hit a dinger against the Twins. Fully messed this up.
Speaker 1: Well we're calling ourselves on it though, and that's what
Speaker 1: it's all about, man. Yeah, I mean we lost to
Speaker 1: the I think ortizes walk off was against the Oakland
Speaker 1: A's n O three Alds. Then we ended up losing.
Speaker 1: We the Red Sox ended up losing to the Yankees
Speaker 1: in the ALCS Yankees. Was that the Don walk off? Yeah, boom,
Speaker 1: Gerrit Grady little leaving Peederumn. You know, uh, I will
Speaker 1: say they sweep the Angels, they'd beat the Yankees four three,
Speaker 1: and they sweeped the Cardinals like this was the World Series,
Speaker 1: like you just knew it in the moment. Even for
Speaker 1: the Boston people, that was the World Series just to
Speaker 1: you know, overcome the Yankees, who have their number for
Speaker 1: probably twenty five years and not even including the Curse
Speaker 1: of the Great Bambino. It seemed like, you know, the
Speaker 1: Yankees were knocking them out every year. It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Hell Off and the Yankees knocked them out. But hey, man,
Speaker 1: I remember when they lost. I was kind of you
Speaker 1: saw the faces in the stadium and you saw these
Speaker 1: old people who were sharing that with their kids, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that is the cool thing about sports.
Speaker 1: You know, even as a Yankees fan, I could appreciate that.
Speaker 1: You know, did you stay the whole game in Game seven? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I think you had. Maybe I walked. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It was a blowout. Blowout eight too, I believe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you just always believe in the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: just can't. I can't bring myself to leave a playoff
Speaker 1: game early. I just can't. I mean that was twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. Twenty yeah, twenty years ago now, I mean
Speaker 1: nowadays fans are out. Yeah, I don't think see Chuck induces. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I kept thinking, like, man, how funny would
Speaker 1: it be if they blew it? After all this? But
Speaker 1: wasn't that funny? Kevin Brown really bitched out that. I
Speaker 1: remember being like Kevin Brown, his prime was unhittable, and
Speaker 1: then we get him and he just was always hurt.
Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, the whole cowboy up was the
Speaker 1: rallying cry for the Red Sox started by Kevin Miller
Speaker 1: in the Clubhouse a ton of characters. Johnny Damon and
Speaker 1: Kevin Miller dubbed his the Idiots, pretty good nickname. They
Speaker 1: took shots at I'm a wanna mamajana? What is that drum?
Speaker 1: They took shots of it. It sounds like performance enhancing drugs,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like the series shouldn't count this. A
Speaker 1: little bit of alcohol can sway a series. Grandpa's old
Speaker 1: cop medicine ain't on the list. Buddy and Pedro brought
Speaker 1: Dominican actor and the little person Nelson de la Rossa
Speaker 1: into the series. Brought Look at that he stood two
Speaker 1: foot four inches. I think I remember this too, Hosbula
Speaker 1: before Hosblo Damn Like how tiny he is? Look at
Speaker 1: padro Se, what a what an outstanding you know? Samaritan
Speaker 1: Yankees were one oh one and uh sixty one first
Speaker 1: in the Al East, managed by the great Great Joe Tory,
Speaker 1: who you always respect. Joe Tory. You got to you captain.
Speaker 1: You gotta tip your captain, pure class and uh we
Speaker 1: had a Rod who was an all star Jeter, All Star, Mariano,
Speaker 1: all Star, Gary Sheffield, that all star, uh Giambi All Star.
Speaker 1: Was Sheffield before Mariners or he was on the Marlin Marlin?
Speaker 1: Who was he before the before the Yankees? Though? Was
Speaker 1: it just Marlins? He won? Was Tigers after Tiger's after
Speaker 1: I believe because I used to like Chef. He was
Speaker 1: always a super He's on the Braves, the Braves, he
Speaker 1: was great. We also had Bernie on this team. Mike Mussina,
Speaker 1: Uh wow. We also had Matt Sue was an All
Speaker 1: Star this year, Tom Gordon All Star, the Great Jorge Posada, Javiovaskaz.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kenny Lofton, whose son is in the NBA
Speaker 1: right now. Wow, And he's like kind of a thick kid.
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. He does not look like you think
Speaker 1: Lofton was a speed demon. Hey, this crazy thing is
Speaker 1: you never know what you're gonna poop out because Jackie
Speaker 1: Slater Hall of Fame right tackle is the father of
Speaker 1: the one of the fans guys in the NFL, Matthew
Speaker 1: Slater for a long time. Is crazy. You never know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna be for now, Wait, you don't Kenneth
Speaker 1: Lofton Junior, the guy from Louisiana too, Yeah, not related, really,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Fuck we got a double check,
Speaker 1: but I don't think so. Man, we are throwing some
Speaker 1: bad passes today that you were somehow catching six six
Speaker 1: seventy five. Kenneth Lofton's that heavy heavy said, boy, did
Speaker 1: you not? Did you not talk about the stopper, the closer,
Speaker 1: Mariano Rivera, the greatest closer of all time? Really, he
Speaker 1: lights out saves. We had a play named after him,
Speaker 1: did you yeah? Stop stop her? Why shoot? Damn a
Speaker 1: Boston team with a name after Marianna. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got tip your hat to the goats. I respected Boston
Speaker 1: fans a lot the way they did the farewell to
Speaker 1: Mariano and Jeter. I thought he showed a lot of class,
Speaker 1: and I was I was surprised. You know, we got
Speaker 1: a classy group of people out there. You know, game
Speaker 1: knows game, game respects game. I loved Mariano, he was.
Speaker 1: I mean when he would come in, you just were like,
Speaker 1: it's over. And that's why him blowing this hurts. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's such a he's such a lovable guy too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean didn't really blow this. I mean he pitched three.
Speaker 1: We got to get him on here because we we
Speaker 1: we've done some cross stuff. Really you know him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know him. What did we do? We did something.
Speaker 1: I've done a couple of things with them, and he's
Speaker 1: always been just an outstanding gentleman, a professional, just a professional.
Speaker 1: He also is a sweet signature. Pull up Mariano's signature.
Speaker 1: It looks so like detailed. You know how hard that
Speaker 1: is though, you have to you know, your signature when
Speaker 1: you get in the league is like beautiful this, But
Speaker 1: then when you start selling these things, that's an unbelievable,
Speaker 1: unreal signature, you know. I mean he probably had to
Speaker 1: do that. He's probably signing that a million times every
Speaker 1: time like this, So after like you know, you start
Speaker 1: signing a bunch of stuff, you gotta he gotta modify.
Speaker 1: He was He was one of the coolest New York
Speaker 1: athletes of all time. Like we we love him forever. Marianno,
Speaker 1: he was just you know, he was everything. He was
Speaker 1: the best closer that cut fastball so hard to no
Speaker 1: one could hit it, and you knew he was coming in.
Speaker 1: You knew it was a save. They beat the Twins.
Speaker 1: The Yankees did in three to one of the lds.
Speaker 1: They Yankees owned the Twins during this time. They picked
Speaker 1: a finish first in al You kind of liked The
Speaker 1: Twins though, because that one kid's movie when the kid
Speaker 1: becomes a manager, not Rookie of the Year. That was
Speaker 1: the Cubs. Which one was a Little big League? Little
Speaker 1: big League? I don't think I saw that one. It's
Speaker 1: a great one. I remember that it was a Twins
Speaker 1: in Major League. Back to the Miners the third installment
Speaker 1: with Scott Bakula and Walton Goggins. Man, I've seen some
Speaker 1: shitty movies. Guy. Oh, Dennis Farina was in Little big League?
Speaker 1: Whoa clasp? Chicago Legend? Get Shorty Midnight Run? Come on?
Speaker 1: All right? The Yankees or the narrative? Okay, they were
Speaker 1: coming out of a loss of the World Series that
Speaker 1: last season. They lost the Marlins. The Yankees? Did we
Speaker 1: lost the Marlins? Did we really? I think the Marlins
Speaker 1: won the World Series against the Indians? Did they really?
Speaker 1: They won? Two? Marlin Sneaky Sneaky, Marlin's Man, shout out
Speaker 1: a guy who's a big fan over there. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: This is marlins Man podcast. He's worth having on. He's
Speaker 1: seen some games. Huh. You think Marlin's Man's worth having on?
Speaker 1: He's seen a lot of games. Marlin's man is you know,
Speaker 1: we'll have to talk it over the you know, in
Speaker 1: the the board meeting room. But yeah, you know, so
Speaker 1: many people trying to come on this soup can just throw,
Speaker 1: you know, Marlin's man. I love Marlins Man, but I
Speaker 1: got to see if Sam likes him. He's probably got
Speaker 1: some shit against him because he I hate beat his Yankees.
Speaker 1: Fuck that guy, dude, Fuck Marlins Man. Dude, I heard
Speaker 1: it here first. No, it's probably all right. I'm just
Speaker 1: pissed this so Yankees Red Sox rivalry. He actually hates
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, really, yeah, because Derek Jeter was the owner
Speaker 1: of the Marlins for a while, right, yeah, and he
Speaker 1: funcksh it up. I don't think Marlins blow it up
Speaker 1: every it's they always have something and then just collapse it.
Speaker 1: But it all began when the Red Sox sold Babe
Speaker 1: Ruth to the Yankees in nineteen nineteen. That's the Curse
Speaker 1: of the Bambino. Since then, the Red Sox pretty much
Speaker 1: played second fiddled in New York. The bad blood was
Speaker 1: always there, given the proximity and being in the same division.
Speaker 1: Thurman Munson and Carl Carlton Fisk. The fight and the
Speaker 1: feud and the seventies they were they were the two catchers, right.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like Fisk was always a little
Speaker 1: more talented, but Thurman Munson was the fucking he was
Speaker 1: a captain. Baby that mustache kind of like Veritech loved it.
Speaker 1: Heat it up in the late seventies, the Bucky Dent game,
Speaker 1: which yeah, a painful memory for a lot of Red
Speaker 1: Sox things. Effing Dent lolled a bit in the eighties
Speaker 1: because both teams kind of sucked. I guess the Red
Speaker 1: Sox made those series that one year, but they got
Speaker 1: sucked over by the Mets. That was the Bay Areas time, Baby,
Speaker 1: wasn't it Battle of the Bay. That's when the That's
Speaker 1: when the Bash Bros and shit, the A's were going crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Canseikah maguire heated up in the late nineties
Speaker 1: in the early two thousands with guys like Jeter and Pedro.
Speaker 1: By two three, the bad blood was fully back. We
Speaker 1: talked about the Don Zimmer attack. It was terrible self defense.
Speaker 1: He was charging them an attack that rivals Pearl Harbor
Speaker 1: self in its cowardice self defense. The Yankees would once
Speaker 1: again break the socks heart in seven games for a
Speaker 1: flip for a trip to the World Series. And this
Speaker 1: was I mean, look, this was we talked about it.
Speaker 1: It was kind of just it was their time down
Speaker 1: three to zero, to come back in extra innings to
Speaker 1: stay alive. And then when the next three as well.
Speaker 1: You gotta tip your hat to the Red Sox, you do.
Speaker 1: And even a Rod, who is terrible this postseason, I
Speaker 1: believe it a two run shot in this game. We
Speaker 1: had shit firing. That's remember when a Rod came and
Speaker 1: then you guys didn't win it for until like two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, and it it was like, it's because of
Speaker 1: a Rod. Fuck. Oh, he doesn't get that. Pitt Stipes. No,
Speaker 1: he's not a Bronx bomber. He was. Admittedly that was
Speaker 1: a tough New York impression. That does sound like us.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was, you know, incredible in the regular season,
Speaker 1: and he admittedly he admits it. He disappeared every postseason
Speaker 1: until the year they won it, where he was Unreo
Speaker 1: and Matsui of course went off in that World Series,
Speaker 1: but uh ye had a Rod admits it, Man, he
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough in the postseason. Yeah, I just remember,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking I'm just I'm just talking with I,
Speaker 1: you know, from an outsider of you know, Yankee Nation.
Speaker 1: What do you guys call it? Is it like Yankee World? Yankee?
Speaker 1: I don't know the Yankee Yankee fans, yeah, outside the
Speaker 1: Yankees fans. I just remember always hearing the Yankees fans saying,
Speaker 1: this guy's ruining our Mojoe. He's no Jeter. He didn't
Speaker 1: make it easy on himself. I remember when he fucked
Speaker 1: Madonna and all the Red Sox fans just had the
Speaker 1: Madonna mass. I'm like, you can't tee it up like that,
Speaker 1: you know, but it is pretty impressive that he's fucking
Speaker 1: pop legends and hitting fifty homers a year, I know
Speaker 1: in the postseason, but he did eventually. Guy lives has
Speaker 1: had a good life. He's had a great life. We
Speaker 1: love a Rod in New York. Now. I think he really,
Speaker 1: you know, he went through a lot. The starting pitchers
Speaker 1: of this game were Orlando El Duque, Hernandez, one of
Speaker 1: those Cuban pitchers paid for the Imperiales in Cuba. His
Speaker 1: brother his brothers were a great pitcher Levon for the Marlins,
Speaker 1: and he was one of those Cuban guys where were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if this guy's twenty two or ninety seven,
Speaker 1: Like you did not know his real age. It was like.
Speaker 1: And then Derek Low for the Red Sox, who was
Speaker 1: he was great for you guys, you know, did very well,
Speaker 1: did very well. Keep it going, Sam, this is you,
Speaker 1: this is the Red Sox answered with a three run
Speaker 1: fifth inning to take the lead. The Yankees retook the
Speaker 1: lead for three and the sixth. I thought, that's when
Speaker 1: I thought it was over because we brought in, you know, Mariano.
Speaker 1: Gotta believe. Then in the ninth, this is the play
Speaker 1: that really won it. Dave Roberts safe by an eyelash,
Speaker 1: stealing second pisada with a good throw but just barely
Speaker 1: not in time. Was that a pay? That was a
Speaker 1: pinch run? Right? That was great by Terry francona, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's good, that's good managing. Knocked home on a Bill
Speaker 1: Miller single game winn an extra innings, big Poppy. It's
Speaker 1: a two run walk off in the bottom of the twelve.
Speaker 1: It was pure body. Fuck with Boston, that's what he said.
Speaker 1: Don't fuck with Boston. This is our fucking city, this
Speaker 1: all fucking city. That was a cool moment too. Look,
Speaker 1: he was bigger than just an athlete in Boston. He
Speaker 1: was a He was a Boston leg still is final
Speaker 1: score six to four Boston and they won the series,
Speaker 1: as we all know. The gaming corner presented by win Bet,
Speaker 1: the prop bet. I wonder if I can get Ortiz
Speaker 1: to admit that Pedro shoving Zimmer was an active cowardice.
Speaker 1: If we can get him to admit that that's then
Speaker 1: is that is that? Do it? Eah? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But this is this is a bet on me versus Sam.
Speaker 1: This isn't a prop bet because I'll try to say
Speaker 1: that it was like self defense. Yeah, and whoever he
Speaker 1: agrees with this is a good bet. This is both.
Speaker 1: This is this is he's like the judge and we're,
Speaker 1: you know, plaintiff defendant. All right, I have objected your unner.
Speaker 1: Before we hear from David Ortiz, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We gotta thank you for joining games with names presented
Speaker 1: by wim bet, and we get we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: give you your flowers. He's number thirty four, but he's
Speaker 1: number one. Huh. I'm always given you flowers, Big Poppy,
Speaker 1: ten time All Stars, seven time Silver slugger Boston icon,
Speaker 1: three time World Series champion. This was the first one
Speaker 1: we're covering today. Mister Clutch, one of the most clutch athletes.
Speaker 1: It pained me how clutch he was. You knew he
Speaker 1: if he was coming up, if he was coming up
Speaker 1: in the in the playoffs, I was like, fuck, you
Speaker 1: see him on deck and you'd just be like, oh,
Speaker 1: big Poppies come. His stats in the ALCS thirty one
Speaker 1: at bats, twelve hits, three dingers, eleven RBIs, a point
Speaker 1: forced four five seven on base percentage and a three
Speaker 1: eighty seven average. Just smoked the Yankees for one of
Speaker 1: the most iconic comebacks. From one comeback guy to another,
Speaker 1: Thank you once again, Big Poppy, my older brother for
Speaker 1: joining us here. Man, you got to take us back
Speaker 1: to two thousand and four going into this series. What
Speaker 1: was what was Big Poppy all about two thousand and four? Man? First,
Speaker 1: first of all, you know I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: yours brother. You know that you you made me happy
Speaker 1: so many times I had to see you running the balls. Man,
Speaker 1: I was like, this motherfucker must be the guy the
Speaker 1: biggest ball on earth, because he ain't that bacon. He
Speaker 1: run through everybody like his king coming. Like I say, like, like,
Speaker 1: I always admire you because you left your haller and
Speaker 1: soul on that field. And for us Patrio fans man,
Speaker 1: that means a lie. And based on what you just
Speaker 1: told me, I feel you. I feel you because I
Speaker 1: feel the exactly the same way about yourself. And and
Speaker 1: going back to the two thousand and four UH playoff
Speaker 1: and worst series, you know, like I'm working for Fox
Speaker 1: now and I'm in the playoffs and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and like I've been doing that for years, but I
Speaker 1: got excited twice while I've been working on TV. And
Speaker 1: it was once what was uh? Once? And how bad
Speaker 1: that he have a couple of years ago in the
Speaker 1: World Series against Uh, just my boy, Justin Berlander, and
Speaker 1: he justter Bentland to throw high fastball and he was
Speaker 1: you see how they put the square on the strike
Speaker 1: song during the game, the ball was about an inch
Speaker 1: above the strike song and the Empire one ball, and
Speaker 1: I saw one sort of John Ass basically telling the
Speaker 1: catcher bring it down a little, and I show you
Speaker 1: it's a strider or up, same pitch an inch down.
Speaker 1: He hit the ball to the back wall. Like over
Speaker 1: all the fans and I was like, damn, that's some
Speaker 1: gangster ship. And then the other day my boy Brice
Speaker 1: Harper hitting the home run against San Diego just to
Speaker 1: finish them, that was some gangster ship too. So what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you is you don't leave that memory,
Speaker 1: those memories so much nowadays for many reasons, but one
Speaker 1: or then I don't think. I think there's the talents,
Speaker 1: is there. There's a lot of youngs that in the
Speaker 1: game right now with incredible talent play. They haven't burned
Speaker 1: rods yet. They haven't burned bridges yet. For you to
Speaker 1: get to be at that level, you have to burn bridges.
Speaker 1: You have to have a spirit, you have to know,
Speaker 1: like in my days, to play in the Big league,
Speaker 1: there's no way you can stay in the Big leagu
Speaker 1: hitting two hundreds, No fucking way. I gotta ask you,
Speaker 1: know everything is uh huh, I'm sorry. I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask him when you talk about like burning bridges and
Speaker 1: like kind of finding yourself, did you is there something
Speaker 1: that maybe you learned playing in Minnesota that you took
Speaker 1: with you to Boston. Oh? Man, I learned verty much
Speaker 1: everything over there, like I mean, and it probably was
Speaker 1: the best thing that happened to me because I always
Speaker 1: had the talent to hit. You know, the thing is
Speaker 1: that I was in the wrong crowd since like because
Speaker 1: when I first got to Minnesota, they basically want me
Speaker 1: to be a punching juty. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: they they the way they teach, they want to teach
Speaker 1: me how to do things. It wasn't it wasn't lined
Speaker 1: up with the thing that I was capable of. Like
Speaker 1: I was coming through the minor league hitting Teddy bombs,
Speaker 1: hitting over power, hitting over three hundred, getting all console RBIs,
Speaker 1: and like I like in the minor league. If you
Speaker 1: look at my number in the minor league, I show
Speaker 1: what my career was gonna be like. And then I
Speaker 1: get to Minnesota and everything kind of changed to want
Speaker 1: me to hat the ball up the field, you know,
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that. He just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a power hitter. You need to give me the
Speaker 1: freedom to swim, because that's what they do with kids nowaday.
Speaker 1: And it's not like I totally agree with the way
Speaker 1: they they do kids nowaday, because they basically want to
Speaker 1: tell them that they're striking ours. It's not such a thing.
Speaker 1: And to me, when you strike out an underd time,
Speaker 1: you're not helping me. That's the way I was teaching.
Speaker 1: You eat forty homers, you strike out two hundred time,
Speaker 1: you missed at least an under opportunity to hung me out.
Speaker 1: Not everyone's big Poppy. Not everyone's big Poppy. Not everyone
Speaker 1: can just go up there and fucking hit home runs.
Speaker 1: All right, that's what the world needs to know. Okay,
Speaker 1: Not everyone just hits dingers and fucking walk offs like Poppy.
Speaker 1: There needs to be some doubles. There need to be
Speaker 1: some singles. Okay, you know what I'm saying. I mean
Speaker 1: and even myself that he over found Romas in the
Speaker 1: big league. Very few time I went to the play,
Speaker 1: hid in the home hitting. Very few times. I went
Speaker 1: to the play thinking about hitting a home run, and
Speaker 1: he happened very few time. Hey, you're preaching the choir.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you, is I used to just Hey,
Speaker 1: I was like a doubles guy. I just converted third downs. Okay,
Speaker 1: the homers were grounk. Grounk hit the homers in the
Speaker 1: red area. He's getting the touchdowns. I'm getting that. Yes,
Speaker 1: Now you have to punching Judy Goling through your Homer.
Speaker 1: That's what they get to be ditched. So he got
Speaker 1: a little complicated some time when he cleans down to it.
Speaker 1: That's why you're gonna see so many strike out. That's
Speaker 1: why you're gonna see so many low biting average. It's crazy, David,
Speaker 1: It's crazy. David. I got to ask you how strong
Speaker 1: was the hatred between the Yankees and the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: Do you think about, you know, the July two thousand
Speaker 1: and four a Rod and veritec brawl. You think about
Speaker 1: the Pedro throwing Don Zimmer to the ground, which you
Speaker 1: know many have called an active cowardice self defense. The
Speaker 1: guy was going in the lions. Then you can't come
Speaker 1: in the lions then not expect, not get big. What
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Even even uh mister simmer Man,
Speaker 1: Riss and peas, all right, that was one of my guys.
Speaker 1: He know that he make a mistake doing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: apologized afterward later on. You know, I would argue that
Speaker 1: Pedro made the mistake. That was an old man he
Speaker 1: threw Hey. No, but you know what though, it doesn't
Speaker 1: murtter all you are. You don't cross the line, brother,
Speaker 1: don't cross the line. You don't cross the line. Don't
Speaker 1: cross the line, you know, and you don't cross the
Speaker 1: firewars going on. Don't light another one, do not. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna end up being good. Did you guys hate
Speaker 1: each other? You and the Yankees? Did you like? Did
Speaker 1: you hate each other this time? No? No, no, you
Speaker 1: know better. Fact in my era was when everything comes
Speaker 1: down to be what it is nowadays, you don't see
Speaker 1: that many braw you don't see that many fight I was.
Speaker 1: I basically start that up because my game wasn't about
Speaker 1: hitting anyone. My hand was about beating you. I don't
Speaker 1: fucking play for the I don't work for the w
Speaker 1: w F to be fucking swinging out people out there
Speaker 1: and fucking doing it. No, no, no, no, no no, that's
Speaker 1: not baseball, not baseball. You don't. You don't saying the
Speaker 1: right message when you do that to the kids watching.
Speaker 1: In football, yeah, you woo pass and you get us bat.
Speaker 1: That's the game. It's contact, it's aggressive. That's part of football.
Speaker 1: W w F. Yes, that's But in baseball is who
Speaker 1: is better than who you known? I'm saying all game
Speaker 1: come down to it. But in baseball, the contact part
Speaker 1: of it's very limited. And and and now all this
Speaker 1: rule and stuff, you know, because you don't wanna, you
Speaker 1: don't want to get into a bra all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: a guy making ten million missed three months bay is
Speaker 1: getting injury because of it. You know that our salary,
Speaker 1: our contract is guaranteed, but we have an insurance company
Speaker 1: right behind it. So if a guy get injured because
Speaker 1: of a fight, the insurance company had to take over
Speaker 1: the contract. And the insurance company don't like that because
Speaker 1: we ain't at to fight. We are there to play
Speaker 1: the game that way it's supposed to be exactly, I
Speaker 1: guess the insurance company and I emphasized a lot on
Speaker 1: MV on that on having all this rule. Even when
Speaker 1: they throw to preach and preach close to you, nowadays
Speaker 1: you get a warning for that. Softened up. It's definitely
Speaker 1: it's it's softened up, big poppy. But let's it's more
Speaker 1: of a it's more of a company. I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: I know they are cross the line. And some of
Speaker 1: the things may basically changing the nature of the game,
Speaker 1: like the sliding thing a second base, just because what
Speaker 1: happened with Chasetly a couple of years ago. This and
Speaker 1: that you know. I know that was daddy, and there's
Speaker 1: a better way. Wait. Breaking over plak to me is
Speaker 1: part of the nature of the game. Taking out the
Speaker 1: home player, bust your posey, knocking the guy our homeplay cold,
Speaker 1: that's part of the game. I love that I did
Speaker 1: not know this, thatcher's no catchers know that that is coming.
Speaker 1: I did not know this was an insurance issue. Though.
Speaker 1: That's such a bummer for fans to hear when you're
Speaker 1: like get him and they're like, no, no, no, we
Speaker 1: got an insurance company, my pullet. We're not saying listen,
Speaker 1: let me clify this. I'm not saying that they are
Speaker 1: changing everything because of it, but I think in my
Speaker 1: mind may think it in my own bubble, I think
Speaker 1: that that has on how to do with Definitely, I
Speaker 1: bet it does. Let's big poppy. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: that I'm an hundred percent sure that's what it is,
Speaker 1: But me and my own bubble, I think that that's
Speaker 1: something I had to do with because it don't make
Speaker 1: no sense. It don't make no sense that if I'm
Speaker 1: met at you, I can go out and meet you
Speaker 1: in the hand, meet you to hey, eat you whatever
Speaker 1: I feel like it because of my emotion that I'm
Speaker 1: going through you going to the DL and it's okay,
Speaker 1: not okay, No, it's not you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So Mob had to, you know, make sure that doesn't
Speaker 1: happening there, and they're doing a good job based on that.
Speaker 1: So back in two thousand and three, you lose the
Speaker 1: Yankees in seven. There's been the curse of the Great
Speaker 1: Dambino ever since god knows when thirteen or whateverteen nineteen nineteen,
Speaker 1: right after the Titanic sunk and going into this league,
Speaker 1: you guys, it's Francona's first year. You got a fucking
Speaker 1: clubhouse full of personalities. What made you guys vibe and
Speaker 1: fucking believe in each other to go out and think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the team after being down three
Speaker 1: to zero, to go in and fucking come back and
Speaker 1: win the series? What makes you? What was that? Man? Remember,
Speaker 1: I got a whole bunch of idiots out there that
Speaker 1: we don't even He was it was no fear. He
Speaker 1: was like, hey, listen, just I mean, we heat bottom,
Speaker 1: there's only one way to go back up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let's say that goes like, hey, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how many times they knock you down. What
Speaker 1: is important how many times you know how to get up.
Speaker 1: He worked perfectly for us at the time because that's
Speaker 1: exactly what we do. That's exactly what we did back then.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Yankees have a fucking h They're having
Speaker 1: a squad that It was like, like, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think I was seeing moving forward a team like
Speaker 1: the Yankee as that those those couple of years, like
Speaker 1: they was bombered, like they was really bumbered, like like
Speaker 1: it was scary, Like I remember this one game that
Speaker 1: it goes through the game that we lost that that
Speaker 1: it was like fireworks like they they he looked like,
Speaker 1: I mean they never got to first, but it was
Speaker 1: second third and home, second third and home like like
Speaker 1: they have they have a team that wow, and uh
Speaker 1: we were able to bounce back. I mean it was
Speaker 1: it was we have high confidence level, but we also
Speaker 1: have good chemistry. We also have good things going on
Speaker 1: in the clothouse. We have players like her chilling white soul,
Speaker 1: get him a surgery in the training room. I saw
Speaker 1: that with my own eyes, Like when when I heard
Speaker 1: people talking about the bloody sauce and I heard what
Speaker 1: people have to say about it. I left my ass
Speaker 1: off because I saw the doctor practicing basically just doing
Speaker 1: a surgery on him in the in the training room.
Speaker 1: I saw that nobody told me about. I saw my
Speaker 1: own eyes, and this dude was out there pitching a
Speaker 1: couple of days later in that rainy, cold weather. I
Speaker 1: don't know how the hell he did it, but that
Speaker 1: was the type of thing that it was in the
Speaker 1: clobhouse the motor Whales to you know, go out there
Speaker 1: and fucking do it for New England. By we also
Speaker 1: had the most incredible fan base that basically started building
Speaker 1: up because after the after the two lessand and three season,
Speaker 1: the two lessond and forty was basically sold out because
Speaker 1: we get them hoped, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: the fan base, I mean, you know, d you know
Speaker 1: you know how it's pool is up in New England.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fan base over there is incredible and
Speaker 1: that was a big part of the motivation that we
Speaker 1: had to go out there and whoop that airs. But David,
Speaker 1: you're saying, Julian knows Julian came into a team like
Speaker 1: he was in the second half of a New England dynasty.
Speaker 1: You guys hadn't won since nineteen nineteen, so, you know, base,
Speaker 1: different sport, different fan base. There was this hunger to
Speaker 1: win when you're down three to er. Is there a
Speaker 1: part of you that's like this Yankees offense is stacked,
Speaker 1: We're fucked. No, or do you believe like we're gonna
Speaker 1: win this? They're taking the mamajuana shots. They're taking fucking
Speaker 1: mamajuana shots. That's a good worry even if I tell
Speaker 1: you that, yes, it's not because we beat your ass.
Speaker 1: I know the result. I'm saying, how did you feel
Speaker 1: in game four? History? Like the history is rolled down?
Speaker 1: The Red Socks in two thousand and four bounced back
Speaker 1: after the three and all and whoop the Yankees as
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like he was no fear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know we were playing against some bad motherfuckers. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But who cares? You already there?
Speaker 1: What's the worst thing that came out? Can only go up?
Speaker 1: Can only go up? Were you doing the mama wana shots? Man?
Speaker 1: I do my wana for breakfast? Take us yo, man,
Speaker 1: We have we have a we have an incredible team. Man. Really,
Speaker 1: everybody was just doing something expresial for us to win it,
Speaker 1: and that's why I end up happening. So Dave Roberts steals.
Speaker 1: We pinch on him MLR. He gets the hit, hits
Speaker 1: him in take us back. You guys get into extra
Speaker 1: innings and in the twelfth Big Poppy comes up. We're
Speaker 1: not thinking about home runs because Big Poppy don't think
Speaker 1: about home runs. But Ray, maybe right here, big Poppy
Speaker 1: is thinking home run because Big Poppy dudes does home
Speaker 1: runs in these kinds of situations. What was what was
Speaker 1: the preset mind going into this app bat I'm gonna
Speaker 1: end it right here, We're gonna fucking get this thing
Speaker 1: started or what? No? I basically went back to my
Speaker 1: history against who was the guy it was? It wasn't Gordon,
Speaker 1: it was after Gordon, whoever was in uh, because I
Speaker 1: know we're Vera retired to you. I believe on a
Speaker 1: pop up prior to that, were you were you? Like,
Speaker 1: thank god, Rivera's out and we're going deeper into the bullpen. No,
Speaker 1: if you look at my nun but I hate pretty
Speaker 1: well against Marie. Did you know, like Mariana was not
Speaker 1: a contrat water back And I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: you that I enjoy hit enough when because the only
Speaker 1: one thing that I like about facing it was that
Speaker 1: I know that everything was coming hard. You don't say,
Speaker 1: and I had to make up my mind and I
Speaker 1: can't like I had no problem hitting faster, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But Mariana fast was not that regular
Speaker 1: fast that you see on the lady basis. It wasn't
Speaker 1: cut fast cut him fast cutting. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to face Mariana. What can you do? It
Speaker 1: was Paul quandtrail was it was po Quantre. Yeah, po
Speaker 1: Quandra who his son is pitching in the Big League
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. Now I saw the other the other day
Speaker 1: and I was very happy about saying that. And uh,
Speaker 1: but poke one throw he had the front door fastball
Speaker 1: who he threw it at you and come back into
Speaker 1: the play and I just realized about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: like that's what I'm gonna look for, and he threw
Speaker 1: it to me. But she was a good pitch, Like
Speaker 1: every everythingle hit her, normally give up on that pitch.
Speaker 1: But he throw to me so many times that I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm gonna stay on and
Speaker 1: keep my hands close to my body and tried to
Speaker 1: drive it and boom boom. The rest is history. Geez.
Speaker 1: And at this point, you know you you win the
Speaker 1: game at three to one. Did you feel the momentum switched?
Speaker 1: Was there a moment after this home run where you're like,
Speaker 1: we're fucking we're taking us now. Yeah, everything and started
Speaker 1: basically clicking. Was when we went to New York. That
Speaker 1: was when I tell you, even when we when we
Speaker 1: went for the third game, I would comfort the level
Speaker 1: that would high, and I'll tell you what, we won
Speaker 1: the third game, we feel like we already won it all.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. And then it's because it
Speaker 1: was once you guys beat the Yankees, we don't have
Speaker 1: to talk about the fucking World The World Series was
Speaker 1: this match. It was was this was this series? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that how we felt? It sends like it. It
Speaker 1: sends like it, and San Louis know it. San Louis
Speaker 1: know that we was How did the fighter cracker, you know,
Speaker 1: like they know they know that we're coming in hot. Well,
Speaker 1: that's it's all about kind of coming together at the
Speaker 1: right time and winning four straight against the number one
Speaker 1: team in the al e straight. Because then they went
Speaker 1: and swept that's right. And you swept the prior series.
Speaker 1: I believe too. And then you just steamrolled the NL
Speaker 1: best team, the Cardinals. Uh when you won in Game
Speaker 1: seven against the Yankees. I was at that game, uh,
Speaker 1: in the same hat, and you ripped my heart out.
Speaker 1: David as the Johnny Damon who hit the Grand Slam?
Speaker 1: I mean, how sweet was that? It was great? Man,
Speaker 1: I got to give it to you. Man. The Yankee
Speaker 1: fans are the only fans that come to mer, the
Speaker 1: only fans out of all the teams. The Yankee fans
Speaker 1: are the only people that come to me and be like, hey, Poppy,
Speaker 1: I'm a Yankee fan, but I respect you. Oh, I
Speaker 1: love you with Poppy Hill. You know people Yankee fans.
Speaker 1: For all I played, I always respect fans no matter
Speaker 1: what they were cheering for. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I used to go to New York and take
Speaker 1: my time signing or what I have, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who you were cheering for, you know. And I
Speaker 1: was doing that by nature. By people talk to me
Speaker 1: about it like, you know what I alway used to
Speaker 1: see you. We used to come to New York, take
Speaker 1: care you time with the fans and this, and I
Speaker 1: or when we used to come to Boston, and I
Speaker 1: would respect that, and plus that a lot of people
Speaker 1: tell me when we used to boo you at New
Speaker 1: York that was a bad move because you used to
Speaker 1: use bounce back and whoop our ass. We learned in
Speaker 1: the hard way. So I noticed at some point during
Speaker 1: my Korea that the boo wasn't there, no more laid
Speaker 1: it on. He wasn't the strong the strongest it was
Speaker 1: at the beginning, and to someone just made that clear
Speaker 1: for me, and I was like, oh, makes sense. You
Speaker 1: Big Poppy. You were like, you know, it's it's very
Speaker 1: similar to how Boston fans feel about Jeter. He's a
Speaker 1: likable guy. You respect his accolades. And I could honestly
Speaker 1: say this was before I was even with Boston, and
Speaker 1: this was like my introduction to Boston, New York that
Speaker 1: you were. I was on the West Coast. I was
Speaker 1: a little West Coast kidd, and you fuck I loved
Speaker 1: Big Poppy just because you were a lovable dude that
Speaker 1: came up when high pressure situations like that's that's what
Speaker 1: they was. You know, that's what people will always respect
Speaker 1: and remember you by now this this game and this
Speaker 1: series has been documented and and there's been documentaries, fucking books.
Speaker 1: I mean, we did the research. You could find anything.
Speaker 1: What tell me something that wasn't documented in all this bullshit?
Speaker 1: I need to hear something good. Give me something that
Speaker 1: people don't know about this? You know what the game is?
Speaker 1: I think pretty much is out there. Everything pretty much
Speaker 1: is out there. You know. Why go and see Dany
Speaker 1: the other day. I'm in the hotel, I'm at the
Speaker 1: end Court and no bullshit, I was. I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: was in Philadelphia. It was in the Philadelphia Sunday. I
Speaker 1: can remember. The thing is that I'm coming down an
Speaker 1: elevator and this guy, this Jackie fan, was talking shit
Speaker 1: about my boy had a judge. He's talking to another
Speaker 1: guy an elevator. But it was when Adam and Judge
Speaker 1: have like seven a strikeout on the road, right, they
Speaker 1: were doing their share out of him in New York
Speaker 1: and this and that, And he's talking to this guy.
Speaker 1: But he know who I am, and he wanted me
Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say. And this is
Speaker 1: this is what I told him. I was like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: have you ever taken a minute to picture the Yankees
Speaker 1: line up? Without Adam Judge next year, and the motherfuckers
Speaker 1: stay quiet for a minute. And I told him you guys,
Speaker 1: I said, fans needs to understand that would ever take
Speaker 1: that field when I get things done. I never got
Speaker 1: booed a flame Way Park. And that's why I ride
Speaker 1: and die with those fans. I know not. I know
Speaker 1: that not everyone bring the same look. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. By as especially I was and I still
Speaker 1: be for Boston. I think a guy like Anat Judge,
Speaker 1: it's at that level. But the minute you see that
Speaker 1: the guy who loved you're going to bull his ass
Speaker 1: when you know that he's the best player. Ear I
Speaker 1: say a lot about you Yankee fans. I'm not doing
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge. Well, I love Aaron Judge. Whoever these Yankees
Speaker 1: fans were that that's not that's not what you see
Speaker 1: on TV. Well, I hear what you're saying. I don't
Speaker 1: judge the minut he cool love even during the regular season.
Speaker 1: He get the biggest bull And let me tell you,
Speaker 1: I said, nathlete, you would take that from the opposition
Speaker 1: when you go to their play, But when you get
Speaker 1: that shit at home, brood, I think you're right and
Speaker 1: all I heard was that Boston legend David Ortiza is
Speaker 1: the best player in the world. Is Aaron Judge, New
Speaker 1: York Yankee. That's what I took from that. That's in
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, it's him. And but you said, Aaron Judge,
Speaker 1: we're going to run that. Uh, Aaron Judge is the
Speaker 1: best player in the world him, they bet Hey, man,
Speaker 1: oh the why the why? He was hitting for the
Speaker 1: met next yeater. Maybe don't say that to me, dude,
Speaker 1: never know Aaron Judge better. But you're right. You make
Speaker 1: a good point. I think New York fans are very tough,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, we saw in the nineties
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing got booed unfairly. I think I think we
Speaker 1: got to support our guys. So I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: think we should be cheering Aaron Judge. We should need
Speaker 1: to know on what b out of the crowd. You
Speaker 1: want to be that so you need to know that
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's just like Zimmerman. You can't cross
Speaker 1: the line. You can't cross the line. Bro, you're gonna
Speaker 1: boo the only guy that you are depending on. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, man, come on, man, I'm with you. What
Speaker 1: was your reaction. No, you guys not stupid New York.
Speaker 1: But now I never thought it was that much. You're
Speaker 1: dropping wisdom. Man, You're right, bro, you booing your hero.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm booing your hero. Sam. You know you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, the only one of the stadium.
Speaker 1: What what was your reaction when No More got traded?
Speaker 1: He seems like he was needed. Even if that's my boy,
Speaker 1: thing changed for good. You know, the thing is that
Speaker 1: you you can't have well he got Remember it was
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, and want end up happening.
Speaker 1: We ended up winning the worst series. He has a distruction,
Speaker 1: and he was creating a distruction. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was chasing his contract,
Speaker 1: what I got no problem with. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we were trying to win the worst series, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it seems like the thing wasn't
Speaker 1: comfortable with what was going on. They make them move,
Speaker 1: and it looked like they were right, don't you think.
Speaker 1: I mean it looked pretty damn good after you know,
Speaker 1: going down three of them and coming back. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looked good. The results look good. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: why they went. They went and get the piece that
Speaker 1: we really need. A guy who uh basically came in
Speaker 1: played with different He wasn't a home room heiter boy.
Speaker 1: He was really good a movie running over and doing
Speaker 1: his thing, and that help us to win a world series. Look, man,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how
Speaker 1: good I am. If I don't win, Who cares? You
Speaker 1: guys are talking to me right now, because I'm a
Speaker 1: fucking winners. That's a That's why I love you. You're
Speaker 1: a winner. If you don't fucking win, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: If personal number don't don't matter, personal number don't fucking matter.
Speaker 1: What matters is win. You're gonna remember every single motherfucker
Speaker 1: that wasn't the twenty fourteen and seven, thirteen, two and eighteen, Yes,
Speaker 1: because what gets what happened when we won? Don't one
Speaker 1: remember the second place? Eada man right there, you know what,
Speaker 1: you wanna remember him because he will pass and won
Speaker 1: and he uh you know how many great you know
Speaker 1: how many great baseball player went through the red socks.
Speaker 1: I don't nobody remember them because gets what they never wont?
Speaker 1: Semple is that simple as that. Speaking of winners, I
Speaker 1: mean Chicken. Speaking of winners, you played alongside another winner,
Speaker 1: one of the great power hitters of this era, one
Speaker 1: of the great hitters of this era, Manny Ramirez. Any
Speaker 1: great Manny stories, anything you learned from him? Oh, I
Speaker 1: learned a lot of things from Manny. Manny was one
Speaker 1: of the best hit I ever seen in my life,
Speaker 1: you know. But money, you know, he got his own
Speaker 1: way to do things. And that was him, boy, great,
Speaker 1: great human being, good guy, hard working motherfucker man. Because
Speaker 1: let me tell you, Manny, I want you to believe
Speaker 1: that he was lazy, want you to believe that he
Speaker 1: wasn't into it, But numbers don't lie. What was he
Speaker 1: What was he doing in the Green Monster all the time.
Speaker 1: I just always remember he was always exactly what's my
Speaker 1: guy doing? He was his own He had his own personality. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, that was hard. That was hard to fight,
Speaker 1: That was hard to fight by. That's exactly how he was.
Speaker 1: And what was Pedro like? No, Pedro was more down here,
Speaker 1: you know. Pedro. Pedro was more simple when it comes
Speaker 1: down to personality. But just like having fun. But I
Speaker 1: thinks both of them alive because I learned, you know,
Speaker 1: part of myself that I don't know until I start,
Speaker 1: you know, watching them, watching their work, edict and the
Speaker 1: way they go by the business. Now, what was the
Speaker 1: bigger celebration after the LCS or the World Series? The
Speaker 1: biggest celebration, Uh, after you got past the Yankees because
Speaker 1: you guys knew you were gonna win against the Carns
Speaker 1: or no, no, no, no, we don't know we we're
Speaker 1: gonna win. I mean, it doesn't matter with what I
Speaker 1: tell you guys right now, you don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Bab with is very unpredictable. Yeah, we went in and
Speaker 1: we whooped them. Yeah that's fine, But we know we're
Speaker 1: playing against a great team. No, you got my boy
Speaker 1: Albert on that team. You got my boy Molina on
Speaker 1: that team. You have Ah, let's see what else I
Speaker 1: can't remember for that boat club? Wayne Wright, the nasty
Speaker 1: breaking ball. I mean, I can't tell you tons of
Speaker 1: players that we're in the boat club. Uh that made
Speaker 1: them be who they were, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And we don't know. We we know that we play
Speaker 1: a great series against the Yankees, but we don't know
Speaker 1: that we're gonna turn down to be like that we
Speaker 1: just went in, how do how does the fighter cracker?
Speaker 1: And we swept them back? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Now I'm coming and any crazy, any crazy party stories
Speaker 1: from when you won. Were doing the warm in the room,
Speaker 1: You're doing the worm big Bobbies. Yeah, you gotta say,
Speaker 1: my big old ass doing the warm in the room.
Speaker 1: I did a few times and they went. There was
Speaker 1: stops where you got another series to go stop. Now
Speaker 1: now Boston's title town. And I remember when anytime you
Speaker 1: guys won, or the Bruins one or the Celtics one,
Speaker 1: it like motivated us, like we had to pull our
Speaker 1: end of the string. Did you guys ever feel that
Speaker 1: with the other teams winning. I gotta say that was
Speaker 1: the best era or sport in New England those past
Speaker 1: two decades. And it was because it was because of it.
Speaker 1: It was because of what you just say, Watching you
Speaker 1: guys win, watching the Celties win, watching the Bruins win,
Speaker 1: that was a motivation. Competition, had the really good competition
Speaker 1: going on in town. The guys did it. Fuck it,
Speaker 1: let's go at it. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: mean being a New England fans of sport those two
Speaker 1: decade ofy like the best time of all time because
Speaker 1: he was punching coming out of from every different organization.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And the most important thing
Speaker 1: we support each other. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: you guys win, Julie, we used to go there. You
Speaker 1: guys used to come to us. We used to go
Speaker 1: to the Southeast. We used to go to the brewin
Speaker 1: Brewing used to come. It was. It was. It was
Speaker 1: like a family thing. I used to love us those things.
Speaker 1: I used to love just having you guys coming over.
Speaker 1: We're going to you guys. I mean, it was, it was,
Speaker 1: It was. It was a great, great time, great hitter
Speaker 1: and the most important thing, it was fun because everybody
Speaker 1: was winning. It was. I mean, you were such a
Speaker 1: clutch hitter. Yankees fans hate respected you because you were.
Speaker 1: You were so good in the postseason. You're great in
Speaker 1: the regular season too, but not everyone delivers in the postseason.
Speaker 1: And you did. Who other hitters that you think of
Speaker 1: is as just postseason monsters. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I had to go to uh. Rice Harper to me
Speaker 1: is one of the most incredible hero this new hera
Speaker 1: that I have seen in years, Like why he has
Speaker 1: showed this playoff. Bro, it is something that it's remarkable.
Speaker 1: It's something that you don't see every day, especially in
Speaker 1: this era we're hitting is it's it's so miserable, Like like,
Speaker 1: I see guy hitting in the Big League and nice
Speaker 1: sometime tell myself, Man, he's not ready to be at
Speaker 1: this level. You know what I'm saying, And and and
Speaker 1: and you see guy like him performing the way he is,
Speaker 1: it's something that it's a spressure. Bro. All right, big Poppy,
Speaker 1: I know, I know you got to bounce right now,
Speaker 1: but your son's about to take VP. Yeah, he's about
Speaker 1: to do it. Look over there, I was saying, about
Speaker 1: to start hitting. Tell him, you know, if he wants
Speaker 1: an the way down here to watch him. If your
Speaker 1: son wants to play for the Yankees, I'm gonna spread
Speaker 1: the word. No one's gonna do him. We could use
Speaker 1: some power in the postseason. So hey, hey, listen, you
Speaker 1: gotta earn that. It's not just saying that you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta earn it, you know. And and that's why
Speaker 1: I think my boy, Aaron Judge, I earned that. So
Speaker 1: I want it on the record that we love Aaron Judge.
Speaker 1: Here we want him to be Yankee. Hey, listen, I
Speaker 1: got to me. I don't judge. I don't judge once,
Speaker 1: just one time. It didn't take me long to love him,
Speaker 1: very like he really will representing that organization. But he's
Speaker 1: to me representing the Yankees. He's a jitter level personality wise.
Speaker 1: The guy don't show emotion. The guys is totally dedicated
Speaker 1: to his career. The guy just want to whoop pass.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great teammate. What don't you want?
Speaker 1: He just went for the record. What else? I mean?
Speaker 1: If I keep talking, I won't finish. I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy have all the all the talent in the world
Speaker 1: too to be loved, be loved by by his fans.
Speaker 1: So I just don't think it was right. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll let you get going, But before you get going,
Speaker 1: can can we just hear it one more time? It
Speaker 1: gets me so fired up? What do we say after
Speaker 1: the Boston bombing? We we what is it? This is
Speaker 1: our fucking city, This is our fucking body, our freedom,
Speaker 1: and that that this is our fucking city. It was
Speaker 1: an epic look, man, New Yorkers were Bostonians that day.
Speaker 1: We felt it too. That was that was bad as.
Speaker 1: We love you, man, I appreciate you coming on and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to I can't wait to see your son.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the jeans get passed down.
Speaker 1: And he's coming. He's coming. Dude's working extremely hard. I'm
Speaker 1: very proud of him, you know. I mean he's a
Speaker 1: good kid. He always listened to what I have to say.
Speaker 1: He always want to do things based on my opinion.
Speaker 1: And you know, especially in the rather we are living
Speaker 1: where the you they feel like they got everything figured out.
Speaker 1: You know, he he listened. He's a good listener. So
Speaker 1: I love it and I can't wait for him all
Speaker 1: the way. You're the man, and I support you all
Speaker 1: the way, no matter what. Whatever you need, you need anything,
Speaker 1: you know that, I love it. Thank you for coming on, man,
Speaker 1: Thank you big Poppy. Hey, I love your brother. Man. Well,
Speaker 1: the Curse of the Great Bambino it was lifted on
Speaker 1: it was lifted and you could just instant reaction. Just
Speaker 1: superstar legend he was. He is Boston Sports Royalty. I mean,
Speaker 1: you realize you're talking to an all timer for sure.
Speaker 1: Just everything you know, his setting where he was watching
Speaker 1: his son here in the baseball is getting dinged in
Speaker 1: the background. That's just big poppy, you know, And you
Speaker 1: could totally tell, like you were saying earlier, he's a
Speaker 1: player bringing in current players. He loves Bryce Harper. He's
Speaker 1: pissed off about Aaron Judd. It's crazy that this dude
Speaker 1: is literally in the elevator defending Yankees. That's how much
Speaker 1: of a baseball head he is. Head. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: call him seamhead. But uh, sometimes I'll be on stage
Speaker 1: at the end of a show in comics Pete crowd
Speaker 1: members will like scream out comics names that they want
Speaker 1: me to shoot on. I'm like, I don't, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get that. It's like kind of a brotherhood. You
Speaker 1: kind of don't want to do that shit. No, And
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, for me, any any guy
Speaker 1: that I competed against, you know now now it's over
Speaker 1: in between the lines, you hate them, but afterwards it's
Speaker 1: it's a fraternity of guys that you know, there's no
Speaker 1: one you still hate. Nah, I don't. I don't really
Speaker 1: hate anyone. That's good, you know, But it's because you
Speaker 1: know how hard it is to get to that level,
Speaker 1: and you know that everyone has a story. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: regardless of what situation you're in as an individual. It
Speaker 1: takes a lot to get to that situation, to be
Speaker 1: in those high pressure situations and to deliver in those
Speaker 1: pressure situations. There's always a winner and there's always a loser.
Speaker 1: You know, lost a lot of those, and you know,
Speaker 1: fortunately enough you can win some and and that's just
Speaker 1: how it is. You respect those. You have an ultimate
Speaker 1: respect for someone you compete against at the high level,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, especially being in as many big
Speaker 1: games as you and Poppy were. Poppy man, he's cheez
Speaker 1: he's got three three three rings. Yeah, three ring club. Well,
Speaker 1: we got to settle this prop bet. How how do
Speaker 1: we do? Jack? I know, I know how we did,
Speaker 1: and I know I lost. I try What can I do?
Speaker 1: It's two Boston legends teaming up on me. What am
Speaker 1: I going to do? I went for it, you win
Speaker 1: for it. I went. I tried to get him to
Speaker 1: call his World Series buddy a coward. He wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Valiant effort. Yeah, dude, what's the legacy for this game?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the first time ever three to zero
Speaker 1: comeback and is it still the only time ever? Yep?
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy. That's that's that's so hard in baseball.
Speaker 1: Just like he said, baseball happened any Like, after they
Speaker 1: won this series, they still weren't They didn't think they
Speaker 1: won everything. You knew, you knew this team was kind
Speaker 1: of a team of destiny. Maybe they didn't even know
Speaker 1: at that point because they had the humility, you know,
Speaker 1: going in against the Cardinals said you have to you
Speaker 1: have to stay focused. But like as as someone watched them,
Speaker 1: like they're gonna win at all, I just I felt
Speaker 1: like they were a team of destiny. There was just
Speaker 1: so many instances where the Red Sox were that close though,
Speaker 1: So I'm sure in that locker room there was leaders
Speaker 1: in there like, hey, guys, we need to shut the
Speaker 1: fuck up. We need to we need to really focus
Speaker 1: on this. We can't get this far just to get
Speaker 1: this far. Yeah, I mean that was always the thing.
Speaker 1: Playing in the last game of the season, You're always like,
Speaker 1: we didn't come this far to just get this far.
Speaker 1: We got to win it. And it was just cool
Speaker 1: to hear him speak about that and how how they
Speaker 1: stuck together. And I guess he likes the mama wanna yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to try it. You want to get mama wan.
Speaker 1: We got to get some mama wana. Yo. You got
Speaker 1: any hooks? Really yo? Get her in. He drank it
Speaker 1: for breakfast, he said, which probably with a cereal that's
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I She'd asked him, what cereal guy is?
Speaker 1: I bet your big poppy loves a good bowl of cereal?
Speaker 1: What's your number one cereal? Like most Underrated or Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman like every day and a treat? What are your
Speaker 1: go to every day? When? I like, when you feel
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be healthy even though it's not healthy.
Speaker 1: Hunting at cheerios, Yeah, no at all, but they're not
Speaker 1: as bad as like a fucking Captain Crunch, or if
Speaker 1: I'm feeling cocoa, eat little cocoa pebbles or or maybe
Speaker 1: fruity pebble. You know, it depends on what I'm feeling
Speaker 1: that day. I'm never a one cereal kind of guy.
Speaker 1: I like multiple and some. Yeah, I do like to
Speaker 1: mix up. Sometimes I'll put fruity pebbles in Captain Crunch,
Speaker 1: the regular Captain Crunch without the crunchberries, like a cereal
Speaker 1: gang bang Dude's I'm here for a gang bang? Yeah,
Speaker 1: here you are. What's your favorite cereal. I got a
Speaker 1: lot an underrated one. Crackling oat bran is so underrated.
Speaker 1: That's a great fuck is that with the people think
Speaker 1: of stuff with the o's at the stuff in the middle.
Speaker 1: That's a very good one. It's underrated. It's people think
Speaker 1: it's a healthy cereal. It's not a healthy cereal. No,
Speaker 1: it's great marketing. It sounds healthy. Crackling oat bran fucking
Speaker 1: not healthy. Sugar pops. I love sugar pops. Never got
Speaker 1: into pops. My dad used to love or smacks. Smacks
Speaker 1: and pops were like. Never liked either of those. I liked.
Speaker 1: I was a big fruit loops guy. That was a
Speaker 1: class that love. I mean the chocolate, the ones you
Speaker 1: can't go. Reese's Peanut butter Puffs was crack. Remember when
Speaker 1: that came out. Yeah, that was crack. That was That's
Speaker 1: not breakfast, that's you know. That's the thing is I
Speaker 1: I tend to stay away from the puffs and go
Speaker 1: with more of the pebbles because of the roof of
Speaker 1: my mouth. The roof can get fucked up. And that's
Speaker 1: why I love the taste of Florida in September. Am
Speaker 1: I right? All right? Yeah? Well but you know, you
Speaker 1: eat some Captain Crunch. I love Captain Crunch and the
Speaker 1: crunch berries, but then I can't eat for two days.
Speaker 1: The roof damage is real. It's the same effect as
Speaker 1: when you take a piping hot bite of pizza and
Speaker 1: the cheese slides off and you get that little burn.
Speaker 1: This is the breakfast version of that Captain crunch. And
Speaker 1: you can't not eat pizza piping hot unless it's refrigerator cold,
Speaker 1: which I'm fine with it. I'm cool with cold pizza,
Speaker 1: but I love a hot hotli. Well, yeah, it either
Speaker 1: has to be burning my mouth or it has to
Speaker 1: be refrigerator cold for me. I can't do this fucking
Speaker 1: sind out for three hours thing. Yeah, that's horrible. Lukewarm pizzas, Like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing? I want a hard stance, definitely
Speaker 1: all right. So the broke the broken Curse of the
Speaker 1: Bambino is really the legacy of this game. Boston winning
Speaker 1: a three to zero comeback. I mean, I hate to
Speaker 1: say it. There's so many legacies in this game going on.
Speaker 1: That's why it's starts of legacies. It is one of
Speaker 1: the most iconic series and games. And it hurts to
Speaker 1: say this because this is kind of we did the
Speaker 1: eighteen wins in one Giant loss game, and this is
Speaker 1: kind of the flip of that where you got to
Speaker 1: give it up. I mean, this is an incredible you
Speaker 1: know how I think wins, everyone wins, not everyone lost.
Speaker 1: New York lost. The New York Boston rivalry that this
Speaker 1: it just nourishes it. Yeah, you're right, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: rivalry at this point. It was a rivalry, but Boston
Speaker 1: had won, hadn't won, and it makes that Boston New
Speaker 1: York thing like just that much better because, you know, rivalry,
Speaker 1: both teams have to win. That's why I never really
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, the New York Jets were rivals
Speaker 1: because they don't really beat us. But then you go
Speaker 1: with the Giant. Remember time Mark Sanchez knocks you guys
Speaker 1: out though, right, if you gotta win a super Bowl
Speaker 1: to have that, you know, he's also the guy that
Speaker 1: they hadn't won at this point. So then this game
Speaker 1: doesn't count either, yeah, because they hadn't won at this point.
Speaker 1: They hadn't so but afterwards the aftermath, because true, you know,
Speaker 1: it would have been a rivalry potential for one year
Speaker 1: if the Jets went on to win one of those
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I wish they won one. Just a championships. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a classic. They did a thirty for thirty
Speaker 1: called four Days in October on this. Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: not be watching, no, be sitting that one out. What's
Speaker 1: the lasting image for this? It's got to be something
Speaker 1: Big Poppy related or definitely that. And I I just
Speaker 1: remember watching Sports Center and you would see all these
Speaker 1: old Boston people, like I'm talking like eighty year olds,
Speaker 1: ninety year olds crying. Yeah, you know, people like this
Speaker 1: was like that was such a huge thing for Boston people.
Speaker 1: They love they of the Red Sox. It's a beautiful
Speaker 1: thing to share that with your with your kids, your grandkid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. There's got to be someone though, who was
Speaker 1: like on life support in a Red Sox hat, and
Speaker 1: he died like right before Big Poppy hit this home
Speaker 1: run anything. Yeah, definitely that's got a sting. It does.
Speaker 1: But then you know they probably afterwards they they cremated
Speaker 1: him and then and then they sprinkled them over to
Speaker 1: Fenway and and he grows as the grass. That's beautiful,
Speaker 1: you know. So that person who died and didn't get
Speaker 1: to see it is Fenway Park. Now, that's like that's
Speaker 1: gonna be like some sad novel. He grows with the Grass,
Speaker 1: a Boston tale, my dad who passed away just before
Speaker 1: David Ortiz hit the bomb. What do we forget? Jack? Oh?
Speaker 1: Not much? Pretty clean episode. Quick pronunciation check Bill Miller's
Speaker 1: Bill Miller. Kevin, he said, Kevin Miller, Yeah, Miller, Mila, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's uh, it's It's something I've been
Speaker 1: dealing with since third grade. It's all right, A little
Speaker 1: like remember Letterman at the Oscars Oprah I remember that
Speaker 1: kind of like that. What do you do? I remember
Speaker 1: he's doing like the oprah Uma Thurman thing. Mallar millh
Speaker 1: never mind, I don't remember. I don't remember, but Jack,
Speaker 1: I take your word for it, all right. We also
Speaker 1: talked Curse of the Bambino, or as some call it,
Speaker 1: the Curse of the Great Bambino. Great Bambino. Nineteen eighteen,
Speaker 1: we said, nineteen nineteen A couple of times night. Oh
Speaker 1: my bad. That was me nineteen eighteen, six years after
Speaker 1: the Titanic. I don't know why, but I'm obsessed with Titanic.
Speaker 1: I traded Ruth. Yeah, okay, but the course is at eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so adds up. You know you're right, You're spot on
Speaker 1: with the Titanic. I love, I love it was it
Speaker 1: April twelve, April fifteenth, I believe because that was my parents.
Speaker 1: That's my parents' wedding marriage thing. Anniversary, Yeah, the anniversary.
Speaker 1: We can call this game the A Night to Remember
Speaker 1: game and under the Titanic. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It also reminds Jules is fit. Reminds me of having
Speaker 1: to get the Great Bambinos baseball back from this Leary,
Speaker 1: the that you guys lost in Sandlot Leary. Oh that
Speaker 1: remember he was a dad with the great man being
Speaker 1: knows baseball. How did I mean, how did Dennis Leary
Speaker 1: pull off playing an asshole? That must have been really hard,
Speaker 1: uh performance for him? He's a Boston guy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he is a Boston guy. He was with the Fire
Speaker 1: Shows You Rescue Me Already was in that Already Lane.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I never saw the show. I love Already
Speaker 1: Lane too. So the naming of the game, the breaking
Speaker 1: of the curse. The curse is over, sorry, Sam, the
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts game. That's no no, uh, don't let us
Speaker 1: win tonight or we're not even gonna say the four
Speaker 1: days in October because there's a there's a thirty for thirty.
Speaker 1: This is game's name. It's it's the breaking of the
Speaker 1: curse because it is in action. It is the breaking
Speaker 1: of the curse. It's the curse isn't over yet. The
Speaker 1: curse is over when you beat the cardinals, but it
Speaker 1: is the process of breaking the curse. Definitely. I'm going
Speaker 1: with breaking of the curse as well. It's it's the
Speaker 1: breaking of the curse. Let's score it. Stakes are high.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred years in the May making almost ninety steaks.
Speaker 1: Are crazy with the individual game. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: winner go home, this is this is do or die.
Speaker 1: This is cornered animal mentality. What are we going? Eight
Speaker 1: eight eight eight eight eight nine nine to one? All right, fun,
Speaker 1: we'll go nine star power. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: stakes are as that high though, because they haven't won
Speaker 1: in that Yeah. Fuck, you're right, it's an one all right.
Speaker 1: Star power is high, dude. I mean this is a
Speaker 1: lot of bit I mean the amount of all stars
Speaker 1: we listed Hall of Famers. I mean there's like eight
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers on both teams. I'm sure in the
Speaker 1: stands you probably had Matt damon the ben word, are
Speaker 1: the B word? That's Jennifer? Yeah? Are they there? You think?
Speaker 1: Let me look? But now we should have we should
Speaker 1: have looked into that. But I mean, I think star
Speaker 1: power has got to be a nine nine. This is
Speaker 1: a high it's a high guy gameplay. It was a
Speaker 1: pretty good game. Unfortunately went to extra innings. There's a
Speaker 1: walk off, there's a fucking you know, a hit to
Speaker 1: get it into overtime or extra innings? Are we going
Speaker 1: like an a niner? God damn, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: one of our highest Oh the name is high to
Speaker 1: I hate I hate that this might Dude, is this
Speaker 1: gonna fucking overtake? Shit? The name is high, the name
Speaker 1: is like it's probably one of the biggest most are
Speaker 1: we going nine again on the name god? Nine one?
Speaker 1: I'm angry? How well this is scoring? Nine oh two
Speaker 1: five two. That's brutal? I know too. Is that a
Speaker 1: number one? It is number two behind what eighteen and one? Yeah, yees,
Speaker 1: can't win them all. We really got to reevaluate these scores. No,
Speaker 1: we don't. I think it. I think it works properly.
Speaker 1: I think the system works. I mean, I think those
Speaker 1: two are prove I mean those are those are those
Speaker 1: are two big games, and I mean, yeah they are.
Speaker 1: We're both Boston, New York, so it's appropriate that they're
Speaker 1: one and two. Hey, super Bowl, you gotta go super
Speaker 1: Bowl higher than a game four. Yeah, have to. It's
Speaker 1: one game, one game, bigger city, larger population. What about
Speaker 1: eighteen and oh and that was when nineteen and oh
Speaker 1: we stopped history? We per I agree with Sam Jacker Kyler.
Speaker 1: I agree with Sam, and unfortunately I'm on the short
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Speaker 1: We have appreciate you coming on taking time out of
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