WEBVTT - American Hypocrisy

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Brooklyn Bunker, Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start off today with talking about Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>and the news that we all saw yesterday, which showed

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most graphic images that we have seen

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<v Speaker 1>of what war actually looks like. And before I get

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<v Speaker 1>into the details of what we've learned thus far with

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<v Speaker 1>putin Russian soldiers, the lies that are being told by

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<v Speaker 1>the Kremlin, that are also being embraced by Fox News,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly people like Tucker Carlson, who remain a threat to

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<v Speaker 1>our national security and nothing is being done about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about war, just war in general.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why I say that is because as

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<v Speaker 1>we are watching these images and we are seeing this

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<v Speaker 1>the NonStop coverage in Ukraine, and if you are following

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<v Speaker 1>also on social media, a part of it can feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a video game. It can feel like you're watching

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<v Speaker 1>a movie or a story. We're so desensitized in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that we take in and absorb content these days.

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<v Speaker 1>We're always like this, you know, swiping on our phones,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the next thing, and just overstimulated. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>also desensitized and when it comes to the actions of war.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have seen in this country violence glorify

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<v Speaker 1>through video games, through movies, through narratives and stories and

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things. And when I saw the images

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm sure many of you did, out of Bucha,

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<v Speaker 1>which is outside of Kiev in Ukraine, and you see

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<v Speaker 1>human beings, human beings laying dead in the street as

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<v Speaker 1>if they are strown about, as if they are trash.

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<v Speaker 1>The images of dead bodies, people with their arms clasped

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<v Speaker 1>behind them, killed murdered execution style. There is a mass

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<v Speaker 1>grave in Bucha that has over one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>bodies in it, wrapped in plastic with appendages hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>There were images that I saw before I came to

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<v Speaker 1>record of parents writing the names and phone numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>relatives on their children's bodies. In the event that they

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<v Speaker 1>die and their young children are found are discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>on their body would be the numbers to call in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get them to safety. And I hearkened back

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<v Speaker 1>as I saw the images of those children and people saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most heartbreaking thing that I have seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to remind you that that is those images

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<v Speaker 1>of children with numbers written on them. Hearkens back to

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<v Speaker 1>what the Trump administration did at the border with undocumented immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>ripping children away from their families, and families desperately sprawling

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<v Speaker 1>any type of information that they could on the bodies

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<v Speaker 1>of their children. This is not new, and while it

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<v Speaker 1>is horrific and disgusting and shows the dregs of society

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<v Speaker 1>and where we are. I don't want us to solely

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<v Speaker 1>look at this situation, this war that is playing out

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<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine and somehow garner more empathy and thought and

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<v Speaker 1>outrage for this situation than we have previously. I say

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<v Speaker 1>that because I was on the phone recently catching up

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<v Speaker 1>with my sister and you know, one of her friends,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think was volunteering in a way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to how support help support refugees, and that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. And one of their other friends had said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, you know what I can do. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give money. I want to do something to help

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<v Speaker 1>the people in Ukraine. And the friend says, well, that's wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>but can you tell me why this time rather than

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<v Speaker 1>all of the other times that we have seen atrocities

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<v Speaker 1>and war breakout that I have been working on Are

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<v Speaker 1>you interested now? And it wasn't to say that you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be This is not this is this is not

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<v Speaker 1>me saying that you shouldn't be outraged, that tears shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>come to your eyes, that you shouldn't see these bodies

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<v Speaker 1>littering the streets of Buscha. Who were you know? But

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<v Speaker 1>days before, full complete souls right, People with loved ones,

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<v Speaker 1>family members, friends, stories that are now cut completely short.

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<v Speaker 1>People whose bodies are dumped into mass graves, that their families,

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<v Speaker 1>their friends will never know what happened to them, They'll

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<v Speaker 1>never have proper burials because by the time that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>is able to get in right and begin to sort

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<v Speaker 1>out the collection of these bodies, the decay right, and

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<v Speaker 1>who's coming in because you've had three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>million people flee so who's coming in to identify them?

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<v Speaker 1>How will they do this? And when I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>this out loud and my voice is quivering because I

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<v Speaker 1>just think about the pain, the suffering, the tragedy and

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<v Speaker 1>the trauma that we are seeing. And then I think

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<v Speaker 1>about also the mass graves that were just discovered in

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<v Speaker 1>these United States, that were filled with the remains of

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<v Speaker 1>Native American children who this country stole from their families,

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<v Speaker 1>put them in residential schools that were essentially legalized torture.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the kids that did not assimilate into Eurocentric ways,

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<v Speaker 1>were beaten, were killed and thrown away like trash. That's

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<v Speaker 1>in our recent history. There are mass graves that were

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<v Speaker 1>discovered in legacy black communities after lynching, mobs, ransacked, burned down,

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<v Speaker 1>and killed hundreds. Tulsa was not the only place. So

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<v Speaker 1>we look, folks, we look at what is happening in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, none of these things to take away

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<v Speaker 1>from what we are currently witnessing. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>us to continue to look at these images and look

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<v Speaker 1>at them as if they are isolated, or look at

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<v Speaker 1>these people as if they are the only ones that

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<v Speaker 1>have ever suffered, when we have had and continue to

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<v Speaker 1>have a legacy of suffering and trauma that is waged

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<v Speaker 1>against marginalized communities in this country as well. I want

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<v Speaker 1>us to be able to walk and chew gum at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. And I want us to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to look through a wider lens, a wider lens at

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<v Speaker 1>what we see as a humanitarian crisis around the world

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<v Speaker 1>and also in this country. You know, I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the midst and I'm still trying to I'm working on

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<v Speaker 1>an idea to pitch to an editor, a new editor

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<v Speaker 1>that I started working with. And you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>announced late last week, not announced, but there was a

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<v Speaker 1>speech that was given by Hassan L Thawadi, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary General of Qatar, which is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>hosting for the first time ever in the Arab world

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<v Speaker 1>the World Cup, and the Secretary General gave a speech

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<v Speaker 1>about the importance of this moment and how the people

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<v Speaker 1>of the Arab world for the first time will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to set their own narrative and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>push back against the stereotypes that have plagued them in

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<v Speaker 1>the conflict lens through which we view the Middle East

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<v Speaker 1>and have the Middle East since two thousand and two

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<v Speaker 1>when George W. Bush in the State of the Union

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<v Speaker 1>referred to that region of the world the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>and he tacked on North Korea as the axis of evil.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been thinking about it, and I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the speech that the Secretary General gave of Qatar

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about narratives and how they are set and

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<v Speaker 1>how they spread, and thinking about, you know, in all honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>how we are watching this kind of new light, new

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<v Speaker 1>emergence of the Middle East, and these very cosmopolitan and

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<v Speaker 1>very wealthy countries and cities, you know, are being put

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<v Speaker 1>on the map, whether they're age or fashion events that

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<v Speaker 1>are happening in Doah, whether there are you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>major events that are happening in Dubai. We're watching right

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<v Speaker 1>this shifting lens with regard to how certain countries within

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East are viewed. And I started to think

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<v Speaker 1>to myself about how we've allowed the United States to

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<v Speaker 1>lead the narrative, to craft the narrative around this quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote access of evil, and how the United States has

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<v Speaker 1>always been able to admonish other countries for their wrongdoing

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<v Speaker 1>because we have the biggest mic and the best pr

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<v Speaker 1>And we want to talk now about Putin's war crimes

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<v Speaker 1>and genocide and the things that he are doing, all

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<v Speaker 1>of which are absolutely true. But do we ever talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the ways that the United States has gone into

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<v Speaker 1>countries like Iraq and Iran and Afghanistan, which most recently

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<v Speaker 1>we can see that we go into these places, we

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<v Speaker 1>destroy communities, we kill children and women and men, and

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<v Speaker 1>we decide that these people are all terrorists, right and

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<v Speaker 1>undeserving of safety and sympathy, and we paint ourselves as

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<v Speaker 1>the heroes right as we address and bring to the

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<v Speaker 1>world their human rights violations. Well, folks, I started to

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<v Speaker 1>think about that state of the Union from two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two. I started to think about who we've allowed

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<v Speaker 1>the American government to identify as evil, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>started to think about how what is happening in this

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<v Speaker 1>country at the hands of the radical right is no

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<v Speaker 1>different than the things that we have used to admonish

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<v Speaker 1>China as well as the Middle East and other countries

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<v Speaker 1>that the United States has found itself looking its nose

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<v Speaker 1>down at. Right now, in the United States, we are

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<v Speaker 1>in two months three months about to lose Roby Wade.

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<v Speaker 1>Women and people with uteruses in this country will no

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<v Speaker 1>longer be able to access abortion. You will have certain

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<v Speaker 1>blue states while there is a Democratic president that is

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<v Speaker 1>in office that will become abortion sanctuary states and sanctuary cities.

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<v Speaker 1>But overtly around the country, the United States will no

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<v Speaker 1>longer have abortion access for women and people with uteruses.

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<v Speaker 1>We have rolled out right over four hundred voter suppression

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<v Speaker 1>laws in damn near every state of the country. We

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<v Speaker 1>have just watched Florida past there don't say gay legislation

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<v Speaker 1>and death santists gleefully signed that into law. We are

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<v Speaker 1>watching Governor Abbott wage an assault against voting access as

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<v Speaker 1>well as abortion in the state of Texas. Over this

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<v Speaker 1>past weekend, there were not one, but two mass shootings

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<v Speaker 1>that took place, One in Sacramento that killed six people

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe injured twelve. Another at a Dallas concert

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<v Speaker 1>that killed one person and injured a dozen. When you

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<v Speaker 1>look at America on paper or in real life, who

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck are we to be talking about anybody's access

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<v Speaker 1>of evil when we are in the midst of America's

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<v Speaker 1>great regression. Not only is our gun violence at an

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<v Speaker 1>all time fucking high. The only time that we saw

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<v Speaker 1>are rescinding in the numbers of people and the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of mass shooting was when we had quarantine in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and schools were shut down. Not it didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to do with of course, no policy that was

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<v Speaker 1>put into place right had had everything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>another killer, a virus that would shutter businesses and doors

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<v Speaker 1>and schools, And that would be the only reason. While

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<v Speaker 1>on a monthly basis, there wasn't a series of mass

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<v Speaker 1>shooting headlines. When the news even broke over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty much like a blip on social media

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<v Speaker 1>until yesterday when a man hunt was underweighed. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>exciting for the media. There's a man hunt, so now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to cover it. But when I'm taking all

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<v Speaker 1>of these different pieces, the anti gay, anti trans, anti women,

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<v Speaker 1>anti black, anti voting, anti democracy, all of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened in this country over just the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, since the reign of Trump began in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, and Trump is m became a thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>regression that we have seen in our democracy is at

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<v Speaker 1>lightning pace. So how is it that we have ever

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<v Speaker 1>been able to look at any other country and have

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<v Speaker 1>the audacity to talk about human rights violations and women's

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<v Speaker 1>rights and girls should have rights to learn and this,

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<v Speaker 1>that and the other thing when we can still dictate

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<v Speaker 1>in America, one of the wealthiest fucking countries in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>the life expectancy of a child based on their zip code.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it that this administration just yesterday released a

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<v Speaker 1>plan to retrofit schools and have clean energy and all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, and our schools haven't seen any type

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<v Speaker 1>of upgrade. You want to talk about infrastructure, unless you

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<v Speaker 1>are living in a wealthy school district. Most schools haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen any type of retrofitting. I think since the world would,

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<v Speaker 1>since the word's been invented. So when you take these things,

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<v Speaker 1>when you take these issues that are plaguing America and

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<v Speaker 1>have been plaguing America and are being so instituted at

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<v Speaker 1>the hands of the radical right, how is it that

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<v Speaker 1>we have allowed them to talk about other places in

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<v Speaker 1>the world as being uncivilized where I don't see anything

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<v Speaker 1>civilized about what is happening in America and what has

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<v Speaker 1>happened in America or at the hands of the American

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<v Speaker 1>government around the world. Right, at least those other countries,

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<v Speaker 1>they're upfront and honest about their shit. What I realize

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<v Speaker 1>about America is that America is the biggest front. They

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<v Speaker 1>front like they give a fuck about women's rights. But

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<v Speaker 1>yet every March we acknowledge equal pay day and show

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<v Speaker 1>the disparity. But yet for decades and decades and decades

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<v Speaker 1>have had no equal pay passed, no equal pay bill passed.

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<v Speaker 1>We have consistent conversations right that want to make us

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<v Speaker 1>feel good, and I hear tough talk. Right, Congress needs

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<v Speaker 1>to do something out of every president's mouth, whether Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>or Republican, and yet get dick done. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>again talk about the devastation of gun violence, and then

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<v Speaker 1>in the same breath to say, but now is not

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<v Speaker 1>the time to politicize it. So let's do the politicizing

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<v Speaker 1>of it when it's not in the news, which at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, when is gun violence not in the news.

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.800
<v Speaker 1>We have literally a mass shooting that happens a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a mass shooting is four or more people being

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<v Speaker 1>shot at one time. The only time that it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to really catch the headlines is if we're talking multiple bodies. So,

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<v Speaker 1>while we're looking at the images coming out of Bouscha,

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<v Speaker 1>and rightfully so with horror, with this Dane, if we

0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>were to take those same photos, minus the blown out buildings,

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you would see bodies littered all over the streets of

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<v Speaker 1>America every fucking day. So how is it that we

0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:42.719
<v Speaker 1>can conjure the outrage and the empathy directed at the

0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 1>people of Ukraine, but we're not recognizing how many people

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<v Speaker 1>we are allowing to perish because of gun violence every

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<v Speaker 1>single day in this country because both sides are bought

0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and sold by the gun lobby, and that even when

0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are in charge, are in power, they still don't

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<v Speaker 1>pass fucking legislation that were to reduce mass shootings and

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<v Speaker 1>make this country safer. Why because we also have within

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<v Speaker 1>our own ranks people that are fronted like they are

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<v Speaker 1>fucking democrats, knowing, good God damn well, cinema and mansion

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and others that you're not. I'm just tired of America

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<v Speaker 1>going around the globe selling this lie of exceptionalism, selling

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<v Speaker 1>this lie and wagging our finger and turning down our

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<v Speaker 1>nose at other nations and not taking a hard fucking

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:53.119
<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror and looking at what hypocrites we

0:21:53.280 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 1>look like now. I mean, it's it's incredible. Every day

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.359
<v Speaker 1>during the Trump administration, I would get on here and

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>just think to myself, like, Wow, beliefs that I had

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that I thought were laws, that I thought were common

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:23.919
<v Speaker 1>values that we shared as a nation of democracy, of voting,

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<v Speaker 1>of fairness, of legitimacy, of accountability. We don't. And I

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<v Speaker 1>say that as a black queer woman, knowing, good God

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<v Speaker 1>damn well that black people all that things that I've

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<v Speaker 1>listed have never experienced in this country, not in any

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<v Speaker 1>full throated type of way. It's why my other show

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<v Speaker 1>is called democracy Ish, because we don't experience democracy. It

0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>is something that we have continually had to fight for

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<v Speaker 1>to have our ability to cast a vote. Right. You

0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>just saw that down in Florida. Federal judge said, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>so now you all are not allowed to change your

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>laws anymore, because there is no way to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the changes that you have made to your voting restrictions

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and not see it as racist because it only impacts

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the black people in this state. They are saying the

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<v Speaker 1>quiet parts out loud, and yet we are still looking

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<v Speaker 1>at other countries and saying, oh, poor them, and not

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>looking in our own front and backyard and being like, Yo,

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:48.719
<v Speaker 1>what is happening here? What's happening in this country? You know,

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I went on a radio show, went on a radio

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:59.640
<v Speaker 1>show that I do once a month out of Philly WRUD.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the very few black radio stations still

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>left in the country. And one of the conversations that

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we had yesterday morning was with regard to reparations. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, California apparently has passed legislation or they're thinking

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>about it with regard to reparations and how to provide

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>reparations to black people. So, but they want to do

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it in a neutral way. Do you know what is

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>becoming one of the most hated words, one of my

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>most hated words. Neutral. There is no fucking such thing.

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Neutrality is bullshit, right. Neutrality is something that cis gendered,

0:24:55.119 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>straight white men made up to make themselves elves the

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>default and make everything else othered, including their own fucking wives.

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 1>So when we used to say, oh, the news should

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>be neutral, the news was always coming through sis hetero

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>male perspective. But because they had made themselves the default,

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>we believe that neutrality actually existed. But it wasn't. It's

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the world seen through one set of eyes, one community's

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>set of eyes. So how would California go about turning

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>something such as chattel slavery and then the hundred years

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 1>that would follow it of Jim Crow, which was based

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<v Speaker 1>on anything but neutral beliefs about what it is and

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't that black people in this country deserve right, namely

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>dignity and respect. How is it that you would take

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>the atrocities that our ancestors lived through, died through, and

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 1>then turn around and tell me that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>place a neutral lens over it to think about how

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you distribute resources, whether it be cash, money or changes

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to policy that would make up for the genocide that

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<v Speaker 1>happened at the hands of white America against Black America

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>since sixteen nineteen. How does that work exactly? And what

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 1>I said on the show is that if we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come from a place of honesty in talking

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>about the atrocities that were faced, right, that people had

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to live through. Like, I don't think that sometimes we

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>all wrap our minds, but at least, you know, every

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 1>once in a while, I kind of sit back and

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I think to myself, how many generations of black suffering

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>had people had to fight and live through in order

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>for me to exist? Right? Like, I want folks, particularly

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>black folks, to think about that for a minute. How

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>much suffering and trauma and torture and discrimination and hate

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and rape and violence that our ancestors had to live

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>through and order for us to exist today. And the

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>thing about it why I get really frustrated with the

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation around reparations is because we're always told, well, how

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>will we figure out I'm like, if you are black

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and live in this country, live in this world. You

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>are a descendant of an enslaved African person, right, Like

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>people want to say, like, oh yeah, there were those

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that didn't get caught, or there were this, that and

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.919
<v Speaker 1>the other thing, you are a descendant of that, and

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>if not, you were certainly a fucking descendant of Jim Crow.

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>So for us to try and put a neutralized lens

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>over America's original sin as a way to repay the

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>debt that was that to repay the debt that America

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>owes of the extracted labor right and genocide that it committed,

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is just absolute bullshit, right, Like just absolute fuckery. And

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>so I want and the other lie that I push

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<v Speaker 1>back against as well, is oh, well, we just don't

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>have the money. If I hear that fucking lie one

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>more time, like, on one hand, you want to tell

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>me that America is the wealthiest nation in the world,

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and then on the other hand, you want to tell

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>me that you don't have any money. Right. It's like

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>when Donald Trump was just like, I am the smartest

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>person ever and I alone can fix this. But oh

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that I broke Emoliaman's clauses oh, I,

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't mean those tweets that I sent

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that almost you know, put us into nuclear war, Like

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 1>you're you're either a genius or you're too fucking dumb.

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Which one is it? Right? Which one is it? Because

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>both can't be true. You can't both be the wealthiest

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>nation in the world but then not have the funds

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to be able to resource right the basic traumas and

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 1>genocides that you have caused, right, and how that has

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that into the racial wealth gap that continues to widen

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>in this country because all of the policies that we

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have are based on racism put through that quote unquote

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>neutral lens that just so happened to exclude everyone who

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>was in white or male. From the g I Bill

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>right to the creation of Levitt Town, and on any

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>single policy that was created with the idea of how

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to support uplift the middle class, create the middle class,

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>did so purposefully without women being included and without black

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>people being included. So for me, don't tell me that

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the money, Just tell me you don't

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>want to. You don't want to give it to the

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>people whose ancestors you stole from, Because what I would say,

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>is that before we start talking about dollars and cents,

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>how about you institute federal policies that are directed at

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>righting the wrongs. How about you, oh, I don't know,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, with the flick of your pen, a race

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>student loan debt, which affects more black and brown people

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>than it does any other group because they are have

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>always been the ones that were told that they needed

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>to be more and do more in order to compete

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>in this racist ass country. And then they get saddled

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>with this debt because their parents, their families aren't the

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>ones that have the resources, again from extracted fucking labor

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and from loans from the federal government to start said

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>businesses and send kids to school and buy homes that

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>all would accumulate value over time and be able to

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>pass down from generation to generation. So you owe that

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>at the very fucking least. But those aren't the conversations

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that we have, because then we want to get into

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this all people deserve shit, just like how we want

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to talk about black lives matter, and then people say, well,

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>all lives matter. Well, if all lives did matter, right,

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have to specifically single out black people would

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I because we wouldn't have had to wait sixty years

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>for an anti lynching bill after a fourteen year old

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>boy was brutally murdered, if all lives actually fucking mattered. Oh,

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't have the money, but we can send right

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars budgets with billions, hundreds of billions of dollars

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>for our fucking military. But you're telling me we can't

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>erase student loan debt to alleviate the noose, the financial

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>noose that this country has put around the necks of

0:32:56.040 --> 0:33:01.479
<v Speaker 1>black and brown people. The fuck out of here. You

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>want to tell me that we can't make college free

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>for black and brown people in this country? Like, if

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to talk to me about specific dollar

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>amount reparations, then how about we go back to the

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>housing crisis in the early two thousands that saw black

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>homeowners lose their homes at double plus the rate because

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they were the ones that the predatory lenders went to.

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>You don't see the United States giving those people back

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>what they lost, right, you don't see them. You didn't

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>see them making sure that Wall Street fucking hustlers would

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>be held accountable and have to pay back what they

0:33:52.240 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>stall now, and that again under a fucking Democrat. So

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm tired of having conversations that are intellectually

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>dishonest when we are talking about reparations and what is

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>deserving and who deserves what, and how do we decide?

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>How about we acknowledge the generational harm and trauma and

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>violence that has been perpetuated against the black community, and

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>then we look at policy solves and then you talk

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 1>to me about dollars and cents later, but don't talk

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>to me about how well we need to make this

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>free for everybody or we need to do us No

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>white people have gotten enough, and I will say that

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>again and piss a whole lot of people off. White

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>America has gotten enough. It is time that if we

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>actually are serious about closing the racial wealth got if

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>we are serious about addressing systemic racism, then we do

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:10.600
<v Speaker 1>targeted responses to the communities that have experienced the most

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking harm. But the reality is we're not serious. We

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>don't care. Not Republicans for Fox, sure, but not Democrats either.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Because the conversation that I had last week with my

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>colleague was Jahat Ali on democracy ish And if you're

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>not listening to democracy issue. You can get it wherever

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you get your podcasts on democracy ish, we said, we

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>had a whole conversation around what Martin Luther King had

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>coined back in nineteen sixty three and letter to a

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Birmingham jail when he said, no, it will not be

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the klu Klux Klansmen, right, the klu Klux Klansmen actually

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>isn't our greatest obstacle to justice in America. It is

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the white moderate. It is the both sidesism, which I

0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>will add, it is the white moderate that will say, oh,

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a matter of law, not a matter of justice.

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>We need law and order, we need these things. You've

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:15.600
<v Speaker 1>allowed the white moderates quote unquote moderates to disrupt Biden's

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>entire agenda. You have King Cole fucking Joe Mansion is

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>head chair of the Energy Committee in the Senate, Like,

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>we're not honest about the change. Like, so you can

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to really good speeches about climate change, but who's

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>chairing your energy committee. The man that torpedoed multiple clean

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 1>energy acts and didn't like the climate language within the

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>infrastructure bills. It was taken out because it would offend

0:36:54.120 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>his bottom line. Because of his legal connections to Big Cole.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you tell me that you're serious but

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<v Speaker 1>not serious? That's how you tell me? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that you care about black people but you

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<v Speaker 1>really don't care about them? You pass an anti lynching

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<v Speaker 1>bill sixty years after the most the most egregious lynching

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<v Speaker 1>that the world had ever seen. Right, you passed that

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<v Speaker 1>sixty years later, and then tell me that's what that's

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<v Speaker 1>what progress and change looks like. So I guess, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said last week, we'll wait another sixty years until

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<v Speaker 1>the George Floyd Policing Act has passed as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll look back and whoever is president of whatever

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:48.680
<v Speaker 1>fascious nation America has turned into will be like, oh,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>look at us. I'm tired of patting this country on

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<v Speaker 1>the back for doing the bare fucking minimum. An anti

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 1>lynching bill should have been light work. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you had three Republicans that voted against it today,

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<v Speaker 1>in this day and age, shows you who and where

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<v Speaker 1>we are now, folks. I want to make the transition

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<v Speaker 1>quickly into talking picking up where the conversation with Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>Kirshner left off yesterday and talking about the insurrection and

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<v Speaker 1>where things stand with this Department of Justice. Again, over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, you had a great piece written in The

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times by Katie Benner, Katie Rogers, and Michael S.

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<v Speaker 1>Schmidt entitled Garland faces growing precious as January six investigation widens. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we did get good news right that Glenn walked us through,

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<v Speaker 1>that there were signals and signs that the investigation has expanded,

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<v Speaker 1>that when Merritt Garland said in January of twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>that we were going to look everywhere at both the

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<v Speaker 1>foot soldiers of the insurrections as well as those donors

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<v Speaker 1>that supported them. And I'll tell you that what gets

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<v Speaker 1>me about this article, and what gets me about Garland

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<v Speaker 1>in general, is that everybody is pissed off at this man,

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<v Speaker 1>like he is moving at a sloth's pace, and that

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<v Speaker 1>every time that I turn on the TV and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>listening to strategists and Democrats say with deep frustration, like

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<v Speaker 1>there is more than enough fucking evidence to indict Donald Trump,

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to indict Mark Meadows. Right, We're begging the Justice Department

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<v Speaker 1>to do its fucking job, and I'm just confused as

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<v Speaker 1>to why. So they say in this article that the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General's deliberative approach has come to frustrate democratic allies

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<v Speaker 1>of the White House and at times, the President himself.

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<v Speaker 1>As recently as late last year, mister Biden confided to

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<v Speaker 1>his inner circle that he believed former President Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was a threat to democracy and should be prosecuted, according

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<v Speaker 1>to two people familiar with his comments, And while the

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<v Speaker 1>President has never communicated his frustrations directly to Merritt Garland,

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<v Speaker 1>he has said privately he wanted Garland to act less

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<v Speaker 1>like a ponderous judge and more like a prosecutor who

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<v Speaker 1>was willing to take decisive action over the events of

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<v Speaker 1>January sixth, And this article will go on to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone is always so concerned about their fucking legacy,

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and I find it laughable in a country that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually teach history, right, that doesn't actually teach the fucking

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>truth about history. So I'm never confused. I'm always confused

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>about why people are so concerned about their legacy. And

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Barr said it right, like, I don't give a

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<v Speaker 1>fuck about my legacy, right, remember, and CBS he was

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 1>just like, they're like, what about your legacy? And He's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, I'm all like, I'm good. You know,

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get mine while I'm still breathing, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>so when I hear this, oh, people are worried about

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<v Speaker 1>the legacy, I'm just like, and who is writing that story?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm certain that by the time that it matters,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be banned anyway. But this is what Representative

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<v Speaker 1>Elaine Luria, Democrat out of Virginia, said about Garland. The

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice must move swiftly. Attorney General Garland, do

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<v Speaker 1>your job so that we can do ours. In a statement,

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Bates, a White House spokesman, said the President believed

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<v Speaker 1>that mister Garland had decisively restored the independence of the

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department. But what is being said in here is

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't communicate at all. Right, There's no communication

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<v Speaker 1>between the White House and the Department of Justice, and

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<v Speaker 1>so there is an overcorrection that has happened from the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump days. Now we know that Trump was hot on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter cursing out Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr, calling them

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<v Speaker 1>to the White House via tweet, But how do you

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<v Speaker 1>have no communication with your attorney general when both of

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<v Speaker 1>your legacies, Again, that word hang in the balance with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to making it definitively so than any attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>overthrow the government will be met with the full force

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<v Speaker 1>of the Department of Justice. So I remain confused about

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<v Speaker 1>where this is going, how quickly we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>see anything, and whether or not this Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>is actually set up to do its job and do

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<v Speaker 1>so in an expedient way that restores not the integrity

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>or perception of integrity, but the actual faith in institutions

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<v Speaker 1>that Americans have lost over the last few years. That friends,

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<v Speaker 1>is left up for debate. That is it for me

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<v Speaker 1>today here on woke f as always Power to the

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 1>people and to all the people. Power, get woke and

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<v Speaker 1>stay woke as fuck.