1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Welcome 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: back humans, this is stuff they don't want you to know. 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: With your hosts. I'm Ben and I'm married, and today 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: we are talking about something that is might might sound 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: pretty silly to some people, but a few centuries ago 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: terrified entire countries, so this was very serious back in 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: the day. We are talking about where wolves or if 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: you want to be fancy about it, licanthropes, Yes, uh 11 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: like canthropy. The idea that a human being could turn 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: into a wolf is um kind of a specific manifestation 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: of a much older, much more general idea of something 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: called theory and trophy. And uh, this mispronunciation that I 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: have just made is about um. It comes from a 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Greek idea of just a human who can turn into 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: a beast, which shape exactly. Yeah. And what's weird about 18 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: this is that across the spectrum of cultures of time 19 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: and space, all human beings have, at some point in 20 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: their early uh folklore beliefs or spiritual beliefs, thought that uh, 21 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: humans themselves could change into animals, or that humans came 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: from some sort of animal, or that gods might be 23 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: combinations of animal and human characteristics, or yeah, or that 24 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: a god could turn someone into an animal if they 25 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: wanted to, as a curse for instance. Well, and the 26 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: coolest thing about that is that throughout the in the 27 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: different cultures, it's in there. It's not everyone's not turning 28 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: people into wolves or being able to turn into wolves. 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: But they are turning into in these stories, into carnivorous, 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: scary animals generally, right, yeah, And they might or they 31 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: might be turned into If they're turned into something that 32 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: isn't carnivorous, then often it's because they have some sort 33 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: of spiritual kinship with it, or because they are cursed, 34 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, like the old, the old idea that a 35 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: um a witch could use a magic bridle to turn 36 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: somebody into a horse and ride them away to a 37 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: black sabbath or something, you know, or into a frog 38 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: that could easily be squeehed. Right, yeah, exactly, And that 39 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: comes in through fairy tales and stuff too. But we 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: know that, Okay, so we know that this predates our 41 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: written records. When I say our matt, you know, of 42 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: course they don't mean you and I. I mean it's 43 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: just humanities written records. Yeah, it goes all the way 44 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: back to one of the earliest story he's the epic 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: of Gilgamesh. Basically, Gilgamesh is like, look, I don't want 46 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: to be your lover, Ishtar, because you've been treating your 47 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: lovers pretty poorly. Okay, you you turned one of your 48 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: lovers into a wolf and you made him. Oh, because 49 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: here's the really bad part. The guy was a shepherd. 50 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Ishtar turned him into a wolf, and now he's the 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: enemy not only of a sheep, but also of his 52 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: best friends, his dogs. No, don't do that. That sounds 53 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: like classic Gilgamesh. There's UH. There's another thing that might 54 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: surprise a lot of people. That's that the idea of changing. 55 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: While the idea of changing into various animals existed for 56 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: a very long time, UM, the animals were often gonna 57 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: be like the predators or the apex animals associated with 58 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: that region. So in Native American war there were often 59 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: stories of where bears um. One thing that's strange to 60 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: me is that UH in Central Asia in a lot 61 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: of places, UH. Central Asia had this weird reputation for 62 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: a long time of being a home of where dogs 63 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: basically people who could change into wild dogs. And strange 64 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: when you think about it, because um Chinese legends had 65 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: the idea of this where these ware dogs, and the 66 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: far West would be the far West for China. The 67 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: European idea of these dog men, which might recognize from 68 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: some of the purported reports of Marco Polo, who people 69 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: still aren't sure if you actually existed, at least the 70 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: idea we have of Marco Polo. Story for another day. Anyway, 71 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: dogmen mentioned in the famous travels of Marco Polo uh 72 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: were placed by Europeans somewhere in the east. So trying 73 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: to say it's West Europe, saying it's in the east, 74 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: Hindu mythology uh puts them in the far north of India. UH. 75 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: So it's weird. They're all these rumors about this one 76 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: place somewhere in shady Eurasia where people are turning into 77 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: dogs and back into men. It's very love crafty and 78 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: I think it's man. We can also put the kabash 79 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: on a lot of the questions that some people doubtlessly 80 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: asked themselves when they clicked on the title for this episode, 81 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: which was hey Ben and Matt, are you going to 82 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: reveal some truth? Are you gonna tell us that werewolves 83 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: are real? Yes? Oh oh wait, is that when we 84 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I got it wrong in my notes that you're right, 85 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. We're we aren't, but 86 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: we we were interested in this episode because way back 87 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: in the days of your and the shadowy past of 88 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know, you and I 89 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: covered the idea of werewolves and a troubling explanation for 90 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: for this concept. Right, yeah, that's right, And it was 91 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: actually just as a historical note. It was the first 92 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: video that went up on our new channel when we 93 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: started our new channel. Ah, yeah, that's right. We have 94 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: our our street names should be two channels because we 95 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: saw videos on how stuff works, and we still have 96 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: videos on a new channel which is just conspiracy stuff 97 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: and stuff that want you to know. But we do 98 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: know that there have been numerous cases throughout history of 99 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: people being tried and executed after conviction of like Cantherpy, 100 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: which was historically also uh subset of witchcraft in general, right, 101 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: devil worshiping. So uh so we know that there are 102 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: some old, old cases. We um we talked about a 103 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: couple of them in our video podcast. Right, Uh, Peter Stump, 104 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I think we mentioned him and uh, he's one of 105 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: the people who said, Yeah, I did it, I turned 106 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: into a wolf and I ate those kids. Now do 107 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: it again and sad a skin or a belt or 108 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: something that could help him turn into a werewolf, right, yeah, 109 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: which is one of the um one of the historically 110 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: more popular ways of turning into a werewolf. He said 111 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: that he had he had been given a magic belt 112 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: by the devil, if I recall correctly, and that when 113 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: he anointed this belt um in the proper ritualized fashion, 114 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: he was able to uh put it on, and his 115 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: form would change to that of a wolf. And all 116 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: that the devil required of him to do at that 117 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: point was to kill and murder as he saw fit. Um, 118 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, until dawn. Uh. Then there's another case, um, 119 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: a very old case where this this guy named or 120 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: I said, say, kid, check this out, Matt. This guy, 121 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: Jean Grenier Um was only thirteen when he confessed that 122 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: he was a wolf, and he had been since he 123 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: was ten years old. That a man in the forest 124 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: or a man of the forest gave him a potion 125 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: infer to transform and he said that he had been 126 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: not only transforming into a werewolf, but had been eating 127 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: dogs and infants and little girl. Um yeah, and that's 128 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: a sad case because you know, a kid at that 129 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: age could easily be um bullied into confessing something they 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: didn't do and'd be very interested to hear the stuff 131 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know about that story, or 132 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: maybe drugged and manipulated by somebody. But here's where we 133 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: get to some weird stuff. You'll notice that he said 134 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: he had a skin and that he took a potion. 135 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: There are a couple of different ways historically to transform 136 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: into a werewolf, right, yeah. So one of the ways, 137 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: which you mentioned already with our boy Peter s not 138 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: really our boy, ps uh, is the idea that you 139 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: can take off your clothes, put on a wolf skin 140 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: belt or pelt, and then uh transform. Another idea is 141 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: that you rubbed yourself with something, maybe the fat or 142 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: blood of a wolf, or the fat or blood of 143 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: an unbaptized child or something, and then you could even 144 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: do something as simple as drinking rainwater out of the 145 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: footprint of the animal you want to transform into. So 146 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: don't pick something lame like a muskrat, or a badger. 147 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna be uh, it's gonna be scared of that. 148 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: You can't really further your cause of evil and satanism 149 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: with that. UM. What one interesting thing that I've learned 150 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: is we were going as we were researching this, is 151 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: that one of the ways to transform back into a 152 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: human if you're a werewolf and you don't want to 153 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: be the werewolf anymore, or you have the ability to 154 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: understand that you're a warewolf, because sometimes it's just this 155 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: rage that you go into, depending on what a story 156 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: of wherewolf you're in, UM, is to put your human 157 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: clothes back on. So that's really strange to me. Just 158 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: that's all you gotta do, put your clothes back on. 159 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: Now you're good. Yeah, and it says a lot. I 160 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: think there's somebody who's probably made a PhD or a 161 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: dissertation off of analyzing that relationship between what what clothing 162 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: says about humanity verse his animal nature. But you know, 163 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: in other countries, being becoming a werewolf, were becoming a 164 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: wolf was frighteningly easy in uh. In one case parts 165 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: of Sweden. UH, there was the idea that you could 166 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: just drink special kind of beer and repeat a magic formula, 167 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: just like Captain Marvel would say shazam. Uh. In parts 168 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: of Europe, including Italy and Germany, Uh, it would be 169 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: easy enough as just sleeping outside on a summer night 170 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: with the full moon shining on you on a particular 171 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday or Friday, and then boom your wolf. Accidentally you 172 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: got caught up in the wolf game. That's what happened. Uh. 173 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: So where you went those few weeks? Okay, sure, well, 174 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: I'll believe it. But clearly, when we're we're being a 175 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: little offhand about this, when we're talking about stuff that 176 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: could be serious. One thing that is a serious note 177 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: that we need to make is that you and I 178 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: said at the top that this idea seems funny to us. 179 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: Now seems a bit you know, provincial and bit gullible maybe, 180 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: But at the time, the average human being was much 181 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: more likely to run into dangerous wild animals. Oh yeah, 182 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: dangerous wild wild animals. And there wasn't a lot of 183 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: surveillance going on with people by police forces or any 184 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: other enforcement agencies. It was kind of it was a 185 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: scary world out there in the dark. There weren't a 186 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: lot of lights. There's danger, there's real danger when you 187 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: go out into the woods at night. Right, and depending 188 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: upon the time of year, in the dark of winter, 189 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: wild animals that would usually be intelligent enough to avoid humans, 190 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: or at least worry enough not to be seen by them, 191 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: uh would be driven by hunger to attack someone who 192 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: might be easy prey. So there really were packs of 193 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: wolves attacking people who, for one reason or another, we're 194 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: traveling by their lonesome in the dark of winter in 195 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: the forest. That that stuff actually happened. And we know 196 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: that licanhropes um have a role to play even in 197 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: biblical canons, So this isn't just pagan stuff, uh St 198 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Right? St Patrick, the Irish guy apparently transformed the 199 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Welsh king very Ticus into a wolf. And then there 200 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: are other miracles by saints that you know clearly echo 201 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: these pre existing pagan traditions um, which makes me makes 202 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: me think that now we've talked enough about the magic, right, 203 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: maybe it's time for us to get into some more 204 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: real life explanations or some some current theories about what, yeah, 205 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: what could these stories really be about? Yeah? But before 206 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: we do that, it's time for a word from our 207 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: sponsor sponsor today, Great, hey, Are you tired of wearing 208 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the same old shape? 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Bad Dog Enterprises 235 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: is a subsidiary of illumination unlimited global and we're back. 236 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: Uh that Yeah, that's a word from our sponsor, Bad Dogs. 237 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: So now it's time to talk a little bit about 238 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: like can therapy as we understand it in the modern day. 239 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: We know that there are two things that closely equate 240 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: to like can therapy. UM here uh in the twenty 241 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: one century where we have the benefit of science, and 242 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: one of those cases is something called hypertrichosis, which is 243 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: a UM a very rare genetic condition that results in 244 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: human being being covered with fur. Now, these people still 245 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: have completely human anatomy. They are totally human beings. They're 246 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: not monsters at all. Um, they just have a condition 247 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: that produces an abnormal amount of hair, really thick hair 248 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: to write all over their bodies. Right, and if you could, 249 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: if you check out the pictures, Um, there is to 250 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: be completely honest. Uh. There is a passing resemblance to 251 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: Lawn Cheney's The Wolfman, the original version of what we 252 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: think a werewolf looks like, or at least this right, 253 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: if you grew up in the US. Right. Then there 254 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: is the other condition, which is dark, uh. And that 255 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: is like cantherrapy as a mental illness. That is, somebody 256 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: who has the belief that they somehow transform into a 257 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: wolf physically or some sort of mad beast, or they 258 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: believe that they have the mind of a beast. And 259 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, the word like cantherrapy actually comes from that, 260 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: the idea of a mental illness where a push a 261 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: person is delusional in thinking that they can actually become 262 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: a werewolf. Right. And there are a couple of things 263 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: here that we should go ahead and just knock out 264 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,479 Speaker 1: in our address. Um, there are there is a community 265 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: of people, um who refer to themselves as other kids. 266 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: And these are people who identify UM often on a 267 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: spiritual or perhaps metaphysical level with a particular animal, one 268 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: that could be regarded as real or one that could 269 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: be regarded as fictitious. So we're not lumping in these people, 270 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: are this community with someone who suffers from the mental 271 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: disorder of like antherapy. Um, Neither are we lumping uh 272 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: these mental disorders in with the sad, unfortunate case of 273 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: what's often referred to as feral children. Um. There are 274 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: real kids who throughout history have been found living with 275 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: wild animals with very little contact with human beings. It 276 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: doesn't happen is often now, but the results are are 277 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: documented and there are tragic. It turns out that there 278 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: is a window of time for learning human language after 279 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: which a person can't do it too well. And language 280 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: isn't the only thing that can be impaired if it's 281 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: not learned within a certain time span. Walking on two 282 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: legs is part of that. There's so many, so many 283 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: social uh physical actions right that just if you're not 284 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: around other humans, you're not going to learn it. Okay. 285 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: So with those two um at most tangentially related ideas 286 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: out of the way, let's look at the concept of 287 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: like anthropy as a mental disorder. There's a really interesting 288 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: thing that an FBI profiler named Greg McCrary said. Uh. 289 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: He said that, Um, there's a reluctance to admit that 290 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: someone in our community would be capable of the kind 291 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: of evil that we can see in brutal murders. Evil, 292 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: he said, is so overpowering that we want to attribute 293 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: it to a monster. But the reality is that many 294 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: good people can have some terrible flaws. Although I do 295 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: think he's understating it when he says that last part 296 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: of the sentence, Um, it is true that there's this 297 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: tremendously alienating thing about, you know, finding out that quiet 298 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: neighbor down the way had a basement full of bodies 299 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: or something, you know. And with with this in mind, uh, 300 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: we have to understand that not only is it not 301 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: only is it true that people can have a mental 302 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: disorder that makes them awarewolf, but it also makes it 303 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: possible that throughout history, uh, the the current the towns 304 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: that were plagued with murders or something like that may 305 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: have been trying to address the concept of a serial 306 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: killer of some sort through their existing cultural framework. Well, 307 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: it's also strange to me, it can it It strikes 308 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: me that one it's almost the not guilty by insanity 309 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: kind of plea, And I could see that being used 310 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: back in the day, perhaps like I've turned into this 311 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: monster when I put this belt on, I turned into monster. 312 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: And you know it's it wasn't me who killed those people. 313 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: It was the thing that I become when I down 314 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: this thing or drink this or you know of this substance. Yeah, 315 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: and that's I think that's a really good point because 316 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: we know that often when we talked about some stuff 317 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: with witches in the past, we noted that people who 318 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: like elderly women who are suffering from dementia might have 319 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: been called which is unable to defend themselves, or the 320 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: mentally disabled could have been accused of that. The sickening 321 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is that we know it is 322 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: frighteningly plausible that that in the past, especially people who 323 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: were mentally infirmed for one reason or another, we're easy 324 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: pickings as scapegoats. So maybe, you know, like, let's put 325 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: ourselves back there a few centuries. Maybe, Um, this small 326 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: town in France is getting attacked by a pack of 327 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: wolves that have acquired a taste for vulnerable human flesh. 328 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: And they need to blame someone, but they can't catch 329 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: the wolves, so they blame you know, the old lady 330 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 1: down the street, uh, who has no living family and 331 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: is nuts, and they they have this scapegoat. So it's 332 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: sort of, um, a pressure hatch for the community at large. 333 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't solve the problem, but it makes people feel 334 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: like they're doing something and uh, as we can see 335 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: in the actions in a rock Post nine eleven. Often 336 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: when you have a group of people fired up about 337 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: a tragedy, giving them something to lash out at or 338 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 1: the illusion of doing something effective can be very effective 339 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: for maintaining a status quo. Yeah, I walked down the 340 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: street for that point, but I think it was worth it, alright, Sorry, 341 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: I like it so. UM. So we also know, and 342 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: this is this is the last of why I've got here, Matt. 343 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: We also know that this mental disorder, this delusion that 344 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: one is actually a wolf for werewolf, um, is not 345 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: limited to bizarre history racle footnotes. Have you heard of 346 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: a guy named Bill Ramsey? Sounds really familiar, But I 347 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. Well. This could be 348 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: a this could be a total hoax. I haven't checked 349 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: into this, but um, Bill Ramsey was experiencing savage seizures 350 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: since he was a kid, and he would growl and 351 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: snap and bite, and he convinced himself allegedly that he 352 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: was a wolf. Eventually, UM, these two self identified demonologist 353 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: Ed and Lorraine Warren, upon who the conjuring is based 354 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: um concluded that Ramsey was possessed by a werewolf demon. Uh. 355 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: And then he was skeptical as as you might be, 356 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, they finger quotes exercised him. He 357 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: said that he felt the werewolf demon leaving his body 358 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: and didn't suffer from it again. So I don't know 359 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: if this is a hoax. I don't know if this 360 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: is true, but I do know it's interesting. Where wolf 361 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: demon That's a new one for me. Uh. Just quickly, 362 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up a couple other reasons that 363 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: people may act or believe that they turned into a 364 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: wolf or act as though they are a wolf. Um, 365 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: a couple of things we've brought up before when we 366 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: were talking about witchcraft and uh, the sale witch trials, 367 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: and also the vampire what do we call that one? 368 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: The vampire plague vampire panic. Oh man, that's still one 369 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes. Meant oh me too, dude. The 370 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: the idea of ergot poisoning, Uh, fairly simple poisoning that 371 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: occurs when just grain and barley or wheat it goes 372 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: bad and when you eat it you can have some 373 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: serious hallucinations. Um, it can. It can be pretty brutal 374 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: on you and you got you know, if you're under 375 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: the influence of ergot poisoning, you may be led to 376 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: believe things by someone else or just internally, that you're 377 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: the things that you're seeing are real. So it could 378 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: be a bad trip, could be a really bad trip. 379 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: One interesting thing about that is the idea of you know, 380 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: this ergot poisoning has been advanced, um controversially for a 381 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: couple of other historical events like saying Almo's fire, Um, 382 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: the uh what's it called the dancing plagues, which I 383 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: think stuff mom never told you it was probably gonna 384 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: have a good episode on if it hasn't come out already. 385 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: And uh, someone's even advanced that maybe the Salem witch 386 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: trials were results or the hysterious rounding them. Um. Interesting 387 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: fact about ergot poisoning. It can also have physical um, 388 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: physical symptoms, so it can cause extremities to swell uh, 389 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: making you look totally bonkers and maybe like you're transforming jeez. Uh. 390 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: And and the other thing ben I wanted to mention 391 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: is rabies. This is something that spread much like in 392 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: the way the stories of like a thro pree year 393 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: spread through her body. Um, and it's pretty fatal. That's 394 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: the one thing that kind of makes me think that 395 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: it might not be rabies is because it's usually fatal, 396 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: especially in the advanced stages. So anyone who would be 397 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: caught as a werewolf or a lichanthrope would probably be 398 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: dead within a few days. Um. Although several of these people, 399 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: especially in the historical cases. The when you mentioned stub Stobs, 400 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: I mean he was he was executed. UM. So perhaps 401 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: someone who was suffering from rabies just gets executed. Um, 402 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: and just take that guy was being attacked by the wolf. 403 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: There's another another recent self professed werewolf we should mention, 404 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: a murderer named Jack Owen Spillman the third Um. When 405 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: he was locked up, he referred to himself as a 406 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: werewolf and said he loved to stalk his prey. Uh. 407 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: He was a um. He was a real life monster. 408 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: Because you know, you can be technically human being and 409 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: still be a monster. As a matter of fact, I 410 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: would argue that most monsters are exactly that. UM, and 411 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: we and I just bring this guy up because um, 412 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: murderers or you know murderers and some like rapists, uh, 413 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: can can go off the deep end and identify themselves 414 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: as you know serial killers or as Jesus Christ for 415 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: some reason, or as you know God or some other 416 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: delusional idea. And this happening in the modern day to 417 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: me means that it could have easily happened as well 418 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: in the past, but without the benefit of a psychologist 419 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: or neuroscientist or an expert to say, Um, you're crazy, 420 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: because it could have been somebody saying wow, maybe, oh yeah, 421 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: I guess he really does work for eton. I guess that. 422 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: I guess we should kill this guy. And UM, with that, 423 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: I think it's time to uh throw it to the audience. 424 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: Usually this is the part where we say, um, if 425 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: you want to learn more, I think we have an 426 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: article on the site right. Yes, a lot of the 427 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: information that I got from this site is from an 428 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: article by Tracy V. Wilson, the fantastic host of Stuffy 429 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: missed in history class. One of the fantastic hosts. Uh, 430 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: the other being holly free and uh yeah, just check 431 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: it out. It's a great read. It kind of goes 432 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: over some of the same stuff we talked about, not 433 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: not in quite as much detail, but it's fascinating. Yeah, 434 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: and we'd like to hear from you right to us 435 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: or comment on our Facebook page or tweet us and 436 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: let let us know, uh what you think about the 437 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: idea of like can therapy as mental illness and as 438 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: um historical stuff. Especially, let us know if you believe 439 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: that people really can shape shift. We didn't even touch 440 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: on skin walkers, will save that for a different show. Uh, 441 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: but if you let us if you do believe this stuff, 442 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: then let us know why. We'd love to hear it. Um. 443 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any video evidence or pictures? Totally send 444 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: that to us. I would love to be able to 445 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: help prove that it's real. Well, we would put it 446 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: on the air if we could find proof of it. Uh. 447 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: But another question, which I think we might get more 448 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: responses to here, um is which monsters should we cover next? 449 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: We're up for anything, lock nest, minotaur, I don't know, 450 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: from the sea, from the mountains. What do you want 451 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: to tell us about it from the air from the 452 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: nether regions and I don't mean but uh yeah, So 453 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: tell us what you think about that we are conspiracy 454 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: stuff on both Facebook and Twitter. It so happens that 455 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: we have our very own website. I think you get 456 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: it automatically after not being fired. Uh, as long as 457 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: we have so far, it's our watch it we get 458 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, knock on wood, Let's see how long it last. 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