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Speaker 1: and Tie Big twelve Preview Part duh. Yes, it's part

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Speaker 2: Yes, welcome back to the Soalburbal.

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Speaker 1: I'm ty, He's Dan. I don't know why I made

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Speaker 2: I apologize to everybody out there, many of whom have

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Speaker 1: How are you, my good friend? I'm I'm great. But

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Speaker 2: Continue well, it is part two of the Big twelve preview.

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Speaker 2: We did part one, which again was the bigger picture,

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Speaker 2: zoomed out view of the state of affairs with this conference.

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to start diving into individual team previews.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode. We've got Oklahoma State, Kansas State.

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Speaker 2: We've also got the bottom the perceived bottom anyway, and

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Speaker 1: Big twelve where do you want? TO start i. Don't

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Speaker 1: Over I had Utah Over. Oklahoma state You had Utao Over.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're far and away. Way better you

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Speaker 2: Kyle whittingham the incredible number here is that there were

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Speaker 1: Ali, Gordon Yes ali gordon finished with simplify. The, offense

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Speaker 2: Eighteen hundred rushing guards was obviously In the. Heisman discussion

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Speaker 2: a good run, blocking unit very good at. Pass protection

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Speaker 2: Number is it's like two hundred and fourteen or fifteen

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Speaker 2: The Optimism For, oklahoma state to the point of it,

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Speaker 2: being straightforward is that they're going to be able to

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Speaker 2: Got another Year of british Comedy Legend alvin bowman. Playing,

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Speaker 2: quarterback yep, year seven which is not the greatest sign in.

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Speaker 1: The world but your. Seventies Back ali gordon.

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Speaker 2: Is back he was in the, news recently got picked

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Speaker 2: up for a dui at the End. Of June mike

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Speaker 2: gundhy came out clumsily and said that he's Not Suspending.

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Speaker 1: Ali gordon, he said who? Among, us yeah he's sort

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Speaker 2: ABOUT that i would like to believe we all feel

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Speaker 2: Similarly about that, was not of course, approached us but

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Speaker 1: This point i'm not going to harp.

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Speaker 2: On it Outside of Bowman, and gordon there are eight

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Speaker 2: other starters back, on Offense Including, breton presley who we

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Speaker 2: Do rashada owens bark. Out wide ninety one percent of

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Speaker 1: Is back why are? They dangerous it's basically the same

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Speaker 2: Last year it's the same team that went on, a

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Speaker 2: run That Beat, kansas state That, beat kansas That, beat

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Speaker 2: oklahoma went all the way To The big, twelve championship

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Speaker 2: and now they've got a year of seasoning under. Their

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Speaker 1: The, WORLD yeah i think that's really it's.

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Speaker 2: It's easy it's easy compared to some of THESE other,

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Speaker 1: Yeah And, oklahoma state, which. Yeah, continue sorry they are

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Speaker 2: That's true most. Teams are if they're starting quarterback. Goes

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Speaker 2: other teams. For sure is not unique To. The pokes

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Speaker 2: but you know my stance on seven, Year guys dan seventh. Year,

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Speaker 2: All right you spend a couple of, Them Hurt Like,

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Speaker 2: alan bowman did you battle the? Injury bug there is,

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Speaker 2: that risk so hopefully the line can't. Improve again they

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Speaker 2: more insurance that he can, stay Upright Like, zane flores

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Speaker 2: what garrett, wrangles about but Like The zane flores could

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Speaker 2: if you've got a backup quarterback in there and he's

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Speaker 2: they're deeper, this year. Which helps last year It Was

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Speaker 2: brian nardo's. First year he switched things up to a

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Speaker 2: what i, have seen they've made some tweaks now to

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Speaker 2: Long way if they're successful, in that it's reasonable to

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Speaker 1: starting off with what they have, up Front Especially, colin

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Speaker 1: oliver who at his best is not Just all conference

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Speaker 1: But Perhaps. All american at, his best you can get after.

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Speaker 1: The passer you can do a ton on defense if

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Speaker 1: Has that they weren't a great, defense though but at

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Speaker 1: their best they. Have it they got to get better

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Speaker 1: look I Like. OKLAHOMA state i also think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: know what they are real quick because the first six

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Speaker 1: weeks of the Season Are South, dakota state THE reigning.

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Speaker 2: Fcs champion they're, at home But. Still jacks jacks are.

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Speaker 2: Good team they can. Push, Them, Arkansas, Tulsa Utah kansas

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Speaker 2: state And A west, virginia game which is the tailtale

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Speaker 1: Up, losing yeah the weird thing last Year About oklahoma

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Speaker 1: state You Mentioned alan bowman and, discovering, that, like oh

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Speaker 1: just build the whole thing Out Of. Olli gordon they

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Speaker 1: ollie gordon had into finding people over, the top or

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Speaker 1: developing an offense that finds people over, the top Or

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Speaker 1: Giving alan bowman the confidence to find people over. The

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Speaker 1: top and it's weird to Talk About oklahoma state still

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Speaker 1: and NOT talk i Might Like brendan presley. A lot

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Speaker 1: he probably one of the best three or four receivers in,

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Speaker 1: this conference but like he is not of the caliber

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Speaker 1: as some Of The tayland, wallace types or he just

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Speaker 1: like that is An Un james washington unguardable option deep

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Speaker 1: they're able to find and develop that this year because

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Speaker 1: that gives them, a wrinkle an option that makes them

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Speaker 1: that much more Unstoppable If olli gordon is able to

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Speaker 1: replicate his twenty TWENTY.

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Speaker 2: Three i think over eight is a. Good bet right

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Speaker 2: now They are okounder's. EIGHT wins i think it's a really.

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Speaker 2: GOOD bet i am not making it because of those

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Speaker 2: injury concerns and for as IMPROVED as i think, they

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Speaker 2: are and FOR how i think they did get better

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Speaker 2: from a depth standpoint, As well i'm concerned that like

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Speaker 2: a seven and five season could happen If Either alan

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Speaker 2: Bowman Or ali gordon go down AND it's i feel

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Speaker 2: like they're a really, good team but a lot is

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Speaker 2: built around the health of, those two which is why

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Speaker 2: personally wouldn't make, the bet EVEN though i think over

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Speaker 2: eight's good And obviously i've got to go Into The

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Speaker 2: big twelve title.

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Speaker 1: Game again these are the Defenses That oklahoma state will

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Speaker 1: face on the road as they try to add more

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Speaker 1: pop to. Their Offense kansas state should. Be good THEN It's,

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Speaker 1: BYU Baylor tcu colorado like it aligns pretty Nicely, WITH

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Speaker 1: yeah I Think oklahoma state's offensive aspirations if those defenses

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Speaker 1: are reasonably within where we think they might be you Mentioned.

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Speaker 2: K State case state's over under is nine and, a

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Speaker 2: Half so vegas really.

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Speaker 1: Likes them they won nine games, last year nine.

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Speaker 2: And four they won The Pop, tarts bowl which was,

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Speaker 2: you know we're all excited about The.

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Speaker 1: Pop tarts roll.

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Speaker 2: Talked about the schedule on the last episode to think.

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Speaker 2: IT'S favorable i Like k state. A lot it's it's hard.

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Speaker 1: NOT to.

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Speaker 2: I have again more questions About k STATE than I.

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Speaker 2: Do utah you Have kse state Up against utah in

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Speaker 2: Your projected big twelve. Title game what do you like About?

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Speaker 2: K state where are? They dangerous where are they?

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Speaker 1: In Danger, avery Johnson Avery don johnson is The danger

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Speaker 1: this was a team that could not find a TON

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00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 1: of i keep using the. Word offensive pops all come

435
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: up with some sort of new turn of phrase as because, azz,

436
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: zest excitement. Explosion whatever. They Didn't Losing douce fond changed that.

437
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: A little But For, kansas state losing the receivers that

438
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: They Lost malik knowles from a couple of years ago.

439
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 1: Change That So avery johnson needs to be so good

440
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: that he's both generating bigger plays with his feet and

441
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: with his arm and finding, dudes downfield and whether it's

442
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 1: buying time to find. Dudes whatever that's where it's going to.

443
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: Come from that's, the explosion that's. The Danger It's. Avery

444
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: johnson the offensive line should still. Be good it's new,

445
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: coordinators right and the offensive line coach is elevated Along

446
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: With matt wells To Replace. COLIN klein i think they're

447
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: going to be. VERY good i think they should be

448
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: able to run the Ball Ats, dj giddons they should

449
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: be able to run the. Ball well that should be

450
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: able to open things up For. K state you mentioned

451
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: the schedule is pretty great For k state. This season

452
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: the defense has returning players all on all three levels

453
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: now again star power. Up front they lose a couple of,

454
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: key dudes especially guys who got after the passers. Super

455
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: well But kse state is one of those programs that

456
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 1: seems to just very slowly build, quality depth and you

457
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: pair that with it should be a, good offense maybe

458
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: not a, great offense but a good offense with an

459
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: exciting quarterback, a solid if not. GREAT defense i think

460
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: they're gonna. BE good i think they're gonna BE like,

461
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean i think when you look at the defenses

462
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: In The big twelve, Last season texas may have had,

463
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: the best but of the, returning defenses they might have

464
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: been the only top forty or top fifty scoring defense

465
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: in points per drive. COMING back i think a lot

466
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: of good things About k state at. THIS point i

467
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: think they're another one of those Teams. Like utah it's

468
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: not necessarily like where's the? Star power where? Is this

469
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: where are there like actual legit questions With k State

470
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: And avery johnson, is one he's new full time. Starting

471
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: quarterback we'll see if he can handle that kind, of

472
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: workload but of what we saw from what we saw

473
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: of him, last season there's a lot to be. Encouraged

474
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: by there is a. Lot, There yeah so do WE

475
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: Think k state still has a very very. Few questions

476
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: so my two biggest questions About k state are obviously

477
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: whether Full Time avery johnson is as good as Part Time. Avery.

478
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: JOHNS right i think it's.

479
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: TOTALLY fair i think you've Spoken to it is a

480
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: relatively new offense in terms of, returning starters which you

481
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 2: can kind of mitigate a little bit when you've got

482
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: good coaching and good players you, Know Around so i'm

483
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: less as concerned. WITH that i do think it's a

484
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: step back along the, offensive line it's reasonable to expect to,

485
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: step back, but again you have, a scrambler more of

486
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: a Scrambler In, avery johnson more of a dynamic playmaker with.

487
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 2: His legs all due Respect To, WILL howard i think

488
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: you can again kind of balance. That out, so defensively

489
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: star power, is lacking but. They're deep there's a lot to,

490
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 2: like here and especially when layered in with. The schedule

491
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: over nine and a half feels good.

492
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: TO me i feels good to. Me too and whatever

493
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: concerns you have about, offensive line their co offensive coordinator

494
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: is the elevated offensive, line coach so somebody that should

495
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: be intimately aware of what this line can and can't

496
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: do and game plan. Around that so that gives me

497
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: some hope that over nine and a half is not a.

498
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: Bad BET so i. LIKE it i. Really do the non.

499
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: CONFERENCE schedule i Mean It's tennessee Martin At. Tulane arizona,

500
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: by like IT'S just i. DON'T know i think. It's, Good,

501
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: yeah okay it's a. Nice schedule let's. Keep going YOU.

502
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: Mentioned byu let's Talk.

503
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: About, yu yeah we are jumping around a little. Bit

504
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 2: here we BOTH had byu in. The, bottom yes of our,

505
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: conference projections and they're over unders four and. A half

506
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: they won five games, Last year vegas expecting somewhere around

507
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: the same the. Same number i'm gonna mention. THIS again

508
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: i said it a few. WEEKS ago i said in

509
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: the last episode that we did literally every BLIND item

510
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: i have Read About kilani sataki is quick to point

511
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 2: out how great of a coach they think he is

512
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: and how much they're confident he will.

513
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Quote unquote figure. It, out, okay everybody they all.

514
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: Say it i've Never met, kalani tacky but everyone, who

515
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 2: smart people who in many cases don't want to give.

516
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Their, names yeah seem to be very confident in this

517
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: guy's abilities as.

518
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: A coach i hope, that's true because he's got his

519
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: work cutout for him.

520
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: This year dan.

521
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: He does last season started out three, TO zero byu

522
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: went two and seven the rest of.

523
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: The way they lost their.

524
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: Last five their only two conference wins Were against Cincinnati And.

525
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: Texas tech, Generally speaking i'd SAY this byu, got bullied

526
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: bullied along the lines, last season virtually no push on

527
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: offense in the. Running game, on defense they changed up

528
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: the scheme a. Little bit they blitzed more but the

529
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: pass rush was one of the five worst in.

530
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: College football might be. The, worst yeah it, was.

531
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: BAD Right j hahill changed, things up but it was

532
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: just they never got the pass rush going. AT all

533
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: i think to be within one win of a bowl

534
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: game in spite of the bad, line play maybe that

535
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: Speaks To kalanie.

536
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Sataki's.

537
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: Chops, sure now for what, it's worth this year they're BRINGING.

538
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: In tj woods to coach up the line to improve the.

539
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: Running game hopefully his background is Like old wisconsin. POWER

540
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 2: football i don't hate Using the wisconsin. Template here you

541
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: can't do it without, a, line though and that's. The

542
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: problem that's THAT'S why I think byu is still kind

543
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: of a work in. Progress here you combine the line

544
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: issues with, the schedule which is, freaking brutal and that's

545
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: why byus. In danger they've got all the tough teams in,

546
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: the conference plus a road GAME at smu my BELOVE

547
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: at SMU. M h and that's why you're over under

548
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: is like four and.

549
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: A half.

550
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: It's going to take a while to kind of get

551
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: past that in, my VIEW and i don't think the

552
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: program is there from a. Talent standpoint you talked, about

553
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: it like focus. On you that's the tier that these guys.

554
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: Are in that's very much the tier they should. Be

555
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: in they need to focus on getting talent and kind

556
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: of getting these these. Pieces organized that said they might

557
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: be dangerous are more dangerous if they can get better

558
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: quarterback play. This Year jake rehetzliff, last year who came

559
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: in played, a bit was. Very inconsistent they Also got

560
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: Gary bau hannen.

561
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: This year he.

562
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: TRANSFERRED in i was Encouraged By jake rhetzlaff a year

563
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: ago because he gave them some pop with his LEGS

564
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: and i remember we did A preview i talked. About

565
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: that that WAS why i liked his at, least potential

566
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: but it. Just it the passing game. Wasn't there he,

567
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: could run but we didn't see it through. The, air

568
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: no my hunch Is at Gary bou hannen wins. That

569
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: job if, he does he'd be an upgrade because the

570
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: receiver room is. Pretty, deep also he's got, some, experience

571
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: right he's played high level Football at baylor in. His,

572
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: PAST also i also really liked their RUNNING. Back, lj

573
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: martin who kind of emerged. Last season it's just a

574
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: line play thing you know. You could you could stock

575
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: the skill talent until you're blue in, the face but

576
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: if you don't have the blocking, up front it's going

577
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: to be.

578
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: A problem so hopefully.

579
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: They can get beyond the getting bullied part, of things

580
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: either on offense, or defense and the pass rush. Can

581
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: improve there are just too many holes on this team

582
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: right now for me to feel BETTER. About BYU but,

583
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: i will, you know kind of revert back to what

584
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: the other people are saying with the, blind items like

585
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: WHAT do i know everybody else is saying he's a.

586
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: Good coach everybody else is saying he'll figure, it out

587
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: and in time.

588
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: He Will so i'm not going to sell too HARD

589
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: on byu. Long term but this, YEAR again i think

590
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: it's it's still kind of an. Ongoing, rebuild yeah if

591
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: you want to be ENCOURAGED. By byu they did show

592
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: more fight at the end of the season Against the

593
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: oklahoma Schools with retz, Left, right yeah that's when he.

594
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: Was playing near the end of. The year they took

595
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: some big Hits. In october they were losing by thirty

596
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: forty points to. Quality teams they DID beat I Think,

597
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: texas tech, but yeah that's both discouraging that they were

598
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: that out of so many games in the meat of,

599
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: their schedule and then encouraging at least that there was

600
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: fight at the end of the season that they could.

601
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: Come together, but like, you know you're padding a team

602
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: on the head for. And close it's not the most

603
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: confidence INDUCING phrasing i. Have Here so i'm OUT on

604
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: byu for the, time BEING but i accept a reality

605
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: IN which byu can. Steadily improve if you're right, about

606
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: this the line play. GETS better, i mean there's so much,

607
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: there THAT like i think they were one of the

608
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: worst teams in terms of going three and out. Last,

609
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: year like it's just an impossible way, to, Win right

610
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: it's just an impossible way to win if you can't

611
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: figure out a way to march down the field and

612
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: just pick up a first down here, And there like

613
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: you need to build, on SOMETHING and i think this

614
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: is a build on something YEAR.

615
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: For, byu yeah is just like too much, Going, on

616
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: yeah too much, going on too much to fix. It

617
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: Once kalani sintoki Could Be, Nick saban he's still not

618
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: going to figure it out this YEAR because i think

619
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: there are bigger issues that need to first. Be resolved

620
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: while we're talking about rebuild's Talk. ABOUT houston i can

621
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: knock that one out. Pretty, Quickly sure houston's over under

622
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: is three and. A half they went four and eight a,

623
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: year ago they Fired, hole go and now they're Bringing In.

624
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: Willie fritz the over under three and. A half it

625
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: is the lowest In the big twelve. Per DraftKings if

626
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: you Are a, houston, fan though.

627
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: Tell me about. Your squint is that what we're gonna do?

628
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: Right now.

629
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: You're not even gonna pat anyone on the head or

630
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: humor anyone or lead.

631
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: You astray this is gonna be a bad team.

632
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: This year but if you Are a houston, Frant Fan

633
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: willie fritz has a long history of making teams dangerous.

634
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: In time he's familiar with this, area.

635
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Generally having Been.

636
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: At dulane you give a guy like that power. CONFERENCE

637
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: resources i think there's a lot to be. Excited, ABOUT

638
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: okay i am extremely optimistic about what he can do

639
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: over the next couple of years with. This program it

640
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: does feel like there's a. Real plan it's just not

641
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 2: gonna happen. This year it's gonna be a significant rebuild

642
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: at a minimum along the lines where they really.

643
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Need it.

644
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: Two THINGS that i point out HERE a i like

645
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: the fact that they're getting away From The dana holgerson

646
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: pass happy system that. HE'S run i Like That willie

647
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: fritz is going to bring things more. Into balance he's

648
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: going to add a little bit more oop in the.

649
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: Running Game Both, donovan smith who's. The quarterback who did

650
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: you tell me that some people were projecting him as

651
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: a FIRST ROUND nfl i.

652
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: THINK so i don't, Get it, but yeah that's sort

653
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: of a. Straw MAN but i don't know if anybody.

654
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: Serious is, but Yeah.

655
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Both donovan Smith And parker jenkins the, running back are

656
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: going to benefit from more balance on, this offense not

657
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: being too much on. ONE side i think that's a.

658
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: Good thing more to the point that there's, A plan

659
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: i like. That plan the Other thing i'd Add is

660
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: i'm not super optimistic about this.

661
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: Year's defense is another deal where it's a new coach

662
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: and they're. Switching schemes on, That Side.

663
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: Willie fritz was. Very aggressive he pulled in seventeen defenders

664
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: via the portal to help jump start. The operation it may,

665
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: not work it could be better, than, Expected, RIGHT okay

666
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: i am not framing this preview out in terms of

667
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: danger or. IN danger i Think mostly houston's going to

668
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: be in danger, every week especially because the schedule doesn't

669
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: do him. Any favors but, bigger picture why are? They

670
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: dangerous they're Dangerous Because willie fritz is a. Program, BUILDER okay,

671
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: i agree don't count on much, this year don't touch that.

672
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: Over under it's not worth, your time it's not worth.

673
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: Your money but let's talk in two years About where

674
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: houston's at with the Resources That willie fritz. Has GIVEN

675
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: and i think we could really be talking about, something

676
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: here especially in a conference that for the, foreseeable future

677
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: it feels very wide open, to.

678
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: Me it feels, wide Open and houston is well positioned

679
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: geographically to be like, YOU know us half or somebody.

680
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: Like that THAT'S a g five program That and houston's not,

681
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: anymore obviously but that's a program that can sort of

682
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: build depth in a way that others can't because so

683
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: many players are from that Part, of Tech From east

684
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: texas that have that option to come home in. The

685
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: Portal if houston is especially aggressive once again moving forward in,

686
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: the portal that they can find star power, at quarterback

687
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: that they can, find receivers that they can find difference

688
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: makers on defense that they, are positioned, you know so

689
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: CLOSE to a AND m lsu all of these places

690
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: IN the sec that are going to build up too,

691
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: much depth especially what are we going down to like

692
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: one hundred and. Five, scholarships yeah that's so there are

693
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: going To be it's going to be an even more. Active,

694
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: PORTAL houston i think is. WELL positioned I Like, WILLIE

695
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: fritz i like. HIS ceiling i don't know about these

696
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: coordinator hires, per se but they're the first. COORDINATOR hires i.

697
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: DON'T know i think he's going to Succeed. At houston you.

698
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: ARE right i don't know if, to say like twenty,

699
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: Twenty five houston could, be interesting like you just if

700
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: you play things right in terms, of Recruiting which houston

701
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: has done and, THE portal i. DON'T know i think

702
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: you can improve to to like the second tier Of

703
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: the big twelve. PRETTY quickly i don't think it's that hard.

704
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: To do it's just not gonna happen. This year like

705
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: if it happens.

706
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: This Year willie fritz is. A, genius yeah he's, A

707
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: GENIUS but i think there's just a lot of work to,

708
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: be done and it's going to be a. Prolonged project and,

709
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: last year by, The way houston not even that. Far, Off,

710
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: like No the texas game was WEIRD that i think

711
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: they got hosed on a call late and then they basically.

712
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: Lose twice because of, that loss they get Killed By

713
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: kansas state the. Next WEEK like i think the wheels

714
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: just sort of fell off After that. Texas game but

715
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 2: the Best of houston last year Is a bowl team.

716
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: FOR sure I Like WILLIE free, I do, I do i.

717
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: REALLY do i just think it's it's gonna take a little.

718
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Bit longer why.

719
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: Don't we round out our focus on, you, tier okay

720
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: and give me the LOWDOWN on Asu And.

721
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: Kenny, Dillingcamp okay so this is this is an. INTERESTING

722
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: one i think their borderline wildcard JUST because i think,

723
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: he's inventive super active in. The portal lost a couple

724
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: key guys, on defense, for sure one within the CONFERENCE In,

725
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: bj green their most disruptive defensive lineman Leaving. For colorado

726
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: but they've been super active in. THE portal i never

727
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: liked The bo baldwin higher and they made, that CHANGE

728
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: which i think. IS important i Don't Love, marcus ARROYO

729
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: but i was GONNA say I Like, KENNY dillingham i.

730
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: REALLY do I Like, cam skataboo who was who came

731
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: UP from I Think sack state and got a bunch of.

732
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: Playing time second half of. Last year we saw you,

733
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: know him have an impact IN the. Usc game like

734
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: there are guys now Losing What, ELIJAH badger i don't,

735
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: Love that like they lost, too MUCH and i don't

736
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: know how competitive they are IN the nil space in.

737
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: This moment but just like what they DID against ucla

738
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: when they didn't even have enough healthy offensive linemen to

739
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: field a unit and they were, just, like well we're

740
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: gonna go swinging gate, Right that we're just gonna be unorthodox.

741
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: With it they're gonna lose to everybody clearly better. Than

742
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: them but if a team is only kind of better

743
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: than them, OR inconsistent I think asu can. Jump up

744
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: You Lose, jayden rashata he seemed like he was me

745
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback of, the future but maybe he was beaten

746
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: Out By sam levitt and he's now a Backup. At georgia,

747
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: LIKE it asu is not going to lose for lack,

748
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: of trying AND so i think it's going to be

749
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: another adjustment SEASON, for ASU but i think the win

750
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: total could be not necessarily indicative of where. They are

751
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: but by the end of, THE year i think we're

752
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: going to look at their schedule and their results and,

753
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: be LIKE lost ucf, by, three right they Lost To

754
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: iowa state, by four and they were like leading in. That,

755
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: GAME like i think you're going to see a lot

756
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: of proof of CONCEPT with asu, this year so, you

757
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: know behind, the scenes we'll see, you Know Remember kenny

758
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: dillingham talking about like there wouldn't be a program if

759
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: it weren't for. This booster those kinds, OF conversations i

760
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: THINK a su. IS building, I like I'm Buying kenny.

761
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: DILLINGHAM stock I just i. DON'T know i don't think

762
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: they're making a bowl game, this YEAR but i think

763
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: they're going to be involved in like three to four really.

764
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: Fun games, schedules, brutal man it's. Really TOUGH so asu

765
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: in front of them. Right now they opened, the season

766
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: new Coach, at wyoming new Coach At. Mississippi state but

767
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: both those games Are, in tempe a tough Out In,

768
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: texas state and that's on the Road At. Texas tech

769
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: and obviously we'll know more About The red raiders come,

770
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 1: week whatever four. Or five that's a tough way to open.

771
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: The season They've got Kansas and utah back, To Back,

772
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: OKLAHOMA state Ucf At. Kansas state It's At, OKLAHOMA state

773
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: Ucf At kansas state back, to back and they Play

774
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: The territorial Cup. In tucson it's, real tough. IT is

775
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: i just think they're going to be involved in like

776
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: they're going to be involved in plural toss. Up games how.

777
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: About that they were three and nine last year and they. Played,

778
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: hard yeah they played hard AND on i mean they

779
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: also Lost to arizona by one hundred and seventy. Three parts,

780
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: but okay let me rephrase they played harder than you

781
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: would expect for a three and. Nine, team well and

782
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 2: the quarterback injuries they were dealing with, As, well yeah

783
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: they were dealing with. A lot It Was kenny dillingham's.

784
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: First YEAR but i always use as, an indicator and

785
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: they aren't really stats that kind of. REINFORCE this i

786
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: don't even know what numbers you would, look at but

787
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: they just the, eye test it seems like. They care

788
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: and if you're losing, nine games more often, than not

789
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: you've got a team that just. STOPS caring i didn't

790
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: see that.

791
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: LAST year i.

792
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: WAS encouraged i remember talking week in and week Out

793
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: About arizona state last season and not giving them a

794
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: handwave just because they were a, bad team but having

795
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: to actually sit, and, consider like is this a game

796
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: where they could play it a little? Bit closer and

797
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: they had a few of those, Last YEAR so i

798
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: think that speaks Volumes About. Kenny dillingham they're IN the,

799
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: USC game i believe in the. Second half they lose

800
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: that game by a couple, of touchdowns but they're fully in.

801
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: That game they lose to cow, By three colorado by Three.

802
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: In colorado that game Was. Definitely wina both of those games.

803
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: Were Winnable the washington game. Was winnable it Won't remember

804
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: WASHINGTON is i think tied or losing. That game they

805
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: needed to pick six fifteen. To seven washington ends Up in.

806
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: National championship had a lot, of tough tough TIME. With

807
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: asu beat What Cam ward, miami Quarterback and wazoo scored

808
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: nearly forty in, the PROCESS beat ucla and are. Drilled otherwise,

809
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: BUT like i, DON'T know i think there's but there's a,

810
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: firepower there there's, Fight there there is all right, NOW.

811
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah ucf mm hm. Oh baby so here's a. FUN

812
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: one ucf led in all five of the conference games

813
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: that they lost, last season and they yacked.

814
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: It away they.

815
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: Ended up six. And seven they Lost The gasparilla Bowl To.

816
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: Georgia tech as we mentioned ON our, ACC preview ucf

817
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: is truly the ultimate dilemma. FOR me.

818
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: I think they could be.

819
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: REALLY good i have said that many times. OVER now

820
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: i think it's a good. Enough schedule it's not the,

821
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 2: easiest schedule but it's. It's workable they've got a. Lot

822
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: back gus did a great job beefing up the roster in.

823
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: THE portal i really want to BE. Pro ucf my

824
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: issue Is The ted.

825
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: ROOF thing i can't, Do, It, Dan okay i'm not

826
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: gonna let myself get hurt again. Like this i'm. Just

827
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: not I'm Sure ted roof is a. Fine dude he loves.

828
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: His family he's nice to people at the at the.

829
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: LOCAL wahwah i don't think that wahas. Down there they.

830
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: Don't publics he's nice to people, at publics the.

831
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Casher, cashiers yeah he sucks as a.

832
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Defensive, coordinator, okay truly. Deeply, Sucks okay so you can

833
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: Say bread venables had a hand in Last year's, oklahoma

834
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 1: defense which. Is fine that was one of the most

835
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: improved defenses in, the, country, Right yes oklahoma in twenty,

836
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: twenty three they FINISHED top i think it's right around

837
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: thirteen points per. Drive aloud and if you look at

838
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: like the most improved teams from twenty twenty two to twenty,

839
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: twenty three they're up. There defensively so like he might

840
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: not be fully in charge of this defense, right that

841
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: like he's a, co coordinator the talent seems to be improving.

842
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: On defense i'm just SAYING you scf can win a

843
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: bunch of games without a top. Thirty defense. They can't

844
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: they can.

845
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: Outscore, People yeah but The ted, roof Thing it's, I'm

846
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: sorry i'm just hung up. On it to, This day

847
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: like over a decade after He Left, penn state my

848
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: FRIENDS and i on our text thread still use the

849
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: term leaky roof to describe any and all defensive lapses

850
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: that we see when We're Watching. PENN state i don't

851
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: know how he keeps. Can't work like the best EXPLANATION

852
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: that i had for you when we talked about it

853
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: on slack the other day. Is extortion he must have

854
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: pictures or comper matter.

855
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: OR something i think it's just the. Nicest, DUDE probably i.

856
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: DON'T know.

857
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: I just here's the case For. Ted, roof okay here's,

858
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: the case if you're gonna try and make. The case

859
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: the case For ted roof is that he does have

860
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: to his name coaching up. Rushing DEFENSES and ucf was

861
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: terrible against the run. Last season otherwise they, were okay

862
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: they weren't bad against, the pass but they were really

863
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: bad against. The run.

864
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: Against the run was the fatal fall of. The Defense

865
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: so i'll, say this IF the ucf defense is HOW

866
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: do i want to?

867
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: Phrase THIS the ucf defense is both the reason for

868
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: them being dangerous and the reason against them.

869
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Being, dangerous yeah.

870
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 2: All right on, one hand he got eight starters back

871
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: from a decent unit a, year ago and the other

872
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: you Got, ted.

873
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: Roof which i'm just not. Sold. On right other, than

874
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: that the offense is Loaded like Gus.

875
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: Went hogwilde HE Got kJ jefferson no pun Intended.

876
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: From arkansas you put him in a system, like this. VERY.

877
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: Exciting rj harvey rushed for almost fifteen hundred yards. Last

878
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 2: season He's Back. KOBE hudson i know You Love. Kobe hudson.

879
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: Solid receiver he, did more gust did more work in

880
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: the portal to beef, everything.

881
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: Up and he bings to me like a.

882
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 2: Petty boone it seems to be like a near CERTAINTY

883
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 2: that ucf is going to average at least thirty one points.

884
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: A game they're gonna score.

885
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: Like crazy this is a very very very potent offense

886
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: that is extremely dangerous with the Defense that i'll be

887
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: kind To ted rouf and say that it's it's got

888
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: a lot of.

889
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: Upward, mobility okay.

890
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: They could Potentially Get billy napier fired if they Go

891
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: to gainesville and win In, early OCTOBER which i think

892
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: is totally on the table.

893
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Right NOW so i like.

894
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: THIS team i want to like, him MORE and I

895
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: Want ted roof to prove.

896
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: Me wrong. ALL right i don't want to be mean to.

897
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: THE guy i never. Met him he probably is a really.

898
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: Nice dude maybe he's got pictures. ON you i. Don't

899
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: know schedule's broken, up nice by the way. It is

900
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about. THIS team i want

901
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: to like.

902
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: Them more the over under is seven and a half by,

903
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: the way and it's a very very interesting paradox between

904
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: seven and a half, over under but like tied for

905
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Third per DraftKings with a plus nine to fifty number

906
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: on them Winning.

907
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: The, big TWELVE.

908
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: Which i think speaks to we can see, the downside

909
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: we can see. The upside the answer is usually.

910
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: Somewhere in the MIDDLE for Ucf And I'm i'm, I'm hopeful.

911
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm opted would you say eight and? A half seven and? A,

912
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: HALF okay i think they win nine games? This year

913
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: do you want it in? The volcano y fortis? WHY

914
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: birth i think that's a.

915
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: DECENT play i don't mind that That's where i'm AT

916
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: in UCF am i being too harsh On.

917
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: Ted rufe probably it's just it's personal, for. ME man

918
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: I know i did look if it Were Like don

919
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: Pelham Or brady. Hoak coaching oh you got the volcano

920
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: smoke on. Your face you're watching.

921
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: On YouTube the ucf smoke is in. My, face, continue

922
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: yeah the.

923
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: Leaky roof, THEN yeah i, Don't know Like if florida really,

924
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: Starts struggling like if They beat florida nine to three is.

925
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: Pretty reasonable i'm jotting this down that YOU'RE. Over, ucf yeah,

926
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: all right do you wear the leaky? Roof, MAN okay

927
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: i hope.

928
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: YOU'RE right i DO BECAUSE i i want this team.

929
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: TO excel i think it'd be fun as hell and

930
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: the offense is gonna. Be awesome it's going to be

931
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: maybe THE best tv show in All the. Big twelve

932
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: but the leaky, roof man just bring.

933
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: An, umbrella well, It's okay so to, be fair it's

934
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: also you're COUNTING On kJ jefferson from, years, Ago, Right

935
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: yeah SO What kJ jefferson, is today whether it's because,

936
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: of injury whether it's because of the Turmoil at, arkansas

937
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: whatever or, you know losing big receivers and never appearing.

938
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: The same should have a star Receiver In. Kobe hudson,

939
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: BUT like i just the thing that gives me pause

940
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: ABOUT saying ucf can go nine to three and taking

941
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: the over there is like just PENCILING In kJ jefferson

942
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: to be one of the best like two quarterbacks in

943
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: this conference is not necessarily like the. Wisest thing like.

944
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: Things, change okay let's close out this part two episode

945
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: Talking About texas tech also over under a seven and

946
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: a half seven and six a, year ago They beat

947
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: call In The Independence ball tech had the best recruiting

948
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: class in the conference and they, were yeah twenty. THIRD

949
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: nationally i looked at the List that athlon. Put together

950
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: four of the top ten recruits in the entire conference

951
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: ended Up. At tech so more to, The point joey

952
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: maguire is doing a. Good job the recruiting. IS good

953
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: i think the other bit of good News That baron morton.

954
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 2: Is back if You Like, baron morton hopefully they will

955
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: be healthy, at quarterback have better health at quarterback.

956
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: THIS.

957
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: Year todj brooks is back, as well rush for over.

958
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: Fifteen hundred that's. The good the bad is that what the,

959
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: receiver room the entire. Onfensive, line yeah like all this

960
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: stuff has been reconstructed via, the portal and a lot,

961
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: of it like the secondary is going through a, full

962
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: reboot so there's a lot that is Back. TO like

963
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: i don't think it's enough though to feel good about.

964
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: This TEAM so i would probably get under seven and

965
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: a HALF if i. Were bet i'm not going to

966
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: throw that in. The volcano i'm trying to be positive

967
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: in the volcano AS best. I, CAN.

968
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean they're just gonna need to win, toss

969
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: ups if they're going to hit. THAT seven I just

970
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: i see them in that six to. Eight range obviously

971
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: that's not saying anything given, their number but like schedules,

972
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: really TOUGH and i know they've recruited well and they're

973
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: going to be. STARTING probably i Think It's, micah hudson

974
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: who is a five star freshman. The receiver, Yeah yeah

975
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: i'm just Not A baron. Morton guy and in the

976
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: offense's Defense And baron, morton's defense like they just have

977
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: been constantly deal with quarterback injury Stuff With donovan Smith

978
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: And tyler Shock And donovan smith leaving and Now It's baron. Morton's,

979
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: TEAM like i just they were What's the spanish soccer

980
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: strategy called. Ticket attacker there's a lot, of that so

981
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: Like The zach, hittley Offense the ticck attacka just quickly

982
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: that's like quick little kicks right on the soccer pitch.

983
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Pitch pitch see that's a familiar term to soccer and

984
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: foot bowl fans around. The, Globe, TYE yes i think

985
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: they were really smart to build the whole planet At

986
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: TOAs brooks last year and, tough runner and they were

987
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: much better once they started building their offense, around HIM

988
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: but i still think they need to do. Something DOWNFIELD

989
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: and i don't Know If baron morton's. That GUY like

990
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: i said on our part, ONE episode i think he'd

991
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: make for a, really nice big, Team backup, but like

992
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: how high can you fly with this passing attack? Right

993
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: now that would be, my question throwing a, new line throwing,

994
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: new receivers like and then you look at by, THE

995
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: way i don't know how closely you looked at. Their

996
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: Schedule So texas tech Is at, WAZOO early i think

997
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: week Two, At arizona BAYLOR, at Tcu At, Iowa state

998
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: colorado a Bye At Oklahoma State. West virginia it's just

999
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: given what they're doing in terms of starting over, ON

1000
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: offense i think they're going to have. GOOD games i

1001
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: just think they're going to inexplicably lose something like thirty eight.

1002
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: Thirteen twice and he's, JUST like i don't know how

1003
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: close you can get to eight wins if that's your

1004
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: team and that's, Your schedule so, DON'T again i don't

1005
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: know if i'm you said seven and, a half seven and, a,

1006
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: HALF yeah I think i lean under out that, UNDER

1007
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: yeah i would. GO under I just i don't think

1008
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: they're built to be consistent. Right now and their defense

1009
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: is fine and they do reach in like their safety

1010
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: is really GOOD. With, cj baskerville he's, a star and

1011
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: there are returning guys on all. Three LEVELS but i.

1012
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: Don't know it's a star power thing, to me and

1013
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: they were led by, their defense as weird as that

1014
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: sounds to Say With texas, TECH recently i hope the

1015
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: stability health wise at quarterback is something that they're blessed

1016
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: with this year because they've dealt with too, Much THERE

1017
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: but i. DON'T know i still think their stealing is

1018
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: relatively low because. Of it do You think joey McGuire

1019
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: is the? RIGHT guy. I do. I do he's dealt with.

1020
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: A lot i just You're, In texas you're a major.

1021
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: CONFERENCE team i think it's not crazy to think that

1022
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: you should have like a borderline star at quarterback. Pretty

1023
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: OFTEN and i know that's what they thought they were

1024
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: Getting In tyler shuck and they just had bad injury luck.

1025
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: With HIM but.

1026
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: I.

1027
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: Don't know they open the season Losing to wyoming and scoring.

1028
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: THREE points i think in that, Second, Half YEAH like

1029
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: i think you got to. AIM higher i don't know

1030
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: if It's A zach. KITLEY thing i don't know if

1031
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: it's a. SYSTEM thing i don't know if it's a.

1032
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: Development THING but i. Don't Know texas tech seems like

1033
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: one of those schools that should always have like a.

1034
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: Top five we're back in this conference and they.

1035
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: Just Haven't, all right that? Does it part two in.

1036
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: The books on our, next episode We're, Doing kansas Arizona

1037
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 2: And IOWA state Tcu, And Cincinnati, West virginia Baylor.

1038
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: In colorado.

1039
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: So a lot OF intrigue i Think on, part three

1040
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: if only because we covered most of the highs and

1041
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: all of the lows on, This episode part three is

1042
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: going to be for that, meaty middle which we know

1043
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: there is a very big media middle this year In the.

1044
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: Big twelve it arguably is these teams that will make

1045
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: the conference, most interesting not the least of Which, is

1046
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: COLORADO which. I do you've got a lot to talk, About,

1047
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: There sure i've got a lot to talk About With.

1048
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: Iowa state i'm Excited About iowa state this year and much.

1049
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: Much more, you know, we're excited we're excited to be.

1050
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Doing this if you picked up anything that we, got

1051
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: wrong or if you would like to add. Further commentary

1052
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 2: we're always at saliverbo at gmail dot com or anywhere

1053
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: on social media you can. Find us hit, US up

1054
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,480
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1055
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,040
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1056
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1057
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1058
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1059
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1060
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,800
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1061
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,640
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1062
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,320
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1063
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,680
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1064
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 2: bit closer to the college.

1065
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,960
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Speaker 1: That Front but part two now in the books For the.

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Speaker 1: Solid verbal this is part two Of our big. Twelve

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Speaker 1: preview we will talk to you All. On thursday in,

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Speaker 1: the meantime says OUT peace

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