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When we talk about NBA Superstars, 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: We normally don't mention Jimmy Butler, but over the last 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: five years, Butler's averaged more than twenty two points just once. 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: We don't talk about Jimmy Butler during the regular season. 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: But scoring isn't the only education of a great player, 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: because he's a great two way player, an elite defender, 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: and when it comes to big games, he delivers. So 28 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: far in the postseason, he's averaged just under thirty points 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: per game, two and a half steals per game. Last night, 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: no different led the Heat to the win. He had 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: forty one And when we talk about stars, you're going 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: to talk about Lebron or Luca Greek freak and rightfully so, 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. Butler has done this before. It's just he's 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: had a weird career where he was I think the 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: last pick of the first round by the Bulls. He 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: also played for the Sixers, he also played for Minnesota, 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: and now he's with the Miami Heat. I don't know 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: how many future Hall of Famers played for four teams 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: over the first ten years of their career. I think 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: that's probably the numbers there for Jimmy Butler. But he 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: has that mentality that you wont it's playoff basketball. You know, 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: we talked about Rajon Rondo, playoff Rondo. There are certain players, 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Reggie Miller in the postseason. Tim Duncan was great in 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: the postseason. I mean he was very good during the 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: regular season. Tim Duncan always stepped his game up. And 46 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I have a crazy stat about that. I'll give that 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: to you coming up. But it feels like every year, 48 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: at least one time we say the following man that 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is really good in the postseason. Right, we 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: always bring it up. We don't mention his name until May, 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and then he has a game and we go, gosh, 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: he's really good or he really cares. I just don't think. 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's easy to play with because 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: he expects you to be great, he expects you to 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: play hard. When he got to Minnesota, it probably looked 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: at those kids and said, do you guys care? I mean, 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: come on, let's go. There's a fire out there. Let's go. 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: And then the Sixers famously took Tobias Harris and gave 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: up on Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler has a chip on 60 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: his shoulder, and you could understand it because oh, you 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: didn't get drafted high in the first round by the Bulls. Oh, 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: you're kind of an interesting story there. And then he 63 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: bounced around to a couple of teams and now he's 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: with the Miami Heat, but had a big game last 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: night as the Boston Celtics. You don't have Marcus Smart, 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: you don't have Al Horford. Like, if I'm Boston, I 67 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: don't feel bad about this. Now I have Miami against 68 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Golden State in the finals and said that at the 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: start of the season. But if I'm Boston, I'm like, Okay, 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: we've been in this situation before. Now you got to 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: get Marcus Smart back. Al Horford. He's in safety protocol 72 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: right now. Don't know exactly when he'll be back, probably 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Game three at best. Marcus Smart, all right, you got 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: blown out. Third quarter was the big difference here. Miami 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: has been a great third quarter team, and you made 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: it interesting at least for them. But I wouldn't feel 77 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: like all is lost or the sky is falling. You know. 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: People talked about this game was so important for Boston. No, 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: it was really important for Miami. If you would lose 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: to a Boston team without Marcus Smart. Now Horford at home. 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. But Jason Tatum played well, not 82 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: well enough in the second half, but Boston lost to 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Game one. They've been here before. I wouldn't panic. 84 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go seven games. And Miami had 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: a good night last night. As I mentioned with Reggie 86 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: Miller yesterday, I think Tyler Herrow is really the key 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: for the Miami Heat. If he plays well and he 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: gets twenty points a night, now you have enough firepower 89 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: to stay with the Boston Celtics. Tyler Hero played well 90 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: last night. He had eighteen, but Jimmy Butler goes for 91 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: forty one and Miami takes a one oh lead. Yes, Seaton. 92 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: It's funny to me that there's like the criticism of 93 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is that he expects his teammates to be great. Yeah, like, 94 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's the kind of guy that, like, he 95 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: expects his teammates to play grade, He expects his teammates 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: to play hard. You know, he wants to win. He's 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Those are all supposed to be 98 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: good things. Why for Jimmy Butler are they a negative? Well, 99 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he wanted to stay with Minnesota, when 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: he saw those young kids didn't really care or didn't 101 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: give the effort that he wanted. Philadelphia, they chose to 102 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: Bias Harris instead of Jimmy Butler. Now with Miami, you know, 103 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: he demands a lot out of those players, and rightfully 104 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: so yeah, I know. Here's Jimmy Butler after the win 105 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: last night. I speak for my teammates and the Miami 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: he organization. Whenever I say I know what I'm capable 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: of and I don't. I don't do this to score 108 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: forty points. I play the way that I played to win. 109 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: By all it means necessary, and it just so happened 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: that I score forty. But I score forty and lose. 111 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really pissed off. Okay, he's fun to watch. 112 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: He's intense, and you need to have that. There are 113 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: certain players that they just dial it up, and they 114 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: dial it up when you need them the most. So 115 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler has increased his scoring in the postseason over 116 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: the regular season average six times. That doesn't compare to 117 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan has the most all time increasing 118 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: his scoring average from the regular season to the postseason 119 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: fourteen postseason fourteen times in his career he had averaged 120 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: more during the postseason they did during the regular season. 121 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: But Jimmy Butler and impressive start to that series. And 122 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: then you have tonight it's Luca and Steph Curry. By 123 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: the way, DraftKings has both players going over thirty five points? 124 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: Could you see both both players, I should say going 125 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: over thirty five points? I can with Luca, I think 126 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: he needs to. I don't know about Steph Curry, but 127 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: DraftKings has that as the over under thirty five and 128 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: a half points. I guess the lottery last night won 129 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: by the Orlando Magic. And then you start to think, Okay, 130 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: there's not that you know transcendent player. There's no Zion, 131 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: there's no Shack, There's no I mean, you can run 132 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: down the list, Dwight Howard, you got you know a 133 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: couple of guys who played a couple of years in college. 134 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Chet Holmgren his high school teammate Jalen Suggs, is with 135 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic. So maybe you would partner those two together. 136 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: I think they won three straight championships in high school. 137 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Chet went to Gonzaga after Jalen went to Orlando. You've 138 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: got a couple other players that are interesting, Jalen Smith 139 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: at Auburn, Paolo Banchero at Duke Jaden Ivy. But I'm 140 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: guessing if I'm Orlando, I see, I don't buy into 141 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: this way. You got to take a big guy. No, 142 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: you don't, or you got big guys, don't take take 143 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: the best player. That's what today's NBA is all about. 144 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: You can really get in trouble when you go, hmm, 145 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: that guy's probably really good, but we need a big guy. 146 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Let's don't do that. There are guys who are bigs, 147 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: but they don't play big. And I like Chad Holmgren, 148 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: but I don't know what he's going to be like 149 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: right away. And as the number one overall pick, you 150 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: put that pressure on him. Although being in the Orlando 151 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: market will help in considerably, but it would really help 152 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: Orlando maybe to get a little bit of a boost. 153 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: They're one of the worst teams as far as attendance. 154 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: They're really kind of faceless. That would give you, you know, 155 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: a name and a face there somebody to come out 156 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: and see, and that's what they need. But Orlando wins. 157 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: Jamari Smith might be well him and ben Chero probably 158 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: the two guys ready to play right now. But Homegren 159 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: feels like we love potential. There are times when you 160 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: go that guy could be really good. It's the guy 161 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: right in front of you. You go, no, he is 162 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, but we like potential. Yeah, Seton, I'm 163 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: not sure anybody really won the NBA Draft. Just like, Hey, Orlando, congratulations, 164 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: you get the first pick in one of like the 165 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: weakest drafts we've seen in a while. And hey, chat Homegren, 166 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna go to number one to Orlando. That's 167 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: kind of a lose lose. Yeah, but if you're Chat Homegren, 168 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: you get to be reunited with your high school teammate. 169 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: That's not bad. I mean that feels like a win 170 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: for him. You go number one. They all want to 171 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: go number one overall, I'd say if Jet Holmegren goes 172 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: number one to Orlando, that's pretty good. Yeah, Paul, you're 173 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: going to Siberia, though your games aren't on TV more. 174 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: There's more Gonzaga games on national TV than Orlando Magic. No, 175 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: that's not a true in any way I know. And 176 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: also the topic of the NBA Draft can't be named Chet. 177 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: Guy's named Chet. Historically don't play basketball. That well, he 178 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: seems good. But I'm like, who Chet comes to the court. 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking my chops, chet Walker Hall of 180 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: Famer for the Bulls. That's well, that's one more than 181 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: you thought. Chet the Jet Chester Walker. You can't call 182 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: him Chet the Jet Homegren because he's not really found 183 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: just tall yes, time. And Kenny Smith is the Jets. 184 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: How many Jet nicknames do you? Yeah, but Kenny was 185 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: the Jet after you know, Chet the jet Walker. Yeah, 186 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: that's that's that I have a problem with too. I 187 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: think once someone gets the nickname, that's the one person 188 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: that gets it. Yeah, that's a good point by Fritzie Ladanian. 189 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: Tomlinson is a fantastic apt He is not Lt. Telt 190 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Is Lawrence Taylor. Yeah, Tom Terrific. Remember Tom Brady tried 191 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: to siphon Tom Terrific as a nickname. That's Tom Siever. 192 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: It's over Johnny. Yeah, it's like Tom didn't think anybody 193 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: would remember Tom Siever like a siphon. Yeah. I mean no, 194 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: that's the right word. Yeah, it feels like a dastard. No, 195 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: he just stole it. He was trying to steal it. 196 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: Is that there at the gas tank of the Tom 197 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: terrific nickname. Yeah, Tom Siever's gas tank and he's siphoning 198 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: off Terrific out of there. Tomlinson should have his own thing. 199 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: He was a great player. Well what would you call 200 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: the Danian Tomlinson? I don't know, but I mean, can 201 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: you call him the Great Dane? Let's say we're in 202 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: a room and I said, holy cow, LT's here? What 203 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: what name? How about l D? Yeah? Ld? LT kind 204 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: of man? Why why does LT like? Yes? But LD's 205 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: like me? All right, coach? Who is the Great Dane? There? 206 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: There has to be somebody whose nickname is the Great Dane? 207 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Ron Dame? Oh well, good pole, Marv all right, the 208 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: great day There might have been a Great Dane before. 209 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody who's actually Danish would have been the Great Dane. 210 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Famous Danish NFL players, no, no, no, just famous athletes. 211 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: It could be a great Dane who is a biathlete 212 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: there the University of Albany. They're the great Great Danes. Yeah, 213 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: well we'll work on Chet Homegren. Yes, Tom, I'm looking 214 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: here at the Great Dan is a nickname which may 215 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: refer to Morton Anderson Danish American Blue Blue. We gotta 216 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: come up, does Chet Homegren have a nickname. Chet's his 217 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: first name. It's not like Chester. I think it's just 218 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: chet Chet Thomas Holmegren third, yesh, yes it's not Chet, sir. 219 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be. It wouldn't be chet st. I think Chester. 220 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I think I say Chetster. Yeah, no, no, no, you're 221 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: not trying to squeeze it in like that would be 222 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: his formal name. No. My point is that if his 223 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: name was Chester and you shortened it, it would be 224 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: Chess right, and his name is chet right, so it 225 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: isn't people aren't people named Chester? Aren't they called chet? 226 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Charlie are called Chatz? Yes, Todd another possible Great Daan 227 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Peter bolis Law Schmeichel is a Danish 228 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: former pro footballer who played as a goalkeeper. Okay, there 229 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: you go, the great Dame Peter Schmeichel, the old sch. 230 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: We do have to find out if Chet is short 231 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: for Chester. I think it is. Marvin said it is. 232 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: That's a confirmation, Marvin, no stuff. Yeah, but you were 233 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: trying to take Chet and Chester and go Chetester. I 234 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: didn't say Chetster, no, I said, yes, I would's right 235 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: because Chet Lemon, the great White Stock Chester Earl Lemon. 236 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: This says Chet is a masculine given name, often a 237 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: nickname for Chester. Oh okay, I thought PAULI was trying 238 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: to but they do Chetster. I've got his birth certificate 239 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: here and it's just Chet Holmegrin, just Chet. This program 240 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: brought to you by Discover Discovered matches all the cash 241 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: Bank you've heard at the end of your first year, 242 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: Discover exceptionally common sense, learn more, Discover dot Com slash 243 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: match limitation supply. That's why when people go you script 244 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: this show. There is no way in the world that 245 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: we would script this show, and if we did, we 246 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have done what we just did. We certainly would 247 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: have interjected the Fritzie's Great Dane comment there in the 248 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: middle of the bit we were rolling yeah hard left. Yes, 249 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: we would have taken that out of the script. Yes 250 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: we would. Now Chester mcclockton would done a lot less 251 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: scary if he was just Chet mclockton. Can we agree 252 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: with that? 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Visit M drive dan dot com. Thanks 275 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: for listening to the dam Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 276 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 277 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 278 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR 279 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. Play of 280 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: the Day, stat of the Day, poll, question, all of 281 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: that forthcoming. If I were a star college basketball player, 282 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: I would least like to be drafted by Orlando Houston, 283 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: Sacramento or the Knicks or other. Let me start with 284 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: Tim Legler with that question, the ESPN NBA analyst and 285 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: then one of the great shooters in NBA history. Hate 286 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: to go negative to start out your legs, but would 287 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: you rather be the team that you would least likely 288 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: to be drafted by or want to be drafted by? Orlando, Houston, 289 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: Sacramento or the Knicks? I would say the Kings. I 290 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: didn't take long to get that answered. I just think, 291 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, I just think, look at the track record 292 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: of the organization and the track record of guys that 293 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: they've dropped drafted at the top of the lottery. I mean, 294 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: number one, they don't seem to really develop there, and 295 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: two they don't seem to stay there very long. So 296 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: if I were a top pick, rather than maybe have 297 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: a few wasted years at the beginning of my career. 298 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you'd be better off in a healthier organization because 299 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: they just they've had a very difficult time getting anything right. 300 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: We would look at drafts sometimes and you wouldn't take 301 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: the best player. You would take the player that you 302 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: thought was best for you and teams. Mate. You know, 303 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: the draft is littered with teams who made these mistakes 304 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: where you go, we gotta go get a big guy. Wait, 305 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: but Michael Jordan's Nope, you gotta go after a big 306 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: guy there. But I wonder about today's NBA. Ched Homegren 307 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: is a big guy, but he's not that prototypical big 308 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: guy down low. So if you're looking at Orlando, would 309 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: you buy into Ched Holmgren with the limited sample size 310 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: we saw it, Zaga, Yeah, I would. I've seen him 311 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: play enough to look at the skill set there. Dan, 312 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's a special talent. Now, obviously that 313 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: body type has got to change a little bit. But 314 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, you look at Kevin Durant coming out. I 315 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: know they're different players, and Kevin Durant's one of the 316 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: greatest scorers this league's ever seen, So that's not necessarily 317 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: a comparison, But what I'm saying is the body type 318 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant never really did develop. He clearly got stronger 319 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: to play through contact than he did when in his 320 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: first few years in the league you could ride his 321 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: hip and knock him off balance, and he was an 322 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: inefficient player early on, and he was able to get 323 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: stronger functionally to play through it. Chad Holmgren absolutely needs 324 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: to add some weight, some bulk, some strength. But when 325 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: you look at him handle the ball in the open floor, 326 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: and you look at his vision and passing ability and 327 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: his ability to step out and shoot, and probably for me, 328 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: the real differentiating factor would be the ground this guy 329 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: covers defensively. I mean, he is an elite level week 330 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: side defender at what's probably going to end up being 331 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: a small forward position. This is one of the best 332 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: rim protecting small forwards we've ever seen come into this 333 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: league with the ground he covers in his instincts for 334 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: being there at the right time. So you add all 335 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: that up, I think, ched it's gonna take. It's gonna 336 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: take some time. You got to be patient because the 337 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: guy can't weigh more than one hundred eighty pounds. I'd 338 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: be shocked. If he weighs more than that, you're gonna 339 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: have to develop that body. But the skill set man's special. 340 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: I like how he's a seven footer and we're talking 341 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: about him being a small forward. We got to get 342 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: rid of these labels legs. I talked about this yesterday. 343 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Nobody is mentioning Lebron James is the greatest point guard 344 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: of all time or second to Magic, Like we when 345 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: we talk point guards and be like, well you gotta 346 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: put Chris Paul and you got Couzy and Nash and 347 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: stocked in and why why isn't Lebron the greatest point 348 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: guard or Luca? Right now? He's a point guard? But 349 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: we don't, you know, we don't. We don't call them that. 350 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: Why you're a dead one. We don't. And I'm as 351 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: guilty as anybody I should do it because I've been 352 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: referring to Lebron James as a point guard for a decade. 353 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really what he is. Let's be honest 354 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: about it. The guy initiates every possession when he's on 355 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: the floor. Well, this isn't that with a point guard 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: the way we used to know it. You know what 357 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: that means? Lead guard, point guard, whatever you want to 358 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 1: call it, Luca Dods is the same thing. You're one 359 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: hundred percent right. We just we don't because of the 360 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: size of these players and they're just not prototypical what 361 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: we think that's supposed to look like. But there's no 362 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: question and right now in today's game, there is not 363 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: a player in the league that controls possessions to a 364 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: greater extent than Luca Dodge and not, to me, is 365 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: the essence of what a point guard is. We'll talk 366 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: about that series coming up at a moment. Talking to 367 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: Tim Leger leg Lair ESPN NBA analyst, there's certain players 368 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: who get to the postseason and become different players. I 369 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: know that you know Michael Jordan and you know some 370 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: of these players, but like Reggie Miller was a different 371 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: player in the postseason, Jimmy Butler, Tim Duncan, different player 372 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: in the post season. What is it about those players 373 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: that it just bigger the game, the bigger the moment 374 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: for them, the bigger the performance. Yeah, I completely agree 375 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: with those guys. And Jimmy Butler's fascinating because to me, 376 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's such an incredible leap that he takes 377 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: in terms of his focus and his competitiveness. Almost I've 378 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: described him often as the greatest boring player I've ever 379 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: watched in my life, right because he doesn't do any 380 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: of the stuff that wow us. He's a guy that's 381 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: going to operate mainly in the mid range area the floor. 382 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: He's gonna get to the line a lot. That's not 383 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: exactly exciting. I mean, d D's up when it's this 384 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: time of the year, but he's not doing those things 385 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: that are the eye candy that we love to watch 386 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: like some of these other great players in the league are. 387 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: He's so methodical about it. But clearly, and Eric Spolster 388 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: alluded to this last night, there's something about got certain 389 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: guys that they really only get the hair on their 390 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: neck up when something's dramatic is on the line, and 391 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: that's the case obviously in the postseason. And he was 392 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: spectacular last night, and he completely took over that game 393 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, really on both ends of the floor, 394 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: and gave them a one oh lead in a series 395 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: I picked Boston to win, but of course I didn't 396 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: know Horford and Smart we're going to be out, so 397 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. Now, those guys don't play 398 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: in game too, and they go down two oh beating 399 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: the teams that's that well coached, that's that good defensively, 400 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: four out of five is going to be a tall 401 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: order for Boston. I had to laugh that your fellow 402 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: ESPN or Jay Williams said that, you know, we have 403 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: slighted the Miami Heat, and I wanted to say to Jay, 404 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: your network slighted the Miami Heat because you guys spent 405 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: an entire year talking about the Lakers and the Brooklyn 406 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Nets Miami Heat. We're the best team record why lies 407 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: in the East. But there's no drama there, There's no 408 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: clickbait there. I mean, that's how we cover sports now 409 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: where you go. We probably talked more about the Lakers 410 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: now and they've been out of the postseason than we 411 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: have been the Miami Heat in the postseason. No, it's 412 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: a great call. And you know, and when they made 413 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: the changes in the off season, I thought the Miami 414 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: Heat had a great chance to get to the finals 415 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: because they added PJA Tucker and Kyle al Right, so 416 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: all that playoff experience of Lowry, the toughest of PJ. 417 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Tucker likes things that they needed. But here's why when 418 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: you look at the other teams that we're talking about 419 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: all the time in the East, it's because of what 420 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: I just said. They've got the eye candy players. They've 421 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: got Giannis, they've got Embid and Harder, They've got Durant 422 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: and Kyrie, They've got Jason Tatum. Nobody on Miami really 423 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: looks like that. Even though Jimmy Butler is a great player, 424 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: bam Adebayo is an All Star, one of the best 425 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: defensive centers in the league, one of the most versatile 426 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: big guys in the league. They don't do the things 427 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: that tantalize us, that make us want to talk about 428 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: them every night. So instead, and I think Eric Fols 429 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: is perfectly fine with that, Let's just show up every day, 430 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: be professional about what we do, end up with the 431 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: number one seed, and be incredibly difficult to operate against 432 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: in those moments. And that's exactly what they did last night. 433 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: It was very impressive the way they turned it up 434 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: against them coming out of the locker room. I'm curious 435 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: the gamesmanship, the game of verbal ping pong with Luca 436 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: and Draymond Green, verbal verbal bouquets. Right now, everybody you 437 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: know Draymond is one of my favorite players. Love the 438 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: way plays. Luca's unbelievable, He's unstoppable. How long does this last? 439 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 1: Tim I would say probably within the first eight seconds 440 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: of the game. There's going to be so sort of 441 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: of a verbal backing for the first time Luca, you know, goes, 442 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: goes into the lane and tries to back somebody down 443 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: and throws his arms into somebody, gets a call Draymond 444 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: will immediately start in and at no point over the 445 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: next six or seven games, however long it last, well, 446 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: Draymond stopped talking about what lucas doing advice versa. You know, 447 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: this is going to be fascinating because there is a 448 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: there is a whole other layer to Luca that has 449 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: to just dry if players insane, And it's the constant smiling, 450 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: the grinning, the look on his face of man, a'm 451 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: I having fun out here, and God is this easy? 452 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: And I mean, what drives a think about it? Dan, 453 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the other day when he was 454 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: doing it to Booker right in that game, and it 455 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: started off he was doing it, by the way, not 456 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: when they were up forty. He hit his first two 457 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: threes of the game, and he was grinning like that 458 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: he knew something right that nobody else knew in that moment, 459 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: which is I am in a great place right now mentally, 460 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: and I am by far the best player on the floor. 461 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna be just fine. But I was thinking, imagine 462 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: anything you did competitively in your life, right you go 463 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: play golf with three of your buddies, and every shot 464 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: a guy hits for four hours, he's laughing and you 465 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: know you can't beat him, or you're you're in a 466 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: boxing match and the guy's tuning you up and then 467 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: steps back between jabs. It just grins at you, like 468 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: what could get under your skin more? And that's what 469 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: Luca is doing to people right now, and it's gonna 470 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: get chippy, physical, whatever however you want to describe it. 471 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: The bottom line is I don't think anybody is capable 472 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: of getting this guy off his game. The pace he plays, 473 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: with his physical strength, the way he anticipates what's coming 474 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: his way. I just don't think he's affected by anything 475 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: that's in front of him. He is so unique and 476 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: so fascinating because of it. It would bother me more 477 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: if a guy just grinned as opposed to smack talk 478 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: like like agree right, like that that's gonna hurt when 479 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: you laugh, You're you're laughing at me. Like if you 480 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: want to go back and forth and we exchange words, 481 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: that's one thing. But when you're just laughing, you don't 482 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: have to say a word. Oh man, because Booker is 483 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: just he's not even making eye contact. He's just staring 484 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: straight ahead, and Lucas like looking up at him, like, hey, 485 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: you know you mad bro. It's just that picture? Is 486 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean that picture? It did maybe laugh out loud 487 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: just because the nature of he's looking up like he literally, 488 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: if I can put a thought bubble on Luca Doda, 489 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: just at that moment, it looked like he was saying, 490 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: it's gonna be okay, little buddy, You'll be all right. 491 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: You'll get you'll get under drop don't or he keep 492 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: trying and then if he makes one. Literally he's at 493 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: the point almost where in that game he was gonna 494 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 1: be like he just go right. See it's fun making shots. 495 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: When it goes in, it's a lot more fun. Like 496 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: I just can't think of anything more going. At one 497 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: point he went to in there he got hit converted 498 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: and literally was smiling and it took his hands and 499 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: kind of like rubbed his hands through his hair like 500 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: a model, and I'm going, what is happening at here? 501 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: And so look and look he is he is special. Obviously, 502 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: obviously this guy is something else man. And I think 503 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: dan Or halfway through his rookie year, I described him 504 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: in this way. Larry Bird is my favorite athlete of 505 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: all time, and I said, this guy kind of reminds 506 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: me of Bird, but with a better handle and a 507 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: quicker first step. To think about that combination, that's kind 508 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: of what we have. He's got the nerve, he's got 509 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's not as as pure as shooter his Bird, 510 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: but in some ways more lethal because he can string 511 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: together shots from deep, you know, off the dribble that 512 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: Larry really didn't do. And so for me, the IQ, obviously, 513 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: the passing ability, he's incredible. And that's why I think 514 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: Dallas has a legitimate shot in the series. I'm picking 515 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Golden State to win the series, but this is not 516 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: going to be easy. Yeah, I've mentioned this before. There's 517 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: certain players and I liken them to if we were 518 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: going to attach music to their game. It's jazz. There's 519 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: a jazz feel to Kawhi Leonard that he just moves 520 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: at his own pace, and the same with Luca. In 521 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: a sport where athleticism is always on display, with speed, 522 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: being able to jump quickness, they get to where they 523 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: need to go. You know where they're going to go, 524 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: but you can't stop them. It's just one of those 525 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: weird dynamics about basketball that I don't know if you 526 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: can explain certain players being able to do it in 527 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: a certain way at their own speed. Yeah. Completely, And 528 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: you know I watched some of the guys guarding him 529 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, you look at Michael Bridges, he 530 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: was runner up for Defensive Player of the Year. The 531 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: guy's got you know, he's got seven two wings fan, 532 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: he's six to eight, he's committed to it, and he 533 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: had no he had no ability physically to dictate anything 534 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: to Luca Dodgas like the great defensive players in this league. Typically, 535 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: the reason that we talk about him in that bay 536 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: Dan is because they dictate terms to a certain extent. Now, look, 537 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have great players make shots on guys, but 538 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: over the course of forty eight minutes, they are dictating 539 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: what they're going to allow you to do because they're 540 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: that strong they're that quick, they're that relentless, and Bridges 541 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: wasn't able to really do any of that to Luca Dodge. 542 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: And look, Jaymond Green is not going to get a 543 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: ton of him. He'll get him on some switches. This 544 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: is going to be more about Clay Thompson and Andrew 545 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Wiggins than anything else because they got the size, length, strength. 546 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: But when you watch what Lucas about to do to 547 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: those guys, he hits him with that shoulder on the 548 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: back down, he knocks you backwards and then he spins 549 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: away to get to that fadeaway. There's just not a 550 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: lot you can do it if you want to run 551 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: somebody at him. Okay, here comes Dorian Finney, Smyneth and 552 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: Bullock and Jalen Brunson and Burton's and all these guys 553 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: Kleiba and they can make eighteen threes in the game. 554 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: That's why it's gonna be fascinating to me. And the 555 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: number one thing I'm looking for tonight is what not 556 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: the initial coverage, what does Steve Kurr do as the 557 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: game progresses, As the series progresses, to mix up coverages 558 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: on him because you cannot give him a steady dose 559 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: of anything in one game, because that's a formula for disaster, 560 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: if for a golden state. Always great to catch up 561 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: with your legs. Thanks for joining us anytime. David leg 562 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: ESPN NBA analyst knows a thing or two about shooting. 563 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: We have our play of the day coming up, and 564 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: we'll settle on our poll question. We're back after this, 565 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Shall thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 566 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 567 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 568 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and you can find us on the 569 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 570 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Peacock app my chest. 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Okay, So that's 598 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: what I put up there. I don't have any results yet. 599 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: Who do you think? Why pick Golden State start the 600 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: year to win the championship? All right, of course, I could. 601 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: I forget. I remind you all the time when I'm right. 602 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: You know what? And you know, a typical just like 603 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: a kid goes in one ear out the utter, yeah, 604 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: utter out the utter, yeah, out the utter, yeah, yeah, 605 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: you know. Steph Curry seems pretty secure in his place. 606 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: But for his career legacy if he somehow wins NBA 607 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: Finals MVP a few years down the road from when 608 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: last time I when it songs Kevin Durant, how big 609 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: is that for his try to get in the top 610 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: ten of all time? Well, conversation, we'd like to use 611 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: that word legacy a lot whose legacy would be enhanced 612 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: more winning a championship if I put Jimmy Butler, if 613 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: I put Jason Tatum, Luca or Steph, because Luca is 614 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: doing sort of what Lebron did with his younger days 615 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, where you took a Cavalier's team where he went, 616 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: they're not very good, nice players, but he took them 617 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals. Luca is taking a team that 618 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: might be better than those Cavaliers, but you've gone through 619 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: Phoenix and now you got to go through Golden State 620 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: to be able to do that. And win a championships. 621 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Jimmy Butler winning a championship, that 622 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: would firmly cement Hall of Fame status. Jason Tatum winning 623 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: a championship, elevating him maybe a little bit higher. You know, 624 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: you start to look at these players under twenty five 625 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: and there's quite a group there. And Jason Tatum and 626 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: he had he had a good game, but he had 627 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: he had a bad second half, but he kept him 628 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: in the game. And he's been great all season long. 629 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: But it feels like he could make that quantum leap 630 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: leap as well. Steph, this is all time stuff. This 631 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: is where he moves ahead of Kevin Durant unless he's 632 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: already there ahead of Kevin Durant. I don't know if 633 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: anybody gets into the top ten out of Durant and Steph, 634 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: and we've talked about this a lot. I think Bird 635 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: is going to be the first to come out. It 636 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: feels like out of that top ten. And it's because 637 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: he had a ten year career. Jerry West, he's the logo. 638 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: He didn't win, but that's a different era. It's like 639 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Oscar and Jerry West, Bill Russell Wilt, they're kind of 640 00:35:48,480 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: grandfathered in Kareem Tim Duncan. If Steph has four time titols, 641 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: and I think he's done more to change the game 642 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: than anybody in the history of the sport. Like the 643 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: game itself, Michael popularized globally changed the game, but Steph 644 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: on the court, I don't know if anybody has done 645 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: more to change the philosophy of basketball than Steph Curry. 646 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: But I'm wondering. See, I think Janis at one point, 647 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm dead and gone, is going to 648 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: be a top ten player of all time. Luca. See, 649 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: it's not one of those where you go to Luca 650 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: and you go, well, you know, when he gets older, 651 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to play that way. Well, 652 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: it feels like he plays like he's older. It's it's 653 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like the Greek freak is only getting better. 654 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: He's adding to his game. But there's only room for 655 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: ten in the top ten. It feels like we have 656 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: fifteen guys in the top ten. Who are you taking out? 657 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: Almost I think we're going to have an argument where 658 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: you say, from the year nineteen eighty on, like the 659 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: modern era, the TV era, where everybody played under the 660 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: same spotlight, Whereas if you look at Bill Russell or 661 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: Wilt Jerry Oscar, it feels like they should be there 662 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: should be a line of demarcation to be fair to 663 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: the players now, to be fair to the players before 664 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: you know, you get this argument Bob Couzy couldn't play now. 665 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I mean, maybe couldn't. Bill Russell 666 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't be Bill Russell. Wilt would be a different player. 667 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: Jerry Weston, Oscar Robertson could play now, they could having 668 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: seen them personally in person, they could play now. Wilt 669 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: would be a different player now he couldn't shoot. He 670 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: was powerful, but in today's game that'd be different. Bill 671 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: Russell would be a small forward. He'd be like Ben Wallace, 672 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: not a great shooter, but a winner, did whatever you 673 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: needed him to do. And I understand that. But Bill 674 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Russell wouldn't be Bill Russell. Now what would Shack be 675 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: like if he played back when Bill Russell did? You know? 676 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: It's just you get these arguments there, and I think 677 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: it gets dangerous because then you start to downgrade or 678 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: denigrate somebody, and I don't want to do that. I 679 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: think being fair to generations is important and understanding the 680 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: context of the generation you played in. How great were 681 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: you against your constituents? Yeah, mar I think Lucas in 682 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: a really good spot. But also it could also be 683 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: one of those things where I say, oh, he's young, 684 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: he'll be back. I don't know if he'll be back, 685 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: So this might just be his best chance. I don't 686 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: think it will be, but I can't say, you know, 687 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: if this is nine ninety five, Oh, Orlando, they'll be 688 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: back three or four more times. No, they won't. So 689 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, you probably got to take advantage of it 690 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: of it now. But he's playing himself into all time stuff. Also, 691 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: so he's twenty three, but you know Dan Marino was 692 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: probably twenty three or twenty four and he got to 693 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and we thought, oh Marino, he's going 694 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: to be back, and they never went back. You know. See, 695 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: it's all very Patrick Mahomesy in you could easily sign 696 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: yourself up for seven rings. Easy. They're gonna get out 697 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: of this, take easy, seven rings. The Dynasty of One, 698 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: as I like to tell Nick Wright, that's very as 699 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and Dynasty of One very well said, yeah, yeah. 700 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: Pay Lucas resume, though, is really off to a great start. 701 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: In comparison, like Yannis, Yannis didn't make an All Star 702 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: team until his fourth year in the league. Steff didn't 703 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: make an All Star team until his fifth season league. 704 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: After four years, Lucas got three All Star appearances, a 705 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, and two time First Team All NBA. 706 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: But no MVP. No. See, that's the difference with Jannis 707 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: and Luca. That's we had to vote today. Jannis Yannis 708 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: has two MVPs, and he won a championship, and he 709 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: was the MVP of the finals, and he's been Defensive 710 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. He had there was more of 711 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: a longer ramp up for the Greek freak. But he is. 712 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: He's catching up, you know. He He's made up for 713 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: lost time, that's for sure. But Luca twenty three, I see, 714 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: let's change the poll question for our two who has 715 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: who has more to gain from winning a championship? Jimmy Butler, 716 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Luca and we'll throw Steph in there because 717 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: Steph is a bigger picture. Yeah, Polly, I would compare 718 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: apples and oranges Jimmy Butler to what a title would 719 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: have done for Tony Romo Romo had lots of really 720 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: good regular season stats. If he somehow got one title 721 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: with Dallas, mind you, that puts him in probably in 722 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame with his stats or Cowboys Ring 723 00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: of Honor and all that kind of Well, you can 724 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: be in the Ring of Honor. But well, time Almos 725 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: stats are way better than Eli Manning stands regular season 726 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: noticeably better regular season. Yeah, but who would you want 727 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: the postseason? Yeah? Yeah, that's all I'm saying, Like one 728 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: title for Romo would have he would have been in 729 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: conversations that he's not even close to being in now. Well, 730 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: if you want you want a title with the Cowboys, 731 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: then that feels like it's one and a half titles. 732 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: Now you get a little bit more credit there. Yeah, 733 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: let's let's do that for the pole question. Dylan and Idaho. Dylan, 734 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Yeah? So I've got a 735 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: first time a long time six three two forty. So 736 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: I've got a part of the face bet for anyone 737 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: that wants to take it. I've got the Kansas City 738 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs missing the playoffs this coming season. Okay, I like it. 739 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: I like it. It's hot. Anybody want a piece of 740 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: that bet? The Cancer Chiefs do not make the playoffs 741 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: this year. I got crickets. Anybody han't need to get 742 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: the book here. So we look at the schedule. Okay, 743 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: well the West is it's stacked, Yes, Polly, you would 744 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: think Denver would have more wins. You would think the 745 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Chargers would have more wins, and the Raiders maybe stay 746 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: at what they are. That's there's four playoff postle teams 747 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: in the division. Hey Dell, I'll take it. Yeah, there 748 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: we go. I'll take it. 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