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Speaker 1: Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised a warning

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Speaker 1: before we begin. This week's episode contains mentions of graphic

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Speaker 1: sex and sexual violence. If that's not something you want

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Speaker 1: to listen to, or if you are a younger listener,

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Speaker 1: I would encourage you to skip this episode maybe and

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Speaker 1: come back next week. Revolution was brewing in Paris. There

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Speaker 1: were mobs in the city streets, and on July one,

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighty nine, if anyone in those mobs happened to

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Speaker 1: look up at the Bastille, they would have seen a man,

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Speaker 1: a prisoner, standing in the window of his cell on

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Speaker 1: the sixth floor, shouting down at them. Save the prisoners.

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Speaker 1: The man yelled, their throats are being slack, they're being murdered.

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Speaker 1: You must help. They were dramatic words, words that the

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Speaker 1: prisoner was hoping would incite action. In actuality, the prison

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Speaker 1: was nearly empty. The man shouting down from his window

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Speaker 1: was the only prisoner remaining in his tower.

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Speaker 2: He was short and.

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Speaker 1: Wide, raggedly dressed, as you might expect. If the mob

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Speaker 1: on the street had squinted, they might have seen that

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Speaker 1: the prisoner was holding an object to his mouth like

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Speaker 1: a modern day megaphone, a metallic funnel. Even if they

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Speaker 1: had seen the object, the people on the street probably

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Speaker 1: would not have guessed that the funnel was a piece

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Speaker 1: of the prisoner's urinal though of course, use of the

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Speaker 1: urinal funnel to magnify his voice was entirely functional in

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Speaker 1: this case. The fact that this man one happened to

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Speaker 1: be holding an object associated with bodily waste up to

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Speaker 1: his mouth is uniquely appropriate given who that prisoner was.

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Speaker 2: His name was.

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Speaker 1: Dunisian Alphonse Francois, but he is better known as the

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Speaker 1: Marquis de Sade. He is among the most infamous writers

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Speaker 1: controversial for good reason for his writing depicting gruesome sexual

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Speaker 1: tortures and violence that went as far as murder. His

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Speaker 1: grisly sexual imagination is the origin of the word sadism.

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Speaker 1: Though never quite as violent as his characters, his many

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Speaker 1: stints in prison weren't just for his ideas either. The

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Speaker 1: man poisoned and beat sex workers, and was credibly acute

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Speaker 1: used of kidnapping teenage girls. The Marquis de Sade has

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Speaker 1: been widely censored throughout history, and is also published as

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Speaker 1: a Penguin classic. He has been reconsidered, redeemed and villainized

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Speaker 1: in the changing political winds of history by everyone from

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Speaker 1: Apolloniere to Simone de Beauvoir. He was a writer, above all,

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Speaker 1: known for his libertine works of sexual violence, less known

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Speaker 1: for his political and esthetic writings. And as the Marquis

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Speaker 1: into the metallic funnel, he was also one more thing,

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Speaker 1: perhaps surprisingly, a husband to a remarkably, even strangely devoted wife,

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Speaker 1: a pious woman married to a man who had had

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Speaker 1: endless affairs, mostly with sex workers, but also with her

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Speaker 1: own sister. And yet she had stood by him throughout

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Speaker 1: his many violent indiscretions, his many imprisonments, his burnings in effigy.

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Speaker 1: As the Marquis de Sade stood there in the sixth

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Speaker 1: able to guess that soon he would be removed by

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Speaker 1: his library of six hundred books ranging from Homer to

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Speaker 2: He may have.

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Speaker 1: Had some sense that thirteen days later the Vestille would

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Speaker 1: But surely Sod could not have known that he was

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Speaker 1: first the pages upon pages of his manuscripts, the scrawling

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Speaker 1: and second, at last, his once devoted wife. I'm Dana Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: and this is noble blood. All right, listeners, Right off

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Speaker 1: the bat, this is going to be an edgy one.

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Speaker 1: Before diving into the story of Sod, let's start by

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Speaker 1: acknowledging that sadism from the mind of the Marquis is

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Speaker 1: not the now sex positive and consensual s that you

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Speaker 1: so obscene and violent that I can't won't even suggest

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Speaker 1: them on this podcast. Fifty Shades of Gray is like

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Speaker 1: that his books were quote too immoral to send to

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Speaker 1: My publisher asked me for something quite spicy, and I

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Speaker 1: I can't give details of such works to someone as

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Speaker 1: What I can give is the story of the man

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Speaker 1: behind those works. With that said, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: The Marquis de Sade was born on June two, seventeen forty,

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Speaker 2: Don't get me.

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Speaker 1: Wrong, the Marquis was a legitimate child of his married parents,

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Speaker 1: but Sad's father, Jean Baptiste, only married his wife in

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Speaker 1: for marrying her lady in waiting Marie. Like his eventual

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Speaker 1: son Jean Baptiste, had also been arrested for his sexual

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Speaker 1: exploits with men, and Marie, unsurprisingly was rather absent from

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Speaker 1: the household and from her son's childhood. In a sad

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Speaker 1: little incident from the Marquis de Sad's early life, neither

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Speaker 1: as his absentee parents had originally intended. At age five,

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Speaker 1: impressive library, which included Molieri, Hobbes, and books with titles

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Speaker 1: like The Bordello or The Everyman Debauched and The Good

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Speaker 1: a child who grew up surrounded by promiscuous sex, for

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Speaker 1: or religious restraint, particularly in the bedroom. When sod turned ten,

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Speaker 1: his father sent him to a Jesuit school that disciplined

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Speaker 1: boys by flogging them in front of their classmates. Accusations

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Speaker 1: subject on noble blood, it's unnecessary to the story to

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Speaker 1: either report or speculate on the specifics of the individual's

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Speaker 1: sexual proclivities. But in the Marquis de Sad's life, his

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Speaker 1: known that his honorable discharge papers called him deranged. By

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Speaker 1: the time S'd was twenty two, his father was desperate to.

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Speaker 2: Get him married off.

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Speaker 1: Sad was therefore betrothed to a respectable young woman, renee

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Speaker 1: Pelege Montcre. But six weeks before the wedding, Sada in

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Speaker 1: Provence was writing letters to a different woman he wanted

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Speaker 1: her instead, of course, while saying how much he loved her,

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Speaker 1: he was also calling her an ungrateful wretch and blackmailing

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Speaker 1: her regarding the gonorrhea that he also had likely given her. So, surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 1: creating for the young Rene Pelage Montrell and her mother.

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Speaker 1: I pity them, he wrote, for making such a bad purchase,

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Speaker 1: capable of making all kinds of trouble. Finally, one day

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Speaker 1: then traditional wedding delicacy of artichokes. He married Peleget, who

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Speaker 1: stood four foot ten beside Sod's five foot two. This

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Speaker 1: will and, shockingly The marquis and his new marquise actually

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Speaker 1: De Plusie gray said That Renee pelaget's utter adoration for

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Speaker 1: Untamable three weeks after the, Wedding Renee pelget was. Pregnant

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Speaker 1: violence he had also forced this woman to speak blasphemies Against.

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Speaker 1: God it was Actually s'd's wife and mother in law

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Speaker 1: Born eight months after, That sod was in jail, again

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Speaker 1: this time for seven months for the violent coerced whipping

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Speaker 1: given sex workers a candy that contained a dangerously high

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Speaker 1: dose of an aphrodisiac Called spanish, fly which left at

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Speaker 1: least one girl. Hospitalized Spanish fly is not a. Euphemism

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Speaker 1: it is literally a bug a beatle actually rumored at

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Speaker 1: it was also incredibly, toxic sometimes even deadly in large.

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Speaker 1: Doses this, Time sod was sentenced to be burned and,

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Speaker 2: Common for nobles at the.

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Speaker 1: Time he was burned only in, effigy and the sentence

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Speaker 1: italy with a very particular. Mistress his devoted wife's, Sister Anne,

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Speaker 1: was infatuated with The marquis De. Sad, Still sod's wife

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Speaker 1: stuck by. Him in seventeen seventy, Four sod had serious

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Speaker 1: kidnapping allegations levied against. Him Renee pelge covered for, him

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Speaker 1: knowing all along that he had in fact taken five

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Speaker 1: depraved scenes and. Orgies, finally in seventeen seventy, seven and

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Speaker 1: In an octagonal cell that he plastered with flowers and

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Speaker 1: books in a. Bookcase his collection Included, Homer, Virgil, Shakespeare,

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Speaker 1: it because upon being, Imprisoned sod turned at, last in

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Speaker 1: and strawberries and rosewater he requested to The. Bastille in one,

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Speaker 1: foreign nations in The marquis De sade's books are often,

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Speaker 1: wrong and that's the evidence that The marquis De sade's

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Speaker 1: prison writings were actually reliant on his long suffering. Wife of,

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Speaker 1: course sod was still in prison when he began writing

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Speaker 2: Five he had to be.

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Speaker 1: Secretive he wrote in frenzied three hours from seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Mail that book Was the one hundred and Twenty days Of,

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Speaker 1: to find yourself. Repelled during all this, time the seeds

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Speaker 1: of The French revolution were about to. Bloom revolutionaries were

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Speaker 1: preparing their muskets and sharpening their. Swords The Liberty tower

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Speaker 1: unsurprisingly The bestille guards were not happy with. Him at

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Speaker 1: There sod, assumed of, course that his wife would take

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Speaker 1: Heart we really don't know why at long, last the,

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Speaker 1: seventeen Ninety sad was. Released he was, balding nearly, fifty

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Speaker 1: Last he went immediately to seek her out and found her.

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Speaker 1: Convent he waited patiently For renee pelage to come meet.

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Speaker 2: Him she never.

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Speaker 1: Came your wife does not wish to see you ever,

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Speaker 1: again a messenger Told. Sod she wants a legal. Separation

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Speaker 1: sad never again saw the manuscript that he left.

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Speaker 1: sure Why Renee pelaget changed her mind at. Last it's

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Speaker 1: will add one. Suggestion it must have been much easier

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Speaker 1: pelage her husband's imprisonment must have been a freedom that

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Speaker 1: son from previous. Marriage she became yet another inexplicably devoted.

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Speaker 1: is not. Fair it was After sad's stint in The

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Speaker 1: in his. Lifetime philosophy in The, Boudoir justine And juliette

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Speaker 1: sad was free for only eleven years before he was

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Speaker 1: that's not what. Happened the legacy of The marquis De

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Speaker 1: sade is extremely. Complicated at various points over the, centuries

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Speaker 1: its misogynistic violence and censored all over. Again he is

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Speaker 1: Him he has been revisited by everyone From flaubert To

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Speaker 1: simone De. Beauvoir Mary shelley may have named her case

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Speaker 1: Character justine And, frankenstein After sad's character of the same.

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Speaker 1: Name The one hundred And Twenty days Of sodom was

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Speaker 1: translated anew Into english as A penguin classic in twenty.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen it is complicated to Consider sod in the contemporary.

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Speaker 1: Moment do we defend his works on the basis of

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Speaker 1: abduction and rape actually committed by the man. Himself and

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Speaker 1: how do we even Read sad if we? Do were

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Speaker 1: his writings.

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Speaker 2: Even meant to be? Erotic they may.

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Speaker 1: Have been at least heartly, comedy partly, satire partly political

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Speaker 1: commentary amidst the beheadings and power upheavals of The French.

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Speaker 1: works were just meant to be provocative for the sake of.

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Speaker 1: Provocation Duplicit gray writes that far from intending to arouse the,

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Speaker 1: reader the quote repugnance of the one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: days quote makes it far more conducive to. CHASTITY i

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Speaker 1: have to be honest listener Reading sod's works for this,

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Speaker 1: EPISODE i was second by his treatment of his, characters

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Speaker 1: especially the, women AND i want to be very clear

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Speaker 1: about my opinions. Here, often when researching a historical, FIGURE

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Speaker 1: i find myself ending with more empathy for them than

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Speaker 1: WHEN i. Began but in this CASE i just feel

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Speaker 1: disgusted and yet. Simoned ABOVE whi our mother of second wave,

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Speaker 1: feminism wrote an essay arguing that we should not Burn

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Speaker 1: sod because he shows us something important about the dark

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Speaker 1: heart of. Humanity in the, END i think there's a

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Speaker 1: way to believe That sod should not be jailed for

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Speaker 1: obscenity in his, writing only for his, actions to think

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Speaker 1: think that we need not celebrate in order not to.

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Speaker 1: Censor the heirs Of sod.

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Speaker 2: May feel the.

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Speaker 1: Same the line Of, sod which stretched back to medieval,

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Speaker 1: times stopped using the Title marquis after his death in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen out of. Embarrassment the heirs began to call themselves compt,

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Speaker 1: instead all the way until twenty, fourteen when one heir

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