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Speaker 1: nice parenting tool. Our guest today is Lady A highly

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Speaker 1: it sounded kind of southern and um. And you know,

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00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: as you grow and you see and you're like, there's

428
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: a lot of things. There's a lot of words I

429
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: used to use growing up that like I would never

430
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: even dare think about saying or like trying to And

431
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: we just don't want to be associated with anything that

432
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: would make any negativity, any negativity. We wanted to always

433
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: be about the music. And then like she said, this

434
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: was our you know, are away for us to be

435
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: a part of that change and to say something in

436
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: a strong way. And uh yeah, I mean there was

437
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people from both sides of the argument

438
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: that did not agree with it. But I think our

439
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,239
Speaker 1: fans know our hearts, and I think our fans, you know,

440
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: hopefully applauded us for it, um And only time will tell,

441
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: And I think our actions are gonna tell. I mean,

442
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: we've grown our charity work so much more. I mean

443
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: we've always been really strong with children's organizations and we've

444
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: even grown that and um, a lot of different education programs.

445
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: And I just think after having kids and we've got kids,

446
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: were like, I don't want my kid to in ten

447
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: years when he's in history classical? Why would why do

448
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: y'all name yourself this? Like you know what I mean?

449
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: And I think all those conversations, again, it's not something

450
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: you really think about when you grow up in the South.

451
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: You're just like, is what it is? We kind of

452
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: romantic size words like that, and uh, that's what it

453
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: was about for us, and um, and yeah, I mean

454
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: there was some hiccups early on with it. I mean

455
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: there was some you know, but everybody's been calling this

456
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: lady a literally from the out first year the second show,

457
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: So it was a no brainer. That's about to say.

458
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: I think it would have been tougher if we didn't

459
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: have that. And all of a sudden we were called, hey, guys,

460
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: you remember that band. Now they're called two Dudes of

461
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: the Chip. You know what I mean? Meant to be

462
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. Yeah, I wouldn't have. That's interesting, UM.

463
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: And you're each and successful relationships and you have a

464
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: successful relationship with one another, which is very uh admirable.

465
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: And we talk a lot about successful relationships on this podcast.

466
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: What are your number one sort of rules rules and

467
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: relationships about either communicating or arguing or you know, and

468
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: what are parallels in business that you find in your

469
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: personal relationships. I mean, I feel like being in partnership

470
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: with charleson Dave years before I got married, helped prepare

471
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: me for marriage. I think just with communicating with two men,

472
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: with two men who communicate very differently from one another. UM.

473
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: I I think it's taught me a lot. Um. There's

474
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: two obviously that I'm in a band within a bus

475
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: full in those early years, you know, with our band, UM,

476
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: so it definitely helped me. And I think you know,

477
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: Chris and I we met in college. We're friends, and

478
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: then really reconnected and started dating about almost six years later.

479
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: So there was this comfort level that I had with

480
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: him that he had known me prior to any kind

481
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: of rise to fame. UM. And he was a drummer,

482
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: and so after we got engaged, we brought him on

483
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: as our drummer. He toured with us for seven years, UM,

484
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: through the first UM for through the birth of our

485
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: first daughter. She came out on the road with us,

486
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: and then when we got pregnant with our twins. Because

487
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: our twins just turned four, UM, he said it's time.

488
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's time for me to step

489
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: aside and I would love nothing more than to be

490
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: a full time dad. And that's what he's been doing

491
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: for four years. Really interesting and was it hard to

492
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: work for someone who's in the same industry. I mean,

493
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: it was hard to be in a relationship with someone

494
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: that you work with, you know. I think we because

495
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: there were kind of three bosses, there was a nice

496
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: balance to like we would make decisions. I felt like

497
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: we really managed it well. I mean there's there was

498
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: definitely some you know, it was it was something to navigate,

499
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: I think, but all things considering, UM, it was it

500
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: felt pretty easy. And y'all could speak to that. Yeah,

501
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I mean, I think it was nice

502
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: because you know, Hillary's she's such a home body too.

503
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: I think earlier on it was like we brought him

504
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: on and he's one of the best drummers, so it

505
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: wasn't like we're sitting here breaking on some awful drummer,

506
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: and he was so special and uh and you know,

507
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: it probably if anything for her not getting a break

508
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: from your your husband, because I will say sometimes having

509
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: that healthy break is nice. But she's such a home body.

510
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: I think it helped her not miss home so much

511
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: having him out there on the road. You know, we

512
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: were so it was a busy time. And then being

513
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: able to have um, you know, our our kids out

514
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: there on the road. I just think because my wife

515
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: doesn't work and she's able to come out any time,

516
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: and that's such a blessing and so um, you know,

517
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: I think in the end it was it was such

518
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: a great decision. And I I mean, I was honestly

519
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: really bummed when he decided that he wanted to step

520
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: off the road for a while because he's such a

521
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: great drummer. But I totally understand it and respected and

522
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: and I just think that's it's just that whole part

523
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: of our little evolution. It's uh, I mean, gosh, we

524
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: used to stay up drinking after every show till two

525
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: and then after about five years it was all right

526
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: a little and then now it's like you know we're

527
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: getting done with the show and I'm I'm tucking my

528
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 1: baby into bed, you know, and watching you know, HDTV

529
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: right and drinking wheat grass exactly. Yeah, I mean I

530
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: think this I was just gonna add. I mean I

531
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: think this relationship, I mean just feels like a marriage.

532
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've learned so much of the

533
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: last few years how benefits one healthy it is to

534
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: just have an open line of communication. Um, much like

535
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: a marriage. I mean, we're not going anywhere, We're not

536
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: walking away from each other. So if somebody has something

537
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: to say, we we listen, we find a way to

538
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: say it together in person and work through it and

539
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: top through it. And I don't We've walked out of

540
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: so many great moments understanding each other better, understanding each

541
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: other's priorities, and understanding what we all want for the

542
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: band as a whole. The any the Instagram was really

543
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: good for you are heard of the Instagram where you're like,

544
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: are you a one or two? A nine different personality?

545
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: You'll have to like it's basically kind of like it's

546
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: almost like just how we have there's like nine different

547
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: really different personality traits, strong personality traits and how we

548
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: communicate with each other, and the three of us are

549
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: all very different, and how we grew up. It's very different.

550
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: You know, if you came from a family where y'all

551
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: like yelling and arguing was just part of it. That

552
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: if you came from a family that I was that

553
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: who did who came from an arguing for sure? I mean,

554
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: but brothers, sisters, you know, And so like when I

555
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: used to get really passionate about something, hands are going

556
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: this in the will in your face, and it was like, okay, oh,

557
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I never thought that that was, you know, something that

558
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: was a little that's interesting so much with self awareness,

559
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: I feel like the angiogram, it just helps you kind

560
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: of figure out how you respond and and stress, how

561
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: you respond in health and um and a lot of

562
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: companies I think have started bringing it in to show

563
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: their I love that, I can't. I can't. Didn't know

564
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: this right, it's really intrigued. It's fascinating. Wow, Okay, I'm

565
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: going to look at it. But it's it's like the

566
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: disc profiling if you've ever heard any of those personality typings.

567
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: But it just gave us some tools to understand, you know,

568
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: for someone like me, I'm conflict avoided. So I walk

569
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: into a room and I'm like, how do I not

570
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: say anything about anything? You know, that's just that's just

571
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: who I am and so like, But for them to

572
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: know that and understand that, then it's you know, for

573
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: them to reach out and go, hey, how do you

574
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: feel about this? What are you thinking about this decision

575
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: we need to make? That's a big decision. So it's

576
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: just get It's given us a lot of grace and

577
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: empathy for each other. It's been a great um just

578
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: a tool, but it's just been given us a lot

579
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: of empathy, but just a relationship has grown light years

580
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: in the last three to four years. I feel like

581
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: just learning each other better. We're all in different places

582
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: with our families. We just feel like we are on

583
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: the same track with priorities what we want for the band.

584
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we just want to work smart, not crazy hard,

585
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: m continue to do into the music. And I mean

586
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: when we're happy in our personal lives, then we walk

587
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: into a songwriting room and that's when I think we

588
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: really write great stuff. And so how do we keep

589
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: our product and keep our music at the top. And

590
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: it comes with us kind of staying healthy and happy personally.

591
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: That's so true because I find that my greatest creative

592
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: times are when I'm relaxing, like when you've had some

593
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: time to and not the first day, like when you've

594
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: really just folded, like allowed yourself to relax and heal.

595
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: You know, the best ideas are between sleep and wake.

596
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: That's because you're not like dead, You're not like not awake,

597
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: but you're also not like let's go and then I

598
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: do this and I got to do that. You're kind

599
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: of like in that hazy time, you can actually have

600
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: a thought. So I think that's really interesting. Um and

601
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: I agree, and I like I stack, meaning if I'm

602
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: have hair and makeup on, I want to do all

603
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: the things we have to do and bang it out

604
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: today so I can then have that other day to

605
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: just be with my daughter and breathe. I feel like

606
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: as we get older, we're not just like sort of

607
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: young and living on fumes and it doesn't matter. You

608
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: know that balance is important. Who spends the most money,

609
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know. It might be us kids

610
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: that might count your balance. None of you are crazy?

611
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: Oh who did you just point to? I think Mick Casson.

612
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: I travel so much like we we'd like to do

613
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: a lot of travels and I mean, I'm not gonna

614
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: be like what those guys are my wife spend any

615
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, we both like I will say, like yeah,

616
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: we we we we we can go pretty hard and

617
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: paint when we want to, especially with like wine dinners

618
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: and travel and you're living. But you know, we're also

619
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: really smart too. I mean we grew up Dave and

620
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: I you know, we went business school and so I

621
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: feel like I've got you know, we've got families that

622
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: really you know, we were really lucky. All three of

623
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: us grew up with just great supportive families and kind

624
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: of learned early on. You know, we didn't want to

625
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: make any of the mistakes that a lot of you know,

626
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: artists and people can make of you know, just blowing

627
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: it all in the first few years. So we've been

628
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: pretty smart. But we all spend a lot of money

629
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: on different things. That's like, you've got an incredible studio

630
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: and you're invested in your guitars, and you know, I've

631
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of children clothes, and you like to travel,

632
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: so it's like like experiences. Yeah, She's like, maybe we

633
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: have more money. That's been traveling. If you stopped joining

634
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: golf course, that's amazing. But you and you all grew

635
00:31:53,360 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: up upper middle middle where I grew up pretty pretty modest. Um.

636
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: And then when my parents got their job with Reba,

637
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: that really changed everything. I'd say I had a little

638
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: bit of a juxtaposition. It was like my parents divorced

639
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: when I was five. Um, and my mama, my mama,

640
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: she never remarried, never, but she still got child supore

641
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: from my dad. But he was a cardiologist. So I

642
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: live with my mama during the week and you know,

643
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: it was pretty modest, but but but nice and and

644
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: then I'd like to see my dad on the weekend,

645
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, and then you kind of get into that

646
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: that whole like the country, cold world. And so I

647
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: had this really interesting juxtaposition growing up, which I think

648
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: it kind of was really nice. It it almost sometimes

649
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: made me aspire to want to get over here, but

650
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: then also recognize of what I hate about a lot

651
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 1: of that and yeah, more of a ground in effect. Uh.

652
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: And I had a lot of freedom. I will say, Um,

653
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: I live with my mom, me and my siblings. I

654
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: mean we kind of, you know, really learned how to

655
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: become self starters and and and there was a lot

656
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: of that because I do think, you know, we didn't

657
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: have quite as much discipline, you know, so you have

658
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: to kind of find your own discipline and and and

659
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: in control. But I think all I mean, I think

660
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: all of our parents really taught us the value of

661
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: a dollar. I mean, we grew up in just kind

662
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: of suburban neighborhoods. You know. My first car was like

663
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: a three thousand dollar Honda Civic from the eighties. You know,

664
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: just kind of just a good balance. I feel like

665
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: my dad was is a dentist, uh and Georgia, but

666
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, just a great upbringing and trying to teach

667
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: us all the good well around the principles. And I'm lucky.

668
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: I feel like we're lucky because you know, when when

669
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: you do have some wealth that does come in the door,

670
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: you really, you know, I'm very thankful that we are prepared.

671
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: We see things the same way. We put a portion

672
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: of every dollar we make into our charity organization. We

673
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: really just I think make wise choices in that space.

674
00:33:52,000 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: And so that's something I'm crowded with us too. Um,

675
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: would you consider yourselves lucky or smart? What percentage interesting?

676
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: I think it's all I think. I'll I was about

677
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: to say, it's definitely a balance. I mean, man, I

678
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: mean in the beginning, I will say highly lucky that

679
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: our n into Hillary at the bar, because I don't

680
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: know where we would have gone, what what direction you

681
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: know it would have taken. But I think once we

682
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: started this band, we were incredibly savvy and we worked

683
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: our butts off. We wrote every day like that was

684
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: the luck. But you were prepared for the luck. That

685
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: was the fish, but you had nets and yeah, but

686
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: there's I mean, Dave's really really smart, so I would

687
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: say his charts, your balance is going to be, you know.

688
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's right place, right time. I mean, we

689
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: just we things just kind of. I mean, there's so

690
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: many talent to people in Nashville. It's shot me even

691
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: just the music that you all know how to Nashville,

692
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, behind the curtain, I mean that's the tip

693
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: of the iceberg. So there's so much great art coming

694
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: out of this city. I mean I walked down Broadway

695
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: and see bands playing and still kick myself that we

696
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: actually get to go do it in a big arena

697
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: or amphitheater. So definitely, definitely luck would get a good okay,

698
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: but it's not. You guys are all so nice, so

699
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: you're probably well liked in the industry, which gets you

700
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: pretty far, you know, to be to be well liked.

701
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: And also a genre that is supposed to be authentic,

702
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, a genre of music that people want to

703
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: be humble and authentic that you know a bunch of er.

704
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great artists there, really is. I mean,

705
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: you got your handful of of of you know, highly

706
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: egoed artists out there. But for the most part, our

707
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: genre is we're really fortunate and I mean not call.

708
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: I would say the people in our genre really really

709
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: close friends. And there's a I want to come. I well,

710
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: I've been, but like to say, books in a mall somewhere,

711
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: so I only saw the inside of a hotel. So

712
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: I would love to come. I would love to feel

713
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, do like a prison award,

714
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: but then come to the little parties afterwards and you

715
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: can really everybody. Yeah, just let me right in the

716
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: eye of the storm. So I could do in one

717
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: shot like the Jiffy Loube of Nashville. One night, I

718
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: could just like, I know it's time on one night. Yeah,

719
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: all right, um, and then what last question? Is your

720
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: rose and your thorn of your careers not live it's

721
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: not you know, personal lives. I'll say the roses the music.

722
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: For me, the thorn has probably been controlling my drinking.

723
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: I really call up in it. You know, the past

724
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: fifteen years of doing this, it's been it's been a

725
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: constant roller coaster. There's always an excuse to drink when

726
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: you're in the music business. Yeah, I mean, it's just

727
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: it becomes a past time. Even in life though, with

728
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: people in the pandemic, it becomes like, let's just you know,

729
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: it becomes like thematic, the way that you go and

730
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: want hot coco and it's snowing, just like, oh, let's

731
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: have a drink. Let's just have a drink. It sounds

732
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: so great to have a drink. Yeah, So do you

733
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: not drink? Are you recovering or not? But you know,

734
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm never going to, but definitely have

735
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: the pandemic. I had to take a take a little break. Well,

736
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: that's interesting to people now that aren't making grant statements,

737
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: and it may not have presented a massive problem, they

738
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: just don't feel great about it. And the things that

739
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: it's bringing their lives. Also, you're not trapping yourself in

740
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: some corner that it's like I drunk. You know, that's

741
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: an interesting that's balanced in my opinion, the relationship with

742
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: with with that because I feel the same way sometimes

743
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: as we get older, we just don't like the way

744
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: it makes us feel or you know whatever. It is

745
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: so interesting and what about you, I would say the

746
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: rose is, I would I would combine that like my music,

747
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: the creative space, and my family and the help of

748
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: both of those out like that. I really I'm just

749
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: really happy and at the moment. And then the thorn

750
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: would be it's really hard to travel as a mom

751
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: and leave your kids at home. Um. You know, we

752
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: get the chance to bring them with us whenever we

753
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: choose to, and but they're all at ages now that

754
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: um that you know. My oldest is like she wants

755
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: to go to her back to school thing. We played

756
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: Nashville the same night that her back to school bash

757
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: was at her school and she was like, sorry, mom,

758
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: see you later. You know, well, right, it's also a

759
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: distraction to you. No matter what you say. In theory,

760
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, mommy is doing h just saying,

761
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: and they don't care. She doesn't want to see me

762
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: hawking clothes on television, you know, and that's not as

763
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: exciting as being an amazing singer. But even when I

764
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: used to spend TV, she doesn't want to sit in

765
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: a room and look at a camera of me in

766
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: the other room, like it's not what we imagine. And

767
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: then the movies you see like they're coming with the

768
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: parents and they're so excited they're cheering at It's not

769
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: really like that in real life in my life, right,

770
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: I agree, And that I think because my I was

771
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: that child whose parents toured a lot, and so I

772
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: think a part of my story and the healing around

773
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: a lot of that for me has been just trying

774
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: to be as present as possible. And it's more quantity

775
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: over quality when we're in those busy seasons, and so

776
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: just trying to learn learn that and not be too

777
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: hard on myself and also be extremely intentional with the

778
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: time that that I do have. Um So that would be, yeah,

779
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: leaving my kiddos would be I get that. I get that.

780
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I think we all feel that too. I mean, it's

781
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: a great question, A great question, bethany Um I think,

782
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, for me, the health of the relationship is

783
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: kind of what we started off the conversation with. It

784
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: is just the rose I mean to be in this

785
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen years and to go through incredible highs, incredible lows,

786
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: all kinds of things personally and professionally, and it will

787
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: still be here. And right when we walked in before this,

788
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: we're like catching up about what our kids are doing,

789
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: and what we're gonna do in Vegas and where we're

790
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna go out to eat this weekend. You know that

791
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: that just makes me happy and kind of fills my

792
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: heart up for sure. So the health of the relationship

793
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: is a joy. I mean, I think the thorn, I

794
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: mean the first thing that came to mind was comparison,

795
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, just sort of like I think that was

796
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: something I'm cognizant of now, but you know, early on,

797
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: like you're watching what everyone's doing and trying to beat

798
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: out the next person. And that's just I mean, it's

799
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: the classic, you know, it's the thief of joy, you know,

800
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: comparing yourself to what others are doing in the industry

801
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: and you know what another artist is doing or what

802
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: a big pop artist is doing, and why can't we

803
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: do that? So I mean that was more of an

804
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: early on thing, but that came to my mind too.

805
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Of that that's a great answer because it's a necessary

806
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: evil too. Don't know what other people are doing, you

807
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like for sure, because otherwise you

808
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: just don't even understand what's going on. But to gauge

809
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: your success on how you are coming, Oh yeah no.

810
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: And it's funny because this sounds and I feel like

811
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: I sound like an idiot and ignorant idiot every time

812
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: I say this, but it's the truth. I have never

813
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: listened to a podcast. This podcast is very successful and

814
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: I've had incredible guests on, and I have not listened

815
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: to a podcast because I wanted to do my own

816
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: authentic way. And even I've spoken a publicist that would

817
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: be like ask them that, like ask somebody the other day,

818
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: like ask about who they're dating because they're reading headlines.

819
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: They wanted to be one of those chop shop podcast

820
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: they could just rat out people. You could have been

821
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: in the press last week about something drinking and I

822
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: didn't know about it. Because that's not how I approach this.

823
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: I approach it by just like reading about you. So

824
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: I know what you're You're kind of your story is

825
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: what i'd rather hear from you and explore. So in

826
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: many ways, it's good to In some ways, you've got

827
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: to know what's going on in the industry. I know

828
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: it's going in the industry of podcasting, but I don't

829
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: know what. So you know what you need to know

830
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: what's going on the music industry, but not like the

831
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: way that Joe Blow is doing their music or the

832
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: tricks they're doing or whatever. You know, I'm not going

833
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: to this kind of stuff. But I think that's an

834
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: interesting distinction to understand the business in the industry but

835
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: have your own creative way of doing things and staying

836
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: true to that, because otherwise you're in the middle of

837
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: two spaces. Then now I'm trying to ask a stupid

838
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: salacious question about you that someone told me to ask

839
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: that I don't give a shit about, and then I'm

840
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: not you know what I mean. So I'm half an asshole.

841
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: So I'd rather just do it without listening to the

842
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: way people do podcast So that you just reminded me

843
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: of that, Yeah, Totally'd rather be a full asshole than

844
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: a half an asshole. Yeah. So, by the way, that's

845
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: exactly rather full. That's funny. I'd rather be I would

846
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: totally rather be a full asshole and a half um Wow,

847
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: I love you, boss. This is so fun. Thank you

848
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: so much for coming on. I really enjoyed the conversation.

849
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. Its great to connect again.

850
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: I remembered that that was we admit briefly there and

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Speaker 1: I remember we were like, let's stay in touch or

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna stay in touch for.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I remember you had like a quilt

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Speaker 1: or something. There was a quilt. There was a quil. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you had betting. You had a line of betting, had

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Speaker 1: a quilt. I was like, I know, I'm not crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just remember that. I never

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Speaker 1: of the skinny girl something with Yeah Nashville. Alright, skinny

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Speaker 1: girls Southern. I need to come to Nashville and we

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Speaker 1: need to connect. So so good to me. We'll do

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Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna do these touring maybe we'll do one

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Speaker 1: in Nashville. Actually, all right, I won't keep you. Have

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Speaker 1: a great day. Yeah, that was so interesting. I met

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Speaker 1: them years ago, and I love meeting people that just

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Speaker 1: live in a world that is so entirely different from

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Speaker 1: my world. I just don't know anything about music industry,

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Speaker 1: certainly not what that's like in Nashville, and I just

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Speaker 1: find this to be such a great place for natural curiosity,

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Speaker 1: just to find out who people are and what a

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Speaker 1: testament to be a band that's been together for fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: which is like a marriage, and they're just normal. They're

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Speaker 1: just like normal. You'd see them at the car pole,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like normal like dad's and moms at

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Speaker 1: the car pool. So I just thought that was so

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Speaker 1: so interesting and so sweet, and I like the conversation

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Speaker 1: about about the the appropriate level of fame where you

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Speaker 1: still can totally have a life, but you got a

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Speaker 1: little bit of this of the shine, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the sizzle. But it was amazing. Just Be is

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Speaker 1: hosted by me Bethany Frankel. Just Be is a production

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