WEBVTT - SPOILER REVIEW: The Batman

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to a special edition a Movie

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<v Speaker 1>Mix Movie podcast. This is a spoiler version of the

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<v Speaker 1>Batman review, which I normally keep everything on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>completely spoiler free, so I don't ruin anything for anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but with a big movie, I always like to get

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<v Speaker 1>into all the details and talk spoilers, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>only if you've seen The Batman. If you haven't yet,

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<v Speaker 1>well click off of this and don't come at me

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm going to talk about a lot of spoilers,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is your last chance to get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, now that we're all here. I also like

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<v Speaker 1>doing these reviews because I'm a little bit more kind

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<v Speaker 1>of open with everything because I don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about saying anything wrong or giving away any endings. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into all that here now. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to start with why I didn't rate The Batman

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<v Speaker 1>higher and the flaws that I found with it that

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't mention in the you know, spoiler free version,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate to start at the end, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't love the hint an introduction of the Joker. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel like, now that's a character you can't

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<v Speaker 1>really touch one because Heath Ledger has already played him

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<v Speaker 1>so well in the Dark Night, but too because I

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<v Speaker 1>loved Joaquin Phoenix as a Joker and him in that

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<v Speaker 1>role is just what I want to see now, and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a third or I guess this would be a

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<v Speaker 1>fourth version because of Jared Leto, I wasn't into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like that took a little bit out of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie at the end for me, so seeing them

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<v Speaker 1>hint at that, and I don't know exactly what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the sequel to this, which they're saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe the Riddler and the Joker breakout of

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<v Speaker 1>Arkham and that's the next movie. But that's what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of took a little bit away from me, as I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't love the Joker in it. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that was a little bit weird for me watching this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is I know it had to be greedier and

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<v Speaker 1>completely separate itself from The Dark Knight because if it didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>people would just say it ripped that off and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't unique enough. And with it being now that grittier,

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<v Speaker 1>darker version, there was something that lacked a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>in the fight scenes that happened, you know, in Gotham

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<v Speaker 1>that made me realize I was watching a movie and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was just a personal thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but when I saw Batman fighting some of the thugs,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt for the first time that I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching some dude in the costume being a vigilante and

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<v Speaker 1>saw like how that would really play out in the

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<v Speaker 1>real world. And it felt a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>dumb idea to me that it took me a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit out of the idea of Batman just being the

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<v Speaker 1>super rich guy that did all these cool, amazing things

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<v Speaker 1>and had all these gadgets, that just Batman being this

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<v Speaker 1>dude that went out and played dress up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had that, you know, thought, for just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie that a little bit took me out of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it being how I described it, being a masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the two things that I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, I was going to rank this movie and

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot harsher on it because I was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>it to be that good. But now that I got

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<v Speaker 1>what I didn't like out of the way, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into what I loved. And I think it was the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Robert Pattinson was so different as the Batman

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that I wasn't expecting. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>ever think of Batman being this really weird outcast before

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<v Speaker 1>and having that idea really play out and done so

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<v Speaker 1>well here, it just gives it a whole different feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the movie I've been wanting to see and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how it would get delivered. And with his

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<v Speaker 1>true detective skills coming out in this movie, it just

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<v Speaker 1>made it so fun to watch. And the Riddler's entire

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<v Speaker 1>diabolical planning, this was so almost chilling and real like,

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<v Speaker 1>resembled real life so much that at times it was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit scary, Like I don't think this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is for everybody, because it gets a little bit so

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<v Speaker 1>realistic that it makes you feel like in today's world,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a little bit dark. And that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>comes back to in this movie how the Wayne family

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<v Speaker 1>is actually flawed, and a point they get into is

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<v Speaker 1>the whole story behind how his parents died was actually

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to cover up something, But then you

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<v Speaker 1>find out on a much bigger scale they were actually

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<v Speaker 1>trying to at the core do good. But in Riddler,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to expose all these people and gotha them and

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<v Speaker 1>show them for you know, the awful people, awful things

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<v Speaker 1>they've done. They go after Bruce Wayne, and they go

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<v Speaker 1>after Batman and him revealing all these things about people

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<v Speaker 1>after he kills them, just a it's like this other

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<v Speaker 1>big layer. It's like, oh man, this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>intense villain, and it doesn't feel like you're watching just

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<v Speaker 1>a normal comic book villain. This could be a real

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's like sitting behind a computer and finding out

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<v Speaker 1>all these things. He just feels like this hacker persona,

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<v Speaker 1>which I know they based it a lot on the

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<v Speaker 1>Zodiac Killer, but putting it in you know what would

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as it just felt so realistic of like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this could actually happen. And yeah, just having that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>and that idea of Bruce Wayne and his family, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having a dark past was something we hadn't seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>And for some people it feels a little bit like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, this is this is Bruce Wayne, this is Batman.

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<v Speaker 1>But it makes the ending that much more heroic. Before

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<v Speaker 1>I get into more talking about the ending, I really

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<v Speaker 1>even though it I didn't get taken out a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit from some of the fight scenes because of that reason,

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part A couple of my favorite parts. One

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<v Speaker 1>was the chase scene between Batman and Penguin. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest chasings I've ever seen, and it created this

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<v Speaker 1>emotion of you really wanting to see Batman just pummel somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I think really great superhero movies do is

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<v Speaker 1>they give you that, you know, that feeling of wanting

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<v Speaker 1>them to take down the villain at different parts in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie and not quite getting there, getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit closer, but not quite getting there, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>they actually do get the villain, it's so gratifying, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I really felt that in this chase scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of hoped that the Penguin would have had

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger role throughout this entire movie. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a little bit more of the as

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<v Speaker 1>the main villain, but the Riddler totally still the show here.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I think what I do kind of see coming,

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<v Speaker 1>especially going into the sequel of this is the Penguin

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<v Speaker 1>growing strong, younger and stronger, and then becoming more of

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<v Speaker 1>a force. You'd see a little bit more of, just

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<v Speaker 1>like his introductory stages here. Feel a great villain. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think what really set this movie apart was the

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<v Speaker 1>ending when they finally capture the Riddler in kind of

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<v Speaker 1>anti climatic way of his actual arrest, but the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing leading up to them, all the details of the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the Riddler played Batman got him to do

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what he wanted to do, landed him in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was such a mind game. And that scene

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<v Speaker 1>at the asylum where the Riddler is in jail, Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Pattinson as Batman is there, you know, interrogating him. That

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<v Speaker 1>was my other favorite scene when the Riddler tells Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not as smart as I thought you were, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a part that was in the trailer, And going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the trailer, it was able to show these

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<v Speaker 1>little moments that you thought were going to be bigger things,

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<v Speaker 1>and the movie was a completely different story than I

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<v Speaker 1>was expecting. So I love that I didn't give that

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<v Speaker 1>away in the trailer, but with that line, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so chilling and such a turning point in the movie

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<v Speaker 1>to where you thought it was already over, it wasn't over.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that the Riddler was able to play

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<v Speaker 1>Batman was a truly great accomplishment and film. It was

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<v Speaker 1>such a great twist and I'm just sad that I

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<v Speaker 1>won't be able to experience that again and feel that

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<v Speaker 1>same way. That's why I think the beauty and what

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<v Speaker 1>would go against this Batman movie is once you've experienced

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<v Speaker 1>all these twists in turns, you know what's coming, it

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<v Speaker 1>may not make it that much of a rewatchrble movie,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm starting to consider if I should really even

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<v Speaker 1>put into consideration with thinking how good a movie is.

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<v Speaker 1>Some movies are only meant to be that exciting one time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love that scene and what that scene sets

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<v Speaker 1>up is Batman truly saving the city of Gotham, which

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen time and time again the theme of every

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<v Speaker 1>Batman movie he tries to save the city. But here

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<v Speaker 1>you have this grittier and more fleshed out version of

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<v Speaker 1>Batman to where he now has a whole, entirely different

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he's fighting, why he's trying to do good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's trying to prove to people that the Wayne name

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<v Speaker 1>isn't disgraced while saving the people of Gotham at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time and proving that he isn't as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>a person or a bad person at all. That the

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<v Speaker 1>Driddlers trying to play him out to be, and that

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<v Speaker 1>scene when all the bombs in the vans start to

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<v Speaker 1>go off around Gotham City, the entire city starts to

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<v Speaker 1>get flooded and the Batman has to spring into action

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<v Speaker 1>was quite utterly amazing. And again it goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>it being so real and so life like that the

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<v Speaker 1>entire Riddler scheme was him recruiting people online to basically

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<v Speaker 1>set up this you know, slaughtering of people, getting them

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<v Speaker 1>all joined at one place and then essentially picking them off.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that was pretty scary to portray in a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in today's world. I felt a little bit scared

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<v Speaker 1>by that, and I like dark twist and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>even to me, I was like, I can't believe, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is the direction they're going. But the reason it

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<v Speaker 1>worked is because Batman was there to save the day,

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<v Speaker 1>and at this point in the movie, I loved seeing

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<v Speaker 1>him so broken down physically and mentally, and the moment

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<v Speaker 1>of satisfaction to where he was able to beat that

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<v Speaker 1>one guy to a bloody poll after you know, stabbing

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<v Speaker 1>himself and reviving himself was so gratifying to watch. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the moment I love and superhero movies in any

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<v Speaker 1>movie where they are finally able to overcome everything and

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<v Speaker 1>have that big Hurrah moment. But the difference in this

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<v Speaker 1>movie then Marvel movies is in Marvel movies, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more of like a cheering you know, you see

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<v Speaker 1>those reaction videos, everybody going crazy in the theater. This

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<v Speaker 1>was almost just the more internal like brought me joy,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not, So it didn't feel like I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching a supporting event like I did when I watched

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man you know, No Way Home. Like I I

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<v Speaker 1>yelled during No Way Home, I didn't feel the need

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<v Speaker 1>to yell during Batman because it just has a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different feeling to it. And I think Spider Man No

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<v Speaker 1>Way Home was very much playing onto fans like those

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<v Speaker 1>Those movies just serve fans like me so well. But

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<v Speaker 1>what the Batman did was serve any level of movie

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<v Speaker 1>fan if you're into dark stuff like this. But that

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<v Speaker 1>scene where he saves the day, it was so different

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<v Speaker 1>because what happens afterwards, It's something I've never seen in

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<v Speaker 1>a Batman movie. He goes on to immediately start saving people.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that's important is because all the other

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<v Speaker 1>times of every portrayal of Batman really any superhero. They

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<v Speaker 1>do all these things to stop the villain, They make

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<v Speaker 1>all this collateral damage to quote unquote save the city,

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<v Speaker 1>but in that process, they don't really help people. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't really seem like people doing those little small things.

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<v Speaker 1>And while they save people from maybe you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire city baby dying, they don't really hop into action

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<v Speaker 1>to do the little things. They're not there for the cleanup.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see the Avengers out there picking up or

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<v Speaker 1>extinguishing all the buildings they set on fire. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment, you see Batman, after he just did one

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<v Speaker 1>heroic thing after another, immediately going in and starting to

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<v Speaker 1>rest you people. And he wasn't even a superhero in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. He wasn't even Batman. He was like a

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<v Speaker 1>first responder. He was out there, you know, in his

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<v Speaker 1>Batman suit, but covered in mud, pulling people from the wreckage,

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<v Speaker 1>getting people out, helping kids on stretchers, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>them rescued, and being there to pick up the pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was something I've never really seen in any superhero,

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<v Speaker 1>just be a real person trying to do something good.

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<v Speaker 1>While he is this vigilante, he's also there just to help.

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<v Speaker 1>And after all this destruction of Gotham. There's no big

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<v Speaker 1>sunshiny day. Right after that final scene, it actually talks

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<v Speaker 1>about them, you know, having to live with the effects

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<v Speaker 1>of like you know, it took weeks or months even

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<v Speaker 1>to recover from this. They referenced the National Guard coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really felt like Gotham was actually a real

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<v Speaker 1>city and all these things were happening for a reason

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't just in some big fantasy world. It

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<v Speaker 1>just felt yeah, more realistic in that sense. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other part is that catwoman in this was the smartest

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<v Speaker 1>person to be, one of the only people to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you must be rich. The way you're talking, in the

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<v Speaker 1>way you're saying these things, you must have grown up rich.

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<v Speaker 1>The only person who's ever kind of put that thing

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<v Speaker 1>together of like, well, there's this guy who runs around

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<v Speaker 1>this town with all these cool expensive gadgets, how is

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<v Speaker 1>he able to do this, Well, he must be a billionaire, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>no one never puts that together that Bruce Wayne, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the richest people in Gotham, couldn't be Batman. So

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<v Speaker 1>I love that aspect too. I love the explosions. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the greediness and the realness of all those fighting

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<v Speaker 1>and chase scenes, and I love that feeling it gave

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<v Speaker 1>me once he finally was able to win and prove himself.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is it. My full spoiler review of The

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<v Speaker 1>Batman and I talked about a little bit earlier, but

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like there will be a sequel going into

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<v Speaker 1>this in the same world of the Riddler escaping, possibly

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<v Speaker 1>teaming up with the Joker. I'm excited to see Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Pattinson in another movie. I would love to see them

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<v Speaker 1>bring in other villains again. I don't love the reintroduction

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<v Speaker 1>of a different Joker, but what I've heard from director

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Reeves is he will have a different spin on

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<v Speaker 1>the Joker. He's not going to have an origin story

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<v Speaker 1>of a guy who was dropped into acid. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like what Keen Phoenix is Joker. He will just be

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<v Speaker 1>utterly disturbed individual and I kind of think that will

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<v Speaker 1>play up nicely into countering The Batman. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>There's my full spoiler review. I hope you have watched

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoyed The Batman as much as I did.