Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to a special edition a Movie
Speaker 1: Mix Movie podcast. This is a spoiler version of the
Speaker 1: Batman review, which I normally keep everything on the podcast
Speaker 1: completely spoiler free, so I don't ruin anything for anyone,
Speaker 1: but with a big movie, I always like to get
Speaker 1: into all the details and talk spoilers, so this is
Speaker 1: only if you've seen The Batman. If you haven't yet,
Speaker 1: well click off of this and don't come at me
Speaker 1: because I'm going to talk about a lot of spoilers,
Speaker 1: So this is your last chance to get out of here,
Speaker 1: all right, now that we're all here. I also like
Speaker 1: doing these reviews because I'm a little bit more kind
Speaker 1: of open with everything because I don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about saying anything wrong or giving away any endings. But
Speaker 1: we're going to get into all that here now. I
Speaker 1: wanted to start with why I didn't rate The Batman
Speaker 1: higher and the flaws that I found with it that
Speaker 1: I couldn't mention in the you know, spoiler free version,
Speaker 1: and I hate to start at the end, but I
Speaker 1: didn't love the hint an introduction of the Joker. I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like, now that's a character you can't
Speaker 1: really touch one because Heath Ledger has already played him
Speaker 1: so well in the Dark Night, but too because I
Speaker 1: loved Joaquin Phoenix as a Joker and him in that
Speaker 1: role is just what I want to see now, and
Speaker 1: seeing a third or I guess this would be a
Speaker 1: fourth version because of Jared Leto, I wasn't into it.
Speaker 1: I felt like that took a little bit out of
Speaker 1: the movie at the end for me, so seeing them
Speaker 1: hint at that, and I don't know exactly what's going
Speaker 1: to get into the sequel to this, which they're saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the Riddler and the Joker breakout of
Speaker 1: Arkham and that's the next movie. But that's what kind
Speaker 1: of took a little bit away from me, as I
Speaker 1: didn't love the Joker in it. And the other thing
Speaker 1: that was a little bit weird for me watching this
Speaker 1: movie is I know it had to be greedier and
Speaker 1: completely separate itself from The Dark Knight because if it didn't,
Speaker 1: people would just say it ripped that off and it
Speaker 1: wasn't unique enough. And with it being now that grittier,
Speaker 1: darker version, there was something that lacked a little bit
Speaker 1: in the fight scenes that happened, you know, in Gotham
Speaker 1: that made me realize I was watching a movie and
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just a personal thing,
Speaker 1: but when I saw Batman fighting some of the thugs,
Speaker 1: I just felt for the first time that I was
Speaker 1: watching some dude in the costume being a vigilante and
Speaker 1: saw like how that would really play out in the
Speaker 1: real world. And it felt a little bit of a
Speaker 1: dumb idea to me that it took me a little
Speaker 1: bit out of the idea of Batman just being the
Speaker 1: super rich guy that did all these cool, amazing things
Speaker 1: and had all these gadgets, that just Batman being this
Speaker 1: dude that went out and played dress up, and I
Speaker 1: had that, you know, thought, for just a little bit
Speaker 1: of the movie that a little bit took me out of,
Speaker 1: you know, it being how I described it, being a masterpiece.
Speaker 1: So those are the two things that I didn't like.
Speaker 1: And again, I was going to rank this movie and
Speaker 1: be a lot harsher on it because I was expecting
Speaker 1: it to be that good. But now that I got
Speaker 1: what I didn't like out of the way, let's get
Speaker 1: into what I loved. And I think it was the
Speaker 1: fact that Robert Pattinson was so different as the Batman
Speaker 1: in a way that I wasn't expecting. I didn't really
Speaker 1: ever think of Batman being this really weird outcast before
Speaker 1: and having that idea really play out and done so
Speaker 1: well here, it just gives it a whole different feeling.
Speaker 1: It's like the movie I've been wanting to see and
Speaker 1: didn't know how it would get delivered. And with his
Speaker 1: true detective skills coming out in this movie, it just
Speaker 1: made it so fun to watch. And the Riddler's entire
Speaker 1: diabolical planning, this was so almost chilling and real like,
Speaker 1: resembled real life so much that at times it was
Speaker 1: a little bit scary, Like I don't think this movie
Speaker 1: is for everybody, because it gets a little bit so
Speaker 1: realistic that it makes you feel like in today's world,
Speaker 1: like it's a little bit dark. And that kind of
Speaker 1: comes back to in this movie how the Wayne family
Speaker 1: is actually flawed, and a point they get into is
Speaker 1: the whole story behind how his parents died was actually
Speaker 1: they were trying to cover up something, But then you
Speaker 1: find out on a much bigger scale they were actually
Speaker 1: trying to at the core do good. But in Riddler,
Speaker 1: trying to expose all these people and gotha them and
Speaker 1: show them for you know, the awful people, awful things
Speaker 1: they've done. They go after Bruce Wayne, and they go
Speaker 1: after Batman and him revealing all these things about people
Speaker 1: after he kills them, just a it's like this other
Speaker 1: big layer. It's like, oh man, this is a really
Speaker 1: intense villain, and it doesn't feel like you're watching just
Speaker 1: a normal comic book villain. This could be a real
Speaker 1: guy who's like sitting behind a computer and finding out
Speaker 1: all these things. He just feels like this hacker persona,
Speaker 1: which I know they based it a lot on the
Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer, but putting it in you know what would
Speaker 1: you know, as it just felt so realistic of like, man,
Speaker 1: this could actually happen. And yeah, just having that feeling
Speaker 1: and that idea of Bruce Wayne and his family, you know,
Speaker 1: having a dark past was something we hadn't seen before.
Speaker 1: And for some people it feels a little bit like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is this is Bruce Wayne, this is Batman.
Speaker 1: But it makes the ending that much more heroic. Before
Speaker 1: I get into more talking about the ending, I really
Speaker 1: even though it I didn't get taken out a little
Speaker 1: bit from some of the fight scenes because of that reason,
Speaker 1: My favorite part A couple of my favorite parts. One
Speaker 1: was the chase scene between Batman and Penguin. One of
Speaker 1: the greatest chasings I've ever seen, and it created this
Speaker 1: emotion of you really wanting to see Batman just pummel somebody.
Speaker 1: And what I think really great superhero movies do is
Speaker 1: they give you that, you know, that feeling of wanting
Speaker 1: them to take down the villain at different parts in
Speaker 1: the movie and not quite getting there, getting a little
Speaker 1: bit closer, but not quite getting there, and then when
Speaker 1: they actually do get the villain, it's so gratifying, and
Speaker 1: I think I really felt that in this chase scene.
Speaker 1: I kind of hoped that the Penguin would have had
Speaker 1: a bigger role throughout this entire movie. I thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna be a little bit more of the as
Speaker 1: the main villain, but the Riddler totally still the show here.
Speaker 1: Although I think what I do kind of see coming,
Speaker 1: especially going into the sequel of this is the Penguin
Speaker 1: growing strong, younger and stronger, and then becoming more of
Speaker 1: a force. You'd see a little bit more of, just
Speaker 1: like his introductory stages here. Feel a great villain. But
Speaker 1: I think what really set this movie apart was the
Speaker 1: ending when they finally capture the Riddler in kind of
Speaker 1: anti climatic way of his actual arrest, but the whole
Speaker 1: thing leading up to them, all the details of the
Speaker 1: way that the Riddler played Batman got him to do
Speaker 1: exactly what he wanted to do, landed him in prison,
Speaker 1: but it was such a mind game. And that scene
Speaker 1: at the asylum where the Riddler is in jail, Robert
Speaker 1: Pattinson as Batman is there, you know, interrogating him. That
Speaker 1: was my other favorite scene when the Riddler tells Batman,
Speaker 1: You're not as smart as I thought you were, which
Speaker 1: was a part that was in the trailer, And going
Speaker 1: back to the trailer, it was able to show these
Speaker 1: little moments that you thought were going to be bigger things,
Speaker 1: and the movie was a completely different story than I
Speaker 1: was expecting. So I love that I didn't give that
Speaker 1: away in the trailer, but with that line, it was
Speaker 1: so chilling and such a turning point in the movie
Speaker 1: to where you thought it was already over, it wasn't over.
Speaker 1: And the fact that the Riddler was able to play
Speaker 1: Batman was a truly great accomplishment and film. It was
Speaker 1: such a great twist and I'm just sad that I
Speaker 1: won't be able to experience that again and feel that
Speaker 1: same way. That's why I think the beauty and what
Speaker 1: would go against this Batman movie is once you've experienced
Speaker 1: all these twists in turns, you know what's coming, it
Speaker 1: may not make it that much of a rewatchrble movie,
Speaker 1: which I'm starting to consider if I should really even
Speaker 1: put into consideration with thinking how good a movie is.
Speaker 1: Some movies are only meant to be that exciting one time.
Speaker 1: But I love that scene and what that scene sets
Speaker 1: up is Batman truly saving the city of Gotham, which
Speaker 1: we've seen time and time again the theme of every
Speaker 1: Batman movie he tries to save the city. But here
Speaker 1: you have this grittier and more fleshed out version of
Speaker 1: Batman to where he now has a whole, entirely different
Speaker 1: reason why he's fighting, why he's trying to do good.
Speaker 1: He's trying to prove to people that the Wayne name
Speaker 1: isn't disgraced while saving the people of Gotham at the
Speaker 1: same time and proving that he isn't as bad as
Speaker 1: a person or a bad person at all. That the
Speaker 1: Driddlers trying to play him out to be, and that
Speaker 1: scene when all the bombs in the vans start to
Speaker 1: go off around Gotham City, the entire city starts to
Speaker 1: get flooded and the Batman has to spring into action
Speaker 1: was quite utterly amazing. And again it goes back to
Speaker 1: it being so real and so life like that the
Speaker 1: entire Riddler scheme was him recruiting people online to basically
Speaker 1: set up this you know, slaughtering of people, getting them
Speaker 1: all joined at one place and then essentially picking them off.
Speaker 1: I felt that was pretty scary to portray in a movie,
Speaker 1: especially in today's world. I felt a little bit scared
Speaker 1: by that, and I like dark twist and stuff, but
Speaker 1: even to me, I was like, I can't believe, like
Speaker 1: this is the direction they're going. But the reason it
Speaker 1: worked is because Batman was there to save the day,
Speaker 1: and at this point in the movie, I loved seeing
Speaker 1: him so broken down physically and mentally, and the moment
Speaker 1: of satisfaction to where he was able to beat that
Speaker 1: one guy to a bloody poll after you know, stabbing
Speaker 1: himself and reviving himself was so gratifying to watch. And
Speaker 1: that's the moment I love and superhero movies in any
Speaker 1: movie where they are finally able to overcome everything and
Speaker 1: have that big Hurrah moment. But the difference in this
Speaker 1: movie then Marvel movies is in Marvel movies, that's a
Speaker 1: lot more of like a cheering you know, you see
Speaker 1: those reaction videos, everybody going crazy in the theater. This
Speaker 1: was almost just the more internal like brought me joy,
Speaker 1: but you're not, So it didn't feel like I was
Speaker 1: watching a supporting event like I did when I watched
Speaker 1: Spider Man you know, No Way Home. Like I I
Speaker 1: yelled during No Way Home, I didn't feel the need
Speaker 1: to yell during Batman because it just has a whole
Speaker 1: different feeling to it. And I think Spider Man No
Speaker 1: Way Home was very much playing onto fans like those
Speaker 1: Those movies just serve fans like me so well. But
Speaker 1: what the Batman did was serve any level of movie
Speaker 1: fan if you're into dark stuff like this. But that
Speaker 1: scene where he saves the day, it was so different
Speaker 1: because what happens afterwards, It's something I've never seen in
Speaker 1: a Batman movie. He goes on to immediately start saving people.
Speaker 1: And the reason that's important is because all the other
Speaker 1: times of every portrayal of Batman really any superhero. They
Speaker 1: do all these things to stop the villain, They make
Speaker 1: all this collateral damage to quote unquote save the city,
Speaker 1: but in that process, they don't really help people. They
Speaker 1: don't really seem like people doing those little small things.
Speaker 1: And while they save people from maybe you know, the
Speaker 1: entire city baby dying, they don't really hop into action
Speaker 1: to do the little things. They're not there for the cleanup.
Speaker 1: You don't see the Avengers out there picking up or
Speaker 1: extinguishing all the buildings they set on fire. But in
Speaker 1: this moment, you see Batman, after he just did one
Speaker 1: heroic thing after another, immediately going in and starting to
Speaker 1: rest you people. And he wasn't even a superhero in
Speaker 1: that moment. He wasn't even Batman. He was like a
Speaker 1: first responder. He was out there, you know, in his
Speaker 1: Batman suit, but covered in mud, pulling people from the wreckage,
Speaker 1: getting people out, helping kids on stretchers, you know, getting
Speaker 1: them rescued, and being there to pick up the pieces.
Speaker 1: And that was something I've never really seen in any superhero,
Speaker 1: just be a real person trying to do something good.
Speaker 1: While he is this vigilante, he's also there just to help.
Speaker 1: And after all this destruction of Gotham. There's no big
Speaker 1: sunshiny day. Right after that final scene, it actually talks
Speaker 1: about them, you know, having to live with the effects
Speaker 1: of like you know, it took weeks or months even
Speaker 1: to recover from this. They referenced the National Guard coming in.
Speaker 1: So it really felt like Gotham was actually a real
Speaker 1: city and all these things were happening for a reason
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just in some big fantasy world. It
Speaker 1: just felt yeah, more realistic in that sense. And the
Speaker 1: other part is that catwoman in this was the smartest
Speaker 1: person to be, one of the only people to be like,
Speaker 1: you must be rich. The way you're talking, in the
Speaker 1: way you're saying these things, you must have grown up rich.
Speaker 1: The only person who's ever kind of put that thing
Speaker 1: together of like, well, there's this guy who runs around
Speaker 1: this town with all these cool expensive gadgets, how is
Speaker 1: he able to do this, Well, he must be a billionaire, Like,
Speaker 1: no one never puts that together that Bruce Wayne, one
Speaker 1: of the richest people in Gotham, couldn't be Batman. So
Speaker 1: I love that aspect too. I love the explosions. I
Speaker 1: love the greediness and the realness of all those fighting
Speaker 1: and chase scenes, and I love that feeling it gave
Speaker 1: me once he finally was able to win and prove himself.
Speaker 1: So that is it. My full spoiler review of The
Speaker 1: Batman and I talked about a little bit earlier, but
Speaker 1: it looks like there will be a sequel going into
Speaker 1: this in the same world of the Riddler escaping, possibly
Speaker 1: teaming up with the Joker. I'm excited to see Robert
Speaker 1: Pattinson in another movie. I would love to see them
Speaker 1: bring in other villains again. I don't love the reintroduction
Speaker 1: of a different Joker, but what I've heard from director
Speaker 1: Matt Reeves is he will have a different spin on
Speaker 1: the Joker. He's not going to have an origin story
Speaker 1: of a guy who was dropped into acid. I think,
Speaker 1: like what Keen Phoenix is Joker. He will just be
Speaker 1: utterly disturbed individual and I kind of think that will
Speaker 1: play up nicely into countering The Batman. So there you go.
Speaker 1: There's my full spoiler review. I hope you have watched
Speaker 1: and enjoyed The Batman as much as I did.