1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: If you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: It's all about the T shirt. The T shirt is everything. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: What does it mean? We'll explain in a second. Yes, 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: and once again going to my deep reservoir of film history, 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: Mike Harmon alongside Chris Blake. No Jason Smith tonight or 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 3: this week he's off on vacation. If you have any 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: culinary suggestions in the greater Detroit area at how about 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: a Fresca And then for the world at large at 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: plainshow at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports Radio, because we 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: need to know of these things as we traverse and 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: get ready for another season of Lions football. David Montgomery 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: with some big comments we'll get to a little bit 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: later on in the show, because we gotta get some 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: NFL predictive kind of things in here. Chris Blank As 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: we roll through seventh inning stretch here in Los Angeles, 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: Dodgers now four to one lead over Minnesota. Go back 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: to that leadoff home run from Buxton. It's been all 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: Dodgers to run homer for Otani, followed by two solo 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: Will Smith shots as we go into the bottom of 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: the seventh. 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: Hmmm, feeling like you're adding a little bit more to 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,919 Speaker 4: that lead in the west right now, let's go. 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: Look at you getting all excitable, right It's still very 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: still got a couple more innings of bullpens to go. 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: That's what I was telling Frostburg during the break, like, 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: did I let this get to the bullpenper go? Just 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: just keep it within three or four ruds, it would 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: be good to go. 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 3: Well, now it goes out to a slam as pahz 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: the goat in all the wrong ways over the weekend, 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: he hits his so home run, his eighteenth of the year. 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: There we go, and it's now a five to one Dodger. 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: Lee spoke that into existence, the one oh five and 41 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: a half mile per hour exit velocity for you. 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: They're playing love it. I like that, kid. I don't 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 4: know what this future looks like. I don't know if 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 4: he's holding down a spot until these young guns get 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: ready to jump up to the show. But I like 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: him even if he can't see a line and drive 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: to centerfield. 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: Well that's the beauty and horror of the Dodgers, because 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: you're like, they have these prospects, deal them, send them away, 50 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: bring in schemes, bring in whatever power arm you need. Nope, Nope, 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: that's not how we do things around here. We're not 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: giving away the best guys. Now, the quote I threw 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: out there, it's all about the T shirt. Remember the 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: two thousand classic, almost famous of the young journalist on 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: the road with the rock band. Uh as they roll 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: through and it becomes a fight within the band about 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: the obscuring of the rest of the band members behind 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: the lead guitarists. Yeah, that's right. And so when we 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: talk about the T shirt, well, the w NBA All 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: Star Weekend has now been symbolically reduced down to a 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 3: T shirt. Pay us what you owe us. Kelsey Plumb 62 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: and others, in talking about the decision to wear set 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: apparel in the warm ups, said well, there was nobody 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: there for Team Clark, So I appreciate the pettiness to 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: a degree to a degree, right, And that's been the 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: story of the WNBA for the last couple of years. 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: Plenty of memes flowing out of it, and and some 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: of it is just snark, Like we talk about here 69 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: the way we traverse the world of sports talk and 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: have our own snarky opinions and dismissive attitudes towards certain 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 3: things that maybe not as my daughter would say when 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: we were first introducing different food, she'd look at you 73 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 3: and say, not my favorite. Okay, So you know, maybe 74 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: it didn't hit the road quite as frequently for Kelsey 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: Plumb and for others. They've taken every chance they have 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: to say, hey, we were here, we're stars in our 77 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: own right. It's not all about Caitlin Clark. We can 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: do things without her affecting it. Although when we talk 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: about the current state of affairs and what were they 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: talking about, well, the CBA, right, they had a big 81 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: pow wow, forty ish strong showing up to hear proposals 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: and have discussions about the state of the union, Chris 83 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: coming away with nothing substantive from several players seemingly dejected 84 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: by the fact that they didn't make any strides towards 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: a new labor agreement that'll expire in October. Now you 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: got thirteen teams and eventually expanding towards eighteen. By twenty thirty, 87 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: we saw the Valkyries come in at a big valuation, 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: at a big price. We look at what the salary 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: cap is, very widely distributed as you go through, looking 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: at one point five million dollars per team, the floor 91 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: is one point two six million thus far, and this 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: is why players are playing overseas. The pay us what 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: you owe us. We've watched revenues increase markedly. They've got 94 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: a new two billion dollar TV deal that has been 95 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: brokered amongst several purveyors that'll be part of that package 96 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 3: going forward. But as of now, the players receive nine 97 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: percent of revenue. And I see a lot of comparisons 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: one to one with other leagues, and immediately it becomes 99 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: a well, they've lost so much money. No, it's a 100 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: percentage of revenue, right that the other players get. When 101 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 3: we talk about CBAS, it's not a percentage of profit 102 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: that's brokered in. And obviously we talk about the WNBA 103 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: and trying to guesstimate over the last two decades, the 104 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 3: annual loss that has been incurred by the NBA and 105 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: other backers. But we're in a different world, right, You've 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: got different the apparel companies, the makeup companies, all that, 107 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: the iHeart Women's Sports channel, they've got fifteen shows in 108 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: a year, right, and a bunch of founding partners there. 109 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: And you talk about all these other you know, the 110 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: new shoe deals, new apparel deals. I did like that. 111 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark got snarky in her own right, saying, hey, 112 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: thanks for the Nike ad because it was a half 113 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 3: a swoosh behind one of the photos that Kelsey Plumb 114 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: had on one of the red carpet events. So that 115 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: was good. All snark for snark, little slap fighting in that. 116 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: But you're talking about a two billion dollar TV deal 117 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: that's been signed. Money is coming and you're getting in advancement. 118 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 3: Now what percentage over the nine percent needs to come 119 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: into play? I don't know, but certainly we're looking where 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: they're going, and not necessarily, as far as I'm aware, 121 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: do they have to make restitution for past if at all? 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: Right? I wonder too, because you mentioned the new franchise, 123 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: I mean, Mark Davis and the Ace is going back 124 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: a little bit too. I wonder how much of you know, 125 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: seeing the nine percent drove them to want to be 126 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: a part of this say hey, okay, this this is 127 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: a pretty good deal. And again you've made this point 128 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: that so many people have not because everyone wants to 129 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: be outraged. I'm not gonna lie to you. I thought 130 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: the short the shirts were kind of ill timed, just 131 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 4: because no one really understands the TV deal right that's 132 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: coming up for them, and everyone sees them look treating 133 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: Caitlin Clark like, oh well, this thing has been this 134 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: this famous and this big without here not necessarily, but 135 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: you're one of the first people that I've heard that 136 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: just points out, hey, bottom line, they got a new 137 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: TV deal that is gonna bring them in significantly more money. 138 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: And what led to us finally changing the way that 139 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: we had the pay structure in college sports, massive TV 140 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: deals that the student athletes weren't sharing, of course, limiting 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: their right to make money. It's a little different story, 142 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 4: not the best comparison, but Mike, I'm here to tell you, 143 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: I I find I find myself in a position where 144 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: I I don't have a problem with the WNBA. I mean, 145 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: so many people act outraged by this, Hey, let them, 146 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: Let them do what they want. Did it take away 147 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: from your All Star viewing experience? 148 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: No? 149 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: Might have been short sighted from them if you even 150 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 4: watch the All Star Game. Sure, but this is the 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: attack that they're going with. They're trying to be more aggressive. 152 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: Let's see if it works. That's oh gosh, why did 153 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: I just forget the line from Dodgeball with a Jason 154 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: Bateman's character. The interest is old strategy. That's a bold strategy, Cotton. 155 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: We'll see how it works out. But they feel like 156 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: with the investment that's been made in yeah, the NBA, 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 4: the NBA hasn't. No one's made money off this league 158 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: outside of certain teams in their market. But that's again, 159 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 4: that's not the point in this whole thing. We all 160 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: were in some way, shape or form for a company. 161 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: This probably not turning a massive profit, but yet there's 162 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: that investment in personnel and in wanting to make sure 163 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: that you do keep the old, the old butter shirt 164 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: in the clock running if you will. And I think 165 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna up getting a pretty nice little 166 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: chunk out of this. Might not be what they want, 167 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: might not be what they deserve. 168 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: I don't. 169 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: I'm not even in that world, but I do think 170 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: that it's something that we need to quit being just 171 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: so damn negative about. I mean, they wore the shirt 172 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 4: I was. I was listening getting ready for I was 173 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: feeling in for Bernie, and you would have thought that 174 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 4: some of these some of these women had personally assaulted 175 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 4: people that I was listening to on the air. It's like, 176 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, how dare they It's like, well, I mean, 177 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: they're just trying to make a point. It's labor strife. 178 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: It's what we deal with on a day and a 179 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: day on basis. I don't know how you feel about it, Mike, 180 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 4: but you know, I hope that they get what they 181 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 4: want to continue to play basketball. But my mind is 182 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: so fired up about football, and my might, Mike, just 183 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: head is so much in college football. I saw that. 184 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: I was like, huh, well, good for them, all right, 185 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: let's move on here. It's just it doesn't really register 186 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: with me as something that I'm losing my mind over 187 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: like many are. 188 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just enjoy the business side of it and 189 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: trying to parse out between what is pettiness right the 190 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: plumb stuff at the podium of Hey we did this 191 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: without Caitlin Clark. Ahaha. And you go back and you 192 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: look at the revenue growth, which was already in place 193 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: for a couple of years before Caitlyn Clark arrived, but 194 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: gets there's no doubt it's been taken too. But that's 195 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: the point, is right. The last year when you start 196 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 3: talking about advertising rates, you talk about how many of 197 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: the network games feature the fever, which is this is 198 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: the worst case scenario, all right, Steve laid it out, 199 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: and she's missing her twelfth game tomorrow, so yes, while 200 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: she's cheerleading, and even if you got a boost in 201 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: ratings for some portion of the three Point Contest and 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: probably the All Star Game to a degree, yeah, she 203 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: was on there and she's she's got a bit of 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: smart ass to her. So that's always of added value, 205 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: certainly to a broadcast and going to bring folks in 206 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: the curiosity you have more people tuned in, which means 207 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: if you're going to make a statement and force the 208 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: subject into folks ears, they're probably not gonna click on 209 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: an article link. But why are they wearing these shirts? 210 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: What does it mean the broadcast has to address it? 211 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: Or if you go online you're gonna type in what 212 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 3: does this line mean? And it's gonna give you a 213 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: quick synopsis from the AI generator about the labor negotiations 214 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: that are going on, and you get a primer. You 215 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: either in or you're out, and if you move on, great. 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: It's the old Kevin Durant line that we run on 217 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: the show all the time, one of the greatest contributions. 218 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: He's a Hall of Famer and a world class guy. 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: He traverses in the trading card world, so we're kindred 220 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: spirits there. But the line he used many years ago 221 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: quote if you don't like it, don't watch unquote. But 222 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: it still affects and it's still part of our larger 223 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: sports business, and to ignore it completely, to me is 224 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: just foolhardy by some of our compatriots in this sport. 225 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 4: Well, what I'm just gonna say, some educate learn me. 226 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 4: So what is a good deal for them? What is 227 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: it in your like Nerdy in the weeds opinion of 228 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 4: what's going to be a fair deal for them and 229 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: a good deal for the WNBS. 230 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: Well, I think as you go through you try to 231 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: figure out where between that nine percent and the the 232 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: fifty that you have on the other side. You know, 233 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: you have to account for some of the losses in 234 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: the past. I think some folks would love to get 235 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: some of those initial startup funds back, But I don't 236 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 3: know what those contracts look like. I don't think any 237 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: of us do. Right, were they supposed to get paid 238 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: back once we start hitting you know, the proverbial in 239 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: the black. I don't know. But the Valkyrie's valuation was 240 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: half a billion dollars, right, So we're talking substantive monies 241 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: that are now flowing and as you add more franchises, 242 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: that means you continue you're continuing this growth. To say 243 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: we get twenty percent or twenty five percent, even to double, 244 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: it means that your top players are now making a 245 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: half a million dollar against revenues that are now in 246 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: excess of based on that new TV deal. And that's 247 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: not including ticket sales and everything else. I mean, that's 248 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars a year, right, fuzzy math two 249 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: billion plus divided by ten. I think we can do 250 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: that one. So you know, now you're talking about some 251 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: real substantive revenue that that's flowing in just from the 252 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: TV side of thing, say nothing of all the other 253 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: corporate sponsors that it would stand to reason that you 254 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 3: could you can double that and not bat and eye 255 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: based on the growth of the league. Again, what you 256 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: have to pay for in arrears, I'm not privy to that. 257 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't think any of us are, or if it's 258 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: been disseminated, I don't know it. But but all of 259 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: that to say, you know, you're in a good place 260 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: in a growing industry, which means you know, if you're 261 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: the WNBA and and the leadership and the ownership groups, 262 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: you're looking around going you know, we're still we're still 263 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: just getting into hyper growth at this point. 264 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 4: And then just one one final thought, and I know 265 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: we're up against it. But you said that the losses 266 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: don't matter. Why Why is that? Why would the forty 267 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: mil or the thirty mil that they've lost. Why is 268 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 4: that irrelevant for dummies like me in this conversation. So 269 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think it is. But I 270 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: question how much of the contracts are hey we need 271 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 4: to get back are whatever that investment was right? If 272 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: it was the NBA, right, is it just something you 273 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: funded as part of a good will or was there 274 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: a business park attached in terms of repayment? Right, Hey, 275 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm your angel investor. But I get ten percent of 276 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: dollar one. You know, you know what I mean, Like, 277 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know what those deals are, and 278 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: I don't think that's ever been laid out. We didn't 279 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: just give you all this money for the league. We 280 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: want there's money. 281 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: Something in return, you know, if it actually does turn 282 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: a profit, do we get it back? Right? I was watching, 283 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: you know, because I'm a nerd the Gilded Age HBO. 284 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: You know, one of my many subscriptions, I gotta get 285 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: my money's worth. Guy invented a claw, but to order 286 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: to put in for the patent, he needed to get 287 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: everybody to give him a buck or two. He didn't 288 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: have the dollars. So now that it's gotten paid out, 289 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: now everybody's starting to come, well, what percentage do I get? Well, 290 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: they never disgusted it, so you can already see it coming, 291 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: these seeds of discontent. Well, I want some of that 292 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: catch that he got for his clock bat for selling 293 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: it off. Same thing here, who put in the most money, 294 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: who's got the most skin in the game? And do 295 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: they get paid paid off off the back end off 296 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: of what in arrears? Or is it just Hey, looking forward, 297 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: we all feast on what's to come. That's the curious thing, 298 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: and if Adam Silver would give us an answer on that, 299 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: I'd be really curious. 300 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: There you go, because there's always a catch, there's always well. 301 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: That's just it. What's behind door number two at Plank Show, 302 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: where you find Chris buy me over at Swollen do Hey. 303 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: Right after the show, the podcast goes up. 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Well, we already talked about Jerry Jones. 312 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: Another owner has some labor issues of his own that 313 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: he needs to resolve, and he might have to remove 314 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: his foot from his mouth. First, we'll tell you who 315 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: that is and what that's all about. 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You see, we're having so much fun 327 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 6: in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly, 328 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 6: because this guy is over promising things we never have 329 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 6: time for. 330 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you blubber list me. 331 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 3: Well, you know what it's called over promise. 332 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 5: You should be good at it because you've been over 333 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: promising women for years. 334 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 6: Well, it's a Covino and Rich after show, and we 335 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 6: want you to be a part of it. We're gonna 336 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 6: be talking sports, of course, but we're also gonna talk 337 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 6: life and relationships. 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Listen Over Promised 346 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 6: with Covino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 347 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts. 348 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: Welcome back Jason Smith Show with Me by Carmenhi from 349 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio Studios. No Jason Smith tonight in 350 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: his steat are guy Chris Blank here on weekend Sunday Night, 351 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: eight o'clock Pacific alongside our guy Arnie Spaniard, the sticking Genius. 352 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 3: He'll join me on Friday, and after Arnie and I 353 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: battle for four hours, you'll hear The Plank Show eleven 354 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: pm Pacific, one o'clock Central Times, midnight Mountain Time. 355 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: I really like whenever you use the Pacific time zone. 356 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: It makes it seem so much more bearable and doable. 357 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 4: What's the week like? I know Dan's in a couple 358 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: of nights, right, Dan Bayer? Yeah, we got. 359 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: Jared Smith tomorrow. So we'll get into some futures and 360 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: some of those things as you start to go into 361 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: your fantasy drafts and start looking at some over unders, 362 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: as well as the general sports World Buyer Wednesday and Thursday, 363 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: and then Arnie on Friday. 364 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 4: And then Jason Backed a week from today. 365 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: In theory, if he comes back from Detroit, we'll see. 366 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: If not, maybe all of stage to Coo by head. 367 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 3: It'll just full on be the Mike Harmon Show. We'll 368 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: have more heavy metal music. Ty Shit will take on 369 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: a more prominent role as the last couple of weeks 370 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: he has really amped up his sports trivia knowledge. 371 00:18:58,560 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: Stepping up in the world there you go. 372 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: And then he got Frostburg who's just over the moon 373 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: with the wonderful world of Charger Football, and the Dodgers 374 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: are winning tonight. Yeah makes all Well, it's our home 375 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: run fest. I mean every run in this game has 376 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: been scored via the home run from Buxton's home run, 377 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: then Otani couple for Will Smith, and then Andy Potts. 378 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, we get a lot of love going on 379 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 3: here as we watch deep into the night here on 380 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: a Monday. But we talked to earlier Jerry Jones and 381 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: labor issues. See it's labor in unions is what we're 382 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: talking about a lot here on the show. Between the 383 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: w NBA conversation from earlier in the hour and we 384 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: talked with the about the Jerry Jones situation, Micah Parsons, 385 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: and now we go over to the curious case that 386 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: is the Cincinnati Bengals, where we know frugality has long 387 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: been associated with this franchise, as much as we love 388 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: the uniforms, going back to the days of Ken Anderson, 389 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: Boomer Assias, and Ikey Woods, all the way through to 390 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: our chad Ocho Cinco's TJ Huschmanzato our teammate here on 391 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, and so on. Joe Burrow and company 392 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: now dealing with it. Joe Burrow in the news for 393 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: some other things. You know, the theft ring has now 394 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: had at least one person caught. He said it was 395 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 3: going to keep him from getting that batmobile. So I 396 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: need this rectified and remedied as fast as I can. 397 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: But we've got personnel issues as well, because Shamar Stewart, 398 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: first round draft pick, has yet to sign his deal, 399 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: and there's been a continued fight over language in this contract. 400 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: Walter Nolan signed his four year deal picked sixteen with 401 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: the Cardinals going back on June tenth. Gray Zabel signed 402 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: his on May twelfth. Meanwhile, Shamar Stewart still in the 403 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: offing as well as Trey hendrickson pass rusher, where we've 404 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: seen TJ. Watt and others get their deals. But Duke 405 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: Tobin had his statement at the media lunch and saying hey, 406 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: we need to get him in here. His Stewart's agent 407 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: fire back saying, well, Duke Tobin's had no involvement in 408 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 3: any of the talks that we've had. And then Mike 409 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: Brown said, hey, Jerry Jones, you had your take on 410 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: labor impass and guaranteed moneys, here's mine. 411 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 7: Does this one feel unique? This one is surprising. I 412 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 7: hesitate to get into the detail, but basically it turns 413 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 7: on whether out years are guaranteed if he gets involved 414 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 7: in conduct detrimental to football? 415 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 4: Well, what does that mean? 416 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 7: Detrimental to football? In recent years has been violence to women. 417 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 7: That's about the one that comes to mine. There are 418 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 7: others probably, but that's the one that I think, Well, 419 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 7: if we get a player who gets involved in something 420 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 7: like that or does something that is just unacceptable, guess 421 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 7: what I want to pay him. I really don't. If 422 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 7: he's sitting in jail, I don't think I ought to 423 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 7: be paying him. And so we say that if he 424 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 7: got involved in conduct detrimental, we'd have the right to 425 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 7: terminate the guaranteed part. 426 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: So there there it is, he he said, he went, 427 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: he went and enumerated right. Jerry Jones went the he 428 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: could get hit by a bus and not be available 429 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: to us, and Mike Brown went, uh, full into circumstances, 430 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: Uh whereby you know we we he said, the what 431 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: would be the quiet part? I guess out loud in 432 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: terms of those negotiations of what would make him unavailable? 433 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: Uh to the he only mentioned one crime. 434 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: I mean well, I mean he went to he went 435 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 3: to the one that has been most prevalent I guess 436 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. So he did that. So 437 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: you've got that, and now it's just the the question of, 438 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: you know, whether you take offense to that or just 439 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: take it down to brass tacks. As he's trying to 440 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: talk about guarantees and avoiding out years, whether it's just 441 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: the year in which the offense occurred, which I guess 442 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: is part of the argument being had with the agent 443 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: versus being able to avoid out the contract for future years. 444 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: And as the NFL goes through its labor issues, we've 445 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: had peace, certainly, but with the union issues swirling in 446 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: the background. Do we necessarily know that that continues? Mike 447 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: Brown certainly know. How should we say spring chicken in 448 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 3: all of this? When you talk about he and Jerry Jones, 449 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: they've been around this game and have run their squads. 450 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: We know about I said, frugality, being kind cheap is 451 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: something that's been brought up often. And now he fights 452 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: back saying, well, we paid our wide receivers, we paid 453 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, leave me alone. That doesn't apply to us anymore. 454 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: But it's that converse which is uncomfortable. There's no question 455 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: about it in terms of what would keep a player 456 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: off the field, and he enumerated. Instead of just saying, 457 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: you know, things that would preclude their involvement and leaving 458 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: it as a nebulus, he decided to go into specificity 459 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: about those. And I guess if you want to take offense, 460 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: there's plenty on the bone there. 461 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 4: Sure, I guess My question And what I haven't been 462 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: able to find out is this a Cincinnati Bengals specific 463 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: thing or does every team have this? And everyone but 464 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: Shamar Stewart is good with it. 465 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 3: As best I've been able to ascertain, it's it's fairly 466 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: standard biler plate language, and now it becomes the wealth 467 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 3: the specificity of trying to pull it out right, right, 468 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: I guess and say, well, we're going to avoid this 469 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: versus going case to case and you know, the larger 470 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 3: league process, because we've got plenty of cases that are 471 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 3: still you know, out in trying to figure out how 472 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: they're going to be judicated by Goodell and Company going 473 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 3: to Rashi Rice, amongst others, for other infractions not enumerated 474 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: by Mike Brown. 475 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 4: I guess that's my whole confusion. We had a we 476 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: had something very similar to this a couple of years ago. 477 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: But if you want to fight over anything, I guess 478 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: this clause is one that I'm like, okay, just stay 479 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: out of trouble, right, you don't have to worry about it. 480 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 4: If it's injuries, and I get it right, I get 481 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: going to the mattresses over it and saying, hey, I 482 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: can't help if I get injured or not, because I'm 483 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: gonna be going all out for your team. Mike Harmen, 484 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: It's just if this is if this is not just 485 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 4: a specific thing that the Bengals are sliding it, and 486 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 4: this is a league white thing, it seems odd to 487 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: fight it because I think of all the crazy things 488 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 4: from that Caleb Williams story. We had a couple weeks 489 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: about a couple months ago at the very fight the 490 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: slotting system. If you want, I mean fight how Oh well, 491 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 4: there's not really a negotiation anymore. Here's what you're gonna 492 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 4: make this fight seems odd to me. By the way, 493 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: did you catch the side of this we're college where 494 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: Texas A and him fans started trying to make it 495 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 4: seem like Stuart was going to come. 496 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: Back to A and M No, that was certainly a 497 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: nice little side. Can't do that not happening, But yeah, 498 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 3: I was. Now, we've eradicated a lot of rules. I 499 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: know that one has not been not been torn asunder 500 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 3: to where that opportunity would be open. But yeah, we're 501 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: talking about I've seen baseball contracts in the past. I 502 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: remember one year I was helping to teach a Baseball 503 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: and American history as an extended extension course for night 504 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: school at Northwestern when I was there working in there, 505 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 3: I was an administrator of financial aid and Addisons for 506 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: a couple of years before I got into this whole 507 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: loudmouth media thing. But we went we took a tour 508 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: of Wrigley Field, and we sat down with some of 509 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 3: the front office folks. You had some of the broadcasters 510 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: pop by Harry Carey being propped up by a couple 511 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: of attractive younger women because he wouldn't reuse a cane 512 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 3: and he wouldn't use a walker, so he used to 513 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: twenty something women to get from the limousine to the 514 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: elevator to get up into the But either way, they 515 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: handed us a contract. They're like, oh, here's several pages 516 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: of things they can't do, and it's all enumerated, right, 517 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: but there's always, you know, stuff you don't think of 518 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 3: that would fall under the guys. But we got about 519 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: two pages into the contract and anybody want to guess 520 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: who this is? I'm like, oh, I know, And I 521 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: said the name, and the guy looked at me. 522 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: Goes, why do you know that? 523 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: Like, well, this clause and this clause right here are 524 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: pretty specific to what this player has been known to 525 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: do in his off seasons. So coming to the Cubs, 526 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: they made it clearer to enumerate that those activities were 527 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: to cease if he wanted to collect their paychecks, lest 528 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 3: he put himself in harm. But we certainly have that 529 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: with NFL deals as well, where but you can only 530 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: enumerate so many things, so you want to have more 531 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: boilerplate language. But as a team, you want to protect 532 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 3: yourself as well. Right if things are going to be avoided, 533 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 3: do you want Okay, it's only avoided for this year, 534 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: but you still have to pay out years Hence where 535 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: maybe that player wasn't available year one and then comes 536 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: back year two and can't perform anywhere near that level. 537 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: Should you be on the hook for that guaranteed money? 538 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: You might think the wave Brown phrased it, and maybe 539 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 3: you can take if you want to go down the 540 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: road in terms of race as I know some have done, 541 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: and you can do it. But I don't think if 542 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: you're running a business, saying hey, I don't want to 543 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 3: pay out money if the guy's unable to perform for 544 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 3: the team is unreasonable as much as again the specificity 545 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: of his language here might be problematic to you. 546 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and oh, by the way, you know this is 547 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: a guy in schmar Stewart that you bring in that 548 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: you think is gonna help ease maybe if you can't 549 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: keep Trey Hendrickson. Now he's not there and you still 550 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: got Trey Hendrickson. That's gonna be hold out whenever Camp 551 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: gets rolling for the Bengals. So kind of an out 552 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 4: and out disaster on that front. But I get it. 553 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: I understand on both sides why they're doing what they're doing. 554 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 3: I gotta say this, though, Chris, is that you know, 555 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: going back to mock drafts, for whatever those are worth. 556 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: I did have Stuart going seventeenth to the Bengals, so 557 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: I got that one right. So he eventually needs to 558 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: show up to prove me right. Otherwise I don't get 559 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: credit for the square. He'll go back in the draft 560 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: and then you'll probably project where he's going to go 561 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: next year. Look at you, I got I got eight right. 562 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: I usually get between eight and ten right. 563 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: He bad so bad. 564 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: I'll take it from my throwing darts at a board 565 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: that I do. 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Thanks for being part of our 576 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: extended family here at Fox Sports Radio. Chris and I 577 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: and our team here, we certainly do appreciate it. We 578 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: know you have plenty of audio and video choices out 579 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: there that you can enumerate and parse through. So whatever 580 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: time you spend with us at Fox Sports Radio, our show, 581 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: or the others on the network, we do appreciate it. Now, 582 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: let's take a turn over to the news desk and 583 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: get an update on this Dodger game and everything going 584 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: on in our sporting universe with our guys. Steve Disager. 585 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, La up in the nine to five to one 586 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 8: over the Twins, you were talking about that Bengals story, 587 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 8: and yes, apparently in other contracts with other teams this 588 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 8: language to possibly void future guarantees existed. The thing is, 589 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 8: and this was Mike Florio's point, Pro Football took. The 590 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 8: Bengals themselves are trying to enforce it brand new for 591 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 8: the first time on someone and this first round or 592 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 8: doesn't want to be the guinea pig for that, thank you. 593 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 8: And the fact is they had just recently two big 594 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 8: contracts signed by wide receivers Chase and Higgins, and use 595 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 8: the old language in those and now we're trying to 596 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 8: use the new language for possible future voice on this 597 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 8: guy who yes Sjamar Stewart is still unsigned. Green Bay 598 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 8: gave tackle Zach tom a four year extension. Cowboys pass 599 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 8: rusher Micah Parsons reported to training camp. He wants an 600 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 8: extension workout start Tuesday. By the way, most NFL teams 601 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 8: will have their veterans report to training camp by Tuesday. 602 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 8: Titans quarterback Will Levis will have shoulder surgery next week. 603 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 8: He's out for the year. Tennessee just drafted quarterback cam Ward. 604 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 4: Number one overall. 605 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 8: One out top of the ninth inning at Dodger Stadium. Shortly, 606 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 8: perhaps everything will be final in the Majors. Dodgers are 607 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 8: up five to one on Minnesota. They're asking Tanner Scott 608 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 8: to get the last four outs in this Gunner he 609 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 8: did get an out on a line drive to end 610 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 8: the eighth. Right now it's first and second one out 611 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 8: against the Twins in the ninth show, Hey Otani pitched 612 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 8: three innings, and then Dustin May threw one hundred pitches 613 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 8: in relief. Tonight, four and two thirds scoreless will Smith 614 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 8: with two solo homers. Otani did allow a leoff homer 615 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 8: to the Twins their only tally tonight, but then Otani 616 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 8: hit a two run homer in the bottom of the first, 617 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 8: his thirty fifth of the year. Aohenne O Suarez and 618 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 8: Arizona hit his thirty sixth of the season, but Houston 619 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 8: beat Arizona six to three. The lost to Zach Gallon 620 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 8: another poor start six plus innings, six runs allowed. The 621 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 8: Milwaukee Brewers have the best record in Major League Baseball 622 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 8: sixty and forty. Now that the Tigers have gone in 623 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 8: the tank the last week or two, Milwaukee has won 624 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 8: eleven in a row. They got a six to nothing 625 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 8: win at Seattle tonight. Brandon Woodriff, back from injury, got 626 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 8: the win, going six innings, so the Brewers lead the 627 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 8: Cubs by one game in the NL Central Cubs lost 628 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 8: at home twelve to four to Kansas City. The record 629 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 8: for the Brewers franchise as far as longest winning streak 630 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 8: goes back to nineteen eighty seven, when they started a 631 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 8: season thirteen to zero. The last time the Brewers had 632 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 8: the best record in Major League Baseball this late in 633 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 8: a season was nineteen eighty two, again sixty and forty 634 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 8: eleven straight wins. Toronto leads the AL East by four 635 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 8: games over the Yankees, and Boston is six back. Toronto 636 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 8: beat the Yanks head to head, four to one, and 637 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 8: Boston was beaten on a tenth inning catcher's interference. Philadelphia 638 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 8: three to two over the Red Sox to the Phillies 639 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 8: first in the NL East, still a half game over 640 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 8: the Mets, who came back to beat the Angels seven 641 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 8: to five. Pittsburgh and Paul Skens beat Detroit and Jack 642 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 8: Flaherty three nothing. The Tigers had lost six straight until 643 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 8: Sunday Nights win. They got shut out on the road 644 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 8: tonight victories for Washington and San Diego victories for Cleveland 645 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 8: and Atlanta, which beat San Francisco nine to five. The 646 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 8: Giants have lost six in a row. Caitlin Clark will 647 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 8: miss another game on Tuesday with a groin injury. WNBA 648 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 8: resumes with five games Tuesday night. Veteran NBA guard Chris 649 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 8: Paul signed with the Clippers, who also added Bradley Beal 650 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 8: and Brook Lopez. This offseason, Paul, now forty years old, 651 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 8: was as a clipper All NBA five times Former BYU 652 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 8: quarterback Jake Rahetz Laugh is transferring to Tulane. Reminder, the 653 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 8: women Soccer Euros have the semi finals starting Tuesday on 654 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 8: Fox TV England against Italy and then on Wednesday it'll 655 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 8: be Germany against defending World Cup champion Spain. Pitching change 656 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 8: at Dodger Stadium. Kirby Yates brought in in the ninth 657 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 8: five to one LA lead on the Twins. 658 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: Back to you a couple of notes. First off, the 659 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: Women's Euro if you haven't watched it, some of the 660 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: best most entertaining soccer I've seen in my life. 661 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 8: In Spain is largely dominant. Yeah, they've been ridiculous there 662 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 8: and somehow England is still in this tournament. 663 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: Well, that matchup against Sweden the other day and it 664 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: goes they come back from down. 665 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 8: To eightieth minute and then missed three penalty kicks in 666 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 8: a row at the end in the shootout and still. 667 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 3: Advance and still advance. And then for the Brewers and 668 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 3: you'll love this blank they have not lost since they 669 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: acquired Andrew Vaughan from the White. 670 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 8: Sit Sucks, who was a very high draft choice as 671 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 8: I recall, and batting won something for the White size. 672 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a higher war in ten games for 673 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: them than he did for the Socks for years. 674 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 4: War. 675 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: There you go, Thanks Steve. That's Steve Disager at the 676 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 3: news desk. That's Chris Plank in for Jason Smith at 677 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 3: Plank Show, where you find and find me over at 678 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: Swollen Dome. We'll keep an eye on this Dodger ganzas 679 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 3: Yates comes in here to try to close things out 680 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 3: for the Dodgers and the ninth against the Twins. But 681 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: coming up next, we'll turn our attention back again to 682 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: the National Football League and the front running Lions. Yeah, 683 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: I know that sounds strange to hear it, even after 684 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 3: all these years, the front running Lions and one back 685 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: who thinks this has to be the year. We'll tell 686 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: you who it is what's all about next here on 687 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. 688 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 689 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven 690 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 691 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: Well that's a little bit of insanity on a Monday night. 692 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: Everybody could just shake their heads, collective screams of glee, delight, confusion. 693 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: Here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, we watched a 694 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: guy his arm may or may not have fallen off. 695 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 3: He leaves the Ivessia leaves the game. Yeates comes in, 696 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: a sorry tater. Scott comes into the game, and uh, 697 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 3: well we get our chaos and Correa deep to the 698 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 3: deepest part of the ballpark but caught at the wall. 699 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 3: So he preserves a Dodger's victory. Will turn that around, 700 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: no doubt. A play of the night. But five to two, Uh, 701 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: your final in this one just absolute insanity, Scott. I'm 702 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: sorry it was the pitcher that left the game because 703 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 3: it was an injury. The trainer came out. He was 704 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 3: kind of shaking his arm and and flexing and whatever. 705 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 3: Not quite sure uh the extent thereof, But we've we've 706 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 3: questioned all along, right, I know you have prosburg de 707 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 3: Sager in terms of the the bullpen and the reliance thereof. 708 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 3: We watched it last year. Obviously it ends up with 709 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 3: the World Series, but going to that well for a 710 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: second straight long season, and with all the injuries to 711 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 3: the starting rotation we've seen this bullpen called on to 712 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: do an incredible amount of work. My apologies for miss 713 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 3: speaking with Vessia. I was Tanner Scott who left the game, 714 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: and now we'll await word Yeats comes in to get 715 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: the save, and the ex sale that he had on 716 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: the mound after the ball was caught to the deepest 717 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 3: part of the ballpark is really one of the great reactions. 718 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: We can't obviously show you here on Foxbourne Radio, but 719 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 3: let me speak to it. You had a sizeable man 720 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: on the mound that they had felt and looked like 721 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: he'd had the breaths taken out of him, you know, 722 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: going back to our earlier Harry Potter reference, like the 723 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: death eaters had come for his soul. 724 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 4: I've got to see it. I told you whenever things 725 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: started going poorly early on, I turned off my feed 726 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: because I was watching early show. He gave up a 727 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 4: home run. Then when I turned it off, the Dodgers 728 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 4: got a home run from show Hey to take the lead, 729 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 4: and I decided that might be bad luck tonight. So 730 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 4: I'm waiting to see this play because you already mentioned it. 731 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: Is it the play of the night is again not 732 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 4: only candidate has it already in the eyes of Mike 733 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 4: Harman sealed that deal. 734 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 3: Oh as as Frostburg would say, is water wet? 735 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 4: Is water wet? 736 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 3: That is correct to Dodger victory. No matter what I 737 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 3: thought the play of the night was gonna be, I 738 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 3: would have gotten this play no matter what. 739 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: Five to two of the final. So there you go, 740 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 4: Dustin may look pretty good tonight. One hundred pitches based 741 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 4: on my game cast watching of this, nicely done. 742 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: There you go came on in relief of show a 743 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: TONI gave you one hundred pitches. As the Dodgers get 744 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: the five to two victory. Show Hey started the game, 745 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 3: gave up leadoff home run to Buxton, a couple of strikeouts, hits, 746 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: a two run homer of his own, and a five 747 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 3: to two final. So we'll get to the play that 748 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 3: I will talk a little more about the Dodgers and 749 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 3: where they are as we get towards the trade deadline, 750 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 3: which is just next week as well, but we alluded 751 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: to it earlier. The Detroit Lions in that rare spot 752 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 3: of being the hunted, the lion at the top of 753 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: the food chain. There the Bears a lot of great 754 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 3: off season headlines. They re up their GM still wondering 755 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: what the hell that's all about before proof of concept 756 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: and all of that. The packers with Jordan Love, they 757 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: keep adding pieces. Will Sheppard, former Colorado wide receiver, joins 758 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: a very crowded wide receiving cord there, and then of 759 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 3: course the Minnesota Vikings and the wildcard that is JJ McCarthy. Well, 760 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: David Montgomery, former Bear, said that following the back to 761 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 3: back failures, this is talking to you. Eric Woodyard of 762 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 3: ESPN quote, everybody's tired of being close. It's cool to 763 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 3: be close at first, but you can't get comfortable with 764 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 3: being close all the time. And he goes on saying 765 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: he's the hungerst that he's been, et cetera. But also 766 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 3: that it's the year of reckoning that you're talking about. 767 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 3: This is their next big best shot with the NFC 768 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: and more teams starting to go in the right direction, 769 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 3: and certainly within the division, the cannibalization they're in, changing 770 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 3: of coordinators, a lot is shuffled out for Detroit, but 771 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: they come back with most of their principles. Hutchinson he'll 772 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 3: be back on the defensive front, but the offense with 773 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 3: all the pieces that they have, that really if they 774 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: can't win, now that wondering what becomes of the what 775 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 3: if Lions. 776 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: It's the most fascinating division in football. I think the 777 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 4: NFC North is with not only do you hit it 778 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 4: on that Johnny Morton and Calvin Sheppard are taking over 779 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 4: as the offensive and defensive course. We didn't know much 780 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 4: about Ben Johnson. We knew Aaron Glenn, but we didn't 781 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 4: know much about Ben Johnson when he took over as 782 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator. We know John Morton, but can he 783 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: take them back to that level? Right now? You're working 784 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 4: with Arnie on Friday Night. Arnie doesn't care about coordinators. 785 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 4: I think it's the most important thing in the success 786 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 4: of an NFL team outside of getting the quarterback right. 787 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 4: Speaking to quarterbacks, the Vikings are now going with essentially 788 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: a rookie. What are your Bears? What are the Packers? Consistently? 789 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 4: You know what, I think it's the most fascinating division, 790 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 4: and I'm not rubber stamping. Regardless of what David Montgomery says. 791 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: The Lions to win it, no question about it. We'll 792 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 4: get into some of the odds and some of the 793 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 4: chaos there, and we'll recap and look at what the Dodgers. 794 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 3: Win means and well, I mean, you'll have to hear 795 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 3: the final play for yourself. He's Chris Blanket for Jason Smith. 796 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,280 Speaker 3: I'm Mike Carmen. An hour more coming on Fox Sports 797 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 3: Radio