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Speaker 1: you planned out opening the show like that, didn't you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's right, Jeff, So it is Miller time. Okay. As

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Speaker 1: we start to get into this a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: I've noticed following you on Twitter and by the way,

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Speaker 1: man right there? You're starting to look at some offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: because you know I hate offensive lineman. Do you hate

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Speaker 1: but offensive linemen actually have come around on it. But

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually watching offensive lineman and I'm ashamed of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And as you folks know, again, we're a full service show.

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Speaker 1: You we do have a lot of Dallas Cowboys ties.

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk about offensive lineman, We'll talk about linebackers,

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Speaker 1: fan of another team. If you're a fan of the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, congratulations. You're a fan of Los Angeles Rams,

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Speaker 1: congratulations here team your Rams guy doesn't want a draft,

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Speaker 1: so you probably aren't gonna be watching our show too much, correct,

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Speaker 1: But you do a good job with your homegrown guys.

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Speaker 1: As far as for the Dallas Cowboys, are you watching

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Speaker 1: of see at twenty four this thing being wide open

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Speaker 1: player available, which is the ideal part. Now, Like on

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Speaker 1: my YouTube page, I've already begun mock drafts. Yeah so, um,

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Speaker 1: but if you want YouTube dot com slash, Jeff con

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Speaker 1: COM's on the scene. David, Good morning, sir, Good morning, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to some Twitter on the twenty. Twitter on

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Speaker 1: the twenty, Hey, hey, this is where we take your

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Speaker 1: questions about out the draft for the panel. Jeffrey and

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Speaker 1: I'll do our very best to handle those questions. They say,

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Speaker 1: good ones today, We've got a couple of them. Jeff

436
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Speaker 1: got a couple of them. Dan Rodgers wants to know

437
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Speaker 1: Dean at twenty four. He would love but is there

438
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Speaker 1: a second round linebacker? And he mentioned Clark from LSU.

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Speaker 1: Have you looked at any linebackers or anything like I

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Speaker 1: have seen Devin Lloyd, Nakobe Dean, and Channing Tindall. So no,

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Speaker 1: I cannot help you with second round linebackers yet, and

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Speaker 1: unlike some people in our industry, yeah, I will not

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Speaker 1: lie to your face and say I've watched seven thousand guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm up to about thirty and I'm getting three or

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Speaker 1: four done a night. Okay, so I can't help you. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well I'll talk about Clark then from LSU. And you know,

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Speaker 1: to me because he mentioned Clark, and this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that's a physical player, I think he'd actually be

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Speaker 1: a great fit. He's six three, he's two hundred and

450
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Speaker 1: forty five pounds. This is a sideline to side line

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Speaker 1: player if you're into that stuff. The Cowboys seem like

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Speaker 1: they're wanting to draft some bigger linebackers. So Clark, Damon

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Speaker 1: Clark from LSU would be a guy that I would

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Speaker 1: look at. I don't see him used much in pass coverage,

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Speaker 1: but what he is like, he is a downhill player.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of violence to his game. I have

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Speaker 1: this guy in the second round as a because I

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Speaker 1: like the way and I'm not just saying because an

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Speaker 1: LSU guy. But you don't see this guy get caught

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Speaker 1: up in trash and bodies and a large guy. He

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Speaker 1: moves so well, so easily. He was a leader on

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Speaker 1: the defense that really needed one. LSU didn't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that they really can hang their hat on.

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Speaker 1: But this, this guy, I could see all this physicality

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Speaker 1: that he plays with carrying over to the NFL. I'll

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Speaker 1: also throw you another name of a guy, Chad Mama

467
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Speaker 1: ying Wyoming. Yeah, and and with Chad, this is another

468
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Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's sick two, he's two hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty six pounds. I have him more of a

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Speaker 1: third round guy, but this is a relentless guy. Just

471
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Speaker 1: when you think this guy might be out of the play,

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Speaker 1: he finds a way to make a play. He has

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Speaker 1: a nose for the ball. He's not gonna wow you

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Speaker 1: with this athletic ability, and there's but there's some sneakiness

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Speaker 1: to his game as an outstanding wrap up tackler, super

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Speaker 1: productive for the Wyoming Cowboys, disruptive as a blitzer. I

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Speaker 1: know you always talk about guys Jeff that can really

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Speaker 1: really rush cover. He can, and that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: He could read his keys really well and gets the

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Speaker 1: ball really quickly. So kind of like a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys to keep an eye on there if Dean. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we all agree that Dean would be Uh, what did

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Speaker 1: you you said you watched Lloyd from Utah? What did

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Speaker 1: you do? What did you do? You you like? I

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Speaker 1: prefer Dean. Prefer Dean. Okay, I like them both. I

486
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Speaker 1: think they're both going to be picked in the first

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Speaker 1: round and I both deserving of that. Yeah. I just

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Speaker 1: I think that Nikobe Dean is a super charge ed

489
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Speaker 1: Nick Bolton. Yeah, and we loved Nick Bolton last year, right,

490
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Speaker 1: and it makes a bunch of plays for Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: So it's a guy who's not real big, yeah, but

492
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Speaker 1: he's super smart. He process as fast as hell, he

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Speaker 1: puts teammates in the right spot. And then, in Dean's case,

494
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Speaker 1: he's also an incredible athlete who blitz is really well.

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Speaker 1: I love Nikobe Dean. I like Devin Lloyd. Yeah, he's

496
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Speaker 1: the bigger guy. He also had a bunch of backfield production.

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Speaker 1: He could cover tight ends for you. I think Devin

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Speaker 1: Lloyd is probably the better cover linebacker and Dean is

499
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Speaker 1: probably the better attacking linebacker. Yeah, okay, I you know what.

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Speaker 1: I I love them both, and I think you've got

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Speaker 1: I think you've got Lloyd, right, I think if you

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Speaker 1: were going for the bigger guy man, I was watching again,

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Speaker 1: I was watching. I was watching the offensive tackle at

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Speaker 1: Georgia last night, and uh no, I was watching who

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Speaker 1: was it? It was? I was watching somebody, but it

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Speaker 1: was George. I was watching, watching Brian. I was trying

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Speaker 1: to think of who I was a sawyer, Yeah, I was,

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Speaker 1: but I was watching. Something came up on George's defense.

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Speaker 1: Dean like made every single tackle. I mean, it just

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Speaker 1: it was one of those things where I kept seeing

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I was watching something and that was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my favorite thing about na Kobe Dean is he makes

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Speaker 1: every single tackle. Yeah, and usually he has to run

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Speaker 1: around a teammate to do it because he reacts so

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Speaker 1: much quicker and then just in his way, so he

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Speaker 1: has to go around another I think I was watching

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Speaker 1: somebody at Michigan and it it just showed up. But okay,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Condrad, I think I said that right, Johnny khan

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Speaker 1: Rand He asked with Dan Quinn, stay in, is Dan

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Speaker 1: going to influence a defensive pick in the first round

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Speaker 1: or you think this thing is going to go BPA

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Speaker 1: at either position? The wild card there is that dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn's not the only one with a big voice, right right.

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Speaker 1: All the coaches in this organization tend to have a

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Speaker 1: big voice. So like, I don't think dan Quinn is

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Speaker 1: going to be in the room strong arm in it

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Speaker 1: and say no, my guy. But will dan Quinn have

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Speaker 1: an influence on what they think of players and what

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Speaker 1: they're looking for in their players. Absolutely so. I think

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Speaker 1: if you're thinking about defensive backs with dan Quinn here,

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Speaker 1: think about length, think about probably not small guys, probably

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Speaker 1: long arms. When you're thinking about linebackers and dan Quinn's here,

533
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Speaker 1: think about flying, think about rallying, think about forty times.

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Speaker 1: I think dan Quinn wants guys who are long in

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Speaker 1: the secondary and fast underneath. So he'll have influence in

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Speaker 1: that way if you're trying to figure out who the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys may be targeting length in the secondary, speed underneath.

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Speaker 1: Is there a side of you that with dan that

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Speaker 1: and you talk about with the with the way you

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Speaker 1: just said things, and we just had a tweet ask

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Speaker 1: us about Jordan Davis, the tackle. I know we mentioned him.

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Speaker 1: Are you are you interested in taking a two down

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Speaker 1: player at twenty four or? I mean, because to me

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Speaker 1: and and we have another question about Somebody asked me

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Speaker 1: about Trade Davis on Twitter. Asked me about Matthis from Alabama,

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Speaker 1: and to me, Matthis is more of a guy that

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Speaker 1: would play I think every down as opposed to just

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Speaker 1: Davis being a two down player. Do you think he

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Speaker 1: would be? Yeah, this is going to be an interesting

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle class because I think so many teams and

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Speaker 1: if I had a team, I would prioritize the ever

552
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Speaker 1: living stuff out of finding interior guys who can pressure

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. And in this class, I don't really have

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Speaker 1: one that I love in the first round, like de

555
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Speaker 1: Marvin Leeale at Texas A and m has the physical

556
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Speaker 1: traits to do it, but I haven't seen him consistently

557
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Speaker 1: do it. Jordan Davis is three hundred and sixty pounds

558
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Speaker 1: and he is what he is. He's a mountain. He's

559
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: not gonna move. I think there is a lot of

560
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Speaker 1: value and being able to stop the run with fewer

561
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Speaker 1: numbers and drop a bunch of dudes into coverage. We're

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Speaker 1: seeing that a lot in the NFL. Yeah, and Jordan

563
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Speaker 1: Davis could be a big part of that for a

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Speaker 1: team if he has picked in the first round. Understand it,

565
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Speaker 1: but I think I would prioritize pass rush so much

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Speaker 1: that if you don't add to my team in either

567
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Speaker 1: pass rush or coverage, it would be hard for me

568
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Speaker 1: to get excited about the first round pick. So let's

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Speaker 1: say the Cowboys picked Jordan Davis. My official stance would

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Speaker 1: be probably would have gone a different direction there. Now,

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Speaker 1: once we get that out of the way, are you

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Speaker 1: excited that Jordan Davis is on your team? Absolutely? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I would probably rather pick somebody who affects passing down. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. And this is why you know,

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Speaker 1: Phildarian think math is from Alabama. Have you a chance

576
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Speaker 1: to see him at all? Or I watched him before

577
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: the title game, so I have a very little idea. Yeah, okay,

578
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Speaker 1: Well to me, okay, here's a guy that's six hundred

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Speaker 1: sixty four three twenty and really super stout at the

580
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Speaker 1: point of attack, and much like Davis, you know, hard

581
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Speaker 1: guy to move and stuff like that. But I see

582
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Speaker 1: that initial quick move, that surge. It's him into the

583
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Speaker 1: blocker quickly you could disengage. He's powerful. I just see

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00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: a better pass rusher. And maybe that's where if you're saying, oh, well,

585
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Speaker 1: Davis is a he's gonna push the pocket and he's

586
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Speaker 1: gonna be disrupted that way. Great. I kind of see

587
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Speaker 1: matthis as a guy that's big, can play the run,

588
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: can push the pocket, but also can disengage and get

589
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Speaker 1: get to another spot. Is what. So if you were

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Speaker 1: if you were telling me that I could have my

591
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: choice between one or the other, I think I would

592
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Speaker 1: take Matthis over Davis in this case, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: I would just wait till the second round and see

594
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Speaker 1: what's there. Yeah, I agree with because I'm throwing the

595
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: name Davante Wyatt, Jordan Davis's teammate. Yeah, he's what three

596
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Speaker 1: ten and twelve pounds, incredible get off just not the

597
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Speaker 1: down end down out, you know, dominating the point and

598
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: getting a ton of pressures, but he shows you some

599
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: of the things that you want from a pass rusher. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like that to me, the

601
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Speaker 1: second round is more so for that position than maybe

602
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Speaker 1: the first round. I would trade number twenty four and

603
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: my second round pick if you promised me that a

604
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Speaker 1: year from now I can have Georgia's sophomore defensive tackle

605
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Speaker 1: Jawen Carter. You're learning of eight years of doing this

606
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Speaker 1: number eighty eight at Georgia. It's gonna be a top

607
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: ten pick next year. He is a monster at detail.

608
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Speaker 1: You've learned something that I learned way way back in

609
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two when I first started watching, like Florida

610
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: State in Miami play and you're supposed to be watching

611
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: a defensive end from Florida State, and then all of

612
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're watching a defensive tackle that's a freshman

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Speaker 1: or a sophomore. Yeah, and you're like, you made all

614
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Speaker 1: the plays. I used to go, Hey, I go, hey,

615
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Speaker 1: U Dorsey, who's that guy? Oh, don't worry about him.

616
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Speaker 1: He's only a sophomore. Yeah, I'm like, worry about him

617
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Speaker 1: next year. Oh yeah, So that was always the way

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Speaker 1: it was. Okay, Cowboy Chuck, He asked, is it too

619
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Speaker 1: early to really to address the left tackle spot for

620
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? I feel like people have been asking this

621
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Speaker 1: question for at least the last two years. It's so

622
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: hard because are you getting to the point where it

623
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Speaker 1: would make sense too? Yeah, But if the guy that

624
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Speaker 1: you pick to do it can't start for you at

625
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Speaker 1: say left guard, then if Tyrn's here unhealthy, your first

626
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: round pick is gonna watch football. Yeah, And not just

627
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: this year. He would watch football forever and until Tyrant

628
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Speaker 1: has hurt or gone. So, like, I understand that you

629
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Speaker 1: want to solidify that and a lot of people want

630
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Speaker 1: to know what's next. And you know, Tyran's generally speaking

631
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna miss some games. But if you're invested in a

632
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Speaker 1: first round pick, you better be able to play guard

633
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Speaker 1: because otherwise, if Tyran plays seventeen, you're going to have

634
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Speaker 1: your first round pick watch seventeen games. Yeah, I man,

635
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Speaker 1: I think last year was my year of trying to

636
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Speaker 1: get a guy that could play guard and then if

637
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: I had to move him to tackle, but I knew

638
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I would potentially have like a a Pro Bowl type

639
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: guard until my tackle was ready. Kenyon Green maybe he

640
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: played left tackle, right tackle, left guard, right guard. I

641
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: didn't watch a left tackle game of his, but I'm

642
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: watched him play guard, and I watched him play right tackle,

643
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: and the dude can play. Do you feel like that

644
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green is a guy that he's a guard, he's

645
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: a card, he's a guard, he has a guard. I

646
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: can play with him a tackle and get by. He's

647
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: a guards, an NFL guard. That's what I'm saying, though,

648
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: Is it more important to have the guard as it

649
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: is to have the tackle right today, yes, today, because

650
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: you want to win the Super Bowl next year. That's

651
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: your goal, right right right, And for every Cowboy fans

652
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna win or whatever, your goal is

653
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: to go in and left guard is where currently you

654
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: have nothing unless you're moving somebody right now, there's nothing

655
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: there McGovern. That's kind of what's there. You need a

656
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: left guard, left tackle. You would like a guy to

657
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: make you feel better for in case a guy misses games.

658
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: Left guard, you need a guy. Yeah, would you rather

659
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: how about this one? Would you rather have the center

660
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: Linda Bomb or have a guy that could play guard

661
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: end tackle? I like Tyler linder Bomb way too much.

662
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: So my answer is Linderbomb. I think he's Jason Kelsey. Okay,

663
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna play in a bunch of Pro Bowls. I

664
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be an All Pro U. We've talked

665
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, I think Tyler Linderbaum is a stud,

666
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: stud stud. Is he better than any tackle that you

667
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: could pick or any uh? Is that so valuable? Yeah?

668
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: That I think right. If you had to say what

669
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: order would you pick offensive linemen in this draft, I'd

670
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: probably go Evan Neil I, Linder bamb and then either

671
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Charles Cross yeah, Penning, Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of

672
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: I think I think he got I mean, I I

673
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: like Cross the best out of that. And then you know,

674
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Quan Wu. I think that's the one that I think

675
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: that's the one. He might be the first one taken.

676
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: When it's all moves humans like you're not supposed to

677
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: be able to do, right, that is the most powerful dude. Ye,

678
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. You're just still now, You're absolutely right.

679
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: But we know the cowboys, I kind of feel going

680
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: to the top. Yeah, exactly. I mean, if you have

681
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: to dress the offensive line, I think there's some options there. Okay,

682
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: Matt Corner wants to know. And I don't think you've

683
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: looked at any tight ends, right yo, sir, I do

684
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: not believe him. Okay, Matt Corner, he asked me. Then

685
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: I picked the question. He has sawn Ohio State one

686
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: catch a ball. When I was watching the receivers last night,

687
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: Jeremy Rucker is the guy's name is the tight end

688
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: and I kind of feel like though that he was

689
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: asking if Rucker was a third or second or third

690
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: round guy. I kind of have him more in them

691
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: in that third round range. But do you think that

692
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: there's a group of tight I do? I do, I do.

693
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: And I'm going to give you a guy that you

694
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: need to keep an eye on. There's a kid named

695
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: Kadeton out of Washington, and he was banged up a

696
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: little bit this season and he got the COVID and

697
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: he missed a couple of games that way. But when

698
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: you watch him play, this is a super productive weapon.

699
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: And then this kid can actually block, and so I'm

700
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of interested tight end. No, No, this kid can

701
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: actually block. But this guy's a weapon. And they line

702
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: him up all over the place and he'll run routes

703
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: from all these spots and he'll stick his nose in there.

704
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: Like I talked about, he's a fit position blocker. He

705
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: gets movement with his feet and the way he does it,

706
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like he was better in line

707
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: than on the wing. When he was on the move.

708
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was as good a blocker when

709
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: they asked him to do the come inside, do a

710
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. When he had to go face up

711
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: and hit somebody in the you know, block him head up,

712
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: he was. He was good. He's tough after catch, he

713
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: catches the ball in his hands. I didn't see the

714
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: one time where he missed the ball. I'm watching Michigan,

715
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: watching UCLA. He's not missing the ball. This guy. I mean,

716
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: he's flexible in the way he plays. So keep an

717
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: eye on if this team. Kay dot and I'll talk

718
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: about Jeremy Rucker, the gentleman. You saw it from Ohio State.

719
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: I think by the way that I think that Jalen Widemeyer,

720
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: the Texas A and M tight end, is the first

721
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: tight end in the draft, and then you've got all

722
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: these other guys underneath. But the thing with Rucker that

723
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: I saw is another confident hands catcher. But he's not

724
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: really fleet of foot, you know. I kind of thought that,

725
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, he gets old. You ever write the word lumbering.

726
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 1: I never wrote that down. I wrote would not call

727
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: him fleet of foot, but I did say he managed

728
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: to get open. I thought he was a good finisher

729
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: when the ball was near him, efficient run after catch,

730
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: but you know, nothing for nothing that would make me

731
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: feel like It's kind of like the guys you're watching

732
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: now for the Cowboys. You know, when you watch them play,

733
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, they catch the ball, they get up

734
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: the field, but not the most fleet of foot, not

735
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: the most fleet of foot at all. So but I think,

736
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Jeff, I think there's I

737
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: think there's four or five tight ends that I've seen

738
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: already that if you're a Dallas Cowboy fan and you're interested,

739
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: you're saying, oh, we're gonna Tray McBride's. Another guy mentioned

740
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: him to Hellman, that's a Colorado State guy. Those guys

741
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: can just come in and compete with Jarwin and McEwen

742
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: and go. They might be even, they might even beat

743
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: like if you're talking like third and fourth round guys

744
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: with what you did with Schultz. Guys are the same

745
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: thing to me, and maybe a little bit Schultz while

746
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: to get going though you know it, Schultz wasn't too

747
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: happy with me because I reminded people that it took

748
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: him time to get going. Yeah you know, I mean

749
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: it took him what three years to be a productive

750
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: NFL tight end. So you're you're you're do you think

751
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys just don't even need to Okay, let me

752
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: ask you this. I hate tight ends, Brian. I would

753
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: just play another receiver. But right now, like you have

754
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: Jarwin under contract, and I think Jarwin and Schultz and

755
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: whoever else, like Spider Man meme, they're just time you

756
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: you're me. Yeah, if if you just just keep Jarwin

757
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: unless you need to save money and lose him too,

758
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: but just Jarwin's your tight end. Bringing another guy if

759
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: they like mckewan, great, and and see what happens if

760
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: you want to use a mid round okay, t end

761
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had another question then, and I didn't

762
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: pull it because it was a quarterback question. Fourth round

763
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: tight end, fourth round quarterback, because you're tight end, because

764
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: I think, and you know, this team kind of bucks

765
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: this trend. And Tom Brady just retired as a sixth

766
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: round pick. But for the most part, I need to

767
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: go back and get those notes. By the way, for

768
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: the most part, if you're drafting a fourth round quarterback,

769
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: you're lighting a pick on fire. They're you know, the

770
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: potential payoff, I guess to teams is kind of worth it.

771
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: But what dak undrafted Romo Tom Brady in the sixth

772
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Outside of that, they know or to pick quarterbacks. Quarterbacks

773
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: get picked in the first round or back in the

774
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: day if they were small or something, maybe in the

775
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: second I think fourth round you might find an NFL

776
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: starter at tight end, the odds of finding a starting

777
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: quarterback or I guess what would your goal be to

778
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: see if you can find a back up. That's what

779
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what happens. That's so I was just kind

780
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: of thinking, yeah, I don't hate that. I guess it's

781
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: such a big lottery ticket if you know, if you

782
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: don't if you don't like tight ends. I'm just saying,

783
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: if you were a general manager of a team and

784
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: you're not a big fan of take in a third

785
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: or fourth round tight end, I'm trying to gauge, would

786
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: you take a quarterback at that spot instead of taking

787
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: a tight end that you think it's like, ah, I

788
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: might hit on this tight end. Yeah, I wouldn't hate it,

789
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: because I mean, even you know, fourth round, your odds

790
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: of hitting on anything or probably below fifty percent quarterback,

791
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be way lower, but the potential payoff is

792
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: way higher. So we're just doing gambling, playing gambling odds.

793
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: When you look at your board right now, of the

794
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: players you've you've looked at so far, let me get it.

795
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: And I know you really like the center. I know

796
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: you like green I know you have some guys. Is

797
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: there somebody that we're we haven't been talking about that

798
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: You're like, listen, man, this guy might not be a

799
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: first round guy, but I would hit him in the

800
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: second if if you could get it. That kind of guy. Yeah,

801
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: one of those guys like your favorite player that's not

802
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: a first round player, or if you just looked at

803
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: all first round players. No, I've looked at guys that

804
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: aren't first round players, but then the ones who aren't

805
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: first round players kind of jump out. I'll tell you,

806
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you could get him with the Cowboys

807
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: second round pick. Hell, maybe he does sneak into the

808
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: first round. I really like Jiquon Brisker, the Penn State safety. Yeah,

809
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: and it depends what happens at safety, right, Yeah, you

810
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: think about like I thought Taylor Rapp was a good prospect.

811
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: I thought one Thornhill was a good prospect, and they

812
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: go like in the fifties and sixties, If that happened

813
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: to Jaquon Brisker at Penn State, I'm in. I just

814
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 1: think he's such a steady, good player that's versatile, physical,

815
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: can cover all those different things. I like him. Daxton Hill,

816
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: the Michigan safety is probably going earlier than that. So

817
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: would you take him in twenty four? You could one

818
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: of my last resorts. Yeah, yeah, is he if you

819
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: get wiped out guy? Yeah, he and I would probably

820
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: take Zion Johnson. Yes, I wiped out guy ahead of

821
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: Daxton Hill. Yeah, but I think those are the sort

822
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: of Michigan safety, right Daxton Hill, Yeah, Michigan safety. And

823
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: he's interesting because, first of all, he can fly. And

824
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: if the team runs three wide receivers are more he

825
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: plays the nickel. If they run two, he plays safety.

826
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: So you get versatility you gotta do. They can fly,

827
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: that's not afraid to be physical, that can cover. Daxton

828
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: Hill is a good player. When I first saw Daxton Hill,

829
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: I thought he was Dallas's pick at twenty four. Yeah,

830
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: when I first watched him, and that's when, I mean,

831
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: he was really early in my evaluation. But I think

832
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: you got him. Name. Is there anybody else that you're

833
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of really like that maybe that

834
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: you could get because you did a good job with

835
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuels and getting guys early on radars, I'm

836
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 1: gonna end up loving a bunch of wide receivers. I'm sure,

837
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: and I bet second and third round is a place

838
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys will be interested. So I'll find them

839
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: right now. I've just watched Olave and Garrett Wilson Ohio State.

840
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: I've watched Jamison Williams and John Metchi at Alabama. What

841
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: about MITCHI Where where does he fit? So I would

842
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: be getting ready for the title game? Yeah, and so

843
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of him. But I like

844
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: John Metchi. I think the guys who have a nice

845
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: ability to sort of chop their feet, make good breaks,

846
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: run nice routes. He's got some moves after the catch.

847
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: It's a tough runner. Uh, we'll see. I think John

848
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: Metchi's probably a second or third rounder. And as I

849
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: get through these wide receivers, I'll put them in order

850
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: and we're gonna find one. We'll have a pizza party guy. Yeah,

851
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: there'll be a pizza party wide receiver. Do you see

852
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: the depth at wide receiver that you've seen in the

853
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: past or you just kind of like, I don't know

854
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: about all. I don't know yet. Guys, right, Yeah, the

855
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: top guys are injured. You got and like I've watched

856
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: four guys, three of them are probably gonna be top

857
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: fifty picks right, plus the Arkansas guys gonna be a

858
00:44:53,480 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: top fifty pick. So like it seems like I'm not

859
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: blown away by the top of the draft. Like Jameson

860
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Williams is a good player, Garrett Wilson is a good player.

861
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that either one is ever going to

862
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: be an NFL number one. I know they're gonna help.

863
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I know they're gonna help a football team. But I'm

864
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: not blown away at the top. But I feel like

865
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: there might be a whole bunch of really good receivers. Yeah,

866
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna tell you a guy that

867
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of falling in love with. And he happens

868
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: to be a defensive end. And you know this is

869
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: you know when you start to George Karloftis I love Carloft? Oh?

870
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Is that him? I know, I think it's probably too earlier.

871
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on this. Germaine Johnson at a Florida State.

872
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: I watched him last night. What do you think. I

873
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: think that he's got a really good defensive end body,

874
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: like what two sixty six four or whatever? Yeah, right now?

875
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: And he um he's so hand dependent, but he's good

876
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, like whether it's run game or pass Yeah.

877
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't see a bunch of like snatch offensive linemen

878
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: to throw him right, I see a lot of yeah,

879
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: fight right, beat him right, go. Yeah. And that's his

880
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: outside pass rush. That's his to get free in the

881
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: run game. It's kind of Peter Powder Beach hands go

882
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: you got him. I'm glad you watched him. I really am,

883
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: because I think you described it perfect with the way

884
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: that the hands and stuff like that. But you mentioned

885
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: karloftis if he's there at twenty fools pinball just pop, Yeah,

886
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: that's per due. I mean these defensive ends, I think

887
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: there's some really some good ones. I like what I

888
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: like what I've seen with with these defensive ends so far. Okay,

889
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: we will take our final break and then we will

890
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,560
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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the Draft Show. Brian brought

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Speaker 1: just to see what Rowdy's doing at your house whatever

938
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Speaker 1: you bring him to. Over the years, I've known the

939
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Speaker 1: book Rowdy to like, go with me to a theme park,

940
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Speaker 1: you know, get on the roller coaster with him, sing Rowdy, Yeah,

941
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: hang out with her. I'll tell you what. It's funny.

942
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Speaker 1: I've known over the years the guys have played Rowdy

943
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: and they're all like, really fun guys. Yeah, I knew

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Speaker 1: one of them, kind of it, kind of crazy. They

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Speaker 1: they got a little crazy side to them. Sometimes Rowdy

946
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Speaker 1: goes hard. He does go hard, all right. Speaking of

947
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Speaker 1: going hard, let's go to Mobile, Alabama. Call Omens joins

948
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: the program. Kyle, Welcome to the Draft Show again. How

949
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: are things in Mobile for you? You know it's great,

950
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: but it's just not the same without you guys here.

951
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: I wish you guys were a part of this, just

952
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: as as I know you guys would love to be

953
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: out here as well. Well. You know the thing about

954
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: an in studio guy, Jeff. Jeff doesn't. Jeff doesn't like

955
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: the conditions sometimes because Jeff will under dress for you know,

956
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: like the event. So I think when I went to

957
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, I slept on Machoda's floor. So you know,

958
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm good with I'm good with being in studio and

959
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: going home. You know that's fine. Well, here's here's the

960
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: thing that you would love right now is and you

961
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: guys know as well as anybody, braving the elements is

962
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: usually a part of the Senior Bowl. We just arrived

963
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: to the stadium. There's barely any wind, it's partly cloudy,

964
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: and it's sixty five degrees. So oh yeah, oh no,

965
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: you'll you'll have some good days there at the Senior Bowl.

966
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: Good days, okay, as long as the rain stays off

967
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right about that.

968
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: The rains day way rain for sure, all right, Kyle.

969
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: We talked to Hellman earlier. He had a kind of

970
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: a plan for like watching Jerry, and I think you

971
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: guys are probably going to let him handle that. You're

972
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on the players, particular position, Is there

973
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: a particular player, Is there somebody you're trying to kind

974
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: of get an idea of like, Okay, I'm gonna get

975
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: eyes on him and see if size matches what I'm

976
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: seeing on tape. Yeah, it kind of goes back. And

977
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: I heard Hellman's call early on, and when you guys

978
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 1: were mentioning Trevor Pinning and some of those those measurement deals,

979
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: that was kind of where I was headed as well.

980
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: But I would say offensive defensive line is certainly going

981
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: to be the focal point because just kind of how

982
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: we talked about last week in our preview of everything,

983
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really the biggest mindset I think for

984
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans as they want to improve, they want to

985
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: get more physical in the trenches, whether it's stopping the

986
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: run or blocking for the run on offense. So that's

987
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: kind of where I'm gonna have my eyes today. And

988
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: it was also funny you guys were talking about Tony

989
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: Pollard and kind of going back to his senior bowld

990
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 1: days and how he stuck out to Will McClay and such.

991
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: I just have a gut feeling, and I know Jeff

992
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: is gonna love this. I have a gut feeling that

993
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a wide receiver prospect that starts to

994
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: catch eyes of Cowboys fans throughout the week, and that

995
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: we kind of look at as, oh, maybe this guy

996
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: out of Memphis, Calvin austin the third or a Khalil

997
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Shakier out of Boise State and Alec Pierce out of Cincinnati,

998
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: like just random guy is gonna come up in these

999
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: one on ones against these these top level dbs and

1000
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: then it's gonna show out and actually really rise up

1001
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: draft board. So I know, I kind of pushed away

1002
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: the possibility a couple of weeks ago in our first

1003
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: draft show of drafting wide receiver early on. I don't

1004
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: think it's still a first round conversation, but second and

1005
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: third round wide receivers I think are going to be

1006
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: a hot commodity, and I think a couple of those

1007
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: are here in Mobile. Nobody ever still let me have fun,

1008
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: Like all I want to do. I just want to

1009
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: pick a receiver every year, and this year everybody's contracts

1010
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: are up, so we might pick two of them. We're

1011
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: going to find a pizza party. Guy, do you have

1012
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: anybody like you mentioned the measurements and all that yesterday,

1013
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: and I saw it going up and down the timeline

1014
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: and people being like, oh, my goodness, look at these

1015
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: physical specimens. Is there anything about that that sort of

1016
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: jumped out at you jumped off the page, you went, Oh,

1017
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: probably need to see that guy. I mean, other than

1018
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: the Kinney Pickett story, because I was even on the

1019
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: fan last night with the nosebleed seats some of your

1020
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: toe workers and they asked me that same question. And

1021
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: I hadn't even seen the measurements of Kenny Pickett and

1022
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: the double joint at thumb and that kind of stuff

1023
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: at that point, so that one definitely sticks out. Nothing

1024
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: else really was there from me that really kind was

1025
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: on the table as a hell man, that's something that

1026
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: I need to kind of look at. I'm more of

1027
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: just looking at the football and looking at the tape

1028
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: and guys on the field this week and how they

1029
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of match up against really good competition and scouting them,

1030
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: and then kind of going back and looking at the

1031
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: measurements because I kind of combined the Senior Bowl and

1032
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: then of course the combine later on as those of

1033
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: official measurements back and forth. So I really am I'm

1034
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: excited to just kind of get out of here finally

1035
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: back boots on the ground again for the first time

1036
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty and get to see a lot of

1037
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: these prospects go one on one. Kyle, some of the

1038
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: fan base wants you to find him a quarterback down there,

1039
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: So is that what you're up to. I don't know

1040
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna find the Cowboys a quarterback, but there

1041
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: are a couple of good ones down here. It's I mean,

1042
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, this isn't a strong quarterback

1043
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: class we've been used to. It's really not. I like

1044
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett as kind of the top guy in that category,

1045
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: and maybe a guy who could go in the middle

1046
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,479
Speaker 1: of the first round, but you're not going to see

1047
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: a run on quarterbacks until maybe the end of the

1048
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: first end of the second I mentioned this on the

1049
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: radio last night as well. But Malik willis out of

1050
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: how to liftee. I got to see him live. I

1051
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: called a game of his or you're in the regular season.

1052
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: He doesn't have an offensive line, yeah, or at least

1053
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: he didn't at Liberty. But he has a strong arm,

1054
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: he has mobility, he has decision making. Sometimes sometimes he

1055
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of pressed the issue because of the lack of

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Speaker 1: an offensive line and the lack of time to throw.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him go up behind a five

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Speaker 1: man front of a stud offensive line and really see

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Speaker 1: what he can do in some of these team drills

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Speaker 1: throughout the week. I think he, along with Sam Howe,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback out of North Carolina, if they have a

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Speaker 1: good week, they could potentially move into that first round

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Speaker 1: conversation with a Picket and maybe a Matt Corral and

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Speaker 1: guys like that, because I think that quarterback spot in

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00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: that position group is just so wide open right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the thing with Willis's I mean the

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Speaker 1: measurements a lot of these quarterbacks were under six one.

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00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: That doesn't bother scouts anymore, doesn't. I mean we're in

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00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: a day and age where you could be five nine,

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Speaker 1: five ten whatever, they'll still get drafted right at high,

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Speaker 1: high level. Yeah, it kind of goes back to that

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Speaker 1: that Kyler Murray conversation that we've always had, and I

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00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: know we've had for the last couple of years. Is

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Speaker 1: it kind of opened the door and said, hey, there's

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Speaker 1: there's a chance for shorter quarterbacks to still have success.

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Speaker 1: That that old mindset is kind of gone out the window.

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Speaker 1: But even even then, I still think there is a

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00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: legitimate worry with that kind of thing because you have

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Speaker 1: to make adjustments. The Cardinals had to make adjustments whenever

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00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: they drafted Kyler Murray with their offensive front, they had

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Speaker 1: to find a way to make him successful. So there's

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00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: a couple of dominoes that need to fall in. Yet

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00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Willis is right on that threshold of kind of being

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00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: a little bit undersized but also still a strong arm

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00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: and a talented player at the same time, So I

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00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: don't know if there will be a big mindset with it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even Sam Howell was just barely over Aylo too,

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00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: so he was barely over that six foot realm as well.

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00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: So you've got a couple of smaller quarterbacks, so it'll

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00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they stand up against some

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00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: of those those taller guys that have gone in years past,

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00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: because they just don't have that this year. Kyle, thanks

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00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: so much for hanging out with us. Good hunting at

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00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and you guys enjoy it and we'll

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00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: see when you get back to first Goo. Okay, Yeah,

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00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: thanks guys, look forward to Senil next week. All right,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's he was on our show on the Draft

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Speaker 1: Show from Immobile. It's so we talk about quarterbacks. Tom

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00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Brady retiring today as we broadcast here. Yeah, you want

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00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: to hear my two favorite tweets on the subject, Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: This is from Fox twenty nine and Philly. Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: known for dropping a pass in Super Bowl fifty two

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: and failing to shake Nick Fole's hand, has announced his

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Speaker 1: retirement from the NFL. There you go, And there was

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00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: another one in New York that did the same bit,

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00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: only even better. Tom Brady, who lost two Super Bowls

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00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: to the Giants during his legendary twenty two year NFL career,

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: retires those of those two media outlets that was that's

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00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: crazy local TV people in Philly and the Giants. What

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00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: are we to come? Okay, just take shots on the way.

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00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: Take yourself back if you were in And I know

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00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: the story about how Tom Brady got drafted, and it

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00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: was it was he looked like me with his shirt off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was, you know, tom Brady, not physically impressed.

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00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: I need to go back and get all my draft

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00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: notes now about him from the days of the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: But I remember, I remember the story about there was

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00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: Scott Peeley was the running the draft for the Patriots

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00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: at the time, and he goes in and he tells

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Speaker 1: Dick raybin the quarterback coach. He said, hey, listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: about to draft you a guy here in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: You know who do you have an idea of anybody

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00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: you want? You know, somebody to work with. And Dick

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00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: Raybine at the time goes, there's this kid at Michigan

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00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: named Brady, and he goes, if you want, if you

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Speaker 1: really want to draft me somebody I'd love to work with,

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00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: please pick Tom Brady, and so so guy Scott Pioli.

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00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: Scott Pioli then went and said, okay, we'll hand that

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: card in and higo pick one ninety nine. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: gets picked in the sixth round, but it was Dick Raybine,

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: who's the coach, and he passed away after Brady's second

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I believe he passed away, but he was

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00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: the guy. And you talk about how fate changes in

1134
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: a draft, or how things change in a draft to

1135
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden like hey, we're here, we're

1136
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: looking for trades. Who do you want? Yeah, And that

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00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: just goes to show you too. Just don't throw away

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Speaker 1: a pick, No, you know, don't just throw away a

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00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: pick while you want more darts. Yeah, just don't you know,

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00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: take us sometimes sometimes an organization. Absolutely, it does. It does.

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Speaker 1: Just think about Scott Pioli saying, Okay, we'll take your

1142
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: guy and and and you look at now and you know,

1143
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 1: twenty some odd years later you see what you have. Yeah,

1144
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: like the commissioner saying one of the greatest career blah

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01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: blah blah. You know all that stuff. So it just

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Speaker 1: shows you the draft. If you're sitting there in the

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Speaker 1: first round, the sixth round of the seventh round, again,

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Speaker 1: it might matter a lot. Don't throw away picks. It

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Speaker 1: might matter. Don't throw away picks. Jeffrey, thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: missus today. As I appreciate yep, as we as we

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Speaker 1: say goodbye here, uh Thursday, we'll have to see about

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Speaker 1: our show because again hellman Kyle traveling. If you're following

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Speaker 1: the weather here in Texas, we might get cold. It

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01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: might get really really cold, it might get really really nasty.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what if, in fact we can get to

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01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: the facility in order to have a show. But kind

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Speaker 1: of to get a tractor at that'd be great. I'd

1158
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: love a ride anything to talk about the draft, but

1159
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: figured but kind of keep an eye on, keep an

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Speaker 1: eye on what's going on. We'll make announcements about the

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Speaker 1: show and all that stuff like that. So as we

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Speaker 1: leave here today, I want to thank Chris Beam, our

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Speaker 1: executive producer. I want to thank William Boykin's upstairs for

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Speaker 1: getting us on the air of the way he does too.

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Speaker 1: I especially want to thank Derek Eagleton for allowing us

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Speaker 1: to do this every week. And then I also want

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Speaker 1: to thank ed K. Hill for his idea about the

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Speaker 1: Draft show so long ago. So for all my colleagues,

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Speaker 1: all my friends, it's Brian Brouns. Thanks for hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us at the Draft Show and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you again soon. Take care. This has been a

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Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Football Club.