1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frontle. We are 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: come to you live from the tarat dot com studios 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio, tyrack dot com. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there. And that Max's selection fast 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Free is shipping for your road aster protection and over 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended installers tarrack dot com the way tire 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: buying should be. Do I have to say it again? 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: I've said a bad nauseum. You may be sick of 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: hearing it, but it rings true. Sports continue to be 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: the greatest reality show and you can script everything but 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: the ending. And what's interesting for those who said that 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: the regular season college football might lose its intensity due 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: to the expanded playoff, notwithstanding the fact there's so much 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: more to play for than just a bid. You can 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: host a first round game, you can get a bye, 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: you can host a game on your campus, all of 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: those things. Well, I don't agree with that premise, and 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: I never did. And if you happen to observe the 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: drama stacked upon drama on Saturday, maybe you'll come around 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: to my way of thinking. We just finished up Colorado 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: Kansas State. Tell me there wasn't drama. Alabama, South Carolina 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: more drama. LSU and Old Miss plenty of drama and 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: the two biggest high drama games of the day. One 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: clearly has to do with Penn State. USC has to 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: because there's a word cult expectations. And when Lincoln Riley 28 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: took over for USC three years ago, with all due 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: respect to Colin Coward, I'm quite sure that Lincoln was 30 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: not only gonna go undefeated at USC and never give 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: up a point, he was going to create peace in 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: the Middle East and find a cure for cancer and 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: sell popcorn at halftime. How's that worked out? He's eleven 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: and ten, Lincoln Riley eleven and ten in his last 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: twenty one games, five and eight in his last thirteen. 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Up next at Maryland, that is gonna be no picnic. 37 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't buy this crap about 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: getting on a plane and you fly three thousand miles 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: and YadA, YadA, yat. If you're the better team, you're 40 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: gonna win. Hell. I remember back in Yeah, people act 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: like this is brand new. You know, everybody talks about 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: that great Appalachian State upset at Michigan back on September one, 43 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: two thousand and seven. I know I was there. I 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: covered the game. Nobody talks about. The following week, Oregon 45 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: and Dennis Dixon, their quarterback, got on a plane flew 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: twenty five hundred miles to Michigan and opened up a 47 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: complete can of whoop ass on Lloyd Carr's Wolverines. But 48 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: flying wasn't a big deal then. SC used to routinely 49 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: fly at Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, Oregon would go to Ohio State. 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: They forget it. You're the better team, you win. And 51 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: you know what, Penn State was the better team Saturday, 52 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: weren't they They did what they needed to do when 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: they needed to do it. And the twoth of the 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: matter is, I'm curious. Now SC's three and three. They've 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: still got to travel to Maryland to Washington and technically 56 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: two EUCLA, and then they've got home games against Rutgers, Nebraska, 57 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: and Notre Dame. They'll be surprised if they go two 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: and four and those and end up five and seven. Yeah, 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: I really believe that could happen. But let's talk Oregon, 60 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Will Howard, It's all good. Yeah, sure it is. Well, 61 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: it kinda is, because actually Ohio State still has everything 62 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: in front of them that they had before the Yorican game. 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: If they do it they believe they can and should do, 64 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: and run the table. They'll have no trouble with Michigan. 65 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: I gotta go to Penn State, but you know, Penn 66 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: State's got it in their DNA. They can't beat Ohio 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: State Michigan. I don't see that changing. Ohio State advances 68 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: to the Big Ten Championship game, they might run into 69 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: Oregon again. This time they would be in Indianapolis. But 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm getting ahead of myself because I was wrong. I 71 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: was wrong. People kept telling me, how do you know 72 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State's any good? I said, well, their defense is 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: given up six points a game, and I think they 74 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: play with their food. But their offense looks like an 75 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: NFL offense except for you know, it's all good Will Howard. 76 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: I can't believe. I can't imagine what dak Prescott Mike 77 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 2: McCarthy must have been saying when they were watching the game. 78 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: Insert your own joke there. But I guess it turns 79 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: out the likes of Akron and Western Michigan and Marshall 80 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: and Michigan State and Iowa. Maybe they're not the best 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: indicator of how dominant defensive unit can be. Yes, Ohio 82 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: State entered place Saturday, leading the nation only allowing six 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: point seven points a game. But Oregon and believe me, 84 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: Ottson Stadium can tune it up with the best of them. 85 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: Used to say, you know, coming from autsin Minnister, so 86 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: this show is going to be licked well, coming from 87 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: Watson Stadium. It was turned look it up, youngins. The 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: folks in Eugene in Oregon put up thirty two points 89 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: in almost five hundred yards on the Buckeyes. Dylan Gabriel 90 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: top credit once again rose to the occasion. It was 91 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: his first real big game of that kind of importance 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: with Oregon. Threw for three forty one two touchdowns, ran 93 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: for thirty two, and scored on the ground. Dan Lanning 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: needed this. Dan Lanning needed this. There's been a series 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 2: of tough losses to Washington and Georgia over the past 96 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: couple of seasons, and all of a sudden, Oregon sitting 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: fat and pretty through seven weeks on top of the 98 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: Big Ten. They are as close to a guaranteed spot 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: in the twelf teen playoffs as there is in the 100 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: country now with them in Texas. Meanwhile, while Dan Lanning 101 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: earns his biggest win yet, Ryan Day earns more questions 102 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: just the way it is now, was Ohio State out 103 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: plate No, not at all. As matter of fact, they 104 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: should be committed for a very strong performance in a 105 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: very tough road environment. But the Buckeyes will get on 106 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: that long trip home. Maybe they'll show a movie on 107 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: the flight, maybe a little nache. Yet another loss versus 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: a highly ranked opponent, that's a setback drops Ryan Day 109 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: nawdu one in seven against top five teams during his tenure, 110 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: owned five since twenty twenty one against Oregon and Michigan. Now, 111 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: as far as Saturday Night's performance, if you watched it 112 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: objectively hard to find too many faults with Ohio State's 113 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: performance in Oregon Big ten teams and only inter the 114 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: week with a one and eight record when having to 115 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: travel at least two time zones. But go back and 116 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: look at the matchups. Okay, the better teams won Indiana 117 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: was the team that beat e CLA. Forget it. I 118 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: don't even want to have this argument tonight. It's a 119 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: shock nobody if Oregon and Ohio State meet up again 120 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: in the Big Ten ten game. However, they brought in 121 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: Ryan Day and paid him a hefty salary to win 122 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: these kinds of mess stick games. I hate to split 123 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: Harris with the guy. I don't want to go to 124 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: the Wharton Lincoln's nose and fine fault. But this is 125 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: a dominant defense. The Ducks moved the ball time and 126 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: time again whenever they needed to, and they put up, 127 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, gaudy numbers under just around five hundred yards 128 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: thirty two points season worst performance for Ohio State, and 129 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: that's been the theme of Ryan Day's top five losses. 130 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: In those losses, the opposition averages thirty four points per game. 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: In those matchups. He had his hand pit quarterback Will Howard. 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: He was brought in for his running ability, to experience, 133 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: and when Ohio State drove down the field almost for 134 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: a game tying checked at a game winning field goal almost, 135 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: well that's why they brought Will Howard in. And remember 136 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: two series before, Will Howard dropped a perfect snap right 137 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: to him and instead of a third and short, fourth 138 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: and short day or fourth and long, they had to punt. 139 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: By the way, Will Howard was supposed to have a 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: running ability. He only rushed for thirteen yards and did 141 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: get down the field enough time to allow for a 142 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: potential game winning field goal. Just talked about that. That's 143 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: a kind of mistake you might expect from a freshman quarterback, 144 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: not a guy like Will Howard who's had thirty four starts. 145 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: But it's all good, right, Well, well it actually is. 146 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: That's why this new playoff format is so cool. Hio 147 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: State's not done. Their future games are meaningful, even more 148 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: meaningful now. Whereas if it had been the BCS, you 149 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: could stick a fork in them maybe probably, or even 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: the made for TV Invitational four team tournament they'd have been, 151 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: you know, had one foot in the grave and the 152 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: other on a banana peal. There too, no more margin 153 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: of error, by the way, real quickly. Give it up 154 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: to Penn State to knock on James Franklin during his 155 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: tenure his team's inability to win the biggest games on 156 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: their schedule. Give it up. Franklin found a solution, at 157 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: least for Saturday. Give the ball to Tyler Warren. Oh baby, 158 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: what a beast. Two hundred and forty four yards the 159 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: overtime win matching the all time single game tight end 160 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: record with seventeen catches, seventeen grabs, and his ear extends 161 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: catching the ball. He also threw for a nine yard 162 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: passing a trick play. It even ran for four yards. 163 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: How was their twenty five hundred mile flight to Los 164 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: Angeles including a bus commute for ninety minutes Because he 165 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: can't get out of Happy Valley. He can't get there 166 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: for me. He just can't do it. Once again, the 167 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: better team won and I give it up to Penn 168 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: State down two touchdowns at the halftime. This is an 169 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: m you may never hear of. You may never hear 170 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: of it again. It's the offensive coordinator at Penn State. 171 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: His name's Andy Kootle Niki. He drew up a great 172 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: plan in the second half to get the thing jump started. 173 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: Incredible grab by Warren that really jolted Penn State to life. 174 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: The back and forth and ended with once again. I 175 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: tweeted out last week, this is the DNA of Lincoln 176 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: Riley teams. When you need to make a play in 177 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: the heat of battle, when the heat gets hot and 178 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: it's hard to breathe to win the game, they don't 179 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: do it. They don't do it. Spot the line, so 180 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: between Texas and Oregon. By the way, Texas has Georgia 181 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: on deck. Oklahoma that offense could score the women's prison 182 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: with a fifth full of fifties. And I know Alabama's 183 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: sort of become a drama king, but at least day one. 184 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to college football twenty twenty four. We're here for it. 185 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: You know what else, We're here for the Phasiic five 186 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: coming up in eight hours and forty nine minutes. The 187 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: full slate of the NFL coming up in a little 188 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: over seven hours. We got a London game. We're going 189 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: to cover it all the Phasik five. Get your pens 190 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: and pencils ready. You'll be drinking through a fire hose 191 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: and you know the drill, especially if you like the NFL. 192 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fratderwick keimy Lyn from Las Vegas, Fox Sports 193 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: Radio Tarat dot com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening 194 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 195 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 196 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 197 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 198 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: listen live. 199 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: All right back in the Bernie Fraddle show Fox Sports 200 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: Radio come to live from thee Tarak dot Com studios 201 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas. Just get in Stockard, It's welcome 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: and a gentleman been a fixture at this time for 203 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 2: five years now. You know what I mean. Love and 204 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: you can't leave without on. The only two time winner 205 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: back to back one are the prestigious Hilton now Westgate 206 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: Super Contest. Yes, it's time for Stevesick and the Physic 207 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: five the time. 208 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: It's the Physick five. These are the five things you 209 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: need to hear. 210 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: About, Not with the only back to back Hilton Super 211 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: Contest winner Steveig. 212 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: Here's Bernie Fratto. 213 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: So let's dive right in. Let's tackle a subject matter 214 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: matter near and dear to your heart. And that's when 215 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: you have a crossover favorite. When a team starts out 216 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: as a dog and thanks to the Betty markets, they 217 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: become a favorite. Such is the case with Jacksonville. They're 218 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: now one point favorite of Chicago. The game kicks off 219 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: here in about seven hours at London. And something you 220 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: probably already know Jacksonville. Each one of their opponents when 221 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: playing Jacksonville this year has managed to gain their highest 222 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: yardage in any game. Your thoughts heading into Chicago. 223 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: Jacksonville, so obviously a great spot for Jacksonville. They're used 224 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 4: to the London trip one, two and zero. Last year, 225 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: Chicago left early, Jacksonville late. They're going to be in 226 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: London all week, so they should be fully focused on 227 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: this game. But you know what, Bernie, nothing has changed. 228 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: All this was true back on Wednesday, and you could 229 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: have got Jacksonville plus two. You could have teased Jacksonville 230 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: plus two up to plus eight, and that's when you 231 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: should have been investing in Jacksonville. So now you fast 232 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: forward to it's late Saturday night and the Bears just 233 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: flipped up to you know, DraftKings actually has the Bears 234 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 4: plus one a half now, So now it's time to pivot. 235 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: And if you're going to invest in this game, you 236 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: want to look to play the Bears. No, hurry on it, 237 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: because all the followers have got the memo that Jacksonville 238 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: is the right side. Now they were the right side, 239 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 4: but now it's too late because now that Jacksonville's favored. 240 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: I personally bet Jacksonville big earlier in the week, and 241 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: now I'll be betting Bears. Write a post right before 242 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: the game starts. I'll be teasing Bears from plus one 243 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: and a half up to plus seven a half and 244 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: betting some Bears plus one and a half. 245 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: It's you could get yourself in a middle of there. 246 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: Like I said, soimp teemed to watch. Not that I 247 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: want the Bears to ever get any of my money, 248 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: but the Jags have allowed season high yardage in every 249 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: game they played against your opponents this weekend another crossover fit. 250 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 2: Go ahead, you gonna say something. 251 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: Oh, and the Bears offense has been terrible this year, 252 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 4: but it has shown signs of life the last two weeks. 253 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: Last week it was good. The week before against the 254 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: Rams it started to wake up. 255 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see if they come out of their coma. 256 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titans also fall in that category. Interestingly enough, 257 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: the Titans are a team that held three of its 258 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: four opponents to season low yardage this campaign. But if 259 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: I understand you correctly, you'll be fading the Titans. 260 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I bet the Titans plus one. And by 261 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: the way, people can disagree with me, and all I 262 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: can say is I've worked for multiple betting syndicates, and 263 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: I assure you all of us with those syndicates, we've 264 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: made lots and lots of money, and we'd all have 265 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 4: the same conclusion. It's as simple as the aid of 266 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 4: Club's method of betting. You write down the lines on 267 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: Monday when they first come out, Bernie, and when they 268 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: moved three points, you would never ever back the movement. 269 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: Now it's time to fade the movement. So if you 270 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: like tennessee what has really changed. Okay, you know, Johnson 271 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: Tailer got hurt and a wide receiver is injured for 272 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: the Colts, but the Titans were plus one, so you 273 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: had all week to take Titans plus one. And now 274 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: the Titans scripts at three and Will Levis is going 275 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: to start the worst of their two quarterbacks, So Colts 276 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: plus three. I'm getting rather interested in tas. 277 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: Let me give you a quick counterpoint. We go back 278 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: so long you put up with mightiosecrecies. When I handicap, 279 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: I take into account technical aspects which you have just 280 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: so eloquently outlined, and I take into acoun fundamental aspects 281 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: what my eyes tell me, and I won't go down 282 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: that rabbit hole. Here's a quick quiz for you, fez, 283 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: which NFL team owns the number one ranked overall defense 284 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: this season. Here's a Titans, Bam winner winner to help 285 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: yourself to some cookies out of petty cash. People might 286 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: guess it's the Ravens, the Texans of the Jets. No, 287 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: it's the Titans, and they get to go up against 288 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: the venerable Anthony Richardson remember that one game last year? 289 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: Or Andertin Richardson drop back and sat in the pocket, 290 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: just picked apart the defense. No, neither do I. So anyway, 291 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: it's not a game I want to be involved in. 292 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: But I love the back and forth and fees. That's 293 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: why you're the two time contest winner. But I'm dubious 294 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: about both of those. I'm just being honest, my friend. 295 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: And again I make the case all this is true. 296 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: So where were your Wednesday? Everybody? If you love the 297 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: Titans to it, there you go. 298 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: Now you're making sense. 299 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: Have been smoking dope on Monday and Tuesday? You should 300 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: have been betting the Titans when they were the underdog. 301 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: Well, Fez, there's not a dot in my mind. After 302 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: you exitus Earth after one hundred and twenty glarious years, 303 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: which I believe will live to be your tombstone is 304 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: going to say, what was your closing line value? 305 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Huh? 306 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: Tell? Me what your closing line value was. 307 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: Right, and some people may not know what closing line 308 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: value even is. And basically, the efficient market hypothesis, if 309 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: we use economic terms, means that whatever the number is 310 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: that closes in the NFL right before the games start 311 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: is a pretty darn efficient number. So if you're going 312 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: to want to win, you probably want to in the 313 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: long run, have numbers for your actual bets that are 314 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: superior to that number. Now, people come over the top burning, 315 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: They'll say, well, wait, Fez, how the heck can I win? 316 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: Then right when the games are kicking off, if you 317 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: can't win against the closing numbers, and I'll respond exactly, 318 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 4: that's why you don't bet right before the games start, 319 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: thank you. 320 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: Hey. 321 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: It's real simple people. If you're going to the store, 322 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: the sporting goods store to buy tennis balls, and they're 323 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: on sale this weekend for nine to ninety nine and 324 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: they go back up to fifteen nine to nine on Monday, 325 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: what are you going to do your shopping face? 326 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if I'm playing tennis against Gil Alexander that 327 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: morning on Monday, because I gotta have balls to play. 328 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: For, you're gonna pay the extra six dollars is what 329 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: you're saying you're gonna instead at nine to ninety nine. 330 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 4: Well, obviously I need I should plan it. 331 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: By the way, Mark, Mark, get the rim shot ready, Fez. 332 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: You know there's a sale this week at at the 333 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: sporting goods store on tennis balls. Oh yeah, first come, 334 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: first serve. There you go, thanks Mark, Like, nicely done. 335 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: That's teamwork, my friend. Okay, here all week, Faz, don't 336 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: forget to try to semi bonus spaghetti tip those waiters 337 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: and waitresses. Let's go to New England, fes. By the way, 338 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: nine home dogs this week, Fesz, how do you feel 339 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: about that? All right? The New England Patriots catching seven. 340 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: By the way, the Texans start to pay a Houston tax. 341 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: I think Owen two is a road favorite. Drake May 342 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: makes his first career start. Don't look now, Fez. The 343 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: Texans have nine players on the injury report. I think 344 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: the window might be a sharp play here. 345 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, the problem is they're New England. Here's my issue. 346 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: And there are sharps that are in New England that 347 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: took the plus seven. But you can't get plus seven anymore, 348 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: Bernie tomorrow you might all right, So and When I 349 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: say get plus seven, that means if I don't say 350 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: the big that means plus seven, lay a dollar ten. 351 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: If that pops up, you're with some sharp company and 352 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: you can invest in it. But my problem, Bernie's I 353 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: really think Carolina and New England are both going to 354 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: win three games only, and because of that, my goodness, 355 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: it's going to be hard to find good spots to 356 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 4: invest in the moment of pass. 357 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: I think the books are going to need the Patriots, 358 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: but I am also passing Washington visits Baltimore in the 359 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: Beltway Battle. How's that for a literation. Ravens land six 360 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: and a half. Don't look now. The Commandos have covered 361 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: four straight. The Ravens have covered three straight. Both teams 362 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: are over machines combined eight and two to the over Washington, 363 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: number one in the NFL, averaging thirty one points a game, 364 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: twenty first rank, defensively allowing twenty three. I want nothing 365 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: to do with this game, but I know a lot 366 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 2: of people who like Baltimore. 367 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: You know, there's gonna be a lot of running from 368 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 4: Baltimore and they're probably gonna have success. I'm gonna like, 369 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: look at the prop market. I'm gonna look at props 370 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 4: for a high scoring game. Probably look towards puns under seven, 371 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: shortest touchdown under one and a half, things like that 372 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: for a game that I think both sides are going 373 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: to have success moving the ball, all right, A. 374 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: Game I'm very interested in. The Cowboys another home dog 375 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: one to nine, catching three against Detroit. The Cowboys have 376 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: only been a home underdog, well only thirteen times in 377 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: the Dak Prescott era, but they've covered nine of them, 378 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: nine and four. Lions three and one against a number 379 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: though after a bye week in the Dan Campbell era, 380 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: and not enough has talked about the Lions. They're number 381 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: three against the run defensively. I think it's going to 382 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: be a nice wrestling match. Your thoughts, So. 383 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: I make the game three point two five, which means 384 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: basically the current market is three point twenty five. There's 385 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 4: threes and there's three and a half. So if you 386 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: like Detroit, I would bet them three, and I say 387 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: minus three minus fifteen at MGM right now that you 388 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: can wager on, I bet it right now. I'm confident 389 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: this line's going to go up to three and a half. 390 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: If you like Dallas, I would wait until the game's 391 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: about to kick off. I'm equally confident you will get 392 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: those Cowboys, not only at plus three and a half, Bernie, 393 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: you might not even have to lay the full minus 394 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 4: one ten. So wait, if you're going to bet on 395 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: the Cowboys. 396 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: And what did you make that line? 397 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: Finz three point two? 398 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: Furnass burnass? You know that coin science with my GPA 399 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: back in the fourth grade for three best years of 400 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: my life. All right, we move on. Tampa Bay visits 401 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: New Orleans. Another home dog sants catching three and a half. 402 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: Here's a shocker. Derek Carr's heard, He's never heard. Oh no, 403 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: actually he's always heard. I don't like Derek Carr, never 404 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 2: really did good human being, mediocre quarterback. Last five meetings 405 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: between these two teams failed to go over thirty six 406 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: points total. So what's interesting is the totals forty one 407 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: and a half. You know, do you look to the 408 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: under in that game because Spencer Rattler makes you start. 409 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: I don't have high hopes for Spencer Ratler. 410 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: I like the under forty two. I think that's a sharp, 411 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: plain and fast. Right now at DraftKings, you can play 412 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: under forty two. 413 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 5: And a half. 414 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: All Miza dollars twelve, MISA dollar twelve. But I mean 415 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay has to feel they could be conservative, run 416 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 4: the ball more and get the victory. They're going to 417 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 4: look not to turn it over. And do we really 418 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: think Spencer Ratler is going to get twenty points for 419 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: New Orleans? 420 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: So in a game you mean, like in one game. 421 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: Twenty to seventeen last yep, that's under forty two and 422 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: a half. Let's go under. 423 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: Well, like I said, Fiz, I don't know if you 424 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: have you know this holds any credence with you, But 425 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: the last five matchups between the Bucks and Saints, none 426 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: of them have gone over thirty six. 427 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 4: My only concern, Bernie is last week the scoring's been 428 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: down in the NFL, and last week we saw an 429 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: average of fifty points scored per game. So I think 430 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: the new kickoff rules and the offense is finally improving 431 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 4: are kicking in. So I'm trying to avoid playing very 432 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: many of the unders. 433 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: All right, Fez, A game that's certain to put you 434 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: to sleep. Pittsburgh visits Las Vegas, the Raiders catching three 435 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: and as you know, Fez, the autumn wind is a pirate, 436 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: but not here in Las Vegas. Where it's ninety six degrees. 437 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: The game is played indoors, and by the way, Pittsburgh 438 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 2: was here in twenty two and twenty three covered both games, 439 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: and this time they bring Justin Fields, the world's favorite 440 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 2: quarterback presiding over a bottom five defense. You know what 441 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: a Justin Fields offense looks like to me, Fez. You 442 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: ever go to a nice restaurant, of course you do 443 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: all the time, and you get yourself a nice stake 444 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 2: when it's like fresh ground pepper with that and they 445 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: bring that big long thing and they start twisting it 446 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: and they tell me when, and they twist it and 447 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: twist and like Harley, any pepper ever comes out, and 448 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: you want to keep going, but you don't want the 449 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: poor guy to end up with Tommy John surgery. That's 450 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: what Justin Fields and the Pittsburgh offense looks like, that 451 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: yepper shaker. Your thoughts, Pittsburgh Raiders, Well. 452 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: I was thinking exactly the same thing, Bernie. It's such 453 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 4: an obvious analogy. We all think that, of course, But 454 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: I don't think Noblu has a pepper shaker, do I 455 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 4: do say this? I think there'll be thirty thousand Pittsburgh 456 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 4: Steeler fans that will take over a Legiance Stadium here 457 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: in Las Vegas, so little hidden home crowdedge for the Steelers. 458 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: That's part of the reason they're betting the Steelers currently 459 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: is another game. If you're going to bet the Steelers, 460 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: lay the three right now and get miss three at 461 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: the South Point, lay at dollar ten, it won't be 462 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: there come post I think it's going to go up 463 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: to three and a half. If you like the Raiders, 464 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: wait till the very last minute to wager. 465 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: In the game. 466 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: By the way, there's people that are listening to say, well, Fiz, 467 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: why don't you have an opinion on the game. And 468 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 4: you know what, I could just be like everyone else 469 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: in the media, like Killian in the in the movie 470 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 4: Running Man, Richard Dawt, I can lie to you and 471 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: say wrong, teams favored, or this line should be six 472 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: one is three. It's all lies lies life. These people 473 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: don't make they don't bet, seriously, they don't make a 474 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: living betting, Bernie. They're just being entertaining. I'm telling you 475 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: the truth, very very very rarely, isn't any NFL line 476 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 4: off by more than one point come the weekend. 477 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: I'll go this way, Faz pick winners. If you pick winners, 478 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: you cover seventy two percent of the time. But that's 479 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: a conversation for a different day. Carolina another home dog, 480 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 2: catching six at home against Atlanta. Panthers are one and 481 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: four against the number this season. They've never been favored 482 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: once all season and they're not Sundy your thoughts. 483 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: You know, I do want to address the whole picking 484 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: winners things, because obviously every time the underdog wins out right, 485 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: which is going to happen, you know what's right, they're 486 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: going to automatically cover. So that's like any so any 487 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: game that's lined like one or two, if you pick 488 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 4: the winner, of course they're going to cover, you know, 489 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 4: whether you know the money line or the spread. So 490 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: it's a little misleading. It doesn't work so well with it. 491 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: To the only point I'm trying to make is seventy 492 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: two percent of the time the number doesn't come into play, 493 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: you either cover, right. You can't be a fish better, 494 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: you can't. I think Pittsburgh will win, but I wont 495 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: with my three. You know, I. 496 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: Actually would lean Atlanta in this game because the I 497 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 4: just think the dead cat bounce happened with the red 498 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: rifle and Carolina five guys injured on the defense. They 499 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: got shredded again last week. So I think that Cousins 500 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: and company team total over twenty six and a half 501 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 4: is probably a good way to invest in this game. 502 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: Also, all right, three more to go, Cincinnati visits the Giants, 503 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: Giants catching three and a half, another home dog. Giants 504 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 2: have now covered three straight games, but the Bengals only 505 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: one and two against a number is a favorite this year. 506 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: But here's here's the kicker fizz all four losses of 507 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: the Bengals this year by a total of fifteen points. 508 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 2: I feel like this is a get right game for Cincinnati. 509 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: You know what's interesting is the Bengals were laying three 510 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 4: and a half against Carolina. Well, the Giants are a 511 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 4: lot better than Carolina, not just a little bit better, 512 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: and the Bengals are still three and a half. I 513 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: would have looked to the Giants, but Neighbors, the rookie 514 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: wide receiver is so good and he's going to be 515 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: out and because of that, I think this line will 516 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 4: go up to four. Gun to my head. If I 517 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: had to wager, I late three and a half on 518 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 4: the Bengals. I hate playing road favorites. 519 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: Though. All right, a game that I am quite sure 520 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: if as will be top of mind for most survivor betters. 521 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: Philly lane nine and a half at home against the 522 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: lovable Cleveland Browns. They brank their thirtieth ranked offense, uh 523 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, putting up on a massive two hundred and 524 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: thirty nine yards per game. I think it's a good 525 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: teaser play for Philadelphia to get it down below three. 526 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: Beyond that, I don't know if I'd be wanting him 527 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: to do with this game. 528 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this points spread has dropped, like at DraftKings 529 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 4: right now, it's mine eight and a half. The time 530 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: to tease. I actually think it's possible some pros came 531 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: in and just they just bet Cleveland plus nine because 532 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 4: they wanted it to go to eight and a half 533 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: so they could load up on a bunch of teasers. 534 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: So this would be my best bet. I would tease Philly, 535 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: this is a DraftKings lining better right now? You late 536 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: eight and a half down to my two and a half. 537 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: You cannot tease the Mius three. It has to go 538 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: to miles two and a half. I'll explain later. No, 539 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: I won't just go read Stanford Wong's book Sharp Sports Betting. 540 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 4: He'll explain it to you at Sharp Sports Betting. I 541 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 4: need a dancing partner. I'm going to partner up with 542 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: the Monday Night football game. I'm gonta take the Jets 543 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: from plus two up to plus eight as the second 544 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: leg of my six point minus one twenty NFL teaser. 545 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: So Jets catching two and a half our final game 546 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: on the board here, Fez. Believe it or not. They've 547 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 2: covered three of their last four versus Buffalo. Remember they 548 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 2: beat Buffalo last year with Zach Wilson. An interesting oddity 549 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: in this game. Not an oddity but a factoid. New coaches. 550 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 2: New coach beat the new coach. I don't know if 551 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: he's the same as the old boss. First game, they 552 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 2: cover fifty eight percent of the time. Bills are allowing 553 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four yards on the grand per 554 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: game the stupid Jets. The problem though, is they passed 555 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: sixty eight percent of the time. I look for them 556 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: to be more balanced. Monday Night brishall paging, Brisall more Bresall. 557 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: I feel like the Jets win this game out right, 558 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: says am I wrong. 559 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 4: I like your Brietall prop I can't I apologize. I 560 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 4: can't recall the number I played, but I did play 561 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: him over for his number of rushes. I'm gonna tease 562 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: the Jets. Mathematically, it's almost always better to tease the 563 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: plus two to two and a half than to play 564 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 4: the plus two two and a half, and I tease 565 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: them with the Eagles. However, should you want to bet 566 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 4: against the Jets, I'm going to give you an opportunity. 567 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 4: The following week, Bernie, the Jets are at Pittsburgh. Remember 568 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: the Jets were just in London week five, so week 569 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 4: six they're playing for the divisional championship with the brand 570 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: new coach. Week seven, the flat spot hits. The Pittsburgh 571 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: Steelers minus one are hosting the Jets, so look ahead 572 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: week seven, get on the Steelers, but on the Jets 573 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: and the teaser this week, but against them next week. 574 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: And you gotta bet at now because the Steelers miss won, 575 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: that number won't be there come Sunday night. 576 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: It'll be more like. 577 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: Two to two and a half. 578 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: I would predicts great stuff. As always, any final thoughts. 579 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 4: Write down all the points spreads each and every week 580 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: on Monday, all right, and then write them again come 581 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 4: Saturday night Sunday, and never ever, almost never ever play 582 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: a number like the Tennessee Titans minus two most two 583 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: and a half when you could have played them plus one. 584 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: Value is everything. 585 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: That's great stuff as always enjoy your Sonny, my man. 586 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: Thank you, Bernie. 587 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: Are you in favor of the NFL adding an eighteenth 588 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: regular season game. We'll tell you what the players say, 589 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: but first let's go to our guy a chef with 590 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: the latest. 591 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, Bernie, we got one game going on still in 592 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: at college football is number seventeen. Boise Stay out on 593 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 6: the Islands of Hawaii leading the Rainbow Warriors twenty eight 594 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 6: to seven. As this game all but over. They got 595 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 6: less than two minutes ago out in Honolulu. Everything else 596 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 6: has concluded going final and not too long ago out 597 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 6: in Boulder. This is a crazy one, especially in that 598 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 6: fourth quarter of a I'm eighteen. Kansas State hangs on 599 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 6: for a thirty one to twenty eight win against Colorado. 600 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 6: The bus took the lead with about three minutes ago 601 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 6: after getting an interception, but the Wildcats came right back 602 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 6: for the victory. This is one of the best days 603 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 6: of the season in college football and arguably the game 604 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: of the year was over in Eugene. 605 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Here we go, six. 606 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 7: Seconds left from the after the five yard credily the 607 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 7: thirty eight yard line of Oregon, Howard steps back to throw, 608 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 7: looks right, pump fake. 609 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: Now we'll run and have Roben hooks down at the 610 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: twenty eight yard liven o'clock has run out. The clock 611 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: has run. 612 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 6: Out, Ohio State coming up just short there as Oregon 613 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 6: wins it thirty two to thirty one. So you gotta 614 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 6: wonder exactly who might be the number one team. That's 615 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 6: because Texas took care of business in the Red Rivel rivalry, 616 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 6: the top rank Longhorns demolishing Oklahoma the eighteen three Sooners 617 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 6: thirty four to three. So it is certainly be an 618 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 6: interesting debate when the rankings are released as to who 619 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 6: the number one team in the country will be. Elsewhere 620 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 6: in college football, number four Penn State and USC the 621 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 6: Trojans blowing a twenty to six haftime lead as the 622 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 6: Lions come back and win it in overtime at thirty 623 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: three to thirty. Number seven Alabama surviving twenty seven to 624 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 6: twenty five against South Carolina, Number eight Tennessee. They trailed 625 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 6: Florida ten to nothing in the third quarter, but they 626 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 6: come back for an overtime win, twenty three to seventeen. 627 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 6: Number thirteen. LSU gets by number nine Ole Miss twenty 628 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 6: nine to twenty six, Number eighteen or number twenty two. 629 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 6: Pitt held on for a seventeen fifteen victory against Cal 630 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 6: Number twenty three Illinois fifty to forty nine win against Purdue. 631 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 2: Back to you, Burney, All right, Jeff. Coming up the 632 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: NFL players, they say they need something. If you're even 633 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: going to have any designs about an eighteenth game, you 634 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: know the fans want it. You know Goodell wants it. 635 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: Let's tell you what the players want. Coming up, I'm 636 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle or coming to your line from Las Vegas, 637 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Tarrac dot Com studios. Keep it locked. 638 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 639 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 640 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio. 641 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: We are coming to you live from the Tyraq dot 642 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: Com studios here in Las Vegas, and we'll take you 643 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: up to three in Pacific, six am easter, and we 644 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: are just getting started. So much to get to we 645 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: will dive back into the NFL. Remember we've got our 646 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: certainly have got our new editions of what kind of 647 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: brand new fool you followed by what my name? And 648 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: much much more. We will touch upon the Robert Sala 649 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: thing and what a weird week it was for Week 650 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: five and how that leads us into week six, and 651 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: have my thoughts on Aaron Rodgers probably get the crew 652 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: involved in that, but I want to remind a soul 653 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: buddy football fans. I'll be sure to tune into Fox 654 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: Sports Radio every Sunday morning, beginning at ten am Eastern, 655 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: seven am Pacific for Contown to Kickoff, presented by betmgm, 656 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, and professional better Bill Krackenberger. My man, 657 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: although have you covered three hours before kickoff? Every Sunday morning, 658 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: listen to Countdown to Kickoff presented by bettmgm right here 659 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app. We 660 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: all want more football. Nobody I've ever talked to says 661 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: they want less football. And the handwriting is on the 662 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: wall NFL owners. They want to eventually expand the regular 663 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: season from seventeen games to eighteen show be a time 664 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: where the owners didn't get what they want, so it 665 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: seems like a matter of win, not if we see 666 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: an eighteenth game. Now, keep in mind the current collective 667 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: bargaining agreement runs through twenty thirty. But I think behind 668 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: the scenes, in twos and threes and hush tones, many owners, 669 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: many officials, leaders of the NFL, the players Association, they've 670 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: already begun preliminary discussions on what an eighteen game season 671 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: might look like, what kind of concessions each side would 672 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: have to make to make such a change. But having 673 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 2: said all that, from what I'm hearing, the two sides 674 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: are nowhere close to an agreement on what that might 675 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: look like. Now. Recently, there was a there was an 676 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: anonymous player poll simply asking the question, are you in 677 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 2: favor of the NFL adding an eighteenth regular season game? 678 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: You might find this interesting? Seventy four percent did not 679 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 2: answer yes. Now, to break that down, about sixty percent 680 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: said no, and fourteen percent said they were undecided. Twenty 681 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: six percent said yes. The ones who said no, it 682 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: was not no hell no, F no F no, F no, 683 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: F no. They don't like it. Some even went on 684 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: to say, nah, I don't think the money's worth it 685 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: at this point, and since it might not even affect 686 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: the playoff bracket. One more extra game is not going 687 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: to affect the playoff bracket, whatever the hell that means. 688 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: These are quotes. More football sounds great to fans and 689 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: owners because it is. I mean, look, you're going to 690 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: have a Super Bowl next year. They's played like a 691 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: February twentieth, so this year, I think it's on February ninth. 692 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: It's a long season, long season. But what's happening now 693 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: is there's sort of this realization they're coming to terms 694 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 2: of the fact the players barely make it through seventeen games. 695 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: So when you add an eighteenth you don't really know 696 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: what type of implications that's going to have long term 697 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: because you see guys they have high usage rates one year, 698 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 2: then the whole next year they battle injuries. There's an 699 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: up and down physically situation. It's probably just too much. 700 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: We don't know. There was a time they only played 701 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: fourteen games. Remember if there was also a time they 702 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 2: played six preseason games. There's a time they only played 703 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 2: twelve games in the NFL. But then all of a sudden, 704 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: they see the money. Both sides see the money, and 705 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: now you weigh do you take a chance on losing 706 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: star players, the injuries, but look at the money. And 707 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 2: by the way, one even one player, I don't know 708 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: how Sincereo was said he was concerned that perhaps if 709 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: you expand to schedule eighteen, that might diminish your water 710 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: down the magnitude of each game, and this player went 711 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 2: on to say, quote, now, think about this, this is 712 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: pretty good insight. What makes football great is that there 713 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: are so few games. They play once a week, and 714 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: each game matters, like ten baseball games and five basketball games, 715 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: so they all matter. Seventeen's kind of nice because nobody's 716 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: going to be five hundred or not doing ties anymore. 717 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 2: You're either over five hundred or you're under five hundred. 718 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 2: Although that's not technically true. We're not doing ties in 719 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: the there can be ties, but the bottom line is 720 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: one of the players also said, if this ever does happen, well, 721 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 2: then we're going to have to mandate grass fields across 722 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 2: the league. See because the players, and they're not wrong, 723 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: they always take issue with the NFL claiming that they 724 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: really do care about player safety. It all sounds good, 725 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 2: but they also hear about owners wanting additional games. But 726 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: they also understand the driving factor behind the decision. See look, 727 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 2: Roger Goodell had a stated goal when he took over 728 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 2: the league back in twenty oh six. I think it 729 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: was from Paul Tagliabu. He wants to grow this league 730 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: into a twenty five billion dollar industry, and they're on 731 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: their way to doing it. The NFL is all about 732 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: making money, printing money. They're gonna add another game. It's 733 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: gonna happen, and what that means there'll be more money 734 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 2: coming in. How much get to the players. The player 735 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head. Let's go right to 736 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: the essence. Let's go right to the apex of this issue. 737 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: The NFL is all about making money. Not conversely, the 738 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: players want to increase their earning potential as well. Because 739 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: of that mutual desire. Even players who strongly oppose the 740 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: idea of expanding to eighteen games, they acknowledge it's just 741 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: a matter of time. They may have to relent if 742 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 2: you want to grow their portion of the economic pie 743 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 2: as well. When players said quote, I get it, it's 744 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: the money side. You don't get the money why you 745 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: can just keep adding games, but that they can ask 746 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: more wear and tear in the body if they're going 747 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 2: to make an eighteenth game, They're going to have to 748 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: change something somewhere. I'll be curious to see what that 749 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 2: would be. I don't know. You add a second bye week, 750 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: whatever it is. Players currently receive about forty eight point 751 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: eight percent of all revenue and the owners take in 752 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: the remaining fifty two or fifty one point two. And 753 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: I think what would get this done is if this 754 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: that change the split. Now, players are also asked to 755 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: follow a question is what the NFL would really need 756 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 2: need to do to accommodate that eighteenth game. The most 757 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: common answer an additional bye week, also reduced the preseason 758 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 2: on offseason schedule, and of course more money. I remember, 759 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: none of this may happen till twenty thirty. Some of 760 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: the players playing right now might even be here. But 761 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: it's worth talking about because the NFL has built a 762 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 2: machine that can only go forward, and we're all going 763 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 2: along for the ride. Coming up, we jumped to the NBA, 764 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: but Dina Magic, keep it locked. You're listening to the 765 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Yup, that's right, 766 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: you heard the man Bernie fraddleshow keeps rolling right along. 767 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frattle. We are coming toy line 768 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 2: from the tyrat dot com studios here in Las Vegas, 769 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio tyrack dot com. We'll help you get 770 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: there done. Matched selection, fast, free shipping for your road 771 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: and as it protection in over ten thousand recommended installers 772 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: tyrack dot com the way tire buying should be. It 773 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: is October thirteenth, in nine days, we have a brand 774 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: new NBA season and storylines are already for three words, 775 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 2: It's that time time for Little Medina Magic every Saturday night, 776 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: midnight Pacific time on the Bernie Frattle Show. Fifty two 777 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: weeks out of the year. Mark here we go. The 778 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 2: future always has a way of arriving ahead of the schedule. 779 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: And of course at October twenty second, we've got a 780 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: brand new NBA season. 781 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, brand new NBA season. We got the whole of 782 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 5: same induction today lot you get preseason basketball. We can 783 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 5: really go anywhere with us. 784 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: Well, I hate to start with this story, but I 785 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 2: almost have to, because I guarantee you we'll take up 786 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: all the air in the room. We are hearing now 787 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: from pretty darn good sources that we're going to be 788 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: seeing history opening night when the Minnesota timber Buls visit 789 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: the Lakers at Crypto dot Com Arena that they're going 790 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: to waste no time. Lebron and Brownie will be the 791 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: first father son duo to share the court, of course, 792 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: in a regular season NBA game. And I don't know 793 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: if you missed it last week, it was a real banger. 794 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: Bronni in his two appearances. I think he had a 795 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 2: total of about nine minutes, was minus twenty eight and 796 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 2: the plus minus look completely lost in my opinion, You 797 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 2: got the floor. 798 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I certainly didn't miss it because I was 799 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 5: there in person when Bronni and Lebron made that debut. 800 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 5: I got the Phoenix Suns in Pump Springs, California. I 801 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 5: want to be surprised that the reports are accurate that 802 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 5: he will play Opening night, but I will caution I 803 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 5: don't think it's going to be a long time. I mean, 804 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 5: we have to keep in mind that when they made 805 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 5: that preseason debut, and it was only preseason, Lebron and 806 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 5: Browny played a combined four minutes together and during that 807 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 5: stretch the Suns went on a run. Yeah, now it's preseason, 808 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 5: doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Even 809 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 5: though regular season games aren't the same as playoff games. Coaches, 810 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 5: especially our first year head coach like JJ Reddick, know 811 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 5: how precious those minutes are. So I think if and 812 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 5: when that happens in the regular season A, it's going 813 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 5: to be a really short and be the G League 814 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 5: is going to start early November, and so his ability 815 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 5: to be able to even make any token appearances is 816 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 5: really only going to be for the first aid games. 817 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 5: So no, it's a. 818 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 2: Good point, and I would just say this, and they 819 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 2: may then be on the court thirty seconds. That may 820 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: be twenty nine seconds too long, but at least it 821 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 2: will have made history. Lebron will have gotten his wish, 822 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: and I don't know if bronill ever be in the 823 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: NBA again. I listen, this isn't funny anymore. I got 824 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 2: nothing against the kid. He's a class kid, although he 825 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 2: does say dumb things. I really wouldn't think of my 826 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: dad on the floor. Come on, don't do that, of 827 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 2: course you were. The second thing is I think he 828 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 2: plays hard, he tries. He's not an NBA player, and 829 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 2: everybody can see it, all right, So I think we 830 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: need to get through this charade and get on with 831 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: our lives and you know you can respond to any 832 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: of that or none of that. 833 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, I don't feel the same level of outrage 834 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 5: with us because it's preseason and we see a lot 835 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 5: of training camp invites undrafted players that are just trying 836 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 5: to get on people's radar, that are playing in NBA games, 837 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 5: and you know they're not NBA ready, And so I 838 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 5: think again, because of this, the fact that he's in 839 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 5: that he's going to be in the G League, I'm 840 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 5: not I don't feel as strongly now if the Lakers 841 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 5: were downplaying him playing in G League, if Browny was 842 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 5: skolfant the idea of playing G League, I would feel 843 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 5: something different. But uh, this is going to be very 844 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 5: short lived. And if you do want to see Browne, 845 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,240 Speaker 5: you're going to have to see him play in the 846 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 5: only the Lakers practice facility where they play with the 847 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 5: South Bay Lakers. 848 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: Look. Just to set the records straight, I have no 849 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 2: beef with the Lakers wanting to accommodate Lebron in this 850 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 2: lifelong wish, none whatsoever do it. I'm trying to hold 851 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 2: two thoughts concurrently, he's not an NBA player and he's 852 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 2: not going to be one. Okay, and then a lot 853 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: of these other undrafted players had far more better resumes 854 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: in college, and rather than go down there, let's just 855 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 2: see how it plays out. You know, maybe he'll average 856 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 2: a triple triple and make a liar out of me. 857 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: Then again, maybe Led Zeppelin and record the Gillians Allen 858 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 2: theme song and syllableion copies by Tuesday. But I digress. 859 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's move along. One of the subjects that 860 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: came up this week mark was the fact that apparently 861 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: a lot of NBA gms want the apron rules changed. 862 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: We've talked about this at length, but the commissioner I 863 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 2: don't think he's going to go for it. He says 864 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 2: he believes it truly helps parody. Where are you aig 865 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 2: in on this? 866 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that they're going to change. I mean, secondly, 867 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 5: the NBA Players Union agreed to this. Maybe there are 868 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 5: some buyers remorse out of this, but you know, the 869 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 5: NBA is doing this because they do want to increase parody. 870 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 5: And you know, even though there are certain general managers 871 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 5: that don't like this, these are the general managers that 872 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 5: are on teams that are willing to go over the 873 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 5: luxury tax and are high spending teams, the teams that 874 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 5: are in smaller markets and don't have a big budgets. 875 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 5: They like these second Apron rules because even though it 876 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 5: makes it more and more challenging to build a roster 877 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 5: and keep it, it does, in their mind bridge the 878 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 5: division between the halves and the have nots. But you know, 879 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 5: I think at some point the second Apron will come 880 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 5: home to roost. Really, I think when a team like 881 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 5: Oklahoma City suddenly has to confront the fact that they 882 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 5: have a young roster and everyone's due for an extension 883 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden it's not sustainable to retain 884 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 5: those players. Now, that doesn't happen, I think in about 885 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 5: two years. But I do think at some point it 886 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 5: will be revisited, just not now, only because it has 887 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 5: an affected small market teams. So far, it's been large 888 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 5: market and I think because of that, you know, there's 889 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 5: not as much sympathy for them. 890 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 2: Talk with Mark Medina, Medina managing every Saturday night here 891 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: on The Bernie Frider Show, twelve midnight Pacific time. I'm 892 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 2: glad you mentioned the Hall of Fame. It's not an 893 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: NBA Hall of Fame and Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of 894 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 2: Fame one player Dianeering. Dear to my heart, I covered 895 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: them in two thousand and four and two thousand and 896 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 2: five Pistons. Chauncey Billups was part of the class. I 897 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 2: believe thirteen members got inducted, Mark, is that true? 898 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, third team members you mentioned Chauncey Bills. Jerry West 899 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 5: was inducted a third time, this time as a contributor 900 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 5: for his amazing track record as a general manager. I 901 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 5: think he's the best executive ever in NBA history. And 902 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 5: then yeah, Michael Cooper, he's with the Showtime Lakers. I'm 903 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 5: trying to think who else Herb Simon was a contributor. 904 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 5: Doug Collins. You know, we all know him as the 905 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 5: coach that coach Michael Jordan before Phil Jackson. So yeah, 906 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 5: there's a lot of good headliners. We have Chauncey Billups 907 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 5: well deserving part of that two thousand and four Pistons team. 908 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 5: And you know, I know that he's had some early 909 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 5: rough selettings as a Blazers coach. I think there's a 910 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 5: pathway for him to be successful for the same reason 911 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 5: he was a successful player, very small player, knew how 912 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 5: to get the best out of teammates and was just 913 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 5: competitive as hell. 914 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: I want to bring up a name from the past, 915 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 2: but I know you would know this name well. And 916 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: first of all, he was a very good friend of 917 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 2: my good buddy Dave Meyers, Rest his soul. They both 918 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 2: played together at ECLA and for the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm 919 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 2: talking about Marcus Johnson. He's been a finalist three of 920 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: the past six years, five time All Star. He was 921 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 2: a legend to ECLA. I know he had injuries, so 922 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: his statistics weren't superb, but he helped john win in to 923 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: his final championship in nineteen seventy five, and two years 924 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: later he was National Player of the Year. What is 925 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 2: keeping Marcus Johnson out of the Hall of Fame. 926 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 5: Well, I don't mean to be evasive about this, but 927 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 5: it's just the reality. No one really knows anything on 928 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 5: what the criteria is for a player being inducted or not, 929 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 5: because one we don't even know who's part of the committee, 930 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 5: and two they never share the criteria. So I think 931 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 5: what happens is two things. Unless you are, you know, 932 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 5: an annual All Star player that's won multiple championships, you're 933 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 5: always going to be vulnerable toward, you know, being passed 934 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 5: when you're first eligible after five years of your retirement. 935 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 5: That's number one. Number two. The longer you do wait, 936 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 5: there is a danger that the contemporaries that could advocate 937 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 5: you for you are no longer around to vouch for you, 938 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 5: or just aren't even if they are around, just aren't 939 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 5: in the same kind of limelight as the more modern 940 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 5: people attached to either the NBA or college basketball. So 941 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 5: I don't know if either of those two things fully 942 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 5: answer his exclusion, but generally that's usually what it comes 943 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 5: down to. 944 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: Back when we are on the radio and Detroit, we 945 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 2: would talk about whether or not this is in two 946 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: thousand and four, if Joe Dumars would be in the 947 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, and we had this running punchline. And 948 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: I don't say this disrespectfully or in the puture in 949 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 2: any way. This is our punchline. K Yaw is in 950 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. She was a female coach at 951 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: North Carolina State, very accomplished, wasn't inducted until she was sixty. Okay, 952 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 2: k Yaw is in the Hall of Fame. Now, you 953 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 2: bring up a great point. We don't really know what 954 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 2: the criteria is but I always fall on the word fame. 955 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: It's the Hall of Fame, and I feel like what 956 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,320 Speaker 2: Marcus Johnson did between his time at UCLA and the 957 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks fell into that category. I guess that's just 958 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 2: my final thought of the matter. 959 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I mean, look, you mentioned Joe Jumark. He 960 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 5: wasn't inducted until two thousand and six, and obviously everyone 961 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 5: knew him as a really good defender Finals MVP in 962 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 5: one of the Pistons championship teams. And that's probably another 963 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 5: third criteria that if you will are on a championship 964 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 5: eighten team that has, you know, multiple Hall of Famers, 965 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 5: multiple Hall Start caliber players, but you're not the number one, 966 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 5: number two guy, sometimes you fall on exclusion. 967 00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: Here. 968 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 5: You look at Michael Cooper for example. I mean, I 969 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 5: think on one hand, there was some reaction on why 970 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 5: did he get in the Hall of Fame. He was 971 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 5: never a Hall he was never an All Star player, 972 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 5: he rarely started. But on the other hand, he would say, well, 973 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 5: he won Defensive Player of the Year, he was on 974 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 5: a defensive first team, you know, I think eight times, 975 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 5: second team five times, but he didn't get in until 976 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 5: this year because he was on the Showtime Lakers, and 977 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 5: people instinctively thought of Kareem abdul Jabbar, Magic Johnson and 978 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 5: James Worthy and Jamal Wilks first before Michael Cooper. So 979 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 5: you know, that's that's probably another factor that certainly explained 980 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 5: to Joe Dumars delaying possibly others. 981 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 2: What it's worth in Cooper was a key cog in 982 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 2: those Showtime teams, the Cooper loop that Magic would throw. 983 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 2: He was one of the first pretty good three point 984 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 2: shooters too, So yeah, it's a good a lot all right. 985 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 2: Moving along, there are two players I've got my eye 986 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 2: on that will both be with new teams, Paul George 987 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 2: with the Sixers, Clayton Thompson with the MAVs. All of 988 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 2: those two, who do you think has the greater impact 989 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 2: on his team in this upcoming season? 990 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,919 Speaker 5: Well, I think it would be Paul George. I think 991 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 5: by two things. One, Paul George is the number two option, 992 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 5: plays the number three option. I think Paula George is 993 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 5: still seen as an All Star caliber player even though 994 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 5: both players have a lot of questions about their health 995 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 5: and durability. You know, Paula George still plays both ends 996 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 5: of the floor. He produces at a high level. Clay 997 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 5: basically since his Achilles and ACL injury, he hasn't been 998 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 5: the same player. I still think he's played a high level, 999 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 5: but he hasn't played an all Star caliber level. And 1000 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 5: I think most notably, he hasn't been the same kind 1001 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 5: of defensive player that he once was. But with the Mavericks, 1002 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 5: he's playing with Luka Dacic and Kyrie Irving, so one 1003 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 5: that puts some less pressure off of them too. He's 1004 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,280 Speaker 5: probably going to get even more open shots than arguably 1005 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 5: what he would have even gotten playing with Steph Curry. 1006 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 5: But I think, you know, I talked with some other 1007 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 5: you know, basketball minds, executives and coaches before training camp, 1008 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 5: and a lot of them weren't really high on Dallas, 1009 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 5: even though they got to the finals last season. The 1010 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 5: main thing that they had their questions on is who's 1011 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 5: going to defend. I mean, they think that PJ. Washington 1012 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 5: and Derek Wiway the second are great defenders, great rim protectors, 1013 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 5: and PJ. Washington can be a wing player, But as 1014 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 5: far as that back court goes, Luca Doctors and Kyrie 1015 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 5: Irving aren't great defenders, and usually Clay fulfilled that role. 1016 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 5: There's skepticism on whether he can do that. I know 1017 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 5: Claia said that, you know, one of the many sources 1018 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 5: of motivation this season is to prove that he can 1019 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 5: be that player. But you know, I think that he'll 1020 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 5: be successful. But I think when you're comparing to Paul George, 1021 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 5: Paul George is going to have a much bigger impact 1022 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 5: because he's expected to do a lot more. He's going 1023 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 5: to have a bigger role, and there's I guess relatively 1024 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 5: fewer question marks about his availability and effectiveness. 1025 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 2: Last one for me, Mark, there's no doubt that the 1026 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 2: NBA has expanded its global footprint. Now you've got games 1027 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 2: in Abu Dabi, You're gonna have regular season games in 1028 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 2: Mexico City, and he's had him in Paris. It's been 1029 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: five years now since Darryl Morey had his message on 1030 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: social media and the NBA hasn't really been back to 1031 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: China since. I understand Adam Silver's working on getting the 1032 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 2: NBA back into China. Can you speak to. 1033 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 5: That, Yeah, well, I mean Adam Silver, you know, basically 1034 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 5: was on record saying that he said that he believes 1035 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 5: the NBA will have preseason games in China, and now 1036 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 5: he didn't say an exact year, but you know, when 1037 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 5: you look at the fact that prior to twenty nineteen 1038 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 5: they had preseason games there. But I think basically since 1039 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 5: two thousand and four, they're very well aware that the 1040 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 5: NBA has an international market and it's very popular in Asia, 1041 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 5: very popular in China, and it's a matter of if 1042 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 5: not when and now, you know, when it comes to 1043 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 5: China controversy and obviously the political climate and you know, 1044 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 5: the China's human rights records, it does fly in the 1045 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 5: face of the NBA's you know, normal stance of you know, 1046 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 5: wanting to be an advocate for domestic social justice issues 1047 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 5: and promoting you know, player initiatives to speak out on that. 1048 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,319 Speaker 5: But I will say, at the same time, any expectation 1049 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 5: that the NBA is the face of, you know, confronting 1050 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 5: China for their track records a little bit hypocritical because 1051 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 5: you look at really any multinational company in the US 1052 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 5: they do business with China. A lot of the products 1053 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 5: we consume come from China. But you know, there is 1054 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 5: a delicate dance and some double standards of the NBA 1055 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 5: faces because of how they feel about other issues. 1056 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 2: All right, Mark good stuff. We're itching closer to a 1057 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 2: new season. I'm looking very much forward to it at and 1058 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 2: looking forward to your continued coverage on the Bernie Fraddle Show. 1059 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 5: Always a good time to shot NBA with you, my friend. 1060 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 2: All right, thanks so much, Mark, appreciate you man. It's 1061 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 2: Mark Medina, our NBA Fox Sports Radio guru. Clearly has 1062 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 2: his finger on the pulse. Is in the subject matter 1063 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 2: we don't tackle that he can't go in depth with 1064 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 2: and we're nine days away from a new season. I'm 1065 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I think it's going to be 1066 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 2: a pretty darn good NBA season, including me in season tournament, 1067 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,320 Speaker 2: and we'll see what shakes out. The Bernie Fraddle Show continues. 1068 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're coming to your life from the 1069 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot Com studios. Keep 1070 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: it lox, you're listening to the Bernie Fraddles Show on 1071 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show, 1072 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Come to live from the tarret dot 1073 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 2: Com studios here in Las Vegas. In case you missed it, 1074 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 2: you're hiding under a rock or on Planet Mars. Robert 1075 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 2: Sala was relieved of his duties head coach of the 1076 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 2: New York Jets Tuesday. Remember four years ago at that 1077 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,760 Speaker 2: introductory press conference, he said, get used to quote all gas, 1078 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 2: no break, all gas. Well, he definitely passed a lot 1079 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 2: of gas the last four years. And uh, it just 1080 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: ended badly. And look, I got nothing against Robert Sala. 1081 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 2: I think he's a good man. I think he was 1082 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 2: in over his head as an NFL head coach, good 1083 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. He'll get other opportunities there. Uh. You know, 1084 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,800 Speaker 2: remember in the Sopranos when Uncle Junior used to bust 1085 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 2: Tony Soprano's balls, he would say, you know, you never 1086 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 2: had the makings of a varsity player, never had, never 1087 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 2: had the makings and really bothered Tony Soprano. Sala never 1088 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 2: really had the makings of an NFL head coach. You know, 1089 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 2: there's an old saying you can buy dance lessons, but 1090 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: you can't buy rhythm. He just didn't have the rhythm. 1091 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: He saw it in his relationship with Aaron Rodgers was strained. 1092 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 2: It was quite obvious. You know, the bro hug that 1093 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 2: wapping up, that failed, the clunky press conferences talking about 1094 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 2: mandatory mini camps and trips to Egypt, and then the 1095 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,479 Speaker 2: Caden thing last week. And look, then of course Aaron 1096 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 2: Rodgers was asked if he had anything to do with it, 1097 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 2: and he gave us the Babe in the Woods routine. 1098 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 2: So it comes down to leadership. Look, leadership is influence 1099 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 2: based on trust the urn. That's my definition of leadership. 1100 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 2: It always has been. I don't think Sala had the 1101 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 2: trust of just about anybody. And we're talking about an 1102 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 2: organization that's been top ten in scoring once in the 1103 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 2: last twenty years. It's where they do they hire another 1104 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: defensive coach. I'm talking about Sala zero offensive experience in 1105 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 2: eighteen years of coaching. They made it clear they just 1106 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: wanted him to be a CEO type responsible for the 1107 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 2: entire team, kind of like Nick Sirianni. First thing out 1108 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,960 Speaker 2: of the gate, he hires Micha Lafleur and Jeff Olbrich 1109 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 2: from Floor ran the offense. Ulbrich ran the defense. Didn't 1110 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: take long. They're fairly well realized Robert Sala really was 1111 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 2: not to the task. Now Ubric's defense thrive. And by 1112 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 2: the way, Lafleur, who is now the Rams offensive coordinator, 1113 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 2: was gone by twenty twenty three after two years of 1114 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 2: Zach and Wilson tried that again. Zach Wilson induced failure. Now, 1115 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: it was critical that Sala nail his next tire, because, 1116 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 2: like you know, say, Dan Campbell, he nailed it with 1117 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Dan Quinn nailed it with Cliff Kingsbury. What 1118 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 2: ad salad do? Are you kidding me? He replaced Lafleur 1119 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 2: with Nathaniel Hackett, fresh after what Sean Payton had called 1120 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 2: Hackett as one of the worst head coaching tenures in 1121 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 2: NFL history. Somehow, Hackett helped New York Land Aaron Rodgers, sure, 1122 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 2: but did nothing else to make an offense that finished 1123 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 2: each of Sala's three seasons bottom ten and scoring their 1124 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: twenty fifth This year, offense remains the problem. They ranked 1125 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: twenty seventh in total yards per game, lasted rushing, the 1126 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 2: offensive line's been awful, and passed protection. Other than that, 1127 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 2: Missus Lincoln hally Hell was the play. Despite all of that, 1128 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: if the Jets, who are two and three, beat the 1129 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 2: Bills at home on Monday night, they will be leading 1130 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 2: the AFC East. Yes, Sala had to be the scapegoat. 1131 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 2: He was a one ill responsible. Frankly, he didn't hold 1132 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett to the standards. He preached on day one 1133 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 2: about all gas, no breaks and by the way, it's 1134 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 2: not leaking out. And I think these are things you 1135 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 2: probably already know. They describe Nathaniel Hackett as a guy 1136 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 2: who really lacks detail, lacks attention to detail, and he's 1137 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 2: not real good at making in game adjustments. Finally, I 1138 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 2: think it's pretty obvious Salah was losing the locker room. 1139 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 2: And even Quincy Williams said, I'm gonna be honest, people 1140 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 2: get tired of hearing the same old ish there was 1141 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: no accountability, goodbye no By the way, why well Nathaniel 1142 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 2: Hackett remains because you got to appease Aaron Rodgers. Right, 1143 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 2: Monday Night's game is huge for the Jets, and man, 1144 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see it all Right, coming up, 1145 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 2: we had a huge event here Wednesday night. A building 1146 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 2: that had been here sixty seven years was home to 1147 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 2: Sinatra on the rat pack. Muhammad Ali trained there. I'm 1148 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 2: talking about the Tropicana. It's no longer bringing A gentleman 1149 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 2: who was there witnessed it in person twenty two amazing seconds. 1150 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 2: But first we go to our guy, the chef, Kevin Wyrett, 1151 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 2: with the. 1152 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 6: Least Yeah, Bernie College football probably one of the biggest 1153 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 6: weekends of the year, and we had the game of 1154 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 6: the year in Eugene and it certainly lived up to 1155 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 6: the hyde. 1156 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 7: Here we go, six seconds left from the after the 1157 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 7: five yard penalty the thirty eight yard line of Oregon, 1158 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 7: Howard steps back to pro looks right, pump fake, now 1159 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 7: you'll run and half Robin hooks down at the twenty eight. 1160 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Yard lubit o'clock has run out. The clock has run out. 1161 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 6: That was Jerry Allen on the Oregon Sports Network from 1162 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 6: lear Field as the Ducks holding off Number two Ohio 1163 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 6: State to win it thirty two to thirty one, and 1164 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 6: Number one Texas steam rolls Number eighteen. 1165 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma thirty four to three. 1166 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 6: So it'll certainly be a discussion on who the top 1167 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 6: team in the country is going to be when the 1168 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 6: rankings are released. Number four Penn State erasing a two 1169 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 6: touchdown halftime deficit to come back and beat USC in 1170 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 6: overtime at thirty three to thirty. Number seven Alabama survives 1171 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:31,040 Speaker 6: against South Carolina twenty seven to twenty five. Number eight Tennessee. 1172 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,959 Speaker 6: They trailed Florida ten to nothing late in the third quarter, 1173 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 6: but they do come from behind for the overtime win 1174 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 6: twenty three to seventeen. 1175 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Number thirteen. 1176 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 6: LSU took its first lead on its only play of overtime, 1177 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 6: but they do get the win over number nine Ole 1178 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 6: Miss twenty nine to twenty six. Last game of the 1179 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 6: night out on the Islands, Number seventeen, Boise State pulls 1180 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 6: away from Hawaii to win at twenty eight to seven. 1181 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 6: Number eighteen Kansas State and Coloradoway wild fourth quarter that 1182 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,479 Speaker 6: sees so wild Cats win at thirty one to twenty eight. 1183 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 6: Number twenty two pit held on for a seventeen to 1184 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 6: fifteen a win against Cal Number twenty three. Illinois got 1185 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 6: a sack on a two point try at the end 1186 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 6: of overtime to hold off Purdue fifty to forty nine. 1187 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,720 Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, all right, thanks Kevin, So welcome 1188 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 2: in a gentleman. You've heard them on our show many times. 1189 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Broke the story a year and a half ago, the 1190 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 2: A's coming to Vegas Tuesday night again and Wednesday morning. 1191 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: He witnessed twenty two seconds, So Tropicana is no longer Alan. 1192 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 2: You were there, we weren't tell us what you saw. 1193 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 8: Hey, Bernie. It was pretty spectacular, you know, you know, 1194 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 8: whether the A's eventually build the stadium, well, you know, 1195 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 8: we'll see. But in terms of the farewell to the 1196 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,680 Speaker 8: Tropic Canada to pave the way for the new A 1197 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 8: Stadium on that side on the strip, it was a 1198 01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 8: pretty pretty impressive spectacular farewell, definitely Las Vegas style for sure, 1199 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 8: fireworks and they did a hell of a job with 1200 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 8: the drones up in the sky, coordinated with the really 1201 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 8: impressive fireworks show. And like you mentioned, it took a 1202 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 8: mere twenty two seconds to level the two gigantic towers 1203 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 8: on the site. And right now it's just basically clean 1204 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,920 Speaker 8: up and getting rid of the debris and rubble. 1205 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 2: So you talk about the drones, you talk about the lights. 1206 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 2: I guess there was a full fireworks show as well, 1207 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 2: kind of a big production. How close could you get 1208 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 2: to the event? Where were you and the rest of 1209 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 2: the media positioned. 1210 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 8: I'd say we were probably several football fields away from 1211 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 8: the from the demolition. I actually got some pretty good 1212 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 8: video myself along with our photographers. So it was definitely 1213 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 8: a big media event, definitely a historic spectacle in Las 1214 01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,439 Speaker 8: Vegas as animals for sure. 1215 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 2: So you talked about the cleanup, how long do they 1216 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 2: expect that cleanup to consummate. When will the stadium be 1217 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 2: or when will that lot be completely leveled? For whatever 1218 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 2: happens next, I would expect. 1219 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 8: For the rest of the year really into early twenty 1220 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 8: twenty five, the complete thirty five acre site will be 1221 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 8: pretty much cleaned up. In a blank slate for early 1222 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 8: twenty twenty five. And you know, the asay they're looking 1223 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 8: at a groundbreaking somewhere in the second quarter of next year, 1224 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 8: that April May June window there. 1225 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 2: I'll believe that when John Fisher comes up with a 1226 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 2: bunny and that's not I think we will be tackling tonight. 1227 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 2: By the way, as you know, Alan the Trap was 1228 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 2: sold to Ballys in twenty twenty one. It's understanding they're 1229 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 2: also going to build on that site a new Bally's 1230 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 2: hotel and resort. What can you tell us about that, well. 1231 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 8: I mean that's what they say. I mean, we're still 1232 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 8: waiting for the site plan. There's still you know, a 1233 01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 8: lot of unanswered questions, but you know there is a 1234 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 8: site plan being fashioned right now that will include a 1235 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 8: hotel tower. You know, keep in mind, Valleys is you know, dealing. 1236 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 8: They're quite a debt saddled company. So there's still people 1237 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 8: have doubts about the a Stadium, and quite frankly, Bernie, 1238 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 8: people still have doubts about the Bailey's Hotel. I mean, 1239 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,600 Speaker 8: theoretically they're supposed to be coordinated and kind of you know, 1240 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 8: be working together in the site plan, but you know, 1241 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 8: we're still waiting to even see the side plans. But 1242 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 8: there is a hotel in the works, That's what we're 1243 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 8: talking That. 1244 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 2: Is such prime real estate. The corner of Troup and 1245 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 2: Las Vegas Boulevard, essentially where the strip truly begins, right 1246 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 2: and my due to my way of thinking, you know, 1247 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 2: who are the factions behind what's going to really happen there? 1248 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 8: Well, it's an interesting three way partnership. You have, like 1249 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 8: you mentioned, valleys, and then you have the A's and 1250 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 8: then you have gaming and leisure Properties Inc. They actually 1251 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 8: own the thirty five acres. And keep in mind, Bernie, 1252 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 8: as you know, the thirty five acres will not be 1253 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 8: used for the stadium as a totality. The A's are 1254 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 8: getting a nine acre footprint to build their domed one 1255 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 8: point five billion dollars stadium. So you know, the charge 1256 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 8: for the A's is to somehow cram in a dome 1257 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 8: stadium on a nine acre footprint. At like you said, 1258 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 8: it's an iconic site. It's the southeast corner of Las 1259 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 8: Vegas Boulevard and Tropic Kanda Ab And you know, well, 1260 01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 8: we're still waiting to see where exactly the nine acre 1261 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 8: footprint will sit on the thirty five acre location. 1262 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 2: All right, Elan, We're going to keep watching this news 1263 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 2: or ups. You feel free to reach out to me 1264 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 2: when we have real news. We'll definitely want to have 1265 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: you back on again. Terrific. 1266 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 8: Hey, always great to talk to you, Bernie, Thanks man, Thank. 1267 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 2: You, Allen. That's Alan Snell, Las Vegas LV sports Biz, 1268 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 2: a longtime journalist. Went out there at two thirty the 1269 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 2: morning on Wednesday. It was a real trooper and you know, 1270 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 2: got video. You could probably see it on his Twitter 1271 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 2: website at twitter side twitter handle at LV sports Biz. 1272 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 2: You know, you hear some skepticism in my voice. I'm 1273 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,800 Speaker 2: not saying the raider the oaklan A's aren't coming. I 1274 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 2: would never say that, but what I have better finger 1275 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 2: they are coming, absolutely not. I we saw how seamless 1276 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 2: it was. When you know, Bill Foley and his group 1277 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 2: said we're billing An arena. They built the arena. Next thing, 1278 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 2: you know, the Las Vegas, you know the Golden Knights, 1279 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,720 Speaker 2: The Vegas Golden Knights were born. That's all the way 1280 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 2: back down to twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, when the Oaklan 1281 01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 2: A's came checked out, when the Oakland Raiders came there, 1282 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to Oakland Arms. A lot of public money was 1283 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 2: put forth to build a Legion Stadium, to the chagrin 1284 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 2: of a lot of people. Believe it or not, there 1285 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 2: were a lot of opposing factions. The Oakland A's and 1286 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 2: iconic franchise, no doubt about it. But hey, they kind 1287 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,559 Speaker 2: of showed up, had unannounced and uninvited and say we're here, 1288 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:22,480 Speaker 2: and you'd be surprised. There's not a lot of enthusiasm 1289 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 2: for the A's coming. Now. That's not to say when 1290 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 2: they get here, if they ever get here, they'll sell 1291 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 2: out every night. You just never know. This is a 1292 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 2: hell of a sports town. But there's just some there 1293 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 2: are just some things to me that aren't adding up. 1294 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 2: And rather than speculate, ruminate, we don't need to do 1295 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,719 Speaker 2: that right now. Let's just wait and see what happens. Okay, 1296 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 2: wait and see what happens. So all right, let's start 1297 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,840 Speaker 2: back into the NFL coming up. I mentioned and when 1298 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 2: I tease the show on Twitter, it was a very 1299 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 2: weird week of football. There were five games that took 1300 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,600 Speaker 2: place last week. And I know the NFL is a 1301 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,759 Speaker 2: week to week league. There are a series of independent trials. 1302 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,680 Speaker 2: Things don't necessarily carry over. But last week was just 1303 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 2: like a twilight Zone series of games, and you wonder 1304 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 2: if some of those issues might carry over. We'll talk 1305 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 2: about those coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We are coming 1306 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 2: to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarrack 1307 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 2: dot com Studios. Keep it locked you listening to the 1308 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Hi back on 1309 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, Come to live 1310 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 2: from the Tarat dot Com studios here in a Las Vegas. 1311 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 2: I'll remind everybody you football fans, be sure to tune 1312 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 2: into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning beginning at ten 1313 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,040 Speaker 2: am Eastern seventy am Pacific for Countdown to Kickoff, presented 1314 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 2: by bet MGM, Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, Professional Better Bill Krackenberger. 1315 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 2: Have you covered my man Bill Krackenberger, The crack Man. 1316 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 2: They'll have you covered three hours before kickoff every Sunday morning. 1317 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 2: Listen to Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM right 1318 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,439 Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio and the Heart Radio app. 1319 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,400 Speaker 2: All Right, it was a very weird week in the 1320 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 2: NFL Week five, and you can't ignore it because it really, 1321 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:18,760 Speaker 2: you know, you leave the conversation asking yourself, who's really 1322 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 2: good this year? Because some teams look good, maybe they're 1323 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 2: not that good. Some teams are not so sure, maybe 1324 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 2: they actually are good. You're not gonna get any beef 1325 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 2: with me about the Chiefs at the end of the year. 1326 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 2: They don't ask Coyle just how many know they do 1327 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,759 Speaker 2: is win and they're like the exact opposite of Lincoln 1328 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 2: Riley teams. When they need to make a play, they 1329 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,760 Speaker 2: make it. Somebody makes and somebody steps up. You don't 1330 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 2: go five and zero by accident in the National Football League. 1331 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 2: And the truth of the matter is, you know, the 1332 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 2: former commissioner Burt Bell had a vision for the NFL 1333 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 2: that once said, quote on any given Sunday, any team 1334 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 2: can be any other team. That happens all the time. 1335 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 2: What happened last week? Okay, the Cowboys, Well, the three 1336 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 2: and two. Now the Steelers three and two. They beat 1337 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 2: the Steelers. The Cowboys beat the Steelers last week twenty 1338 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 2: to seventeen. Amongst weirdness, the game started way late, I'd 1339 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 2: way late, stretched over two calendar days, and continued to 1340 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 2: be completely mind boggling in its confusion. Dak Prescott, this 1341 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 2: is what he does, man. I don't care if he 1342 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 2: give him sixty million dollars or a Bologney sandwich. He 1343 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 2: throws horrendous interceptions and then the game winning touchdown. Remember 1344 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 2: he's mister October, he's not mister January. How about the 1345 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 2: Steelers defense, Well, pretty good, I guess until it really counted. Meanwhile, 1346 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 2: justin Fields, you know how I feel about Justin Fields 1347 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 2: presiding over a bottom five offense. He's like thirteen and 1348 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 2: forty two as a starter in his career. He is 1349 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 2: a solid citizen. He's a consummate professional. He is well liked, 1350 01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 2: and he should be because you know, when you grow up, 1351 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 2: when I grow up, I want to be justin Fields. 1352 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 2: He conducts himself like a true professional. It's just unfortunate 1353 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,559 Speaker 2: he's not a major league quarterback. Quarterback is a position 1354 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 2: you play with your eyes. He received the ball. You 1355 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 2: make metal snapshots and you execute. He can't operate from 1356 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 2: the pocket or the crap. They don't let him do much. 1357 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,640 Speaker 2: They let them throw the ball over the middle of 1358 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 2: the field. We keep hearing how great he is. Would 1359 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,799 Speaker 2: you please stop? Will please stop? Like we've got eyes. Okay, 1360 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 2: As I was telling Steves, like about an hour and 1361 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,719 Speaker 2: a half ago, you ever go to a restaurant, nice 1362 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 2: fine restaurant, and they said, would you like fresh ground 1363 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 2: pepper with that? And they put out they pull out 1364 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,519 Speaker 2: that big long thing, looks like a missile, and the 1365 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 2: guy starts turning it and turning it, and you wait 1366 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,760 Speaker 2: for pepper to come out. It's really slow, and you 1367 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 2: know you want more pepper, but you don't want the 1368 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 2: poor guy to end up with Tommy John surgery. So 1369 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 2: you do your best and you're waiting and waiting and 1370 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 2: waiting and waiting and waiting, and Okay, that's Pittsburgh's offense 1371 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 2: with justin fields, and it's only going to get worse. 1372 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,640 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to go to Russell Wilson. There's no 1373 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 2: vertical passing game. He is a college version of a 1374 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 2: dual threat quarterback because his default mechanism is to run period. 1375 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,720 Speaker 2: Now here's what's interesting. Both teams are three and two. 1376 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 2: You would consider that a competent record in the National 1377 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 2: Football League. You're on your way to a ten win season. 1378 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 2: But I'm not so sure on either team. If you 1379 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 2: watched the Cowboys Steelers, can you really tell me a 1380 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 2: few of those teams are aren'ty good? Next up, how 1381 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 2: about the Ravens and Bengals. The Ravens are currently three 1382 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,799 Speaker 2: and two, the Bengals one and four. All four Bengals 1383 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 2: losses by cumulative total of less than fifteen points. Was 1384 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 2: it an incredible game for the fans forty one thirty eight? 1385 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:54,439 Speaker 2: I'd say so now when you watched it. After watching it, 1386 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 2: can you see it yourself? Wow? Both these teams are 1387 01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 2: really good? No, you can't. Why come on? Seventy nine points? 1388 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 2: Both defenses struggled tremendously, even though you already knew that 1389 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 2: about Cincinnati. I love Joe Anna Rumo. I just I'd 1390 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 2: said the wrong first name of Nick great defensive coordinator 1391 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 2: got into the Super Bowl five years ago. Lou An Arumo. 1392 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Baltimore once had a feared defense unlike any other. But 1393 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 2: you're not going to tell me that Baltimore's defense is 1394 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 2: good when they're allowing twenty five points per game this year, 1395 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 2: and by the way, they looked at times helpless against 1396 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase facts. So what's the final 1397 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 2: what's the final summation, Judge Wapner. Cincinnati is not good, 1398 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,880 Speaker 2: They're not bad, but they're incredibly frustrating. Baltimore they're kind 1399 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: of good, But I've got some serious reservations about the Ravens. 1400 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 2: I do, and we'll see how they fare their six 1401 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,759 Speaker 2: a half point favorite Sunday against the Washington Commandos Cardinals 1402 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 2: at two and three forty nine ers also two and 1403 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 2: three last week. Now the Niners have since one Thursday Night, 1404 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 2: I get it, but I'm talking about week five here, 1405 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 2: the weird week. Cardinals won twenty four to twenty three. 1406 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 2: Terrible loss for the preseason Super Bowl favorites forty nine ers. 1407 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 2: That's like a stolen victory. It's like washing your pants 1408 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 2: finding a fifty in your pants. For Arizona, the Niners, 1409 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 2: clearly they miss Christian McCaffrey, but look, they bounce back 1410 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 2: pretty good Thursday night in Seattle, but the problems still 1411 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 2: are not solved. Arizona is definitely very mediocre. San Francisco 1412 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 2: get they need to lift their wounds and get truly healthy. 1413 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,320 Speaker 2: But what they did Thursday night, I'll give it up 1414 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 2: to them. The Niners are going to be there at 1415 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 2: the end, but they're not a great team. They're not 1416 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 2: the Giants two and three and the Seahawks three and two. 1417 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Now the Seahawks now three and three. They stuck it 1418 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,760 Speaker 2: up Thursday night. Gino Smith once said, they wrote me 1419 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,360 Speaker 2: off on I ain't right back start writing, Geno, you've 1420 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 2: turned into the old Gino Smith. We know in love, 1421 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 2: God love you. You've had a good ten year career 1422 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 2: in the NFL. You should have enough money for your grandkids' grandkids. 1423 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,599 Speaker 2: But it ain't happen in Gino anymore. The bottom line 1424 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 2: is you watch both those teams to scratch your head, 1425 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 2: all right. Seattle was coming off a frustrating loss in 1426 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Detroit where they really competed and they looked like a contender. 1427 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 2: That gave them their second loss. Then they stink it 1428 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 2: up Thursday night. But let's go back to when the 1429 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 2: Giants beat the Seahawks at home. The Seahawks were almost 1430 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 2: a touchdown favorite, and look, it's the variants of play 1431 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 2: for both of these teams. The Seahawks look really good 1432 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 2: in Detroit. They were terrible against the Giants. They looked 1433 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 2: terrible against the Niners, and they layd last week against 1434 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones and then that didn't exactly get him going. 1435 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, the Giants didn't even have elite 1436 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,639 Speaker 2: neighbors last week. I'm not going to have the Sunday. 1437 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 2: The long and the short of it is Seahawks. Look 1438 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 2: the stick a fork in them there. They'll probably be 1439 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 2: mid As shudor Sanders. He should know something about mid 1440 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,240 Speaker 2: I don't believe in the Giants yet, but I gotta 1441 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,640 Speaker 2: tell you their offensive line and defensive line might be 1442 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 2: a little better than you think. Maybe Brian Dables coaching 1443 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,599 Speaker 2: them up. We'll see. Long way to go, long way 1444 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 2: to go. There was once a coach, Bobby Ross, who 1445 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,640 Speaker 2: started out zero to four in nineteen ninety two with 1446 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,760 Speaker 2: the San Diego Chargers. Still made it to the playoffs. 1447 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,519 Speaker 2: So we get a long way to go. Remember what 1448 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 2: Burt Bell said on any given Sunday, the old Commissioner. Finally, 1449 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 2: the Texans beat the Bills last week, twenty three to twenty. 1450 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 2: Those Texans are a plucky group. They're now four to one, 1451 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 2: the Bills are three and two. I would say that 1452 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 2: was a somewhat expected outcome, But then again, how do 1453 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 2: you really know Houston has been I would say getting 1454 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 2: it done against not great teams all year. They had 1455 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 2: to blow out lost to Minnesota lumped into that game. 1456 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,519 Speaker 2: Buffalo is a team that looks like a Juggernaut one 1457 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 2: week and then look like they look like they're from 1458 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 2: hunger the following week. They are very much a week 1459 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,839 Speaker 2: two week team. All right, they don't miss Stefan Diggs. 1460 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 2: I would say Buffalo is good. But let me tell 1461 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 2: you something. If Buffalo loses to the Jets Monday night, 1462 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 2: the weirdness continues, all right. There was all kinds of 1463 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:26,080 Speaker 2: weird action last week, and again a lot of times, 1464 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 2: even though the NFL is a week to week league, 1465 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 2: typically what happened one week isn't necessarily what's going to 1466 01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,639 Speaker 2: happen the following week. But what's trending. We continue on 1467 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:42,080 Speaker 2: what is trending as we head into the news and 1468 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:46,600 Speaker 2: the storylines across the group think echo chamber as it 1469 01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 2: pertains to the NFL as we head into week six, 1470 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,400 Speaker 2: Not necessarily the specific matchups, which we'll get to. 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As we head into the week sixth slate, 1481 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,679 Speaker 2: which kicks off here in five and a half hours 1482 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:38,839 Speaker 2: from London Jacksonville and the Bears. Couple games Cowboys, Lions, Steelers, Raiders. 1483 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 2: The only reason I bring those up is because what 1484 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 2: happened last week makes me wonder does a carryover to 1485 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 2: this week. Last week, I pick on Dak Prescott a 1486 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 2: lot because he's never done anything in the playoffs, and 1487 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 2: trust me, he never will. But he delivered big last week. 1488 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 2: He was on his way to having his worst game 1489 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 2: of the year, and he threw two bad picks. He 1490 01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 2: lost to fumble. You know, just another day at the 1491 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 2: office for Dak Prescott and his new sixty million dollar contract. 1492 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 2: But when it mattered most, he came up with his 1493 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 2: biggest throws and even a key fumble recovery inside the 1494 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 2: Cowboys five yard line. Wasn't pretty, but it was ugly, 1495 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 2: but Prescott got the job done. And then he ended 1496 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 2: up twenty nine to forty two for three fifty two, 1497 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 2: two picks, two touchdowns, and the defense on the other 1498 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 2: side of the ball, which has been much maligned this year, 1499 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,800 Speaker 2: did just enough to win the game. It wasn't a 1500 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:32,280 Speaker 2: very smooth game. They're already without Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence. 1501 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,640 Speaker 2: They lost Sam Williams in training camp. And look the 1502 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 2: long and the short of it is the you know, 1503 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,800 Speaker 2: you get on the field against justin fields. All he 1504 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 2: can do is run. Okay, when the play breaks down, 1505 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,559 Speaker 2: that's when he's at his best. He gets jump even 1506 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,479 Speaker 2: in a clean pocket. That's just who he is, all right. 1507 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,759 Speaker 2: But because Pittsburgh's so predictable and they have a bottom 1508 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 2: five offense, they held Najiras to sixty nine yards rushing 1509 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 2: and their top receiver, George Pickens, twenty six yards and 1510 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 2: three catches. All right, that got the job done. Can 1511 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,640 Speaker 2: it carry over against Detroit? We'll find out. Ironically, the 1512 01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 2: Steelers and their defense, the Steelers are synonymous with defense, 1513 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,559 Speaker 2: and they always have been. You know, when you talk 1514 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 2: about the Steel Curtain, you know you're talking You're not 1515 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 2: talking about the you know, the Hobook and Zephyrs, You're 1516 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 2: talking about the Steelers. They gave up four hund and 1517 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 2: forty five yards last week to the Cowboys, and they 1518 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 2: allowed the Cowboys to convert nine to thirteen third downs. Now, 1519 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,000 Speaker 2: they did come up with some turnovers which were timely, 1520 01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,639 Speaker 2: and for a time it looked like maybe that would 1521 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,680 Speaker 2: save them. But then the Cowboys drove into the red 1522 01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 2: zone four straight times, only had three points to show 1523 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 2: for it. The score was tied at three, and this 1524 01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 2: game was a snoozer. But one of the reasons Dallas 1525 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,320 Speaker 2: was able to pull it out is because I've been 1526 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 2: saying that just wait for it. Chicago could not wait 1527 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 2: to get rid of Justin Fields. You don't like to 1528 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,000 Speaker 2: talk about him that way, because everybody likes him. I 1529 01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 2: like him. He's a consummate professional. He's less and less 1530 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,679 Speaker 2: consistent every week. They don't let him do anything. There's 1531 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 2: no vertical game. They don't let him throw over the 1532 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 2: middle of the field. He drops back, how what the hell? 1533 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 2: Will just take off and runs? That's Justin Fields spot 1534 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 2: to lie thirteen and forty two as a starter or 1535 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,040 Speaker 2: thirteen whatever, What does it matter, Just a matter of 1536 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,200 Speaker 2: time before Russell Wilson finds his way on the field. 1537 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,800 Speaker 2: On everybody make fun of him. He threw twenty six 1538 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 2: touchdown passes against s eight interceptions last year. He did 1539 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,679 Speaker 2: not get along with Sean Payton anymore than Aaron Rodgers 1540 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 2: got along with Robert Salah. And look, the man who's 1541 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,920 Speaker 2: been to two Super Bowls and one to one could 1542 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 2: have won two. Fields never will never reach that plateau. 1543 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 2: So I think it's a matter of time. And trust me, 1544 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 2: we'll see what Fields does against a completely depleted Raiders 1545 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 2: defense here in about twelve hours. But Fields was even 1546 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,160 Speaker 2: I would not say consistency is Justin Field's fourte eight 1547 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 2: And now he's even less consistent. He was fifteen twenty seven, 1548 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 2: only threw for one hundred and thirty two one yards. 1549 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,439 Speaker 2: He was also sacked three times, and then all of 1550 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,679 Speaker 2: a sudden, it looked like you might rise to the occasion. 1551 01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,200 Speaker 2: Let a twelve play sixty three yard scoring drive. Then 1552 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 2: he threw the six yard shovel pass to the Steelers 1553 01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,879 Speaker 2: tight end Pat Fryarmouth. All of a sudden, the Steelers 1554 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 2: got a four point lead with just a couple of 1555 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,680 Speaker 2: minutes remaining. However, the defense allows a touchdown all the 1556 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 2: offensive mistakes that the Steelers had made prior that when 1557 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 2: it became magnified. Let's not forget the Steelers only garnered 1558 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,720 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty three yards of offense last week. 1559 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,160 Speaker 2: That is going to cut it in the NFL. What 1560 01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,800 Speaker 2: if I always said about a quarterback, you judge him 1561 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,320 Speaker 2: on third down, you judge him in the red zone, 1562 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 2: you judge them in the fourth quarter. Fuels was three 1563 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:51,639 Speaker 2: to twelve on third down. Those are facts, period. Now 1564 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,120 Speaker 2: that's being talked about around the water cooler. What else 1565 01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 2: is being talked about the water cooler. I think Cincinnati 1566 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 2: could go on a run. We'll see. Now you've got 1567 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 2: the Giants Sunday, then you got the Browns, Eagles, and Raiders. 1568 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 2: But the problem is their defense is allowing thirty two 1569 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,879 Speaker 2: points a game also over the last four weeks, including 1570 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 2: forty one on Sunday's lost to Baltimore. I don't know 1571 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 2: why certain of these panel talk shows invest so much 1572 01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 2: time beating up Joe Burrow. I don't think it's his fault. 1573 01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:26,800 Speaker 2: You want to beat up a guy, how about the 1574 01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 2: Shan Watson. I don't mean literally, you know what I mean. 1575 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 2: The Brown's stubbornly sticking with the Shawn Watson. And as 1576 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,360 Speaker 2: I think Mike Jones wrote in The Athletic a couple 1577 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, Cleveland's pretty much screwed. They can say 1578 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:45,160 Speaker 2: watching is a sheld himself. Dude, he's a shot fighter. 1579 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,400 Speaker 2: He can't play anymore. He doesn't want to play anymore. 1580 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,559 Speaker 2: Never even wanted to play in Cleveland. But when you 1581 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,160 Speaker 2: come up with that kind of bag, he can't wait 1582 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 2: to get to Cleveland now, I can't wait to get 1583 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 2: out of there. I'm telling you the guy, this has 1584 01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,599 Speaker 2: just been horrific. And the Browns you talk about justin 1585 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,240 Speaker 2: fields three to twelve on third down, Deshaun Watson was 1586 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 2: one of thirteen on third down last week. And it 1587 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 2: doesn't get any easier. Eagles are on deck, they're nine 1588 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,559 Speaker 2: and a half point underdogs, down by eight and a half. 1589 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,960 Speaker 2: Then the Browns got the Bengals, Ravens, Charger, Saints, and Steelers. 1590 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:23,559 Speaker 2: Can you say maybe one in ten it's possible. Well, actually, 1591 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:24,960 Speaker 2: they're going to get a first round pick for the 1592 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,840 Speaker 2: first time since twenty twenty one. Can you believe it? Well? Hell, 1593 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,679 Speaker 2: I mean they had to give up a bag and 1594 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:36,160 Speaker 2: all kinds of draft choices to get the venerable, the venerable, 1595 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,960 Speaker 2: the Shaun Watson. How's that working out? You know? It 1596 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,599 Speaker 2: was really interesting last Sunday and we talked about more 1597 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,880 Speaker 2: footballs better than lass football. It is. Come on, my god, 1598 01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:53,160 Speaker 2: last NFL Sunday last week, the first game kicked off 1599 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 2: at six thirty am Pacific time, nine to thirty am 1600 01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,880 Speaker 2: Eastern time. So let's just do this my way because 1601 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,400 Speaker 2: I live here in the Pacific time zone. So yeah, 1602 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 2: I'm a knucklehead. I love the London games. I was 1603 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,439 Speaker 2: just in London in May. I got to go all 1604 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 2: around Tottenham Stadium, on the field, in locker rooms. It's 1605 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 2: awesome and that's a bucket list thing. I will go 1606 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,640 Speaker 2: to a game in London one of these days. But so, 1607 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 2: the NFL kicked off at six thirty am each Pacific 1608 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:27,519 Speaker 2: time last Sunday. It didn't finally end until ten pm 1609 01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Pacific time one am Eastern time. That was when the 1610 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,320 Speaker 2: aforementioned Dak Prescott beat the Steelers twenty to seventeen in 1611 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 2: the final seconds. So we are talking fifteen and a 1612 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:43,880 Speaker 2: half straight hours, literally straight of NFL football one day. 1613 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm okay with it, but that's the longest day in 1614 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 2: NFL history. If you're scoring at home, and I hope 1615 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 2: you are now. Look, I don't know what's going on 1616 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,680 Speaker 2: in Buffalo. They're three and two now. I don't know 1617 01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 2: what the mood is behind the four walls. They lose 1618 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,640 Speaker 2: to a very plucky Texans team, which sets up a 1619 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,639 Speaker 2: very intriguing matchup Monday Night against Aaron Rodgers and their 1620 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 2: new coach. And you've heard of a thousand times. If 1621 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 2: the Jets win Monday Night, they're three and three and 1622 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,280 Speaker 2: they'll have the tie break over Buffalo, and since neither 1623 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:23,400 Speaker 2: Miami or New England are going anywhere, the Jets would 1624 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 2: be in first place. Technically they wouldn't play Buffalo again 1625 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,840 Speaker 2: till late December. So you know, I have a saying, 1626 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 2: you're never gonna like the way you lose, whether you 1627 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,920 Speaker 2: get blown out, whether it's a close game, whether it's overtime. 1628 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:35,720 Speaker 2: You're never gonna like the way you lose. You're not 1629 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 2: gonna like it. And there's all such thing as a 1630 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,599 Speaker 2: good loss. Dumbest statement in sports. It's like saying there's 1631 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 2: a good kidney stone. But it's not so much that 1632 01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,719 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills lost last Sunday twenty three to twenty. 1633 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:52,760 Speaker 2: Do those plucky Houston Texans a team that's very good. 1634 01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,639 Speaker 2: You know, they can beat you in a fist fight 1635 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 2: in a phone booth, or they'll make big plays. They 1636 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,080 Speaker 2: got athletes on both sides of the ball, extremely well coached. 1637 01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 2: Damiko Ryans has just done a fabulous job. Fabulous job, 1638 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,719 Speaker 2: all right, and maybe you know, maybe maybe the Texans 1639 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,320 Speaker 2: really are a Super Bowl contender. You can put them 1640 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 2: in that, you can put them in that category. And 1641 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,840 Speaker 2: even though I just said, you're never gonna like how 1642 01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:23,839 Speaker 2: you lost, the problem is how Buffalo lost. The score 1643 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 2: was tied, there were thirty two seconds on the clock, 1644 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 2: and I know, really easy to coach from our perch 1645 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 2: here in my office in Las Vegas, but the Bills 1646 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 2: could have run the ball and played for overtime. Instead, 1647 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,800 Speaker 2: starting from their own three yard line, they throw the 1648 01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:45,439 Speaker 2: ball three straight times. After all three passes failed, Houston 1649 01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 2: got the ball and they had all three timeouts. Now 1650 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,400 Speaker 2: one of the reasons you might not have made such 1651 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,400 Speaker 2: a good idea to throw the balls because Josh Allen 1652 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 2: had struggled. And uh, you know, now they're wondering, you know, 1653 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,960 Speaker 2: do you consider DeVante Adams. I don't know where DeVante 1654 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:08,639 Speaker 2: Adams ends up. And he's nobody's solution, nobody's solution. He's 1655 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,760 Speaker 2: very polished with the media, but he sulks too much. 1656 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:15,720 Speaker 2: He's kind of a me first guy. And I don't know, 1657 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,160 Speaker 2: I remember all those Super Bowls he won in Green Bay. Yeah, 1658 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,439 Speaker 2: neither do I. And he came here he wanted to 1659 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 2: be with Derek Carr. He got his way up, but 1660 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 2: then Derek Carr left. That's no fault to DeVante Adams. 1661 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,240 Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think he's been an asset 1662 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 2: to the Raiders. I know he scored a bunch of touchdowns, 1663 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,360 Speaker 2: but come on, really, And by the way, the Raiders 1664 01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,000 Speaker 2: are not getting a number two pick, and no one 1665 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,479 Speaker 2: wants to pay part of his thirteen million dollar salary. 1666 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 2: So this deal is in limbo. Think whatever you want. 1667 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,439 Speaker 2: It's in limbo. So Buffalo's got a real chore. They've 1668 01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:47,000 Speaker 2: got a real chore coming up Monday night against the Jets. 1669 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 2: I think it's got the makings of a terrific game. 1670 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,559 Speaker 2: I remember Bert Bell, the original commissioner, said, on any 1671 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,040 Speaker 2: given Sunday, it sentiments as true as ever. It also 1672 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,479 Speaker 2: counts for Thursday, and it's probably gonna count for Monday 1673 01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 2: as well. I'm not done. There is more conversations taking 1674 01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 2: place around the water cooler. We're gonna get you them. 1675 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frader. We're coming to your line from Las Vegas, 1676 01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, tirack dot com studios. Keep it locked. 1677 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 1678 01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, 1679 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,400 Speaker 2: come to live from the TARAQ dot com studios here 1680 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:26,439 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, forty minutes away from the dance sensation 1681 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,719 Speaker 2: sweep of the nation. What kind of brand new fool 1682 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 2: you followed by what my name? 1683 01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 8: You know? 1684 01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 2: In a world of statistics, damn layers, statisticians and numbers 1685 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,320 Speaker 2: that just never seemed to be enough. One of the 1686 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 2: new fangled metrics that people seem to get a kickout of, 1687 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 2: or at least some people get a kick out of 1688 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,920 Speaker 2: reporting is how fast a player runs in miles miles 1689 01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 2: per hour. Enter Brian Thomas Junior. He's a rookie receiver 1690 01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:01,320 Speaker 2: for the Jacksonville Jazz Bars in about five hours and 1691 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,040 Speaker 2: ten minutes. You can see him teed up against the 1692 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 2: Bears in London here. He scored a touchdown last week, 1693 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:12,639 Speaker 2: an eighty five yard touchdown, and Jacksonville finally got their 1694 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,400 Speaker 2: their first w over the Colds thirty seven to thirty four, 1695 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,879 Speaker 2: even though give it up to our dude Joe Flacco. 1696 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,920 Speaker 2: Those for three sixty and three touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, you know, 1697 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 2: start at Antirichison. Yeah, okay, we don't care if you 1698 01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:31,599 Speaker 2: win games A What the hell? This dude hit twenty 1699 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,759 Speaker 2: two point one five miles per hour on the touchdown. 1700 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,240 Speaker 2: That's the fastest ball carrier time recorded this season and 1701 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 2: the second fastest in the last five years. So that 1702 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 2: in fifty cents will get you a cup of coffee 1703 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 2: at Burger Ship. But we are in a world of 1704 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:51,000 Speaker 2: stats and statistics, and damn layers and statisticians. And speaking 1705 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:54,280 Speaker 2: of running backs, remember the hullabaloo and running backs don't 1706 01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,639 Speaker 2: matter and they're being you know, being devalued. You need 1707 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,160 Speaker 2: to ignore that Guys like Sakuon Barkley have still made 1708 01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,120 Speaker 2: about sixty or seventy million in the career, and Ezekiel 1709 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 2: Elliott's made about eighty million. It's still pretty good living. Okay. Yeah, 1710 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,120 Speaker 2: no one's taking up a collection plate, to which my 1711 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,360 Speaker 2: response was, no, that's not true. They're not under they're 1712 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:17,240 Speaker 2: not over undervalue. They're very important. But when you find 1713 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:21,200 Speaker 2: out that if you're the Kansas City Chiefs and you 1714 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,120 Speaker 2: lose your first round draft pick two years ago and 1715 01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:25,920 Speaker 2: you put in a seventh round draft pick out of 1716 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 2: Rutgers who runs like hell and looks good doing it, 1717 01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 2: it runs for one hundred and twenty five yards in 1718 01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,479 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, you find out that, yes, running backs 1719 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,799 Speaker 2: are very important. You can't be a one dimensional offense. 1720 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,719 Speaker 2: But you also find out they're more interchangeable than you thought. 1721 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,519 Speaker 2: When Todd Gurley left the Rams, how bad did they 1722 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 2: miss him? Cam Aker stepped into a fine job. They 1723 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,920 Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl. So I want to hear this 1724 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:53,599 Speaker 2: about this group think echo chamber, that running backs are 1725 01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,519 Speaker 2: being disrespected. Look, football's basketball on turf. Now, all right, 1726 01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,120 Speaker 2: it's been trending that way for better twenty years if 1727 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 2: you'd pay attention. Linebackers run like DB's did twenty years ago. 1728 01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,800 Speaker 2: Deep defensive ends run like linebackers used to. You put 1729 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 2: your athletes in space to make a play, and that's 1730 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,680 Speaker 2: how it works. Yeah, you've got to run the ball, 1731 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,640 Speaker 2: of course you do. You can't just to be one dimensional. 1732 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,439 Speaker 2: Defensive coordinators are far too smart for that. They're far 1733 01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:24,200 Speaker 2: too clever. Speaking of running backs, last week, the New 1734 01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 2: York Giants, you know they no longer have Saquon Barkley. 1735 01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:32,320 Speaker 2: They don't even have Devin Singletary. But say hello to 1736 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:37,840 Speaker 2: Tyrone Tracy Junior. Yeah, give him the ball. You don't 1737 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 2: think these guys are interchangeable. He carried it eighteen times. 1738 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm Tyrone Tracy Junior. One hundred and twenty nine yards 1739 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:50,000 Speaker 2: last week for the New York Giants had a great 1740 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,280 Speaker 2: hand in helping the Giants run all over Seattle. Tyrone 1741 01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,200 Speaker 2: Tracy Junior eighteen carries one hundred and twenty nine yards 1742 01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 2: and it happened to be the best ruptioning performance of 1743 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:01,519 Speaker 2: the season from the New York Giants. But oh, by 1744 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 2: the way that I mentioned the Giants were also missing 1745 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:08,680 Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors. Yeah, a team that not a lot of 1746 01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 2: folks are talking about, but I think you really got 1747 01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,439 Speaker 2: to start paying attention to them and as the young'in say, 1748 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 2: put some respect down their name. Look, when Jordan Love 1749 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,880 Speaker 2: went down Week one and the Packers lost, you started 1750 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:25,680 Speaker 2: to wonder might those preseason predictions of grandeur fall by 1751 01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:28,559 Speaker 2: the wayside, especially since you got the lines in that 1752 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,759 Speaker 2: division and the Vikings. What they're doing is not a fluke. 1753 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,720 Speaker 2: They're well coached on both sides of the ball and 1754 01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 2: they execute. But since losing Week one, the Packers have 1755 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:42,599 Speaker 2: been three and one since and every day someone wakes 1756 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 2: up in America and a new star is born. Last 1757 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,519 Speaker 2: week it was Jayden Reid. Look at the highlight reel 1758 01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,519 Speaker 2: during green Bay and their victory over the Rams, who 1759 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,519 Speaker 2: don't have a lot, but they fight. They fight, and 1760 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 2: they're tough out. They're usually an out, but they're tough out. 1761 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 2: Green Bay beat him twenty four to nineteen last week, 1762 01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:06,120 Speaker 2: and Jayden Reid made a catch for the Ages. Ages. 1763 01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,160 Speaker 2: And by the way, they have another guy on the 1764 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:14,120 Speaker 2: team by the name of Xavier McKinney, first player in 1765 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:18,519 Speaker 2: fifty five years since the NFLFL Merger to get an 1766 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,280 Speaker 2: interception in each of his first five games with a 1767 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,640 Speaker 2: new team. Those are some of the things that are 1768 01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:28,439 Speaker 2: talking about around the water cooler. What else, Well, you 1769 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:32,800 Speaker 2: know what, it's early. You can't draw a lot of conclusions. 1770 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,400 Speaker 2: You can't be prisoner of their moment. But Kayleb Williams 1771 01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,320 Speaker 2: last week finished with three hundred and four yards and 1772 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:43,720 Speaker 2: two touchdowns and only took one sack. And we will 1773 01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 2: find out in about five hours now if the upside 1774 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,439 Speaker 2: of the Bears offense continues. It may or may not. 1775 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,959 Speaker 2: All right, the Bears have been looking for a breakout, 1776 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 2: a QBR breakout. You know, we've seen bo Nicks do it. 1777 01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,840 Speaker 2: We've seen Jayden Daniels do it, Mike Caleb Williams do it. 1778 01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 2: He's trending upward. He's trending upward. His QBR Week two 1779 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:12,000 Speaker 2: was twenty, his QBR Week five was eighty one. By 1780 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:15,360 Speaker 2: the way, the Bears put up thirty six points last week. Yes, 1781 01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,640 Speaker 2: it was the Carolina Panthers, but the same Panthers that 1782 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 2: came in here and beat the Raiders. Silly Bears are 1783 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:24,880 Speaker 2: three and two. They're three and two, and again, remember 1784 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,400 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams finished with three hundred and four yards and 1785 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:32,000 Speaker 2: two touchdowns. So you know what, we're equal opportunity. We 1786 01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,680 Speaker 2: call him as we see him. Caleb Williams had kind 1787 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:40,240 Speaker 2: of a dubious start. But listen, I know we didn't 1788 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:44,639 Speaker 2: question the talent, we didn't question his physical gifts. Let's 1789 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,479 Speaker 2: see what he does, Let's see if it continues. But 1790 01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 2: for one week last week, he turned some heads. Finally. Look, 1791 01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:59,320 Speaker 2: I know the Raiders want to move DeVante Adams and 1792 01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 2: they want to get a second round pick. And DeVante 1793 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,120 Speaker 2: Adams says a thirteen million dollars salary, and Raiders would 1794 01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,120 Speaker 2: like in a perfect world somebody would swoop in, give 1795 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,599 Speaker 2: him a second round pick and pay Davante Adams thirteen million. 1796 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,920 Speaker 2: No one wants to do that or what happened already. 1797 01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,639 Speaker 2: The Raiders have until November fifth. I think their leverage 1798 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,880 Speaker 2: goes down the closer it gets, maybe more teams enter 1799 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 2: the fray. And you know, all these people who thought 1800 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 2: he was going to the Jets just because Aaron Rodgers, 1801 01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, they could end up being right. I 1802 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,519 Speaker 2: never thought that. I didn't say he wasn't or he was, 1803 01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,720 Speaker 2: the reality of it is I think it best the 1804 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,120 Speaker 2: Raiders will get a third rounder. And I know DeVante 1805 01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:42,240 Speaker 2: Adams says he's open to, you know, multiple teams, but 1806 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,280 Speaker 2: he prefers the Saints of the Jets, which is it's 1807 01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:47,599 Speaker 2: so important to the Raiders to just give DeVante Adams 1808 01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,920 Speaker 2: what he wants just because, Yeah, why not try to 1809 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,400 Speaker 2: win games? Look, I think would be a great story 1810 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,000 Speaker 2: for the Raiders knock off Pittsburgh Sunday, you know, about 1811 01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:59,120 Speaker 2: twelve hours from now. Seriously, the football is better than 1812 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:03,800 Speaker 2: the Raiders are good. Unfortunately they're not good. But you know, 1813 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,280 Speaker 2: after losing to Minnesota, giving the game away, Aaron Rodgers 1814 01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,360 Speaker 2: three picks and missing Garrett Wilson wide open Garrett Wilson 1815 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:17,000 Speaker 2: on paper, could another threat alongside of Garrett Wilson help 1816 01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers help the Jets. I don't know. It feels 1817 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:22,760 Speaker 2: like that might be a lot of mouse to feed. 1818 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:27,200 Speaker 2: And I feel like when I feel like when Devanta 1819 01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,360 Speaker 2: Adams doesn't get the ball, it could be winning forty 1820 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,240 Speaker 2: nine to nothing, he just sulks. I've seen it too 1821 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,280 Speaker 2: many times. I think even other players have seen it 1822 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:39,200 Speaker 2: too many times. But such as life, the tooth of 1823 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,840 Speaker 2: the matter is as Burt Bell said, you know, on 1824 01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,879 Speaker 2: any given Sunday, on any given Sunday, anybody can beat anybody, 1825 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,320 Speaker 2: and we are seeing that. What will happen coming up 1826 01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:54,920 Speaker 2: later on today, Let's talk about some of the games. 1827 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,920 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the games on the docket and Fez 1828 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,400 Speaker 2: and I talked about it from a ga ambling standpoint 1829 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,439 Speaker 2: earlier in the show with the Physik five. Let's talk 1830 01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 2: about it from a Storylon standpoint, and we'll begin with 1831 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,439 Speaker 2: the Bears and the Jaguars coming up. But first we 1832 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:13,200 Speaker 2: go back to our guy, Kevin Wyn, the chef with 1833 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,719 Speaker 2: the latest chef. That's one of your better ones. Man 1834 01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:18,400 Speaker 2: went into the cookie jar. 1835 01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:18,600 Speaker 5: Now one. 1836 01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,800 Speaker 6: I was practicing that one, and Man, I really let 1837 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 6: it rip for you guys there, and. 1838 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,640 Speaker 2: You were you were, you were getting after it. 1839 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, yet and after it like Texas on Oklahoma today, 1840 01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 6: Man thirty four to three, as Quinn you weres just 1841 01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,680 Speaker 6: twenty at twenty nine and ninety nine yards and a 1842 01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,280 Speaker 6: touchdown pass. But Texas really getting it done on defense, 1843 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:44,479 Speaker 6: shutting out Oklahoma for the final three quarters of the game. 1844 01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,360 Speaker 6: As the Longhorns now six and zero in the season 1845 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,680 Speaker 6: and now two to zero in their first ever campaign 1846 01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:55,760 Speaker 6: in the SEC. Number two Ohio State number three or again. 1847 01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,800 Speaker 6: This was one of the top matchups of the year 1848 01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,880 Speaker 6: entering tonight and one man. This one really lived up 1849 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:05,639 Speaker 6: to it, as Oregon stopping Ohio State on the final 1850 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,880 Speaker 6: play as they hold on for a thirty two to 1851 01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:14,880 Speaker 6: thirty one victory. Dylan Gabriel with an outstanding performance for 1852 01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:19,519 Speaker 6: the Ducks in the victory as he had three hundred 1853 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 6: and forty one yards and a couple of touchdown passes. 1854 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:26,559 Speaker 6: Number four Penn State in usc as the Troches led 1855 01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,400 Speaker 6: by two touchdowns at halftime so looked like they might 1856 01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,959 Speaker 6: bounce back from their loss to Minnesota. The Nitney Lyons 1857 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,560 Speaker 6: erasing it, forcing overtime where they do eventually win it 1858 01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,920 Speaker 6: thirty three to thirty. Number five Georgia forty one thirty 1859 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,760 Speaker 6: one winners against Mississippi State Number seven. Alabama hangs on 1860 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:45,759 Speaker 6: for dear life, but they do get the win against 1861 01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:50,439 Speaker 6: South Carolina twenty seven to twenty five, Number eight Tennessee 1862 01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 6: and Florida. This one goes to overtime in Knoxville, but 1863 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:58,480 Speaker 6: it is the Volunteers winning it twenty three to seventeen. 1864 01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,960 Speaker 6: LSU didn't have a lead into the final play in overtime, 1865 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,439 Speaker 6: but they do get the win against Number nine Ole 1866 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,800 Speaker 6: Miss twenty nine to twenty six. Tenth thran Clemson forty 1867 01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,839 Speaker 6: nine to fourteen overweight Forest, Number eleven Notre Dame pounds 1868 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,559 Speaker 6: Stanford forty nine to seven, and number eleven Iowa State 1869 01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,599 Speaker 6: beats West Virginia twenty eight to sixteen. In the Big twelve, 1870 01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:22,000 Speaker 6: it's number fourteen BYU blowing out Arizona forty one nineteen 1871 01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 6: out on the Islands. Number seventeen Boise State pulling away 1872 01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,680 Speaker 6: from Hawaii twenty eight to seven, and man, this is 1873 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:30,679 Speaker 6: one of the better games of the evening in a boulder. 1874 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,479 Speaker 6: Number eighteen Kansas State in Colorado, crazy fourth quarter, a 1875 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,439 Speaker 6: couple of different lead changes, but Kansas State eventually wins 1876 01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,680 Speaker 6: this one thirty one to twenty eight. Number twenty two 1877 01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,479 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh holds off cal seventeen to fifteen. Number twenty three 1878 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:50,720 Speaker 6: Illinois fifty to forty nine winners against Perdue back to Bernie. 1879 01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,760 Speaker 2: Chef, keep me here for a second year now. First 1880 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 2: of all, are you even a USC fan or do you. 1881 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,120 Speaker 6: I know why I actually grew up at USC hater 1882 01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:02,320 Speaker 6: because my family loves Notre Dame so oh, well, they'll. 1883 01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,400 Speaker 2: Be plighting each other. Yeah, of the year. All right, 1884 01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:08,960 Speaker 2: So what's the local narrative regarding Lincoln Riley. He's eleven 1885 01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:10,840 Speaker 2: and ten in his last twenty one. He's five and 1886 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:14,280 Speaker 2: eight in his last thirteen. Let's keep it real here, Okay, 1887 01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:17,280 Speaker 2: this is not what the USC faithful expected. 1888 01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is certainly not the expectations that they had 1889 01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,320 Speaker 6: for Lincoln Riley. He was expected to come in and 1890 01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:30,200 Speaker 6: basically have the national championship contenders every season. But after 1891 01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:33,040 Speaker 6: their struggles last year and now they're just three and 1892 01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:36,320 Speaker 6: three and Lincoln Riley again having issues at press conferences, 1893 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,320 Speaker 6: it seems like he did last every band or reporter 1894 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:38,760 Speaker 6: this year. 1895 01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened? Did some happen today? He snapped through. 1896 01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:41,960 Speaker 2: I didn't I don't want to. 1897 01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:43,200 Speaker 1: Remember last week him. 1898 01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:45,080 Speaker 6: I didn't hear about it today, But I just know 1899 01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:49,920 Speaker 6: when they lost to Minnesota, he stepped in and did 1900 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,600 Speaker 6: not allow I think it was a Miller moss I 1901 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 6: answered the questions that was asked to him at the podium. 1902 01:42:54,520 --> 01:43:00,200 Speaker 6: So Lincoln Riley has not been handling these past couple 1903 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,960 Speaker 6: of seasons well at all. He's acting like a small time, 1904 01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 6: small town coach. He's not acting like a coach. In 1905 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,760 Speaker 6: the second biggest media market in America, LA is a 1906 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,000 Speaker 6: town that demands winners demand right. 1907 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 2: I believe me. I know all that. I'm just asking 1908 01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:20,479 Speaker 2: about Lincoln Riley. Uh share, are you are you? Are 1909 01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:22,160 Speaker 2: you a USC fan? And I know you're in Arizona 1910 01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:23,479 Speaker 2: State guy, you're a USC fan? 1911 01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:24,439 Speaker 4: No? 1912 01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:25,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm an ASC guy. 1913 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:32,040 Speaker 2: Okay. Hey, they look, man, they looked really good against 1914 01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:33,080 Speaker 2: Utah Friday night. 1915 01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:34,400 Speaker 9: It's good to be dude. 1916 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,160 Speaker 2: They look like a heavyweight and they made Utah look 1917 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,960 Speaker 2: like a lightweight. I mean they won the line of scrimmage. Man, 1918 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,280 Speaker 2: I thought Frank Kush was back on the sidelines for 1919 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:47,280 Speaker 2: a minute there, real quickly though, in all seriousness, can 1920 01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:51,639 Speaker 2: you give us any insights on on Lincoln Riley and USC? 1921 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,120 Speaker 2: Because this isn't funny anymore. And by the way, I'll ask, 1922 01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:57,280 Speaker 2: I'll ask both you and the chef this. They have 1923 01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:01,840 Speaker 2: remaining games at Maryland. That's not to be easy at 1924 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,800 Speaker 2: Washington and then I say this in air quotes at UCLA, 1925 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:09,640 Speaker 2: but UCLA is We'll just leave it there. But they 1926 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,200 Speaker 2: also have home games against Rutgers, a very physical team 1927 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:16,360 Speaker 2: who beat Washington, Nebraska, who's five and one, and Notre Dame. 1928 01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,760 Speaker 2: That's six games. In a minute, I'll ask you what 1929 01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:21,320 Speaker 2: you think they'll do in those six games. What's going 1930 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:22,599 Speaker 2: on Lincoln Riley? Seriously? 1931 01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:27,000 Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, the last two games. If he wasn't 1932 01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,800 Speaker 10: getting paid so much, he would be in the hot seed. 1933 01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:31,600 Speaker 10: If he wasn't who he was, he would be in 1934 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,240 Speaker 10: the hot seed. I mean, you're losing these two games 1935 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:40,080 Speaker 10: to rank teams so close. And it's not just like, oh, 1936 01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,000 Speaker 10: it's an interception, Yeah, there were interceptions. Yeah, it's it's 1937 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,640 Speaker 10: a mistake. But it's coaching errors. It's not making the 1938 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:50,080 Speaker 10: correct timeouts, it's not doing the correct play calling. It's 1939 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:53,439 Speaker 10: and you could see it. It's it's it's easy coaching errors. 1940 01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,000 Speaker 10: And I'm like, don't get me wrong, I'm a twenty 1941 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:59,240 Speaker 10: four year old in radio, Okay, Like I might not 1942 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,639 Speaker 10: know what I'm doing, but I know when to take 1943 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,320 Speaker 10: a time out when not to take a time out. 1944 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:08,200 Speaker 10: And it seems like Lincoln Riley has completely just forgot 1945 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:10,080 Speaker 10: how to coach when it comes to the last like 1946 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,559 Speaker 10: three minutes in the fourth quarter. So I don't know, 1947 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,519 Speaker 10: I think that's something that us. He definitely needs to 1948 01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 10: figure out. But yeah, if he was anyone else, I 1949 01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 10: seriously think he would be on the hot seat right now. 1950 01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:24,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'll share something with you you might find interesting. 1951 01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,320 Speaker 2: He replaced a guy, as you guys all know. He 1952 01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,639 Speaker 2: replaced Clay Hilton. Clay Helton was forty six and twenty four, 1953 01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,799 Speaker 2: twenty two games above five hundred, and he was thirty 1954 01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:40,160 Speaker 2: six and thirteen in conference. All right, Lincoln Riley, he's 1955 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,720 Speaker 2: only coached thirty three games. I believe at USC he's 1956 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:49,640 Speaker 2: twenty two and eleven. He was eleven and three his 1957 01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,400 Speaker 2: first year and they lost in the Cotton Bowl. Then 1958 01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:54,240 Speaker 2: he fell to eight and five last year, and now 1959 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,639 Speaker 2: they're three and three. All right, give me your prediction. 1960 01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,280 Speaker 2: Could they be under five hundred if they go two 1961 01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,720 Speaker 2: and four in those games I just mentioned the end 1962 01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:00,639 Speaker 2: up on five hundred. 1963 01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,120 Speaker 1: I think they go six and six at this point, 1964 01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:04,759 Speaker 1: I think. 1965 01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:05,439 Speaker 2: I think you're probably right. 1966 01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:06,840 Speaker 1: That's so they'll get a little bit. 1967 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,720 Speaker 2: I don't think they're beating Utre Dame. I don't know 1968 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,839 Speaker 2: if they're beating Abraska. I don't know if they're beating Rutgers. 1969 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna lose one of the two either at Maryland 1970 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:14,839 Speaker 2: or at Washington. 1971 01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,680 Speaker 6: I believe that I can see in Washington that's a 1972 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 6: tough place to play. 1973 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:22,080 Speaker 2: Very tough. Yeah, and let me tell you something. Maryland's 1974 01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:23,720 Speaker 2: got a lot of athletes, and I think they're four 1975 01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 2: and one or what. They've got a winning record. That's 1976 01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,720 Speaker 2: the point, Shaye, what do you think the record's gonna be? 1977 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,920 Speaker 9: I agree, six and six. I don't I don't see 1978 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:31,759 Speaker 9: them beating Rutgers. 1979 01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,519 Speaker 2: I don't know. They'll get They'll get to a bowl game. 1980 01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,639 Speaker 2: They'll go to the Minute Bowl or somebody and play 1981 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,320 Speaker 2: Harvey Thorp School of Trucking and that'll be the end 1982 01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,120 Speaker 2: of it. And you know, look, nobody's safe when you're 1983 01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,840 Speaker 2: paid that kind of money. I don't know. You know, 1984 01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:47,360 Speaker 2: even Colin Coward is starting to, you know, cast dispersions down. 1985 01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,320 Speaker 2: I thought Colin thought he was the greatest thing since 1986 01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,720 Speaker 2: Pepperoni Pizza when he got there, and he was. He 1987 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,479 Speaker 2: was eleven and three his first year, so I get 1988 01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:58,840 Speaker 2: that right. And apparently the school had Clay Helton fatigue. 1989 01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:02,760 Speaker 2: If you look at he's record, wasn't that bad? Mark 1990 01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:03,559 Speaker 2: you want to weigh in on. 1991 01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:09,639 Speaker 11: This, I'm just like a bystander watching college coaches. I guess, 1992 01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:13,200 Speaker 11: wasn't he sort of okay at Oklahoma and. 1993 01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 2: Then you're good at Oklahoma? But the problem is he 1994 01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:17,040 Speaker 2: never had good defenses. 1995 01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,720 Speaker 11: But what was it in Oklahoma that made us he 1996 01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:21,320 Speaker 11: think he was something special? 1997 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,439 Speaker 2: Well, he wanted Oklahoma, there's no there's no doubt about that. 1998 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,720 Speaker 11: But so he was winning there, but he comes here 1999 01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,400 Speaker 11: and he can't win. It's interesting what they saw. 2000 01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,519 Speaker 2: So what's your opinion? Is he's he good or not? 2001 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:37,240 Speaker 2: That's just you know, I. 2002 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:39,800 Speaker 11: Well, just based on what's going on, he seems to 2003 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:44,080 Speaker 11: be not holding up his end off coaching the team 2004 01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,120 Speaker 11: and being able to inspire them to play the game, 2005 01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 11: whether he's not picking good quarterbacks, just the offense of 2006 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,240 Speaker 11: the defense. I mean, if he is the coach, he's 2007 01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:58,240 Speaker 11: not bringing the good ideas or finding ways to motivate 2008 01:47:58,280 --> 01:47:59,479 Speaker 11: them to play what they're. 2009 01:47:59,320 --> 01:47:59,960 Speaker 1: Supposed to be doing. 2010 01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,560 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, if he was doing it in Oklahoma 2011 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,639 Speaker 11: and the bosses thought he was good enough to come 2012 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,240 Speaker 11: here when there was an opening, what has happened to 2013 01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:11,240 Speaker 11: his abilities? 2014 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:14,920 Speaker 2: Well, the bottom line is he hasn't man expectations. I mean, 2015 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:19,040 Speaker 2: it's a very complex subject to get into Oklahoma was 2016 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,800 Speaker 2: always lacking in the defense department. I don't think they 2017 01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,439 Speaker 2: wanted him to believe. He certainly was never going to 2018 01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:26,240 Speaker 2: get fired at Oklahoma. He got him to the National 2019 01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,360 Speaker 2: Championship Game a couple of times and got blown out. 2020 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,040 Speaker 2: They just kept falling short. There was this belief that 2021 01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,439 Speaker 2: with the resources of USC, he could restore the USC 2022 01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,760 Speaker 2: to what it truly was back in the day, which 2023 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,439 Speaker 2: was almost almost indescribable, how good that program was in 2024 01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:42,480 Speaker 2: the seventies. 2025 01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:45,679 Speaker 11: So in your view, do you think this is your idea? 2026 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:48,719 Speaker 11: Do you think he thought USC would be some greater 2027 01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:50,920 Speaker 11: job and he could do something here versus what he 2028 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:51,880 Speaker 11: was doing in Oklahoma. 2029 01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, obviously you thought that, or he wouldn't have taken it. 2030 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:57,040 Speaker 11: So then they saw something into him. So did they 2031 01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:59,280 Speaker 11: go after him or did he come here like because 2032 01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,040 Speaker 11: there was an open I mean, I don't get what 2033 01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,040 Speaker 11: the idea was that he wanted to come here. 2034 01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,160 Speaker 2: I just got a tweet from a guy by a 2035 01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,559 Speaker 2: named Perita who tweeted, HI last night. I'm just gonna 2036 01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:14,560 Speaker 2: read it. I'm not It's sometimes the people syntax and 2037 01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,599 Speaker 2: Twitter is not great. So I'll do my best. Bernie here, 2038 01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:22,840 Speaker 2: I write the athletic fept today. Whatever that meant. If 2039 01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,640 Speaker 2: we wanted mediocre, we should have kept Helton, who was 2040 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,920 Speaker 2: a cheaper. I said, kick his ass out and take 2041 01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,680 Speaker 2: his stooge card with him to the mac. Yeah. I 2042 01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:35,240 Speaker 2: do remember that people had Clay Helton fatigue. But he 2043 01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:39,280 Speaker 2: was forty six and twenty four. Now, Lincoln Riley, he 2044 01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,280 Speaker 2: can't lie. He's not doing any better. And you guys 2045 01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,280 Speaker 2: heard the joke I told last night about the husband 2046 01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:47,800 Speaker 2: and wife team in Las Vegas. Right, Husband's playing blackjack. 2047 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:50,240 Speaker 2: Wife comes up and says, can I have another one 2048 01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:54,360 Speaker 2: hundred dollars to play slots? Husband gets pissed. Quedo Mark. 2049 01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:59,000 Speaker 2: Husband gets pissed. She's what, You've already lost five hundred 2050 01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,679 Speaker 2: dollars playing slots. Yeah, but you've lost over five thousand 2051 01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,000 Speaker 2: dollars playing Blackjackets said, yeah, but I know what I'm doing. 2052 01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,920 Speaker 2: Good Oise Mark? All right, where am I going with that? 2053 01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,000 Speaker 2: The presumption was, even though Clay Helton was forty six 2054 01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:18,439 Speaker 2: and twenty four, they didn't know what he was doing, 2055 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:19,720 Speaker 2: and he was not going to get them to the 2056 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:25,360 Speaker 2: promised Land, which is the playoff, which is a championship. 2057 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,280 Speaker 2: And I listen, there are far too many panel shows 2058 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:31,240 Speaker 2: on all the networks. So you got people up there. 2059 01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:34,559 Speaker 2: It's almost like the the you know, the movie back, 2060 01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,640 Speaker 2: you know with the Leslie Nielsa was in when they 2061 01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,360 Speaker 2: had Doctor Joyce brothers got lined up nine deep, half 2062 01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:41,760 Speaker 2: of them making predictions and analysis. Have no clue what 2063 01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,120 Speaker 2: they're doing. One of the other networks, I'm not going 2064 01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:45,840 Speaker 2: to out. I had a guest picker recently and she 2065 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,120 Speaker 2: picked a certain team to win because they had nicer uniforms. 2066 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:50,200 Speaker 2: They can't make this up. There was there was at 2067 01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:51,880 Speaker 2: least one person who thought USD would be in the 2068 01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:55,320 Speaker 2: National Championship Game this year. So what's interesting is you 2069 01:50:55,320 --> 01:51:00,920 Speaker 2: got to a point with with Clay Hilton whereby expectations 2070 01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,240 Speaker 2: had fallen to such a level. This gentleman who tweeted 2071 01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,400 Speaker 2: here at me said move him to the map, get 2072 01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,760 Speaker 2: rid of him. You want to be the yocre way 2073 01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,000 Speaker 2: to kept him. Well, his record's actually probably a little 2074 01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:15,639 Speaker 2: better than Lincoln Riley's is. And so the expectations based 2075 01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,439 Speaker 2: on what happened versus what's happening I think mark is 2076 01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,200 Speaker 2: really the real issue here. The perception that Lincoln Riley 2077 01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,280 Speaker 2: and he came out of the gate pretty good. Eleven 2078 01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:28,479 Speaker 2: and three, so anyway, all good stuff. I appreciate your 2079 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:33,280 Speaker 2: tweet period Mark Chef say, we can't we're not solved, 2080 01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:36,439 Speaker 2: even attempting to solve any problems here. But I think 2081 01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:40,280 Speaker 2: you all raised very valid points. All right, whatever he 2082 01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,599 Speaker 2: was doing at Oklahoma that caused him to want to leave, 2083 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,800 Speaker 2: it's not working here. Chef, you brought up a good 2084 01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,599 Speaker 2: point about the press confience. I didn't see it today, 2085 01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:49,400 Speaker 2: so I didn't want to comment on it. But you 2086 01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,360 Speaker 2: hear the you know, the group think echo chamber, and 2087 01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:56,200 Speaker 2: it doesn't look good. And like you said, Kevin, look 2088 01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,200 Speaker 2: this is a team that just simply has underchieved. And Ei, 2089 01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,080 Speaker 2: there're three and three, and I think both of you 2090 01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,200 Speaker 2: guys are right. They'll probably end up six and six. 2091 01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:06,320 Speaker 2: I don't see them. I honestly don't see them beating 2092 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:10,360 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. That's a home game. Nebraska is a toss up. 2093 01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:14,680 Speaker 2: I think Nebraska could get him and Rutgers could get him. 2094 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:16,400 Speaker 2: I think they go to Maryland and Washington lose. One 2095 01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,240 Speaker 2: of those said they're gonna lose three more games. Now, 2096 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:21,479 Speaker 2: what's interesting is just two weeks ago, three weeks ago, 2097 01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:24,560 Speaker 2: they led, They led, Michigan in the last minute and 2098 01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:26,519 Speaker 2: couldn't close it. And that's kind of my beef with 2099 01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:30,599 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley teams. There's something about the DNA of Lincoln 2100 01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,639 Speaker 2: Riley teams and when the heat gets hot, it's hard 2101 01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,840 Speaker 2: to breathe. And high leverage moments down the road, they 2102 01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:37,960 Speaker 2: just don't make the plays when they need them. They're 2103 01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,759 Speaker 2: driving for a potential field goal, and I think Miller 2104 01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:44,479 Speaker 2: Moss a good quarterback. I do it's good quarterback. Throws 2105 01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,599 Speaker 2: the pick, Penn Steak gets the ball back, they get 2106 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,559 Speaker 2: to overtime, USC can't punch it in the end zone. 2107 01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:53,240 Speaker 2: Poor kid misses the field goal, Penn Steak goes down, 2108 01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:55,040 Speaker 2: they make their field goal. You see where I'm going 2109 01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:58,519 Speaker 2: with that. This is the twilight Zone. This is Groundhog Day. 2110 01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:02,280 Speaker 2: Bill Murray and Andy McDowell. Just pick your poison. Next week, 2111 01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,680 Speaker 2: they traveled to Maryland. Do not be surprised if they 2112 01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:09,240 Speaker 2: stumble in Maryland, Do not be surprised. All right, coming up, 2113 01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:11,320 Speaker 2: I do want to get back to the NFL. Talk 2114 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:16,680 Speaker 2: about some storylines, starting with the Bears. The Bears, you 2115 01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:24,600 Speaker 2: wonder could they actually turn a corner? Well, something is 2116 01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:27,360 Speaker 2: happening later on this morning. That hasn't happened in Chicago 2117 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,439 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one, and that means the Bears are 2118 01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:34,040 Speaker 2: actually favored in a game outside of Chicago. Last time 2119 01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:36,400 Speaker 2: the Bears were favored and a game not played at 2120 01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,080 Speaker 2: Soldier Field was against the Lions back in week twelve 2121 01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:42,280 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty one. Well, they beat the Jaggs. We'll 2122 01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:44,679 Speaker 2: tell you what the storylines are that among other games 2123 01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:47,040 Speaker 2: coming up. My Bernie Fradier were kemedy you live from 2124 01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,519 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarat dot com studios. 2125 01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,880 Speaker 2: Keep it locked you listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show 2126 01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,840 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. I were back at the Bernie 2127 01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,360 Speaker 2: Fradtles Show Fox Sports Radio. Come to live from the 2128 01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:01,519 Speaker 2: tarat dot com studios. Here in Las Vegas. We are 2129 01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:05,000 Speaker 2: nine minutes away from the dance Sensation sweep in the nation. 2130 01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,880 Speaker 2: What kind of brand new fool you followed by what 2131 01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:13,760 Speaker 2: my name? Dub Bears? Yeah, I don't look now three 2132 01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,800 Speaker 2: and two. They kick it off here in about four 2133 01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,639 Speaker 2: hours and forty minutes against the Jaguars over in London, 2134 01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:26,880 Speaker 2: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, a beautiful, modern, state of the out stadium. 2135 01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:30,320 Speaker 2: I was there in May, got access all the way 2136 01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,760 Speaker 2: around field, locker rooms, everything. It's amazing, really really nice place. 2137 01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,240 Speaker 2: So I'm slappy. I'll watch the game, yep, I will. 2138 01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:42,400 Speaker 2: And there are a couple storylines the Bears. Listen, let's 2139 01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,480 Speaker 2: face it, they're a team that's historically been built on defense, 2140 01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,520 Speaker 2: ground and pound. And I don't know why Jim McMahon 2141 01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,440 Speaker 2: never gets to love people at the audacity to say 2142 01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:55,240 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is the best quarterback in franchise history before 2143 01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,920 Speaker 2: he'd played a game. Come on, maybe they were intimating that, 2144 01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:00,800 Speaker 2: but it's all theoretical. You never saw Jim McMahon play. 2145 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:03,600 Speaker 2: The guy was a baller. That Bears team in eighty 2146 01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:05,640 Speaker 2: five that beat New England forty six to ten in 2147 01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:08,440 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in eighty six, they checked every box man. 2148 01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:14,640 Speaker 2: They had Speed two, Willie gaul McKinnon, Walter Payton and 2149 01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:17,800 Speaker 2: of course the forty six defense and Buddy Ryan. So 2150 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:20,360 Speaker 2: it's hard to believe that Chicago just this last week 2151 01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:23,160 Speaker 2: TI it's long a streak over thirty years, when they 2152 01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,960 Speaker 2: actually rushed through multiple touchdowns in two straight games and 2153 01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:30,640 Speaker 2: back to back weeks against the Rams and the Panthers. Now, 2154 01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,400 Speaker 2: the last time the Bears rushed for three straight touchdown 2155 01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:38,120 Speaker 2: game was in nineteen ninety. But the way DeAndre Slift 2156 01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:42,440 Speaker 2: has been toting the ball that could be broken against 2157 01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:45,760 Speaker 2: the Jaguars. Here in a few hours, Swift has garnered 2158 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,960 Speaker 2: over one hundred scrimmage yards and back to back weeks 2159 01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:52,800 Speaker 2: tied for the longest streak of his career. It's going 2160 01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,880 Speaker 2: to be an interesting game. It's a referendum game for 2161 01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,600 Speaker 2: both teams. If the Jaguars win, you know they're semi alive. 2162 01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,000 Speaker 2: You heard me say it earlier, Bobby Ross. He was 2163 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,880 Speaker 2: oning four with the ninety two Chargers. He got to 2164 01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:06,720 Speaker 2: the playoffs the only time it's ever happened. Jaguars are 2165 01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:08,320 Speaker 2: one and five. You can pretty much grinch him off 2166 01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,520 Speaker 2: your d card dance carpet. If the Bears, hey, if 2167 01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,480 Speaker 2: they go four and two in that same division with 2168 01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:19,400 Speaker 2: the Lions and the Vikings, hey hey, ah again. The 2169 01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,320 Speaker 2: Bears haven't been favored in a game outside of Chicago 2170 01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:25,600 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one. Last time they were favored any 2171 01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:30,280 Speaker 2: game not played in Soldier Field was against the Lions 2172 01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:32,400 Speaker 2: back in Week twelve. Back in twenty twenty one, they 2173 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:38,880 Speaker 2: were laying two and a half. Chicago is now an underdog. 2174 01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:42,120 Speaker 2: Fezick likes the Bears. We talked about this, and you know, 2175 01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:45,960 Speaker 2: whenever there's a reversal, whenever a team starts out as 2176 01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:47,600 Speaker 2: a favorite, which the Bears were, they were a two 2177 01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:49,760 Speaker 2: point favorite. They one and a half none swung around. 2178 01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:53,240 Speaker 2: The Bears are a one point dog. That usually favors 2179 01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:58,320 Speaker 2: the team that people are betting against. Right now, it 2180 01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:00,520 Speaker 2: looks like the Bearers have a fifty nine percent chance 2181 01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,680 Speaker 2: of winning that game. They're not going to get my money. 2182 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:05,080 Speaker 2: I just don't trust him yet. I don't, but I'm 2183 01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:08,240 Speaker 2: going to be watching because, as we said earlier multiple 2184 01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:11,440 Speaker 2: times in the show, Bert Bell, the original commissioner the 2185 01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:15,160 Speaker 2: National Football League, said, on any given Sunday, anybody can 2186 01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:19,360 Speaker 2: beat anybody. Yep, coming up, what kind of brand new 2187 01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,400 Speaker 2: fool you followed by what my name? Keep it locked? 2188 01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:25,120 Speaker 2: The Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. That's right, you 2189 01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:29,320 Speaker 2: heard the man. The Bernie Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. 2190 01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:31,360 Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Fraddle. We are comedy live from 2191 01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:34,520 Speaker 2: the Tarrack dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Fox 2192 01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:38,120 Speaker 2: Sports Radio tyrack dot Com. We'll help you get there. 2193 01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:40,560 Speaker 2: An unmatched selection, fast free shipping for your own answer. 2194 01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:44,840 Speaker 2: Protection hand over ten thousand recommended installers tyraq dot com. 2195 01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,160 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be, Well, we've come to 2196 01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:50,600 Speaker 2: that juncture in the show, as we do every week 2197 01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,720 Speaker 2: at two am Pacific, five am Easter. And you see 2198 01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,280 Speaker 2: here on the Bernie Frater Show. I hate when I 2199 01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,400 Speaker 2: go third person will As Yogi Berra once said, you 2200 01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:03,400 Speaker 2: can observe a lot by watching, and that's exactly what 2201 01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,600 Speaker 2: we do see because around the globe, around this great 2202 01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:12,240 Speaker 2: country of ours, people engage in activities. Now. Oftentimes the 2203 01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:16,280 Speaker 2: activities are just a little silly, and they're often innocuous 2204 01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:20,760 Speaker 2: and no harm, no foul. But many times these activities 2205 01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:25,440 Speaker 2: are more serious. They can land you in trouble. Sometimes 2206 01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,920 Speaker 2: they run to follow the law, people get injured, and 2207 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:32,240 Speaker 2: they even end up in jail. But anyway you slice it, anyway, 2208 01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:34,480 Speaker 2: describe it, any way you characterize it, All of these 2209 01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:38,920 Speaker 2: activities we refer to, well, they always leave us scratching 2210 01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:42,200 Speaker 2: our head and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new 2211 01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:42,840 Speaker 2: fool are you? 2212 01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:49,000 Speaker 12: So? 2213 01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:51,480 Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you? 2214 01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,200 Speaker 2: Well, this is something I thought I'd never do, but 2215 01:58:55,280 --> 01:59:00,280 Speaker 2: I have to do it, and it involves a currant 2216 01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:07,920 Speaker 2: college football player. I have to do it. This individual's 2217 01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:10,320 Speaker 2: not going to go to jail, he's not going to 2218 01:59:10,360 --> 01:59:13,919 Speaker 2: be even in trouble with the law. But what happens 2219 01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:19,080 Speaker 2: Saturday night in the Oregon Ohio State game defies logic. 2220 01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,840 Speaker 2: And in case you missed it, this is the third 2221 01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:25,839 Speaker 2: such incident of this nature. You see back on August 2222 01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,520 Speaker 2: twenty fourth, under the radar, that's sim you had a 2223 01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,800 Speaker 2: defensive back by the name of Brandon Crossley. He was 2224 01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,200 Speaker 2: kicked out of the game for spitting on a Nevada player. 2225 01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,040 Speaker 2: About a week and a half ago, there was a 2226 01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,880 Speaker 2: running back from Memphis named Mario Anderson Junior. He was 2227 01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:46,040 Speaker 2: thrown out for spitting on a South Florida player Saturday night, 2228 01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,839 Speaker 2: in arguably the biggest game in the college football season. 2229 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,720 Speaker 2: Oregon receiver tree Shawn Holden was ejected Saturday. Well, that's 2230 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:58,680 Speaker 2: the Department of redundancy department Saturday night for against Ohio State. 2231 01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:02,200 Speaker 2: Front sportsman like conduct his quote, he spit on a 2232 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:05,240 Speaker 2: Buckeyes player. And by the way, it was actually the 2233 02:00:05,240 --> 02:00:08,040 Speaker 2: second spit against it of the day. The individual from 2234 02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:12,120 Speaker 2: Memphis spit on the South Florida player earlier Saturday. But 2235 02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:15,000 Speaker 2: I digress. All right, this is a big game, man. 2236 02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:19,520 Speaker 2: Oregon's ranked second. They're driving in the second quarter, Holden 2237 02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:22,280 Speaker 2: was forced to lead the game. He spits at a quarterback, 2238 02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:25,919 Speaker 2: at a cornerback by the name of Davis, and somebody 2239 02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:29,680 Speaker 2: right through the face mask. To Davison's credit, he didn't retaliate. 2240 02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Then you know, this kid holding had like this chest 2241 02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:37,560 Speaker 2: Shire cat smile on his face like it was really cool. 2242 02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:39,920 Speaker 2: And then he got kicked out of the game. He 2243 02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:43,040 Speaker 2: was escorted off the field and as he acted real cool, 2244 02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:44,640 Speaker 2: then he until he got to the tunnel. He didn't 2245 02:00:44,640 --> 02:00:46,880 Speaker 2: know the camera was on him. He took off his 2246 02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:49,440 Speaker 2: helmet and threw it farther than Andy Reid Junior did 2247 02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,720 Speaker 2: in a punk pass and kick competition back when he 2248 02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:54,080 Speaker 2: was thirteen years old. That would be Andrew Reid Junior. 2249 02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:56,280 Speaker 2: By the way, Google it, you love it. And then 2250 02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,240 Speaker 2: he fell to the ground and started, you know, wailing, 2251 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:03,400 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden reality set in. Well, he 2252 02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:05,960 Speaker 2: didn't exactly help his team. That fifteen yard penalty pushed 2253 02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:07,560 Speaker 2: the Ducks back to the twenty five. They end up 2254 02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:09,840 Speaker 2: having to settled for a field goal. Now Oregon won 2255 02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:13,480 Speaker 2: the game thirty two to thirty one. But Steve Shaw, 2256 02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:17,200 Speaker 2: the NCAA's supervisor of officials, said that anytime a player 2257 02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,640 Speaker 2: spits on an opponent, it's a flagrant on sportsman like 2258 02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:23,520 Speaker 2: conduct penalty requiring injection. And he said it doesn't seem 2259 02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:25,120 Speaker 2: to be a big new trend. Well, there's been three 2260 02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:27,640 Speaker 2: of them a month, but it could merit discussion this 2261 02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:31,240 Speaker 2: week with conference supervisors. You think, by the way, Holden's 2262 02:01:31,240 --> 02:01:33,360 Speaker 2: a good player. At that point in the game, he'd 2263 02:01:33,360 --> 02:01:34,960 Speaker 2: only had one catch for thirty two yards, but he 2264 02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:37,960 Speaker 2: was a transfer from Bama. He played all fourteen games 2265 02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:40,560 Speaker 2: last season, thirty seven catches, one hundred and I think 2266 02:01:40,640 --> 02:01:44,520 Speaker 2: like five hundred yards and caught six touchdown passes. The 2267 02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:47,320 Speaker 2: Ducks need him. All I got to say is holding 2268 02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:50,320 Speaker 2: be better? What kind of brand new fool? Are you? 2269 02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:54,000 Speaker 2: All right? Chef letter rip? 2270 02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:55,120 Speaker 1: All right? 2271 02:01:55,240 --> 02:02:00,280 Speaker 6: So we go to Denver, Colorado, where the Jefferson the 2272 02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,880 Speaker 6: Sheriff's Office shared a story about one thief who has 2273 02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:08,440 Speaker 6: not learned his lesson even after several convictions. So a 2274 02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:15,240 Speaker 6: man who had several prior convictions for stealing cars drove 2275 02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:19,959 Speaker 6: to his probation hearing and get this, a stolen car? 2276 02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:23,760 Speaker 2: Why not he's consistent. 2277 02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:28,280 Speaker 6: So deputies checked the security cameras in the courthouse's parking lot. 2278 02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:32,000 Speaker 6: They noticed something unusual and noticed that the car he 2279 02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:36,400 Speaker 6: was in was reported stolen. So the sheriff said. Deputies 2280 02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:38,160 Speaker 6: met up with a man. Once he got out of 2281 02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:40,960 Speaker 6: the elevator. They placed him in handcuffs and he tried 2282 02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:43,800 Speaker 6: to deny any wrongdoing, said he borrowed the car from 2283 02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:47,480 Speaker 6: a friend. Well, it turned out that friend at least 2284 02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:51,240 Speaker 6: wasn't in on the car being borrowed, as it was 2285 02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:58,000 Speaker 6: reported stolen. And again he is facing yet another auto 2286 02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:02,360 Speaker 6: theft charge and not say exactly what the name of 2287 02:03:02,440 --> 02:03:05,640 Speaker 6: the man is in this report. So unidentified man in 2288 02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:08,960 Speaker 6: a Denver, Colorado, What kind of brand new fool are you? 2289 02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,160 Speaker 2: You know what, sipisen chef. We said he stilled the 2290 02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:13,360 Speaker 2: car because he ended a point where his probation officer. 2291 02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:17,280 Speaker 2: Do we know what he was what his priority? Obviously 2292 02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:18,840 Speaker 2: he'd been convicted of a crime. 2293 02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:22,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, stealing cars. He was convicted already. 2294 02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:25,760 Speaker 2: Repeat offender. Okay, I'm sorry, Okay, very good, very good, 2295 02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,440 Speaker 2: good one, chef. And that's in Denver. Yes, so we 2296 02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:32,000 Speaker 2: have we have a Jugeni organ. We have Denver. Might 2297 02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,720 Speaker 2: we have a Florida setting. Shay, you're up next, buddy. 2298 02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:39,200 Speaker 10: We unfortunately do not. We're going to Toledo, Ohio for this. Yeah, 2299 02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:41,840 Speaker 10: a little different, but maybe next week we'll be going 2300 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:46,800 Speaker 10: back to Florida. But in a nine year old boy 2301 02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:49,760 Speaker 10: accidentally ran over his father while he was teaching him 2302 02:03:49,760 --> 02:03:54,480 Speaker 10: how to drive outside their Toledo home. What this is 2303 02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:56,960 Speaker 10: a woozy, very nee, It's quick, but it's a woozy 2304 02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,720 Speaker 10: and Ohio father ended up in the hospital after he 2305 02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:01,880 Speaker 10: was over by his nine year old son while I 2306 02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:02,520 Speaker 10: was teaching the. 2307 02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:03,680 Speaker 9: Boy how to drive. 2308 02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:07,080 Speaker 10: According to cops, it happened around one pm Sunday at 2309 02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,800 Speaker 10: a home in the one hundred block of Carbon Street 2310 02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:14,200 Speaker 10: and Toledo local ABC affiliate obtained surveillance video of the 2311 02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:17,040 Speaker 10: incident from a home across the street, and it shows 2312 02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:21,480 Speaker 10: the thirty six year old Slugen Williams inside the open 2313 02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:25,240 Speaker 10: door jam on the driver's side. Williams reportedly told the 2314 02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,440 Speaker 10: boy to hit the brake, but the boy didn't know 2315 02:04:27,440 --> 02:04:30,560 Speaker 10: which pedal it was what he hit the gas and 2316 02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:33,400 Speaker 10: the car went into reverse. The video shows Williams being 2317 02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:35,960 Speaker 10: dragged by the vehicle as it backs out into the 2318 02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:39,360 Speaker 10: street and smashes into a telephone pole. Williams gets stuck 2319 02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:42,760 Speaker 10: under the car and run over. Paramedics rushed him into 2320 02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:46,200 Speaker 10: the hospital, and cops have not released his condition. He 2321 02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:52,760 Speaker 10: was intoxicated during the incident, which explains a lot according 2322 02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:55,960 Speaker 10: to police. The boy was not her and another child 2323 02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:59,960 Speaker 10: was in the backseat but was uninjured. Police arrested Williams 2324 02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:02,880 Speaker 10: for wrongfully entrusting a person without a license and child 2325 02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:06,000 Speaker 10: and Dangerman coordinator records. He has a court date scheduled 2326 02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:08,800 Speaker 10: for October sixteenth, so in three days. 2327 02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:12,960 Speaker 2: So I'm guessing I don't know what this fine gentleman 2328 02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:14,760 Speaker 2: does for a living, but I'm guessing he's not a 2329 02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,520 Speaker 2: professional driving instructor. Is that fair? 2330 02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:18,160 Speaker 1: You know what? 2331 02:05:18,360 --> 02:05:20,160 Speaker 9: Maybe he was just drunk and he wasn't on it. 2332 02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:21,879 Speaker 9: He could be a professional driving instructor. 2333 02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,520 Speaker 2: He's drunk, and he said, why don't they teach myself driving? 2334 02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:26,600 Speaker 2: By the way, Minerson, watch you happ in the back 2335 02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:27,920 Speaker 2: seat and go for a little joy ride. 2336 02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:29,400 Speaker 9: Show the boys what he does. 2337 02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:31,920 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, run me over. I'll sit in the hospital and 2338 02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:35,760 Speaker 2: sober up and ask myself what kind of brand new fool, 2339 02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:38,680 Speaker 2: mir that's a good one. That adds a lot of layers, 2340 02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:40,760 Speaker 2: a lot of layers. They know how to have fun 2341 02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:43,920 Speaker 2: in Taledo, don't they. Oh yeah, all right, guys, great job. 2342 02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:48,640 Speaker 2: Another that concludes another rousing addition of what kind of 2343 02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,920 Speaker 2: brand new fool you? Which now allows us the sec 2344 02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:53,800 Speaker 2: way in our second favorite bit, and which is what 2345 02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:59,600 Speaker 2: my name? All right? I'm the only NFL coach in 2346 02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,680 Speaker 2: history to actually start zero to four and still make 2347 02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,520 Speaker 2: the playoffs? Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2348 02:06:08,760 --> 02:06:10,520 Speaker 11: I forgot his first name, but it's Ross. 2349 02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it to you. Bobby Ross, yep, Bobby 2350 02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:16,760 Speaker 2: Ross and the San Diego Chargers, Bobby pass through Detroit. 2351 02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:20,000 Speaker 2: I covered that team. He quit in the middle of 2352 02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:22,320 Speaker 2: the year and they had a winning record. He didn't 2353 02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:24,920 Speaker 2: like it. He thought Wayne Fonce had left a country 2354 02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:28,040 Speaker 2: club atmosphere. I always liked Bobby Ross. He wanted Army, 2355 02:06:28,040 --> 02:06:30,320 Speaker 2: he wanted Maryland. Got the charge of the Super Bowl 2356 02:06:30,320 --> 02:06:33,560 Speaker 2: in ninety five. Good Man, good coach Bobby Ross all right. 2357 02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:39,320 Speaker 2: As an original NFL commissioner, I coined the phrase on 2358 02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:41,920 Speaker 2: any given Sunday, the chef Kevin. 2359 02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:43,640 Speaker 1: Wyret, Oh, when you said this, and I forgot the name, 2360 02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:44,680 Speaker 1: It's not Pete Roselle. 2361 02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:46,400 Speaker 2: Is it not Pete Roselle. But you're right. I have 2362 02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:50,320 Speaker 2: sat the name twice tonight. As a former NFL commissioner, 2363 02:06:50,360 --> 02:06:52,800 Speaker 2: I coined the phrase on any given Sunday, Shay, what my. 2364 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:58,200 Speaker 10: Name on any given Sunday? Oh my god, Mark, you 2365 02:06:58,240 --> 02:06:59,720 Speaker 10: need to help us out here, man, you need to 2366 02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:00,560 Speaker 10: come and clutch. 2367 02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:03,640 Speaker 2: I've said that, I've said the name of I's okay. 2368 02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:05,800 Speaker 11: I know you said what the name is, but I'm 2369 02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:06,960 Speaker 11: gonna say al Pacino. 2370 02:07:08,760 --> 02:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Well, of course the movie. 2371 02:07:10,080 --> 02:07:12,480 Speaker 2: Got it even Sunday. Nicely done. I should give you 2372 02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:17,160 Speaker 2: half a point for creativity. Actually, Burt Bell, Bert Bell, 2373 02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:23,000 Speaker 2: all right. I've been sacked more than any other quarterback 2374 02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:26,200 Speaker 2: in the National Football League this season, Mark Ramsey, what 2375 02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:26,720 Speaker 2: my name? 2376 02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:32,720 Speaker 11: Sacked more? Dak Prescott? 2377 02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:37,520 Speaker 2: Not Dak Prescott. I've been sacked more than any other 2378 02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:40,000 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL this season. The chef Kevin Wirrett, 2379 02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:40,480 Speaker 2: what my name? 2380 02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:41,680 Speaker 1: Watson? 2381 02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:44,040 Speaker 2: You got it, man, DeShawn Watson. 2382 02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:45,839 Speaker 1: Massage Watson. 2383 02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:49,320 Speaker 2: You know he's been He's been hit more of than 2384 02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:50,560 Speaker 2: Rocky Bell Bowl this year. 2385 02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:50,720 Speaker 5: Man. 2386 02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:52,720 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I wonder if he gets massages anymore, 2387 02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:55,560 Speaker 2: because now I could really use him, right, all right, 2388 02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:59,200 Speaker 2: we are we are you know, we are monks. We 2389 02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:01,720 Speaker 2: are midst Let me try that again in English. You 2390 02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:05,520 Speaker 2: see if I can make it any clunk here the NFL. 2391 02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Let me try that again. I haven't been drinking, honest, 2392 02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:09,640 Speaker 2: and I haven't been teaching my seven year old how 2393 02:08:09,640 --> 02:08:13,520 Speaker 2: to drive either. All right. The Major League Baseball playoffs 2394 02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:16,000 Speaker 2: are raging. We now have the championship series among us 2395 02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:20,040 Speaker 2: upon us, I don't know what'stronomy. I hold the record 2396 02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:24,000 Speaker 2: among all Major League Baseball managers with the most consecutive 2397 02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:28,640 Speaker 2: postseason appearances with fourteen. Shaan Mogngar, what my. 2398 02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:32,440 Speaker 9: Name, But that's Dave Roberts, not. 2399 02:08:32,440 --> 02:08:35,720 Speaker 2: David Arms, not David Obberts. He's getting up there, but 2400 02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:38,800 Speaker 2: not that many. I hold the record among all Major 2401 02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:42,880 Speaker 2: League Baseball managers in history for the most consecutive postseason 2402 02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:48,680 Speaker 2: appearances with fourteen. Mark Ramsey was in my name. Leo 2403 02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:53,040 Speaker 2: du Rocher, nice guy, that's finished last, The legendary Leo 2404 02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:56,120 Speaker 2: de Roacher, one of seventeen, one of one hundred and 2405 02:08:56,240 --> 02:09:02,280 Speaker 2: seventeen members posthumously oosthumously inducted into the Hall of Fame. 2406 02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:03,800 Speaker 2: By the way, do you guys hear they canceled that 2407 02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:09,240 Speaker 2: situation that Pete Rose Memorial in Cincinnati because they couldn't 2408 02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:12,360 Speaker 2: agree on some things. So even even in death, turmoil 2409 02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:16,560 Speaker 2: follows people. No way. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell maybe I'll 2410 02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:18,000 Speaker 2: if I get to the halftime. I'll get to that, 2411 02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,840 Speaker 2: all right. I hold the record among all Major League 2412 02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:23,959 Speaker 2: Baseball managers in history with the most consecutive postseason appearances 2413 02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:26,880 Speaker 2: with fourteen. Uh, chef Kevin Wire. 2414 02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:29,800 Speaker 1: What my name Joe Tory, Not Joe Tory, but you 2415 02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:30,400 Speaker 1: had to be one. 2416 02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:32,000 Speaker 2: Of the right teams. He managed that team for a while. 2417 02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:35,959 Speaker 1: Bobby Cox, I was giving my second guest had Okay. 2418 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:37,960 Speaker 2: Let's try it again, the record of all. 2419 02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:43,480 Speaker 6: I knew it had to be one of those two 2420 02:09:43,560 --> 02:09:47,240 Speaker 6: because Joe Tory managed the Yankees in that mid nineties 2421 02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:50,160 Speaker 6: dynasty and then led the Dodgers to two consecutive playoff 2422 02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:53,000 Speaker 6: appearances after he went from New York to LA. But 2423 02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:56,120 Speaker 6: I also knew Bobby Cox had that run of division titles, 2424 02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:57,879 Speaker 6: so I had to remember which. 2425 02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:58,800 Speaker 2: Got into the postseason. 2426 02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I remember remember exactly who was longer, but 2427 02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:03,120 Speaker 1: it was Boley Cow's. 2428 02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:08,440 Speaker 2: It was Okay, this one's a little tricky. Guys. But 2429 02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:10,880 Speaker 2: if you know the trivia, you're gonna get it. You're 2430 02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:14,320 Speaker 2: all Dodgers fans. I have more postseason home runs than 2431 02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:18,960 Speaker 2: any other catcher in Dodgers' history, Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2432 02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:24,720 Speaker 11: I think he was the oh I can't think of 2433 02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:27,760 Speaker 11: his name, but he was the Italian guy. But after 2434 02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:28,440 Speaker 11: igot his name. 2435 02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:34,600 Speaker 2: I have more postseason home runs than any catcher in Dodgers' history, 2436 02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:36,800 Speaker 2: Shaim Ogngar, What my name. 2437 02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:42,200 Speaker 9: Mike Pause, that's a good guess, but it's not him. 2438 02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:44,040 Speaker 2: It's not him, and maybe that's what you were thinking of. 2439 02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:45,600 Speaker 1: The I think he only played in like six or 2440 02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:46,920 Speaker 1: seven postseason games. 2441 02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:51,200 Speaker 2: All right. I have more postseasons the other catcher in 2442 02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,640 Speaker 2: Dodgers history, the chef, what my name? 2443 02:10:54,160 --> 02:10:56,520 Speaker 1: The fresh Prince of bel Air, Will Smith? 2444 02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:59,800 Speaker 9: You got it, buddy, Will Swow. 2445 02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:04,440 Speaker 2: I might have now hadn't got the right answer. I 2446 02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:06,360 Speaker 2: was going to give a clue that he's been getting 2447 02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,920 Speaker 2: jiggy with it, and you would have gotten that. As 2448 02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,360 Speaker 2: we move along, a hip hipster, all right. Prior to 2449 02:11:12,520 --> 02:11:17,440 Speaker 2: David Montgomery, I was the last Detroit Lion to garner 2450 02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:22,880 Speaker 2: a rushing touchdown in seven straight games. Mark Ramsey what 2451 02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:23,400 Speaker 2: my name? 2452 02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:31,040 Speaker 9: I can't think of, no problem. 2453 02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Prior to David Montgomery, who just got a nice extension, 2454 02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:39,160 Speaker 2: I was the last Detroit Lions running back to garner 2455 02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:43,840 Speaker 2: a touchdown in seven straight games. The chef Kevin Wyret. 2456 02:11:43,520 --> 02:11:45,080 Speaker 1: What my name Barry Sanders? 2457 02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:48,480 Speaker 2: Nope, not Barry Sanders. Prior to David Montgomery, I was 2458 02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:51,320 Speaker 2: the last Detroit Lion to rush for a touchdown in 2459 02:11:51,400 --> 02:11:53,920 Speaker 2: seven straight games. Shaye, what my name? 2460 02:11:54,080 --> 02:11:58,760 Speaker 9: It Wasn't give me a clue. 2461 02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:00,600 Speaker 2: He went to college in the same state. 2462 02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:04,160 Speaker 9: In the same state to Michigan. 2463 02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:09,440 Speaker 2: Owns a big barbecue deal in Hooks, Texas. Now Billy Simms, guys, 2464 02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:12,120 Speaker 2: Billy Simms, the great Billy Simms. Great guy too. You 2465 02:12:12,160 --> 02:12:12,680 Speaker 2: used to come back. 2466 02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,720 Speaker 9: That's like in the eighties, dude, Right he was. 2467 02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:17,640 Speaker 2: In Yeah, he played in the NFL during the eighties. Yep. 2468 02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:22,320 Speaker 2: His debut was in Los Angeles when they played the 2469 02:12:22,440 --> 02:12:25,800 Speaker 2: Lions played the Rams at the old Anaheim Well at 2470 02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:28,000 Speaker 2: current Anaheim Stateium when they played their home games there. 2471 02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:30,600 Speaker 2: The Lions beat him that day forty one to twenty. 2472 02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:32,400 Speaker 2: That was the returning Super Bowl team in Billy Simms 2473 02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:33,960 Speaker 2: rush forver for two hundred dards. Hell of a game. 2474 02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,480 Speaker 2: Here's a fun one for you guys. For you trivia buffs, 2475 02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm the only NBA player in history to win a 2476 02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:43,040 Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy. Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2477 02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:47,040 Speaker 11: Now that I have no idea? 2478 02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:49,920 Speaker 2: Okay, no problem of the only NBA player in history 2479 02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:51,800 Speaker 2: to win a Heisman Trophy? Chef, what my name? 2480 02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:54,840 Speaker 1: NBA player to win a Heisman Trophy? 2481 02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:56,680 Speaker 2: You guys are going to be kicking yourself when you 2482 02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:57,000 Speaker 2: hear it. 2483 02:12:58,040 --> 02:12:59,840 Speaker 6: I think you actually played in that. I know, Bill 2484 02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:01,600 Speaker 6: sit and play baseball and basketball. 2485 02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:06,000 Speaker 2: But alight, let's move on. I'm the only NBA player 2486 02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:09,120 Speaker 2: in history to ain Heisman Trophy. Shay, what my name? 2487 02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:18,800 Speaker 9: What an achievement, by the way, right, yeah, wow, but 2488 02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:19,640 Speaker 9: I have no idea. 2489 02:13:19,760 --> 02:13:21,960 Speaker 2: Well, guys, I'll give you a clue. You might get it. 2490 02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,600 Speaker 2: He matriculated at Florida State. 2491 02:13:26,120 --> 02:13:30,080 Speaker 9: Oh oh oh no, no, I'm Charlie Ward. 2492 02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:33,840 Speaker 2: You got it. Charlie Ward. Very dynamic quarterback. But it 2493 02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:36,200 Speaker 2: did quite transfer to the NFL, so he never really 2494 02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:37,640 Speaker 2: got a shot. 2495 02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:41,240 Speaker 1: Wait when did he play in the NBA nineties? Oka nineties? 2496 02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:46,640 Speaker 2: And yeah, all right, for you betters, I'm the most 2497 02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:50,520 Speaker 2: profitable quarterback in the National Football League against the spread 2498 02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:54,240 Speaker 2: the last two seasons. Mark Ramsey, with my name? 2499 02:13:56,320 --> 02:14:00,680 Speaker 11: Well, let's see Tom Brady quit, so it's not him. 2500 02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2501 02:14:02,880 --> 02:14:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm the most profitable quarterback in the National Football League 2502 02:14:08,280 --> 02:14:11,440 Speaker 2: in the last two seasons against the spread. Mark ram 2503 02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just had Mark Shay. What my name. 2504 02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,160 Speaker 9: Against the spread? Let's go Josh Allen. 2505 02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:22,520 Speaker 2: Not Josh Allen, although he's done pretty well too. I'm 2506 02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:25,280 Speaker 2: the most profitable quarterback of the National Football League against 2507 02:14:25,320 --> 02:14:30,480 Speaker 2: the spread the last two seasons. Chef, What my name? 2508 02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes? 2509 02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:40,600 Speaker 2: It's actually Jared Goff. Guys, whoa Goff? All right? Moving along? 2510 02:14:40,720 --> 02:14:45,360 Speaker 2: Two more. I'm the only quarterback in college football history 2511 02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:49,120 Speaker 2: to win three games outright when my team was an 2512 02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:52,760 Speaker 2: underdog of twenty points or more. Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2513 02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:56,200 Speaker 11: Doug Fluty. 2514 02:14:57,560 --> 02:15:00,960 Speaker 2: Not Doug Flutie. I don't think you at Boston College. 2515 02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:03,240 Speaker 2: He was well fair enough to move on. I'm the 2516 02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:06,120 Speaker 2: only quarterback in history in college football to win three 2517 02:15:06,160 --> 02:15:08,800 Speaker 2: games outright as an underdog of twenty points or more. 2518 02:15:09,160 --> 02:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Chef with my name? 2519 02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:14,880 Speaker 1: Man, three games? I couldn't even. 2520 02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:20,360 Speaker 2: Guess the problem? All right, I'm the only quarterback in 2521 02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:22,960 Speaker 2: college football history to win three games out right as 2522 02:15:23,000 --> 02:15:27,280 Speaker 2: an underdog of twenty points or more. Shaye, what my name? 2523 02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:36,200 Speaker 9: This is very specific? Bernie oh Man. Yeah, I can't 2524 02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:37,440 Speaker 9: even I wouldn't even know. 2525 02:15:37,520 --> 02:15:39,240 Speaker 2: First of all, he did it twice last year with 2526 02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:41,760 Speaker 2: New Mexico State. Did it last week against Alabama, by 2527 02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:46,880 Speaker 2: the way, engineered a game against Kentucky. Diego Pavia of Vanderbilt. 2528 02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:50,280 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, all. 2529 02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:53,720 Speaker 2: Right, last one. You're gonna hear this, dude. Man, he's 2530 02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:58,800 Speaker 2: the goods. Okay, we no longer have the BCS, but 2531 02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:02,280 Speaker 2: you guys remember the bc Yeah, I was the head coach. 2532 02:16:02,480 --> 02:16:05,640 Speaker 2: I was the only head coach of a team who 2533 02:16:05,760 --> 02:16:10,960 Speaker 2: actually won a national championship during the BCS era, even 2534 02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:13,800 Speaker 2: though we had two losses. Mark Ramsey, what my name? 2535 02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:16,560 Speaker 11: Saying the question again? 2536 02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:20,520 Speaker 2: Oh I know. I'm the only two loss coach in 2537 02:16:20,600 --> 02:16:23,800 Speaker 2: the BCS era to win a national championship? Mark Ramsey, 2538 02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:26,840 Speaker 2: what my name means? They won? They won the title 2539 02:16:26,920 --> 02:16:29,440 Speaker 2: even though they had two losses, and it was unheard 2540 02:16:29,440 --> 02:16:31,640 Speaker 2: of to get into the title game with two losses 2541 02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:32,680 Speaker 2: during the BCS era. 2542 02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:35,200 Speaker 11: I'm gonna say it wasn't. Bar Bryant was not. 2543 02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,240 Speaker 2: Bear Bryant, who's got this. 2544 02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:41,199 Speaker 1: Let's see go ahead, less Miles. 2545 02:16:41,320 --> 02:16:44,320 Speaker 2: It is in fact, less Miles lsu back in two 2546 02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:48,520 Speaker 2: thousand and seven. All right, guys, great job. Actually coming up. 2547 02:16:48,560 --> 02:16:50,760 Speaker 2: I want to go around the room because off air, 2548 02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:53,360 Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey brought up a really good point. What the 2549 02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:56,760 Speaker 2: hell is USC gonna do if they lose to you? 2550 02:16:57,240 --> 02:17:01,760 Speaker 2: If if they lose to UCLA. Oh, by the way, 2551 02:17:02,160 --> 02:17:04,440 Speaker 2: Ucla stinks are one and five, but they play hard. 2552 02:17:04,879 --> 02:17:08,680 Speaker 2: And actually, if you watched the game at the line 2553 02:17:08,720 --> 02:17:12,080 Speaker 2: of scrimmage against Penn State a couple weeks ago, the 2554 02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:15,560 Speaker 2: Essay lost twenty seven to eleven, but they competed, so 2555 02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:18,600 Speaker 2: you cannot That's not a zero. It's not a zero 2556 02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:21,000 Speaker 2: that USC automatically beats UCLA. We'll go around the room 2557 02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:23,840 Speaker 2: and see what do you do with Lincoln Riley if 2558 02:17:23,959 --> 02:17:25,920 Speaker 2: that were to happen, You know, don't hit to create 2559 02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,360 Speaker 2: poems that doesn't exist yet and try to solve them, 2560 02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:30,280 Speaker 2: which we're not trying to do, but we're gonna do 2561 02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:32,560 Speaker 2: it anyway. If you follow all that, then stay along. 2562 02:17:33,000 --> 02:17:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fradlewer coming a line from the Las Vegas 2563 02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:37,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio TIREC dot Com studios, keep it locked. 2564 02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:40,199 Speaker 2: Listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. 2565 02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:43,400 Speaker 2: All right, back in the Bernie Fraddle Show, before we 2566 02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:45,920 Speaker 2: go to the chef's update, final update of the night. 2567 02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:49,520 Speaker 2: Let's go around the room. We gotta do it real quickly. 2568 02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Do you think UCLA beats usc and if that were 2569 02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:57,200 Speaker 2: to happen, what happens with Lincoln Riley? Mark Ramsey, you 2570 02:17:57,280 --> 02:17:57,680 Speaker 2: go first. 2571 02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:01,959 Speaker 9: My thought is. 2572 02:18:04,560 --> 02:18:05,000 Speaker 12: Not that you. 2573 02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:10,080 Speaker 11: I was thinking that because you're not in Los Angeles, 2574 02:18:10,720 --> 02:18:14,720 Speaker 11: And to quote Robin Williams from the movie, it's not 2575 02:18:14,879 --> 02:18:17,400 Speaker 11: your fault that you don't know how important it is 2576 02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:21,480 Speaker 11: for USC U c l A Thanksgiving game. 2577 02:18:21,879 --> 02:18:24,240 Speaker 2: Well stop stop. I lived in La thirty years. You 2578 02:18:24,280 --> 02:18:26,160 Speaker 2: know I would to more. I used to go to 2579 02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:28,680 Speaker 2: the game every year. So just tell us what happens. Mark, 2580 02:18:28,720 --> 02:18:29,600 Speaker 2: We got to get to the point. 2581 02:18:29,920 --> 02:18:32,160 Speaker 11: The point is if he wins the game, he gets 2582 02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:33,640 Speaker 11: to keep his job for a little longer. 2583 02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:35,680 Speaker 2: If he loses a game, you think he could be fired. 2584 02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:36,680 Speaker 11: He's gonna be gone quick. 2585 02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:39,000 Speaker 2: You think, do you think he beats him or not? 2586 02:18:39,200 --> 02:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Yes or no? 2587 02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:39,880 Speaker 12: No? 2588 02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:44,000 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, appreciate your candor. Chef You're next. Does he 2589 02:18:44,120 --> 02:18:47,400 Speaker 2: does Lincoln rally beat Ucla, and if not, what happens. 2590 02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:50,600 Speaker 6: I think he does beat Ucla because UCLA is just 2591 02:18:50,680 --> 02:18:52,120 Speaker 6: not a good team. I know you said that they 2592 02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:54,359 Speaker 6: were competitive in the trenches, but they're. 2593 02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:55,720 Speaker 1: One in five and no, I get it. 2594 02:18:55,800 --> 02:18:56,400 Speaker 2: I get it all right. 2595 02:18:57,000 --> 02:19:00,920 Speaker 1: And if he does lose to them, though, I don't think. 2596 02:19:01,040 --> 02:19:02,320 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll fire Lincoln Riley. 2597 02:19:02,360 --> 02:19:03,840 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, see, it's gonna be really 2598 02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:04,280 Speaker 1: hot though. 2599 02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:07,040 Speaker 2: If that were to happen, they're not going to a 2600 02:19:07,120 --> 02:19:07,520 Speaker 2: bowl game. 2601 02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2602 02:19:08,720 --> 02:19:11,400 Speaker 2: Uh, you got the last word on this, Shay. Yeah. 2603 02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:13,520 Speaker 10: As I said, I mean, he just because of who 2604 02:19:13,600 --> 02:19:15,680 Speaker 10: he is, because he's getting paid so much. If he 2605 02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:18,120 Speaker 10: was to lose to UCLA, I don't I think he 2606 02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:19,840 Speaker 10: would be on a very very hot seat. I don't 2607 02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:21,400 Speaker 10: think he'd get fired, but I think he'd be on 2608 02:19:21,400 --> 02:19:23,080 Speaker 10: a very hot seat. Okay here, I don't think he'll lose. 2609 02:19:23,120 --> 02:19:25,320 Speaker 2: So Mark was pretty bold in his prediction, and I'm 2610 02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:28,280 Speaker 2: not saying he's wrong. You get a rivalry game like that, 2611 02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:31,880 Speaker 2: and just about anythink it happened that that's that's gonna 2612 02:19:31,879 --> 02:19:35,600 Speaker 2: be UCLA super Bowl. Do you expect USC to beat Ucla? 2613 02:19:38,520 --> 02:19:38,720 Speaker 9: Yeah? 2614 02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:42,480 Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, we'll see, we'll see, I will 2615 02:19:42,920 --> 02:19:46,360 Speaker 2: one of you is gonna be right all right? Coming up, 2616 02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:48,760 Speaker 2: we got christophets World of Soccer. But first we go 2617 02:19:48,840 --> 02:19:51,320 Speaker 2: back to our guy the chef for an update. 2618 02:19:51,760 --> 02:19:54,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, speaking of USC, it was a rough go of it, 2619 02:19:55,000 --> 02:19:57,920 Speaker 6: a tail of two has really as the Trojans led 2620 02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:00,520 Speaker 6: it twenty to six at one point. It was actually 2621 02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:03,320 Speaker 6: at the halftime break where they led that, but Penn 2622 02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:06,879 Speaker 6: State able to come back. They outscored the Trojans twenty 2623 02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:09,840 Speaker 6: seven to ten when he kept the second half and 2624 02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:16,160 Speaker 6: overtime to win it thirty three to thirty. Elsewhere in 2625 02:20:16,320 --> 02:20:19,680 Speaker 6: a college football the game of the day in Eugene 2626 02:20:19,800 --> 02:20:22,760 Speaker 6: number two Ohio State number three Oregon, and this one 2627 02:20:22,959 --> 02:20:24,760 Speaker 6: came right down to the final play. 2628 02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:28,560 Speaker 7: Here we go, six seconds left from the after the 2629 02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:31,400 Speaker 7: five yard paralley the thirty eight yard line of Oregon. 2630 02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:36,840 Speaker 7: Howard steps back to Prow, looks right, pump fake now 2631 02:20:36,920 --> 02:20:40,040 Speaker 7: he'll run and half Roben hooks down at the twenty 2632 02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:40,959 Speaker 7: eight yard limit. 2633 02:20:40,720 --> 02:20:43,480 Speaker 1: Of' clock has run out. The clock has run out. 2634 02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:47,120 Speaker 6: Jerry Allen on the Oregon Sports Network from lear Field 2635 02:20:47,200 --> 02:20:50,280 Speaker 6: as the Ducks stopping the Buckeyes on the final play 2636 02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:53,240 Speaker 6: there to come away with the thirty two to thirty 2637 02:20:53,320 --> 02:20:56,039 Speaker 6: one win. Number one Texas also with an impressive win 2638 02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:59,440 Speaker 6: as they took care of Oklahoma in quick fashion. Thirty 2639 02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:04,279 Speaker 6: four Tory and the Sooner shutout for the final three quarters. 2640 02:21:04,360 --> 02:21:06,840 Speaker 6: So we gotta wonder exactly who might be the number 2641 02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:11,680 Speaker 6: one team in the country when the latest rankings are revealed. 2642 02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:14,920 Speaker 6: Elsewhere in college football, Number five Georgia over Mississippi State 2643 02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:18,040 Speaker 6: forty one thirty one Number seven Alabama. They had a 2644 02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,600 Speaker 6: kling for dear life, but they do come away with 2645 02:21:20,760 --> 02:21:23,840 Speaker 6: the win at home against South Carolina twenty seven to 2646 02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:27,360 Speaker 6: twenty five. Number eight Tennessee twenty three seventeen winners against 2647 02:21:27,400 --> 02:21:31,400 Speaker 6: Florida in overtime. Number thirteen LSU didn't lead at all 2648 02:21:31,480 --> 02:21:34,560 Speaker 6: in their game against number nine Ole Miss until the 2649 02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:36,880 Speaker 6: final play in overtime, but that's what they needed to 2650 02:21:36,959 --> 02:21:40,520 Speaker 6: get the twenty nine twenty six win. Number ten Clemson 2651 02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:43,440 Speaker 6: forty nine fourteen winners against wake Forest, Number eleven Notre 2652 02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:46,880 Speaker 6: Dame blows out Stanford forty nine to seven, and eleventh 2653 02:21:46,959 --> 02:21:50,760 Speaker 6: ranked Iowa State twenty eight sixteen winners at West Virginia 2654 02:21:50,920 --> 02:21:55,039 Speaker 6: number fourteen BYU demolishes Arizona forty one nineteen, the Cougars 2655 02:21:55,080 --> 02:21:58,920 Speaker 6: undefeated six and oh and climbing the rankings. Last couple 2656 02:21:58,959 --> 02:22:02,000 Speaker 6: of games of the e number seventeen Boise State pulls 2657 02:22:02,040 --> 02:22:05,320 Speaker 6: away from Hawaii twenty eight to seven, and number eighteen 2658 02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:08,480 Speaker 6: Kansas State and Colorado a wild fourth quarter that the 2659 02:22:08,560 --> 02:22:12,360 Speaker 6: Wildcats eventually prevail thirty one to twenty eight. 2660 02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:15,280 Speaker 2: Back to you, Bernie, all right, coming up a little 2661 02:22:15,360 --> 02:22:18,000 Speaker 2: later in the show. A year ago, the Jets were 2662 02:22:18,640 --> 02:22:24,519 Speaker 2: quarterbacked by the the inimitable Zach Wills. They're currently quarterbacked 2663 02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:28,879 Speaker 2: by the inimitable Aaron Rodgers. What has been the difference 2664 02:22:28,920 --> 02:22:32,800 Speaker 2: between the two? After five weeks in Mike Chokya First 2665 02:22:33,760 --> 02:22:37,960 Speaker 2: Football Futbol talk about that too. It's time for Christophet's 2666 02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:38,480 Speaker 2: World of Soccer. 2667 02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:50,840 Speaker 12: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama. 2668 02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:58,440 Speaker 1: Bick. It's all here in this report from the world 2669 02:22:58,560 --> 02:22:59,160 Speaker 1: of Soccer. 2670 02:22:59,560 --> 02:23:03,000 Speaker 13: Bernie down the stretch here and coming up on Decision 2671 02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:06,800 Speaker 13: Day in Major League Soccer. Now, what is Decision Day? 2672 02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:11,200 Speaker 13: Decision Day is the final weekend of the MLS regular season, 2673 02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:14,199 Speaker 13: and it is what has been called that because every 2674 02:23:14,360 --> 02:23:19,879 Speaker 13: team plays every one else on the same day on Saturday, 2675 02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:23,320 Speaker 13: October nineteenth, so the next time you hear the World 2676 02:23:23,360 --> 02:23:26,400 Speaker 13: of Soccer decision Day will be upon us. 2677 02:23:26,480 --> 02:23:27,920 Speaker 1: So it's a time to look ahead to that. 2678 02:23:28,440 --> 02:23:32,000 Speaker 13: As MLS club's jockey for playoff positions, I'm not usually 2679 02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:34,680 Speaker 13: a fan of how MLS has structured themselves to be 2680 02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:37,720 Speaker 13: much more American than other soccer leagues around the world, 2681 02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:39,880 Speaker 13: but this is one of the benefits is we get 2682 02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:43,039 Speaker 13: to talk about playoff seating for a lot of teams 2683 02:23:43,080 --> 02:23:46,279 Speaker 13: trying to come in. And as a reminder, the MLS 2684 02:23:46,400 --> 02:23:49,640 Speaker 13: format one through seven are automatically seated for the round 2685 02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:52,520 Speaker 13: one best of three series. Well eight and nine in 2686 02:23:52,600 --> 02:23:55,840 Speaker 13: both the Eastern and Western conferences play in a winner 2687 02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:59,720 Speaker 13: take all wildcard match before going on to those best 2688 02:23:59,720 --> 02:24:03,160 Speaker 13: of the raise series. So looking at those tables so 2689 02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:07,320 Speaker 13: far right now, Toronto FC is kind of hanging around 2690 02:24:07,440 --> 02:24:11,000 Speaker 13: number ten in the East. However, they've played one more 2691 02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:13,200 Speaker 13: game than a lot of other people, so it is 2692 02:24:13,360 --> 02:24:16,800 Speaker 13: unlikely to see them make it in, whereas Philadelphia Union 2693 02:24:16,879 --> 02:24:20,720 Speaker 13: probably has some tiebreaker situations where they could easily if 2694 02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:24,400 Speaker 13: say DC United or Montreal happens to take a loss, 2695 02:24:24,400 --> 02:24:27,400 Speaker 13: they could easily leap frog one of those teams directly 2696 02:24:27,520 --> 02:24:31,560 Speaker 13: into either eight or nine and get from the outside 2697 02:24:32,120 --> 02:24:35,160 Speaker 13: and come on in from the cold. However, for the 2698 02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:37,080 Speaker 13: top of the a lot of these there's not a 2699 02:24:37,160 --> 02:24:40,440 Speaker 13: lot of drama left. We know Enter Miami will be 2700 02:24:40,920 --> 02:24:43,240 Speaker 13: king number one out of the East, and we know 2701 02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:46,120 Speaker 13: LA Galaxy will be king number one coming out of 2702 02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:49,200 Speaker 13: the West. LAFC maybe has to hold off the Sounders 2703 02:24:49,240 --> 02:24:52,320 Speaker 13: in Real Salt Lake coming up behind them, but a 2704 02:24:52,360 --> 02:24:55,680 Speaker 13: lot of the drama has really been resolved. As I said, 2705 02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:58,360 Speaker 13: there's not a lot of drama between nine and ten 2706 02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:00,840 Speaker 13: in the West. So really, if you're looking for anything 2707 02:25:00,879 --> 02:25:04,199 Speaker 13: on decision Day, keep your eye on the Eastern Conference teams, 2708 02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:10,880 Speaker 13: especially with Philadelphia Union, Atlanta United, Montreal and DC United. Now, 2709 02:25:11,080 --> 02:25:13,960 Speaker 13: drama there may still be minimal. After all, Philadelphia Union 2710 02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:16,920 Speaker 13: only really has nine wins to its name so far, 2711 02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:19,720 Speaker 13: nine to ten and fourteen. That is a losing record. 2712 02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:22,880 Speaker 13: It would be hard press to justify them, and any 2713 02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:25,600 Speaker 13: kind of same with Atlanta United. It'd be hard pressed 2714 02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:28,640 Speaker 13: to think of any of these teams as playoff teams, 2715 02:25:28,760 --> 02:25:31,400 Speaker 13: especially when MLS is getting their wish and you look 2716 02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:34,520 Speaker 13: to the top and you see the clear differentiation between 2717 02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:38,000 Speaker 13: someone like those teams struggling around five hundred and say 2718 02:25:38,160 --> 02:25:40,920 Speaker 13: inter Miami at twenty one, eight and four, or the 2719 02:25:40,959 --> 02:25:45,080 Speaker 13: Columbus Crew or even FC Cincinnati who each have seventeen 2720 02:25:45,160 --> 02:25:49,000 Speaker 13: wins a piece, and ultimately, this is probably the playoffs 2721 02:25:49,080 --> 02:25:52,920 Speaker 13: that MLS wants at this point, the surprise of Galaxy, 2722 02:25:53,080 --> 02:25:56,160 Speaker 13: notwithstanding coming in from the cold after a long long 2723 02:25:56,280 --> 02:26:02,480 Speaker 13: time of seeding Los Angeles to LAFC more successful crosstown rival. 2724 02:26:02,840 --> 02:26:04,760 Speaker 13: In fact, we might even be getting an l traffic 2725 02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:07,560 Speaker 13: coo in the playoffs if one and two end up 2726 02:26:07,640 --> 02:26:10,760 Speaker 13: meeting each other, but also seeing the return of a 2727 02:26:10,959 --> 02:26:15,240 Speaker 13: powerhouse long term old school club like the Seattle Sounders 2728 02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:18,760 Speaker 13: or the reigning champions and the Columbus Crew and certainly 2729 02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:22,560 Speaker 13: the up and counters of FC Cincinnati, and lest we 2730 02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:26,360 Speaker 13: forget most of all in that number one seed into Miami, 2731 02:26:26,640 --> 02:26:30,400 Speaker 13: and the golden Child himself, Leonel Messi, who MLS has 2732 02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:32,200 Speaker 13: moved heaven and earth to to try to make sure 2733 02:26:32,200 --> 02:26:35,200 Speaker 13: that Leonel Messi will be front and center in front 2734 02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:38,360 Speaker 13: of your televisions, that he is the star that everyone 2735 02:26:38,480 --> 02:26:41,240 Speaker 13: wants to see. And sure enough, he is trying to 2736 02:26:41,280 --> 02:26:43,600 Speaker 13: get back to health and Inter Miami has come on 2737 02:26:44,080 --> 02:26:49,000 Speaker 13: just the right time as everything seems to be coming together. 2738 02:26:49,240 --> 02:26:51,880 Speaker 13: We'll see how much the hurricanes have affected all of this. 2739 02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:55,039 Speaker 13: I know Messi has been actually training with Argentina rather 2740 02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:58,920 Speaker 13: than his own club amid the hurricane watches out there. 2741 02:26:59,240 --> 02:27:02,879 Speaker 13: The story hasn't we've really been written yet on into Miami. 2742 02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:05,120 Speaker 13: I've seen some people asking if this is maybe one 2743 02:27:05,160 --> 02:27:08,920 Speaker 13: of the greatest MLS club's teams to have been assembled. 2744 02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:11,200 Speaker 13: I don't really know about that. I've seen some pretty 2745 02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:14,720 Speaker 13: dominant stuff from Sounders and Galaxy through the years, but 2746 02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:18,080 Speaker 13: I will say right now they are the prohibitive favorites 2747 02:27:18,160 --> 02:27:20,760 Speaker 13: for the MLS Cup and the one that everyone's tuning into. 2748 02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:22,760 Speaker 13: But we shouldn't really discount a lot of the other 2749 02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:25,760 Speaker 13: teams out there. Columbus Crew can absolutely give them run 2750 02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:29,160 Speaker 13: for the money. So can the young club of FC Cincinnati. 2751 02:27:29,879 --> 02:27:32,320 Speaker 13: And while this is all going on, another big name 2752 02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:34,680 Speaker 13: has come over to the Major League Soccer side, and 2753 02:27:34,760 --> 02:27:39,400 Speaker 13: that is Jurgen Klop. Not quite fully so, what Jurgen 2754 02:27:39,480 --> 02:27:43,560 Speaker 13: Klop's job is is with actually with Red Bull itself, Yes, 2755 02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:46,920 Speaker 13: the energy drink company who has many many toes in 2756 02:27:47,000 --> 02:27:49,480 Speaker 13: a lot of different parts of sports across the world, 2757 02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:52,680 Speaker 13: and especially in soccer. He is taking on the role 2758 02:27:52,760 --> 02:27:55,560 Speaker 13: of head of Global Soccer for the Red Bull Group, 2759 02:27:55,879 --> 02:28:01,439 Speaker 13: which includes New York Red Bulls RB, Lapsi RB Salzburg 2760 02:28:01,959 --> 02:28:05,080 Speaker 13: both Leipsig and Salzburg of course in the German Bundesliga, 2761 02:28:05,480 --> 02:28:09,040 Speaker 13: and Klapp himself is German, and the Brazilian club Red 2762 02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:13,560 Speaker 13: Bull Bragantino, and there is a minority stake in Leeds United. 2763 02:28:13,920 --> 02:28:17,000 Speaker 13: For the Red Bull Group as well, Jurgen is taking 2764 02:28:17,080 --> 02:28:21,480 Speaker 13: on a part in strategic vision quote unquote and mentoring 2765 02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:24,920 Speaker 13: the group's coaches, as well as helping with worldwide scouting 2766 02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:29,080 Speaker 13: operations for the Red Bull Group and all of their clubs. 2767 02:28:29,680 --> 02:28:32,240 Speaker 13: I don't think, however, it means he's any closer to 2768 02:28:32,360 --> 02:28:35,160 Speaker 13: coming back to managing. We have to remember that this 2769 02:28:35,320 --> 02:28:38,280 Speaker 13: is a man who just over the summer decided he 2770 02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:41,480 Speaker 13: didn't want to come back and manage Liverpool, and that's 2771 02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:44,120 Speaker 13: he won a lot of titles with Liverpool, he got 2772 02:28:44,160 --> 02:28:47,560 Speaker 13: a lot of accolades with Liverpool, but ultimately decided this 2773 02:28:47,800 --> 02:28:49,560 Speaker 13: wasn't for me, and then he turned down the US 2774 02:28:49,640 --> 02:28:54,080 Speaker 13: men's national team job, which have ultimately went to Mauricio Poticino, 2775 02:28:54,400 --> 02:28:55,960 Speaker 13: and he's turned away a lot of other people who 2776 02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:58,360 Speaker 13: come knocking on his door asking him to manage. But 2777 02:28:58,520 --> 02:29:00,880 Speaker 13: being in the Red Bull group that means ultimately at 2778 02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:05,160 Speaker 13: some point, speculations and tabloids will continue to swirl around him, 2779 02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:07,880 Speaker 13: asking him to see whether or not he will come back. 2780 02:29:08,400 --> 02:29:10,720 Speaker 13: Could he come to MLS, Could he be the manager 2781 02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:12,760 Speaker 13: for New York Red Bulls. Well, I don't think the 2782 02:29:12,840 --> 02:29:14,879 Speaker 13: New York Red Bulls are really in a position where 2783 02:29:15,000 --> 02:29:18,840 Speaker 13: I can really fault their manager right now. 2784 02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Could he be coming home to Germany? Who knows. 2785 02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:23,680 Speaker 13: But I also think that that's not something you just 2786 02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:26,080 Speaker 13: kind of shake off overnight, unless a lot of that 2787 02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:29,520 Speaker 13: stress was being in the Premier League or even being 2788 02:29:29,560 --> 02:29:32,040 Speaker 13: among the Big Four, but that would include two of 2789 02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:34,879 Speaker 13: those clubs I mentioned in the Bundesliga, which is part 2790 02:29:34,920 --> 02:29:37,600 Speaker 13: of yuefa's Big Four. Either way, it's something to keep 2791 02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:40,040 Speaker 13: an eye on as America waits with baited breath for 2792 02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:43,840 Speaker 13: decision day and the MLS Cup playoffs to happen after that. 2793 02:29:44,240 --> 02:29:48,200 Speaker 13: And yes, that does as always mean Lionel Messi, we 2794 02:29:48,320 --> 02:29:50,320 Speaker 13: will see you next time on the World of Soccer, Bernie, 2795 02:29:50,360 --> 02:29:53,959 Speaker 13: where we will start talking about the MLS Cup playoffs, 2796 02:29:54,320 --> 02:29:56,640 Speaker 13: and much more from the world of soccer. 2797 02:29:57,760 --> 02:29:59,840 Speaker 2: All right, ever, so quickly, I want to touch upon 2798 02:30:00,400 --> 02:30:02,920 Speaker 2: Pete Rose, saying I was telling Shay about there were 2799 02:30:03,080 --> 02:30:06,520 Speaker 2: plans to honor the late Pete Rose next week and 2800 02:30:06,600 --> 02:30:10,040 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati at the Great American Ballpark. But according to 2801 02:30:10,120 --> 02:30:12,600 Speaker 2: a sportswriter by the name of Tim Sullivan, he reported 2802 02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:15,800 Speaker 2: that the plans have fallen through. They were canceled due 2803 02:30:15,800 --> 02:30:20,080 Speaker 2: to a dispute among Roses family. We don't have any details. 2804 02:30:20,640 --> 02:30:23,800 Speaker 2: He went on to say, quote services for Pete rosevit 2805 02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:26,160 Speaker 2: a snag. The Reds have canceled plans to hold a 2806 02:30:26,200 --> 02:30:30,800 Speaker 2: public service next weekend, apparently because of dispute among his survivors. 2807 02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:36,080 Speaker 2: In death as in life, the hit King's course has 2808 02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:38,160 Speaker 2: not run smooth. And we all know, and I love Pete. 2809 02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:41,000 Speaker 2: It was only around him twice, but look, he's the 2810 02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:43,360 Speaker 2: hit King. But you can't tell the story without the 2811 02:30:43,400 --> 02:30:47,439 Speaker 2: gambling sandal, the gambling situation, the prison sentence, the divorces, 2812 02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:49,360 Speaker 2: all the other things go along with it. I don't 2813 02:30:49,400 --> 02:30:52,680 Speaker 2: know why it was canceled, but it was. Maybe they'll 2814 02:30:52,720 --> 02:30:57,240 Speaker 2: revisit it at another time. Coming up, the Jets Bills 2815 02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:59,680 Speaker 2: Monday Night. It's the one game I'm really looking forward 2816 02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:02,880 Speaker 2: to seeing because of all the storylines surrounding it. And 2817 02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:06,160 Speaker 2: you know what those storylines are. But let's go back 2818 02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:09,800 Speaker 2: one year. Let's have a little revisionist history. The Jets 2819 02:31:09,840 --> 02:31:14,160 Speaker 2: had a different quarterback and after five games, well, the 2820 02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:17,280 Speaker 2: story is eerily similar to what it looks like after 2821 02:31:17,400 --> 02:31:20,480 Speaker 2: five games in twenty twenty four. Can't make this stuff up, folks. 2822 02:31:20,520 --> 02:31:22,879 Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Fraddle. We are Company of Line from Las Vegas, 2823 02:31:22,879 --> 02:31:25,320 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Tarirat dot Com Studios. Keep it locked 2824 02:31:25,360 --> 02:31:27,440 Speaker 2: right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on 2825 02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:30,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, wrap it up on the 2826 02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:34,120 Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company live from the 2827 02:31:34,200 --> 02:31:37,920 Speaker 2: Tariret dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Before go 2828 02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:39,960 Speaker 2: any further, I want to thank my broadcast team back 2829 02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:42,280 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. They've been with me since eleven pm 2830 02:31:42,360 --> 02:31:49,119 Speaker 2: Pacific time Saturday night, Mark Ramsey, our technical producer, Shay, 2831 02:31:49,320 --> 02:31:52,360 Speaker 2: and of course Kevin Wyrett on the updates. Great job, guys, 2832 02:31:52,480 --> 02:31:56,840 Speaker 2: kind of like Tinker Evers to Chance, could not do 2833 02:31:56,959 --> 02:31:59,840 Speaker 2: the show without you and good stuff tonight. What kind 2834 02:31:59,840 --> 02:32:03,320 Speaker 2: of fool you and what my name? All right? So 2835 02:32:03,440 --> 02:32:05,720 Speaker 2: a year ago the Jets had a quarterback by the 2836 02:32:05,800 --> 02:32:10,480 Speaker 2: name of Zach Wilson. That was the mulligan that Robert 2837 02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:13,760 Speaker 2: Sawah got before getting fired, because well, when Rodgers went 2838 02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:15,680 Speaker 2: down after four plays, what could have been his fault, right, 2839 02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:18,600 Speaker 2: so he got a reprieve. And then, of course, in 2840 02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:21,760 Speaker 2: case you've been on Mars or under a rock, you 2841 02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:25,720 Speaker 2: didn't know that, Robert Salo was relieved of his duties Tuesday. Look, 2842 02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:27,800 Speaker 2: you've heard me say it before. You can buy dance lessons, 2843 02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:29,760 Speaker 2: you can't buy rhythm. He was not a head coach. 2844 02:32:30,360 --> 02:32:34,920 Speaker 2: He'll get plenty of DC opportunities after taking a year off, 2845 02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:38,920 Speaker 2: and we'll go from there. Let me count the ways 2846 02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:41,320 Speaker 2: it didn't work. It never worked, and it wasn't gonna work, 2847 02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:44,800 Speaker 2: and they didn't get along. Here's what I find interesting. 2848 02:32:45,080 --> 02:32:48,280 Speaker 2: Numbers don't lie sometimes. The Jets are currently two and 2849 02:32:48,400 --> 02:32:51,000 Speaker 2: three after five games. Last year under Zach Wilson, after 2850 02:32:51,040 --> 02:32:54,840 Speaker 2: five games, yeah, the Jets were two and three. Aaron 2851 02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:58,920 Speaker 2: Rodgers is completing sixty one percent of its passes. A 2852 02:32:59,040 --> 02:33:03,320 Speaker 2: year ago, Zach Wilson was completing sixty one point one 2853 02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:12,440 Speaker 2: percent of his passes. Hmmm. Yards per attempt. Aaron Rodgers 2854 02:33:12,600 --> 02:33:19,560 Speaker 2: is currently at six point h yards per attempt. Last year, 2855 02:33:19,600 --> 02:33:24,240 Speaker 2: at this time, Zach Wilson was six point one yards 2856 02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:25,400 Speaker 2: per attempt. 2857 02:33:26,959 --> 02:33:27,320 Speaker 9: Hmmm. 2858 02:33:28,760 --> 02:33:34,000 Speaker 2: Last year, the Green Bay Packers were averaging a whopping 2859 02:33:34,120 --> 02:33:38,000 Speaker 2: eighteen point six points per game on offense. This year, 2860 02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:42,280 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers are averaging a whopping eighteen point 2861 02:33:42,360 --> 02:33:46,640 Speaker 2: six yards. Check that eighteen point six points per game. 2862 02:33:48,320 --> 02:33:51,960 Speaker 2: What happened, Lucy? Aaron Rodgers has got to come to 2863 02:33:52,120 --> 02:33:54,600 Speaker 2: terms with the fact he's forty. He can't do what 2864 02:33:54,680 --> 02:33:56,680 Speaker 2: he did before. Like Nolan Ryan once said, I still 2865 02:33:56,720 --> 02:33:59,000 Speaker 2: throw his heart at forty, just doesn't go as fast. 2866 02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:02,840 Speaker 2: They don't throw three picks and then miss wide open 2867 02:34:02,920 --> 02:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson and wonder what the hell's going on? Robert 2868 02:34:06,440 --> 02:34:08,280 Speaker 2: Sala's gone. I know they didn't want to fire him 2869 02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:10,400 Speaker 2: after last season because they didn't think they'd been find 2870 02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:14,120 Speaker 2: a suitable replacement. And Rogers hadn't started yelling at him yet. 2871 02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:16,120 Speaker 2: He hadn't gone on the trip to Egypt and miss 2872 02:34:16,160 --> 02:34:19,160 Speaker 2: stuff yet, and they hadn't had the the bro hug 2873 02:34:19,240 --> 02:34:21,080 Speaker 2: on the sidelines. They went south when they tried to 2874 02:34:21,120 --> 02:34:24,200 Speaker 2: dap each other, only they didn't. That was ugly. Now 2875 02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:27,280 Speaker 2: we got cadence complaints and all kinds of stuff. So 2876 02:34:28,000 --> 02:34:31,480 Speaker 2: Robert sala is no more. In three plus seasons, he 2877 02:34:31,560 --> 02:34:33,880 Speaker 2: went twenty and thirty six. The Jets never sniffed the 2878 02:34:33,920 --> 02:34:37,120 Speaker 2: postseason despite having one of the NFL's best defenses over 2879 02:34:37,160 --> 02:34:40,000 Speaker 2: the last two years. And again he got them all 2880 02:34:40,040 --> 02:34:43,959 Speaker 2: again because Rogers suffered an achilles injury four plays into 2881 02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:47,480 Speaker 2: the season, leaving sala at the quarterback room of wait 2882 02:34:47,560 --> 02:34:54,880 Speaker 2: for it, Zach Wilson, Trevor Simeon, and the legendary Tim Boyle. Yes. 2883 02:34:55,520 --> 02:35:00,840 Speaker 2: His college stats at Yukon one touchdown, thirti, teen interceptions, 2884 02:35:01,440 --> 02:35:03,400 Speaker 2: but he lit it up at Eastern Kentucky after that 2885 02:35:03,640 --> 02:35:07,120 Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns, thirteen interceptions. You do for twelve touchdowns and 2886 02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:09,600 Speaker 2: twenty six interceptions? How did this man make it to 2887 02:35:09,640 --> 02:35:12,560 Speaker 2: the league. That's a show for a different day. The 2888 02:35:12,680 --> 02:35:15,040 Speaker 2: Jets were a disaster last year in offense, still managed 2889 02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:17,360 Speaker 2: seven winners. It was believed, just to me, that Hall 2890 02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:21,280 Speaker 2: of Fame quarterback, that's all we need. Well, not so much, 2891 02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:25,600 Speaker 2: is it. Well, Robert sala is no more? And then, oh, 2892 02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:28,720 Speaker 2: by the way, you ask Aaron Rodgers if you had 2893 02:35:28,760 --> 02:35:30,200 Speaker 2: anything to do with it, or maybe not. In so 2894 02:35:30,320 --> 02:35:33,320 Speaker 2: many words, was the question posed that way? And of 2895 02:35:33,400 --> 02:35:36,760 Speaker 2: course Rogers gives you the babe in the woods routine. Sure, 2896 02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it was his decision. I'm not saying 2897 02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:42,920 Speaker 2: it was his idea. But I don't think he was 2898 02:35:42,959 --> 02:35:45,600 Speaker 2: in a hurry to savor Robert Sala either. So it 2899 02:35:45,720 --> 02:35:49,440 Speaker 2: because of semantical argument. The Jets haven't made the playoffs 2900 02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:51,640 Speaker 2: since twenty ten. It's the longest drough out in the NFL. 2901 02:35:52,080 --> 02:35:54,680 Speaker 2: They haven't had a winning season since twenty fifteen. We 2902 02:35:54,800 --> 02:35:57,200 Speaker 2: were told all they needed was a quarterback. Oh, by 2903 02:35:57,240 --> 02:36:00,440 Speaker 2: the way, they're keeping Nathaniel Hackett. Show me where Nathaniel 2904 02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:02,960 Speaker 2: Hackett has ever had success in this league? Really that 2905 02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:06,120 Speaker 2: you get, that's measurable. But you've got to appease Aaron Rodgers. 2906 02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:09,120 Speaker 2: Nothing more important is more important than that. It's like 2907 02:36:09,240 --> 02:36:11,640 Speaker 2: wishing Billy out to the cornfield in the twilight zone. 2908 02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:14,000 Speaker 2: So I can't wait for Monday night to see what 2909 02:36:14,120 --> 02:36:17,280 Speaker 2: happens is Aaron Rodgers takes the field at two and 2910 02:36:17,440 --> 02:36:20,960 Speaker 2: three with a completion percentage worse than Zach Wilson's, with 2911 02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:24,000 Speaker 2: the yards per tent worths and Zach Wilson's averaging eighteen 2912 02:36:24,040 --> 02:36:28,640 Speaker 2: points a game, just like Zach Wilson Buffalo and the 2913 02:36:28,760 --> 02:36:33,400 Speaker 2: Jets Monday Night. Yes, I can't wait. Do you blame me? 2914 02:36:34,840 --> 02:36:36,600 Speaker 2: It's gonna do it for the Bernie Frider Show. I 2915 02:36:36,720 --> 02:36:41,120 Speaker 2: will be back on these airwaves next Friday night at 2916 02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:45,200 Speaker 2: eleven pm Pacific. Yes, we will have plenty of high 2917 02:36:45,240 --> 02:36:48,880 Speaker 2: jinks and we will cover it all. We'll see you 2918 02:36:48,959 --> 02:36:52,000 Speaker 2: then in the meantime. Up next, Mike Carmon in for 2919 02:36:52,080 --> 02:36:52,640 Speaker 2: Andy Furman