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Speaker 1: let's get into that work for the police departments. Take

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Speaker 1: a couple of these grounds with you between you and

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Speaker 1: me to get the whole thing. But in a long,

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Speaker 1: long story short um, if they look on my hard

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Speaker 1: drops not net down. I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 1: it down the page, there's a I have a some

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Speaker 1: photos in a gallery and this is Those are my

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Speaker 1: some of my law enforcement and I wrote in a

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Speaker 1: thing in the book and it's so true. Lots of

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Speaker 1: little girls read Nancy Drew mystery books and they wanted

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Speaker 1: to become her. Little did I know just how that

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Speaker 1: would happen in my life and who I would become.

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Speaker 1: And that kind of says it all, because when I

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Speaker 1: looked back at my life, baby set. One of the

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Speaker 1: people I baby set for in high school was an

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Speaker 1: FBI agent and I used to go over and visit

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Speaker 1: them when he would be back and him and his

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Speaker 1: wife would go out, but on weekends I'd go visit them,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes he'd give me these crime books and he'd say,

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Speaker 1: when you look at this picture, what do you see?

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Speaker 1: These are actual cases? Oh yeah, well but yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know these crime magazine things they had and and and

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Speaker 1: for some reason it never bothers me. That's why I

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Speaker 1: work with these really, you know, I work on a

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Speaker 1: different level because I'm in with these investigation So what

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Speaker 1: did you see when you when he showed you a picture? Well,

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Speaker 1: I saw that that it was it was not a

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Speaker 1: natural death, and and that, you know, I started to

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Speaker 1: describe things. I started to see things kind of flashes

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Speaker 1: in front of me, and all of a sudden he

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Speaker 1: looked at me and you know, kind of poker faced,

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Speaker 1: and he said, what about this one? And he kept,

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Speaker 1: you know, showing me things I have. I have a

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Speaker 1: very strange thing happened to me, um, and the cops

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Speaker 1: will always I have physiological things when I reenact the crime.

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Speaker 1: If someone's been strangled, my throat will literally feel like

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Speaker 1: you've been strangled. Yeah, mushy. And if I it's been

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Speaker 1: a stabbing, there's lots of blood. I smack my lips,

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Speaker 1: I go like that, and when I'm in level now,

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Speaker 1: this is when my eyes kind of looked like that

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Speaker 1: picture on my on my website, and the guys would

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Speaker 1: already detectives will say, now, if she smacks her lips,

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Speaker 1: that means there's lots of blood. But how I got

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Speaker 1: into this was that that one detective said, well, Rod

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Speaker 1: englerch he's crazy. He was a homicide detective and now

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Speaker 1: my county Sheriff's he works with people like you, and

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Speaker 1: that he's worked with the top people at times. So

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Speaker 1: why don't you help Rod Well A long story short,

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Speaker 1: I said, well, I might call him, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to call him. Well, Vick called him and kept

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes Rods on the phone saying Hi, and Lena,

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Speaker 1: I hear that you're a psychic and that that would

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Speaker 1: you like to come and do some work with me?

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Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, my God, and I kept fighting

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Speaker 1: him in bulk, bulking at it, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden he said to me, Elena, I can teach you.

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Speaker 1: I will teach you how to do this, because I said, Rod,

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Speaker 1: I do not want to be telling people, you guys

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Speaker 1: something wrong and wasting precious time. See, I already knew intuitively,

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Speaker 1: you know not to do that. And he said, I

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Speaker 1: will teach you how to use your abilities. And then

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Speaker 1: I he added the punch to it, and he said, listen,

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Speaker 1: I've got young girls bodies dumped on the sides of

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Speaker 1: the road all over here, and I have to catch

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Speaker 1: this s O B. Well he was convinced it was

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Speaker 1: one person. Yeah, yeah, we have to we have to um,

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Speaker 1: him fast. And he the brokenness in his voice is

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Speaker 1: I'm on a plane and he and that there's a

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Speaker 1: chapter in the book, and it's called the Psychic and

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Speaker 1: the Detective, and that is the story of exactly how

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Speaker 1: I became a psychic detective. And did you catch this person.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know if they caught it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times I am not into that. All

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Speaker 1: I do know. In fact, I will try to find out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: because um he's back now and I have to call

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Speaker 1: him anyway and ask him for my book review. I

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Speaker 1: will remind him about. Yeah, I'd like to know if

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Speaker 1: they caught the person and was it a serial killer? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes these guys are truck drivers and

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Speaker 1: all that. You know, they don't always do it. But

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Speaker 1: what happened with this when I re enacted this, by

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Speaker 1: the way, to our great truck drivers who are listening

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Speaker 1: to you right now. I have a female truck driver

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Speaker 1: that she's listening tonight too. Know. But what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: traffic people, you know, anybody, we love them. That what

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Speaker 1: happened was when I came out of it. Um, I

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Speaker 1: he put his knees up to mine, and he said,

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Speaker 1: do you realize what you just did? And I said no,

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Speaker 1: I was out of it. I said, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: and he said, you allowed me to use your mind

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Speaker 1: as a forensic investigative tool, Elena, And I said, well,

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Speaker 1: did I do okay? And he said, boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 1: did you? He said, do you mind if I show

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Speaker 1: you a picture of of a dead person? And I said, no,

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Speaker 1: it's okay. So he pulls out this picture and it

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Speaker 1: was the girl that he had handed me a picture,

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Speaker 1: just the regular one at the beginning, and I touched

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Speaker 1: it with psychometry and he said, what do you pick up?

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know. I was trying to learn how

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Speaker 1: to do it. And all of a sudden he said

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Speaker 1: rod what? He said, what's her name? And all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden I said, her name is Carol and it's

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Speaker 1: did not? At the time, I didn't know. Did he

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Speaker 1: know that? He knew that? He knew that? Okay, he

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Speaker 1: knew it. And then he said, boyle boy, did you

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Speaker 1: because evidently I re enacted the crime and you got

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Speaker 1: and she had moons exactly by the temple where I

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Speaker 1: was holding my head evidently, and and I was flinching

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Speaker 1: and holding my hands up like fighting someone off of

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Speaker 1: me and on her body. He said, I had touched

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Speaker 1: the exact same places. So these were the way that

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Speaker 1: he taught me to know if it was I call

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Speaker 1: it a red light or a green light. So I

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