Speaker 1: Look out. It's only films to be buried with the Resurrection. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to films to be buried with the Resurrection.
Speaker 1: My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a director, an uber driver, and I love film.
Speaker 1: As Ebenezer Scrooge once said, I will honor Christmas in
Speaker 1: my heart and try to keep it all the year.
Speaker 1: And thank you Lord for restoring when love is gone
Speaker 1: to its rightful place. Every week I invite a special
Speaker 1: guest over. I tell them they've died. Then I get
Speaker 1: them to discuss their life through the films that meant
Speaker 1: the most of them. But not this week. This week
Speaker 1: I use my newly acquired shamanic powers to bring a
Speaker 1: beloved guest back from the dead. And this week is
Speaker 1: the brilliant comedian, writer and podcaster mister Rees James. Head
Speaker 1: over to the patron at patreon dot com forward slash
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein, where you get an extra fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: minutes of chat with Reese where he tells secrets, we
Speaker 1: do three more questions. There's a video and it's all
Speaker 1: uncut and a free check it out over at patreon
Speaker 1: dot com. Forward to last Brett Goldstein, so Reese, James Cammon.
Speaker 1: He's a brilliant writer, an actor, a podcaster, a lover,
Speaker 1: a writer, all the things. If I said writer, well
Speaker 1: he's that too. Is that twice if you like. And
Speaker 1: he's also one of the great stand ups. I loved
Speaker 1: bringing him back to life. We recorded this a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago and zoom. He's so funny, he's so clever,
Speaker 1: he's so brilliant, and I really think you're gonna like
Speaker 1: this one. So that is it for now. I hope
Speaker 1: you're all well, and I very much hope you enjoy
Speaker 1: episode two hundred and twenty seven of Films to be
Speaker 1: Buried with the Resurrection. Hello, and welcome to Films to
Speaker 1: be Buried with the Resurrection. It is I Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 1: and I'm joined today by an actor, a writer, a paneler,
Speaker 1: a podcaster, a fan of the right football team, a
Speaker 1: young Frankie Boyle, a person you put in the scary
Speaker 1: seat on the panel, a touring an award winner, a poet,
Speaker 1: a lover, a sensitive soul, a cat owner, and a boy.
Speaker 1: At most of all, a fantastic, phenomenal, brilliant stand up
Speaker 1: and a person please welcome back. To the show. It's
Speaker 1: the legend, the man, the person, it's estimes. Yeah. Do
Speaker 1: you have to reach a certain amount of time for intros?
Speaker 1: Do you have like a quote where it has to
Speaker 1: be like forty seconds? And that's why you list like lies.
Speaker 1: If I can't fill a minute with the intro, I
Speaker 1: don't have the guest on. That's why I often don't.
Speaker 1: I've been offered like quite a lot of famous actors,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, what have they done, They're just actors.
Speaker 1: Forget it. You'd have to do the full IMDb pay age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that if you If you if you've only got
Speaker 1: one job, I'm not interested to me. Yeah, yeah, okay, good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well everyone everyone now has and podcaster. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: So I'd defy anyone to not have a podcaster at
Speaker 1: the end of it. Um, father, people do you often have?
Speaker 1: I don't have that, but people have. I have son.
Speaker 1: I'm a son, So you could add that in I'm
Speaker 1: a nephew. I'm a nephew. I've thrown in husband or
Speaker 1: boyfriend I suppose could have done. Yeah, you've got to
Speaker 1: fill that quota. What would you want your lead one
Speaker 1: to be your your number one? Because you led with
Speaker 1: actor for me, and I'd say there's very little evidence
Speaker 1: of that publicly, at least. I work backwards to your greatest.
Speaker 1: Your greatest is your standard. Oh I see is that it?
Speaker 1: Oh right? Yeah? You're you know you are an actor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I suppose, not a success, just an unsuccessful one. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you act. You're an actor. You act? Oh? Oh
Speaker 1: I act boy? You act like a bad boy? Oh
Speaker 1: I act? Oh no, you're acted exactly. Yeah I act.
Speaker 1: I'm messing around. I act like a comedian. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all fake. You're actually like a bad boy comedian. And
Speaker 1: then you go home to your cat and you say,
Speaker 1: I love you, I love your cat. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: I say, oh, who's being squeaky today? That's the sort
Speaker 1: of phrase I'll say, so, you know, a gold stage
Speaker 1: and I'll say some something horrible and I'm coming. Are
Speaker 1: you being squeaky? Are you being? Are being spooked? Have
Speaker 1: you been? He's spooking around? And she sleeps genuinely, my
Speaker 1: cat in my arms. I'm not joking, fully nestled in
Speaker 1: my arm. Race it's too much. I have I possessed multitudes?
Speaker 1: Do you think if Dan Patterson knew this about you,
Speaker 1: he would not have brought you one the Week. We
Speaker 1: can say this now now you're out of the rat race. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think that. Well we'll see. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think that. No, that's not an exclusive. I'm joking, that's
Speaker 1: not an exclusive. I just wouldn't be surprised if, you know,
Speaker 1: Mock the Day suddenly turns up on Audible or some bullshit. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's where the money is these days. Brett,
Speaker 1: what are you doing with your public podcast? Are you fool?
Speaker 1: Get the Spotify dollar? Won't Dave by it the Week?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's weird how that's become a very normal
Speaker 1: I sort of phrase to us, isn't it won't Dave
Speaker 1: buy it? Typically would be about like a gram or
Speaker 1: like a knockoff DVD for those listening in America or whatever.
Speaker 1: Reese James is a fantastic comedian who was very much
Speaker 1: a regular on the panel show Mark the Week, which
Speaker 1: ran for seventeen years, eighteen years, many years, seventeen year,
Speaker 1: seventeen years, and it finally ended on the BBC. So
Speaker 1: that means Reese is now destitute available for podcasts. But
Speaker 1: our mate Dave has a TV channel and we think
Speaker 1: Dave's gonna buy the week, so it's gonna be all already.
Speaker 1: I think he has already. Dave has already turned it down.
Speaker 1: He's got a similar topical format already. He's made his
Speaker 1: bed and he's made his mash and he will lie
Speaker 1: in it. So Mark is dead to Dave. But that's fine.
Speaker 1: They've got all the old ones. Why would they need
Speaker 1: to buy the new ones? You know, Dave is famous
Speaker 1: for rerunning Mark the weeks, so just go, oh, we're
Speaker 1: just will mark the art of the other weeks from
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Didn't to mark any new weeks.
Speaker 1: We've got enough weeks. Yeah, And you know what, I
Speaker 1: love doing that program. There's a real sense, as you know,
Speaker 1: with anything, with any kind of work, no matter how
Speaker 1: much you enjoy doing the work, what a sense of
Speaker 1: relief to never do it again. For it's a there's
Speaker 1: a feeling that washes over you. When you said, you're
Speaker 1: instant when they go it's ending, obviously, your instant reaction
Speaker 1: is sort of you know, career based panic or you know,
Speaker 1: a bit of onwi maybe perhaps some sadness. But then
Speaker 1: you think about it a bit further and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just I've got the rest of my life off
Speaker 1: from that particular job. That is sort of how it
Speaker 1: ended up feeling. I mean, it was quite emotional in
Speaker 1: the end doing the last view, but it was also
Speaker 1: just like right done, Chapter closed, book closed, Back to bed,
Speaker 1: what's next? Nothing? Yeah, back to bed. I mean, you
Speaker 1: did it so much, and I know it's such a
Speaker 1: big deal. It's it's huge, and it's certainly a very
Speaker 1: big deal the first time you did it, Like, were
Speaker 1: you still nervous on your you know, a year in
Speaker 1: shows or was it like it's just like going to
Speaker 1: work now? Nah? Yeah, it was like it's a weird thing,
Speaker 1: you know, from performing that. It's like it's still racking,
Speaker 1: isn't it doing stand up? And you've been doing stand
Speaker 1: up for you know, fourteen years or whatever, so it's
Speaker 1: a different type of nerves. But I just realize I
Speaker 1: sometimes think I'm not nervous. I think this with gigs
Speaker 1: as well, and then I realize that I have just
Speaker 1: spent forty minutes speaking to everyone else on the bill
Speaker 1: before I go on going, well, none of this matter,
Speaker 1: you know, none of this matters. We're all going to
Speaker 1: die anyway. It's just pointless. And then you realize, oh right,
Speaker 1: that's nerves manifesting itself. You just don't feel them in
Speaker 1: your stomach anymore. You just say them out of your mouth, going,
Speaker 1: this is all a waste of time anywhere. We all
Speaker 1: just go home and then we just die eventually. And
Speaker 1: that's true, you do do that, yeah, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's absolute bullshit. But then we're a good combo backstage
Speaker 1: because I'm there preparing everyone for my death. I'll be going, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean no, it's gonna be awful and I'm going
Speaker 1: to die and I'm going to die, and you're game.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. It's done, this matter to this
Speaker 1: point because you're going to actually die. Even if you
Speaker 1: die tonight, you'll really die someday. Brett. Yeah. But also like,
Speaker 1: so I'm doing work at time of record, I'm doing
Speaker 1: a lot of working progress shows for a new tour,
Speaker 1: and that fucking spilt milk it's just before before I
Speaker 1: go on stage at those gigs, it's just justified, justified,
Speaker 1: justifiers in and even on stage at the start, it's
Speaker 1: just like, look, I'm not confident this will in part
Speaker 1: to be fucking rubbish, and you're going to have to
Speaker 1: deal with that because it's the process. And you'd think
Speaker 1: after seven existing hours of mine where I've had to
Speaker 1: do this, that I would have come to terms of
Speaker 1: the process enough to be able to just embrace it
Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, wise, working progress. It is hard
Speaker 1: some of its works. I'm done. But no, still, I'm
Speaker 1: just telling promoters, look, okay, I lose them at fourteen
Speaker 1: minutes still, but I do sometimes get them back around
Speaker 1: fifty eight. You don't you know, you don't, I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't have to tell the promoters that would be
Speaker 1: my advice. No, I know, I know. Let them find
Speaker 1: out for themselves. Yeah. Yeah, it becomes a bit self
Speaker 1: fulfilling that you suddenly realize I don't want to have
Speaker 1: lied serious question. If I'm at a race. Now, you
Speaker 1: are well known. Let's say I'd say you're very well known.
Speaker 1: You're you're a TV star, so people are coming to
Speaker 1: see you because they know who you are, in excited
Speaker 1: to see you. Has it made you more nervous doing
Speaker 1: new material than it used to, as in, my god,
Speaker 1: I'm going to let these people down there expecting a
Speaker 1: certain thing of a certain quality. Has that made it worse?
Speaker 1: Or are you fine? Nah, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Certainly in the early working progress show
Speaker 1: is absolutely not and I was probably at my most fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, that's the best bit of being
Speaker 1: a comedian. It's when you've got you doing working progress
Speaker 1: without a deadline. It's the most fun thing in the
Speaker 1: world because it's all ideas, ideas, ideas, which is what
Speaker 1: makes this job good. It's like where I'm at now,
Speaker 1: which is the show starts on touring like two months
Speaker 1: and it's just not I mean, there's there's good bank
Speaker 1: of material there, but it's not how I've won it,
Speaker 1: and so it's frustrating me a lot. And then I
Speaker 1: do start to recognize people who've like come to previous
Speaker 1: iterations of it and are now back, and I'm just
Speaker 1: then analyzing, Fuck I have I even changed it? Is
Speaker 1: this the same as it was a year ago when
Speaker 1: I first started doing this sort of like tentatively? Fuck?
Speaker 1: Fuck fuck do you think I'm some sort of wild hack?
Speaker 1: And that's when it freaks me out. But it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll let them down. It does just
Speaker 1: make it easier, like they'll go with you for ideas
Speaker 1: a bit more and early on, your stuff isn't well
Speaker 1: my stuff anyway, early on, isn't this at its gaggiest.
Speaker 1: It's not, it's jokiest. It's more ideas and premises based,
Speaker 1: and you need some encouragement for that. So, like, I
Speaker 1: think back to all the premises I've abandoned when I
Speaker 1: was brand new, because I was, like, you know, scared
Speaker 1: not selling them, and the audience weren't just definitely on
Speaker 1: my side, and there probably was something good in there,
Speaker 1: but the first time I said it made me feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: so I just never fucking did it again. And I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be handy if you did have
Speaker 1: a room of fifty people who went this might go somewhere.
Speaker 1: If you got your notebook with your old stuff in it,
Speaker 1: with your old abandoned premises, I think they're somewhere, But
Speaker 1: I never that abandoned premises. Well, a great name for
Speaker 1: a shot, great great name for Shade twelve. Right, I'm
Speaker 1: abandoned premises. It's a good name for a working progress tour. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've had this a few times there where people come
Speaker 1: and see me do stand up twice. I hate it.
Speaker 1: It's so depressing. There comes to me like twice in
Speaker 1: a month. There comes to me and they go, I
Speaker 1: really love that. When are you next time? And I
Speaker 1: want to go, well, don't don't come to the next gig. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably be very similar to this gig. And then you
Speaker 1: feel like a sort of magician that's let them down,
Speaker 1: like they go, oh the thing, yeah, he thought of
Speaker 1: That moment we shared was a lie. It's horrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very uncomfortable. There was there was someone who came
Speaker 1: to see my last tour seven times or something, and
Speaker 1: it's like, there are there are unique moments on the night,
Speaker 1: but there are one percent of the show is a
Speaker 1: unique moment on the night. Yeah, and they're also in
Speaker 1: that show was like a couple of things that started
Speaker 1: as ad libs and then only worked if you presented
Speaker 1: them as ad libs. So to continue to be fake corpsing,
Speaker 1: not quite corpsing, but fake like oh shit, I've said
Speaker 1: that wrong kind of thing. But it made it funnier eventually,
Speaker 1: and it is revealed in the bit that it was
Speaker 1: all a ruse. But that moment isn't is like a
Speaker 1: moment that is as it grows the idea that like
Speaker 1: if you you basically can go home on that night,
Speaker 1: and I've got plausible deniability if you see it once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I did fuck it up, and then I'm
Speaker 1: a genius and I made it sound really clever. But
Speaker 1: if you come seven times. By the seven time, as
Speaker 1: I go into that, but you're like, fuck, you know,
Speaker 1: the actions got worse. Oh it makes me feel so sick,
Speaker 1: the idea of that. Yeah, I get it. Fuck, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: I just think, if you like a comedian, see them
Speaker 1: once and then see them again a year later, don't
Speaker 1: see them? Yeah, the same, I say, because I'm going
Speaker 1: to try and I'm going to try and rinse the
Speaker 1: tour for as much as I can, So I give
Speaker 1: to see them once and if it was great, never
Speaker 1: see them again. That's our advice. That's our business plan.
Speaker 1: You know what. I treat comedians like World Cups? Yeah,
Speaker 1: World Cup comedians every four years and not a second sooner,
Speaker 1: and just just don't ask them about their human rights record. Reese,
Speaker 1: you have come back to life. You get a second chance.
Speaker 1: But I've brought you back to life because I like you.
Speaker 1: But what point in your life will you come back to?
Speaker 1: What will you cha? Will you keep the same? Who
Speaker 1: is that is that God? If you like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: could be. I think it's me. Oh, I think it's me,
Speaker 1: but in the sort of never never world. But because
Speaker 1: you see your you consider yourself to be God. I'm
Speaker 1: like an infinite being and I live in heaven and
Speaker 1: I also can come. I sort of move about as
Speaker 1: is my word, right right? All right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: there's the comedy ego and you've been having a while.
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you know what putting back? Putting back?
Speaker 1: You think I was in heaven? No, come on, you
Speaker 1: were you were when you when I killed you? You were, okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough, But for the stuff I got away with
Speaker 1: in heaven, I mean I should have been I should
Speaker 1: have been relegated. It's one of the reasons you've been
Speaker 1: brought back to it. All right, okay, cool, I've got
Speaker 1: to try and make up for it. I want to
Speaker 1: be back alive, and I want to be twenty two,
Speaker 1: nearly twenty three, please go on. Why Well currently I'm
Speaker 1: thirty one, okay, but the reason twenty two, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm so if I'm backstage at a gig now and
Speaker 1: there's a young comic on the bill and they're talking
Speaker 1: about their life. I am the most commudgledly old wise
Speaker 1: sage that you've ever Fuck it. It's ridiculous because I
Speaker 1: looked like a little boy. So it's really disconcerting for
Speaker 1: me to go, don't waste it, enjoy it. These are
Speaker 1: the best dams of your life. But basically being twenty two,
Speaker 1: there's a few things. I just met my girlfriend, very ecstatic, exciting.
Speaker 1: That's the best bit for you now. I said this
Speaker 1: to her. I said, I've got to figure out what
Speaker 1: time i'd come back. I'm going to be twenty two.
Speaker 1: And she said, well, we hadn't met yet, and I said, no,
Speaker 1: we met midway through. I wasn't saying I'd like to
Speaker 1: come back one week before I met you, darling have
Speaker 1: sex everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Well I wasn't saying
Speaker 1: that publicly. But you're looking at my eyes breath. But
Speaker 1: I just met her. It's very exciting, isn't at the
Speaker 1: start of a relationship. But also at twenty two, I
Speaker 1: hadn't even done a solo show yet. At the end
Speaker 1: of a fridge, hadn't done my debut show. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it for another two years. And I met some
Speaker 1: people I did some gig I ended up. I did
Speaker 1: some like open mic gig or something recently, because it's
Speaker 1: not been that great since Mark the Weekended, and I
Speaker 1: was basically it was a bunch of new comics on
Speaker 1: this bill and they were all talking about going to Edinburgh,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what you're doing Edinburgh? They was,
Speaker 1: I'm just doing like a two hander, which is where
Speaker 1: you split an hour. You both you do half an
Speaker 1: hour each, and there's just so little jeopardy. You will
Speaker 1: not get any press or industry or anyone, not that
Speaker 1: those people matter, but it's just literally that's a time
Speaker 1: in your career where it's just about getting better at
Speaker 1: stand up and writing bits and like I say, ideas
Speaker 1: and having fun. But also you're at a time in
Speaker 1: your career where every bill you're on is full of
Speaker 1: your mates. It's all just you and your peer group
Speaker 1: and your age group. Whereas now you get to a
Speaker 1: point where you're all headliners and you never fucking see anyone.
Speaker 1: Oh you're all on your own tour, and then you
Speaker 1: hardly ever see anyone on bills anymore. So you're just
Speaker 1: like that. That's why it feels when it feels lonely,
Speaker 1: is because you go. I mean, we occasionally we get
Speaker 1: to do like a fun mixed bill thing at some
Speaker 1: theater in London or whatever by some of these one
Speaker 1: of the big five promoters as we call them, do
Speaker 1: we I don't know as I call them, but the
Speaker 1: big fun yeah yeah, And we occasionally get to do that,
Speaker 1: and that always makes me feel like, Ah, remember when
Speaker 1: this was every night of the week, when it was
Speaker 1: like every lineup yere on. It was so rare that
Speaker 1: someone wasn't kind of your school year of comedy. And
Speaker 1: then there was a year where that started to end,
Speaker 1: where people started with text and go, I see you're
Speaker 1: at that club in London. I'm over here, should meet
Speaker 1: for a pint? After all, people would go to the
Speaker 1: Sow Theater or whatever after and then that died out
Speaker 1: as well, as you know, relationships started happening and people
Speaker 1: got cats. So that's where I'd go back to and
Speaker 1: I'd make the most of it, because I really didn't
Speaker 1: make the most of it, really truly didn't make the
Speaker 1: most of it. And I'd get in the gym quicker
Speaker 1: as well, get it straight in the gym at twenty two.
Speaker 1: This is very upsetting. The thing we're coming back at
Speaker 1: twenty two. Is there are bits then that you're going
Speaker 1: to have to do again. I mean you'll be a
Speaker 1: hell less stand up when you start. You'll be like
Speaker 1: you'll be doing your three person bill and fucking smashing
Speaker 1: this ship out of Edinburgh. No press, but people on
Speaker 1: the street began. I saw Ese's seven minutes. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, am I allowed to do my material from now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you now, but you're now in the body of
Speaker 1: a twenty two years so it's well, that's that is
Speaker 1: me now. I mean now in the body of a
Speaker 1: twenty two year old, as it is so Actually, no,
Speaker 1: if I'm going back at twenty two, I'm mean now
Speaker 1: in the body of a sixteen year old. That's what
Speaker 1: I look like at twenty two. Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is great and everything. I mean, listen, what we're learning
Speaker 1: here is your wish of being twenty two. You couldn't
Speaker 1: do this, Yeah, I could do this. I should have
Speaker 1: just changed my Wikipedia. Yeah I'm not in Yeah, I
Speaker 1: must tell everyone got resurrected ten years ago. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you wouldn't mind, because I've sort of made a rid
Speaker 1: of a rod from my own back or my materials
Speaker 1: about being thirty one now, yeah, so I've sort of
Speaker 1: made I've made a big mistake there. Go back to
Speaker 1: those abandoned premises and yeah, yeah, yeah, they're all about
Speaker 1: being twenty two, and but they're also so what I'm
Speaker 1: aware of what I was like at twenty two, and
Speaker 1: it's weird because I'm having thought of this, I'm really
Speaker 1: conscious of it now, is that at twenty two, I
Speaker 1: was a bit of an old timer mentally, and so
Speaker 1: I was like trying to live a slightly older person
Speaker 1: life a little bit and was a bit like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm not into not I wasn't not that social, not
Speaker 1: into partying and all that sort of stuff. And I'm
Speaker 1: doing the same and I'm conscious of the fact that
Speaker 1: I regret that, and yet I'm only thirty one and
Speaker 1: I'm doing the same thing now as well. So I'm
Speaker 1: now literally no, oh, just to change it then and
Speaker 1: just go and do the things you wanted to do.
Speaker 1: And I'm still not going to do that. So when
Speaker 1: when I come back on this podcast to forty one,
Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen. You just basically play this
Speaker 1: again when you come back on your this podcast the
Speaker 1: next The next one is Judgment Day and I'll kill
Speaker 1: you again, so don't worry about it, right, fine, Fine,
Speaker 1: So that'll be a dream come true. Takes the pressure off.
Speaker 1: Yeah god, it's the same as Mark the Week, big,
Speaker 1: thank god I'm dead and at yeah yeah yeah, back
Speaker 1: in beds, you know what I mean, the living. I'm
Speaker 1: very exciting to see you again. But they want to
Speaker 1: discuss films. Interesting, isn't it the films that represent your
Speaker 1: life and your taste. So please, let's talk about these films.
Speaker 1: What was the last film you saw? Race, James? I
Speaker 1: saw it two days ago on my own in the cinema,
Speaker 1: the best case scenario. It was called The Menu. Talk
Speaker 1: to me. What did you make of it? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: found it really good fun. What was fun about the experience.
Speaker 1: I was in one of those cinemas with like little sofas,
Speaker 1: like a boogie little studio cinema, little sofas, and I
Speaker 1: was on my own, so I was in an arm
Speaker 1: chair on the end of a row, and then next
Speaker 1: to me was this couple, and the girl in the
Speaker 1: couple wasn't that into it. But directly next to me
Speaker 1: was this bloke and this couple and me and him laughed.
Speaker 1: The exact same volume at every moment, and we kept
Speaker 1: looking at each other like we should be mates. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the vibe where it was just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like and at first I thought, well, a
Speaker 1: lot of the laughs are just those like like out
Speaker 1: of the nose exhale laughs. So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that's a maybe a bit part of the course. And
Speaker 1: then there was one moment that happened where the only
Speaker 1: two people in the cinema who laughed were asked and
Speaker 1: we both were like and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is it. And then not only did we look
Speaker 1: at each after that happened, but she sort of like
Speaker 1: leant forward and looked at me as well to be like,
Speaker 1: fuck off, stay out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it was
Speaker 1: a really good It was a good fun film. I thought.
Speaker 1: Nicholas Holt plays a sort of ed gamble character and
Speaker 1: it sort of this dweey little guy who's obsessed with food.
Speaker 1: It's like about a tasting menu, really, but it's like
Speaker 1: a dark, sort of almost horror comedy. It's it was good.
Speaker 1: It's a really good premise, to be honest. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about it as much as you want, but
Speaker 1: I sort of feel like, if you're going to go
Speaker 1: and see it, you should go in knowing as little
Speaker 1: as possible. But it was really good fun. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Nicolas Holt's like one of those guys at a tasting
Speaker 1: menu who's like he knows everything about the machines they
Speaker 1: used to make the froth and all that, and he's
Speaker 1: asking the chefs all these questions and he's taking pictures
Speaker 1: on his phone even though they said not to and stuff.
Speaker 1: And I texted ed Gamble immediately instead, have you seen
Speaker 1: the menu? You like stuff? You love shows with menu
Speaker 1: in the name, And he said no. I was going
Speaker 1: to go see it, but I'm scared I'm going to
Speaker 1: be skewered. Please tell me they're not going to skewer me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, mate, oh, they skewer you big time.
Speaker 1: It's basically a film about you and James. You ask
Speaker 1: you ed, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, who do you think Rice
Speaker 1: James should play you in the film of your life? Well,
Speaker 1: on the topic, a lot of the evidence points to
Speaker 1: Nicholas Holt, given the amount of times in my life
Speaker 1: that has been brought up to me to my face.
Speaker 1: But in recent years there's been another arrival entry to
Speaker 1: the Nicholas Holt angle, which I think is probably actually
Speaker 1: more accurate and a more fun answer for this so
Speaker 1: honorable mention. Nicholas Holt actual answer, Daisy Ridley Ridley handy
Speaker 1: exactly like me. It's ridiculous. Daisy Ridley till you die,
Speaker 1: that is you. Yeah, my goodness. And Daisy Ridley is great, great,
Speaker 1: very good. And she cut her hair short recently, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, this is this is a nightmare.
Speaker 1: As if I didn't have enough of my play with
Speaker 1: the Nicholas Holt stuff Rice James for Chelsea and now
Speaker 1: Daisy Ridley's cut an air to look exactly like me,
Speaker 1: I mean, for fuck's sake, and then the week gets canceled.
Speaker 1: I'm I don't exist. She's very good. I mean, you'd
Speaker 1: be you'd be lucky. You'd be lucky to have in
Speaker 1: the field of your life. What's the most romantic film
Speaker 1: you've ever seen? Are you romantic? I used to be
Speaker 1: quite quite a sad thing to say, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: used to be I was a big gesture guy because
Speaker 1: I grew up on TV programs like The OC where
Speaker 1: Seth Cohen is a character that taught you that you
Speaker 1: know just stand on a coffee cart and profess you
Speaker 1: love for the prettiest girl in school despite you being
Speaker 1: a geek, and it will change everything and not be
Speaker 1: a humiliating thing that you shouldn't do. Definitely shouldn't do. It.
Speaker 1: Turns out recently, not a coffee cart, but DIDs down
Speaker 1: on a wall and do something similar. Anyway, this story, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't quite do that. I just was like when
Speaker 1: I was an achy brick, So okay, perfect example. You know,
Speaker 1: there's moments in life where you find out that you're
Speaker 1: not You're not how you perceive yourself because suddenly some
Speaker 1: information is revealed about how you are perceived by others.
Speaker 1: For example, yeah, yeah, for example, once we got into
Speaker 1: mock the weekend, did you do a little rehearsal just
Speaker 1: to see where you've got a stand and stuff. It's
Speaker 1: not scripted, and I could say, I could say now
Speaker 1: if it was. In fact it is. It's written by
Speaker 1: the guy I wrote How I Met your Mother. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I played Frankie Boyle, but James sat down. It was me,
Speaker 1: James and Hugh on a team, and James sat down
Speaker 1: and said something along the lines of like, oh, good
Speaker 1: to see we're all on Team Dweeb today or like
Speaker 1: team Geek or something like that. And then I genuinely
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I thought I was a cool comedian.
Speaker 1: I thought people thought I was one of the cool comedians.
Speaker 1: I thought I was seen as cool and I thought
Speaker 1: I was. And I was like, oh, right, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: one of the dweeb comedians. I'm one of the in cells.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. Yeah, yeah, so that was the moment.
Speaker 1: Were you sad for the rest of the day. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't a great moment. But it's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm in good company with James and Hugh, two very
Speaker 1: happy men. But I and we laugh, right, I bear
Speaker 1: in mind, I just told you I thought I was
Speaker 1: the cool comedian. The next story, which is about how
Speaker 1: romantic I am, is that when I was running the
Speaker 1: student newspaper in sixth form, Student Sketch, not very inventive,
Speaker 1: and off the back of when I ran for a
Speaker 1: head boy after the hustings, we decided to do a
Speaker 1: double page spread of all the candidates and their like
Speaker 1: strength and weaknesses, designed like yeah, you guessed it, Pokemon cards.
Speaker 1: As I say, cool comedian, And I didn't write them
Speaker 1: because I was in the running. My mate Cow wrote
Speaker 1: all the strength and weakness of the candidates, and my
Speaker 1: weakness in there was owner of an achy breaky heart.
Speaker 1: And now I didn't know people knew that. That was
Speaker 1: a time when I was like seventeen eighteen where I
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, that's enough of a joke that
Speaker 1: you think that everyone else would get it when they
Speaker 1: read that. I didn't know people were aware of that.
Speaker 1: Just I thought all this poetry i'd been writing about
Speaker 1: that one girl was a secret. But no, turns out
Speaker 1: everyone's aware of my whole vibe. Yeah yeah, yeah, so yes,
Speaker 1: I'm romantic. I would do gestures, they would be misjudged
Speaker 1: and misplaced. And then when I finally found someone that
Speaker 1: I love very much, who is my girlfriend now, she
Speaker 1: was not massively interested in the gestures I would do,
Speaker 1: And that's why they have died out. She didn't need gestures.
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. It wasn't about gestures. It was
Speaker 1: about well, I don't know, I guess it must be
Speaker 1: my dazzling looks she's in today. She's a big Star
Speaker 1: Wars fan, so she's killed romance. She said, no romance, please,
Speaker 1: no ak breaking that sort of vibe. Yeah, but in
Speaker 1: a good but it's a positive way. But sorry to
Speaker 1: answer your question, Oh yeah, go ahead. Well, obviously it
Speaker 1: is before Sunset. I mean, I don't know how anyone
Speaker 1: could argue that anything else is as romantic, and not
Speaker 1: even nothing else in the trilogy as well before Sunset.
Speaker 1: For me, the middle one, yes, the first one is
Speaker 1: obviously it's extremely romantic. The first one yeah, But the
Speaker 1: first one is like, to me, is like Route one
Speaker 1: fictional romance, because that is all about we just struck
Speaker 1: up a conversation on a train and walked until it
Speaker 1: got dark and then did or did not have sex
Speaker 1: and it was amazing, and we're just going to meet
Speaker 1: up and that just sort of thing is like, no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, And that's not the feeling that I
Speaker 1: find romantic. The feeling I find romantic is the fact
Speaker 1: that they spoiler didn't meet back up in six months,
Speaker 1: and which you find out in Before Sunset they didn't,
Speaker 1: and he Ethan Hawke had been very upset about that
Speaker 1: for the last ten years or whatever, and she had
Speaker 1: kind of just like repressed it and tried to fill
Speaker 1: the void a little bit. And that's what it's really like,
Speaker 1: that's what and like the heartache they would have both
Speaker 1: felt in that time apart from each other, just thinking,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, we said we'd meet up and he did
Speaker 1: go there and she didn't go there, and he's basically
Speaker 1: written a book about the whole thing because he can't
Speaker 1: process it. That is what romance is. That is what
Speaker 1: love is. That's why the best ever love song is
Speaker 1: Dancing on My Own by Robin because that is a real,
Speaker 1: actual feeling in love of I'm watching you kiss someone
Speaker 1: else and I'm hearing you can't see me. That to
Speaker 1: me is exactly what it's all about. Now, maybe I've
Speaker 1: got some issues, but that's why I I really respect
Speaker 1: that answer. Thank you. Now. I say this before sunset
Speaker 1: one of my top five final scenes in a film
Speaker 1: is in that film the best endings to a film ever,
Speaker 1: most romantic scene and anything ever. It's so good. What
Speaker 1: a song, what a song, what a moment, what a time?
Speaker 1: To cut? Is perfect? Yeah, absolutely flawless. And then, much
Speaker 1: like your relationship before Midnight is unbelievably unromantic and incredibly dark.
Speaker 1: Would you know what? Yeah, do you know what? I
Speaker 1: haven't seen before Midnight? Because I don't. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin it. I don't mean it's
Speaker 1: so perfect to me before sunset. I mean I probably
Speaker 1: have to see it, don't I. But it's really interesting
Speaker 1: and it's heavy. I mean it's it's it's worth seeing
Speaker 1: and I think it's very real. But fuck, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not quite what you're expecting. May Yeah, they mean
Speaker 1: too much to me as as a coffee. I don't
Speaker 1: want to, but they I know it's going to end.
Speaker 1: It's okay. I'll consider it when you when you kill
Speaker 1: me again, maybe we can discuss before before midnight if
Speaker 1: I get to it. What is the best film you
Speaker 1: ever saw that you never want to see again? Well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot. There's loads so obviously honorable mention uncut gems,
Speaker 1: but I think I do want to. Weirdly, it's like
Speaker 1: it's a film that makes you very uncomfortable because it's
Speaker 1: so tense. But I thought it was. It's one of
Speaker 1: the best things I've ever seen in my life. You
Speaker 1: were there when I saw it, Yes, we were in
Speaker 1: the cursin Yes, yeah yeah, And I was with my
Speaker 1: partner and so unromantic. I could tell the moment yeah,
Speaker 1: she said, don't hold my hand. If you want to
Speaker 1: laugh with the blake next you, that's fine, just don't
Speaker 1: look at me. Can you make a friend? Actually? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why do you think? I'm at the cinema on my
Speaker 1: own watching the menu. But yeah, it's such a it's
Speaker 1: also such a bad It's not a couple film at all.
Speaker 1: I mean it's the most uncomfortable and tense it's possible
Speaker 1: to feel in the cinema. But people complain about that
Speaker 1: because they get worried about the you know, the sound
Speaker 1: mixing and stuff. I just thought it was fucking genius.
Speaker 1: Everything about it. I thought it was amazing. I actually
Speaker 1: like films that make you feel uncomfortable, because I don't.
Speaker 1: It winds me up when people are like, oh, that
Speaker 1: was a bit tough to watch in places, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that means it was good. It fucks me off when
Speaker 1: people need everything to be uplifting. I just think you're
Speaker 1: as child, get a grip feel it's great when you
Speaker 1: live to dinner and you're exhausted and crying. That's why
Speaker 1: this is a hard question for me, because I would
Speaker 1: watch loads of this again. But I will say there's
Speaker 1: two the emotional toil of watching Interstellar. I can't be
Speaker 1: asked with again. I think Interstellar is amazing. I think
Speaker 1: it's amazing, but I don't need to see it for
Speaker 1: a single second ever again. And it's sort of one
Speaker 1: of those films as well, where I think, now I
Speaker 1: know what happens, it's like, yeah, I can't I'm not
Speaker 1: going to enjoy the start. But the one I definitely
Speaker 1: definitely don't want to see again is marriage Story. Oh wow, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I love marriage Story, but it's too real and
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't do it again. It's hard.
Speaker 1: Oh god, It's great, but it's fuck you know, so great.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it the other day, about the
Speaker 1: sequence with the pocket knife, the pen knife. Fucking great movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there's so many good moments, and you know, the meme,
Speaker 1: the Adam Driver meme is a great scene that is
Speaker 1: made to seem ship from the meme, as those things
Speaker 1: often do, a bit like Harry Style, the Harry Styles
Speaker 1: clip from Don't Worry Darling with the accent, which to
Speaker 1: me is just a Northern accent, an English Northern accent
Speaker 1: an American hasn't heard before saying this sounds like it's
Speaker 1: from Texas and New York all at the same time,
Speaker 1: and it went massively viral, and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's just that's what it sounds like from Lancashire or whatever.
Speaker 1: But and even in the context of the scene, the
Speaker 1: escalation makes perfect sense for him to be that angry.
Speaker 1: I was likely, there's nothing wrong with it. But in
Speaker 1: the cinema people laughed at it because they were like
Speaker 1: and laughed at Harry Starles for it because they were like,
Speaker 1: had been told to by the Internet that this is
Speaker 1: a funny, embarrassing moment. And I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's actually fine. It's actually fine. And I feel like
Speaker 1: that a bit with marriage story. But I just like
Speaker 1: it's too accurately reflective of going out with a creative
Speaker 1: person and how fucking selfish we will will be, and
Speaker 1: how narcissistic we will be, blind to the fact like
Speaker 1: we're behaving in this way and blind to it, and
Speaker 1: how fucking hard work it is. I mean, I sympathized
Speaker 1: with her so much throughout, even though I'm him. It's
Speaker 1: one of those films where I was like, she's a
Speaker 1: creative she is, yeah she is, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: she's doing her place, but she doesn't have the same
Speaker 1: Maybe her narcissism is delivered differently, but it wasn't as
Speaker 1: on the surface. But it was one of those films
Speaker 1: I was like, I watched it on my own and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not even going to mention this
Speaker 1: to my girlfriend. She she must not watch this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because this is a propaganda films in this story, and
Speaker 1: we were letting we must never let anyone see this film.
Speaker 1: What is the best action film you've ever seen? Okay, right,
Speaker 1: so obviously the best action film is Connair. Not that
Speaker 1: I've ever seen is Connair. And I saw it when
Speaker 1: I was twelve, So that when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: there were some twins, there were some identical twins who
Speaker 1: I was friends with, who were the troublemakers, who who
Speaker 1: would lead me into all sorts of things. So, for example,
Speaker 1: the first time I went to their house, when I arrived,
Speaker 1: their dad was like, watch this, and then he lay
Speaker 1: on the bed and lit a fart. So that's sort
Speaker 1: of that's the sort of upbringing these twins had had.
Speaker 1: They had a half skating half pipe in their garden. Brilliant.
Speaker 1: Some people have a trampoline, some people don't have a garden.
Speaker 1: They had a full half pipe in their garden, and
Speaker 1: they may said, like day one when I went around,
Speaker 1: they were like things I wasn't allowed to watch at home,
Speaker 1: like South Park. She's like, it's on, and then they
Speaker 1: were like, you got to watch this film, and they
Speaker 1: put on Predator and we watched Predator and I was
Speaker 1: like ten, eleven, twelve whatever, and then Conne we watched him.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well, this is just great fun.
Speaker 1: If it counts though, as an action film, which it
Speaker 1: probably doesn't, then it's Oceans eleven. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a lot of action in it. But would
Speaker 1: you say it's got to have guns and shit like
Speaker 1: that to be action? Is that just a heist films?
Speaker 1: Like you know what, it's you. It's your choice and
Speaker 1: your interpretation of the question. And it's an interesting answer. Way,
Speaker 1: Oceans eleven. You can have it Oceans eleven, but best
Speaker 1: film of all time. That's why it's flawless. Well doesn't
Speaker 1: mean to be. It's the film I could watch. That
Speaker 1: is a film I will watch. I've already seen a
Speaker 1: hundred times. I watch it one hundred more every time
Speaker 1: it's on TV, which is every day and I'm around,
Speaker 1: I will watch it no matter what how far through
Speaker 1: it is. I can pick it up and watch it.
Speaker 1: Everyone's brilliant in it except one person obviously. And now
Speaker 1: there's an accent clip that should have gone viral at
Speaker 1: the time, cucking slagging off Harry Styles. I think it did.
Speaker 1: I think people were. Yeah, people did. Yeah. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: sad thing is, I think I think that people gave
Speaker 1: it the benefit of the doubt of like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: doing a thing on purpose, and I think he admitted no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was really trained. I thought I was
Speaker 1: doing it properly. If Don Cheedo had been in the
Speaker 1: world's biggest boy band for sort of six years and
Speaker 1: this was his first role, you might be a bit
Speaker 1: more like fucking el mate. But but you know, he
Speaker 1: was a sort of known, celebrated So yeah, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: go with corn Air. But Oceans eleven I'm given on
Speaker 1: a role mention too interesting. Of all the films, of
Speaker 1: all the films in the world, of all the films,
Speaker 1: if you had to, which film do you think you
Speaker 1: could have made? And why? Super Bob, easy piece abiss
Speaker 1: I've watched it, could have made that with my eyes
Speaker 1: clothes mate, no fair play, no, no, no, it would
Speaker 1: be similar. It would probably be super bad. Super Bad
Speaker 1: speaks to my youth. I know. That's the point of it.
Speaker 1: It's got the kind of jokes in it. I don't
Speaker 1: think are a million miles away from the sort i'd write.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm writing, I am writing a film at
Speaker 1: the moment, as you know, and it isn't It isn't
Speaker 1: a million miles away in a sort of dynamic and relationship.
Speaker 1: The other one is a brilliant film that I think
Speaker 1: is massively underrated, a comedy film. And again, this has
Speaker 1: a lot of the type of joke that are in
Speaker 1: this script that I am writing. And it's just so
Speaker 1: well done in so high budget. Is the other guys
Speaker 1: it's great, the other guys great. It's unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 1: the gag rate is insane. The performance is a ridiculous.
Speaker 1: There's so many funny ideas and sequences in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's almost as dense as like airplane,
Speaker 1: But it just doesn't seem like it is because it's
Speaker 1: just it's not in one setting. It's so fucking good
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying, oh it's so good, therefore I
Speaker 1: could write it. I just mean it is the sort
Speaker 1: of thing I would be aiming for if I was
Speaker 1: writing something would be along those lines of like super
Speaker 1: bad the other guys, never would I achieve it. The
Speaker 1: joke in the other guys of his wife and even Mendez,
Speaker 1: and he's embarrassed because she's said normal it's fan yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and actually right. So here's why I picked. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons I picked it before i'd seen that film,
Speaker 1: that joke was in our thing. That was in our
Speaker 1: He's got this amazing he's got this unbelievable wife. One
Speaker 1: of characters has this unbelievable wife who's so wonderful and supportive,
Speaker 1: and he just keeps being like, fucking hell all right
Speaker 1: about everything, and he just can't see that this is
Speaker 1: the most wonderful person in the world. And it's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm doing it. But she's just being
Speaker 1: so go out there chasing dreams on its fucking fine God.
Speaker 1: And then I watched that and I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's how to do that. And they also did it
Speaker 1: that she's obviously the most stunning person you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: And he's saying make a fucking effort going out a
Speaker 1: dressed like that? Yeah, so good, so funny. Which film
Speaker 1: have you pretended to like to impress people? So I
Speaker 1: reckon every film, but I do it the other way
Speaker 1: around more I think, which is I pretend not to
Speaker 1: like stuff that I do like to you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's more like when people are slagging something off,
Speaker 1: I sort of more join in with that, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean than when I think, oh, actually,
Speaker 1: so like there was a period where everyone turned on
Speaker 1: Love Actually and was like, actually, it's so problematic and this,
Speaker 1: this and this, and I was just sort of like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's awful. It's the worst film ever, and everyone in
Speaker 1: it's a prick and everyone involves a twa And then
Speaker 1: I'd secretly be like, well, I've seen it eight hundred
Speaker 1: times and it's wonderful. But then suddenly like I'm just
Speaker 1: using this opinion I've heard and then like trying to
Speaker 1: change my pair minds on it when they're watching it Christmas,
Speaker 1: saying this is you know, this is actually a terrible
Speaker 1: and then being like but sucked in sitting one inch
Speaker 1: from the TV terrible film. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: exactly that and like five hundred days of summer, people
Speaker 1: seem to turn on. I just take the end of
Speaker 1: five and doing something, but otherwise think it's great. I
Speaker 1: think I pretended to find Austin Powers funnier than I
Speaker 1: did because I was eleven, Because so we were all like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's not the funniest thing ever, and
Speaker 1: so you had to just be like yeah, or you
Speaker 1: couldn't have any friends. And I probably found it quite funny,
Speaker 1: but not that funny. When I was at school, I remember,
Speaker 1: and this is what would happen a lot. This is
Speaker 1: where I remember doing a lot of pretending. My mate
Speaker 1: said to me, oh no, I think. I said to
Speaker 1: my mate, have you seen the world? Is not enough?
Speaker 1: And he was like yeah, because that's what you do.
Speaker 1: Just pretend you've seen stuff all the time. It was
Speaker 1: more or less pretend you like it. Just pretend you've
Speaker 1: seen it, and then when they question you, you go,
Speaker 1: I've seen bits of it, but you wouldn't if they go,
Speaker 1: I don't you love the bit where that happens. I've
Speaker 1: only seen bits of it. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: It's cinema or not in this era? So what did
Speaker 1: you just go to sleep, randomly went in and out,
Speaker 1: went in and out. Yeah, yeah, snugging someone in the loose.
Speaker 1: I had diarrhea, so I was up and down. But
Speaker 1: I said, have you seen the World is Not Enough? Anyone? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I went, oh yeah, what's it about then? And
Speaker 1: he went it's just sort of about the world not
Speaker 1: being enough. And I was like, oh, yeah, you have
Speaker 1: seen it. That's what life is like when you're ten.
Speaker 1: That's really good. The main one, sorry, in this category, definitely,
Speaker 1: they're all honorable mentions, is the Matrix. I definitely pretended
Speaker 1: to think The Matrix was brilliant and love it, and
Speaker 1: I didn't have a fucking clue what was going on.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the second of it. I respect that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it now, but I was, you know, in
Speaker 1: my early teens when it came out and we were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I watched the new one, the new one, and I
Speaker 1: did like a you know, the Matrix trilogy in ten
Speaker 1: minutes to catch up to remind myself, and I watched
Speaker 1: it and I was like, fucking, I don't understand any
Speaker 1: of this. I understand the first one, but two and three, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't bothered it. I didn't what's that shit? Because
Speaker 1: in my opinion, the first one I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I vaguely get there's this other sort of there's real
Speaker 1: life and then there's being stuck in this or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of just like, oh mate, you know what? Just
Speaker 1: what is this? You just give me in canto or something?
Speaker 1: This is too confusing? Where are the songs with batteries? Oh? God? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which film have you never seen that? You think it's mad?
Speaker 1: You've never seen it? Brett? This is where you end
Speaker 1: the call because I've got so many. I've got so many,
Speaker 1: it's insane. Just give me one. You're going to be glorious.
Speaker 1: They're all huge. I'll pick a big one, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to say him quickly. I'll listen. Tell me them
Speaker 1: really quick, Green Mile, Godfather Part Two, Shore Shank, Redemption,
Speaker 1: Citizen Kane, Ben Her, Wizard of Oz, Casablanca, Raging Ball,
Speaker 1: That is mad? What is the film you love that
Speaker 1: you don't expect anyone else? All right? Fair enough? Married
Speaker 1: on the goal. I can't believe I've forgot You're about
Speaker 1: your little joke? Do it? Is that a bit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There's nothing to say, is there? Because you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: so what could you by? What opinion could you possibly give? Well,
Speaker 1: you get I think I've got past being mad at
Speaker 1: people when they said, you know, people going, oh my god, Janity,
Speaker 1: you fucking prick, and you think people are busy, people
Speaker 1: have lives. What it also means, it's what a treat
Speaker 1: You're going to see that thing one day? You haven't
Speaker 1: seen it? What a treat? With all of those ones
Speaker 1: I just listed, like I've seen bits of them. You
Speaker 1: know what it's about this citizen called Kine. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's about a Tottenham striker. Um, okay. The film. I can't.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect anyone else to like, not because it's bad,
Speaker 1: because it's so unbelievably specific, and it genuinely felt like
Speaker 1: it was only about me. Is mid nineties. Can't believe
Speaker 1: other people relate to mid nineties. It's such a specific
Speaker 1: story and it happened to me. I mean, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what my That's so true of my childhood because I
Speaker 1: was like kind of pretended I got into skating and
Speaker 1: then I was like hanging out with some older boys.
Speaker 1: I did, but not really, and I was very I
Speaker 1: wasn't brave and you've got to be brave. So I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't willing to do anything. And I was just like,
Speaker 1: but I would like I tried, and it was because
Speaker 1: the older boys were doing it. I sort of got
Speaker 1: in with them, but I would just sort of hang
Speaker 1: around them, trying to pretet. I just oh, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. But that's why it's like
Speaker 1: I watched that, and actually I watched that with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: We left and I was like, she did. She really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, but in no way related to a second
Speaker 1: of it, whereas I was like left like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was like it was like my life on screen,
Speaker 1: and I feel so anxious and weird now. And she
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I thought it was just quite
Speaker 1: a pleasant hour and a half. And I was like no, no, no, no, no. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's so that's why I can't believe anyone else would
Speaker 1: be like, if you don't relate to it, I don't
Speaker 1: see why you'd be that fast by it. But I
Speaker 1: think I think you know, we've we've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: We certainly talks about it on the pod. The more
Speaker 1: specific a thing is, the more the more people relate
Speaker 1: to it because it Yeah, if the more specific is
Speaker 1: the more universal it is. I've related to that film
Speaker 1: that I'm not a skater. No, I guess the skating.
Speaker 1: The skating doesn't matter. It's about the it's just trying
Speaker 1: to Yeah, yeah, interesting. What is the film you would
Speaker 1: show a lover, not a romantic loverage, it's your lover. Well,
Speaker 1: it's the film you would show a lover and a
Speaker 1: test to see if you should be together. Get out.
Speaker 1: It would be get out because if they react incorrectly,
Speaker 1: they are racist. So to me, you just got to test. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I think we put too much weight
Speaker 1: on liking the same things in a relationship. You know,
Speaker 1: for example, I like love and romance, but but I
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need that. But I think we
Speaker 1: put too much weight on that. I've got to all
Speaker 1: be into the same things, and I really think you
Speaker 1: shouldn't feel like that. It's nice to have a few
Speaker 1: things in common, but you also want to have debate.
Speaker 1: And it is trating when someone doesn't like the thing
Speaker 1: you like. But at the same time, it's like it's weird.
Speaker 1: We get really I used to get re annoyed in
Speaker 1: relationships when we didn't like to say if I loved
Speaker 1: a TV show or something and it wasn't and it
Speaker 1: affected me and it wasn't loved by the person I
Speaker 1: went out with. But then if a mate had a
Speaker 1: reason that they didn't like it, I would always be
Speaker 1: really receptive and listen to that and their opinion. And
Speaker 1: I think it was just like, I'm too close to
Speaker 1: this person. I really care that they're emotionally invested in
Speaker 1: things I'm emotionally invested in. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I love football and care what happens to Tottenham every
Speaker 1: week and it really affects me emotionally. And my girlfriend
Speaker 1: would not watch a fucking second of football and has
Speaker 1: no interest. And I don't have an issue with that.
Speaker 1: Why is that I completely agree with that. I don't
Speaker 1: mind if you don't if you don't care about football,
Speaker 1: but I do mind if you don't get twin Peaks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah right, And I love and I love twin Peaks.
Speaker 1: Why why? Why is that? You're right? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it sexism? Is it a bit deep rooted sexism thing?
Speaker 1: We go, well, it don't matter, say football? Is that
Speaker 1: what it is? Well, blokes scary and it of course
Speaker 1: she would't understand, whereas oh, oh we're going with the
Speaker 1: woman understand this exactly, Yeah, have feelings exactly. So she's
Speaker 1: watched Telly, yes, you know, so she can get Telly,
Speaker 1: but you know, of course she don't want to understand
Speaker 1: the offside rule. For god's sake. Fuck, how long we
Speaker 1: got It must come from that. I don'tually think it
Speaker 1: probably does come from sexist expectations. We've got, is that it?
Speaker 1: And we're discussing sexist pigs. I think we've just learned
Speaker 1: that we are discussed these sex romantic ones. Yeah romantic, yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is my theory about roman Romantic people are
Speaker 1: in cuts. Basically, it is all the things from films,
Speaker 1: people standing on fucking These are all people who've never
Speaker 1: spent any time with women. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or anyone,
Speaker 1: and no one really wants that. Romance is people who
Speaker 1: never with women. They came, well, it must do big things.
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. You're embarrassing, mate, and you're pressuring. Well, no
Speaker 1: one gestures. That's the whole point of gestures. Is there
Speaker 1: a waste of fucking time? That's what a gesture is
Speaker 1: in general, like an outside of a relationship, as well,
Speaker 1: like a political gesture. What we know that I mean
Speaker 1: is something that held held no actual weight. If you
Speaker 1: want to show someone any kind of love or whatever,
Speaker 1: you just need to do useful stuff for them. It's
Speaker 1: basically what it is, isn't it. It just like relieves
Speaker 1: some stress for them by you know, taking some of
Speaker 1: the workload. There's none of this. Yeah, okay, I know
Speaker 1: I've left you to do absolutely everything in the house
Speaker 1: while you've also got this big work deadline. But look
Speaker 1: at this big bear I got you. That's holding a
Speaker 1: heart that's more to things to tidy. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: if you've actually paid any attention to my taste and decor,
Speaker 1: I like minimalism. Now I've got a fucking giant bear
Speaker 1: in my empty room. Yeah yeah, But yeah, it would
Speaker 1: be get Out because I think, well, one, it's just
Speaker 1: one of the best films of all time. I think
Speaker 1: I still think despite how highly rated get Out is,
Speaker 1: I still think it's underrated. And in twenty years it
Speaker 1: will be talked about. It will be in those conversations more.
Speaker 1: It just we're too close to it, so I need
Speaker 1: you to like it. But also I just think there's
Speaker 1: moments in it that would be really telling in a
Speaker 1: part as if like, oh, you're enjoying them, you're smiling
Speaker 1: at the wrong bit there, You're really into the bit
Speaker 1: where the baddies were winning. So yeah, I think might
Speaker 1: end this. You keep saying, you keep saying yeah, but
Speaker 1: he was in the West wing. It doesn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he devoted for him a third time if he could,
Speaker 1: he did say what's the film that made you the
Speaker 1: most uncomfortable? These teams well? Once again. Honorable mentioned for
Speaker 1: uncut Gems. Honorable mention for Under the Skin. Yes, amazing film.
Speaker 1: Under the Skin made me had to go for a
Speaker 1: walk after it. It was fucking and he was in lockdown.
Speaker 1: I already used my walk that day, so it was
Speaker 1: literally illegal. Honorable mention for Room. But I talked about
Speaker 1: Room a lot the last time I was on how
Speaker 1: uncomfortable I felt in Room. But I'm going to go
Speaker 1: for and again this is gets so Viscerou's so real,
Speaker 1: all my friends hate me, Oh my god, Yeah, which
Speaker 1: I saw recently and fuck, yeah, what a film. It's so.
Speaker 1: I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Speaker 1: I felt I was just like pulling my fucking jaw
Speaker 1: off my head. The whole time it was stress. And
Speaker 1: it's just the subtlest, smallest stress. It's the jeopardy's quite
Speaker 1: low as in because it's just like, it's not one
Speaker 1: of these things where you know someone. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: feel like anyone's going to die or nobody's it worse.
Speaker 1: It's social anxiety. Yeah, oh my god, I thought it
Speaker 1: was so good. I fucking loved it. I mean, we
Speaker 1: know the people who made it so that I was
Speaker 1: also invested in the film being good. Maybe that was
Speaker 1: some of the discomfort. I really wanted it to be good,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was brilliant. It's really really good,
Speaker 1: isn't it. I Mean I was talking with someone yesterday
Speaker 1: and they were saying, like, oh god, what's it like
Speaker 1: to die on the stage? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's horrendous. It's really truly horrendous, the worst thing in
Speaker 1: the world. But it isn't worse than a social like,
Speaker 1: it isn't. Yeah, because because the person said, you know,
Speaker 1: I know what it's like when you're at around a
Speaker 1: dinner table and you say something that doesn't land and like,
Speaker 1: oh no, that's worse, that's worse. It isn't worse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Then death at a gig, because a gig it's strange
Speaker 1: as you don't have to see him again. You can
Speaker 1: walk away. Yeah yeah. And also you're doing something you
Speaker 1: sort of win a little bit, I mean not always,
Speaker 1: sort of win a little bit by being the person
Speaker 1: who was fucking brave enough to get up there and
Speaker 1: do it in the first place. Where is it a
Speaker 1: dinner party? It's like, now we're all we're all talking, man,
Speaker 1: we're all saying stuff. It's just that some of our
Speaker 1: stuff's working. It's just or when you like, oh, when
Speaker 1: you say something that someone's offended by or whatever, and
Speaker 1: like whether it's fair enough or not, you just met,
Speaker 1: you've made someone feel like shit, Or when you like
Speaker 1: get someone's name wrong, or like say something and you
Speaker 1: know that he's standing right behind me. Is an e
Speaker 1: type moment. Sending a text to someone that slagging that
Speaker 1: person off and having to be like, no, it's a
Speaker 1: little joke. Oh god, oh my god, that is worse
Speaker 1: and that is what all my friends hate me is
Speaker 1: like yeah, it's that now. Yeah. Yeah. If you could
Speaker 1: show a child one film, what would it be? And
Speaker 1: what on earth is happening? Race? I don't know how
Speaker 1: to the child. Is that up to me? Yeah, that's upolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean they're young and not a teenager. We're talking like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to perhaps teach them, certainly, Perhaps
Speaker 1: that could be your interpretation of it. It could be
Speaker 1: I want you to have this experience when you're young,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever your view is. But it's young enough
Speaker 1: that this film should hopefully affect them. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: I guess nine or ten, that's just old enough. I
Speaker 1: think to watch eighth grade, and it's going to set
Speaker 1: you up so perfectly to watch eighth grade and go
Speaker 1: because it's really it makes you really anxious. But the
Speaker 1: message of eighth grade is it's fine. No one knows
Speaker 1: what they're doing. It's a bit like Boyhood, I think,
Speaker 1: but it's just quicker, doesn't take as long, and I
Speaker 1: can't see a tenure concentrating all the way through through Boyhood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's that or if not, if they're any younger
Speaker 1: than that, and this is the film, it's a child
Speaker 1: or adult. If they hadn't seen it, it would be
Speaker 1: Paddington too, because it's unbelievable. Okay, but I think it
Speaker 1: comes up a lot on here. So I'll say Monsters Inc.
Speaker 1: Which I think is also unbelievable and is underrated, and
Speaker 1: it came out at a time where I could feasibly
Speaker 1: watch it all as a child, And I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's not I don't know why it's not in the
Speaker 1: conversation with some of these great like animated Pixari films,
Speaker 1: it's not. It doesn't seem to be held up as high.
Speaker 1: And I think it's easily as good as some of
Speaker 1: the main ones, some of the big ones, I think,
Speaker 1: because it's not about like the other ones. It's not
Speaker 1: about you know, death, depression, yeah, despair on we the
Speaker 1: pointlessness of existence. Monster Zinc. Is about that, I'll being
Speaker 1: friends and sleeping and being a bit scared. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: because it's fun. Yeah, I suppose. I don't think it
Speaker 1: would teach anyone anything if I if I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 1: really it's just great. But it's just like if so
Speaker 1: if I'm if I was babysitting my niece, you know,
Speaker 1: is two and a bit and I had to show
Speaker 1: her something, I would be like, we want to have
Speaker 1: a good time, so let's go with Monsters Inc. And
Speaker 1: if she starts crying at the monster straight away, all
Speaker 1: about an absolute shocker have and I. But maybe that's
Speaker 1: what it teaches her to get over it. They're not real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all right. Reese James, you have been so great.
Speaker 1: I've decided I'm gonna let you live, but just in
Speaker 1: case I decide to kill you again, which could happen
Speaker 1: one day. What one DVD would you like to leave
Speaker 1: in your will for friends? Family, Loved One Gone, Romantic
Speaker 1: Loved Ones, thunder Road, Great thunder Road, Jim Cummings film.
Speaker 1: I believe he's been on this show. Friend of the
Speaker 1: Pub Jim Cummings. Love. Jim Cummings's got so many good films.
Speaker 1: Love the Beta, Test, Test brilliant. One of my funniest
Speaker 1: scenes in the film is the test, and they're one
Speaker 1: of the funniest scenes in the films. In thunder Road. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the opening of thunder Road, which is the short basically
Speaker 1: that it was based on, slightly adapted. The opening scene
Speaker 1: is It's one of the best comedy performances I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my life while also being insanely emotional. And
Speaker 1: then the whole film Fuck Me, What a Fuck absolutely
Speaker 1: knocked me out emotionally. That film, fucking how it's so
Speaker 1: and the reason it's in here is because no one
Speaker 1: knows about it. Whenever I mentioned it, no one knows
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Okay, and it's oh, I should
Speaker 1: have given that to my parents. I'll give that as well,
Speaker 1: but they It's just I love it so much. His
Speaker 1: performance is fucking amazing. I love that it's all him
Speaker 1: and he wrote it and he produces it and does everything,
Speaker 1: and he's sort of trying to do really good things
Speaker 1: in the film industry and change the way it's done
Speaker 1: a little bit, sort of take it back into your
Speaker 1: own hands, which is brilliant. But that's not why, because
Speaker 1: even if that wasn't the case, this film would still
Speaker 1: be ten out of ten films for me, even if
Speaker 1: it was made by a big some big wig excellent.
Speaker 1: I fucking love it. Reese James, when's your tour start?
Speaker 1: Tell the people what do they need to know? February
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three, which might be the
Speaker 1: year you're listening to this in In February, it starts
Speaker 1: just going at the moment until the end of May,
Speaker 1: and then it'll probably start up again in the autumn.
Speaker 1: It's now a lot of the dates are sold out,
Speaker 1: So get a ticket. Get a goddamn ticket. If you
Speaker 1: want to see all its material about being twenty two,
Speaker 1: you need to get a ticket to show. Absolutely, Rice James,
Speaker 1: you are wonderful, what a pleasure and enjoy. Thank you
Speaker 1: for doing this again. Have a wonderful life. Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. Good day to you, sir. Goodbye. So that
Speaker 1: was episode two hundred and twenty seven. Thank you everyone
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