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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. This is the warning. I'm Steve Schmidt, and

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Speaker 1: of course the person I'm with right now needs no introduction,

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Speaker 1: the incomparable joy and read welcome. We were talking in

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Speaker 1: that nervous interregnum when people actually get on, when I

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Speaker 1: have to hit the live button, and every time I

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Speaker 1: about what's going to happen next, and I feel right

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Speaker 1: completely hostage by the technology is taking over everything, right,

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Speaker 1: It's one of these guys is making a move on

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Speaker 1: the country. And let me just say, I think I

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Speaker 1: saw it for like twenty years coming. Never liked any

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Speaker 1: of these tech guys. But when you were, when you were,

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Speaker 1: when you were in high school, we're like the same age,

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Speaker 1: like when you where when did the first computer present

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Speaker 1: itself in your life? And people were like, this is

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Speaker 1: a computer? Do you remember that?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 3: And you know what's so wild?

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Speaker 2: We begged my mom, Philamina karl Lomana, who you know.

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Speaker 2: I always think it's fun that her name is Filimina

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Speaker 2: and she married somebody named Lomena so that she had

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Speaker 2: Lamna Lamina in her name. But anyway, we begged Philamina

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Speaker 2: to let us get Atari. You are old enough to

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Speaker 2: remember you Achel. So when Ataris came up, we were like, well,

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Speaker 2: please please let us get it, Please let us get it.

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Speaker 2: So we get so she finally breaks down and gets

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Speaker 2: us the Atari. Right, she does make a lot of money,

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Speaker 2: us the Atari. We were like mesmerized by it, and

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Speaker 2: so that got me thinking that I felt I was

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Speaker 2: high tech. But when we got that Atari, we felt

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Speaker 2: like the kings of technology. But at that time, the

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Speaker 2: only kind of computer you sort of interaction we had

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Speaker 2: at school is they were they were trying to teach us.

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Speaker 3: And this was in twelfth grade.

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Speaker 2: They introduced a class that we could take that was

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Speaker 2: like basic coding, like super basic, and you could take

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Speaker 2: it if you were in advanced math classes. So since

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Speaker 2: I had taken you know, Trigg and Calculus, and I

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Speaker 2: I was totally lost, Like I thought I was super

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Speaker 2: high tech as I had Atarian home. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm elite, baby. I learned that that this is not

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Speaker 2: my tech, is not me tech is not my thing. Nope.

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Speaker 1: I tried to hold the line at the beginning of COVID.

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Speaker 1: I was like, if I didn't need to see you

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Speaker 1: on a conference call before COVID, why do we have

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Speaker 1: to do it now? And I clearly I clearly lost

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Speaker 1: the I clearly lost the fight. But here we are.

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Speaker 1: We got we got a good crowd, forming really happy

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Speaker 1: to see you. First question, of course, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I am good? I look, I really think. I go

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Speaker 2: back and forth because part of me is just constantly

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Speaker 2: everything went down was not the normal way. You know,

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Speaker 2: I've had I've had shows, I've had three shows. I

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Speaker 2: unusual situation where just from a labor standpoint, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm just constantly in touch with my team, trying to

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Speaker 2: make sure they get situated, you know, and in jobs,

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Speaker 2: and so I'm worrying about them. I still chat with

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Speaker 2: my folks a lot. I still chat with my anchor

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Speaker 2: friends and Ted, and we check on each other, and

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Speaker 2: so my you know, I miss everybody that's mostly my thing,

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Speaker 2: and I miss doing the show every day because I

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Speaker 3: So I do miss doing that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm kind of feeling that that kind of fomo

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Speaker 2: the conversation with Subseac. I really actually love getting back

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Speaker 2: I'm like working every day. But other than that, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: When you were, of course, the country's falling apart, the

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Speaker 1: We're I just wanted to say, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: gonna be pain free. And so we'll, uh, we'll get

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Speaker 1: into that, but we will we will prevail. Doctor King

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Speaker 1: talked about in his final prophetic speech his vision from

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Speaker 1: the Mountaintop, and that speech, which is one of depending

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Speaker 1: fourth greatest in American history. But it does not set

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have any worries because he knows what the

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Speaker 1: worry in the in the vision. But the first thing

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you is for every white person

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Speaker 1: talking about the eradication of black history and the contribution.

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Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson has disappeared, Benjamin O. Davis has disappeared, The

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Speaker 1: Tuskegee Airmen are disappeared, and the Tuskegee Airmen are a

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Speaker 1: But the erasure of history. Can you take us inside

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Speaker 1: what that conversation is, right, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean MegaR Evers has been disappeared from I mean you

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Speaker 2: and I. You know, I spoke with the Evers family

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Speaker 2: you know, thinks of Miss Murley as a mother to him,

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Speaker 2: you know, And he had to break it to Miss Murley,

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Speaker 3: And if you think about the fact.

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Speaker 2: That he was interred at Arlington during the nineteen sixties,

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Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty three, before the Civil Rights Act, before

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Speaker 3: MegaR Evers was assassinated.

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Speaker 2: He gives his speech on June eleven, and in the

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Speaker 2: a mass meeting, Medgar Evers is assassinated literally in the

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Speaker 3: So Kennedy again.

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Speaker 2: Before we had actually codified the notion that the thirteenth, fourteenth,

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Speaker 3: They're erasing the history of all of that.

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Speaker 2: When we talk about it in the black community, what

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Speaker 3: Is not shock.

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Speaker 2: Because this has happened before. This is America for us,

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Speaker 2: because our history was erased numerous times. This is not

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Speaker 2: entire history of our sacrifice, service, and contributions was erased

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Speaker 2: daughters of the Confederacy. They rewrote the textbooks and the

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Speaker 2: built to the people who enslaved us, That Roberty Lee

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Speaker 3: So it was already codified.

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Speaker 2: In our textbooks that we didn't exist, that we'd never

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Speaker 2: Who knew that more than one hundred thousand black men

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Speaker 3: What we say is that the people who are shocked.

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Speaker 2: that comes to save us. Right, It's been the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 2: It's been the Kennedy administration, the Johnson administration, the Eisenhower administration,

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Speaker 2: even reluctantly. The federal government has in the end done

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Speaker 1: Have you encountered I was talking last year to a

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Speaker 1: of course he goes and do you know who he's

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Speaker 1: voting for? And I was like, Trump, have you had

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Speaker 1: encounters now two three months in with right? You don't

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Speaker 1: want an archetype or stereotype any anyone, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. Let's call him, right, the twenty

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Speaker 1: five to thirty year old black mail, right that that

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Speaker 1: voted for Trump. He has an absolute white analog, uh

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Speaker 1: in this in this country? Right? And so there's white ros,

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Speaker 1: black bros, right that that that got on board the

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Speaker 1: Trump train. Have you had a conversation just around table,

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Speaker 2: Not in the black community. I've talked to you know.

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Speaker 2: You know it's funny that people think I don't know

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Speaker 2: I've talked to you know, white Trump voters who I

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Speaker 3: We take in more history.

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Speaker 3: I remember, at fifteen years old, my sister.

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Speaker 3: But we understand that we are not slaves.

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Speaker 2: Slavery was a piece of our history, but it goes

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Speaker 2: back further. White Americans have been trained over their lives

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Speaker 2: to resist their own history because they believe that the

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Speaker 2: bad parts, the enslavement of black people, the mistreatment of

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Speaker 2: black people after slavery, the bad parts of their history

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Speaker 2: are the fullness of their history, and therefore they can't

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Speaker 2: they if they accept the negative pieces of it. If

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Speaker 2: they accept that Black Wall Street was burned by white people.

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Speaker 2: It means all white people are bad, and therefore I

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Speaker 2: have to reject that in my spirit. My assistant was

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Speaker 2: recently at one of these plantations that's turned itself into

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Speaker 2: a like a resort where you can go and you know,

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Speaker 2: people play act as if they are doing the history

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Speaker 2: of the enslaved period, and white people on the tour

447
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Speaker 2: were arguing with the actors who were trying to accurately

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Speaker 2: portray slavery because they were offended that these people were

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Speaker 2: portraying slavery in a negative way. There was a need

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Speaker 2: for slavery to have been benign and to have the

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Speaker 2: enslavers to love their slaves.

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Speaker 3: And treat them like family. They needed the.

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Speaker 2: Lie because the lie made them feel good and the

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Speaker 2: truth made them feel bad. That is not true in

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Speaker 2: most other countries. Most other countries can accept the bad

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Speaker 2: with the good. Americans uniquely. But this is not because

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Speaker 2: white people just have so white Americans have some sort

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Speaker 2: of defect. It's because this is the way that white

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Speaker 2: America has been trained, been trained to say that we

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Speaker 2: have to whitewash our history in order to take this

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Speaker 2: big collection of people from all around the world and

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Speaker 2: make them Americans, and that the only way to do

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Speaker 2: that is to preach a benign history in which white Americans,

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Speaker 2: who are the majority, were always good, always decent, always Christian,

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Speaker 2: always benign, and black people were always venal, always uncivilized,

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Speaker 2: always needed to be civilized by white folks needed slavery

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Speaker 2: in order to become Americans, and don't owed anything for

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Speaker 2: slavery because they deserved it, because the blacks from Africa

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Speaker 2: sold them. They It's a need and it's a need

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Speaker 2: that's been trained into folks. And so what I've always

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Speaker 2: tried to do in the way that I talk about race,

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Speaker 2: whether I've been teaching classes or having conversations like this,

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Speaker 2: is to try to get people to understand that history

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Speaker 2: is so big and it is so broad that the

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Speaker 2: negative parts of history are not an indictment of you

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Speaker 2: simply because you belong to the same group. It is

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Speaker 2: not an datment of you to say that slavery was vicious,

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Speaker 2: that it was human breeding, that it involved child rape,

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Speaker 2: and that Thomas Jefferson participated in that that child Sally

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Speaker 2: Hammings was fourteen years old and lived in a gulag

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Speaker 2: under his bedroom where he could.

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Speaker 3: Access her at any time.

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Speaker 2: That does not change the history of Thomas Jefferson and

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Speaker 2: the things he did that you'd think are brilliant, right,

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Speaker 2: the fact that his enslaved son created French fries, but

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Speaker 2: he had to create them for Thomas Jefferson because had

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Speaker 2: his mother, Sally Hemmings, run away, he.

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Speaker 3: Would have sold all of his children.

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Speaker 2: That people were creating slaves by breathing their slaves, their

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Speaker 2: enslaved women and then maybe selling their kids like this

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Speaker 2: was sick. And the people who actually won the Civil

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Speaker 2: War were people like Grant who were heroic, but they

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Speaker 2: have to be written out of history in order for

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Speaker 2: the South to be reintegrated. Right, the South has to

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Speaker 2: have been lionized. The South must be noble in order

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Speaker 2: for it to be reintegrated. See that's not true. It

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Speaker 2: can be ignoble and still be reintegrated. You just have

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Speaker 2: to tell a fuller story. So I say all that

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Speaker 2: to say the reason that we take people like Robert E. Lee,

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Speaker 2: who is a venal man and a loser and rewrite

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Speaker 2: him as a winner is because that is the way

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Speaker 2: that we're placating.

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Speaker 3: White nationalists from the South.

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Speaker 2: The way that we're also placating people who are Christian

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Speaker 2: white nationalists is to say that the most mediocre white

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Speaker 2: man is always superior to the most educated or qualified

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Speaker 2: black man. Therefore, we need to create a what I

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Speaker 2: call a mediocracy. We deliberately elevate mediocre men, mostly white men,

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Speaker 2: and we say that the best replacement for a black

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Speaker 2: four star general at the Pentagon to be the head

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Speaker 2: of the United States military is a white guy from

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Speaker 2: Fox Weekends, and that because this white guy from Fox

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Speaker 2: Weekends replace this black for star general, it is proof

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Speaker 2: to people who relate to the white guy from Fox

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Speaker 2: Weekends that any white man of any qualifications, of any

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Speaker 2: moral quality, of any true religious quality, is always superior

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Speaker 2: to any black man of any quality, of any achievement.

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Speaker 2: And that is a message to white men to say,

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Speaker 2: don't worry, you don't have to be excellent, you don't

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Speaker 2: have to strive. We got you. We're going to elevate

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Speaker 2: you over every black man just by dint of the

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Speaker 2: color of your skin, not the content of your character.

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Speaker 2: And then we're in a say that the only thing

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Speaker 2: we love about doctor King is that he said the

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Speaker 2: speech about the content of your character or nothing.

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Speaker 3: They're doing the opposite.

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Speaker 2: They're doing an un kid and so to me, we

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Speaker 2: got the results that you always get when you put

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Speaker 2: mediocre people in charge. No shit, the people the guy

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Speaker 2: from Fox Weekends and the lady that was a backbench

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Speaker 2: congresswoman who Democrats were like, yeah, she's too crazy for us.

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Speaker 2: We don't want Tulci. Y'all can have her. Those people,

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Speaker 2: these these cartoon characters that Donald Trump when he was

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Speaker 2: There's a reason people have advisors, because advisers would have said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to put these mediocre people in your cabinet,

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Speaker 2: mister Trump. But he's like, no, I get to have

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Speaker 2: my heart's desire. I like these people from podcasting TV.

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00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: They were like, okay, mister Trump, guess what you get.

539
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Speaker 2: Mediocre results. People who do their crap on signal instead

540
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: of doing it in a skiff. People who think it's

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Speaker 2: okay to have a group chat and have fire emojis

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Speaker 2: when they're doing a serious military exercise. And the last

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Speaker 2: thing I will Bobby Kennedy. They're like, well, he likes health,

544
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Speaker 2: he's rich and white. Let's make him in charge of

545
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: doctor ods. Like, you're letting Donald Trump have his heart's desire.

546
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Mediocre president, mediocre friends, people, he's fans of who are

547
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: also mediocre. Put the message again to black folks and

548
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: to women, to LGBTQ folks with PhDs, is you can

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Speaker 2: have all the PhDs. You won't in America. It's the

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Speaker 2: mediocre white guy. They're not gonna pick Steve Smith. Oh no,

551
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: can Steve Smith. He thinks with his brain, we want it.

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Speaker 2: We want Steve Schmid. But like the Steve Schmidt from

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Speaker 2: a cartoon who just has make fun on TV, Like

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Speaker 2: that's what this is, what knows it?

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Speaker 1: They were on sacond So so I wanna I want

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Speaker 1: to say something about a person of exemplary character, one

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Speaker 1: of the Titanic heroes of the country, and that's Benjamin O'Davis,

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Speaker 1: who was the commander and I think age thirty four

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Speaker 1: of the three hundred and thirty second fighters. Uh three

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Speaker 1: point thirty second. I'm gonna get to get the name

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Speaker 1: of it wrong, but he, Benjamin O'Davis, when he is

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Speaker 1: commissioned in the army, is one of two black officers

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Speaker 1: in the US Army. There is Benjamin O'Davis senior, and

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Speaker 1: there is Benjamin O'Davis junior, father and son. And Benjamin

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Speaker 1: O'Davis junior is the fourth or fifth man to ever

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Speaker 1: graduate from West Point. Black Man, but he is silenced

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Speaker 1: at West Point for four years. Nobody speaks to him

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Speaker 1: outside of official business. This man is iron, but he

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Speaker 1: is a tough, brilliant, unbreakable man. And the title of

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Speaker 1: his autobiography is American. The Second World War, really the

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Speaker 1: deadliest duty in the war was probably flying in the

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Speaker 1: Eighth Air Force. You had more casualties of the men

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Speaker 1: flying the bombing raids over Europe than the entire Marine

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Speaker 1: Corps in the Pacific. And in nineteen forty four, in

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Speaker 1: nineteen forty five, the American plane, the most advanced fighter,

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Speaker 1: was the P fifty one Mustang, and there came to

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Speaker 1: be a squadron of planes that was unique because they

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Speaker 1: had their tails painted bright red, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the white pilots in the Eighth Air Force, which was segregated,

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Speaker 1: could not comprehend that there were black pilots flying those planes.

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Speaker 1: Those pilots were some of the best combat pilots that

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Speaker 1: have ever flown a fighter aircraft, and their reputation for

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Speaker 1: discipline and excellence in deadliness was so that those white

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Speaker 1: pilots asked, we want them to escort us on their

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Speaker 1: mission and so Colonel Davis's plane and rude to becoming

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Speaker 1: four star General Benjamin O'Davis was changed the name of

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Speaker 1: the plane to by direct request. And that is the

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Speaker 1: story of valor that desegregates the military in nineteen forty seven,

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Speaker 1: that leads to a guy named Jackie Robinson walking out

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Speaker 1: onto a Major League Baseball field that begins to set

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Speaker 1: a rock down hill that had been lodged in the

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Speaker 1: aftermath in the revision of the Civil War, when what

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Speaker 1: that war was about was lost in the smoke in

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Speaker 1: haze of revisionism in the aftermath. And so now we

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00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: are again in an age where up is down and

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Speaker 1: down is up. But it's not new. The lie has

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00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: swallowed the truth for a while in a hole you know,

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Speaker 1: has swallowed the truth for a while hole in the past.

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Speaker 1: It always comes back out. When you look at this

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Speaker 1: moment right now, I think there is nothing that supersedes

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Speaker 1: the necessity of making Elon Musk stop what he is doing,

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Speaker 1: full stop, disclosing what he has done, and being out

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Speaker 1: of the government. And for me, what Chuck should Umer

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand is the damage is only going to go

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Speaker 1: up from here. Is that Chuck Schumer I think is

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Speaker 1: an earnest guy. I think he's like Neville Chamberlain. Neville

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Speaker 1: Chamberlain was not a bad guy, and neither is Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 1: Neville Chamberlain had an absence of imagination. He looked at

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Speaker 1: the First World War and he looked at an entire

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Speaker 1: generation wiped away. And you come from a Commonwealth country,

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Speaker 1: you know the history here, toym The British upper class

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00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: was wiped out, and Neville Chamberlain could not comprehend that

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Speaker 1: within a generation there's going to be another war, and

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Speaker 1: so he went to Munich. He went through the tunnel,

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Speaker 1: up the mountain, through Hitler's golden elevator to make peace.

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Speaker 1: Since Churchill understood that he could have made the bombing

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Speaker 1: of London stop, but at the price of slavery, and

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Speaker 1: that the only way out was through and victory required

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Speaker 1: the stamina to resist, and so Churchill had this quote,

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Speaker 1: he say, you do your worst, and we will do

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Speaker 1: our best. And so Chuck Schumer has not exercised the

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Speaker 1: leverage to make the worst stop at each point, and

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Speaker 1: at each point, waiting to stop the worst later has

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Speaker 1: encouraged the next terrible thing, which includes the lack of

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Speaker 1: resistance on the confirmation, the willing to die on the

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Speaker 1: hill and to say we'll shut the place down but

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Speaker 1: until unless you find some fit people mentally emotionally that

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Speaker 1: have some stature.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm not a Ron de Santis fan, but

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Speaker 1: Ron de Santis is qualified through on the Pentagon Pete

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Speaker 1: Hegsoth isn't. And so the reality is all of these

633
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: mediocre needs have accumulated, and Chuck Schumer waits to fight tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: maybe if the situation gets serious enough. And that is

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Speaker 1: what is pulling us into the ABYSS as much as

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Speaker 1: Trump is pushing us into the ABYSS. Right, So we're

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00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: being pushed from behind holding in front, and there has

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Speaker 1: to be an opposition that starts to take root, that

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Speaker 1: exists and is uncontrollable by the political powers that be

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Speaker 1: in Washington. We want to hold on to power, we

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Speaker 1: want to hold on the committee assignments and all of

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Speaker 1: this will. I think a lot of us out here

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Speaker 1: are saying, we gotta stop this cold now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even take it back to Lincoln.

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Speaker 2: Right, Good leaders have to make uncomfortable decisions that go

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Speaker 2: against what they think is their political interest. Right. You know,

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Speaker 2: Lincoln had a perfectly great vice president and traded him in.

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Speaker 3: Who was an actual radical Republican.

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Speaker 2: People consider Lincoln a radical Republican, but the real radical

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Speaker 2: Republican was his original vice president. He traded him in

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Speaker 2: for Andrew Johnson for the political expediency of reelection, believing

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Speaker 2: that he needed someone who would appease the South. He

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Speaker 2: chose the Neville Chamberlain route. He chose appeasement. And so

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Speaker 2: you and what you don't do. You know, this is

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Speaker 2: why I sometimes question whether Lincoln should really be at

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Speaker 2: the top of the list in terms of the great presidents.

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Speaker 2: It's what you don't do is trade in your reasonable

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Speaker 2: vice president who vehemently actually does believe that we have

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Speaker 2: to push toward rachela quality, trade him in for Andrew Johnson,

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Speaker 2: and then go to the theater because you have put

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Speaker 2: someone in place who your opposition would love.

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Speaker 3: To place you for right.

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Speaker 2: And so Lincoln made a mistake, I think a fatal

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Speaker 2: error was adding Andrew Johnson, thinking because he is a

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Speaker 2: pro slavery but also pro union Southerner, that this would

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Speaker 2: somehow appease the South.

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Speaker 3: It didn't.

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Speaker 2: He ends up getting assassinated. We end up, you know,

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Speaker 2: the war happens at whatever, So that was a mistake.

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Speaker 2: The other mistake Lincoln initially made is that black Americans

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Speaker 2: began to liberate themselves not long after the Confederates declare war.

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Speaker 2: The other piece of a black history of American history

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Speaker 2: that's been eliminated is the fact that black men were

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Speaker 2: presenting themselves. We're leaving these plantations, We're fleeing. They'd been

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Speaker 2: rebelling and fleeing the whole time. People act as if

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Speaker 2: there was never any No, there were constant rebellions. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't just Nat Turner. There were constant rebellions against slavery

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Speaker 2: and in the the As the Civil War begins to

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Speaker 2: ramp up, black men are leaving the plantations and presenting

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Speaker 2: themselves and saying to union leaders, let us arm us,

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Speaker 2: let us fight, because we want to fight these people

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Speaker 2: more than you do. We want to suit them more

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Speaker 2: than you do. Let us fight. And at first it

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Speaker 2: was a no. Lincoln did not want to arm black men.

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Speaker 2: He had his own deep racist thoughts and beliefs, believed

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Speaker 2: in racial superiority, did not want to arm blacks.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, as they began.

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Speaker 2: To lose the war, he realized he needed to arm

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Speaker 2: the Blacks, and that was a good decision. He went

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Speaker 2: against what was his core instinct and said, let me

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Speaker 2: arm these formerly in these enslaved men who've liberated themselves.

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Speaker 2: Let me go ahead and arm them, as had happened

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Speaker 2: during the Revolutionary War when the British armed black men

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Speaker 2: to say if you'll fight for us, we will guarantee

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Speaker 2: your liberation if we win the war in seventeen seventy six.

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Speaker 2: So when these black men actually joined the war, it

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Speaker 2: turns the tide of the Civil War and we wind

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Speaker 2: up winning because we had fresh arms and did it

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Speaker 2: really dedicated arms. This is why when the war was finished,

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Speaker 2: it was black men and women who lined the streets

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Speaker 2: in South Carolina for something they called Decoration Day. They

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Speaker 2: were celebrating their own action, their own participation in their liberation.

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Speaker 2: Black people were not freed by white people. Black people

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Speaker 2: freed themselves by taking up arms against their oppressor. And

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Speaker 2: Decoration Day is what becomes Memorial Day. So as we

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Speaker 2: head into Memorial they just know that was originally a

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Speaker 2: black celebration of black liberation from enslavement, not by white people.

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Speaker 3: But including black folks.

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Speaker 2: Right, black people participated in their own liberation so that's that.

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Speaker 2: Then you come forward and the idea now that you're

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Speaker 2: gonna that you can actually stand down and allow the

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Speaker 2: most unqualified person possible to run the Defense Department. What

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Speaker 2: is it? Three million people, three million troops, a trillion

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Speaker 2: dollar budget, that this would not be the hill to

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Speaker 2: die on? Right, Democrats want credit for having voted against

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Speaker 2: some of the worst or the worst some of them

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Speaker 2: voting most of them voted against, heg says. But to me,

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Speaker 2: in their place, in Chuck Schumer's place, Mitch McConnell would

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Speaker 2: have burned the Senate to the ground and not let

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Speaker 2: somebody through that he thought should not be the Secretary Defense.

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Speaker 2: It's so important, Chuck. The reason, as you say, Chuck

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Speaker 2: Schumer seems like a nice guy. I don't have anything

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Speaker 2: against him personally. But to me, the hills to die

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Speaker 2: on are who's going to run the FBI, who's going

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Speaker 2: to run the National Security Agency, who's going to run

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Speaker 2: the Defense Department? Hills to die on? And Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 2: has never presented it that way. To the American.

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Speaker 1: People perfectly said right, perfectly said, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hills to die on. If they should have done whatever

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Speaker 2: it takes, go Mitch McConnell on them. Mitch McConnell was

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Speaker 2: a brilliant strategist who was willing to stop the sitting

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Speaker 2: president of the United States from nominating a justice as

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, which he had the constitutional right to do.

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Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell put his body on the road to stop

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama from putting a person on the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Can I can I jump in, yink? I want to say,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say on that. What that means is,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pretend I was the Senator. What it means

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Speaker 1: is that when you get into the cloak room where

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Speaker 1: you're all together and you're not looking for a press

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Speaker 1: release in Politico, but to have a version of this

742
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Speaker 1: conversation which says, ladies and gentlemen, colleagues, I'm not fucking

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Speaker 1: around over my dead body. Will he be the Defense Secretary?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 1: And I will use every power of my office, every

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Speaker 1: parliamentary tool, to make sure that you miss your kid's weddings.

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Speaker 1: Come on, that you miss your kids graduations, that this

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Speaker 1: institution is shut down in response to this. If you

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Speaker 1: impose it on the country, Come on, what the price

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Speaker 1: of this is? It be so fucking high? Go tell

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Speaker 1: them now, come on, what do you need? We'll deal

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Speaker 1: right here, right now. I don't want to tell this

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Speaker 1: in there.

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Speaker 2: But Tony, you say to these people, Jony Ernst will

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Speaker 2: be our secretary of defense. I don't agree with her.

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Speaker 2: I don't like her. Look, I don't like you. Know.

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Speaker 2: I'm the og hater of Ronde Sanders RONDI. And you

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Speaker 2: tell them you pick anybody. You will not put a

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Speaker 2: TV weekend host as our secretary of defense. You will

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Speaker 2: not put a podcaster in charge of our FBI. You

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Speaker 2: will not do this. Harry Reid would have done it.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Harry Reid would have said, over my

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Speaker 2: dead body, it's not happening. This is why we understand

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Speaker 2: that Tuck Schumer may be nice, but he's not ready

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Speaker 2: for this fight. This is a fight to preserve our democracy.

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Speaker 2: To we have already lost our international standing. My folks

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Speaker 2: in Africa call Donald Trump American mobutu. Mobutu sseeko, who

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Speaker 2: is the shame of the Congo? My folks called Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump American mobutu. We have lost so much. I mean,

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Speaker 2: just destroying, cutting, destroying USA alone has opened the door

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Speaker 2: for China to to become a hegemon to become a

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Speaker 2: global hegemon. Our national security is at risk. We have

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Speaker 2: switched sides in the war between Ukraine and Russia. Harry

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Speaker 2: Reid would have said to Democrats and Republicans alike, nothing

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Speaker 2: passes this chamber. I will filibuster post office renamings. You

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Speaker 2: will not you will have budget, you will have we

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Speaker 2: will cut. We will slash the budget for everything. Over

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Speaker 2: my dead body, does that man get to be sexual

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Speaker 2: of defense? Find a parliamentary trip. Find one. It's the

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Speaker 2: one piece of power Democrats still have is that filibuster.

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Speaker 2: Use it. But no, we gotta make We can't let

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Speaker 2: the government set down.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 1: It's all right, yes, no Trump, Trump owns it, and

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Speaker 1: you have to play chicken, and you have to you

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Speaker 1: have to not blink, and you have to be you

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Speaker 1: have to be very very tough. Let me say, we

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Speaker 1: got almost five thousand people on here with us. Everybody

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Speaker 1: find Joy. Read on substack and subscribe. It is Joy's house.

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00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: Go to Joy's house and click the button and follow

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Speaker 1: Joy and support Joy. Joy cannot do what she needs

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Speaker 1: to do without all of you. And while you're doing that,

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Speaker 1: please continue to support the warning. It is appreciated very

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Speaker 1: very much. I'm gonna give the last word to Joy,

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Speaker 1: but I want to just tell a quick story if

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Speaker 1: I can. That my friend Bishop William Barber shared on

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Speaker 1: a call a week or so ago with Beto or Rourke.

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be announced, but Beto and I

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Speaker 1: are going to be speaking together on a site just

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Speaker 1: off of Black Wall Street in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on April tenth,

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Speaker 1: and so more of that coming. It'll be my first

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Speaker 1: speech out in the country. And as the opposition forms,

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Speaker 1: as it comes together, as organizations begin to be stood up,

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Speaker 1: there will be a fierce resistance to all of the

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Speaker 1: and the American people will make it stop. There will

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Speaker 1: be a period of renewal that comes from this. We

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Speaker 1: will watch decency be restored to the Oval Office. We

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Speaker 1: will not seek accountability. We will not seek retribution, but

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Speaker 1: rather accountability. There will be campaign finance reform and lobbying reform.

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Speaker 1: These big companies will need to be broken up. Competition

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Speaker 1: will need to be unleashed in the economy. So this

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Speaker 1: is going to unleash a period of renewal. One of

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Speaker 1: the things we talked about today is race, and talked

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Speaker 1: about this transcendent idea about the equality of human beings

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Speaker 1: that's written on paper that Martin Luther King talks about

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty three. Eight. These words are written by

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Speaker 1: a hypocrite, by Thomas Jeffers Sin, But they are the

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Speaker 1: most profound words ever put to paper by the mind

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Speaker 1: of man. And so now in twenty twenty five, three

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Speaker 1: hundred fifty million of us there's only been seven hundred

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Speaker 1: million Americans ever, half of us who are alive, half

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Speaker 1: of us who have ever been are alive right now,

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Speaker 1: and now, unlike in World War Two, we are truly

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Speaker 1: in this moment before Trump, a nation not without injustice,

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Speaker 1: but a nation where all are equal under the law,

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Speaker 1: and that great strides have been made, and now we

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Speaker 1: must all fight together for this transcendent idea. John Lewis said,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, doesn't matter what boat your ancestors came on.

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Speaker 1: We're all in the same boat now. And so there's

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Speaker 1: a question about what do we do. And I think

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Speaker 1: the first is to recognize that this is a great

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Speaker 1: moral test, that this is the great crisis of the

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Speaker 1: twenty first century, and as American citizens, you're called to

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Speaker 1: do something. There's a scene at the beginning of the

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Speaker 1: movie Patent, where George s. Scott gives a sanitid version

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Speaker 1: of a speech, but in the real version George s

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Speaker 1: Scott playing Patten the real Patent Nasty said, you know,

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Speaker 1: you men, you're gonna be looking back with your grand

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Speaker 1: kids sitting on your lap and tell them that you

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Speaker 1: rolled across Europe with the Great Third Army. In general,

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Speaker 1: George Patten, you were in shoveling shit back home during

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Speaker 1: the greatest crisis in world history. And so now when

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Speaker 1: we're a old kids will look, they'll say, what do

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Speaker 1: you do during this great crisis? What a grandpa did?

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Speaker 1: What a grandma do? And so it's okay to be afraid.

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Speaker 1: Fear is natural. Courage is the belief that there is

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Speaker 1: something worth more than fear. Depression, sadness are real. Hopelessness

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Speaker 1: is real. One of the great Americans, Frederick Douglas, was

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Speaker 1: depressed after the dread Scott decision. You have felt that

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Speaker 1: the abolition movement was failing in the aftermath of the

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Speaker 1: Nebraska Act that allows slavery to begin its creep West.

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Speaker 1: Slavery has become more extreme in America since the Revolution.

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Speaker 1: Physicians are hardened at the beginning. All of the founders

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Speaker 1: found it execrable, said, well, it will die, it will pass.

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Speaker 1: The Atlantic slave trade is banned, but in America the

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Speaker 1: loophole is the breeding now of slaves on farms like animals.

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Speaker 1: And so the institution's hardened. The South becomes more belligerent,

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Speaker 1: and it becomes aggressive because any philosophy like this cannot

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Speaker 1: exist in a state of status or shrinking. It must

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Speaker 1: grow or die. So it is aggressive. It's a cancer.

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Speaker 1: And so Frederick Douglas is deeply depressed after the Supreme

862
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: Court rules on dread Scott, and he is lost. And

863
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: his friend Harriet Tubman sees this, and she says, is

864
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: God dead, Frederick. And Frederick Douglas is a faithful man.

865
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: And Frederick Douglas realizes in an instant through those three

866
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: words that he has been guilty of idolatry, that he

867
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: has put his faith in a supreme court, he's put

868
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: his faith in a president, He's put his faith in men,

869
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: and so there is no sub stack for Frederick Douglas.

870
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: There's no acts. But he realizes immediately he must prepare

871
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: a speech and he has to go talk, and so

872
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: he goes out and he delivers this speech, and in

873
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: the first half of it he tears down the dread

874
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: Scott decision, and he cares down the injustice. But then

875
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: in a back half he wonders if the decision, this

876
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: dread Scott decision, is a necessitous link in a chain

877
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: of events that is yet unseen but providentially ordained that

878
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: will bring about the downfall of the entire rotten institution.

879
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: And so Frederick Douglas's Suns will march under the American

880
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: flag with the fifty fourth Massachusetts Infantry Regiment, and they

881
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: will attack Fort Wagner, South Carolina, and marching behind them

882
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: will be the white men of a New Hampshire Regiment,

883
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: and their battle colors are still on display in the

884
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: New Hampshire State Capital. And so those men strike out

885
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: for their freedom, and the whole institution falls. But the

886
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: struggle for justice doesn't end, And it doesn't end when

887
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: the Voting Rights Act is passed or when the Civil

888
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: Rights Act is passed, and it doesn't end when Barack

889
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: Obama is elected president. And every time a tide of

890
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: justice has come out in this country come in in

891
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: this country, it has gone back out. It is pulled

892
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: back out and maybe this is all ordained by higher power,

893
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: that in the cosmic play of humanity, this struggle for

894
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: justice and dignity and freedom, no generation or sets a

895
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: generation escape it. And so now all the lessons applied,

896
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: all of the humanity that has been seen through those lessons,

897
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: have to be raised up in this moment. And so

898
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: this moment is as great as any moment in this

899
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: country's history. This moment of danger is as profound as

900
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: any that has ever been. Now, we all have watched

901
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: the World War two movie, and we all knew who won.

902
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: And we forget that World War Two didn't last three hours.

903
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: They each day in nineteen forty two, or in eighteen

904
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: sixty two, or in nineteen sixty two, or that night

905
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: before in Selma, John Lewis marched into the clubs, into

906
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: the horses last the same each year is three hundred

907
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: and sixty five days, twenty four hours a day, seven

908
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: days a week. Because they're saying that years are short,

909
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: the days are long, and we're gonna have some long days,

910
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,959
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have some brutal ones, but we will

911
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: have a triumphant one. I promise you, if all of

912
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: you stand up, if you lay down. There's no forgiving

913
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: us for what we lost. And the last thing before

914
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: I turn it over to Joy is remember Thomas Paine

915
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: in a moment when all was lost. Thomas Paine called

916
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: out a father in his day who, holding the hand

917
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: of his daughter, said I don't want trouble. And Thomas

918
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: Payne said, shame on you. If trouble must come, let

919
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: it come in our time and not in our children's.

920
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: And so the brilliant Joy and Read is free from

921
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: corporate media. She is a voice of importance and dignity,

922
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: an American voice, and a time of American crisis has

923
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: been a real pleasure to have her again. You find

924
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: Joy Read at Joy's house. You can find me at

925
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: the Warning. And I'm gonna let Joy and Read close

926
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: this out, say whatever she would like, and then I

927
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: will say goodbye, and thank you all of you, five

928
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: thousand good people on this ordinary day in America, for

929
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: taking time out of your schedules to talk about our

930
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: country and the great fight ahead.

931
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: Over to you, Joy, Thank you, Steve, and I appreciate

932
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: you so much. I read the Warning every morning because look,

933
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: the thing you cannot do is hide from You cannot

934
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: hide from this war. Because when war is being made

935
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: on you, war is being made on you. Whether you

936
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: accept it or not. You are at war, whether you

937
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: want to be or not. That's what the people of

938
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: Ukraine discovered when Russia decided to seize them. And so

939
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: what I will say to tie into what Steve said

940
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: is that, you know, I did a lot of research

941
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: on Mississippi for MegaR and Murley for my book about

942
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 2: MegaR Evers and his wife, Murley Evers Williams. And one

943
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: of the things that you discover when you think about

944
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: Mississippi history is when you you know, add in the

945
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: destruction of the indigenous tribes of Mississippi, the seizure of

946
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 2: their land, the enslavement of African people in Mississippi, to

947
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: the extent that Mississippi became one of the largest slaveholding

948
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: states and also the wealthiest state in America. During enslavement,

949
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: Mississippi was the richest American state. It had the wealthiest planters.

950
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: And I'm currently watching a PBS film about the Gilded Age,

951
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: and the Gilded Age film opens with the statement America

952
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: was founded as a nation of farmers. America's the agricultural

953
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 2: base of America that was the base was agriculture, and

954
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: it was rich planters who controlled America who were British

955
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 2: citizens and who rebelled against sending taxes back to the crown.

956
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: But they were farmers. And the reason slavery was so

957
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: held onto by the South is that they were the rich.

958
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: And what happened during the Civil War was not only

959
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: black liberation but also northern enrichment because it was the

960
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: creation of industry in the North to fund and fuel

961
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: the war that created they're millionaires, right. But at the

962
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 2: end of the Civil War in Mississippi, they had bred

963
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: and imported so many slaves that blacks were actually the majority.

964
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: About fifty four percent of the population after enslavement was black.

965
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 2: And so when after the Civil War the Union troops

966
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 2: occupying the South gave black men the vote, that coalition

967
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: of black men and white men who valued liberty created

968
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 2: one of, if not the most successful reconstruction experiments in

969
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: American history, took place in Mississippi. Mississippi elected blacks statewide

970
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: a black lieutenant governor. There is a street called Lynch

971
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: Street in Jackson, Mississippi, which is not named after the

972
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: Lynch Law or the hanging of men. It is named

973
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: after a man named mister Lynch, who was I believe

974
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: the Lieutenant governor of Mississippi. I'm doing this off the

975
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: top of my head elected during reconstruction. It was a

976
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 2: black in Tan they used to call it the Black

977
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: and Tan Republicans. They were black men and white men

978
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: who together ruled Mississippi. And the only opponents to that

979
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 2: were the planter class who had been the super rich

980
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 2: before the war. Those are the people who wanted back

981
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: the old system, and they fought to get it back

982
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: to the extent that when the Compromise of eighteen seventy

983
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: seven was made that ended twelve glorious years of American reconstruction,

984
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: the only time I believe America actually was a full democracy,

985
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: a multi racial democracy took place in the South, fuller

986
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 2: than in the North, to be honest with you, in

987
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: places like Louisiana and Mississippi that had had black majorities.

988
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 2: The response to that was the redemption movement, the creation

989
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: of things like the ku Klux Klan, and these at

990
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: the time were the Democratic Party.

991
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: Were in the Democratic Party who.

992
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: Opposed reconstruction so vociferously that when that horrible compromise was

993
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: made by Republicans to put Rutherford b. Hayes in the

994
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 2: White House in exchange for removing those Union troops from

995
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: the South. The retribution against black people resulted in thousands

996
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: of lynchings, not just lynchings of mainly black men and

997
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: black women and black children, but even white men who

998
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: were seen as race traders, Jewish men, and women Italians

999
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: who had been imported to replace blacks on the plantations.

1000
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: So Italians at the time in places like Louisiana and

1001
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 2: Mississippi were field hands who were brought in to replace

1002
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: the blacks. The result of that was black people exiting

1003
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: the South in millions by the millions and going to

1004
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: the North. But the other piece of it, and I

1005
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: think the other message we can take from it, is

1006
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: that immediately after enslavement, black people bought into every word

1007
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: of the Constitution, wrapped their arms around the ideas in

1008
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 2: the Constitution, as Frederick Douglas and others did, and said,

1009
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: we will participate in this experiment to create a multiracial democracy.

1010
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: We are fully bought in.

1011
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 2: They did not seek retribution, they sought inclusion. And the

1012
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: people who fought it the hardest were the old, super rich,

1013
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: the plantation class. You then move into the late nineteenth century,

1014
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: which Russ Vote has said is when America was great.

1015
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has said the guilded age is the age

1016
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: we're trying to get back to. That's when America was great,

1017
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 2: according to Russ Vote, who said that at the Madison

1018
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: Square Garden Trump rally, and Donald Trump, who's been convinced

1019
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 2: that McKinley was our greatest president. So we're trying to

1020
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: get back to the guilded age. Well, what was the

1021
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 2: guilded age? It was the northern industrialists who benefited financially

1022
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: the most from the Civil War and who took the

1023
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 2: Republican Party from a party of liberation into a party

1024
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: of oligarchy. Switched the Republican Party's ethos to that of

1025
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: the oligarchs, because these are the people who became the

1026
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: rich while the South became the poor. The southern states

1027
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: that had been the richest became the poorest states because

1028
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 2: they lost their enslaved forced laborers.

1029
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 3: So you had this reversal.

1030
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: But then the answer to oligarchy, the end of oligarchy,

1031
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: was not a redemption movement of violence. Even though you

1032
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 2: had continued lynchings and horror in the twentieth century. What

1033
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: you had was.

1034
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: The American Century.

1035
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 2: What ended the Gilded Age was the American Century, when

1036
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: the response to the excesses of the super rich were

1037
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: to end child labor, the growth of the union movement,

1038
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: the five day work week, the liberation of women from

1039
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: being imprisoned in their homes without the right to vote,

1040
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: Women obtaining the right to own property without a man

1041
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: giving them permission. Later in the twentieth century, women receiving

1042
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: the right to contraception, women being liberated to be able

1043
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: to open bank accounts and invest without a husband's permission.

1044
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: When Merley Evers Williams lost her husband, she couldn't open

1045
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: a bank account because they said, well, where is your

1046
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: husband's signature? She had to explain to the bankers that

1047
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: he is dead. But women obtained rights. Black people, through

1048
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: a lot of struggle, obtained our right to vote, to

1049
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: ratify the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth amendments in law with

1050
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, with

1051
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: a lot of martyrs having to give their lives for that.

1052
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 3: But the twentieth century was a miracle, y'all.

1053
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 2: And it was a miracle that was not created just

1054
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 2: by one group of Americans. It was white former right

1055
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: wing members of the United States Supreme Court. It was

1056
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,480
Speaker 2: black liberators from the civil rights movement. It was Jewish allies,

1057
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: labor allies who were white and black and Jewish and

1058
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: Muslim and all religions. We actually got close to the

1059
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 2: perfect union. The twentieth century is the miracle that our

1060
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: new oligarchs, the new planter class, want to end. This

1061
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: war against democracy is a war against the twentieth century,

1062
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,479
Speaker 2: the American century. The people who want to end it

1063
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 2: are the same kinds of people who wanted slavery to continue.

1064
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: We are not fighting all against each other. We're fighting

1065
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 2: against a class of Americans who would substitute oligarchy for

1066
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: democracy just to get more tax cuts, just to keep

1067
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 2: more money, just to go back to the gilded age.

1068
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 2: That's what we're fighting. We're fighting a new gilded age

1069
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: that's being put in place by people who are also

1070
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: funding lies that are pumped into the minds of our

1071
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: fellow Americans to make them think that their enemies are

1072
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 2: black people, brown immigrants, gay people, and trans kids. We

1073
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: are not each other's enemy. Bishop Barber, who is both

1074
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Speaker 2: of our friend, both Steve and my friend. He says

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Speaker 2: we have to get back to the fusion politics of

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Speaker 2: the reconstruction era. We need our Black and Tan party back.

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Speaker 2: Black folk. Ain't enough of us dissolved to deliberate this country.

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Speaker 2: That's why a lot of Black people are like, y'all,

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Speaker 2: do you We try, We keep trying. We can't help you.

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Speaker 2: There aren't enough of us. We're eleven to twelve percent

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Speaker 2: of the population. We need a coalition of Americans who

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Speaker 2: can tune out the lies being pumped into the minds

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Speaker 2: of our children by this manosphere, all of it funded

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Speaker 2: by oligarchs who will sell us to Russia for tax cuts,

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Speaker 2: who will sell our democracy out for a little more lucre.

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Speaker 2: The Bible says not that money is the root of

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Speaker 2: all evil. The love of money is the root of

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Speaker 2: all evil. That is what the Bible says. The love

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Speaker 2: of money, the lust for unlimited wealth, is fueling the

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Speaker 2: end of our democracy.

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Speaker 3: And we have no choice.

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Speaker 2: If we believe in in the founding ideals, as imperfect

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Speaker 2: as the founders were, if we believe in what this

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Speaker 2: country is trying to be, most of which was built

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Speaker 2: in the miraculous twentieth century, we have to fight for it.

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Speaker 2: And you can fight in small ways and large You

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Speaker 2: can fight with your wallet about where you're shopping. You

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Speaker 2: can fight by by not buying Tesla's. However, you choose

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Speaker 2: to fight and stand up. You must do it. The

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Speaker 2: last thing I'll say before I turn it back over

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Speaker 2: to Steve. My mother's grandmother was born in Ghana, and

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Speaker 2: at seven years old, she and her mother were stolen

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Speaker 2: by slave traders and sent to what was then called

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Speaker 2: British Guyana as slaves, as enslaved people. My mother's grandmother died.

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Speaker 2: That happened in eighteen oh six. My mother's grandmother died

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Speaker 2: in nineteen oh six as a free woman who was

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Speaker 2: a shopkeeper in Essequibo in Guyana. She had not just

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Speaker 2: achieved liberation, but she had achieved economic opportunity and prosperity

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Speaker 2: in one lifetime that went from the nineteenth to the

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Speaker 2: twentieth century. So the time is long. As Steve said,

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Speaker 2: you know, the weeks are long, but the year what

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Speaker 2: is it? The years are short, but the weeks are long.

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Speaker 1: The days are long, the years are short.

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Speaker 3: The years are short. Liberation is possible.

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Speaker 2: We can win this, but we cannot win it fighting

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Speaker 2: each other. So let's figure out a way to create

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Speaker 2: our fusion coalition. Let's rebuild the Fusion movement that Bishop

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Speaker 2: Barber is working so hard on, and let's win because

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Speaker 2: we're not fighting smart people, we're not fighting geniuses. We're

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Speaker 2: fighting the mediocre, and we can beat the mediocre.

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Speaker 1: We most certainly can. Everybody. You can find joy at

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Speaker 1: Joy's House. If you have a young person in your family,

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Speaker 1: I really recommend the book by Benjamin O. Davis American.

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Speaker 1: You got a young per in your family, give them

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Speaker 1: a copy of Matthew McConaughey's book Green Lights. Let them

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Speaker 1: read those two books together as a yin and a

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Speaker 1: yang and understand that the andrew Tates of the world

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Speaker 1: are douchebags, and so is matt Gates, and that these

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Speaker 1: are men by any conventional standard. When we think about history.

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Speaker 1: In the nineteenth century, the Great Plains of the United

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Speaker 1: States looked like the African Serengetti. It was a place

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Speaker 1: of incomparable beauty, and fifty million mammals were killed in

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Speaker 1: a fifteen year period by the US army to subjugate

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Speaker 1: and starve the indigenous peoples who had been on this

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Speaker 1: land for six hundred years onto the reservations. And so

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Speaker 1: what was It's true can be erased and it can

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Speaker 1: be forgotten. But in this country, truth doesn't flow from

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Speaker 1: the White House. It's everywhere all around us, and our

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01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: history is available for us to access. So this is

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Speaker 1: a moment everybody stand up, fight, get involved, and really

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about is a destination. Barack Obama talked

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Speaker 1: about it, Martin Luther King talked about it all the

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Speaker 1: way back. John Winthrop talked about it. Ronald Dragan talked

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Speaker 1: about it. What we must do is finish the work

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01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 1: of building the city upon a hill, and that city

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Speaker 1: is a just city. That city is a place where

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Speaker 1: all people are met, where they are at the place

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Speaker 1: of their dignity, that each life has purpose and meaning

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Speaker 1: and worth and value, and that the country's freedoms don't

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Speaker 1: flow from maga, they flow from a creator who is

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Speaker 1: beyond our comprehension, and that a free people will defend

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: their freedom. We have become sloppy in this country around

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Speaker 1: our use of the word democracy. So I'm going to

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Speaker 1: close out something by saying this, go everybody, five point

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Speaker 1: three thousand people and read the Alexander Stevens Cornerstone speech

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Speaker 1: about the Confederacy. That's what we're fighting. The South had

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Speaker 1: democracy and it was for slavery. The North had democracy

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Speaker 1: and it was for freedom. We must be for freedom,

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Speaker 1: We must be for liberty, and we must be for justice.

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Speaker 1: And that means picking up a sign and standing in

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Speaker 1: front of a Tesla dealership and driving that company into

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Speaker 1: bankruptcy because it must not survive because Elon Musk is

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: waged war a government of the people, by the people,

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Speaker 1: for the people, and that price is high. These companies,

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Speaker 1: filled with capitulant leaders will all pay a price for

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Speaker 1: their faithlessness later. But now it's time for the faithful

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Speaker 1: to stand up. And it doesn't matter if you're a

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Speaker 1: democratic socialist, doesn't matter if you're a former Conservative. What

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Speaker 1: matters is your faithfulness to the United States Constitution, to

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Speaker 1: your fellow Americans, tolerance for a great mosaic of disagreement

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Speaker 1: about how to solve problems, and a deep intolerance for

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Speaker 1: any lie that holds one race is superior than another,

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Speaker 1: that that race makes you better than another. That character

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Speaker 1: is how much money you have, and that wisdom is

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Speaker 1: how much wealth and gold is in some Swiss account somewhere.

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Speaker 1: The genius that we must summon is the genius of

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Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas and Martin, Luther King and John Lewis and

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Speaker 1: George Washington and Lincoln and Grant and Harriet Tubman and

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Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton, who have created something sublime that is now

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Speaker 1: facing a maximum season of testing. At the precise moment

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Speaker 1: we begin the celebration of our two hundred and fiftieth

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Speaker 1: year of independence. On April nineteenth, an officious king tried

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Speaker 1: to lay down the law on a road between Lexington

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Speaker 1: and Conquered and there was a shot heard around the world,

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Speaker 1: and it gave birth to the United States. In the

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Speaker 1: United States, will not lie down and become Trump is

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Speaker 1: dam So I'd like to thank everybody again, Joyce House,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your time. Be in the fight, be

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Speaker 1: courageous in the fight. If you're a Canadian, know there

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Speaker 1: are scores of tens of millions of us who stand

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you all.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Steve.

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Speaker 1: I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning. I invite you

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Speaker 1: to join this community where I promise to be honest,

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Speaker 1: blunt and direct about what is happening in this country.

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Speaker 1: America is in crisis. Follow and subscribe to this channel

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Speaker 1: and on substack. Thank you