WEBVTT - Conversations with Katie Austin 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:06.680 This is Conversationous with Olivia Jade in My Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.360 Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of Conversations with 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.840 Olivia Jade. I am really stoked for today's guest, and 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.480 she's actually a longtime friend when I had my app. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.320 I had an app when I was like, I think 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.120 fifteen or sixteen, and we did a video way back 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.400 in the day. Her name is Katie Austin. She's an 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:34.680 amazing fitness and health connoisseur, influencer, and um, I'm just 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.400 really excited to have her on to give us some 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.720 insight on all things health and wellness. So please welcome 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:49.519 Katie Austin. Hi, Katie, Hello, thank you so much for 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.640 coming on my podcast. I'm so excited. I was just 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.559 when I was introwing you, I was like, so when 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.680 I was like fifteen or sixteen, I had an app 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.600 and Katie and I phoned the video. Do you remember that? 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.920 I remember that. You're actually unlocking a memory for me 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.880 right now, because I didn't remember it before. You just 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.400 said that, like, I actually don't remember, and now I do. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.080 It was so funny you came to my apartment. Yeah, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.240 that was your old place college. I know. I just 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.640 grated from college and you came over and we cleared 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.720 out the living room and we shot like how many 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.680 workout videos. I don't know, but I remember I was 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.680 super young and I had no idea what I was doing. 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.000 Like I never worked out. I was probably what fourteen 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:33.920 or fifteen? You were so young? Oh my god, so 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.959 crazy crazy. So we go way back. But for those 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.039 um listening that don't know who you are, can you 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.840 give like a little intro as to who you are 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:46.000 and what you do? Yes? So long story short. Um, 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.440 I am from Virginia. I went to USC and then 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.360 after college, I became a sports broadcaster at Fox Sports West. 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:57.520 Then um, the last like I would say three ish years, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.720 I've been really focusing on my fitness brand and being 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.120 like more like a fitness personality and doing you know 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:06.240 more in homeworkouts especially that ramped everything up too. So 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.360 I have my own app. It's called the Katie Austin App. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.360 I have over a hundred and seventy workout classes there. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.200 I have my own show called Austin a f I 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.560 have my own um snapchat show too. It's a cooking show. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.400 So I do like I show like different recipes of 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.440 the week, and then I just became a Sports Illustrated 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.280 swimsuit model. So the issue comes out in a month. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.079 I think, I don't know if I'm lat today, but 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.839 it comes up. I'm really excited. Oh my god, I'm 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:35.120 so proud of you. That's huge. Thank you. It's been 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.480 a really really long process and it's like so kind 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.600 of crazy to say, and I guess I'll officially be 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.720 a rookie when it comes out. I already shot in 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.160 Europe and in Montenegro, which was crazy. It's been the 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.720 longest journey ever to get to be an s I. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.520 I had to audition. I first audition in two thousand 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:57.120 seventeen and then I don't remember seeing this, yeah, and 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.640 then in two thousand and twenty, I auditioned again and 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.880 it was a year and a half process and then 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.519 I ended up winning, and so I am going to 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.480 be in the magazine, which is crazy. That's insane. What's 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.960 that process? Like? Did you? Did you do? They just 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:14.079 host auditions and you go somewhere and then so basically 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.040 they opened up to the public. Anyone online can join 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.000 if you like. That's the whole reason for swim Search. 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.640 They opened it up to you know, everyone who doesn't 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.400 have an agent, So for someone like me who is 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.679 not a real model in quotes per se. So I 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.400 auditioned online. I turned in my tape, I posted on Instagram, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.520 and then about six months later, I got a call 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.240 back and there was twenty two thousand girls auditioning and 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:37.640 I got a call back. I think it was like 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.400 two girls, and then it narrowed it down to thirteen 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.000 girls and then um, yeah, it was a year and 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.920 a half process and then I ended up winning it. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.400 And it's just been really wild, a lot of different 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.400 like little things here and there, like little milestones of 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:53.240 the year and a half, like I shot in Atlantic 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.200 City and then I walked in Sports Illustrat and swim 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:01.240 Suit runway show for Miami Swim Weeks, and then yeah, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:05.680 I just kept doing like social stuff and yeah, it's crazy. Still, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:10.040 that's incredible. Congratulations, that's huge. I can't wait to see 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.920 the photos. I haven't even seen them. They haven't sent 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.800 you any No, I mean, I got one debut photo. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.600 But when I opened the magazine along with the rest 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.680 of the public, is when I will find out what photos. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.680 Oh my god, they're gonna look amazing. So you've been 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.200 into fitness obviously for a while because you grew up 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.960 around it. Yes, So do you want to talk about 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.120 that a little bit? Yeah, I would love to. So 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.480 I grew up honestly in the fitness industry. It sounds crazy, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.440 but since I was six weeks old, or you could 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.400 even say like in the womb, because I was in 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.799 my mom's pregnancy videos and so she was doing workout 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.480 videos with me in her belly. So literally, I've been 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.200 in the fitness industry forever. At my first workout video 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.480 when I was like actually learning a choreograph routine was 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:53.880 when I was seven years old. I had to go 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.880 through like so much practice to learn workouts, and so 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.039 I've really been in the industry for a while because 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.599 my mom Denny s Austin. But a lot of people 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.280 listening to us right now will probably not know who 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.120 she is because she is a lot longer than us 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.520 because we were so young. She was like in the 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.800 eighties and nineties with like Jane Fonda, um and so 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.120 basically she had her own show on ESPN for eleven years, 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.240 Lifetime for about fifteen years, and um, so she has 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.599 like the record for like most workout vhs is sold 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:25.080 which is not possible these days. Obviously no one's gonna 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.240 buy a VHS. So yeah, I'm in the industry for 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:28.920 a while, but I never really thought about it as 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.480 a career because it's just I don't know, you just 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.640 don't really think about it all. So you're like you're 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.240 younger and stuff, and I don't really know how it 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.239 happened in the fitness industry. And so I graduated college 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.880 and thank goodness, like social media was a thing when 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.760 I was graduating, and that's how I really got started. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.480 Did you go to school for fitness or did you 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.240 just grow up around it? And then that's kind of 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:54.239 like self taught. So honestly, I don't I didn't get 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.120 a actual like degree in college for fitness. I emphasized 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.839 in health, but I am a certified group first personal 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.320 trainer and stuff. And I also have you know, like 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.840 my health degree um in a in a separate thing. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.320 But at the same time, like I went to USC 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.320 for broadcast journalism and because I was athlete there. I 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.240 was an athlete my entire life and it was just 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:14.920 like very instilled in me from a young age. My 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.840 dad's a professional athlete, my mom is, you know, a 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.040 fitness guru. My sister was never one of the nation 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:24.640 for lacrosse, so we just come from a very athletic background. Yeah, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:30.360 so honestly, guys are built different. Being an athlete my 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.480 whole entire life, you know, it was like I always 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.919 had a coach training me and like really putting me 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.920 through workouts, and my mom, obviously, um, you know, taught 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.320 me everything I need to know about teaching workouts. And 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.240 so when I graduated and I stopped playing lacrosse, it 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.560 was like a really weird thing for me to not 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.159 work out with the coach anymore. And I really struggled, like, 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:49.880 what the hell do I do in the gym? How 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.480 do I work out at home? I don't really feel 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.200 comfortable going to the gym because I always had a 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.400 set routine of like my coach telling you what to do. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.159 And so I decided, like other girls will probably feel 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.080 the exact same way eight and so I just started 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.040 creating workouts that and thank god, I've gotten better at them, 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.000 because if you go back to like two thousands fifteen, 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.119 and I'm prob, I'm sure I'm just on my app 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.560 I don't know, I don't know. I think they're gone like, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.480 I don't know what happened to that app. I don't 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.600 know what company that was with. I don't remember anything 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.920 about it, but I do remember doing some workout videos 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.080 with you in your apartment and it was really fun. 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.520 Um did you ever feel like because for me personally, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.680 it took me a while to get to a point 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.760 which I feel like I just got to recently where 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.840 it's like, oh my dog, Um, I just started to 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.160 like enjoy working out where it's not a chore anymore. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.520 And anytime I talked to my sister, she's like, I 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.840 don't like working out because I have such a negative 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.160 relationship with it because I correlated with losing weight and 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.920 feeling like I'm not good enough and just anything in 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.240 that realm. And I kind of want to just like 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.120 hear your advice to maybe somebody listening that like what 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.480 was that mental switch or if you even ever had that, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.200 or maybe you did an you always loved it extremely 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.160 relatable and for someone like me coming from an athlete, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.240 I actually didn't work out after I moved on from lacrosse. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.040 I didn't work out for like ten months because I 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.840 was like, and I know this word sounds very extreme, 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.480 but it is really extreme. When you've been in a 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.840 Division one sport and it's like every day at five am, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.080 it's traumatizing. I would work out till I threw up, 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.640 and honestly, that's not good for anyone's body. I'd work 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.040 out for four hours a day, and that was my 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.960 entire life. Like middle school, I had run tests and 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.720 lift test and I would max out lifting, and so 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.760 I had a very bad relationship with working out because 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.160 it was always training way too hard and so intimidating. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.480 I would be an anxiety ball because I hated working 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.880 out so much. And so once you find out that 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.120 working out isn't about losing weight unless you want it 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.120 to be, or working out isn't about training your absolute hardest, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.280 it doesn't need to be so intimidating. It's really just 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.040 to make you feel you're like your best self, and 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.520 also it's to boost your confidence. It's for your heart health. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.840 You know, going on a thirty minute walk is working out. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.880 Doing a five minute at routine is working out. You 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.000 don't need to work out for an hour every day 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.240 a and max out lifting and push yourself to extreme limits. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.480 You know, some people aren't really built like that, and 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.520 that is totally okay. It's all about working out for 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.800 how you feel on the inside and not really working 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.520 out to, you know, for the aesthetic or for training 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.760 for something unless you are and to switch that mindset 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.080 takes a lot of time. So give yourself place, because 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.280 it took me years to get out of the you know, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.640 the traumatized state, and I still to this day can't 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.480 go to Barry's boot camp because it still reminds me 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:31.400 of my practices and I'm like, hell no, not for me, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.920 because I don't really I don't really respond well. And 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:36.880 I know I'm a trainer myself, but I don't really 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:40.120 respond well to being yelled at to push myself to 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.839 absolute extremes throwing up, and I don't think anyone should 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.640 if you're not really training for something. So um, it's 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.800 just about switching the mindset to having fun. And I 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.280 know that sounds so cliche, but it's true. It is true. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:55.120 I feel like that is like the most important thing 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:56.719 when you're working out or when you're trying to get 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.560 into like a good routine, because I think always, at 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.280 least for me, it's kind of hard to start, but 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.000 once you're in it, you really do mentally feel so 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.960 much better that it kind of becomes like an addiction 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.160 where even it's like I don't push myself in the 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.800 gym for over an hour, like I go when I 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.760 walk on the trail for thirty minutes and I leave, 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.000 and I'm like, and that's like perfect, and that's great, 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.959 and you actually, yeah, you brought up a really good 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.920 point of like once you start, and I think that's 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.240 the hardest thing is just starting. And so for me, 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.199 I always lie to myself and I say, Okay, I'm 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.680 just gonna do this for like five minutes, for ten minutes, 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.760 and I lied to myself to get me motivated to 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.080 just start. And then once you're five ten minutes, and 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.840 you're just gonna keep going because you realize that you're 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.280 getting so much more positive, you're getting more energetic, you're 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.440 feeling more confident, and you feel really good about doing it. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.559 So just not pushing yourself to places that you feel 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:59.640 so intimidated by it right Sadly, these days, social media 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:04.240 effects body confidence crazy amounts um. Is this something that 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.760 you've ever faced or learned to overcome or do you 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.840 have like any special tips or are you still dealing 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.840 with it like I am. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.840 very normal to especially in your teens in your twenties, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.280 to go through waves of confidence to some days you 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.720 feel absolutely amazing some days or just not your best. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:23.920 And as females, we have a lot of hormones and 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.040 mood switches, so that just in turn doesn't help us. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.440 I will say for me, going back to like say 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.760 my college days, it was really hard for me, especially 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:38.880 after I graduated, because I had a different muscular body type, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.600 and then once you stop training, it's like, well, why 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.360 do I have this? I want to fit in with 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.400 like in quote l A girls and they're skinnier, and 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.160 you have that like body image issue because you don't 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.440 you're not training anymore, and then you're what do you like? 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.840 You're just hard to really um understand how your body 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.920 is supposed to look and how you're supposed to work 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.720 out afterwards, especially after college, and like what to do 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.880 and figuring that all out and so to be honest, 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.840 that was probably my hardest body image issues, and it 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.880 takes a very very long time to figure out what's 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.640 right for you and your body. I will say, obviously, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.920 social media is the number one um harmful things you 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.439 could do to yourself if you are having body comparison 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:24.960 issues and stop comparing yourself to everyone aligne because it's 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.319 first up, just like not real. And unfortunately, sometimes there 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.280 are going to be, you know, always prettier girls than you, 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.120 skinnier girls, fitter girls than You're smarter, there's always gonna 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.680 be someone smarter than you. And my mom always told 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.880 me growing up growing up, like there's always gonna be 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:43.520 somebody that's or something that's like better than what you're doing, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.600 or something that's a little bit more skilled, but nobody 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.600 is you. That she would always say, like when I'm 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:49.839 literally exactly what I was about to say, and it's 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.760 so freaking true, but I will say it takes a 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.080 lot a long time. I'm twenty eight now, so it 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.680 takes like a long time to really realize that. And 0:12:57.720 --> 0:12:59.880 I think that's the beauty of growing up because you 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.600 start to a care less about what people think. You 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.959 start to really just focus on yourself, and you also 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.360 realize that those flaws you're so worried about are so natural, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.280 like cellulite for example, or like acne on your skin. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.720 It is so normal, It is so okaycent of women 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.400 out there habit, and that's like the beauty of the 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.160 female body too, and embracing all those things. Again it's 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.880 so cliche, but it's so freaking true. It's like cellulite 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.040 is one of the reasons we can bear children because 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.080 we have enough fat on our body to go through that. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.880 And so it's switching the perspective and realizing how grateful 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:32.800 you are. I think, if you ever do go through 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.640 those days, and obviously I do too, it's like switching 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.600 the perspective. It's like, get all social media, remind yourself 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.160 what is amazing about you and why you're so grateful, 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.320 Like anyone would kill to be in your shoes, right, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.760 And I also think that you have to remember guys, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.840 it's like you're seeing everybody's best moments. And I always 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:52.880 talk about this, but take it from somebody like me 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.440 who puts out photos of their best moments and of 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.000 the angles that look good and bikini photos of like 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.280 a certain angle, because I'm like, oh, I look really 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:02.920 cute in that, But if you saw the other ten 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.240 photos that are after it, like I look like a 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.959 normal human being because I'm not perfectly sat up with 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.840 like my stomach sucked in and twisted a certain way. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.760 Like it's so easy to think like, oh my god, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.199 she just looks perfect all the time when it's like, Nope, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.200 that went through severe angles and different types of like 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.320 photo shoots, and like you have to remind yourself of that. Yeah, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.720 it's so true. Um. One thing that I love is 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:34.200 you balance fun and health really really well. How important 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.480 is balanced for you? And like a typical day in 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.720 your life, what does it look like. Yeah, I think 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:44.840 some people might be shocked at how much I balance 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.560 my life and indulge. I will say I'm really lucky 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.600 in a sense that um genetics also play a really 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.120 huge role that I'm able to um eat a lot 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.720 of you know, unhealthy foods at the same time while 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.720 enjoying my healthy foods. And I think it's all again, 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.160 the word balance is so vague, but it's the truth 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.840 of how I live my life. And it's like eating. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.680 My mom always said to like eat good eighty percent 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.080 of the time and enjoy your treats and indulge twenty 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.440 percent of the time, and life is meant to be lived. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.000 I think you can still lose weight if you're trying to. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:20.080 I think you can still maintain your weight as well 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.160 and still be really healthy by living life in moderation. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.720 And so living life in moderation means, you know, still 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.080 having those moments where you want to eat chocolate at 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.480 night because you freaking can. And if you restrict yourself, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.800 if you don't let yourself eat what you want and 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.480 intuitively eat, you're just gonna go to the opposite direction 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.600 and start to binge and then feel really filthy about Yeah, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.200 And it's crazy how much it happens, because like, you 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.320 just have to learn about you and your body. Like 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.960 some people always say, like, oh, try internet, a fascinating 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.560 really helps for me. I cannot intermitte it fast because 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.880 if I skip breakfast, I am eating ten times more 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.280 dessert at night. And so you just learn how your 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.360 body works, and that comes with growing up as well 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.800 and trying different things out. Um, and once you learned 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:04.000 that if you have a cheeseburger on a Tuesday night, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.880 it's not going to set you back a month or 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.640 even a week where you are totally fine. You're human 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.800 and to just not be so damn hard on yourself exactly. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:14.720 And what's really funny actually is you just said the 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.960 twenty rule, and that's a question I had written down 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.440 for you was going to say, do you believe in that? 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:21.000 Is that something you like live by? Because you know, 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.560 people always there's all these different fads and diets and 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.960 things that people should and shouldn't do, And that was 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.480 a big one. But I think so like the overall 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.120 messages moderation. And my mom always told me that growing up. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.240 She's just like, not with food because she doesn't know 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.480 anything about fitness and health, but just with like anything 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.200 in life, she's like, yeah, everything a moderation, right, I 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.480 mean a twenties a little strict. I would say, like 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.400 what if one week you're like fifty or sixty, just 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.480 know that you're human and it's not like a strict rule. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:54.440 I don't really believe in really strict rules or guidelines 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.800 or anything like that. I just think, you know, eating 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.640 what makes you feel good, and looking at food is fuel, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.120 and not looking at is anything like, okay, so this 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.040 has how many calories in this? Right here? It's looking 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.439 at it and like, how will this feed and fuel 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.040 my body? What nutrients is in this right now that 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.919 it's going to either energize me or exhaust me or 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.760 what's good for me in this? And looking at it 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.159 that way and like the antioxidants the vitamins in it, 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.119 instead of like looking at it being like, okay, so 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.000 that's thirty grams of carbs. Because also carbs are really 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.119 good for you. Um, that is so weird. You just 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:26.840 said that. You took the way I was gonna say. 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.440 Can we please talk about carbs and how they aren't scary? 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.720 They're not scary. I have a toast. They're good. Especially 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.840 if you work out, you need carbs. I have a 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.800 piece of sour dough toast every single day. If you're 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.760 gonna eat bread, I say, eat sour dough bread. I 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.400 actually literally just had a piece of toast like ten 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.040 minutes before this. You and I need it to Carbs 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.919 are the one thing that like a leave me feeling 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.840 very energized, um and be full for longer. At the 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.520 same time, it's a fiber, and carbs really helped me 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.160 feel full for longer. Whenever I go with like just 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.960 having salad in a meal, I'm like, Okay, what's my 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.600 next meal? Like an hour brier. So don't restrict yourself 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.040 because then you're just going to you know, do the 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.520 opposite of what you wanted to do. In the end exactly. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.560 I'm so with you on that because people that are 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.280 scared of carbs, I'm like, I don't get it, because 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.880 if I have a salad, just what you said, I'm 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.480 eating snacks on snacks on snacks right after not even 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.119 like an hour, like I'm right after into my country, 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.119 like which obviously a salad sometimes it's great and I 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.440 love it, but like every like if you're so terrified 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.000 of it, I feel like it can do the exact 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.480 opposite effect of what you're trying to do. And also 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.840 like it's if you find healthy ones. Obviously we're not 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:38.520 saying like every day if you're trying to get in 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.119 maximum like best shape of your life having pizza and 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.400 pasta and like but like rice and bread and all 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.159 of that. I feel like people there's such a negative 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.199 connotation just because it is a carb when it's like 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.159 I eat that literally every day totally. I I fully, 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.040 fully agree. And if you are the type of person 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.720 who wants to, you know, obviously eat pasta because pasta 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.959 is not bad for you whatsoever. But there's always like 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.520 little things you can do to make it a little 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.439 bit healthier. I'm a huge believer and still eating like 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:10.280 pizza and pasta, but doing little fixes and switches, so 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.280 like in your pasta, maybe adding three vegetables or you know, 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.280 switching it out for like chippy pasta, So like little 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:18.280 things that you guys can still enjoy your life, but 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:37.720 making sure you're still getting into nutrients. Right, Okay, switching 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:41.920