Speaker 1: Hey there, Fana Ritos, and welcome back to How Rude Tanarritos.
Speaker 1: Today we have a fun interview for you. We have
Speaker 1: interviewed actors, directors, screenwriters, prop masters, and a warm up guy.
Speaker 1: But today we are flipping the script and we are
Speaker 1: going to interview someone who has interviewed us many times
Speaker 1: in the past, celebrity reporter Rennie Dieball. Rennie was a
Speaker 1: writer and editor for People magazine when she pitched and
Speaker 1: scored the exclusive cover story of the Fuller House reboot
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. She was the only reporter on set
Speaker 1: when we taped the pilot, and she has so many
Speaker 1: fun stories to share. She is an incredible writer, a
Speaker 1: Full House super fan, and now a dear, dear friend
Speaker 1: of ours. Please welcome Rennie.
Speaker 2: We're so excited to see you. Rennie.
Speaker 3: You have had such a.
Speaker 2: A huge part of the full Fuller Lives. Me Andrea
Speaker 2: like you.
Speaker 3: You really have such a great connection to the full
Speaker 3: and Fuller House cast. I would so you sent ab
Speaker 3: a pitch to be on the podcast, which was amazing,
Speaker 3: by the way.
Speaker 1: No other guest has done that. So you are great
Speaker 1: to make it happen.
Speaker 3: But you have to tell listeners about it, because you know,
Speaker 3: we have we've pretty much stuck to guests, guest stars
Speaker 3: on the show, writers, directors.
Speaker 2: And things, and you're one of the first kind.
Speaker 3: Of outside sources that we've had on the show.
Speaker 2: But after you hear her pitch as to why she should.
Speaker 3: Be that person, uh, I'm just saying, you're gonna be
Speaker 3: voting for her. So yeah, I'm I'm writing your name
Speaker 3: on a fill in ballot.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited we get to interview you today.
Speaker 4: It's like fop in the script, actually very weird, but
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. I would rather be interviewed by.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we do. Hopefully we do well, because you
Speaker 1: know this is you know how we roll here. We're
Speaker 1: a little unhinged, right prepared.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm ill, i have no idea what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm on cold medicine.
Speaker 4: That's why we listen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly unhinged, is right.
Speaker 1: So we described in the intro a little bit of
Speaker 1: your background how you were a celebrity reporter, writer editor
Speaker 1: for People magazine for fifteen years, but way before that,
Speaker 1: you were a super fan a full house growing up,
Speaker 1: so you sort of manifested all of this, your interviews
Speaker 1: with Full House cast, and now your friendship with me
Speaker 1: and Jody. So take us back to the very beginning
Speaker 1: when you were a little girl watching Full House. Tell
Speaker 1: us what the show meant to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the show came out when I was seven
Speaker 4: years old, so I was certainly you know, the target audience.
Speaker 4: I watched TGIF every Friday, you know, and as as
Speaker 4: you kids don't realize, right, dinner had to be done right,
Speaker 4: you had to have your bathroom break, and then it
Speaker 4: was taking half time and the only you know, the
Speaker 4: only off time was in between the shows. So it
Speaker 4: was it was a fixture in my childhood, the way
Speaker 4: it was for so many people. And then when I
Speaker 4: had my first baby, I rediscovered all of you. I
Speaker 4: I in those you know, three am feedings where you're like,
Speaker 4: how on earth am I going to stay awake? Yes,
Speaker 4: I was flipping channels and it was like, oh, I'll
Speaker 4: revisit the Tanners, you know. So and now, of course,
Speaker 4: my daughters are eight and twelve and they are obsessed
Speaker 4: with full and Fuller. So you all have been a
Speaker 4: part of my life via my TV forever since the eighties.
Speaker 1: That's so great, Like You've just been preparing your whole
Speaker 1: life and now you have two little super fans at
Speaker 1: home too, so they have kids there, gonna have to
Speaker 1: introduce uh your grandchildren to full House.
Speaker 4: And now Aby is my Joey McIntyre. I think I
Speaker 4: joked to the pitch right that was so great? I
Speaker 4: don't can I can I text her how to write?
Speaker 2: Remember Abe? Like I said, I know you have people
Speaker 2: who know who you are.
Speaker 1: To I know. I was so flattered when you said that.
Speaker 1: I was like, really, oh no, you know, Rennie, you
Speaker 1: can you text me anytime like whatever? If you haven't
Speaker 1: saw me at three am, just text me. I'll be like,
Speaker 1: hey me too. Let's talk about right.
Speaker 2: Maybe you'll be like, hold on, I'm bird watching in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: There's owls.
Speaker 2: Let me slip.
Speaker 4: Outside watch on live stream.
Speaker 1: Okay, So take us back to I mean, I know
Speaker 1: you have a varied history with John Stamos and and
Speaker 1: Bob Saggett. You met them before Fuller House came back
Speaker 1: into existence, but kind of set us up for how
Speaker 1: you pitched the cover story for full the Fuller House,
Speaker 1: how you got the exclusive bring us back? Tell us
Speaker 1: exactly how that happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so my whole career at People, I really I
Speaker 4: set myself up as the full house beat reporter because
Speaker 4: I started right after I graduated college in two thousand
Speaker 4: and two and had, you know, loved you guys growing
Speaker 4: up and wanted to cover whatever all of the cast
Speaker 4: members were doing after the fact. So that's how I
Speaker 4: met a lot of you over the years, and so
Speaker 4: being the full house beat reporter, it only made sense
Speaker 4: when there was buzz about, you know, a spinoff to
Speaker 4: put me on it. So I want to say this
Speaker 4: was twenty fifteen ish mine to do a story on
Speaker 4: Laurie Laughlin and her daughters, not related to Fuller, and
Speaker 4: while I was in LA I was living in New
Speaker 4: York at the time. We also made it like a
Speaker 4: pitch mission for me, and I met with Netflix and
Speaker 4: WB to sell them on People being the only outlet,
Speaker 4: you know at the taping of the first episode, and
Speaker 4: I love to interview people. I'm a writer, I'm a
Speaker 4: homebody and an introvert. I am not a salesperson. However,
Speaker 4: when it came to my favorite show, it was very
Speaker 4: natural to pitch my magazine and myself as you know,
Speaker 4: the outlet and the person who should cover it. And
Speaker 4: you know, I talk a lot at schools about my
Speaker 4: work as an author, and I end up telling them
Speaker 4: that story because as soon as I put a picture
Speaker 4: on screen of your cast, everybody thinks, I, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm worth listening to you.
Speaker 1: Up street cred now right right?
Speaker 4: And so I tell them, you know, in those pitches,
Speaker 4: and I've just let my real enthusiasm, my authentic enthusiasm
Speaker 4: for the show come through. And I think that's what
Speaker 4: did it? I mean, who doesn't want to align with
Speaker 4: somebody who is so excited about a project or about actors.
Speaker 4: So I actually think it really worked to my advantage.
Speaker 4: And you know, getting out to the set and being
Speaker 4: part of all that, My gosh, it was like a
Speaker 4: lifetime ago now, and yet right I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Uh it's ten years ago. I'm just ten years? What
Speaker 2: ten out of that?
Speaker 1: That's crazy? Were I? And that was an overwhelming week
Speaker 1: for me? So I barely remember meeting you, no offense,
Speaker 1: but it was just a crazy week. I do remember
Speaker 1: the group cast picture that we took set dressed in
Speaker 1: our costume, and you snuck in for one of those photos.
Speaker 1: So were you there the whole week. Were you there
Speaker 1: just on tape days? Tell us about that week.
Speaker 4: It was two days. It was the do you call
Speaker 4: it like a blocking day?
Speaker 3: The day before, oh, like our pre tape day, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: tape Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I was there for that and then the tape day,
Speaker 4: and then the next day I met the three of
Speaker 4: you with Candae at that Santa Monica hotel that's like
Speaker 4: right on the water, looks like a castle. Yeah, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: so it was. It was the best three days. And
Speaker 4: I remember after the taping going back to my hotel
Speaker 4: room and like doing a little dance because you know,
Speaker 4: I had to be professional the whole time.
Speaker 2: I was right like, no, you didn't, No, you really didn't,
Speaker 2: not for not on our set. That was that's not
Speaker 2: a requirement, right.
Speaker 4: Right, But you know, I let the inner fan girl
Speaker 4: out and I probably said out loud, you know, talking
Speaker 4: to myself, like I can leave people now, like there's
Speaker 4: nothing left for me to do. What could I wanted
Speaker 4: to do more than this? So it was a very
Speaker 4: special assignment and actually probably the beginning of deciding to
Speaker 4: go out on my own and write books and be
Speaker 4: an editor and a book collaborator and amazing so good
Speaker 4: turning points.
Speaker 3: Well, I still have that People cover hanging up here
Speaker 3: in my office right behind me. I just it's such
Speaker 3: a great picture of everybody. Yeah, I have kept it
Speaker 3: hanging up there.
Speaker 1: Oh. That was so exciting for us to be on
Speaker 1: the cover of People, right, we were so excited to
Speaker 1: finally get a cover. Yeah, tell us about that first
Speaker 1: that tape night when we were doing the live audience
Speaker 1: show for the taping. What where were you sitting? What
Speaker 1: was what were the vibe like? Were people whispering? Like?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Tell us about the atmosphere.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that I've ever been in
Speaker 4: a room, in a space with that much excitement. I
Speaker 4: was in the bleachers where the whole audience sits okay,
Speaker 4: And I actually, thanks to Aby, have been working on
Speaker 4: Jeff's upcoming book. And he writes about the book that
Speaker 4: the applause that happened when the curtain first came up
Speaker 4: and it was just the set. None of you had
Speaker 4: made your entrances yet, just the set. It was like
Speaker 4: four minutes straight, me and all of us. It was
Speaker 4: just such a visceral emotional reaction, like here's this living
Speaker 4: room that we all kind of grew up in too,
Speaker 4: and it's back there back so Jeff writes in the book,
Speaker 4: such a funny turn of phrase. He was like, it
Speaker 4: lasted four minutes, and they were applauding furniture.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, the couch. And it's true the couch
Speaker 2: needed its own title card, right.
Speaker 4: I remember John Stamo said that that first Netflix preview
Speaker 4: where they panned through the set made him cry. So
Speaker 4: it's something about that that furniture. You guys, anyway, as
Speaker 4: you all you know, came out for the first time,
Speaker 4: I mean that alone probably took an hour, you know,
Speaker 4: because you had to write applause for each person, just
Speaker 4: the way the jokes landed, and being in a room
Speaker 4: of people who all, I mean, it feels like we
Speaker 4: wanted it as much as you all did, you know,
Speaker 4: So just to be a part of that energy, it
Speaker 4: was just the most the most special night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 3: And I'm so glad that you got to like see
Speaker 3: that and be there for it because it really was
Speaker 3: like just an incredible energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so cool to hear your perspective because
Speaker 1: we've talked to each other about that night and some
Speaker 1: crew members, but we've never talked to somebody who was
Speaker 1: in the audience. As a fan, you know, that's so
Speaker 1: cool to get your perspective.
Speaker 4: And as a reporter, you know, you all talk about
Speaker 4: how much you love each other, so that's you know,
Speaker 4: it's obvious to see. You know, it's obvious when you
Speaker 4: hear it as a fan, but to really see it,
Speaker 4: you know, like when you're in those bleachers, you're looking
Speaker 4: at the set that they're filming at the moment, right,
Speaker 4: there's other sets that you can see. And then you
Speaker 4: can also see when actors are sort of just telling
Speaker 4: the fans this not you too. Oh yeah, you can
Speaker 4: see like two actors off in the corner like kind
Speaker 4: of chatting while the whole thing's happening. And so to
Speaker 4: actually see it, to see the love and to see
Speaker 4: you know, these great friends of so many decades hanging
Speaker 4: out with each other, it was just, you know, as
Speaker 4: a fan first before a reporter, it was like, it's true. Really,
Speaker 4: it was so special to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's yeah, we can't we can't get rid
Speaker 1: of each other. We love each other too much. It's
Speaker 1: so true.
Speaker 3: Seriously that yeah, I'm just singing back to that first
Speaker 3: night though, Like how exciting it was and how Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think we all.
Speaker 2: Felt like, well, i'll 's speak for myself. I was like,
Speaker 2: what have we done? Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was just like this moment of like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: oh boy, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: How often are you sharing a space with people and
Speaker 4: everyone and those hundreds of people in the room and
Speaker 4: everyone wanted this so badly and now it's happening, right, yea,
Speaker 4: Danny and Jesse are right there in the kitchen like
Speaker 4: it just.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. I remember feeling very nervous because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I haven't memorized lines and decades my script.
Speaker 2: I can't do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure Jody and I were hanging on to
Speaker 1: our scripts, our binkies as we call that, right, binkis
Speaker 1: that we can't let go of.
Speaker 2: Right. We were probably just looking for what drawer.
Speaker 3: Bob hid his end so that we could glance at
Speaker 3: it while we were in a scene.
Speaker 4: Oh and Jody, your younger daughter was like the star
Speaker 4: of the bleachers. Oh that's right.
Speaker 2: B got up and sang that.
Speaker 4: Night, singing yep, yep, yep. John like did a little
Speaker 4: interview with her.
Speaker 2: It was yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was fans with us.
Speaker 2: She's very shy as you can tell.
Speaker 3: It's unfortunate she didn't at any of my enthusiasm or
Speaker 3: love of performance. So yeah, yeah, we're trying to bring
Speaker 3: her out of Michelle. You know, no, I do I
Speaker 3: remember that though. I have actually a great picture of that.
Speaker 3: I'm standing there cheering her on and she's singing in
Speaker 3: the in the audience, and you can see video village
Speaker 3: behind me, and you see Bob Boyette who's not looking
Speaker 3: at be but who's looking at me. Oh, and it's
Speaker 3: a really like he's like looking like this, and he
Speaker 3: came over to me at the end and he said
Speaker 3: it like it was like seeing you all over again,
Speaker 3: and it really brought me back. So yeah, that was
Speaker 3: I have a really wonderful photo of that moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so special, very full circle moment. Ye,
Speaker 1: right special. Who were you most nervous to interview of
Speaker 1: the whole cast?
Speaker 4: Good question, Probably Candice, only because she was the only
Speaker 4: one I hadn't met up to them come and what
Speaker 4: ended up happening, excuse me with you all is that
Speaker 4: I interviewed a lot of you at the very beginning
Speaker 4: of my career and thought this is so easy. Celebrities
Speaker 4: aren't the us and I mean everybody, just each one
Speaker 4: of you more than the next. Was so welcoming and
Speaker 4: warm and made my job easy that I thought, this
Speaker 4: is celebrities just like you two talk about. You thought
Speaker 4: that your set was all sets right then. I out
Speaker 4: there in the world as a people reporter, and not
Speaker 4: every celebrity is as lovely as you all. I knew
Speaker 4: that Kantus would be just as lovely, and she was.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the nerves were just there because
Speaker 4: she was the only one of the crew who I
Speaker 4: hadn't met before and lo and behold, she's just like
Speaker 4: the rest of you and couldn't have made my job
Speaker 4: easier or more fun.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so great.
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 3: The hardest job of interviewing the cast, particularly when Bob
Speaker 3: was with us, was just trying to wrangle and corral
Speaker 3: us into a coherent answer. I'm sure that there was
Speaker 3: a lot of questions asked that never got answered and
Speaker 3: got completely sidetracked, and uh, you know, that was probably
Speaker 3: the hardest part of interviewing the cast of Full House
Speaker 3: is keeping us on track well.
Speaker 4: On the set of Fuller for those two days. My
Speaker 4: strategy actually having seen this was to separate the.
Speaker 2: Guys, and oh, yeah, you have to.
Speaker 3: They can't be They're like like kids in a classroom
Speaker 3: where you're like, you guys can't sit next to each other.
Speaker 4: Right, the three women you were easy to speak with
Speaker 4: as a group. You played off each other easy. Those
Speaker 4: guys forget it. I think I knew that going in
Speaker 4: like this is going to be a one on one.
Speaker 1: Kind of smart Yes, you had done your homework, you
Speaker 1: knew what hit me right, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: Well, And to that end. One time that I interviewed
Speaker 4: Bob a couple of years before Fuller came to be,
Speaker 4: I saw that distraction in real life, but in the
Speaker 4: sweetest way promoting his memoir. And so I met him
Speaker 4: at a bookstore in DC, where I was living at
Speaker 4: the time, and we're in the back room to do
Speaker 4: the interview. He has yet to go out and meet
Speaker 4: the fans and sign books and stuff like that, and
Speaker 4: there's a landline ringing incessantly in the back room with us,
Speaker 4: and we're doing our best to ignore it, like an
Speaker 4: employee's going to come answer it. Nobody did. So Bob
Speaker 4: took it upon.
Speaker 3: Himself and loves to answer a phone that he's not
Speaker 3: supposed to do. He's done that many many times.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought he was going to do a bit. He
Speaker 4: was just Bob, and he was trying to help the
Speaker 4: caller on the other end of the line find the
Speaker 4: book that they were looking for, which was not Bob's book.
Speaker 4: And then a manager someone comes in and they were
Speaker 4: horrified that Bob had to answer their phone, you know.
Speaker 2: Right right, You're like, I'm trying, really, I just.
Speaker 4: Was it about right right? And he hung up and
Speaker 4: he goes, well, I just wanted to help. It was
Speaker 4: so sweet and sincere.
Speaker 1: You know, he's so Bobs.
Speaker 4: I didn't know for sure he did, but after the interview,
Speaker 4: I think my sitter might have called my babysitter and
Speaker 4: I like muted it real quick, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, my eighteen month old is home with the babysitter.
Speaker 4: And the way he lit up and just wanted to
Speaker 4: talk about my toddler and his girls, right, I mean
Speaker 4: it was you know, I'd interviewed hundreds of actors and
Speaker 4: stars to that point, and it was just so striking
Speaker 4: that he wanted to have an actual conversation about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and daughters, Like I got.
Speaker 4: A glimpse of that incredible kindness that you all talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks, it's yeah, he's just the best. We love
Speaker 1: him and miss him, and we talk about him all
Speaker 1: the time when we're together.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy though, all of the sort of like
Speaker 3: you were talking about interviewing Bob and you know, working
Speaker 3: on Jeff's book and having met John and I mean
Speaker 3: you worked on the cover story for People when Zoe
Speaker 3: was born, you know, so you and I had met
Speaker 3: years earlier. Like there was a lot it was so
Speaker 3: nice to have you there, like you said, because not
Speaker 3: only were you a fan, but you were familiar to
Speaker 3: a lot of us. It was like we knew that
Speaker 3: you were just as excited to be there as we were.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh that's so nice to hear. Yeah. You know, as
Speaker 4: a baby reporter, you kind of feel like I have
Speaker 4: to be a professional and I can't be a fangirl.
Speaker 4: But I mean as an author now, not that I
Speaker 4: hear from a lot of fans, but when I do,
Speaker 4: there's no better feeling, you know, So I'm sure your
Speaker 4: end of things to have a reporter who's invested in
Speaker 4: your work and really enjoys your work and wants to
Speaker 4: see what you're going to do next, Like why you know,
Speaker 4: looking back, why wouldn't that be a good thing?
Speaker 1: So, yeah, well, how do you prepare for a celebrity interview?
Speaker 1: What goes into that? How do you prep? How many
Speaker 1: questions do you prepare? Tell us a little bit about.
Speaker 4: That, so as you do. I'm sure have noticed because
Speaker 4: I listened to your podcast all the time and your
Speaker 4: great interviewers. I think that the really good stuff comes
Speaker 4: out of the follow up questions. You know, So you
Speaker 4: go into an interview, certainly with a list of questions,
Speaker 4: but as you're chatting, you're actually engaged in that conversation.
Speaker 4: You know something that the that the person says is
Speaker 4: going to spark a new question in your mind, And
Speaker 4: I find I end up finding that that's where the
Speaker 4: really good stuff is. So making it a real conversation
Speaker 4: and not just I have to get through my list
Speaker 4: of questions helps a lot. And prep work does too.
Speaker 4: You know. It's one thing when you grow up with
Speaker 4: a show and you were a teenager when you could
Speaker 4: like read the magazines about those people, like then you've
Speaker 4: got the background down pat But over the years of people.
Speaker 4: You know, I interviewed plenty of people who I didn't
Speaker 4: really know, but I would go home after work and
Speaker 4: watch their movies or listen to their music. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was kind of unbelievable sometimes that I was getting
Speaker 4: paid for this, you know, because I would just dig
Speaker 4: into what they did and kind of get to know
Speaker 4: them before I even met them.
Speaker 1: That's so fun, Like talk about a blending of art
Speaker 1: and life and hearts and every.
Speaker 4: Totally, totally, I felt like the luckiest twenty two year
Speaker 4: old to land that job on.
Speaker 1: The I'm trying to figure out how to phrase this
Speaker 1: question because I know people are going to want to
Speaker 1: know who is the most difficult celebrity you interviewed. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to ask that, but is there.
Speaker 2: A way you can talk about it? I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, without naming names, can you tell us about
Speaker 1: like a difficult interaction or what makes for a difficult interview?
Speaker 1: Is it when they show too much?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I got to say, maybe I wasn't a great celebrity
Speaker 4: interviewer because you know, I never wanted to push to
Speaker 4: get the dirt, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, as a reader and a fan, I would love
Speaker 4: to feel like I'm getting to know the person right,
Speaker 4: So in my interviews, that's what I want to kind
Speaker 4: of get to, like who are you beyond the character?
Speaker 4: Who I know?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: I left that to the reporters who are better at
Speaker 4: digging up the dirt. So I didn't have a ton
Speaker 4: of tough experiences because I wasn't the one as signed
Speaker 4: to be like finding out about how the marriage broke up.
Speaker 1: Or anything right right, right right.
Speaker 4: But I did have one terrible experience with a very
Speaker 4: very famous person who I will tell you privately. I
Speaker 4: will not name them on the show, but she was
Speaker 4: on an extremely popular TV series and I had been
Speaker 4: on the job at People for all of two weeks.
Speaker 4: I mean it was pluck me out of my college
Speaker 4: dorm room and I'm on the job, and I met
Speaker 4: her on the red carpet and she didn't give me
Speaker 4: anything I needed. Again, not pushing for no personal stories, no,
Speaker 4: like children really like benign stuff, and celebrities know as
Speaker 4: much as reporters know what we need. Right, I need
Speaker 4: a sound.
Speaker 3: Bite, of course, it's a right word. It's a you
Speaker 3: scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. I'll give you a
Speaker 3: little moment, a quick funny lip.
Speaker 4: But yeah, thirty seconds right exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly on each other to get SoundBite, you know.
Speaker 4: And this was two thousand and two, so people really
Speaker 4: were going to celebrity weeklies were Yeah, even if it's
Speaker 4: just a funny line. So what, you know, what she's wearing,
Speaker 4: what was going on in her TV series at the time. Nothing.
Speaker 4: She gives me nothing. So we go into the event,
Speaker 4: which was a TV industry event. It wasn't like the
Speaker 4: met Gala, you know, there was reporters everywhere. I asked
Speaker 4: the publicist if I could continue speaking to her. The
Speaker 4: publicist said sure, it brought me over. She takes one
Speaker 4: look at me from her table, does like the up
Speaker 4: and down like this, rolls her eyes and says, didn't
Speaker 4: I talk to you already? And this was an actress
Speaker 4: who I loved. So that's like a punch in the gut,
Speaker 4: you know. So I'm stumbling and bumbling and just explaining
Speaker 4: that I need a cute quote to bring to my editor, please,
Speaker 4: you know. She gives me nothing again. And now I'm contemplating, like,
Speaker 4: how am I going to get to the bathroom to
Speaker 4: cry without anyone?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I turn around and the publicist has John Stewart for me,
Speaker 4: and that was a lovely interaction. And right after him
Speaker 4: was Oprah Winfrey, who couldn't have been kinder and more
Speaker 4: lovely to me. And I am a baby on the
Speaker 4: job here right like we're right. So I think that
Speaker 4: that pretty much encapsulates my people experience in general, because
Speaker 4: every now and again there was a tough situation right
Speaker 4: that outweighed the bad bye a mile.
Speaker 1: Oh good. I'm glad you had that immediate distraction to
Speaker 1: stop the tears and write.
Speaker 4: Otherwise I would have been crying in John Stewart's arms.
Speaker 3: Which isn't That's also not a terrible thing, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. He's yeah, we love John Stewart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd probably be very comforting about that. Just give
Speaker 1: your hand again.
Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be hilarious. I feel like you make
Speaker 2: a good joke to snap you right out of it,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh, and speaking of Oprah, this will make you laugh.
Speaker 4: I worked on a book with Terry Crews once and
Speaker 4: it was all about his marriage. Was called Stronger Together.
Speaker 4: It was an audible original, so I had pretty limited
Speaker 4: time with him, and I remember asking something that he
Speaker 4: like started to tear up, and then he actually started crying,
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting in the man's living room going, I'm
Speaker 4: Oprah Winfrey. This is amazing. I'm so good at this.
Speaker 4: Later in the interview, he tells me about all the
Speaker 4: therapy he's done and how is his emotions are right
Speaker 4: at the surface, and you know, he speaks out against
Speaker 4: toxic masculinity. And it was just so funny because he's
Speaker 4: essentially telling me he cries all the time. And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I'll take that self compliment back.
Speaker 3: You're like, I thought I was digging deep here. He's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm just I love that also about him. That's kind
Speaker 3: of amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was on a long list of wonderful celebrities.
Speaker 1: That's all. Well, And speaking of wonderful celebrities, we know
Speaker 1: how much you love John Stamos, and you met John
Speaker 1: before Fuller House a few years ago. Tell us about
Speaker 1: the first time you met John A dream come true?
Speaker 4: I'm sure, yeah, yeah. I think I saw him in
Speaker 4: cabaret in college, right, which was, you know, a total
Speaker 4: fangirl experience. How do you not love that? You know,
Speaker 4: in New York after a Broadway show, you go to
Speaker 4: the stage door, you know, for an autograph and couldn't
Speaker 4: have been kinder. And then my first interview with him
Speaker 4: for people was a few years later. Was either another
Speaker 4: Broadway show or maybe a TV show that he was on.
Speaker 4: I can't remember, because he totally derailed the interview for
Speaker 4: me before it even got started. His publicist or manager
Speaker 4: someone probably referred to me as he the name Rennie,
Speaker 4: maybe being a little bit like ambiguous as to do so.
Speaker 4: He was expecting a male reporter. So he called my
Speaker 4: office number and I pick up and there's this pause,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, are we disconnected? You know? And then
Speaker 4: he says to me, are you you're a girl? I
Speaker 4: was like yes. He said, oh, sorry, my my manager,
Speaker 4: my publicist or whatever told me you were a guy.
Speaker 4: And he pauses and then he goes, Rennie's a hot
Speaker 4: nam for a girl. Just about exploded in that little
Speaker 4: office and he took away all of that professionalism and
Speaker 4: just like a giggling mess. He derailed the interview before
Speaker 4: it even got started.
Speaker 1: Amazing he has that effect on people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but he I've interviewed him for lots of
Speaker 4: projects over the years. I have a funny Netflix story
Speaker 4: about him if you have time for it.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, we got all the time.
Speaker 2: We got time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So I interviewed him a bunch about different projects.
Speaker 4: But then I got a really fun assignment one day
Speaker 4: when Netflix and John decided to go in on this
Speaker 4: April Fool's joke. Might even remember this. Netflix pretended to
Speaker 4: make this documentary docuseries about him that was like took
Speaker 4: itself very seriously, yes, all about Stamoss, right, and so
Speaker 4: he is in on this joke where then they say,
Speaker 4: April Fools, this isn't real, and there's footage of him,
Speaker 4: like like cell phone footage of him storming into the
Speaker 4: Netflix office and saying, how could you do this to me?
Speaker 4: You're you're diminishing my brand, the Stamos brand. And so
Speaker 4: since people is in on this as well, I had
Speaker 4: a story ready to go about this incident that was captured, right,
Speaker 4: so funny and so much fun because we're, you know,
Speaker 4: we're interacting audience about this terrible behavior from Stamos. And
Speaker 4: then I tweeted it, dating myself this whole interview. I
Speaker 4: tweeted it because this is many years ago, and I
Speaker 4: said something like from my personal account, like I'll always
Speaker 4: be a John Stamos fan, but this kind of behavior
Speaker 4: is just embarrassing, you know, And he tweets me publicly
Speaker 4: f off off and he spelled out the F and
Speaker 4: I was like, this is the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2: Right Twitter beef, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: And then of course we revealed to readers that everybody's
Speaker 4: in on the joke, you know, Hilary's Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: very funny. And then he gave me a tour of
Speaker 4: the set on the Fuller House business, yeah and round
Speaker 4: things out and you all have really long days on set.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize so he had been there. I don't
Speaker 4: want to know how many hours. It was the end
Speaker 4: of the day and he was like, you want to
Speaker 4: come on, I'll take you on a tour, and it
Speaker 4: was amazing. We went to every room. I learned like
Speaker 4: the little backstories. He almost stole the prop for me,
Speaker 4: but as I understand it, that's kind of frowned upon.
Speaker 3: So only you go, what prop were you going to steal?
Speaker 4: I wanted the duck head from the kitchen.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, yeah, the cookie it's not in my office.
Speaker 1: John has took that. Yeah, somebody did John, It wasn't me.
Speaker 2: He did want that at the end of the show,
Speaker 2: and you were like, where's that duck? Yeah, duck was
Speaker 2: missing anybody out there?
Speaker 4: So it was too soon. I get that, I understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you had to wait till the end of
Speaker 1: the season. It was like a flea market. Everybody watched
Speaker 1: the stage on that for.
Speaker 2: The last show.
Speaker 3: If everyone did it at once, they couldn't stop us.
Speaker 1: You know, that's so great.
Speaker 3: Now you've worked with Andrea and Jeff on both of
Speaker 3: their memoirs. What was that experience like for you? I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously you're a full house fan, but what
Speaker 3: was it like getting to work with them on things
Speaker 3: that were much more personal and not just full house specific?
Speaker 4: You know, sure, sure, Well, I started ghost writing in
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight, so had done a bunch of
Speaker 4: books before this and realized that it's really what I
Speaker 4: wanted to do, and it's what I ultimately transitioned to.
Speaker 4: So with Andrea, you know, we met at that hotel
Speaker 4: in Santa Monica, and I remember seeing her. She arrived first,
Speaker 4: and I was like, is that her? Like I couldn't
Speaker 4: tell one hundred percent, and not just because she wasn't
Speaker 4: wearing the fried eggs on the scarf. It wasn't about
Speaker 4: Kimmy Gibler hair and makeup. It's the way carries herself.
Speaker 4: She's just an entirely different human And I was like,
Speaker 4: is it her, I'm going to take a chance, And
Speaker 4: it was her. And I was just so struck by
Speaker 4: her story of child stardom, decades off being a quote
Speaker 4: unquote normal person and then back to stardom. So I
Speaker 4: was thrilled when I talked to her people and they
Speaker 4: said that she was in fact interested in writing a book.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think over the process I did
Speaker 4: become like less fan and more regular person, right, I
Speaker 4: mean at her kitchen table with her sweet doggie and
Speaker 4: listening kids on the block, you know, as we brainstormed
Speaker 4: like it doesn't get much better than that. And then
Speaker 4: Andrea was nice enough to refer me to Jeff when
Speaker 4: he was and is working on his memoir, and that
Speaker 4: one of the most striking things to me about his book.
Speaker 4: And he didn't believe me on this, but I think
Speaker 4: you too will. The stories that are not about Full
Speaker 4: House are some of the best parts of that book.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely right. I Mean that's the thing is once
Speaker 2: do you know Jeff and how.
Speaker 3: Long he's been in this business and what he's done
Speaker 3: and what you know, like you'll just pop off with
Speaker 3: stories and you're like, oh my god, that's where you've
Speaker 3: been doing this.
Speaker 2: Forever since you were you were a baby, and you
Speaker 2: sort of.
Speaker 3: Happened into amazing circumstances over and over, you know, and
Speaker 3: you have all.
Speaker 2: Of this amazing life story.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and he's so modest, you know that he
Speaker 4: totally waived me. It's not that interesting. It's beyond I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't I honestly don't think I ever saw an
Speaker 4: episode of Laverne and Shirley. But his storytelling is so
Speaker 4: good it becomes so invested in this book in like
Speaker 4: young Jeff as Yeah, it's called him and his you know,
Speaker 4: trials and tribulations on Laverne and Shirley and Buzz and
Speaker 4: Buddies and these shows that I'm not even familiar with,
Speaker 4: but now I want to go back and watch so
Speaker 4: so learning about you know, the man the name on
Speaker 4: the TV screen was so exciting, and he really is.
Speaker 4: He's just as kind as you all have said. He
Speaker 4: called me once either ahead of or late for our meeting,
Speaker 4: so I wasn't expecting it. I'm in the car. My
Speaker 4: eight year old is sitting next to me, and his
Speaker 4: name pops up, you know, on the screen, and her
Speaker 4: jaw drops open, like she has seen me with in
Speaker 4: photos with all of you, and like that's cool, you know,
Speaker 4: that's fine, mom whatever. Seeing Jess's name in our car,
Speaker 4: she like went banana. She couldn't believe it, And so
Speaker 4: I answered and we were laughing.
Speaker 3: I love that she was name recognition just reading it
Speaker 3: was like, I know that guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing, Jeff, I'm gonna have to call you back.
Speaker 4: My daughter is sitting here completely starstruck that Jeff Franklin
Speaker 4: called me and he was laughing, and she goes, his
Speaker 4: name is on my TV every day.
Speaker 2: That's so cute.
Speaker 1: He's like the Wizard of Awe. It's like meeting the
Speaker 1: Wizard of Awe. You're like, oh my gosh, the man
Speaker 1: behind the show. It's so cool.
Speaker 4: And as a writer, you know, it was not intimidating
Speaker 4: because he's so so kind, but it was. It was
Speaker 4: amazing to get to meet the brains behind, you know,
Speaker 4: a show I loved so much and a writer who
Speaker 4: I who I respect so much. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: as a reporter, as a fan, like live in the
Speaker 4: dream to be able to, you know, go deeper and
Speaker 4: collaborate on something as special as bringing a book into
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 1: I knew you'd be the perfect fit because Jeff, when
Speaker 1: he started writing this book years ago, he kept coming
Speaker 1: to me for advice, like, how do you put together
Speaker 1: a book proposal? What goes into it? How do you
Speaker 1: talk to publishers? And I'm like, okay, I've published one book,
Speaker 1: Jeff one, and it was because of Rennie.
Speaker 2: Like you made a literary agent or something. I don't
Speaker 2: talk to me because I think you need someone who
Speaker 2: knows things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, you need Rennie. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to ghost writer. And I said, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't want to ghost writer either. But
Speaker 1: she's more like, I love that you call yourself a
Speaker 1: book doctor because you're not writing the books for us,
Speaker 1: but you're kind of like helping us tetris it into
Speaker 1: something coherent, right, and teaching. I learned so much just
Speaker 1: about the publishing world, and yeah, how do you pitch
Speaker 1: a book? How do you put together a proposal? There's
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, almost more work.
Speaker 1: Goes into the proposal than the actual book, so truly.
Speaker 4: It's part Yeah. I mean, writing a book is an
Speaker 4: incredible feat and a creative endeavor. Publishing a book is
Speaker 4: a business, and so a lot of people you know,
Speaker 4: appreciate help that way. And I just love to be
Speaker 4: part of a book's process, you know, however I can,
Speaker 4: whether it is ghost writing or you know, book doctoring,
Speaker 4: architecturing something along.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you were just You're just the best. Like
Speaker 1: you made a dream come true for me because I
Speaker 1: don't know if I ever I've always said, oh, I
Speaker 1: want to write a book someday, but we always say
Speaker 1: that and then do you actually like do it? But
Speaker 1: you were the one that gave me that push. You
Speaker 1: gave me that nudge. You're like, you have a story
Speaker 1: and you you've got a book in you and I'm like really,
Speaker 1: so you gave me the confidence and then you gave
Speaker 1: me the tools. And you were just so lovely and
Speaker 1: have such a great bedside manner, and it was just
Speaker 1: like becoming friends, Like we became close friends during all
Speaker 1: those months you came to my house for a weekend.
Speaker 1: I think I dragged you to one of my kids
Speaker 1: like soccer events or meet.
Speaker 4: And your picture on the wall at your favorite Mexican place. Yes,
Speaker 4: what's the pairing. It's like Bill Clinton Barbara Streisan.
Speaker 2: And it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm right next to it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm right next to Hillary Clinton. So I'm
Speaker 1: very I'm just like, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Tell me if she was wearing a sombrewer with a
Speaker 3: Cadillac Margarita.
Speaker 2: I know that's all I want.
Speaker 3: It's just her and a giant hat with like a
Speaker 3: shot in one hand and a giant salt rimmed like
Speaker 3: boat in the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be the next photo right right.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: You not only have like booked and ghost written other books,
Speaker 3: but you have started writing children's books.
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about I mean, obviously you
Speaker 2: are a mom.
Speaker 3: You have kids, But tell us like what your inspiration
Speaker 3: for writing children's books was and and how that's different
Speaker 3: than writing like, you know, adult novel, not adult well
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that almost went weird. Okay, I'll stop talking.
Speaker 4: Funny enough. I am writing a romance book right now,
Speaker 4: which is very okay. And it's funny because people will
Speaker 4: say to me, like, how's your book going, And I'm
Speaker 4: like the picture book or the book that is nothing
Speaker 4: like a picture bib.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, two, very different the picture books, I guess.
Speaker 4: But right, well, I started out writing an equestrian series.
Speaker 4: I've been a horse person and a competitive a question
Speaker 4: in my whole life. And then I transitioned into picture
Speaker 4: books because I was, you know, seeing the world through
Speaker 4: my young girl's eyes, and I was very struck by
Speaker 4: how early in life we are subjected to the food
Speaker 4: police and the body police. So my first book is
Speaker 4: called be Is for Bellies, a Celebration of Everybody, and
Speaker 4: it's all about body acceptance and mantras for you know,
Speaker 4: the littlest readers. And then my second picture book is
Speaker 4: called Fiona and the Peculiar.
Speaker 2: Praise and I love that one, by the way, oh
Speaker 2: thank you. And it was so cute.
Speaker 3: I wound up giving it to my daughter, my daughter's
Speaker 3: boyfriend's little sister, who is five, and she reads and
Speaker 3: loved it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, very cute.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear it. I was, you know, having girls,
Speaker 4: the first thing anybody says is they're so cute, They're
Speaker 4: so beautiful. And I just happened to get into this
Speaker 4: habit when they were really little, of saying to the
Speaker 4: person and really to that to my girls, and you're
Speaker 4: so smart and you're so strong because we women, we
Speaker 4: are raised to believe that that's where our worth is
Speaker 4: and that's what where our value is. And it's not
Speaker 4: done with malice. It's not even intentional, right, Like you
Speaker 4: just you hear it enough and you think, well, this
Speaker 4: is the greatest thing about me, right, It's ingrained, right right.
Speaker 4: So the trick in picture books if you want to
Speaker 4: impart a lesson is to not make it seem like
Speaker 4: a lesson book, because who wants to read that between
Speaker 4: kids and parents. So Fiona is a cat who goes
Speaker 4: through the day doing all these incredible things and nobody notices.
Speaker 4: They just call her beautiful and lovely and gorgeous. And
Speaker 4: you have to read the book to see what happens.
Speaker 4: But takeaway is that we are more than our appearances.
Speaker 4: And hopefully it was done in a fun way that kids.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, such great messages behind your books, Like this
Speaker 1: is so needed. I wish I still had little kids
Speaker 1: when I have grandchildren. When I have grandchildren, these are
Speaker 1: the first books that they read.
Speaker 4: Things.
Speaker 1: Is just it's so important And I was so proud
Speaker 1: when you published Bias for bellies. I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, she did it like it was just such
Speaker 1: a such a win for me too, just as your friend. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's really important work. Thank you for doing that. And
Speaker 1: you told me one time that writing children's books is
Speaker 1: just as difficult, maybe more so than writing regular books.
Speaker 1: How but there's so many fewer words in a picture book,
Speaker 1: So how is it difficult in that way?
Speaker 4: I think it just comes down to the fewer the words,
Speaker 4: the more every word has to count right to get
Speaker 4: it exactly right down to the letter. I mean, my
Speaker 4: Fiona book is probably six hundred words, you know, and
Speaker 4: your books are probably sixty thousand words. So it's about
Speaker 4: being that exacting. It's about telling a story between words,
Speaker 4: and and I'm not the illustrator, so leaving room for
Speaker 4: the illustrator to tell part of the stories. Plus it's
Speaker 4: just a really crowded market, you know. Yeah, people write
Speaker 4: picture books. A lot of people think writing picture books
Speaker 4: is easy, so there's a lot out there for agents
Speaker 4: and editors to sort through. That's why I write romance
Speaker 4: levels now picture books are too hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had to move on for picture books.
Speaker 4: It was too stressful, exactly.
Speaker 1: Do you write the book first or do you do
Speaker 1: the illustration? Tell us how what's the order of progression
Speaker 1: between illustrator writer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, publisher Unless it's an author illustrator, a picture book
Speaker 4: is sold just based on the manuscript, so literally selling
Speaker 4: a document which is tipped like two pages, you know,
Speaker 4: and then the publisher typically picks the illustrator, you know,
Speaker 4: someone whose style they like it, you know, it fits
Speaker 4: into their vision. And on some books the author gets
Speaker 4: input on the visuals, and on other books not at all,
Speaker 4: and it just depends on the publisher. So I got
Speaker 4: to be very involved with Fiona, which was really exciting
Speaker 4: to get to say, Like, the.
Speaker 2: Visuals were great on it. They were really yeah, really cute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, a little imposter syndrome sneaks in.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what, I don't know anything
Speaker 4: about the visuals, Okay, yeah, but I but I told
Speaker 4: her what I was picturing, and she just brought it
Speaker 4: to life in the most beautiful way.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. That's got to be so cool
Speaker 1: to see the visuals, Like was it anything that you
Speaker 1: imagined in your head or was it a completely different
Speaker 1: take that the illustrator had on.
Speaker 4: Oh it was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 4: It was pretty similar to what I saw in my head.
Speaker 4: And she and I never spoke directly, so it was
Speaker 4: like this wizardry right like this, So yeah, so that
Speaker 4: was a That was a super cool experience.
Speaker 1: That's so great. That's so great. What can you share
Speaker 1: about your upcoming work, your romance novel, any other picture
Speaker 1: books you're writing? Can you share anything or is it
Speaker 1: still under wraps?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Nothing, nothing yet with those, but I will tell
Speaker 4: you I have an incredible book that I co authored
Speaker 4: coming out in March called The ADHD Field Guide for Adults.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I need it.
Speaker 3: HI on the limit an advanced copy, but I have
Speaker 3: a raging case of add.
Speaker 4: Well talked about it on the pod and I noticed,
Speaker 4: since I put you on the list, She's.
Speaker 2: Like, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you've been a list.
Speaker 4: It is written by Kate Osborne and Eric Good, who
Speaker 4: are big content creators in the ADHD space, and I
Speaker 4: was lucky enough to kind of shepherd it along with.
Speaker 2: Them and contribute to awesome.
Speaker 4: I didn't know much about ADHD at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the process, but oh my god, I this book is
Speaker 4: going to help so many people. The working title for
Speaker 4: a really long time was you are not an f up?
Speaker 4: Like yes, that like f starsky because it's such an
Speaker 4: insidious it is. People don't like the term disorder, but
Speaker 4: they just is part of every every part of your life.
Speaker 4: And so we interviewed, we spoke to hundreds of people
Speaker 4: who are fans of theirs and put their experiences in
Speaker 4: the book too. And I just think people are going
Speaker 4: to feel so seen reading this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't I can't wait to uh, I can't
Speaker 2: wait to check that out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have a good friend of mine who's doing a
Speaker 3: lot of who's a therapist and has done a lot
Speaker 3: of work with ADHD stuff, and she says, it's, you
Speaker 3: know the thing people always say about adhds, it's not
Speaker 3: attention deficit. You you have too much attention to everything
Speaker 3: around you and you don't know how to like tune
Speaker 3: all that out and do one thing at a time.
Speaker 3: And then it just sounds like screaming noise in your
Speaker 3: head because you can't figure out which direction to go.
Speaker 3: And then you just yell at yourself that you're such
Speaker 3: an idiot that you can't do anything because you don't
Speaker 3: even you can't even.
Speaker 2: Brush your teeth.
Speaker 3: Look at you can't even figure out how to do
Speaker 3: that because you have to go to the store and
Speaker 3: you have to pick up toothpaste and you haven't done
Speaker 3: that for two days.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 4: I had no idea, the shame element that, Oh it's awful.
Speaker 3: So the first, the first day I took my ADHD meds,
Speaker 3: which was I as an adult, I cried because I
Speaker 3: did not know that my head didn't have to be
Speaker 3: that loud wow and screaming at me and it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was life changing.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that people are like finally talking about it,
Speaker 3: particularly with women we you know, and adult women who
Speaker 3: sort of didn't get you know, we were just the chatterboxes.
Speaker 3: We didn't necessarily get you diagnosed or helped along with it.
Speaker 2: So that's so cool. I love it, very excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're doing good work, You're doing important work. Full
Speaker 1: house ADHD Children's book, Like this is everything, I mean, positivity.
Speaker 2: All three of those big fans, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do your girls listen to Howard Tannerito's Are they fans?
Speaker 1: Will you let them listen to this episode?
Speaker 4: This one? For sure, it's amazing. I got Louise to
Speaker 4: school today because she was like, I have to stay home.
Speaker 4: I have to see Stephanie. Katie has a special affinity
Speaker 4: for a B and Kimmi Gibbler because was nice enough
Speaker 4: to bring us to a taping of the show a
Speaker 4: fuller later in it, Yes, why are Joey McIntyre because
Speaker 4: I didn't want to ask you that. I was like,
Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm going to ask her for something, and.
Speaker 3: I right, and she is so difficult, Like she's so intimidating,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you get and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 2: How she could go either way? Right, Yeah, No, it's
Speaker 2: very scary to deal with. Andrew Barbera.
Speaker 4: Soise Louise is a Stephanie girl, and so she's horrified
Speaker 4: that she's not here for this.
Speaker 3: Renny, this has been such an amazing interview, and like
Speaker 3: you are such a you're like a cousin of the
Speaker 3: full House fam now, you know what I mean, You're
Speaker 3: in our extended family. You've been there for so many
Speaker 3: of our important moments, both with the show and personally,
Speaker 3: and and you're just a really amazing, awesome, talented human.
Speaker 3: So it like we kind of couldn't be luckier that
Speaker 3: we have such an amazing writer who happens to have
Speaker 3: such a big love for all of us, because it
Speaker 3: definitely comes in handy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, feeling as mutual. It has been pleasure and you know,
Speaker 4: fullest house, another vote for that one.
Speaker 2: All us out.
Speaker 1: Hey, if we make it happen, you're going to be
Speaker 1: the only reporter you have to come back to the Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: world first. Yeah, because we'd be the only one on set.
Speaker 1: You get the exclusive.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Ny, We love you so much,
Speaker 1: love you so good to see you. Thanks bye.
Speaker 2: Oh that was so great. She's always such a pleasure
Speaker 2: to talk to.
Speaker 1: Oh, this was just such a natural fit too. She's like,
Speaker 1: what a cool interview to get to interview somebody who's
Speaker 1: interviewed celebrities for something.
Speaker 2: It's very meta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so meta. And yeah that was just
Speaker 1: I learned stories that I had never heard before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: learned some things about her today that I didn't know before.
Speaker 1: And I just love it.
Speaker 2: No, that was great. And she's always been.
Speaker 3: So kind to us and the show and just really
Speaker 3: been a supporter of ours out in media.
Speaker 2: And you know that's wasn't always the case with full house.
Speaker 2: You know, we took a lot of grief over the
Speaker 2: years for you know, being a family sitcom and all
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. So when you have a.
Speaker 3: Writer who actually loves what the show is and what
Speaker 3: we are as a family, that that means a lot
Speaker 3: because she really she gets it, you know, and she
Speaker 3: was the target audience when we were doing it.
Speaker 1: She was the target audience. And she's so dang talented.
Speaker 1: But she's so wanting other people to shine like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, such a big heart. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's like she said, she's not the she's not
Speaker 2: the reporter.
Speaker 3: That's like, oh, so tell me about how the real dark.
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's like, if you don't, I don't want
Speaker 3: it to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: She just wants to be friends with everybody. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: just let them shine. And yeah I love that about her.
Speaker 2: Oh well that was so great. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: And make sure to check out her children's books, be
Speaker 3: Is Bellies and Fiona and the Peculiar Praise. They are
Speaker 3: really really fun and great books and so incredibly illustrated too.
Speaker 3: So thank you guys for joining us on another fun
Speaker 3: episode of How Rude. Tana Rito's If you want to
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Speaker 3: how Rude Podcast or send us an email at like
Speaker 3: Rennie did at No, she emailed you personally, but you
Speaker 3: can send us an email at Howard Tannatos at gmail
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Speaker 2: Check out our merch store at howardemerch dot com. And
Speaker 2: what else?
Speaker 1: I think you covered it?
Speaker 2: Cover everything.
Speaker 1: Feeling right now.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what's happening. Uh, well, everybody, it's
Speaker 3: been a pleasure. We love you, Tanta Rito's. We'll see
Speaker 3: you next time. And remember the world is small, the
Speaker 3: house is full. Oh no, I lost it. I had
Speaker 3: a thing and I lost it.
Speaker 1: What it was children's books, body positivity.
Speaker 2: Bellies, it's full bellies.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's full of bellies, bodies of all types.
Speaker 2: Yes, there we go. I'm hungry now