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Speaker 1: Hey there, Fana Ritos, and welcome back to How Rude Tanarritos.

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Speaker 1: Today we have a fun interview for you. We have

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Speaker 1: interviewed actors, directors, screenwriters, prop masters, and a warm up guy.

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Speaker 1: But today we are flipping the script and we are

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Speaker 1: going to interview someone who has interviewed us many times

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Speaker 1: in the past, celebrity reporter Rennie Dieball. Rennie was a

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Speaker 1: writer and editor for People magazine when she pitched and

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Speaker 1: scored the exclusive cover story of the Fuller House reboot

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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. She was the only reporter on set

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Speaker 1: when we taped the pilot, and she has so many

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Speaker 1: fun stories to share. She is an incredible writer, a

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Speaker 1: Full House super fan, and now a dear, dear friend

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Speaker 1: of ours. Please welcome Rennie.

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Speaker 2: We're so excited to see you. Rennie.

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Speaker 3: You have had such a.

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Speaker 2: A huge part of the full Fuller Lives. Me Andrea

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Speaker 2: like you.

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Speaker 3: You really have such a great connection to the full

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Speaker 3: and Fuller House cast. I would so you sent ab

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Speaker 3: a pitch to be on the podcast, which was amazing,

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Speaker 3: by the way.

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Speaker 1: No other guest has done that. So you are great

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Speaker 1: to make it happen.

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Speaker 3: But you have to tell listeners about it, because you know,

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Speaker 3: we have we've pretty much stuck to guests, guest stars

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Speaker 3: on the show, writers, directors.

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Speaker 2: And things, and you're one of the first kind.

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Speaker 3: Of outside sources that we've had on the show.

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Speaker 2: But after you hear her pitch as to why she should.

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Speaker 3: Be that person, uh, I'm just saying, you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: voting for her. So yeah, I'm I'm writing your name

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Speaker 3: on a fill in ballot.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited we get to interview you today.

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Speaker 4: It's like fop in the script, actually very weird, but

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. I would rather be interviewed by.

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we do. Hopefully we do well, because you

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Speaker 1: know this is you know how we roll here. We're

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Speaker 1: a little unhinged, right prepared.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm ill, i have no idea what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 3: I'm on cold medicine.

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Speaker 4: That's why we listen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly unhinged, is right.

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Speaker 1: So we described in the intro a little bit of

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Speaker 1: your background how you were a celebrity reporter, writer editor

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Speaker 1: for People magazine for fifteen years, but way before that,

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Speaker 1: you were a super fan a full house growing up,

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Speaker 1: so you sort of manifested all of this, your interviews

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Speaker 1: with Full House cast, and now your friendship with me

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Speaker 1: and Jody. So take us back to the very beginning

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Speaker 1: when you were a little girl watching Full House. Tell

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Speaker 1: us what the show meant to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the show came out when I was seven

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Speaker 4: years old, so I was certainly you know, the target audience.

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Speaker 4: I watched TGIF every Friday, you know, and as as

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Speaker 4: you kids don't realize, right, dinner had to be done right,

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Speaker 4: you had to have your bathroom break, and then it

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Speaker 4: was taking half time and the only you know, the

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Speaker 4: only off time was in between the shows. So it

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Speaker 4: was it was a fixture in my childhood, the way

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Speaker 4: it was for so many people. And then when I

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Speaker 4: had my first baby, I rediscovered all of you. I

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Speaker 4: I in those you know, three am feedings where you're like,

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Speaker 4: how on earth am I going to stay awake? Yes,

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Speaker 4: I was flipping channels and it was like, oh, I'll

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Speaker 4: revisit the Tanners, you know. So and now, of course,

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Speaker 4: my daughters are eight and twelve and they are obsessed

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Speaker 4: with full and Fuller. So you all have been a

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Speaker 4: part of my life via my TV forever since the eighties.

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Speaker 1: That's so great, Like You've just been preparing your whole

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Speaker 1: life and now you have two little super fans at

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Speaker 1: introduce uh your grandchildren to full House.

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Speaker 4: And now Aby is my Joey McIntyre. I think I

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Speaker 4: joked to the pitch right that was so great? I

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Speaker 4: don't can I can I text her how to write?

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Speaker 2: Remember Abe? Like I said, I know you have people

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Speaker 2: who know who you are.

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Speaker 1: To I know. I was so flattered when you said that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, really, oh no, you know, Rennie, you

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Speaker 1: can you text me anytime like whatever? If you haven't

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Speaker 1: saw me at three am, just text me. I'll be like,

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Speaker 1: hey me too. Let's talk about right.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you'll be like, hold on, I'm bird watching in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: There's owls.

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Speaker 2: Let me slip.

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Speaker 4: Outside watch on live stream.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So take us back to I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: Bob Saggett. You met them before Fuller House came back

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Speaker 1: into existence, but kind of set us up for how

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Speaker 1: you pitched the cover story for full the Fuller House,

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Speaker 1: how you got the exclusive bring us back? Tell us

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Speaker 1: exactly how that happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so my whole career at People, I really I

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Speaker 4: set myself up as the full house beat reporter because

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Speaker 4: I started right after I graduated college in two thousand

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Speaker 4: members were doing after the fact. So that's how I

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Speaker 4: met a lot of you over the years, and so

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Speaker 4: being the full house beat reporter, it only made sense

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Speaker 4: when there was buzz about, you know, a spinoff to

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Speaker 4: put me on it. So I want to say this

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Speaker 4: was twenty fifteen ish mine to do a story on

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Speaker 4: Laurie Laughlin and her daughters, not related to Fuller, and

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Speaker 4: while I was in LA I was living in New

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Speaker 4: York at the time. We also made it like a

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Speaker 4: WB to sell them on People being the only outlet,

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Speaker 4: you know at the taping of the first episode, and

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Speaker 4: I love to interview people. I'm a writer, I'm a

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Speaker 4: homebody and an introvert. I am not a salesperson. However,

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Speaker 4: when it came to my favorite show, it was very

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Speaker 4: natural to pitch my magazine and myself as you know,

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Speaker 4: the outlet and the person who should cover it. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I talk a lot at schools about my

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Speaker 4: work as an author, and I end up telling them

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Speaker 4: that story because as soon as I put a picture

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Speaker 4: on screen of your cast, everybody thinks, I, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm worth listening to you.

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Speaker 1: Up street cred now right right?

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Speaker 4: And so I tell them, you know, in those pitches,

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Speaker 4: and I've just let my real enthusiasm, my authentic enthusiasm

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Speaker 4: for the show come through. And I think that's what

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Speaker 4: did it? I mean, who doesn't want to align with

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Speaker 4: somebody who is so excited about a project or about actors.

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Speaker 4: So I actually think it really worked to my advantage.

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Speaker 4: And you know, getting out to the set and being

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Speaker 4: part of all that, My gosh, it was like a

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Speaker 4: lifetime ago now, and yet right I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Uh it's ten years ago. I'm just ten years? What

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Speaker 2: ten out of that?

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Speaker 1: That's crazy? Were I? And that was an overwhelming week

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Speaker 1: for me? So I barely remember meeting you, no offense,

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Speaker 1: but it was just a crazy week. I do remember

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Speaker 1: the group cast picture that we took set dressed in

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Speaker 1: our costume, and you snuck in for one of those photos.

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Speaker 1: So were you there the whole week. Were you there

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Speaker 1: just on tape days? Tell us about that week.

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Speaker 4: It was two days. It was the do you call

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Speaker 4: it like a blocking day?

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Speaker 3: The day before, oh, like our pre tape day, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I was there for that and then the tape day,

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Speaker 4: and then the next day I met the three of

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Speaker 4: you with Candae at that Santa Monica hotel that's like

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Speaker 4: right on the water, looks like a castle. Yeah, yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: so it was. It was the best three days. And

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Speaker 4: I remember after the taping going back to my hotel

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Speaker 4: I had to be professional the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I was right like, no, you didn't, No, you really didn't,

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Speaker 2: not for not on our set. That was that's not

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Speaker 4: Right, But you know, I let the inner fan girl

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Speaker 4: out and I probably said out loud, you know, talking

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Speaker 4: to myself, like I can leave people now, like there's

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Speaker 4: nothing left for me to do. What could I wanted

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Speaker 4: to do more than this? So it was a very

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Speaker 4: special assignment and actually probably the beginning of deciding to

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Speaker 4: go out on my own and write books and be

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Speaker 4: an editor and a book collaborator and amazing so good

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Speaker 3: Well, I still have that People cover hanging up here

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Speaker 3: in my office right behind me. I just it's such

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Speaker 3: a great picture of everybody. Yeah, I have kept it

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Speaker 1: Oh. That was so exciting for us to be on

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Speaker 1: the cover of People, right, we were so excited to

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Speaker 1: finally get a cover. Yeah, tell us about that first

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Speaker 1: show for the taping. What where were you sitting? What

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the atmosphere.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that I've ever been in

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Speaker 4: And I actually, thanks to Aby, have been working on

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Speaker 4: Jeff's upcoming book. And he writes about the book that

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Speaker 4: just such a visceral emotional reaction, like here's this living

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Speaker 4: and it's back there back so Jeff writes in the book,

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Speaker 4: such a funny turn of phrase. He was like, it

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Speaker 4: lasted four minutes, and they were applauding furniture.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, the couch. And it's true the couch

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Speaker 4: I remember John Stamo said that that first Netflix preview

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Speaker 4: it's something about that that furniture. You guys, anyway, as

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Speaker 4: wanted it as much as you all did, you know,

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Speaker 4: So just to be a part of that energy, it

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Speaker 4: was just the most the most special night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was.

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Speaker 3: And I'm so glad that you got to like see

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Speaker 3: like just an incredible energy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so cool to hear your perspective because

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Speaker 1: we've talked to each other about that night and some

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Speaker 1: crew members, but we've never talked to somebody who was

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Speaker 1: in the audience. As a fan, you know, that's so

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Speaker 1: cool to get your perspective.

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Speaker 4: And as a reporter, you know, you all talk about

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Speaker 4: how much you love each other, so that's you know,

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Speaker 4: it's obvious to see. You know, it's obvious when you

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Speaker 4: hear it as a fan, but to really see it,

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Speaker 4: you know, like when you're in those bleachers, you're looking

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Speaker 4: at the set that they're filming at the moment, right,

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Speaker 4: there's other sets that you can see. And then you

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Speaker 4: Oh that's so nice to hear. Yeah. You know, as

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, well, how do you prepare for a celebrity interview?

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Speaker 4: You know. It's one thing when you grow up with

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Speaker 4: You know, I interviewed plenty of people who I didn't

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Speaker 1: That's so fun, Like talk about a blending of art

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Speaker 4: I got to say, maybe I wasn't a great celebrity

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Speaker 4: So in my interviews, that's what I want to kind

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Speaker 4: Who I know?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: I left that to the reporters who are better at

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Speaker 4: anything I needed. Again, not pushing for no personal stories, no,

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00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 4: like children really like benign stuff, and celebrities know as

442
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 4: much as reporters know what we need. Right, I need

443
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 4: a sound.

444
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 3: Bite, of course, it's a right word. It's a you

445
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 3: scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. I'll give you a

446
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: little moment, a quick funny lip.

447
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, thirty seconds right exactly.

448
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 2: Exactly on each other to get SoundBite, you know.

449
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 4: And this was two thousand and two, so people really

450
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 4: were going to celebrity weeklies were Yeah, even if it's

451
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 4: just a funny line. So what, you know, what she's wearing,

452
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 4: what was going on in her TV series at the time. Nothing.

453
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: She gives me nothing. So we go into the event,

454
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: which was a TV industry event. It wasn't like the

455
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: met Gala, you know, there was reporters everywhere. I asked

456
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 4: the publicist if I could continue speaking to her. The

457
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 4: publicist said sure, it brought me over. She takes one

458
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: look at me from her table, does like the up

459
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 4: and down like this, rolls her eyes and says, didn't

460
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 4: I talk to you already? And this was an actress

461
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: who I loved. So that's like a punch in the gut,

462
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: you know. So I'm stumbling and bumbling and just explaining

463
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: that I need a cute quote to bring to my editor, please,

464
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 4: you know. She gives me nothing again. And now I'm contemplating, like,

465
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: how am I going to get to the bathroom to

466
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 4: cry without anyone?

467
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

468
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 4: I turn around and the publicist has John Stewart for me,

469
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 4: and that was a lovely interaction. And right after him

470
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 4: was Oprah Winfrey, who couldn't have been kinder and more

471
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: lovely to me. And I am a baby on the

472
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: job here right like we're right. So I think that

473
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 4: that pretty much encapsulates my people experience in general, because

474
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: every now and again there was a tough situation right

475
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 4: that outweighed the bad bye a mile.

476
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: Oh good. I'm glad you had that immediate distraction to

477
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: stop the tears and write.

478
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 4: Otherwise I would have been crying in John Stewart's arms.

479
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: Which isn't That's also not a terrible thing, you know

480
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: what I mean. He's yeah, we love John Stewart.

481
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd probably be very comforting about that. Just give

482
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: your hand again.

483
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be hilarious. I feel like you make

484
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: a good joke to snap you right out of it,

485
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: you know.

486
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

487
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 4: Oh, and speaking of Oprah, this will make you laugh.

488
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: I worked on a book with Terry Crews once and

489
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: it was all about his marriage. Was called Stronger Together.

490
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 4: It was an audible original, so I had pretty limited

491
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: time with him, and I remember asking something that he

492
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: like started to tear up, and then he actually started crying,

493
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: and I'm sitting in the man's living room going, I'm

494
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 4: Oprah Winfrey. This is amazing. I'm so good at this.

495
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: Later in the interview, he tells me about all the

496
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 4: therapy he's done and how is his emotions are right

497
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 4: at the surface, and you know, he speaks out against

498
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 4: toxic masculinity. And it was just so funny because he's

499
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: essentially telling me he cries all the time. And I

500
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 4: was like, oh, I'll take that self compliment back.

501
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: You're like, I thought I was digging deep here. He's like, no, no, no,

502
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 3: I'm just I love that also about him. That's kind

503
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: of amazing.

504
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

505
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was on a long list of wonderful celebrities.

506
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: That's all. Well, And speaking of wonderful celebrities, we know

507
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: how much you love John Stamos, and you met John

508
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: before Fuller House a few years ago. Tell us about

509
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: the first time you met John A dream come true?

510
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure, yeah, yeah. I think I saw him in

511
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 4: cabaret in college, right, which was, you know, a total

512
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 4: fangirl experience. How do you not love that? You know,

513
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: in New York after a Broadway show, you go to

514
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: the stage door, you know, for an autograph and couldn't

515
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: have been kinder. And then my first interview with him

516
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: for people was a few years later. Was either another

517
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: Broadway show or maybe a TV show that he was on.

518
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: I can't remember, because he totally derailed the interview for

519
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: me before it even got started. His publicist or manager

520
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 4: someone probably referred to me as he the name Rennie,

521
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 4: maybe being a little bit like ambiguous as to do so.

522
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: He was expecting a male reporter. So he called my

523
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 4: office number and I pick up and there's this pause,

524
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: and I'm like, are we disconnected? You know? And then

525
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,239
Speaker 4: he says to me, are you you're a girl? I

526
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: was like yes. He said, oh, sorry, my my manager,

527
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: my publicist or whatever told me you were a guy.

528
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: And he pauses and then he goes, Rennie's a hot

529
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: nam for a girl. Just about exploded in that little

530
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: office and he took away all of that professionalism and

531
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: just like a giggling mess. He derailed the interview before

532
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 4: it even got started.

533
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: Amazing he has that effect on people.

534
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, but he I've interviewed him for lots of

535
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: projects over the years. I have a funny Netflix story

536
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 4: about him if you have time for it.

537
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, we got all the time.

538
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: We got time.

539
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. So I interviewed him a bunch about different projects.

540
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: But then I got a really fun assignment one day

541
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 4: when Netflix and John decided to go in on this

542
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 4: April Fool's joke. Might even remember this. Netflix pretended to

543
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 4: make this documentary docuseries about him that was like took

544
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 4: itself very seriously, yes, all about Stamoss, right, and so

545
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 4: he is in on this joke where then they say,

546
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: April Fools, this isn't real, and there's footage of him,

547
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 4: like like cell phone footage of him storming into the

548
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: Netflix office and saying, how could you do this to me?

549
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 4: You're you're diminishing my brand, the Stamos brand. And so

550
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: since people is in on this as well, I had

551
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 4: a story ready to go about this incident that was captured, right,

552
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: so funny and so much fun because we're, you know,

553
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: we're interacting audience about this terrible behavior from Stamos. And

554
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: then I tweeted it, dating myself this whole interview. I

555
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 4: tweeted it because this is many years ago, and I

556
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: said something like from my personal account, like I'll always

557
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 4: be a John Stamos fan, but this kind of behavior

558
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 4: is just embarrassing, you know, And he tweets me publicly

559
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: f off off and he spelled out the F and

560
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 4: I was like, this is the greatest thing ever.

561
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Right Twitter beef, Yeah, you know.

562
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: And then of course we revealed to readers that everybody's

563
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 4: in on the joke, you know, Hilary's Yeah, that was

564
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 4: very funny. And then he gave me a tour of

565
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: the set on the Fuller House business, yeah and round

566
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: things out and you all have really long days on set.

567
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: I didn't realize so he had been there. I don't

568
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 4: want to know how many hours. It was the end

569
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: of the day and he was like, you want to

570
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: come on, I'll take you on a tour, and it

571
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 4: was amazing. We went to every room. I learned like

572
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 4: the little backstories. He almost stole the prop for me,

573
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: but as I understand it, that's kind of frowned upon.

574
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: So only you go, what prop were you going to steal?

575
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 4: I wanted the duck head from the kitchen.

576
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, yeah, the cookie it's not in my office.

577
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: John has took that. Yeah, somebody did John, It wasn't me.

578
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: He did want that at the end of the show,

579
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: and you were like, where's that duck? Yeah, duck was

580
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: missing anybody out there?

581
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 4: So it was too soon. I get that, I understand.

582
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you had to wait till the end of

583
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: the season. It was like a flea market. Everybody watched

584
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: the stage on that for.

585
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: The last show.

586
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: If everyone did it at once, they couldn't stop us.

587
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's so great.

588
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: Now you've worked with Andrea and Jeff on both of

589
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: their memoirs. What was that experience like for you? I mean,

590
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: you know, obviously you're a full house fan, but what

591
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: was it like getting to work with them on things

592
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: that were much more personal and not just full house specific?

593
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: You know, sure, sure, Well, I started ghost writing in

594
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight, so had done a bunch of

595
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: books before this and realized that it's really what I

596
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: wanted to do, and it's what I ultimately transitioned to.

597
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: So with Andrea, you know, we met at that hotel

598
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: in Santa Monica, and I remember seeing her. She arrived first,

599
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: and I was like, is that her? Like I couldn't

600
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: tell one hundred percent, and not just because she wasn't

601
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: wearing the fried eggs on the scarf. It wasn't about

602
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: Kimmy Gibler hair and makeup. It's the way carries herself.

603
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: She's just an entirely different human And I was like,

604
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: is it her, I'm going to take a chance, And

605
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: it was her. And I was just so struck by

606
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: her story of child stardom, decades off being a quote

607
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 4: unquote normal person and then back to stardom. So I

608
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: was thrilled when I talked to her people and they

609
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: said that she was in fact interested in writing a book.

610
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: And you know, I think over the process I did

611
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 4: become like less fan and more regular person, right, I

612
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: mean at her kitchen table with her sweet doggie and

613
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 4: listening kids on the block, you know, as we brainstormed

614
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: like it doesn't get much better than that. And then

615
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: Andrea was nice enough to refer me to Jeff when

616
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: he was and is working on his memoir, and that

617
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: one of the most striking things to me about his book.

618
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: And he didn't believe me on this, but I think

619
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 4: you too will. The stories that are not about Full

620
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: House are some of the best parts of that book.

621
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely right. I Mean that's the thing is once

622
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: do you know Jeff and how.

623
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Long he's been in this business and what he's done

624
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: and what you know, like you'll just pop off with

625
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: stories and you're like, oh my god, that's where you've

626
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: been doing this.

627
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Forever since you were you were a baby, and you

628
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: sort of.

629
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: Happened into amazing circumstances over and over, you know, and

630
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: you have all.

631
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: Of this amazing life story.

632
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and he's so modest, you know that he

633
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 4: totally waived me. It's not that interesting. It's beyond I mean,

634
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: I don't I honestly don't think I ever saw an

635
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: episode of Laverne and Shirley. But his storytelling is so

636
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: good it becomes so invested in this book in like

637
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: young Jeff as Yeah, it's called him and his you know,

638
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: trials and tribulations on Laverne and Shirley and Buzz and

639
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: Buddies and these shows that I'm not even familiar with,

640
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: but now I want to go back and watch so

641
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: so learning about you know, the man the name on

642
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 4: the TV screen was so exciting, and he really is.

643
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: He's just as kind as you all have said. He

644
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: called me once either ahead of or late for our meeting,

645
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 4: so I wasn't expecting it. I'm in the car. My

646
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: eight year old is sitting next to me, and his

647
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: name pops up, you know, on the screen, and her

648
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: jaw drops open, like she has seen me with in

649
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: photos with all of you, and like that's cool, you know,

650
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: that's fine, mom whatever. Seeing Jess's name in our car,

651
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: she like went banana. She couldn't believe it, And so

652
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: I answered and we were laughing.

653
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: I love that she was name recognition just reading it

654
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: was like, I know that guy.

655
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing, Jeff, I'm gonna have to call you back.

656
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: My daughter is sitting here completely starstruck that Jeff Franklin

657
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: called me and he was laughing, and she goes, his

658
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: name is on my TV every day.

659
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 2: That's so cute.

660
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: He's like the Wizard of Awe. It's like meeting the

661
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: Wizard of Awe. You're like, oh my gosh, the man

662
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: behind the show. It's so cool.

663
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: And as a writer, you know, it was not intimidating

664
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 4: because he's so so kind, but it was. It was

665
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: amazing to get to meet the brains behind, you know,

666
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: a show I loved so much and a writer who

667
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: I who I respect so much. So yeah, I mean,

668
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: as a reporter, as a fan, like live in the

669
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: dream to be able to, you know, go deeper and

670
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 4: collaborate on something as special as bringing a book into

671
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: the world.

672
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: I knew you'd be the perfect fit because Jeff, when

673
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: he started writing this book years ago, he kept coming

674
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: to me for advice, like, how do you put together

675
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: a book proposal? What goes into it? How do you

676
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: talk to publishers? And I'm like, okay, I've published one book,

677
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: Jeff one, and it was because of Rennie.

678
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: Like you made a literary agent or something. I don't

679
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: talk to me because I think you need someone who

680
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: knows things.

681
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, you need Rennie. And he's like, well,

682
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to ghost writer. And I said, no,

683
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't want to ghost writer either. But

684
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: she's more like, I love that you call yourself a

685
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: book doctor because you're not writing the books for us,

686
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: but you're kind of like helping us tetris it into

687
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: something coherent, right, and teaching. I learned so much just

688
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: about the publishing world, and yeah, how do you pitch

689
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: a book? How do you put together a proposal? There's

690
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into it.

691
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, almost more work.

692
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: Goes into the proposal than the actual book, so truly.

693
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: It's part Yeah. I mean, writing a book is an

694
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: incredible feat and a creative endeavor. Publishing a book is

695
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: a business, and so a lot of people you know,

696
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: appreciate help that way. And I just love to be

697
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: part of a book's process, you know, however I can,

698
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: whether it is ghost writing or you know, book doctoring,

699
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: architecturing something along.

700
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

701
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you were just You're just the best. Like

702
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: you made a dream come true for me because I

703
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: don't know if I ever I've always said, oh, I

704
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: want to write a book someday, but we always say

705
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: that and then do you actually like do it? But

706
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: you were the one that gave me that push. You

707
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: gave me that nudge. You're like, you have a story

708
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: and you you've got a book in you and I'm like really,

709
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: so you gave me the confidence and then you gave

710
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: me the tools. And you were just so lovely and

711
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: have such a great bedside manner, and it was just

712
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: like becoming friends, Like we became close friends during all

713
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: those months you came to my house for a weekend.

714
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: I think I dragged you to one of my kids

715
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: like soccer events or meet.

716
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: And your picture on the wall at your favorite Mexican place. Yes,

717
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 4: what's the pairing. It's like Bill Clinton Barbara Streisan.

718
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: And it's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm right next to it.

719
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: I think I'm right next to Hillary Clinton. So I'm

720
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: very I'm just like, yes, exactly.

721
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: Tell me if she was wearing a sombrewer with a

722
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: Cadillac Margarita.

723
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: I know that's all I want.

724
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 3: It's just her and a giant hat with like a

725
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: shot in one hand and a giant salt rimmed like

726
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 3: boat in the other.

727
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be the next photo right right.

728
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: Now.

729
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: You not only have like booked and ghost written other books,

730
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: but you have started writing children's books.

731
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about I mean, obviously you

732
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: are a mom.

733
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: You have kids, But tell us like what your inspiration

734
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: for writing children's books was and and how that's different

735
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: than writing like, you know, adult novel, not adult well

736
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

737
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that almost went weird. Okay, I'll stop talking.

738
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: Funny enough. I am writing a romance book right now,

739
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 4: which is very okay. And it's funny because people will

740
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 4: say to me, like, how's your book going, And I'm

741
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: like the picture book or the book that is nothing

742
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: like a picture bib.

743
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, two, very different the picture books, I guess.

744
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 4: But right, well, I started out writing an equestrian series.

745
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 4: I've been a horse person and a competitive a question

746
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: in my whole life. And then I transitioned into picture

747
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: books because I was, you know, seeing the world through

748
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 4: my young girl's eyes, and I was very struck by

749
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: how early in life we are subjected to the food

750
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 4: police and the body police. So my first book is

751
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 4: called be Is for Bellies, a Celebration of Everybody, and

752
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: it's all about body acceptance and mantras for you know,

753
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: the littlest readers. And then my second picture book is

754
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: called Fiona and the Peculiar.

755
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: Praise and I love that one, by the way, oh

756
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: thank you. And it was so cute.

757
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: I wound up giving it to my daughter, my daughter's

758
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: boyfriend's little sister, who is five, and she reads and

759
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: loved it.

760
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, very cute.

761
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear it. I was, you know, having girls,

762
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 4: the first thing anybody says is they're so cute, They're

763
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 4: so beautiful. And I just happened to get into this

764
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: habit when they were really little, of saying to the

765
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: person and really to that to my girls, and you're

766
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: so smart and you're so strong because we women, we

767
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: are raised to believe that that's where our worth is

768
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: and that's what where our value is. And it's not

769
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: done with malice. It's not even intentional, right, Like you

770
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 4: just you hear it enough and you think, well, this

771
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: is the greatest thing about me, right, It's ingrained, right right.

772
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: So the trick in picture books if you want to

773
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 4: impart a lesson is to not make it seem like

774
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: a lesson book, because who wants to read that between

775
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: kids and parents. So Fiona is a cat who goes

776
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: through the day doing all these incredible things and nobody notices.

777
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: They just call her beautiful and lovely and gorgeous. And

778
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 4: you have to read the book to see what happens.

779
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: But takeaway is that we are more than our appearances.

780
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: And hopefully it was done in a fun way that kids.

781
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: Like, oh, such great messages behind your books, Like this

782
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: is so needed. I wish I still had little kids

783
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: when I have grandchildren. When I have grandchildren, these are

784
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: the first books that they read.

785
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: Things.

786
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: Is just it's so important And I was so proud

787
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: when you published Bias for bellies. I was like, oh

788
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: my gosh, she did it like it was just such

789
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: a such a win for me too, just as your friend. Yeah, yeah, no,

790
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: it's really important work. Thank you for doing that. And

791
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: you told me one time that writing children's books is

792
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: just as difficult, maybe more so than writing regular books.

793
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: How but there's so many fewer words in a picture book,

794
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: So how is it difficult in that way?

795
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: I think it just comes down to the fewer the words,

796
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 4: the more every word has to count right to get

797
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: it exactly right down to the letter. I mean, my

798
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: Fiona book is probably six hundred words, you know, and

799
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: your books are probably sixty thousand words. So it's about

800
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 4: being that exacting. It's about telling a story between words,

801
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 4: and and I'm not the illustrator, so leaving room for

802
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: the illustrator to tell part of the stories. Plus it's

803
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 4: just a really crowded market, you know. Yeah, people write

804
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: picture books. A lot of people think writing picture books

805
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: is easy, so there's a lot out there for agents

806
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: and editors to sort through. That's why I write romance

807
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 4: levels now picture books are too hard.

808
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had to move on for picture books.

809
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: It was too stressful, exactly.

810
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: Do you write the book first or do you do

811
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: the illustration? Tell us how what's the order of progression

812
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: between illustrator writer.

813
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, publisher Unless it's an author illustrator, a picture book

814
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: is sold just based on the manuscript, so literally selling

815
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: a document which is tipped like two pages, you know,

816
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: and then the publisher typically picks the illustrator, you know,

817
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 4: someone whose style they like it, you know, it fits

818
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 4: into their vision. And on some books the author gets

819
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: input on the visuals, and on other books not at all,

820
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: and it just depends on the publisher. So I got

821
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: to be very involved with Fiona, which was really exciting

822
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 4: to get to say, Like, the.

823
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Speaker 2: Visuals were great on it. They were really yeah, really cute.

824
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, a little imposter syndrome sneaks in.

825
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what, I don't know anything

826
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: about the visuals, Okay, yeah, but I but I told

827
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: her what I was picturing, and she just brought it

828
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: to life in the most beautiful way.

829
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's so cool. That's got to be so cool

830
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: to see the visuals, Like was it anything that you

831
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: imagined in your head or was it a completely different

832
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: take that the illustrator had on.

833
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 4: Oh it was.

834
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 3: It was.

835
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: It was pretty similar to what I saw in my head.

836
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: And she and I never spoke directly, so it was

837
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 4: like this wizardry right like this, So yeah, so that

838
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: was a That was a super cool experience.

839
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: That's so great. That's so great. What can you share

840
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: about your upcoming work, your romance novel, any other picture

841
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: books you're writing? Can you share anything or is it

842
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: still under wraps?

843
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 4: Yeah? Nothing, nothing yet with those, but I will tell

844
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: you I have an incredible book that I co authored

845
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: coming out in March called The ADHD Field Guide for Adults.

846
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I need it.

847
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: HI on the limit an advanced copy, but I have

848
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: a raging case of add.

849
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 4: Well talked about it on the pod and I noticed,

850
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 4: since I put you on the list, She's.

851
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: Like, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you've been a list.

852
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 4: It is written by Kate Osborne and Eric Good, who

853
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: are big content creators in the ADHD space, and I

854
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: was lucky enough to kind of shepherd it along with.

855
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: Them and contribute to awesome.

856
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 4: I didn't know much about ADHD at the beginning of

857
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: the process, but oh my god, I this book is

858
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: going to help so many people. The working title for

859
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: a really long time was you are not an f up?

860
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 4: Like yes, that like f starsky because it's such an

861
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: insidious it is. People don't like the term disorder, but

862
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 4: they just is part of every every part of your life.

863
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 4: And so we interviewed, we spoke to hundreds of people

864
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: who are fans of theirs and put their experiences in

865
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 4: the book too. And I just think people are going

866
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 4: to feel so seen reading this.

867
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't I can't wait to uh, I can't

868
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 2: wait to check that out. Yeah.

869
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: I have a good friend of mine who's doing a

870
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: lot of who's a therapist and has done a lot

871
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: of work with ADHD stuff, and she says, it's, you

872
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: know the thing people always say about adhds, it's not

873
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: attention deficit. You you have too much attention to everything

874
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: around you and you don't know how to like tune

875
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: all that out and do one thing at a time.

876
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: And then it just sounds like screaming noise in your

877
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: head because you can't figure out which direction to go.

878
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: And then you just yell at yourself that you're such

879
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: an idiot that you can't do anything because you don't

880
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: even you can't even.

881
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 2: Brush your teeth.

882
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: Look at you can't even figure out how to do

883
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: that because you have to go to the store and

884
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: you have to pick up toothpaste and you haven't done

885
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: that for two days.

886
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

887
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: I had no idea, the shame element that, Oh it's awful.

888
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 3: So the first, the first day I took my ADHD meds,

889
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: which was I as an adult, I cried because I

890
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: did not know that my head didn't have to be

891
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: that loud wow and screaming at me and it was.

892
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was life changing.

893
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that people are like finally talking about it,

894
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: particularly with women we you know, and adult women who

895
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: sort of didn't get you know, we were just the chatterboxes.

896
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: We didn't necessarily get you diagnosed or helped along with it.

897
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: So that's so cool. I love it, very excited.

898
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're doing good work, You're doing important work. Full

899
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: house ADHD Children's book, Like this is everything, I mean, positivity.

900
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: All three of those big fans, you know what I mean?

901
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, do your girls listen to Howard Tannerito's Are they fans?

902
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: Will you let them listen to this episode?

903
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 4: This one? For sure, it's amazing. I got Louise to

904
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 4: school today because she was like, I have to stay home.

905
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 4: I have to see Stephanie. Katie has a special affinity

906
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: for a B and Kimmi Gibbler because was nice enough

907
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: to bring us to a taping of the show a

908
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 4: fuller later in it, Yes, why are Joey McIntyre because

909
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: I didn't want to ask you that. I was like,

910
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm going to ask her for something, and.

911
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: I right, and she is so difficult, Like she's so intimidating,

912
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you get and you're like,

913
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: oh god, I don't know.

914
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: How she could go either way? Right, Yeah, No, it's

915
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: very scary to deal with. Andrew Barbera.

916
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 4: Soise Louise is a Stephanie girl, and so she's horrified

917
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: that she's not here for this.

918
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 3: Renny, this has been such an amazing interview, and like

919
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: you are such a you're like a cousin of the

920
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: full House fam now, you know what I mean, You're

921
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: in our extended family. You've been there for so many

922
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: of our important moments, both with the show and personally,

923
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 3: and and you're just a really amazing, awesome, talented human.

924
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 3: So it like we kind of couldn't be luckier that

925
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: we have such an amazing writer who happens to have

926
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: such a big love for all of us, because it

927
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: definitely comes in handy.

928
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, feeling as mutual. It has been pleasure and you know,

929
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: fullest house, another vote for that one.

930
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: All us out.

931
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: Hey, if we make it happen, you're going to be

932
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: the only reporter you have to come back to the Yeah, yeah,

933
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: world first. Yeah, because we'd be the only one on set.

934
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: You get the exclusive.

935
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely love it.

936
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Ny, We love you so much,

937
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: love you so good to see you. Thanks bye.

938
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: Oh that was so great. She's always such a pleasure

939
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: to talk to.

940
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: Oh, this was just such a natural fit too. She's like,

941
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: what a cool interview to get to interview somebody who's

942
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: interviewed celebrities for something.

943
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: It's very meta.

944
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so meta. And yeah that was just

945
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: I learned stories that I had never heard before. Yeah,

946
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: learned some things about her today that I didn't know before.

947
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: And I just love it.

948
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: No, that was great. And she's always been.

949
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: So kind to us and the show and just really

950
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: been a supporter of ours out in media.

951
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: And you know that's wasn't always the case with full house.

952
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: You know, we took a lot of grief over the

953
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: years for you know, being a family sitcom and all

954
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. So when you have a.

955
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: Writer who actually loves what the show is and what

956
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: we are as a family, that that means a lot

957
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: because she really she gets it, you know, and she

958
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 3: was the target audience when we were doing it.

959
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: She was the target audience. And she's so dang talented.

960
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: But she's so wanting other people to shine like that.

961
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, such a big heart. Yeah.

962
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: And it's like she said, she's not the she's not

963
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: the reporter.

964
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 3: That's like, oh, so tell me about how the real dark.

965
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, she's like, if you don't, I don't want

966
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: it to be uncomfortable.

967
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

968
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: She just wants to be friends with everybody. Yeah, and

969
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: just let them shine. And yeah I love that about her.

970
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: Oh well that was so great. Yeah, I love it.

971
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: And make sure to check out her children's books, be

972
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: Is Bellies and Fiona and the Peculiar Praise. They are

973
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: really really fun and great books and so incredibly illustrated too.

974
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 3: So thank you guys for joining us on another fun

975
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: episode of How Rude. Tana Rito's If you want to

976
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: find us on Instagram, you can check us out at

977
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: how Rude Podcast or send us an email at like

978
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: Rennie did at No, she emailed you personally, but you

979
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: can send us an email at Howard Tannatos at gmail

980
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: dot com.

981
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: Check out our merch store at howardemerch dot com. And

982
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 2: what else?

983
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: I think you covered it?

984
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Cover everything.

985
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: Feeling right now.

986
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 3: I don't even know what's happening. Uh, well, everybody, it's

987
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: been a pleasure. We love you, Tanta Rito's. We'll see

988
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: you next time. And remember the world is small, the

989
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: house is full. Oh no, I lost it. I had

990
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: a thing and I lost it.

991
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: What it was children's books, body positivity.

992
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 2: Bellies, it's full bellies.

993
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: Oh, it's full of bellies, bodies of all types.

994
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: Yes, there we go. I'm hungry now