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Speaker 1: you may want to wait. But just as an oh

425
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: b M, I going into the office and telling my patients,

426
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: don't get pregnant right now, No, that's not the case.

427
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: And I had a question, UM. So after we went

428
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: in um to the doctor, to our doctor, and you know,

429
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: we did, he kind of looked around and told me

430
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: that yes, it wasn't miscarriage, he suggested, which he suggested

431
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: a year ago I just never got around to it. Um,

432
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: he's like, we need to do the genetic testing, you know,

433
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: the carrier testing, and so um, they you know, took

434
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: my blood and tested for I think it was over

435
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty different Um. I'm not sure what

436
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: the technical term is, but theyse for a bunch of things,

437
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: and then, um, I came back that I was actually

438
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: positive for two things and that I had just found

439
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: out I miscarried two weeks earlier. And then he calls

440
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: me and that just sent me into a tailspin. And

441
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't even really know what that meant. Um my

442
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: husband had to go and he actually ended up testing

443
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: negative for everything. So we're all good, But what exactly

444
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: I mean? That sent me down another you know, spiral,

445
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: because then I'm like, not only did I miscarry and

446
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: now I'm positive for you know, in seven six five.

447
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: I didn't even know these terms. But and then when

448
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: he came back negative, I felt even more guilty and

449
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: even more that it was my fault. So what exactly

450
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: are those tests? Okay, Well, first of all, please don't

451
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: feel guilty. Please don't feel like it's your fault, like

452
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: if you think about it, like you you said it.

453
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: You said that he tested you for hundreds of things.

454
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: You know, think about it. The general population just doesn't

455
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: get tested for hundreds of things just because we all

456
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: have something. None of us were born perfect when it

457
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: comes to genets, Okay, we all have something. It's just

458
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: that we typically don't look for those things. And even

459
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: females who go on to have perfectly healthy pregnancies would

460
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: still test positive for some of those things, maybe even

461
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: more than two things. So you probably you did really

462
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: well if you only test you know, you know, you

463
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, so I don't not having

464
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: the information in front of me, I don't even know

465
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: exactly what you were tested for. But it goes back

466
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: to once someone has a miscarriage, then we kind of

467
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: go down the list and we we look at things

468
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: that could potentially increase a person's um probability of miscarriage.

469
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: But you're not creating a baby on your own, right,

470
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: So in order for you know, a baby to inherit,

471
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: certain issues are for certain issues to become a problem.

472
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: That's why we test mom and dad. And you know,

473
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: if they test your significant other, even though I'm sure

474
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: you're significant other, it's wonderful they would probably also have

475
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: some things going on genetically, but guess what, you're a

476
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: great match for them because when it comes to your genes,

477
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: you're fine when it comes to the things that they

478
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: tested positive for, right, So it still puts you in

479
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: a good situation. Okay. So I don't know exactly what

480
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: you test it positive for, because like you said, there

481
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: are a lot of different things that we can test for.

482
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think it's

483
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: actually it's good news for you. It's good news for

484
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: you because what you test it positive for, your husband

485
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: or your significant other tested negative for. And you know

486
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't I wouldn't dwell on that. I wouldn't

487
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: feel guilty. Um if it none of us are perfect genetically,

488
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, So we should all

489
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: be sad if that's the Thank you, Dr g Nita,

490
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. I know this

491
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: is such a I hate saying. UM, I feel like

492
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: it's way more than one and what do they say,

493
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: it's one and three? I I feel like that statistics

494
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: out the door. Like I've almost every single one of

495
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: my friends I know has miscarried. It's so much more common.

496
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: It is hard and tend like tend to of known

497
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: pregnancies and in miscarriage, and we know that that number

498
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: is actually higher because a lot of individuals will miscarry

499
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: before they even know they're pregnant. So it's common. But

500
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: once again, just because it's common, that doesn't mean it's easy.

501
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: So it's important for females and couples going through this

502
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: to surround themselves with the proper individuals to to heal

503
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: emotionally and just make sure they're getting all of the

504
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: support they need. Thank you Dr Nita so much for

505
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: coming on. Yeah, thank you so much. Where can our

506
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: listeners follow you and kind of lean into all your

507
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: advice that you have to share. My handle is at

508
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: dr d R need to landry n I t A

509
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Speaker 1: l A N d R Y and that's pretty much

510
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: across all platforms. Awesome, Thank you, Dr Nita. Thank you.

511
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: My friend still doesn't make it easy though, you know,

512
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: it's still just and like she said, like so many

513
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: people don't even know what she says. So many people

514
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: miscarry before they even know they're pregnant. And I feel

515
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are like because when I

516
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: was trying to normalize it and reach out, you know,

517
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone besides you who had miscarried. My sister's,

518
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: my mom. I didn't know anyone, and I'm the first

519
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: of my friends, um, and so it's just weird when

520
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: people say to me. I found it weird when people

521
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: would respond and say, oh, you know, I might have miscarried.

522
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't know, you know, I could have miscarried.

523
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that doesn't help me, because if

524
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: you miscarried and you don't know it, then you didn't suffer,

525
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: or you didn't feel it, or you know what I'm saying.

526
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: So I think they were trying to make me feel better.

527
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: But it's such a weird. It's such a weird thing.

528
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna say this before Dr Needa

529
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: came on, but you you're saying that brought up a

530
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: point or kind of my perception on it. And you know,

531
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you look at social media, right,

532
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: so many people want to complain about something, and often times,

533
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, if you scroll and you see something, you

534
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: might first tend to roll your eyes like, oh this

535
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: person maybe they just want attention or they just want

536
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: sympathy or whatever. I feel like when it comes to

537
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: this subject, with miscarriage. At least for me personally, that

538
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: thought has never entered my mind because I truly believe

539
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: having been been a partner, that's how a wife go

540
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: through it, and you know, being a couple ship that's

541
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: gone through it, and then having friends like you that

542
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: have gone through it it. Truly, I truly believe it's

543
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: y'all don't want sympathy. You're truly trying to understand something

544
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: that is so difficult to understand because there's so many

545
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: different variables that involved. That's why they say childbirth is

546
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: a miracle, right because for all the stars to align

547
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: it for it to happen is common. There's a child

548
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: born every day, multiple children born every day in this

549
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: country but in the world. But it's still a miracle.

550
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: And you realize that how hard it is once you

551
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: want to start having children. How majority of people are

552
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people whatever percentage no realize unfortunately how

553
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: difficult it is. But I just from my perception, I

554
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: just never think it is about y'all wanting sympathy. You're

555
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: truly trying to grasp the concept of of why of

556
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: why why me? What? What? What's wrong with me? And

557
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: I just have so much empathy for women around around

558
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: this topic, because that just has to be yes, the men,

559
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're a part of the couple too, but

560
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: like you said, Sarah, it's it's still not our body.

561
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: We don't feel it physically. It lingers with y'all, you know.

562
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: So it's just I just again a lot of empathy

563
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: for you all, and I just you know, I'm so

564
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: sorry with you being such a close friend that you've

565
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: had to experience these things, you know, because you don't

566
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: want that for people that you love. So yeah, thanks, guys,

567
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: What do you what do you hope for moving forward? Like,

568
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: what's your hope for other women that are in your situation?

569
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: What's your hope for after this airs? I hope that

570
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: I can do what those two Dallas mommy bloggers did

571
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: for me. I was hours after finding out. I had

572
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: not a freaking clue what was going on. And this

573
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: one girl did a full blown story on her Instagram

574
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: just explaining everything. Um, you know, she's explained that she

575
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: was six weeks when she found out, and the she

576
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: explained a week later she miscarried, and she really in

577
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: detail went through it, and I just said, oh my god, wow,

578
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: me too, And so it just I hope to normalize it.

579
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: I just hope to I hope that people can say, Okay,

580
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: you know I corn are I miscarried in quarantine too,

581
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: and you know I was not okay and neither was she.

582
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I started journaling and I'm going to

583
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: have a baby, and so I just know that, you know,

584
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: with journaling and you know, tie and just trying. I'm

585
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: trying to be in a positive mind space and just

586
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: think positive. So I just hope that people can as

587
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: hard as it is and as alone, as lonely as

588
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: quarantine as in general, throw this in the mix. I

589
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: just hope that people don't feel alone when they listen. Well,

590
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: I love you. I think you're incredibly brave, incredibly strong,

591
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: and I just adore you. And you know, no, thank you,

592
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: it's it. You welcome to the mommy tribe because you are.

593
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: You are a mom babe. You know when you texted

594
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: me that on Mother's Day, you're the which again, it's

595
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: not like a game, there's no keeping score, but like

596
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: you texted me on Mother's Day, having Mother's Day and

597
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: like nobody not that other people needed to, but do

598
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like there's something when you

599
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: don't go through it, I don't understand. If you'll understood,

600
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: I can't imagine how understood you felt in that moment.

601
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: I felt so seen. I just was like, wow, no,

602
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: I know. And I even told Tie, and you know,

603
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: he didn't want to acknowledge it. It was that awkward thing.

604
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to acknowledge it right on Mother's Day because

605
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: it's just a weird thing. Um, but when you did,

606
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: I just I didn't cry because I think I'm back

607
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: to my old self. I loved vulnerable Sarah. I would

608
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: I think I I think in that moment, I I

609
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: wanted to cry, but then I also wanted to smile

610
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I know, like I'm going to be

611
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: a Montain and and even t I was like, we're

612
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: going to celebrate you next year, you know, like it's

613
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: but that was very, very thoughtful because yeah, it's a

614
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: weird misunderstanding that you feel, but you get me. I'm

615
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: like crying for it right now. Well she is anyone

616
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: that you. You are a mother, You're a part of

617
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: the mom crew now. Yeah. Dr Nita said the same thing,

618
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, that's like a thing. Yeah

619
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: it is and there's a lot of moms out there

620
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe haven't seen their rainbow babies yet.

621
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: And don't give up. My god, my friend Candice took

622
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: her twelve years. She's finally holding she had, you know,

623
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: but she's been a mom for twelve years. You know,

624
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: she just finally gets to hold her baby now. But

625
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: let's take a break. Yeah, I'm gonna go blow my

626
00:36:45,480 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: nose or something. Okay, So to keep this girl talk,

627
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: struggle talk, mommy talk a lot. I know, my my sweet,

628
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: amazing husband is over here. I got tissues right by

629
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: the bedside. Baby. Um, I love you. That's sweet that

630
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: you have empathy. But I wow, guys, Okay, but UM,

631
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: so excited because to add this funness, we have Teddy

632
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Melancamp on the show. And I think Sarah, this is

633
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: like kind of a little surprised Sarah because she is

634
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: um Sarah, our guest co host whom was so brave

635
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: and just shared about her miscarriage on the show that

636
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: she just recently went through over Easter. She's a huge

637
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Real Housewives fan, so this is kind of like a surprise.

638
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: But also let's talk about the struggle. You know. Well,

639
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: first of all, I wanted to say, like I'm so

640
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: sorry and I feel you and I know there's no

641
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: words that anybody can say that makes you feel better,

642
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: but it's also nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.

643
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: And I literally was just telling them like I cry.

644
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm not a crier, but I was like crying in

645
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: bed for like two weeks, and I think all I

646
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: did was watch Bravo, so like a part of me

647
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: was like I need to like reach out to Andy

648
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: and be like you are saving lives everywhere because it's

649
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: so true. Though like people who don't watch it don't

650
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: get it, but like I'm just I'm just Bravo fanatic.

651
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: I watch it all and so like, thank you for

652
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: helping me get through this. You know, it's a nice

653
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: escape to realize, thank goodness, that is not my life.

654
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: It really, Um yeah, I really enjoy watching Sarah. I

655
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: gotta say, and you have You're gonna be so incredibly

656
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: proud of me. But I just watched the last four

657
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: I know, I know of Beverly Hill's Housewolves, Like yeah,

658
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: are you so proud? And like Teddy is my girl?

659
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: Like I feel like Teddy, you're so misunderstood, Like your misunderstood,

660
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Like oh this season, Well, yeah, I watched the one

661
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: where she was crying at the table okay down. I

662
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because of what I went through,

663
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: but when stunt and looked at you and said and

664
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: then I found out you were pregnant, I was no, no, no,

665
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how to slap a bit. Well, I

666
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: that moment where I was completely losing it and then

667
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: you know when you're really about to lose it, and

668
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: then somebody says, guys, she's about to cry. Then I

669
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: was so angry that because that's me, like when someone's like,

670
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: you're about to cry, aren't you, And I'm like no,

671
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: but I like it makes me cry even more. And

672
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to be there so bad at that table

673
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: and be like shut like you are so mean, like

674
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: like and just take your hand and just come, you know,

675
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: just get out of there. I was so angry. I

676
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: went from like you know, and had all of the emotions.

677
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: Then when I watched it back and I looked at

678
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: what my husband was doing during it, nothing just eating

679
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: your salad and I don't breakdown, like get that last

680
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: by to fiddle. That was so funny. That's because that

681
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: was almost like yeah, he goes, I just kept hoping

682
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: that if I kept eating it would all stop. That's

683
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: exactly what I would do. So remember that, Stephanie. Remember

684
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: when Stephanie Pratt and I had that thing happened in

685
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: in California. We're like arguing, I've never gotten to a

686
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: fight with anyone in my life besides it was that,

687
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: and I was like it kind of felt good, like

688
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: for like that was like sticking up for myself, and

689
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: she was I was like no. And then she goes

690
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: down to Mike and he's eating something and just like

691
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: what's going on? And I'm just like, you know, And

692
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: then you're like he's trying to like vent me. I'm like, well,

693
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: she's my wife. I'm going to back her up. But

694
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: also I think, to y'all's credit, you guys are strong, independent,

695
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: powerful women. Were like, hey, y'all got it. There's nothing

696
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: that we can say as your husband that is more

697
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: effective than probably what y'all are doing. But when she

698
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: said you're gonna cry, it's like I felt that in

699
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: my gut because that is what like. That's when someone's like,

700
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: are you okay? Are you crying? And I'm like, or

701
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: if somebody told you to relax. Oh you're dead, it's

702
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: a full situation. No, he was quiet during the whole thing,

703
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: but then of course on the car ride home he's like,

704
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you overreacted, and I was like that

705
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: what you want to hear? How do you deal with

706
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: the criticism? I know we were texting the other day because, um,

707
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, trolls can be kind of mean, and sometimes

708
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: when you're on an you know, a huge show like that,

709
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: people can say, oh, you know, you're this and you're that,

710
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: and it's like, I can only imagine if Mike and

711
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: I ever do that show. It's you know, I see

712
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: the the comments that they do on the podcast and

713
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: not too hard. It's like they don't see the inside

714
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: of every single day and you know, we're just trying

715
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: to have a personality and be on and it can

716
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: be taken so out of context. And how do you

717
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: deal with that when it's you know, your your life

718
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: is on the TV and then you're having to read

719
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: these these comments about that you nag your husband too much.

720
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: It's like, what what wife doesn't nag their husband? You know? Well,

721
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think the first thing that I always

722
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: try to remember is like I signed up to be

723
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: myself and that's the good, the bad, and the ugly,

724
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: and they are They're never gonna edit you to be

725
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: somebody that you're not, but they're gonna focus on something

726
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: that you are. So like I'm Type A and you're

727
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: not gonna ever miss that. Like they are going to

728
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: focus in on that every single time. So may peo

729
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: don't see that. Like I can kind of make fun

730
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: of myself or not take myself too seriously or I

731
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: like laughing or those types of things. So what I

732
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: try to do in regards to like the social media

733
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: trolls is like I play into it. So they were brutal,

734
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, like crying baby, what's wrong with you? So

735
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: then I like make my entire Instagram all about songs

736
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: about cry babies the end. That's amazing, and just like

737
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: prod at that because like here, you know, it is

738
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: what it is. And like, especially when it comes to

739
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: like breaking down and being emotional, I would rather be

740
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: that than somebody that's not myself and putting on a

741
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: show to be on a show. Um, Sarah, before we

742
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: get into the infertility and miscarriages, do you do you

743
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: have a question about the Beverly Hills housewise, because I

744
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: just I mean how much. No, Okay, I'll ask one question, Okay, um,

745
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 1: do you does it all? I guess because you already filmed.

746
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: Was it so different filming without Lisa vander Pulp, Like,

747
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: was it like felt? I think the biggest thing that

748
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: was felt, and I do not know if it's because

749
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: she's gone or not, is that I got to know

750
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: all of the other women better, Like everybody seemed like

751
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: their guard was down. And that also could be because

752
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: it's my third season, or it's because they were protecting

753
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: themselves are whatever it may be. But I mean, regardless

754
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: of Lisa Vanna Pup being there or not, I mean,

755
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: we're still fighting. So honestly, it's been my Yeah, now

756
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: that she's gone, you know, like yeah, not, but I

757
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: think I do have stronger relationships with some of them,

758
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: even if you know you don't see it so much.

759
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: I have to tell Janna, Janna, I don't know if

760
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: you saw it. There's this scene where they don't show

761
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: the whole scene, but it's a flashback of Teddy telling

762
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Kyle's her like that's friend. Um if you don't know, um,

763
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: Teddy's telling Kyle that she's pregnant, and Kyle freaks out

764
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: and like so happy and starts bawling cross Literally when

765
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: I watched them, like that's like gonna be me and Janna,

766
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna like sit her down and she's gonna

767
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: lose it. But like how happy and excited Kyle was

768
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: for Teddy, I was like, oh my god, that's Jannah

769
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: because like Kyle is like in a different phase. You know,

770
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Kyle's got like older kids. If she was past it,

771
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: And I was like that excitement that I saw was

772
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: like thousand percent. But I know, Teddy, you struggled to

773
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: can Steve um and did you was your miscarriage before

774
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: IVF or was it after IBF? So I had so

775
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't get pregnant at all naturally prior to Slate

776
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: and then um, with Slate, I got pregnant doing i

777
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: U I the first shot. But I had been doing

778
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: treatments for probably a year, you know, like clod which

779
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: I call it. Have you been all of it? I

780
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: call it? And then I had the progesteron shots in

781
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: the ass where I couldn't even sit down on my butt. Yeah,

782
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: the steroids like all of those types of things. Um,

783
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: I did, and then the first time I got pregnant

784
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: with slate, with insemination um, and then with cruise um,

785
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: it just wasn't the same. And we were going through IVF,

786
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: and I think I did, like I mean, I did

787
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: so many rounds of IVF. It was to the point

788
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: where my mom and I mean my my parents, my mom,

789
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: my dad, my husband were like, you can't do it again,

790
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: like you're done, like this is your final time him

791
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: and I remember feeling like all of these crazy emotions.

792
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: I almost like hit it from my husband because I

793
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: want I didn't want him to report back to like

794
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: the doctor or my like family, like I don't think

795
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: she can do another around. But it makes you crazy,

796
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: like I remember how crazy I felt, an out of body,

797
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: and it's you try to control it, but it's almost impossible.

798
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: And and especially once you're going to the doctors and

799
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: you're reading numbers and you're trying to track like is

800
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: this is it going to be viable this time? Or

801
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: like how you know you're just it's such a mind

802
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: game and it's so emotional, and you just want to

803
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: be able to control something you can't control, and you know,

804
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: it's really hard to have faith in those moments, I

805
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: think and you know, I I truthfully felt like I

806
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: I wish I had the same mindset that I do now,

807
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: where I was open and I shared with people what

808
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: I was going through and knew how common it actually

809
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: is and how many women it does happen to because

810
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: I talk to anybody and just like went into a

811
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: depression over it because I didn't want to like have

812
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: that moment where I had to say, like, I'm broken,

813
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: I feel completely broken, because this is all we want,

814
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: this is you know, and we can't do it. Um

815
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: So I I I think that it's one of the

816
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: hardest things that you can go through, but it's also

817
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: one of the most amazing things. You know. With time,

818
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: it's just like we it's not going to be on

819
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: our time schedule. There's no perfect time. Like when people

820
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: say yeah, everything about having kids time, it's not right.

821
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: There's no perfect time, especially when you deal with these

822
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: obstacles and you know how difficult it can be and

823
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: Teddy going through what you've been through, what would you

824
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: say to someone like Sarah who just experienced this for

825
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: the very first time, Like looking back now, what would

826
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: you say, you know to Sarah or anybody else that's

827
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: dealing with this, I would say, you know, the first

828
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: thing is like, be open with I would assume you're married, um,

829
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: be open with your husband and say how you're feeling

830
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: or what you need in that moment um, and and

831
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: let it all out. And also the biggest thing is

832
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: nobody's going to tell you how to feel. Nobody's going

833
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: to tell you that this is how you should be

834
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: feeling right now, or it's gonna feel better next time,

835
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: or that they have a good feeling about next time.

836
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: It's all gonna piss you off. You know, Like the

837
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: biggest thing is just continue on knowing that when the

838
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: when the timing aligns, when it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.

839
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: And that's the only thing that keeps you positive and going.

840
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: And you know, as I wish, you know, I don't

841
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: know I could do it any differently than I did before,

842
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: but I wish I would have taken a breath during

843
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: it all. I wish I would have gone, it's gonna

844
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: be okay, We're gonna be okay, instead of just living

845
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: in that anxiety and that pressure and that all of

846
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: that that I did to myself. I am my gut.

847
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: Feel like I made it harder. But it's so hard

848
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: when you want that family. Well in like all I do,

849
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: there's nothing to do, so all day I'm on Google

850
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: all day, I'm reading blogs all day and I just

851
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: become obsessive and it's like, oh my god, I wish

852
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: so badly I could just have a life right now,

853
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: or like go somewhere because I'm like, there's nothing, you know,

854
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in this apartment and it's all I can

855
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: think about. It's all I'm which I'm like, Okay, just

856
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: think of positive thoughts. If it's all you're gonna think about,

857
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: just put out the positive energy and the positive thoughts.

858
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: But it's like, I just want to know, you know,

859
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: I like to have answers, and I mean I can

860
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 1: say this and if it will give you a little piece.

861
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: You were able to get pregnant. Yes, I know, and

862
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: that's something I am very excited and thankful for because

863
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: I've never been. I mean, this was my first everything

864
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I had never had, you know, so much as a scare,

865
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: So that for me was huge because i mean we

866
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: got married in February and then it was literally a

867
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: month later, so I'm like, Okay, So I think it's

868
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to you know, we all go through it differently.

869
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: In some weeks, it's and plus you're in a pandemic

870
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, there's so many unknowns. There's so many

871
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: things we can't control. And if you're at all you

872
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: know type A or like and you know that personality type,

873
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: then you want to be able to have the answers

874
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and you and you're gonna be a great mother, and

875
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to have all of your dreams

876
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: are going to come true. It's just not going to

877
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: happen on the timeline that we necessarily want it. And

878
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: I think giving yourself like ample amount of time to

879
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: grieve because it is a loss. Yeah, no, it's true.

880
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like we were talking to a doctor earlier.

881
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's weird timing right now, like I'm just

882
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: letting everything go. I'm just letting it happen, and like

883
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: it still doesn't make it easier though, at the end

884
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: of the day, it's still hard. It's especially when you

885
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: you want to be a mom so bad, you know,

886
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: I remember that It's like all I wanted was to

887
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: hold my child, and then you know when it happened

888
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: after Julie. It's like is this is this? It Like

889
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: it's just like you just you want to know, but

890
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: God's got the plan. It's just looking a little different. Um.

891
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I really want to talk about this

892
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: though on the Teddy Tea Pod. I want you to

893
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: come on Teddy Tea Pot too. I mean, we can

894
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: we can dig into more things. Um, what what can

895
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: listeners like if they if they listen to Teddy t

896
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: what can what can they hear besides all this goodness?

897
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: I mean essentially we just dig into different topics. So

898
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: we've even we've talked about parenting during the pandemic, which like,

899
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: let me be honest, me with core math trying to

900
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: figure out like it's a whole doozy of a situation,

901
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: like it's not fair that my first grader smarter than

902
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: I am. Um. But from that to like three songs,

903
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: it's like all over the place, and we have professionals

904
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: on for each thing or you know, specialists. So I

905
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: think that there's so much that you can learn, you

906
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: can have fun. It's any different topic that we go

907
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole on. I love that. I feel

908
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: like I just wanna I wish we could hang out, like,

909
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: I just hate this, you know, the zoom, it's just this.

910
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: You know, this is fun and all, but I just

911
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: like to be in person. You know. Yeah, you're a

912
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: physical person. I am. Yes, right, you also have your

913
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: fitness business too that you that's huge multi you know,

914
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. Um, if you go on your Instagram,

915
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: that's where people can find it, right, Yeah, you can

916
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: go in Teddy Mellencamp or go all and buy Teddy

917
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: to find either. And because of my miscarriages and infertility struggles,

918
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: that's why I ended up deciding to go all in

919
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: because I felt really lost and confused and I wasn't

920
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: opening up, and it was like the key to changing

921
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: my life. I love following your page because just seeing

922
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: all the women that you've helped and um, you know

923
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 1: how much happier they look to even like the after photos,

924
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: it's like you can just see that they're just they're

925
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: they're proud of themselves, and so I love that you're

926
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: creating that, um, that space for them. Thank you. I

927
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: think oftentimes they show like the before and after pictures

928
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: and people see the physical, but what we forget about

929
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: sometimes is how much the mental plays into it. You

930
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: can't show that on a photograph. But like when you're

931
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: feeling good you finally asked for that raise at work,

932
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: or you know whatever it may be that you're feeling stuck,

933
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you start taking action for sure, Teddy,

934
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: I love you and I hope we get to hang

935
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: soon because you're you're a badass. So um, I the

936
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: same about you, guys, and I'm thinking about you and uh,

937
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: I feel like the best is yet to come. Amen, friend,

938
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: all right, everyone will listen to Teddy t Teddy Mellencamp

939
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: love you friend. Um, I like guys, Yeah, she's so

940
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: sweet and beautiful, like I just I love her. Um.

941
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I kind of want to revisit the what um we

942
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 1: were talking about before we started the show with Tori.

943
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: So let's take a break and then we'll get tor

944
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: on alright, See, um, what do you got for us?

945
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: Because I think you were you were in a deep

946
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: thought before we started this. Yes, sorry, yes, I was

947
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: reading an email from someone and they said, sorry, was

948
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: it a wind down email or was it like just

949
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: like an email email. It was just an email for

950
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: one of our other podcasts, And I was asking Mike

951
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: would you ever date someone taller than you? Or do

952
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: guys actually take that as like a blow to the ego?

953
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 1: So I think it's too I have two answers, Mike,

954
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: did someone taller than I ever dated? Because you did? Oh,

955
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I hooked off. Was someone not taller, never

956
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: taller than me? I think you said she was. They

957
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: were tall enough. They were tall enough where if you're

958
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: like spooning or something and they're like the same close

959
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: to the same length as me on the couch, I'm like,

960
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: am I spoonting the mail right now? No? I'm no,

961
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm not really meaning that, but I'm just saying it's

962
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 1: for someone my size to like be holding someone who

963
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: is of similar size or closer to my size. It's

964
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: a little off putting. Now having said that, I'm not

965
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: intimidated by it because I'm larger. But at the same time,

966
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: if I was nothing against men that are like five

967
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: ft six or five ft seven or anything like that,

968
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: but if they are, I can see that being a

969
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: bigger blow to an ego because they're already not maybe

970
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: as tall as they would like to be, and they're

971
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: dating someone that is taller than them. I could see

972
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: that being a bigger issue. But for me, it's it's

973
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: not a blow. It wouldn't be a blow to me

974
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: because I'm you know, six five six six, so you

975
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: know obviously up dated. People try are than me. You're good. Well, No,

976
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: I dated someone who was five four yeah, wait, jam,

977
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm five four and a half and he was. He

978
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: was he's maybe five five, so wearing heels, you'd be

979
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: at least like two. I was always taller than yeah,

980
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: and I really I did really like him. We worked

981
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: on a show together, and I did like him. Sarah,

982
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: are you going? You can't find it. It was never public,

983
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: but if you google any of the shows I've been

984
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: on and then go height wise, um so, but I

985
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: really liked them. But for some reason, I've always just

986
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: liked dating men that were taller than me and that

987
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: I could wear heels in and that I could that

988
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: it was just bigger like I. I don't know, it didn't.

989
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: I guess I just like that mainly, Burt, like you,

990
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: I you're big and you're like But it doesn't mean

991
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,959
Speaker 1: that person wasn't great. It just wasn't, you know, my thing,

992
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: I guess, But they really it affected and that's one

993
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: of the reasons why we broke up, And there's naturally

994
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: a level of security or protection if you're with someone

995
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: who's physically of a certain physical stature. I make up.

996
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I will say to like Tory,

997
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: like you're taller. I know Joey is going to be taller.

998
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't ever want her to feel um self conscious

999
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: of that or not go after a guy because he

1000
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: may be shorter than her or you know, or or

1001
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: she sorry, she may be taller than him. So how

1002
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: do you go around about that too? Like does that

1003
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: kind of make you rethink things when you see a guy?

1004
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: I think that it eliminates a huge part of the

1005
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: dating pool, which is already hard enough for your own

1006
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: reasons or because you make up that they'll have an

1007
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: issue with it. No, just I don't have an issue

1008
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: dating somebody like maybe my own height, because I don't

1009
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: think like two inches is that big of adeal if

1010
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm like putting on a boot or like a heel

1011
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: or whatever. But um, I just want to feel feminine.

1012
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: It's like my thing. So he would have to have

1013
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: like stef like if I can't fit in his pants,

1014
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: Like that's just like terra fund Like if I put

1015
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: on his sweats and they were like skin tight on me,

1016
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: like that would make me feel terrible totally, like we

1017
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: want to be swallowed in them. Like yeah, I want

1018
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: to put on a hoodie and I'm like where that

1019
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: as a dress? So that's like my only thing is

1020
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: like that's like a little bit of a preference for me,

1021
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: is just feeling like feminine. And I think it's okay

1022
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: to say and like want that because there's no issue

1023
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: with that at all, because I don't want people to

1024
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: think I'm like being shallow or no. They know if

1025
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: someone takes that a shallow then they were being ridiculous.

1026
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's also a conversation of like the century,

1027
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, but weirdly tall woman in short men is

1028
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: like a new trend. I mean, hey, whatever whatever you into,

1029
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Whatever you're into, We're all into, you know,

1030
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: different things. I like bald men. My husband's bald. I

1031
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: like men with gray hair, you know, like waiting for

1032
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 1: the day. I can't wait until Mike's the beard gets

1033
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: I grow my beard out more often now because you

1034
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: can see more gray silver fox just like super handsome

1035
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: silver Fox. Love love the gray can't wait till your

1036
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: dad's age. It would be sixty years old. I really

1037
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: love you, and it speak when you're sixty Mike. I

1038
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: just I love Grey. What did you say, is Sarah?

1039
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, I just said I love an old man,

1040
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: like I get that you do. Really, I would have

1041
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: never thought Tie is such a baby like baby face.

1042
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: He makes so much fun of me, like my top

1043
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: like five are like, well, we're gonna start with like

1044
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, then we might Governor Cuomo is right up

1045
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: my alley. Um, I've always been attracted to like a

1046
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: young George Bush. And by young, I mean like fifties. Um. Yeah,

1047
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm prosessed with this conversation. Oh it's

1048
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: like a thing around our ties, Like, oh my god,

1049
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I'm very excited for Tie to like look

1050
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: like Wayne confess that I have a major crush on

1051
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: Sarah's dad. Oh, like I feel like blushing abound him

1052
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: at I have. I have a crush on Sarah's sister,

1053
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: And I made that very clear at the wedding. I

1054
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Speaker 1: was like, I'm kind of crushing on your sister, her

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Speaker 1: lesbian sister. She's reminds me of Brandy Carlyle I am

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Speaker 1: a Tory did call me the other day. She's like,

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Speaker 1: I think I had to crush on your dad literally

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Speaker 1: like with like blushing like on the danceler. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: why do you look kind of hot and sexy to

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Speaker 1: me right now? Sylvia is gonna get you, girl, But

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Speaker 1: you've got some tough competition with Sylvia. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: But I also had a crush on her mom too.

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Speaker 1: I could see I could see having a crush on

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Speaker 1: your dad like he is, but he's almost like too nice,

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Speaker 1: so like I would need a little touch more of

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Speaker 1: like and that's like I made like the first interaction

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Speaker 1: with Tom, I made like a sexual joke and Sis like,

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Speaker 1: oh god, oh, that was the most uncomfortable part of

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Speaker 1: Sarah's wedding. I could not do you remember what he said.

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Speaker 1: It was something like you make a man, or like

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Speaker 1: get on your knees or something. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: that it was get on your knees, and I was

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Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, are you asking him to like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god. I was so uncomfortable. I was like,

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Speaker 1: and this is the first interaction with Mr Cusick. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: that's you either make or break the relationship right off

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Speaker 1: the bat. Guys, I'm in a weird way. I hope

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Speaker 1: you feel this to Sarah. I love that we're ending

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Speaker 1: with laughter. It was very therapeutic and we need a

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Speaker 1: good lat Yeah that was. I love you again. I

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Speaker 1: think you're the bravest woman that I know. And um yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I love this was. I hope. I hope

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Speaker 1: you feel so much love when this airs so um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good place to end it, all right, Well

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Speaker 1: here's the gray hair. I love you, guys. Fe