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Speaker 1: Everybody's Bill Courtney with an army or normal folks. Shop

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Speaker 1: Talk number sixty four. Welcome into the shop. You brought

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Speaker 2: I think they're mad that you haven't been letting them

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Speaker 2: ring the bell turning shop talk. They've been giving you

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Speaker 1: Oh are they? Who's ring the bell?

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Speaker 2: How A don't we let Landry give it you first?

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Speaker 1: Guess?

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Speaker 2: First guess first, Landry.

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Speaker 1: Guess first, Landry. Come on, Landy, get your bought over

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Speaker 1: here where shop talks open. You gotta let everybody know

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Speaker 1: ring that thing. All right, there you go, say I'm Landry.

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Speaker 1: Hold it not yet, say I'm Landry. This is shop

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Speaker 1: top number sixty four. Welcome to the shop Talk. There

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Speaker 1: we go, Landry, welcome to this in number sixty four,

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Speaker 1: number sixty number of Jerry Kramer. I'll be dad gummed

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Speaker 1: it is the number Jerry Kramer. All right, So here's

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Speaker 1: the deal Alex is making me do this shop talk.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to discuss it begrudgingly again. But at the

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Speaker 1: opening of every show we talk about how I was

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Speaker 1: a football coach in inner City Memphis. That led to

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Speaker 1: shop Talk number sixty four when we come back. I'm back, baby,

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Speaker 1: Coach Bill's back on the sidelines. In just a minute.

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Speaker 1: We'll see in a second. Okay, everybody, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Shop Talk number sixty four. Here's the deal. There's a

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Speaker 1: school in Memphis called Middle College High School. It's a

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, he's so impatient. Here we go. It's called

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Speaker 1: Middle College High School. It is a public school, and

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Speaker 1: it's called a choice school. And the word choice means

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Speaker 1: Kids have to take a personal interview with administration. They

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Speaker 1: It's called Middle College. Oh I learned yesterday in fact,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're more likely to know what you're doing

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Speaker 1: That's the other thing that they say is after taking

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Speaker 2: There's so many seniors in college you still have no

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's a small, single a school. There's only

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Speaker 2: It's not a big field for a football team.

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Speaker 1: years ago, Lisa and I at a Mexican restaurant, minding

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Speaker 1: I like cheese achalades. What do y'all like for Mexican?

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite? I like you like Caesadilla's? Okay? One

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Speaker 2: It's like a really hot stew. Or they put like

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Speaker 1: What do you like? Abrito? Good burrito? That's two votes burritos.

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Speaker 2: Even you need that inspiration, I do. We all need it,

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Speaker 1: I'm a normal dude, we start every show. I'm just

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Speaker 1: College High School in Mephic, Tennessee, keep up with us.

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Speaker 1: This season we open where a little single A school

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Speaker 1: I've raised a lot of money to get new equipment

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars we've raised

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Speaker 1: It was we did the same thing of an Assis.

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Speaker 1: We had to raise fifteen to twenty thousand dollars a year.

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