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Speaker 2: we're doing it right smack dab in the middle of

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Speaker 2: the season. We're jampacked high top. Beautiful. New York City

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Speaker 2: So the thing about growing up in rural Georgia is

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Speaker 2: it really prepares you for life in New York City. Thursday,

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Speaker 2: October twenty fourth, The over Lord twenty twenty four, proudly

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Academy Sports and Outdoors.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, we got blue Bloods.

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Speaker 2: In peril right now, and they're freaking out at Michigan

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Speaker 2: and they're freaking out at Florida State, and believe it

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Speaker 2: what's the truth behind all of this? I will talk

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Speaker 2: to you about that this afternoon. I have got Cole

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Speaker 2: do you fix chronically penalized teams? And don't just be

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Speaker 2: So I am doing the show early today because we're

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Speaker 2: If you're not following already over there at late kick Josh. Also,

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Speaker 2: I watched the guy at multiple stops have one of

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Speaker 2: do you really think that's Alabama permanently under Kaylin Deboor?

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Speaker 2: You really think that's Tailen de Bores Alabama, No, that's

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Speaker 1: That's happening in college football right now. It's gonna be unique.

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Speaker 2: And my point is I think Kaitlin Debor and his

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Speaker 1: Here's the ad read. It just says Academy.

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Speaker 2: that's because we've been locked arm in arm with Academy

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Speaker 2: Alex grinches out. He brings in D'Anton lynn from across town.

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00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 2: They massively upgrade the defensive staff. It's already had great returns.

438
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: They are much much improved on that side of the ball.

439
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 2: So why does it sound so doom and gloom in

440
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 2: the mood tracker? Well, the problem is they've lost four

441
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 2: games already this year, and the fan base looks around

442
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: and says, wait a second, it's not year one, it's

443
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 2: your three. Who in the world that's a major program

444
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: gets to talk about rebuilding.

445
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 1: In year three.

446
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 2: It's a totally fair and valid argument from the guy

447
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 2: who preaches patients all the time. If you're a University

448
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: of Southern California football fan and you're looking at your

449
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: head coach, you spent a lot of well, you spent

450
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: a lot of money on him through your program, and

451
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 2: you brought him in in there with these sky high

452
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: expectations and you were sold this bill of goods on

453
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: what's going to happen when USC football fuses and merges

454
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,719
Speaker 2: with the new nil and portal landscape. And you're in

455
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: year three losing four games before Halloween and being sold

456
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 2: on a rebuild. You got a problem, and you got

457
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: a reason to view it as a problem. So I

458
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: don't have an issue with people who feel that way.

459
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: But it's a year one vibe, and it's the right vibe.

460
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: But it's two years too late, and so I see

461
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: both sides of this.

462
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: Now.

463
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: I sit in Nashville, normally, that's where I live, and

464
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: it's easy for me to look across the country and say, look,

465
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: I mean, so what he made some poor hires, So

466
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: what they got out of the gate on the wrong foot.

467
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean, let him rebuild the program. It's easy for

468
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: me to say that I'm not a season ticket holder.

469
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have a closet full of USC gear, don't.

470
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: I'm not a season ticket holder. I'm not a boit Trump,

471
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 2: not anything like that. So that's easy for me to say.

472
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 2: But if you are one, if you're out there living

473
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: in Rancho Kucamongo and you go to the Coliseum, you're

474
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: eight times per year and you're kind of fed up

475
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: with year three. That's when you're gonna rebuild. How about

476
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: when you first get here. I can't argue with you,

477
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 2: but I will make this pitch. If you feel that way,

478
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: hit pause on your feeling and bite the bullet for

479
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: just a second.

480
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: Just humor me.

481
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: Let's say you're a USC fan and you decide. Even

482
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: though it shouldn't have taken to year three, at least

483
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley saw things the right way in year three.

484
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: At least he made the right staff moves. At least

485
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: he's talking about recruiting pass rushers. Now, you know, all

486
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: this stuff should have been day one stuff.

487
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing to you about that.

488
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm asking can you bite the bullet for just a second,

489
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 2: and can you just clinch your fist and say okay? Well,

490
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: at least he sees it. Now least we're on the

491
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: right trajectory. Now, if you're willing to meet me there,

492
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: for argument's sake, this is what it should look like

493
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: if you're going down that road. It is what it

494
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 2: should look like. Because yeah, they've lost four games. They've

495
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: all been won possession losses. They have led in the

496
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: fourth quarter of each of those games. So there's a

497
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: world where this is a one loss team. There's a

498
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 2: world where this is an undefeated team, honestly, and it's

499
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: not all that different than what the current state of

500
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: the program and the team is.

501
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: The thing about it is you judge no wins.

502
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: And losses so close. Losses are losses, and I get that.

503
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not trying to sell you otherwise. I'm

504
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: just saying it's not a terrible spot to be in.

505
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of reasons for optimism. But

506
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: as much as I say that, there is one point

507
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: of caution that you have to make with calculating the

508
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: future of USC football. See, I believe in Lincoln Riley.

509
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: Like I'm the guy a few years ago who said

510
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: I think he can win a national championship.

511
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: I still feel that way.

512
00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 2: I don't think this USC program is miles away. I

513
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 2: think in the aggregate it is now heading in the

514
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: right direction. It will not happen overnight. So all that's

515
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: well and good, but there is a misnomer that just

516
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: because you hire right and just because you say the

517
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: right things, and then you initially see the inertia start

518
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: to change, that you get to like place a bookmark

519
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: every night and you get to start a new chapter

520
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: the next day. That's not the way this works. The

521
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: way this works is it's a minefield. Every day you

522
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: don't make a certain amount of progress and then get

523
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: to art. Let's put the bookmark there, Let's close the

524
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: book of progress for today, and we'll open it right

525
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: back up tomorrow where we start it. You can still fall.

526
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: It's a very treacherous climb. That's why it's so hard

527
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: to do. That's why a bunch of programs have found

528
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: ways to wander in the wilderness for a long time.

529
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee football is a very good example. You know, you

530
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: start to make a couple of days, a couple of weeks,

531
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: a couple.

532
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: Of months worth of progress, and then boom.

533
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: That's how easy it can happen. That's the great uncertainty

534
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: of Lincoln Riley. Right now, I can believe all I

535
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: want to in the guy. I can believe in the vision,

536
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: I can believe in the hires, I believe in all

537
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: of those things. I can still believe that the recruiting

538
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: profile can be rectified out there, But there is no guarantee.

539
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: Even if you're right on all that, then it'll work out.

540
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: So college football does not have bookmarks. It's not the

541
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: way it works. It would be wonderful if it did,

542
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: because that would mean you could save all your progress

543
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: and you could just take that for granted, and that

544
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: was the default position you could work off of.

545
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: Nope, doesn't work that way. Does not work that way.

546
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: They're watching this in Hernando, Mississippi, Carol Iowa, Athens, Georgia,

547
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: and Columbia, South Carolina.

548
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: We appreciate you, guys.

549
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: Now, take a little sip of coffee, not from the

550
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: chalice unfortunately, just a common old styrofoam cup here. But

551
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 2: that's why we're wearing the black shirt. We wear the

552
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: darks on the road, we wear the whites at home.

553
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: And every one of you who made fun of that

554
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: suit I was wearing last night, I forgive you. I

555
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: don't forget, but I forgive you. I am hoomstea am.

556
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to tell you. I am

557
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: whomsta am.

558
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Not an English major.

559
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: Clemson football is the shark fin off the shore of

560
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: college football right now. They are in full on stealth

561
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 2: support mode. That's the mood around Clemson stealth support, and

562
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: that is basically where you stay quiet, put your hand

563
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: over your mouth, you pump your fist under the table,

564
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: because you know that Georgia body bagged you in week one.

565
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: No one wants to revisit that, but it happened, and

566
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: then everyone forgot about you. Everyone tossed you on the

567
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: scrap heap, maybe including me. And that's a fact. But

568
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: there's another fact, and that is if you tossed Clemson

569
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: on the scrap heap after Week one, all you did

570
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: was toss Dabos Swiney right into his wheelhouse. That guy

571
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: wants to live on the margins and on the fringes.

572
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: He wants to be doubted. That is his fuel.

573
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: Little Old Clemson was a phrase that didn't exist fifteen

574
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: years ago, and he came along and basically invented it.

575
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: And in the process, all they did was build a

576
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: powerhouse program beat Alabama twice in national championship matchups, which

577
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: I still think is one of the most underappreciated chapters

578
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: in color television college football history.

579
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: No one else did it.

580
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: No one else did it in a world where it

581
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: shrank so much, the prism of who can and can't

582
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: win at the highest level shrink so much that guy

583
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: went to a non blue blood having never been a

584
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: head coach, and ended up creating a model and fostering

585
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: a culture that not only was able to meet Alabama

586
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: in big moments, they beat him twice and the third

587
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: time was a really good game.

588
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: So the mood there.

589
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: Is sort of matching what's happened after the Georgia game.

590
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: Nobody's mentioning them. I think LSU and Clemson I'm going

591
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: to talk to Cublic about that in a little while.

592
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: I think they're the two wildcard teams down the old

593
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: stretch in college football this year because they're the teams

594
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: that technically have enough talent on the roster that if

595
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: things fall into place, they could really surprise some people.

596
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, as fun as some of these Big

597
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: twelve teams are, I'm not sure that they have the

598
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: overall speed and raw talent and athleticism prerequisites to make

599
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: noise deep into the playoff.

600
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: But Clemson does, LSU does. There is If.

601
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: Let's say, if I'm not going to speak in definitives,

602
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: if there's no elite team out there and many of

603
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: us are buying into that working theory, well, then that

604
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: means the door is cracked for not everyone, but several

605
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: more teams than usual. Someone could kick that thing down

606
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: and it can be Clemson. But you got to be

607
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: careful because I want you to remember Texas. It won't

608
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: be hard for you because it was just last week.

609
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: It was five days ago. As we sit here right

610
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: now talking on Thursday. When Georgia went into Austin, really

611
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: reminded Texas, you're not there yet. And that hurt because

612
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Texas looked like they were there. Texas believed they were there.

613
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: Texas was favored against Georgia in Austin, and the eyes

614
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: of the entire world were on the University of Texas

615
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: and they fell and got physically owned in the process.

616
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: And that sounds a lot like what happened to you

617
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: in Week one against Georgia. There is a world where

618
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: Clemson is still fraudulent. I don't want to live in

619
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: that world. I happen to like Clemson. I happen to

620
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: want them to do good things. But we got to

621
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: be careful because you haven't played much of anyone. There's

622
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: the schedule and after the Georgia game, what it looked

623
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: like in the preseason was, ooh man, they're going to

624
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: play Georgia and an app state. App State's not one

625
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: to be trifled with. Turns out they are in state

626
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: in C state, sleeper in the ACC.

627
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: No, they're just asleep.

628
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: There's a big difference Stanford Florida state, and so no

629
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: one's tested you.

630
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: You know my Usain Bolt theory. If Usain Bolt showed up.

631
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: To a middle school track and field event, he would

632
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: smoke all the little children. He's still Usain Bolt. Just

633
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: because he didn't race against anyone doesn't make him any

634
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: less a world class sprinter. However, I could also show

635
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: up to a middle school track and field event and

636
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: smoke those kids, and would happily do so for free.

637
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: I would not be a world class sprinter. I would

638
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: just look like one. Is Clemson Usain Bolt or is

639
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: Clemson me perfect? Out of context clip for later, But

640
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: the difference could be, if you want to take the

641
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: negative tone here, the only difference in Texas and Clemson

642
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: maybe when.

643
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: They play Georgia.

644
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: As it turns out now, I happen to still own

645
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: stock in both of these teams. So I am not

646
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: personally raining on your parade. I'm just saying someone else

647
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: could walk in the door like dark JP could walk

648
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: in the door and make that point, and I'd say,

649
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: shame on you. But you may be right, but shame

650
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: on you. Anyway, there is no Miami on their schedule.

651
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: They got the best odds to win the ACC right now,

652
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: there's no Miami, there's no SMU.

653
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: I think they do.

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Speaker 2: Play pitt But we are also in a world where

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Speaker 2: we have three unbeaten teams in the ACC, at which

656
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Speaker 2: point all out chaos unfolds. And you want to just

657
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Speaker 2: go before we bring cublic in. If you want to

658
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Speaker 2: go full on sicko mode, I mean, if you want

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Speaker 1: Let's say you've had a bad week.

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Speaker 2: Let's say things aren't great at home, the finances aren't

663
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Speaker 2: exactly in order, there's trouble at work. Man, you're still

664
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Speaker 2: not Florida State Football, Florida State. The mood around there

665
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: is just numb. The fan base is numb. People in

666
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Speaker 2: the administration, how can you ever make sense of this?

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Speaker 2: It is so far off the chart, Like if I

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Speaker 2: were to chart all of the examples, all of the outcomes,

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Speaker 1: Data points of any other team.

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Speaker 2: That's existed in history, expectation versus result. You've got the

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Speaker 2: piece of paper and then well, off that piece of paper,

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Speaker 2: that's where the dot is for Florida State circa twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to make of it.

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Speaker 2: They are so bad, like they are so beyond the

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Speaker 2: pale of believability. And I should know because I bet

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Speaker 2: on them last week, Colin, that's the duke game, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I'm watching this game last week. I mean, I

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681
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Speaker 2: plus three and a half. And you know what the

682
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Speaker 2: thing about it is, it was the right side technically.

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Speaker 2: It was just they were minus and turnovers. And we've

684
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Speaker 2: always we've come to know a long time ago. If

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Speaker 2: you bet this sport, if you bet sports period, you understand,

686
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there are outlier results, and there are randomized

687
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Speaker 2: statistical categories that no model, no predictive model, could account for.

688
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Speaker 2: Turnovers are one of them. Except with Florida State. It

689
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Speaker 2: happens every week with Florida State. The receivers fight the

690
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Speaker 2: ball in the air every week. They are so situationally unaware.

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Speaker 2: They're an ignorant football team. I'm not calling the people

692
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Speaker 2: on the team ignorant, but collectively as a team, they

693
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Speaker 2: are very, very bad. And the reason that shocking is

694
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Speaker 2: because of where they ended last season. And we're coming

695
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Speaker 2: to learn, using FSU as the poster child for this,

696
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Speaker 2: that in the new age of college football, especially when

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Speaker 2: you lean on the portal, there is no limit. There's

698
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Speaker 2: no ceiling and there's no floor. It could be great.

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Speaker 2: You could go win a national title. If Jordan Travis

700
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Speaker 2: had not gotten hurt last year, maybe they would have.

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Speaker 2: There's no ceiling on how high you can climb as

702
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Speaker 2: a team. But man, there's no floor. There is no basement,

703
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Speaker 2: there is no level under the basement. You could fall

704
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Speaker 2: so hard and so fast. We do best worst in

705
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Speaker 2: most likely scenarios every summer. I don't remember off the

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Speaker 2: top of my head what we said the worst case

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Speaker 2: was for Florida State. It's not even close to this.

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Speaker 2: It was so far beyond the realm of believability that

709
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Speaker 2: they could be this bad, just beyond total buds. So

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Speaker 2: I don't think that this is all Mike Norvel. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to get a lot of pushback on that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Florida State fans are ready to run him out of town.

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Speaker 2: Just months after he signed a brand new contract extension

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Speaker 2: down there, which makes it not feasible in all likelihood.

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Speaker 2: But even if it was feasible, there's just no way

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Speaker 2: is all Mike Norvel. He's responsible for it all. I'm

718
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Speaker 2: not suggesting otherwise, but we're if we're really getting down

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720
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Speaker 2: be so much more in the equation than just Mike

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Speaker 2: Norvel fooled us last year. It was all Jordan Travis

722
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Speaker 2: is doing, and he's really a below average head coach

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 2: Having said that, I also don't know how they fix

726
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Speaker 2: it because this is so far off the comparable data

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Speaker 2: point chart that we start asking. I start asking myself,

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730
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Speaker 2: Is it possible for things to be so bad that

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735
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Speaker 2: if they go six and six or seven and five.

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Speaker 2: It's a vast underachievement of a season, considering you were

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Speaker 2: favored to win the conference. But you could at least

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they do that.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea how they do that, but maybe

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Speaker 2: Got some interesting things to talk about. Recorded this earlier today,

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Speaker 2: Here is our chat weekly with Cole Cuba. Cole Kublick

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Speaker 2: is doing Texas Vanderbilt this Saturday. I will be at

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Speaker 2: Texas Vanderbilt this Saturday. You can get awkward sometimes in person,

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Speaker 2: so it could be that you have to pass me

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Speaker 2: But this is going to be a game that has

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Speaker 2: the nation's interest. Not that all of the games don't,

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Speaker 2: but Texas goes into a place that was already a

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Speaker 2: I'm doing inside College Football last night. They're teeing up

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Speaker 2: the question could it actually happen? Could the unthinkable happen? Well,

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Speaker 2: the line's eighteen and a half, so we have bigger

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Speaker 2: upsets than that every Saturday. So let me ask you

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Speaker 2: Do you think any differently of them? Or how differently

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Speaker 2: do you think of them? If you do coming off

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Speaker 2: the Georgia game as opposed to what you thought about

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Speaker 2: them going.

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Speaker 3: In, I do feel a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a game, Josh, where Georgia came

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Speaker 4: in with the mentality of we're gonna prove that there's

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Speaker 4: I can't really think of the exact word to use,

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Speaker 4: but I used rugged this week, which essentially piling together

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Speaker 4: more physical, more intense, maybe have a little bit more

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Speaker 4: of an edge. Yeah, the only way that I mean

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Speaker 4: in football world, we would describe it as more mf

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Speaker 4: rors on that team, and so I think they came

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Speaker 4: in to kind of prove that, and they did so.

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Speaker 4: My only concern though with Texas off of that, would

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Speaker 4: be is there are there enough other areas in which

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Speaker 4: they can impose their will on a team, where they

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Speaker 4: can go take a game, so to speak. So if

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Speaker 4: they're playing Miami or they're playing Ohio State, and that

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Speaker 4: thing's kind of even in all aspects. Do they have

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Speaker 4: enough guys where they can say, this group or this

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Speaker 4: part of our team is gonna go take over this

868
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: football game.

869
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: They're gonna go get that game for us, because I think.

870
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: A lot of us thought the offensive line along with

871
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: the tight ends could sort of do that if they

872
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: needed to. They might not be that kind of a

873
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 4: group up front offensively. Defensively, I think they still can be,

874
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: but that would probably be And then two, they got

875
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: to push the ball down the field more like all

876
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: of the You and I talked about it the detachments,

877
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: and we talked about it on Red and React Monday night.

878
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: The backs out of the backfield, the tight ends out

879
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: of the backfield. For the most part, Georgia defended those

880
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: very very well, tackled well in the open field. Now,

881
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 4: they got two touchdowns down in the red zone off

882
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 4: of them, but that wasn't something that Texas lived on

883
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: in that game.

884
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: You have these.

885
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: Athletes at receiver, this speed at receiver. You're gonna have

886
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: to attack down the field. It can't just all be

887
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: slants and balls out in the flat to create your

888
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 4: explosive play. So that's something I want to make sure

889
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: that Texas is still gonna be capable of doing.

890
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: I think the way they pull that off if Vandy

891
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: were to, you know, be in that thing mid fourth

892
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: quarter is what you just said. So you've got a

893
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: box score in front of you that shows Texas's longest

894
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: pass play is thirty two yards or something like that.

895
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: Vandy's made him go on sustained eight nine ten play

896
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: drives in order to get in the end zone. And

897
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: in the course of doing that, you sort of revisit

898
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: what bit them last week.

899
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Four turnops. I guess Georgia.

900
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: George's got six scoring drives. Four of them begin territory,

901
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: another one starts on the Georgia forty five. Look, you

902
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: mentioned something with Texas there. So in the preseason, when

903
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: you're looking for dominant units and you talk about offensive

904
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: line a lot. You're on the Joe More Award committee,

905
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: you played the position. Do you find it Maybe you

906
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: don't find it interesting. I always find it interesting how

907
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: we always want to grade these by unit. Very rarely

908
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: does the college football you know, public at large, break

909
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: down individual offensive linemen.

910
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: It's all the collective. It's the unit.

911
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: We think this is the best O line, second best

912
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 2: O line. And then you know, when you guys meet

913
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: for the Joe Moore Award or when you're just breaking

914
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: down offensive line, you find it interesting how rarely you

915
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 2: look at a one through five across the front group

916
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: in college football and find yourself saying, they're exactly what

917
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: I thought they'd be in the preseason. Everybody across that

918
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: line is playing up to standard.

919
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: It's always.

920
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: Eh. But it's all even with LSU, like with the

921
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: tackles this year, there were preseason all whatever everywhere. And

922
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: it's not that they're bad, Like it's not that Campbell's bad,

923
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: it's not anything like that. But the talk around them

924
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: right now seems to be eh. Yeah, I mean they

925
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: could they could be, but they're not quite yet. And

926
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: the same has been the case with Georgia. I mean,

927
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: does that strike you? Is that the way you feel

928
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: like it goes every season?

929
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 4: A lot of times. I think there were a couple

930
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: of outliers with some Alabama teams in the later third

931
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 4: of the Saban run. A couple of these Michigan teams

932
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 4: the last few years, we have essentially known they were

933
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: going to.

934
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: Be really good, and then they've been really good.

935
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: The year Quentin Nelson was coming back for Notre Dame,

936
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: that was one that probably lived up to the standard

937
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 4: and the hype. But you're right, it's and then there

938
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: are some that you project a little bit further ahead

939
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: when people say they just laugh at you, like Tennessee,

940
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 4: and I do think that Tennessee was kind of on

941
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 4: an upper trend, leveled out and maybe on a small

942
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: downward trend. Now, some of that's injuries. Some of those

943
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: guys just not want to play football. But I mean

944
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 4: you saw you didn't see Lance Hurd it left tackle

945
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 4: against Alabama start the game, So.

946
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: I think some of that has to do with it.

947
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: The origin would be more injury related, and they've had

948
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 4: a couple of groups recently that we thought we're gonna

949
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 4: be really good and that sort of maintain that standard.

950
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: But like with the LSU, they're playing great football.

951
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: It's just some of this too.

952
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: Joss is circumstance and opportunity, So it's no different than

953
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow going in his senior year, everybody says, man,

954
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: he got so much better. Well, no, he was given

955
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: opportunities to do things he could already do.

956
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: He just didn't get I mean, he was a short

957
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: yardage back the year before.

958
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 4: In twenty eighteen, LSU, that offensive line is not getting

959
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: a chance to impose their will in the run game.

960
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: They're great in pass pro, but LSU doesn't run the

961
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: ball a whole lot. So I think it's like you

962
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: go back to a couple of Bambah lines that were dominant,

963
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 4: but two was the quarterback and they're getting double team

964
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 4: six yards down the field and here comes the slant

965
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 4: over their head.

966
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 3: And Saban would even address that and.

967
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: Say, what would you do after the eighth or ninth

968
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: time in a game that you crust somebody and they

969
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 4: keep throwing passes over you. He's like, inherently you're gonna say, Mac,

970
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: we don't need to do that on this play. So

971
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 4: a lot of it is very different than we thought.

972
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: A lot of it, I think now more than you're

973
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: gonna see groups slowly improve over the course of the season. Ohio,

974
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: the States group, and it's unfortunate they lose their left tackle.

975
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: They get a little better and better. I think A

976
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: and M is a group that's kind of slowly ascending.

977
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: Florida.

978
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 4: Group's a lot better than it was weeks one and two,

979
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: so I think you'll see more of that, and then

980
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: some of the ones that we just kind of take

981
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: all miss for example, I mean, they're already all pissed

982
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 4: at me anyway, so it doesn't really matter. Everybody just

983
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: thought we took two guys from last year's Joe More

984
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 4: Award winning offensive line, so we're good. We got a

985
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: good offensive line, and it does not really work that way.

986
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: There's continuity that comes with it, feel understanding, and so

987
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 4: that's a group that has struggled for a lot of

988
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 4: this season. So yeah, it's definitely not check the boxes

989
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 4: of what we thought and it's all working out that way.

990
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: You're talking about LSU there. I think LSU to me

991
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: is the biggest wildcard team in this whole picture right now.

992
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: There are flaws we're figuring out about teams. There are

993
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: strengths either that we thought that have been validated or

994
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: are starting to scale to what they should have been.

995
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: All along with LSU. What was interesting about that Arkansas

996
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 2: game last week as opposed to the old miss game

997
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: the week before is it should have been a bad

998
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: spot for LSU. And even if they that game, I

999
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: thought dog fight win. And not only did they go

1000
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: in there against arrested Arkansas team with all the motivation

1001
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: in the world, they handled the game. They out rushed Arkansas,

1002
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: they ran the ball as well as they have all season.

1003
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: They shut Arkansas down on the ground. The defensive staff

1004
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: there has been able to generate pressure. The players a

1005
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: courtesy of the defensive stats, been able to generate pressure.

1006
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: And so you combine that with three really dependable pass catchers,

1007
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 2: good tight end, and then you've got a quarterback that

1008
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: I'm not going to call him an unknown. I'm gonna

1009
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: call him right along with the team a big wildcard

1010
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 2: because if Garrett Nussmayer has a hot November like LSU

1011
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: could be in Atlanta LS you could be playing for

1012
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: and competing for the SEC championship. And I will admit

1013
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: that's not something I thought I'd be saying when I

1014
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: watched them barely survive South Carolina a.

1015
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: Few weeks ago.

1016
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of college football and that you've got

1017
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: still a very developmental style game, and some of these

1018
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: teams do this crazy thing and they get better over

1019
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: the course of a season. That's the team I've got

1020
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: right now, to a certain degree, Clemson as well, but

1021
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 2: LSU is by far my biggest wildcard team in this picture,

1022
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: because unlike some of these other teams who's ceiling may

1023
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: still be a little beneath that of a national championship contender.

1024
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: If all the pieces fell into place for LSU and

1025
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 2: you fast forward into January, you wouldn't shock me showing

1026
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: them in semi final contention.

1027
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 4: No, And I'll tell you that here's one of the

1028
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: things that I can remember having long conversations about five

1029
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: years ago, six years seven, eight years ago, that is

1030
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: still omnipresident in college football. Your first three or four games,

1031
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 4: the actual game reps, and I've talked to players about this.

1032
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: This kind of got going. Remember Tray Smith had the

1033
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: blood clot deal and he did not practice during the week,

1034
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: and so he finally comes back Week four or five,

1035
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: whatever it was, he didn't play well well. Then all

1036
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 4: of a sudden Week eight. I mean, he was literally

1037
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 4: that guy that looked like a character on Street Fighter

1038
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 4: that was throwing people around. And we had them late

1039
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: in the season and I said, were your game reps

1040
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: essentially practice reps, and he said, yeah, I had to

1041
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 4: use those because I wasn't going out there and practicing. Well,

1042
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 4: it's a little bit different, but it's not where there's

1043
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 4: so little contact in fall the only way to get

1044
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 4: good upfront offense or defense is to do it in

1045
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 4: full pads, full speed against people trying to make you

1046
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: look bad. Well, that's so limited now that a lot

1047
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: of people don't have a feel of what it is

1048
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: or who they are what they are, So it takes

1049
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: three four games along with those game reps and then

1050
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: more practice reps to get to what you're talking about

1051
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 4: better improve actually and know what the guy next to

1052
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: you is gonna do and not do and what he.

1053
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: Needs help with. So in quarterbacks receivers.

1054
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 4: Getting on same page that physicality takes time to get

1055
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 4: a feel for. I'm with you on LSU. I think

1056
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: running back hasn't been healthy. They're starting to figure that

1057
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 4: out a little bit. They got aliens at wide receiver.

1058
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 4: You're not going to really be able to just match

1059
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: up with them out there. And like you said, the

1060
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 4: tight end can work the middle of the field in

1061
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: the flat. Defensively, though, is what I really like I mean,

1062
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 4: you got a legit edge presence. Now with number four

1063
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: forty is turning it into a game wrecker.

1064
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: Like with Weeks, is one of those guys we talked

1065
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 3: about earlier.

1066
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 4: That can take over a game because I don't think

1067
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: that he is the most assignment sound linebacker or the

1068
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: most read the keys and react linebacker. He's seaball, get ball,

1069
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 4: go a track and that entire defense. This is a

1070
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 4: little hard to explain because I don't it feels super elementary.

1071
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: But when I watch LSU, what I feel like Blake Baker.

1072
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: Has done is gotten them to buy into at full

1073
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: speed attacking the football. And I think last year it

1074
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: was a little bit kind of like way leverage, leverage

1075
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: the sideline, stay in your gap, stay in your space.

1076
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 4: I think Blake Baker's like, hey man, here's the gasoline,

1077
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 4: pour it on your hair, light it on fire, and

1078
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: just go rip and try to knock somebody down. And

1079
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: they do that and it's working for them. So the

1080
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 4: biggest concern would be that Garrett Nussemeyer thinks he can

1081
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: fit the ball in any humanly space possible. So he's

1082
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: gonna throw two or three to the other color jersey

1083
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: and there was a couple last week that weren't caught,

1084
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: so if those are caught down the road, that could

1085
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: be an issue. But man, they feel like a team

1086
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: that's just slowly starting to figure themselves out more and

1087
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: more each year.

1088
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you Clemson.

1089
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you get a quarterback that has the

1090
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: talent and ability that learns how to take care of

1091
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: the football. And you've heard me say it, I always

1092
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: feel like that turnover chromosome, like you can't rewire that DNA.

1093
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 4: It's either in you or it's not, but you can

1094
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: limit it. And if he learns to limit it with

1095
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 4: some pretty good skill and a front seven that can

1096
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 4: still take over a game, that's one that I could

1097
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 4: see sort of getting into a situation. And I'll give

1098
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: you Boise too, because I think that they can play

1099
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 4: a different style football.

1100
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1101
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 4: I don't think the defense is athletic enough to maybe

1102
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: beat a lot of these teams for talking about but

1103
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: if you're talking about making a run, I do think

1104
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: Boise might be able to be that team.

1105
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: It's weird that you said, because there's.

1106
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 4: A god keep my I can make a case for

1107
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: iwa stayed a little bit. But defense athleticism speed really

1108
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: worried about it. I feel like Texas A and M,

1109
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: if you get the Missouri Connor Wigman, they can beat

1110
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 4: anybody in America. Yeah, that d line could take over

1111
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: a game.

1112
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that game this weekend. I'm glad they play each

1113
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: other LSU and A and M. I asked Tuesday night,

1114
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: and it's been forty eight some odd hours. I still

1115
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: can't answer this question. Do I trust Connor Wigman because

1116
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 2: I've watched him throw multiple interceptions in several games through

1117
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: what he threw I think two picks and probably four

1118
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: more interceptable balls against Mississippi State last week, so I

1119
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: leave I'm fresh off watching him just just carve up

1120
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: Missouri and I want to believe. And they won the

1121
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: game last week. But if I just copy paste that performance,

1122
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: they're not winning enough of them. I'll tell you another

1123
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: one before we move on here. I'm gonna call Miami

1124
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: a wildcard team, and people may scoff at that because

1125
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: they're already ranked high. But I don't think the defensive

1126
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: effort they're given right now is going to wash in

1127
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: the playoffs, like against the Georgia or against Phill and Blank,

1128
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: whoever you think to play. You remember twenty nineteen and

1129
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three LSU, respectively. So twenty nineteen LSU they

1130
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: start the season and then it starts to grow to

1131
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: a boil and Joe Burrow becomes what he is and

1132
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: Clyde Edwards, Hilaire and all those receivers. But they weren't

1133
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: great defensively at the beginning of the year, and they

1134
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: never in great statistically. But what they did become is

1135
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: very opportunistic. They became a really good situational team, really

1136
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: good red zone team, and they ended up becoming one

1137
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 2: of the best teams of all time. Twenty twenty three

1138
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: LSU also has a Heisman contender that ends up winning

1139
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: the Heisman at quarterback. But they are so off the

1140
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: cliff horrific defensively that it basically wastes that season. And

1141
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: so I think about Miami right now, and they're a wildcard.

1142
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to become twenty nineteen LSU to go

1143
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: down the road of nineteen LSU. They're going to go

1144
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: down one of those two divergent paths, and I can't

1145
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: figure out which one it's going to be.

1146
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: Right now, here's what you need.

1147
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: You need really good veteran college football players at certain spots,

1148
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 4: and twenty nineteen is a perfect example of that. Now,

1149
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: Patrick Queen was big time talent, but Jacobe Stevens great

1150
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: college football player who played like every position in the secondary.

1151
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 4: Neil Ferrell junior, Wasshard Lawrence both veteran d tackles who

1152
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 4: had great seasons that year. Like Brandon Fojoko played really

1153
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: well for them that year. They had guys like Glenn

1154
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 4: Logan that helped him out. And we had to go

1155
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: back and look up these names because I had forgotten

1156
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 4: about him.

1157
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: Did they have it?

1158
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: Derek Stingley Junior, Yeah, but you know you had some

1159
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: top been talent. Calebon Cha Song turned into a legit

1160
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: edge guy on that team. But you got to have

1161
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 4: that solid foundation. And I think LSU has a couple

1162
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 4: of those guys defensively right now. But two you like,

1163
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 4: I think about matchups, and I know you're and Iowa

1164
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 4: State nerd, but I've kind of taken a dive into

1165
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 4: him here in the last couple of weeks to see

1166
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 4: a little bit more about I feel like I'm watching

1167
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 4: one of these brock Party Iowa State teams like two

1168
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 4: and three tight ends the run scheme is incredible with

1169
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 4: fullbacks and tight ends moving around. They're blocking back on people.

1170
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: Different type gap scheme runs efficient at quarterback. They have

1171
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 4: a couple backs that have real juice. Like I said,

1172
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: athleticism defensively, I would be concerned about, but they could.

1173
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: I know they could slow the game down against a

1174
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 4: lot of people and be a problem with how they

1175
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: would move the ball on offense. I think what you're

1176
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 4: saying about Miami, and I'm with you. Miami to me

1177
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: is an a one team.

1178
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 3: That's what they are.

1179
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: Like if you want to talk about the behind the back,

1180
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 4: three sixty dunks and like three pointers from half court,

1181
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 4: they will allow you from.

1182
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 3: Start to finish.

1183
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 4: Speed, athleticism, side arm, angle throws, catches all of that,

1184
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: like guys rushing off the edge. I don't know if

1185
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 4: it's as much effort in my opinion, it's just there's

1186
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: a lot of.

1187
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: It that looks sloppy.

1188
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 4: And for a team that's sitting there at seven to zero,

1189
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: ranked in the top five most of the year, how

1190
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 4: could you stay They're sloppy, but they're so athletic so

1191
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: fast that they just they kind of get away. And

1192
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: they got a quarterback that can just he's like hot

1193
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 4: sauce running point. I mean, he can just make it happen.

1194
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 4: So if they continue to find ways to sort of

1195
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 4: clean it up a little bit, Miami's gonna be hell

1196
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: on wheels come playoff time.

1197
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

1198
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: I was actually I was listening to you earlier this week.

1199
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: You were talking to Trent Dilfer. But this is a

1200
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: conversation that's been going on since the beginning of time penalties.

1201
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 2: Teams that suffer chronic penalties every week, it's like nine

1202
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: for ninety six yards, eleven for one hundred and ten yards,

1203
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: and every time a coach steps to the podium, it's well,

1204
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: we got to clean it up. Well, we got to

1205
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: work on it. We emphasize it in practice. And I've

1206
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: started to develop a theory here. I'm not going to

1207
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: say that heavily penalized teams is a totally randomized stat

1208
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: but it's starting to feel like turnovers to me. It's

1209
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: starting to feel like the kind of thing where any

1210
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: given year you may just be on the bad side

1211
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: of it, or any given year you may have a

1212
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: collection of guys that, for whatever reason, is thirty eight

1213
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: percent more predisposed to mental errors or physical errors, and

1214
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 2: you emphasize it the same way you always have. You

1215
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: use the same blueprint you did in twenty eighteen or

1216
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, good year and you're not having a

1217
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: good year and you're doing everything you know to do.

1218
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: And I know you talk to coaches about this all

1219
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: the time. There is no blueprint out there, no one knows,

1220
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: no one has any concept of an idea about there's

1221
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: no consultant in other words that you bring in and

1222
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: he just tells you, here's how you eliminate penalties. Because

1223
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: if that existed, no one would be penalized.

1224
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 3: I mean that guy would be rich.

1225
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 4: By the way, can you imagine if Steve Shaw started

1226
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: a flag disposal consulting firm and he comes walking in there,

1227
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: all right, guys, here's how you get rid of your

1228
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: holding penalties. It's amazing because we sit down with these

1229
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: coaches on Fridays and over the years we've had plenty

1230
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 4: that are just brutalized weekly by penalties. And it's you

1231
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: stole words out of my mouth. And we talked about

1232
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 4: this earlier, the coaches. It's always, well, we address it,

1233
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: we emphasize it. If you heard one thing that was

1234
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 4: cool is if you heard. If you missed the interview

1235
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: with us on macroy and Cubic in the morning, McElroy said,

1236
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: I view it the same way as turnovers. The more

1237
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: you start talking about it, the more you start turning

1238
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: the ball over penalties. The more you start talking about it,

1239
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 4: the more penalties guys have. I do think style of

1240
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 4: team plays into that, Like Tennessee's gonna get some because

1241
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: of pace of play. Georgia a perfect example. Maybe not

1242
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 4: every week, but when you over emphasize your grit, your toughness,

1243
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 4: your physicality for one game, you're gonna get some of

1244
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 4: the stuff that they got last year.

1245
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 2: But now there's such a difference in the toughness, personal

1246
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: foul go a little bit past the point of no

1247
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: return stuff versus procedural stuff. Five fall starts per game, I.

1248
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, that came.

1249
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: How to stop that?

1250
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: That kind of.

1251
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: Stuff is coaching, and I think you can simplify snap count.

1252
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: I think you can simplify how you get if you

1253
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 4: if you huddle, how you get out of the huddle.

1254
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: Uh So, maybe it's gonna I think it costed Alabama

1255
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: in the Tennessee game. First off, I think that crowd

1256
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 4: was a big problem for the operation of the Alabama offense.

1257
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: I saw multiple snaps where left guard is coming off

1258
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: the ball first, or left guard left tackle first, or

1259
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: the two tackles are off, but the guards aren't coming

1260
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: off like it was just it was not where it

1261
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 4: needed to be as far as guys on the same page.

1262
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 4: But then two, you know you're giving those guys if

1263
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 4: you have because I thought Brailsford missed an opportunity to

1264
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 4: change up. I can't say snapcount because it's silent, but

1265
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: the way I did it a long time ago, I

1266
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 4: looked at my legs.

1267
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: Quarterback lifted his leg, you came up, you snapped the ball.

1268
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 4: It was they almost mirrored each other every time he

1269
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 4: did it in that game. Well, hell, James Pearcey's two

1270
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 4: or three of those. He knows when to go based

1271
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: on when the head comes up, which is why guys

1272
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 4: started letting the guard look and then tap the center

1273
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 4: so he could see everything in starting. But I would

1274
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: tell my guys like, hey man, you gotta hold your

1275
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: water here. I was gonna hold the snap for a while,

1276
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: so I took my head up and I would say

1277
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 4: I said go when I snapped the ball, so I'd

1278
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 4: be like O and I would bob my head on

1279
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 4: purpose trying to get him to jump.

1280
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

1281
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: But then also I would tell as I be ready

1282
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: to go, be ready to go, it's gonna be quick,

1283
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 4: and I'd look down real slow and I'd come up

1284
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: slow and bam, I'd snapped the ball right there. You've

1285
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 4: got to vary that a little bit. But I think

1286
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: when you try to vary it, that's when you know,

1287
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 4: things kind of get out of whack. So you could

1288
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 4: simplify it with getting to the line of scrimmage earlier,

1289
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 4: not being as much of a hurry. Maybe don't have

1290
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: as many checks at the line of scrimmage like Sart

1291
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: calls them, you know, calling runs when I had them

1292
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: for the Mississippi State game. I asked him, alright, eight

1293
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 4: he was on the field, anything different for arts last minute?

1294
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 4: He goes, The only thing is we're gonna have a

1295
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Speaker 4: lot of calling runs early.

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Speaker 3: So you come in.

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Speaker 4: And you know you called, you know, twenty eight toss

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Speaker 4: it's not green or gold, which way or the other,

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Speaker 4: or maybe get to this or you got an RP

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Speaker 4: off that or throw the uncovered here you run twenty

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Speaker 4: eight tossy Because there's no can fusing.

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Speaker 3: There's no nothing.

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Speaker 4: But I agree with you, Like the one thing about

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Speaker 4: the Georgia deal is like guys coming in with their

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Speaker 4: heads down like that can be corrected. That needs to

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Speaker 4: be corrected. But yeah, the operational stuff, I just think

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Speaker 4: it's focus. I think it's understanding repetition and a lot

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Speaker 4: of those guys had not been to Neland I know

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Speaker 4: I keep leading on that game, but Brailsford don't know

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Speaker 4: how loud it was going to be. That coaching staff

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Speaker 4: didn't have an exact feel for what that was going

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Speaker 4: to be like. So I would just say, simplify things.

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Speaker 4: You simplify your process as much as possible is the

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Speaker 4: only way to clean them up.

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Speaker 3: From that perspective.

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Speaker 1: Huge show. How are we doing on YouTube? Where are

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Speaker 1: we at right now? We have fifteen k yet?

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Speaker 4: Oh god, no, I think we're only at like closing

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Speaker 4: in on the thirteen thousand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we did have a nice bounce back video this week,

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Speaker 4: so I appreciate you for that, not that you had

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Speaker 4: anything to do with it. I think it was probably

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Speaker 4: the content. But yeah, we're up. We're up a smidge.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're not celebrating three hundred thousand throwing that

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Speaker 4: in people's face.

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Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, I can't feel.

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Speaker 2: I can't help but feel twelve six So so fifteen kid,

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Speaker 2: the drive for fifteen k continuous people at Cube show

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Speaker 2: a good quality, wholesome meat on the bone, free college

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Speaker 2: football talk.

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Speaker 1: It's right here on the YouTube's for you.

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Speaker 3: Cube Show have even stopped cussing.

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Speaker 1: Good good.

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Speaker 2: There was a little there was a little too much

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Speaker 2: of a rigidity to the to the channel. And now

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Speaker 2: it's fit for all ages.

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Speaker 4: Good because it's trying to be Georgia for a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'm not Georgia of podcasting. That that's not true. Hey,

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Speaker 4: before we go, I did want to say I just

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Speaker 4: saw the folks and I hate this. I was really

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Speaker 4: proud of you last night. It was really cool to

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Speaker 4: see you in that spot at the desk there at

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Speaker 4: CBS with all the big boys the suit Fuck we

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Speaker 4: got some work to do there. Uh it felt like

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Speaker 4: a late night target run. I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Uh, Miss Savannah just kind of like popped in

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Speaker 4: and picked something up like we didn't don't really care

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Speaker 4: about how it fits.

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Speaker 3: Just hey, well this worked, sure, throwing the bag.

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Speaker 2: Those were the exact words those were exact. You got

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Speaker 2: the transcript from the visit, so yeah, appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: But it was awesome seeing you man. Seriously, I'm proud

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Speaker 3: of you. That was really cool.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a picture this weekend.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, here we hold you.

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Speaker 2: But Josh Fate, we appreciate you. Guys, make sure you

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Speaker 2: are subscribed to his channel and this channel. We will

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Speaker 2: be let's see in Vegas tomorrow for UNLB Boise State.

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Speaker 2: We'll be in Vandy along with our boy here Saturday

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Speaker 2: for Texas Vanderbilt. So make sure at lea kick joshure

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Speaker 5: Until then, take care, God bless.

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