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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, May twenty fourth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where we're mocking

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Speaker 2: the mocks. It's me and your man, MG Marcus Brand

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Speaker 2: joined by Michael F. Floria. We got a couple of

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Speaker 2: specialists cause we're in studio. Shout out to Josh and Susan.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for hanging out with us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you all listening as well. Uh Floria, we

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Speaker 2: got we got business to attend to in this one today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to talk about con Air.

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Speaker 2: We gotta talk about con Air. We are going to

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Speaker 2: continue the film festival. We are talking con Air today,

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Speaker 2: but also primarily we're doing a mock draft. So we

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Speaker 2: got a bunch of our friends from around the industry.

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Speaker 2: Some you may know, some you may not. Are Pal

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Speaker 2: Lakwan Jones, that real deal Fantasy is in Floria and

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Speaker 2: I are in Who else do we have? We have

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Speaker 2: Joel Smith, Joel Smith, our researcher extraordinaiy and just from

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Speaker 2: across the Internet that are gonna be jumping in. So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna go through this mock We'll see how much

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Speaker 2: of it we get through. I don't necessarily want this

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Speaker 2: thing to drag out, because we do have to talk

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Speaker 2: about Nicholas Cage flying in a plane full convicts, the

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Speaker 2: important stuff across the desert. It's the important things, and

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Speaker 2: we have to get through here in this one. But

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Speaker 2: we are gonna do a mock draft. It is a

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Speaker 2: twelve team mock halfpoint PPR one quarterback sixty second timer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see if we can get through all fifteen

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Speaker 2: rounds of this one, and we will kind of break

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Speaker 2: things down as we go along. This will be the

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Speaker 2: first of I think a few mocks that we do,

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Speaker 2: I'd imagine should probably vary our formats as well. But

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Speaker 2: I figured this is just a general one quarterback redraft league, which.

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Speaker 3: Is what most people play.

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Speaker 2: Is what most people play. I know when I put

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Speaker 2: this out, I jokingly got back some responses like, you know,

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Speaker 2: calling me old or calling me basic, which that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with being.

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Speaker 3: It's not a dynasty superflexed premium with four flexes.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing exactly exactly? I get it. Look, lad,

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Speaker 2: play whatever makes you happy, whatever floats your boat. I

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Speaker 2: think the majority of people nowadays are still sort of

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Speaker 2: playing simple one quarterback leagues either full point or half

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Speaker 2: point PPR. So that's what we're doing for this draft.

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Speaker 2: Maybe for another mock draft we'll do something completely different.

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Speaker 2: So just for frame of reference, I am in the

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Speaker 2: third slot. Florio's in the eleventh spot. We will try

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Speaker 2: and update these picks as we go along, but we've

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Speaker 2: got plenty of other things to talk about as well.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to hit the start draft button and

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Speaker 2: there we go. We are off and running with the

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick, and it's on the board and

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Speaker 2: it's Justin Jefferson, which I feel like is gonna be

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Speaker 2: kind of consistent this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I had originally thought this might be a year

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Speaker 3: where there's no consensus one where like it could be

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Speaker 3: Jefferson or McCaffrey or maybe Eckler or Kelsey. But it

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Speaker 3: the more drafts I'm doing, the more and more it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson's that's where I have him ranked too.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me just that's where I've got him

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Speaker 2: ranked as well. Now I'm curious though, at number two

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Speaker 2: still have Christian McCaffrey and Austin Eckler on the board,

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Speaker 2: You've got Jamar Chase off the board. I will tell

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Speaker 2: you that I've been in mox where I've taken Jamar

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Speaker 2: think the interesting part of this whole deal.

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Speaker 3: It's it's I always look at drafts is like, where

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Speaker 3: And two is clearly one of them, because like, and

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Speaker 3: what you're thinking, but like you could be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: if I get Chase, cool, if I get McCaffrey cool,

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Speaker 3: And you don't have to make that decision. Obviously you

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Speaker 2: Well, Christian McCaffrey goes at number two, so that puts

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Speaker 2: gonna tak Jamar Chase at number three right here, you know,

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Speaker 2: McCaffrey's gonna be fine. I think he's gonna be very good.

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Speaker 2: What concerns me is last year, when he came to

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Speaker 2: five percent of the snaps he was playing when he

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Speaker 2: is just as high. I think his potential output is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree with that one hundred percent. They

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Speaker 3: have so many weapons. And the thing is, like remember

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Speaker 3: Like that is still very much so on the lad table.

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Speaker 3: And I know Chase last year he didn't live up

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, is he could easily finish as the best

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Speaker 3: player in Fantasy this year, and it wouldn't surprise me

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Speaker 3: at all. But now that Austin Eckler is back with

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Speaker 3: gonna put Eckler as my RB one.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, it's weird. So I went outside the box.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, she update you on some of

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Speaker 2: the picks, So I went Jamar Chase at number three,

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Speaker 3: I can't complain.

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Speaker 2: I can't really hate it, but man, that's a you know,

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Speaker 2: our researcher, takes Bjeon Robinson at number six, and uh,

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Speaker 2: gonna go with Cooper Cup. Of course, the Rams fan

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Speaker 2: number nine. So we going We've gotten We've already gotten

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Speaker 3: I'm sad he went ahead of DeVante Adams. I like,

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Speaker 3: I have digs ahead of Adams, but in all drafts

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Speaker 3: Typically because Adams is the receiver that goes, they're not

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Speaker 3: you said you went outside the box to the box.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, I got I got described. I went outside

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Speaker 2: the box. And right now I put Jonathan Taylor as

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Speaker 2: there was I didn't really believe that Austin Deckler was

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Speaker 2: my thought and I'll let you kind of jump in.

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Speaker 2: But you know, then, McCaffrey, I told you about my

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Speaker 2: concerns with him. Jonathan Taylor. When he's healthy, we know

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Speaker 2: he is going to be the workhorse. He's gonna get

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Speaker 2: a ton of opportunity. And even with Anthony Richardson there

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Speaker 2: still think a healthy Jonathan Taylor gets a ton of work.

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Speaker 2: So I had him as my RB one. I may

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Speaker 3: He's my RB three, so I don't you're not going

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Speaker 3: I don't see why they would stop feeding him as

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Speaker 3: to me, like I've seen people have Tony Pollard as

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Speaker 3: but Bijon obviously many people have as their one Taylor Saquon.

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Speaker 3: So to me, I think this is one of those

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Speaker 3: good with any of those backs, even though I have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me catch everybody up on the draft. So

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Speaker 2: Bjeon goes number six, Cooper Cup at seven, Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 2: just the fourth running back off the board. You went

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams at eleven. I know you said you were

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Speaker 3: I almost immediately hated that pick because I was like,

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Speaker 3: I should have just Saquon. Luckily I got him in

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So Florio goes with DeVante Adams at eleven.

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Speaker 2: Aj Brown goes twelve, and then i'man Ross Saint Brown

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Speaker 2: Brown and Saint Brown go back to back. Then you

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Speaker 2: go with Saquon Barkley, so you still get Barkley near

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Speaker 2: the top of the second Derrick Henry follows him at

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Speaker 2: four first quarterback off the board. Josh Allen goes sort

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Speaker 2: of mid second round at two five, Brize Haul at

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Speaker 2: at two point eight. So that's pretty much cadda. We're

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Speaker 2: waiting for the ninth pick in the in the second

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about a moan ros Saint Brown now?

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Speaker 3: Because look, me and you have both liked him for

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Speaker 3: each of the two years, and we were last season

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Speaker 3: we were like, can we please stop with this?

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Speaker 2: Is he good? Is he good? Right now?

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Speaker 3: He went with the first pick in this second round,

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Speaker 3: and look he's deserving of it. But man, do I

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Speaker 3: have pause taking him that early?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm okay with it right because right now

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Speaker 2: that makes him what wide receiver? Wide receiver eight? I'm like,

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Speaker 2: am I counting that? Right? I think he's wide receiver

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Speaker 2: eight in this draft. Oh, I'm on the clock right now.

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Speaker 2: Let me go on.

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Speaker 3: I'll talk while you go to make your face like

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Speaker 3: over a Monra, I would have taken CD Lamb for sure,

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Speaker 3: even Garrett Wilson. I have a Monroe Mores like a

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Speaker 3: So right now, Marcus has Jamar Chase and DeVonta Smith

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Speaker 2: Tight end if you want, which is what I'm exactly

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Speaker 3: And look, obviously Kelsey's the tight end one, but a

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Speaker 3: I think he should be, Like, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: Jamar Cha, DeVonta Smith, and Mark Andrews are my top

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Speaker 2: guys like Kenneth Walker, after Najie Harris, because everybody loved

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Speaker 2: a free agent. I know there's talk that maybe he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just said I have him as a top

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Speaker 2: And then Cede Lamb, who's you know, probably gonna get

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Speaker 3: He's played at an extremely high level. So I'm willing

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Speaker 2: My heart is broken. I your stacks, all of them

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Speaker 2: I have not yet taken a running back, and so

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Speaker 3: I think this is this is the trend now right now,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a trend because people have realized the

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Speaker 2: with JK. Dobbins at the five to one day, Dalvin Cook,

430
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 2: as Floria mentioned, at the five two. I took Terry

431
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: McLaurin at the five to three pick, which DeAndre Hopkins

432
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: goes right after him at five to four, Drake London.

433
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: And I'll say I was debating between McLaurin and Drake London.

434
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: I went McLaurin instead. Uh, And then you got DJ

435
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: Moore now of the Chicago Bears, at the five six,

436
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 2: Mike Damian Pierce at five seven, Mike Evans at five eight,

437
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders goes at five to nine. Wanted him, and

438
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 2: so now we got Aaron back on the board. Who

439
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: I should mention Aaron took George Kittle as a forty

440
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 2: nine er fan. I want to say that he's being

441
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: kind of homerssh but George Kittle in the fourth round

442
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: not a bad play pick. He also gets his first

443
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: wide receiver at Mike with Mike Williams at the five ten,

444
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: So that puts Florio on the clock at five eleven

445
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: and just sort of shuffling through some of the top

446
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: positions as uh up, Florial gets his stack with Calvin

447
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: Ridley and Trevor Lawrence. He comes back around and gets

448
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence there, so uh, not a bad stack to me.

449
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: Lawrence is the fall off at quarterback. Like I think,

450
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: I don't think he's as good, let's say, as like

451
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 3: Fields and Lamar and those guys, but I think he's

452
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 3: the last one that I feel real And then we

453
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: get to like the Deshaun Dak territory.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm like, looking at the top quarterbacks left

455
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: on the board. You got Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, tuah

456
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: still there, Russell Wilson, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins. Uh, those

457
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: guys are all still on the board at quarterback after

458
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 2: Lawrence Jerry Judy finishes out the fifth round and Kyle

459
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: Pitts starts the sixth round, so it's it's back to

460
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 2: Florio there. Yeah, we got a tight end run. So

461
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: Darren Waller, now who I know that you are? You

462
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: are Team Waller, So you get your guy at six.

463
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: I think that's that's pretty good.

464
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 3: It was gonna be him and Pitts for me here

465
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 3: and and Pitts went the pick before me, which last

466
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: year me would have been broken hearted. This year me,

467
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, could be terrible, could be a good thing,

468
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: who knows?

469
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: Could be. I think Darren Waller is gonna be just fine.

470
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean he is. I think we've said it on

471
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: this show. He is the only Giants pass catcher that

472
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: I really would try to target, just because everybody else,

473
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: I mean it's like a collection of slot receivers basically

474
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: that that doesn't really seem to excite me a whole lot,

475
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: So trythy where else.

476
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: Going back to it real quick though, I love your

477
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: Terry McLaurin pick. I think Terry is so undervalued every year,

478
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: Like I know, the last couple of years he's been

479
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: more of a wide receiver two wish and inconsistent. But

480
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: that's all on the quarterback play. And I think this

481
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 3: year it could be better because if Sam hal isn't

482
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: the answer, they have Brissette, who we know can elevate,

483
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: who elevated Amari Cooper a year ago. So I don't know.

484
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: I feel like Terry fifth round behind some of the

485
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Speaker 3: receivers that he goes. I think it's a really good pick.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm happy with it. I mean, he's my

487
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: third wife receiver I'm rolling out there with with Chase

488
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 2: Smith and Terry McLaurin. I feel pretty good about that,

489
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm cool with it. Where Else, I'm trying

490
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 2: to think of what. So DeAndre Hopkins at the five

491
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: to four seems interesting just because Kyler's gonna be out

492
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: for a while. We've seen Colt McCoy fifth round for

493
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: d hop I mean, I guess you're sort of banking

494
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: that he's going to be the target monster there, but

495
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: Markus Brown's still there. It kind of scares me. A

496
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: little bit.

497
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: I think that this offense while Kyler Murray Kyler Murray

498
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 3: is out, might be the worst in the league. And

499
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 3: uh and that is count Like I've seen a lot

500
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: of people say, like, well, Kyler could come back sooner

501
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 3: than anticipated, could he? He tours ACL later in the season.

502
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: I believe it was in December mid December he tours ACL.

503
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: So now we're talking about him probably not being ready

504
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: to around the middle of the season. And then let's

505
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: not forget the Cardinals have their pick and the Texans

506
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: pick for the next season, so they could be looking

507
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: at it like, hey, we could either get Hale Williams

508
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: or we could trade and get a ton of capital

509
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 3: for him or for a top pick. So like, if

510
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: they start off one in five or something like that,

511
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 3: what incentive do they have one to bring back Kyler?

512
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 3: And then two. We hear it all the time that

513
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: athletes kind of need to build it up mentally and

514
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: physically after a severe injury like that. I think if

515
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: you're taking d Hop there, you're banking on him getting traded.

516
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if he saw Marcus he went on

517
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: the and I'm trying to fill a buster right now

518
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: to give you some times. He went on the im

519
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: Athlete podcast this week and he was talking about other

520
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that he would like to play. Of course Josh

521
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 3: Allen being number one. Oh, we like he de Hop

522
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 3: talks up the Bills any chance he gets. But then

523
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: he said, like Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and we know

524
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 3: the Chiefs could use receivers, Like, there's a lot of

525
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: quarterbacks out there that he's talking up that he wants

526
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: to play with. I still am of the mindset that

527
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: d Hop is not going to be in Arizona this year,

528
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: whether he gets traded, whether they just kind of bite

529
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: the bullet and cut him and give him what he wants.

530
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be there, and I think he's

531
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: going to get his wish. But all that being said,

532
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: I still wouldn't take him in the.

533
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: Fifth round as around it seems it seems a little

534
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: bit spicy right now. Okay, so I'm back on.

535
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 3: The Marcus is up. Last pick for Marcus was Brandon

536
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: Ayuk as his wide receiver four, which as a four,

537
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 3: Ayuk is exactly what you want because he has such

538
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: a high ceiling. Every single week could be a little inconsistent,

539
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: but you don't care about that when he's your four

540
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 3: and your second flex in this league. And then David Montgomery,

541
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: so you get your RB two there, Yeah, don't.

542
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: I don't love it. I mean, I feel like we

543
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 2: have very much hit a dead zone. A lit'tle got

544
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 2: a lot of running backs coming off the board here.

545
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: I feel like we've kind of hit a dead spot here.

546
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: So I mean my two running backs, Aaron Jones David Montgomery.

547
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 2: I'm sort of banking on Montgomery having that touchdown upside

548
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: that if he comes in and he sort of plays

549
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 2: that same role that Jamal Williams did last year where

550
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: he gets the ball down near the goal line and

551
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: he's that hammer, that makes me feel I'll feel pretty

552
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: good about it. Let me just catch everybody up. After

553
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 2: Florio took Darren Waller at the six to two, Dak

554
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: Prescott goes at six three, Javonte Williams at six four,

555
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: and that's an interesting kind of conversation maybe to happen

556
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: a little bit. But Javonte Williams at sixty four, Cam

557
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: Akers at six five. Did we get a string of

558
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: wide receivers Christian Kirk with a sixth pick, Deontay Johnson

559
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: with the seventh, Christian Watson with the eighth Rashad White

560
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: goes at six ' nine. As Floria mentioned, I took

561
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk at the six ten, Tyler Lockett. Tyler Lockett

562
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: just went off the board. Well now you well we'll

563
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: catch up here. Brandon get six ten, Jackson Smith in

564
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: Jigbu goes at six eleven, James Connor at six twelve. Uh,

565
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: coming back around. Dallas Goddard will start the seventh round,

566
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: followed by Chris Godwin and then David Montgomery. As mentioned,

567
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: I took at seven three, George Pickens at seven four,

568
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett at seven five. I'll tell you what, I'd

569
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: rather have Tyler Lockett than George Pickens all day.

570
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I know everyone loves the shiny new toy.

571
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: I will take Lockett at seven point five over Jackson Smith,

572
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 3: Jibba at six eleven, and DK Metcalf at three to nine.

573
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: I don't think enough people realize Tyler Lockett outscored DK

574
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: Metcalf last year on less volume, and people are like,

575
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: the volume's gonna get spread out and Tyler Lockett doesn't

576
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: earn a lot of targets. I'm like, okay, if we're

577
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 3: now taking the volume and we're spreading it three ways.

578
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you rather have the guy who is the most

579
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: efficient on a per route, per target, per reception basis,

580
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 3: because that's what Tyler Lockett is.

581
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: I mean, I think for me, when you look at

582
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: those two guys, the gap between them, I think in

583
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: scoring potential doesn't match the gap between them and ADP.

584
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: I think they should be a lot. I think DK

585
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: is gonna be good. I think Tyler Lockett's gonna be good.

586
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: The fact that there's a almost a complete four round

587
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: gap between them doesn't make sense to me.

588
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: If you covered up all of the production and stuff

589
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: and you just flipped like, if Tyler Lockett looked like

590
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: DK Metcalf, he'd be going in the third round, That's

591
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: all it is. I think it's the aesthetics, like DK

592
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: Metcalf looks the part. He makes these amazing catches, which

593
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: is something that is I've learned with George Pickens, because

594
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: last year watching George Pickens, I was like, this kid

595
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: can ball like and then you dive into the numbers

596
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: and it's like, no, he looks great when you watch

597
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: and play, but the numbers are all very misleading. So

598
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: I think DK. Look, DK is obviously very very good,

599
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: but sometimes I think it's his style of play leads

600
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: us to elevate him further in fantasy than he should be.

601
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: I think it's what it is. I mean, we see

602
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: the highlight reel catches, you know, like the things he

603
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: does that look amazing. But you're right, when you dig

604
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: down a little bit further, you realize that maybe it's

605
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: not all it's cracked up to be. I know, you know,

606
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: friend of the show and wide receiver savant Matt Harmon

607
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: has broken him down reception perception, which side note, if

608
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: you don't, if you don't subscribe, if you are deep

609
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: in this and you're not subscribing to to RP, you're

610
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: sort of losing out.

611
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: Have you spoke, Yes, you are. It's such a great tool.

612
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: But have you spoke to him about the Seahawks receivers yet?

613
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: Not specifically. But I do know. Look, I know that

614
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 2: he's always loved Tyler Lockett. You know it's hard to

615
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: not love DK. Metcalf. I know you're on the clock

616
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: right now. You know. I think he's he's thinks some

617
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: good things about Jackson Smith and Jake, But I know

618
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: that that Harmon truly believes that we're going to see

619
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: all three of those guys be productive this year. He

620
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: really believes that the way the Seahawks have gone about

621
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: this off season, really going all in on Geno Smith

622
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: taking Jasn where they did in the draft, he thinks

623
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: we're going to see a lot less twelve personnel out

624
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: of Seattle than we have in the past. We're gonna

625
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: see a lot more eleven personnel. That means we're gonna

626
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 2: see JSN on the field, which means he does have

627
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: the opportunity to go out and be productive. So I

628
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: know that that's been the argument from a lot of

629
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: people that maybe you stay away from JSN because can

630
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: he get on the field consistently, And I know Harmon

631
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: thinks that that's going to be true, that it's actually

632
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: going to happen there and see where's left off. So

633
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: I had Dave Montgomery at seven three, Pickings at four,

634
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: Locket at five, Evan Ingram goes at seven six, Jordan

635
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: Addison uh is at seven seven. Is he the first No,

636
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: he's not the first rookie receiver. We have JSN off

637
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: the board. Uh. Gabe Davis goes at seven eight. Michael Pittman.

638
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: Michael Pittman falls all the way to seven to nine.

639
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: A little bit surprising right there. Michael Thomas is at

640
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: seven ten. Florio takes Isaiah Pacheco at seven eleven. Alvin

641
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Kamara goes at the seven dot twelve.

642
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: I have two heart strings pulling me right now. Okay,

643
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: I kind of I didn't want to take Pachecko. The

644
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: internet thinks I hate Pachecko, but he felt like the

645
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: best player there. But now there's two different players tugging

646
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: at my heart strings. And there's one that I think

647
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: is the better fit for my current team. But then

648
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: the other one is just my my love.

649
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go with You're gonna take the love,

650
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: and it's gonna it's gonna I know what you're gonna do,

651
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: and it's gonna break my heart. We're going on to

652
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: do it.

653
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: Oh wait, maybe we're thinking.

654
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I knew I was hoping James Cook

655
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: would fall to me. Uh so he So Camara goes

656
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: into the twelfth, Marquis Brown goes top of the or

657
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: into the seventh for Camara, top of the eighth for

658
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Marquise Brown, and then Florida you go with James Cook,

659
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: I was I didn't really think he followed me, but

660
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: I was sort of hoping maybe he'd fall to me.

661
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: He's the one that I think fits my team better

662
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: because I'm like Pacheco as an RB two is solid,

663
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: but like, I don't know, I'll take me up like

664
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: he's the safe guy there and then I take the

665
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: upside shot with James Cook. I like doing that a lot,

666
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: like if I wait on RB two, take a safe

667
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: one and then an upside one. But my heart play

668
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: he's still available. I mean, I'll name drop because it's

669
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 3: only me and you and here Kadarius Tony is still

670
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: on the board, and yeah, I know that was hard

671
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: for me to pass up.

672
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I don't know if he's gonna

673
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: make it back to you at the ninth probably not.

674
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: Maybe if he does, then I'm certain you're gonna.

675
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: It will be three seconds out.

676
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm having the picking snatch him up if that

677
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: is the case. What was I I mentioned to Jamontain

678
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: Williams at six ' four. Uh, we love Javonte. I

679
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: just feel like there's no clear indication of when he's

680
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: going to be ready because this wasn't just a torn

681
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: acl This is a major, nasty, nasty knee injury. I

682
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: know Sean Payton has been optimistic about what what he

683
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: could be or or when he could be back, But

684
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: are you would you be comfortable taking him there the

685
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: fourth pick of the sixth round.

686
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: That's with that build, Yes, because the person who took

687
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: him has Digs Wilson, DK Metcalf, Hockinson and Miles Sanders,

688
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: who I think Miles Sanders is underrated. I think he's

689
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: gonna get a ton of work this year. So as

690
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: like an upside RB two when you already feel really

691
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: good about your build, I I could see going there

692
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: if he was my RB one, Like let's say I

693
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 3: went zero RB then No, it's to me he is

694
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: very much so one of those players that it depends on, uh,

695
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 3: the team that you have already drafted and Marcus, you

696
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: were on the clock, but while on Javonte Williams, not

697
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: only everything you said like it being a severe injury,

698
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: we're not sure when exactly he's going to to be there.

699
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: They also brought in Samaj p Ryan to be like

700
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: the the anchor early on. I would say Javonte has

701
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: a lot of upside, but we know running backs kind

702
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: of struggle their first year back off of a torny

703
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: acl Speaking of running backs, who could get a lot

704
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: of work? You took Jamal Williams.

705
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: Who could? I didn't.

706
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: Oh, you took Jamison.

707
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: Sorry. I was like, wait what I saw a.

708
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: Lion Jersey and I just but these two water receivers

709
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: that just went back to back, those were If it

710
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: wasn't Tony that fell to me, I was hoping it

711
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: was Jamison Williams.

712
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: So uh yeah. So after let's see, after James Cook,

713
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm about to be back on the well, actually I

714
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: got some time. So after James Cook, Zach sharbonegos Quinton Johnston.

715
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: So a couple of rookies back to back Juju Smith Schuster.

716
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: U h see, I know what I'm going to do.

717
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 3: You are one of three teams currently that does not

718
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: have a quarterback.

719
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's about to be two teams have a quarterback.

720
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna take the shot and I'll explain in

721
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: just as such a good value, I'm gonna I'm gonna

722
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: explain just a bit. So after James Cook, Zach Sharboney,

723
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: goes Quentin Johnston, Juju Smith Schuster is the fifth pick

724
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: of the eighth round. Dalton Schultz goes at the eight six,

725
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 2: Alexander Madison at eight seven, followed by Brian Robinson, Traylon Burks.

726
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: I took Jamison Williams there at the eight ten. I mean,

727
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: he is my fifth wide receiver. I can afford to

728
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: wait on him for a few weeks for his suspension.

729
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony goes at the eight eleven, so there goes

730
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: Florio shot at getting his guy. Brandon Cooks goes at

731
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: the eight twelve, so we go back to the top

732
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: of the ninth round now aj Dillon followed by Pat Fryarmouth.

733
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: Third pick of the ninth round, I went and I

734
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: took Deshaun Watson. It really is just kind of a

735
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: believing he can kind of get back to where he was,

736
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: and even if he's not the top three guy he

737
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: was in Houston, I'm sort of banking on him being

738
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: better than he was last year in Cleveland. I will

739
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: also tell you, I'll let you in on this, since

740
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: it's just you and I sitting in the room, I'm

741
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: probably going to draft another quarterback, which.

742
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: Is which I was gonna say. If you wait on

743
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson, then you could still pair him with another

744
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 3: quarterback that you feel good about, like I'll name it's

745
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: just me and you. And here like two is still

746
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: on the board, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, Gino Smith,

747
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: like these are all guys that I wouldn't love as

748
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: my QB one, but as a safety blanket QB two

749
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: I love. And then Jamison Williams, I love his talent.

750
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: I think those last two picks, Marcus are like league

751
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: winning type picks for you because you can back them

752
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: both up. They're not starters, but if Watson, they don't

753
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: have to be your starters. I mean, but if Watson

754
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: and Williams hit on their upside, your team's gonna run

755
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: away with this.

756
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: That's sort of cut of what I'm hoping, right. It's

757
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: like I'm able to get these guys at values and

758
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: so I can sort of add them to the roster

759
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: and have them come in a little bit later in

760
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: the year. See, Florida is about to be back on

761
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: the clock, So let's let's kind of catch things up

762
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: on where we are with the picks. Here. After I

763
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: take Watson at the nine to three, Cole Kamet comes

764
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: off the board at nine to four, Jahan Dotson at

765
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: nine to five. Let's see who do we have. Anthony

766
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 2: Richardson comes off the board at the nine to six,

767
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton at nine seven, Antonio Gibson at nine eight

768
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: to a tongue of Ioloa finally off the board at

769
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: the nine to nine, followed by Rashad Penny at nine

770
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: to ten. So Florio is back on the board. Taking

771
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: a look at some of the quarterbacks that are still

772
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: left now. I think at this point I believe everyone

773
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: has a quarterback. Yes, everybody has at least one quarterback

774
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: so far. But some of the guys still out there.

775
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is still there, Daniel Jones, Kirk Cousins, Kyler Murray,

776
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers still there, bryce young Geno Smith. These are

777
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: the guys still hanging around on the board right now.

778
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: Receivers now are bad the receivers.

779
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: Let's let's look at the receivers left out there. So,

780
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean, your your top receivers, Zay Flowers, Darnielle Mooney,

781
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, Alan Lazard, Jacobe Meyers, Jay Adam Feeland, Jalen Hyatt,

782
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: uh these are your top receivers sort of hanging around

783
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: it is. It is thinned out significantly. Your top running

784
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: backs out there, Tyler Aljier, Jamal Williams, Zeke Khalil Herbert,

785
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: Elijah Mitchell, Leonard Fournette, Damian Harris, Kareem Hunt, the von

786
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: h Chain, Zach Evans. These are some of the top

787
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: running backs that are still hanging out on the board

788
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: at this point. Right now you're about to be back

789
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: on but I want to, you know, ask you about

790
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: your your last couple of picks when when you make them,

791
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 2: do not like this last pick that made have bobas

792
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: then we will talk about it. Tua Tongue Iilo is

793
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: the nine to nine Rashad penny at nine ten. We

794
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: will leave Florio's nine to eleven pick. This is a

795
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: secret till we as we talk about it. Jamal Williams

796
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: is off the board the final pick of the ninth round,

797
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: waiting for the first pick of the tenth round. This

798
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 2: thing is moving along the lift. Shall say, we still

799
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: got about five rounds left to go. But I'm looking

800
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: back at the first round one, two, three, four, five, six,

801
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: seven wide receivers and a tight end out of the

802
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: first twelve picks, and I get the distinct feeling that

803
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 2: is going to be a common situation across a lot

804
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: of drafts, I think, especially across a lot of really

805
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: hyper competitive leagues. I just don't think we're going to

806
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: see the same number of running backs coming off the board.

807
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: Early round two. You saw a few more too, three, four, five,

808
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: six running backs coming off the board in the second round.

809
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: All right, Oh, Florida, you went wide receiver back to

810
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: back these last two picks, Shot Bateman with the ninth

811
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: round pick and Jalen Hyatt with the tenth round pick.

812
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: You got a couple of giants on your roster wide. Yeah,

813
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: I don't just did that just happen?

814
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: Or yeah? Because what I've learned is in drafts like this,

815
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: Remember we were saying like in all quarterback seas, everyone

816
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: now goes super wide receiver heavy. So I messed up

817
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: after I had three through four rounds and felt great.

818
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: But then my next four picks were Lawrence Waller, Pacheco,

819
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: and Cook. Some no wide receivers there, and receiver dried

820
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: up insane. So I felt like Bateman I had. I

821
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 3: was like, I gotta take my pick of Ravens receivers here,

822
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: and I chose Bateman, and I easily could have chose wrong, Like,

823
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't have a strong lean at all of how

824
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: because new OC, new weapons brought in after Andrews, I

825
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: don't know how the target's gonna shake out. And then

826
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: I took Jalen Hyatt because I was looking at it

827
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm gonna just take the most

828
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: upside of that. I Felix on the board, and I

829
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: think he could be their top receiver this year, Like

830
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: he brings them speed out why that they need the

831
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: downfield explosiveness that they lacked. So I was like, I'll

832
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: go with some big play upside, But yeah, I could

833
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 3: easily see those two pigs just not working out.

834
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, here's the thing. I think. I

835
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: think Bateman's gonna be okay. I think he's gonna fit

836
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: in well in the new offense with Todd Monkin. But

837
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: I think for you, the upside is, you know, you're

838
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: rolling out here with DeVante Adams, Amari Cooper, and Calvin

839
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: Ridley pretty much every week, so that does give you

840
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: a little bit of flexibility to sort of play with

841
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: the wide receivers that you're drafting a little bit later

842
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: on in this one, so I don't I don't think

843
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: it's awful, and Jalen Hyatt I think falls under the

844
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: category of shiny new thing that that is sort of

845
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: there at this point. So let's see, end of the

846
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 2: ninth round was Jamal Williams, Khalil Herbert starts the tenth,

847
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: Florio goes with Jalen Hyatt right after that. Zay Flowers

848
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: goes right after that. So those two Baltimore Wide receivers

849
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: go within about four picks of each other, followed by

850
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: Chicka con Quo and Donovan People's Jones. Chick A con Quo,

851
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: I know, I know we all sort of like him.

852
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: It does feel like a dice roll though with the

853
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 2: guy like that.

854
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: To me, he's one of those I know. So we said,

855
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 3: like there's there's Kelsey and Andrews and that big third

856
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: tight end to me, which takes you through tight end seven.

857
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: After that there's like Evan Ingram, David and Joku and

858
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: and you know other tight ends that that you can like.

859
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: But if I miss out on the top seven tight ends,

860
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: I want to double dip, you know, like I'll take

861
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: like a Chig and Dalton Schultz or something like that,

862
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: or any sort of combination of those tight end twos.

863
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: But I would not want to just head into my

864
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: league with just one tight end if I miss out

865
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: on the top seven. Joel Smith is is drafting an

866
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: amazing team.

867
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: Joel's the gut punched me man. Like I was looking

868
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: at Daniel Jones, I was gonna I was gonna follow

869
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: up my Deshaun Watson pick with Daniel Jones, But thanks

870
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: to Joel Smith, it's not gonna happen because he took

871
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: him at the ten.

872
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 3: Seven, exactly what you wanted to do with Deshaun Watson.

873
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: I think Joel did the right way with Anthony Richardson,

874
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 3: Like you get Anthony Richardson first to ensure that you

875
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: have that upside quarterback, and then you take Daniel Jones

876
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: or he could have took Geno Smith or any of

877
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: these fallbacks that he feels good about. Then you have

878
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: a guy that you could start early on, so you

879
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: don't have to start Richardson if you want, But you

880
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: have so much upside with Anthony Richardson. It's exactly what

881
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: you did with now Deshaun and your QB two. But

882
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: I think it's what you want to do if you

883
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: have Deshaun or Richardson, which is what or Tua even,

884
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: which is the quarterbacks that I want if I miss

885
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 3: out on the elite guys.

886
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's see after let's see, let's let's catch up.

887
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: So Zay Flowers at the ten three, chick Akonkuo at

888
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 2: ten four, Donovan People's Jones at ten five, Ezekiel Elliott

889
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: Lakwan takes him at the ten six, which is, you know, look,

890
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: Zeke's gonna sign somewhere. We just don't know where or when.

891
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: But I can't imagine we're gonna get to week one

892
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: and Ezekiel Elliott's not gonna be on a roster, so

893
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 2: he goes to the ten six. Daniel Jones we mentioned,

894
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: Joel Smith taking him at ten seven. Joel putting together

895
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: a pretty nice roster here. Damien Harris goes at the

896
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: ten eight, Jack McKinnon at ten nine. My QB two

897
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: is Aaron Rodgers. I take him at the ten ten.

898
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: This is where we are now that Aaron Rodgers is

899
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: a QB two on a roster. Jacoby Myers at ten

900
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: eleven and waiting on the final pick of the tenth round.

901
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: And it's kind of Kyler.

902
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll say this, I thought about taking

903
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and kind of taking him as a second quarterback,

904
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: but it felt like too much risk. I'm like, I'm

905
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: waiting to see what Deshaun Watson's going to be. I

906
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: also don't want to have to be waiting for Kyler Murray.

907
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: You know, if you take Deshaun Watson and he turns

908
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: out to you know that last year wasn't the fluke

909
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: and that he is still un good. I also don't

910
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 2: want to have to be waiting who knows how many

911
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: weeks for another quarterback to get help for me.

912
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be letting other people draft Kyler Murray

913
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: more than likely this season. But if you take to

914
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: me where Kyler fitz is backing up the elite quarterbacks,

915
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: like if you take one of the top quarterbacks, because

916
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: then you know those guys are going to be playing

917
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: early on and you have Kyler as a fallback in

918
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: case of injury or something like that, but even more so,

919
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: you have a trade piece like and what I would

920
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: do in that situation is I wouldn't even wait for

921
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: Kyler to play a snap, Like if he's coming back,

922
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: say week six, Week four, and five. I'm trying to

923
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: trade him because the hype will be at its highest.

924
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that's where Kyler Murray kind of

925
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: suits in.

926
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: So Kyler Murray last pick of the tenth round. Darnelle

927
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: Mooney starts the eleventh round. Dalton Kincaid goes at eleven

928
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: to two. I take Tyler Algier at eleven to three.

929
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: I know we love Bijon. I know a thing that

930
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: Cynthia Friedland has cautioned is that Tyler else, you're still

931
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: going to have a role in this offense. I don't

932
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: know how it's gonna be. But I also sort of

933
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: took him with the thought that if anything were to

934
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: happen to Bijon, he steps into a big role in

935
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: an offense that's going to be run heavy, and we

936
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: saw last year he did a pretty good job with

937
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: that opportunity. So he goes eleven three. Elijah Mitchell, who

938
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: was honestly I was, I was moving the mouse back

939
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: and forth between Algier and Elijah Mitchell. I took Algier,

940
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: Mitchell goes right after him. David and Joku goes fifth.

941
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: Jonathan Mingo I was going to eleven six, followed by

942
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: Josh Down So we're getting a few rookies off the

943
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: board here in this round, since we're talking about Tyler Aljier.

944
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: Desmond Ridder was on Good Morning Football a couple of

945
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: days ago saying, and he thinks the Falcons are going

946
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: to be pretty explosive offensively in twenty twenty three. They

947
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: have the pieces to be Does that make you feel

948
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: me differently about Desmond Ridder? Though?

949
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: No, he's a fine like late late round dart throw

950
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: if you need to QB two or something like that.

951
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: But I this is one of those offenses where there's

952
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: a lot of offenses where I'm like, Okay, I'll take

953
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: the quarterback because I don't know who this is. The

954
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: opposite it's like no, no, no, I want the playmakers. And

955
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: maybe that's bad thinking because maybe Ritter could be what

956
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: like Tua was last year, which is like, look, I

957
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: love two. I was very defensive of him, but somewhat

958
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: a product of the playmakers and around him. Couldn't that

959
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: be Desmond Ridder? Yes, But I'm also very scared that

960
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith is just gonna run the ball a whole bunch. Yeah.

961
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: I mean that's very much a concern that you know,

962
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna run the ball a lot, so that's gonna

963
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: impact what Ritterer can do. He's not going to run

964
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: the way Mariota could run. Not that Mariota did run,

965
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: but he could run. See where are we now? Jonathan

966
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: Mingo at eleven to six. I know Jonathan Mingo is

967
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: a guy that people are having a lot of debate over.

968
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: You're about to be up, so I will I will

969
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: hold that question for a couple of minutes. But Jonathan

970
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: Ingo goes at the eleven to six from the Carolina Panthers.

971
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: Josh Downs from Indianapolis goes at eleven to seven. Dawson

972
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: knocks off the board at eleven eight, So Daltonton Kaid

973
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: and Dawson Knox both go in the same round about

974
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 2: six picks apart. Samaj p Ryan at the eleven to nine.

975
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: I think Samaj p Ryan at that spot is really

976
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: good value, just because who knows exactly when Javonte is

977
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: going to be ready, and I think either way he's

978
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: going to have a role in that Denver offense. But

979
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: if for whatever reason, Williams isn't ready at the beginning

980
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: of the year, or look if he just takes some

981
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: time to get back. I mean, we've seen guys with

982
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: acl tears really take a little bit of time to

983
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: kind of get back up to speed. Wouldn't be a

984
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: surprise if he has that. That situation there for Williams,

985
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: and that means Tomi J. P Ryan could end up

986
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: having a pretty decent role. So after p Ryan at

987
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: eleven nine, Romeo Dobbs goes at eleven ten. Florio goes

988
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: with Rashi Rice at eleven eleven, and I saw you

989
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: throw your head back in frustration because Devon A Chain

990
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 2: goes one pick after. I'm guessing you were targeting him there.

991
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: I was debating which order to take those two in,

992
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: and I looked at the team after me, and I

993
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: was like four and four receiver running back. But three

994
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: of their last four picks have been on running backs.

995
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 3: I guess that didn't matter.

996
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: It didn't matter. So h goes at the end of

997
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: the the d the eleventh round, Gino Smith starts the

998
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: twelfth Devin Singletary, you take him at twelve two. Just

999
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: can't quit your former Buffalo Bill Alan Lazard at the

1000
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: twelve three, Kirk Cousins at the twelve four. So Jonathan Mingo,

1001
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: I know there's a loud. Course of people out there

1002
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: that just don't like Jonathan Mingo. They just think, you know,

1003
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: skills wise, there's some there's a lot to be desired

1004
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: that it's just kind of uninspiring. But I also feel

1005
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: like there's a course of people who are like, look,

1006
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: look at the rest of that receiving cores in Carolina.

1007
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: There's plenty of opportunity for him to go out there.

1008
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: NBA Playmaker, which school of thought do you fall into?

1009
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: Somewhat in the middle, I think that there is plenty

1010
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 3: of opportunity for him to go out there. It wouldn't

1011
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: surprise me if early on if he's the third wide receiver,

1012
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: because they I think Adam Thielen and DJ Shark will

1013
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: start as their top two, but I think Mingo could

1014
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: quickly push them away, especially if they let him play

1015
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: in the slot. I liked Mingo a bit as a prospect,

1016
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 3: but I do think he's getting like landing spot matters.

1017
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: But I think there's some people who are over hyping him,

1018
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: And to me, I'm like, Okay, you just like you

1019
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: fell in love with the landing spot, you didn't watch

1020
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: the prospect. But I do think there's upside here with Mingo.

1021
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: I think some people are pushing it too far up

1022
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: a little bit, but he's someone like if he fell

1023
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 3: to me where five more picks later than he did,

1024
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: I would have took him over Rashi Rice.

1025
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: All Right, so I'm kind of with you. I think, Look,

1026
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: I think Mingo's he'll be okay. But then again, if

1027
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: you're so, he was taken by Joel Smith talking a

1028
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: lot about Joel on on a good team. He's got

1029
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 2: a good team, but he's got Ceedee Lamb, DJ Moore,

1030
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson. And then he takes Mingo as his fourth receiver,

1031
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: actually follows that up with Michael Gallup too, So he's

1032
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: definitely taken some swings, but he's got a good core

1033
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: of receivers. And then it's kind of like trying to

1034
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: fill in the gaps from there. I look at it as, Look,

1035
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: the situation is going to be advantageous because I think

1036
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: there's gonna be plenty of chances for him to compete

1037
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: and get on the field. But I also sort of

1038
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: look at it and say, like, yeah, both things can

1039
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: be true. It could be that he's not. Look, there

1040
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: are some things about him that are worth questioning. But

1041
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: on the whole. You know, the opportunity is going to

1042
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: be there, so I just don't overvalue potentially what he

1043
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: could be. I guess is what I'm trying to say

1044
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: this whole boy, So I take TJ Spears. Let me

1045
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: just catch you. Actually, I'm back on the board here.

1046
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Taj Spears, I know is someone we could talk

1047
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: about him. I know you like him a lot of

1048
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: tight end two run a little bit with Irv Smith

1049
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: and Greg Doltschik's going off the board there. I was

1050
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: planning on taking a tight end two to back up

1051
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Darren Waller, but now I'm looking at the tight ends

1052
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 3: that are available and I'm like, oh wait, there's one more.

1053
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, what, I might just go in with just

1054
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 3: one tight end right now, thirty seconds left for Marcus.

1055
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: This is the time. One, this is the time of

1056
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 3: the draft where it really starts sitting out and stuff.

1057
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: But two, it's also hard to do what we're like

1058
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 3: to talk about and as we're doing it, so I

1059
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: get it. I like, there's a couple of picks that

1060
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: I've been like, oh man, I wish I realized this

1061
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: player was about I know one that I was hoping

1062
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: felt me. I didn't think he was going to but

1063
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: that is a very good pick.

1064
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: All right. So now that I'm off the clock, a

1065
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: catch up. So after Florio took Singletary at twelve two,

1066
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: Alan Lazard goes at twelve three, Kirk Cousins at four,

1067
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: Raheem Moster, we go to the twelfth round before actually no,

1068
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: so devon a chin comes off the board before Raheem Mostered.

1069
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: That's a little bit of a surprise to me. So

1070
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: most are at twelve five, Jared Goff at twelve six,

1071
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 2: Michael Gallup at seven, see Russell Wilson at eight, IRV

1072
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: Smith let IRV swerve at the twelve nine. I take

1073
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: ty J Spears at twelve ten. Leard Fournette goes at

1074
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: twelve eleven. Greg Dulcic at the end of the twelfth round,

1075
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: started the thirteenth to get Sky Moore, followed by Elijah Moore.

1076
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 2: I take Kendram Miller at the thirteen three. Odell Beckham

1077
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: goes in the thirteenth round at pick four, Jeff Wilson

1078
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: at thirteen to five, Zach Ertz at thirteen six. I

1079
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: will just tell you that I'm I'm taking swings at

1080
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: this point on running backs who have potential path to

1081
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: bigger workloads. Miller may get some work at the beginning

1082
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: of the year because we're all anticipating Alvin Kamara being suspended,

1083
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: so that could certainly help him. Ty J. Spears I

1084
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: think might have a small role to begin with. But

1085
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: you know, if people believe the rumors and the Titans

1086
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: do decide to trade Derrick Henry, I think that opens

1087
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: the path for him. I mentioned aljier as being a

1088
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: guy who will have some sort of role I think

1089
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, But if, for whatever reason Bejon Robinson is unavailable,

1090
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 2: then that that opened some things up there for him

1091
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: as well. I'm through twelve rounds. How you feeling about

1092
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: your squad?

1093
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 3: I easily could have liked it better if a couple

1094
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: of picks were different. It's one of those things that

1095
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: I loved the first eight picks of this draft, but

1096
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: from nine to on I kind of hated it.

1097
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't I think we've all

1098
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: had those mocks, right, where like one thing sort of

1099
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: goes sideways and you kind of spiral a little bit.

1100
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: So I totally get it. But then this is why

1101
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: we do mock drafts, right, So, like you know you can,

1102
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: you can sort of prepare for when things like that

1103
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: that happen. Let's see, so after Zachers and Nico Collins

1104
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: comes off the board right now, he looks like the

1105
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver one in Houston. I know it's not exciting,

1106
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: but he looks like the wide receiver one there.

1107
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna be funny to see where if

1108
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: any of the rest of them go, because like seeing

1109
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 3: three Dolphins running backs go within like fifteen picks, it's like, yeah,

1110
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 3: that's understandable. It could be very similar with the Texans

1111
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 3: receivers because like we could say Nico Collins is the best,

1112
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 3: and then someone else could be like what about Tank

1113
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: Dell and what about John Metchi or Robert Woods. So

1114
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't be surprised to see him all go late.

1115
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't think anyone should be going too

1116
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 3: much earlier.

1117
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I think where where he went,

1118
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: I think that that makes perfect sense.

1119
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: Oh, your boy just went, oh.

1120
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 2: Sorry, I clicked off, which we just Brock Purty, Oh,

1121
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Brock perties off the board. This is one of the

1122
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: one of the rare mock drafts where Brock Purdy goes

1123
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: before Trey Lance.

1124
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: Which is how I think it should be.

1125
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: I think it's how it should be because all signs

1126
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: point to Purty being the starter come week one. But

1127
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: I think people are still sort of, you know, focused

1128
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: on the shiny thing, and that is Trey Lance and

1129
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: seeing what his upside could be. I think it's also

1130
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: going to help Trey Lance's adp that the reports at

1131
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: OTAs or that he was playing ahead of Sam Darnold,

1132
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 2: so it appears that he's going to get that opportunity

1133
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: if Purdy is not ready to go, So that may

1134
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: have something to do with it. But literally, I have

1135
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: seen a lot of Trey Lance ahead of Brock Purty

1136
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 2: in mock drafts. Let's see so Nico Collins goes thirteen

1137
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 2: dot seven, Bryce Young at the thirteen point eight, Israel

1138
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: Abana Kanda at thirteen to nine, Brock Purdy goes thirteen

1139
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: to ten. You and Juwan Johnson's that's been You've got

1140
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: tight ends that you have been big on. You got

1141
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: Darren Waller, you got Juwan Johnson. You have gotten your

1142
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: guys at the tight end position so far in this

1143
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: mock draft. Adam Feelen thirteen twelve. I talk about life

1144
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: comes at you fast and I mean Adam Thielen was

1145
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: what not that long ago? He was a second third

1146
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: round pick.

1147
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: I've been the low guy on theeling for years and

1148
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: even I'm like thirteenth, last pick of the thirteenth round. Sure,

1149
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: why not?

1150
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: Sure? Why not? Why not take that shot? So let's

1151
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: see waiting for the first pick of the fourteenth round.

1152
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: We got our first defense.

1153
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: Oh are we supposed to draft a kicker in a defense?

1154
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: You don't have to? All right, I should probably put

1155
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: that in the chat. Let me know.

1156
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: My question though, is how many rookies? Is too many rookies?

1157
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: Because my first four wide receivers are Adams, Cooper, Ridley,

1158
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 3: and Bateman, and then after that all of my receivers

1159
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: are rookies. I have Jalen Hyatt, Rashid Rice, and Jayden.

1160
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: Reid Jaden Reid, Jayden Reid who uh? I think it

1161
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: is an interesting test case because again our Powell, Matt

1162
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: Harmon is saying he thinks the ceiling is higher than

1163
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: what Christian Watson has.

1164
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 3: Oh that's an interesting strategy right there.

1165
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: So our pal Aaron Tann social media guru here, and

1166
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: I was giving him a hard time for taking George Chittle,

1167
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: but He's also taken Brock Purty and Trey Lance in

1168
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: back to back picks.

1169
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: I think it's a good strategy.

1170
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

1171
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: With the fifteenth, might as well go Sam Darnold and

1172
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: then you have their quarterback locked in.

1173
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: So that way you're you're guaranteed at the forty nine

1174
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: ers Week one starter. Uh huh, I'm I'm I'm a

1175
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: little bit shook. I don't think it's terrible.

1176
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: If it was like you had to take two quarterbacks

1177
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 3: to get like I don't know, the Panthers or something

1178
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 3: like that, their quarterback room lockdown, it's terrible.

1179
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: At least you're doing it in a good offense.

1180
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a good offense with great pieces and one

1181
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 3: that historically the quarterback has been pretty good for fantasy purpose.

1182
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: He really has. So let's catch up here because Cowboys

1183
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 2: defense goes top of the fourteenth, followed by Jaden Reid,

1184
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: Trey Lance, Tank Bigsby, and then we go Justin Tuckers.

1185
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: We got a kick her off the board. Sam Laporta

1186
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: is the sixth pick of the fourteenth round, Rashawn Johnson,

1187
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: then Kareem Hunt. So a lot of the free agent

1188
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: running backs are off the board. There's Zeke's gone, Fournette's gone,

1189
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: Kareem Hunt is gone. I know what I'm going to do,

1190
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: as long as it doesn't get snatched up ahead of me.

1191
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: I have my eye on somebody, and we'll see what

1192
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: happens here.

1193
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: I like the Tank Bigsby pick as well, and I

1194
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: mean fourteenth round.

1195
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a bad pick.

1196
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: Four round, fourteen, Yeah, we're starting to see a lot

1197
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: more rookies go. This is more rookies, and I always

1198
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 3: feel like, especially this close to the draft, and I

1199
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 3: mean I'm one to talk. I have three rookies on

1200
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: my team. Rookies are so fresh in our heads that

1201
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: I think their names kind of pop out.

1202
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: A little bit. No, absolutely so, speaking of rookies, I

1203
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: take Michael Mayer with the tenth pick in the fourteenth round.

1204
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: So between between Kareem Hunt, Michael mayor z A Jones

1205
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: off the board. So we got a couple picks left

1206
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 2: in the fourteenth and then we get to the fifteenth

1207
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: and final round. I know we have been really praising

1208
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 2: of Joel Smith in this one. Going back through his roster,

1209
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: he goes Bijon in the first, Cede Lamb, Tony Polar,

1210
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: Jamier Gibbs, DJ Moore, Deontay Johnson, Evan Ingram, Alexander Madison,

1211
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Daniel Jones, Jonathan Mingo, Michael Gallup, Zach Ertz,

1212
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: and Rashawn Johnson. This is, by the way, Joel drafting

1213
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: from the sixth spot, so kind of smack dab in

1214
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: the middle. Able to put together this roster. Not a

1215
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: bad run at all. Anybody else whose roster sort of

1216
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: jumps out as you here.

1217
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: I like, uh, the number one picks lineup a lot

1218
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 3: with the Jefferson, Wattle Higgins, it's unloaded top three receivers.

1219
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: Then you get Herbert Dobbins, Connor. I think James Connor

1220
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: is undervalued right now because when Kyler Murray missed time

1221
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 3: last year, they were forced feeding. Like he became in

1222
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: the end of last season with no Kyler, he kind

1223
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: of became what he was two years ago, which was

1224
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: like a rock solid RB one. I liked his build

1225
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: a lot. I think you you have a really nice

1226
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: team as well. And then at number four the Eckler

1227
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 3: Jacobs Mahomes start. I don't love it after that, but

1228
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: I think that is such a good start.

1229
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Eckler Jacobs Mahomes keenan Allen, I think

1230
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: it's okay. That's his wide receiver one, which does come

1231
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: with some risk going back on the clock. Hang on,

1232
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: I know exactly what I'm gonna do.

1233
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: So after his keen and he went de hop, which

1234
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: we talked about Rashad White. I'm just not a Rashad

1235
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 3: White guy.

1236
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of staying away from the bucks where

1237
01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: I can.

1238
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: And and I've kind of said I'm souring on George Pickens,

1239
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 3: so have him there, but that start of that roster

1240
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 3: and then like adding like Jack Minckinnon late, Odell Beckham late,

1241
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: I think there is certainly value to be had on

1242
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: this team. I do like that Bill absolutely.

1243
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: So let's see the fourteenth round ends with the Eagles

1244
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: defense and Harrison Butker. Those are the final two picks

1245
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 2: of that round. It starts with the forty nine Ers defense,

1246
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: followed by Evan McPherson. I did not take a kicker

1247
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: or a defense. I finished with Marvin Mims, who's getting

1248
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of buzz in Denver, so I figured

1249
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: I would take the shot on him in the fifteenth round.

1250
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: Derek Carr is off the board who I'm waiting for

1251
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 2: him to respond to Jake Hayner's photo shoot. Have you

1252
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: seen the Jake Hayner photo sho Yes, yes, I need

1253
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: Derek Carr respond. It's got to be some sort of

1254
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: Fresno state battle. They're both Fresno state guys. We got

1255
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: to figure out which bulldog is the top dog when

1256
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: it comes to taking Glamor Show.

1257
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: They talk about that a lot.

1258
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I think they will.

1259
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 3: They that's probably like what they have in common.

1260
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: But they haven't come exactly. So I'm sure they're gonna,

1261
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, every week, they're gonna be catching up on

1262
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 2: on what's happening with the bulldogs and what's going on

1263
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: in the Mountain West and all that kind of stuff.

1264
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: That'll be that'll be fun for them. So Car goes

1265
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: with a fourth pick of the fifteenth round. The Jets

1266
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: defense is fifteen to five, Robert Woods at fifteen six.

1267
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman, what he did it I almost took He's

1268
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: just fifteen seven, is Deontay Forman. The Dolphins defense goes

1269
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 2: fifteen to eight, Kayshawn Butte fifteen nine, and Aaron we

1270
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: He gets the trifect that he takes Sam Darnold with

1271
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: his final pick DJ Chark as you go. Florio goes

1272
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: at fifteen eleven. So the final pick the uh mister

1273
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: irrelevance of our mock draft, waiting to see who it is.

1274
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: Waiting, I considered Rashid Shahed here, who is a Patrick

1275
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: Claybon favorite.

1276
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: He is a clay Bond favorite. Rashid Shaheed there. I

1277
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: think you know you to say it, but he'll be

1278
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: better in Best Ball, oh for sure, absolutely better in

1279
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: Best Ball.

1280
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: I also considered Deontay Hardy, who I think is gonna

1281
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: be the Bills three unless they trade for d Hop

1282
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 3: and not Shakir. But Shakier's the one that's getting more

1283
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 3: hype right now.

1284
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: He is getting more hype right now. I will tell

1285
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: you this. I went. I went straight rookies at the end.

1286
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: My last four picks were all rookies, with the tay J. Spears,

1287
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: Kendram Miller, Michael Mayer, and Marvin Mims.

1288
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: I think that's the way to do it. You get

1289
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: that like young upside late without having to pay a

1290
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: huge draft price for it.

1291
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 2: And that was sort of one of my New Year's

1292
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: resolutions for Fantasy that I was going to draft more rookies.

1293
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: So the final pick is Daniel Carlson. That is the

1294
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: final pick of this mock draft. So it is there.

1295
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: It is fifteen rounds in the books. I will post

1296
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: this on Twitter dot com so you guys can see

1297
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: the whole board and give your thoughts on what you

1298
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 2: think and how you think we did. All right, I

1299
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: know this is Beefie. We're gonna take a quick break.

1300
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna come back and we're gonna do what we

1301
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: really set out to do.

1302
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: Which totally forgot. We still had to do that.

1303
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: We we still gonna talk about con Air, right, I mean,

1304
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: we watched the movie. We should do this. So if

1305
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: you guys want to join us after the break, we'll

1306
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: be glad to have you. Please, guys, we appreciate you

1307
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: hanging out with us, but that we're gonna take a

1308
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: quick break, come back, and we're gonna talk about Nick

1309
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: Cage in an airplane. It's gonna be fun. That's up

1310
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 2: next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, back

1311
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: with kind of a special segment here on the podcast,

1312
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: because we're still gonna do Florio's film festival, because why not.

1313
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: We all sat and watched con Air. I paid my

1314
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 2: three ninety nine to rent it and so let's kind

1315
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: of get it in here. By the way, thanks for

1316
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: if you guys decided to kick in after the break

1317
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 2: and hang out with us, we are We're grateful for that.

1318
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: Now you know you didn't have to. So the quick synopsis.

1319
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: Con Air, released June sixth, nineteen ninety seven, A newly

1320
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: paroled X con and former US ranger Cameron Poe finds

1321
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: himself trapped in a prisoner transport plane with a passenger

1322
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 2: seas control your your immediate takeaways from con Air.

1323
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 3: I liked it. I thought it was good. I uh,

1324
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: it was good in it because I like bad action movies.

1325
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 3: I guess like as long as the action isn't two

1326
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: over the top or anything like that, and this was

1327
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: there was a This was good in the sense of one.

1328
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 3: It had a lot of big name actors I think

1329
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: before they really were big name, Like poor Dave Chappelle's

1330
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 3: character deserved better than then.

1331
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: Pinball or ip Pinball.

1332
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: I still don't fully understand how he ended up where

1333
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: he did.

1334
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was running alongside the plane and all

1335
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: of a sudden just yeah.

1336
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 3: But besides that, I was like, he deserved better. But

1337
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: a lot of big name actors and people that you

1338
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 3: root for, and that's always big for me, Like I

1339
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: need to watch something where I can be rooting for

1340
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: the characters, and I very much so was because one

1341
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: they make you like the good guy characters, but two

1342
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 3: they really make the bad guys unlikable, right, especially uh

1343
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 3: Danny tree Hill's character, like you're rooting for his demise

1344
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 3: whole movie.

1345
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: Well, Johnny twenty three. Yeah, there's nothing redeemable about it

1346
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: at all about his character whatsoever. Yeah, I mean they're

1347
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,959
Speaker 2: very like there are rxtremes. There's no there're no gray

1348
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: areas with the characters in this movie, right, Like you

1349
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 2: either root for them. There's you know, the Cameron po

1350
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: there's Baby O like you're rooting for those guys to

1351
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: make it. There's Vince Larkin who's like the heroic you

1352
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: know us Marshall. And then there's the the dea guy

1353
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: who's just like kind of a.

1354
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: Oh he's honestly, he's more unlikable than the criminals.

1355
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's it's it's black and white, right, this

1356
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: is not a movie that has nuance, Like you're not

1357
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 2: gonna sit and really like you know, you're not gonna

1358
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: have they're not gonna be think pieces written about kan Air, Right,

1359
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: you just get your popcorn and you just enjoy sort

1360
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: of what happens in this one. Uh. The budget of

1361
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: seventy five million grows two hundred and twenty four million worldwide.

1362
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, this this this month, this movie made

1363
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: some money. Was released, uh the same month as Face Off,

1364
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: which is another movie we have watched on this.

1365
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 3: One was way better than Face way better.

1366
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: Than Face Off. Yeah, this one holds up way way

1367
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 2: better than Face.

1368
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like Nick Cage is is better in this movie.

1369
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 3: And but both are movies that when we were talking

1370
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 3: about it before we recorded, I understand so many more

1371
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 3: memes and gifts now online now that I've seen these

1372
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: two movies, Like Nick Cage was such a such an icon.

1373
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 3: The other thing I noticed too, though nineties movies. I'm

1374
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 3: guessing it was it seems like a theme now where

1375
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: like this movie like okay, yeah, he beat someone up,

1376
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 3: kills someone because they were harassing his wife. That happens

1377
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 3: in like thirty seconds, And like I feel this isn't

1378
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 3: the first movie we've watched where it's like this is

1379
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 3: what shapes the whole movie, but it happens in the

1380
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: first like five minutes and that's it.

1381
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I mean this movie wastes zero time

1382
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: getting into it, right because you get Cameron Poe, you know,

1383
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 2: coming back from his stint with the Army, immediately goes

1384
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 2: to jail, which, by the way, it was self defense

1385
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: in which he killed the guy. Like it wasn't it wasn't,

1386
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 2: you know, an unprovoked attack, like this guy was harassing

1387
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: him and his wife. He fought him, he killed the guy.

1388
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 2: Somehow he still gets like seven to ten years in prison.

1389
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: And I will say I knew zero about this movie

1390
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: going in so watching and I was like, oh, it's

1391
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: a prison movie. And then I was like, oh, wait, no,

1392
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 3: this makes sense. They're gonna be on the plane. And

1393
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 3: then there's numerous times where I thought the movie was

1394
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 3: like nearing its finish and it's like, oh, no, we're

1395
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 3: just making a detour or something like that.

1396
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: These are the dumbest crud You make two different stops.

1397
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 2: If you are committing crime and you're trying to escape,

1398
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: you don't like stop for gas, you don't go pick

1399
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: somebody up.

1400
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 3: And you don't get rid of some of the criminals,

1401
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: like why were some of them willing to just get.

1402
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: Lefted off the plane, right because the rest of the

1403
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: guys are you're going back to jail, You're not just escaping.

1404
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 3: That's why, like Pinball, it made sense. He was like,

1405
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 3: I don't want to be in prison. I'm willing to

1406
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 3: sacrifice my life to try to get back on this plane,

1407
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 3: which I still don't know how he got to where

1408
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: he got the wheels, but makes sense. The other guys

1409
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 3: who were just like, yeah, we'll stay here, we'll so

1410
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 3: you guys can get away, I'm like, no one would

1411
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 3: sign up.

1412
01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: No one would sign up for that.

1413
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 3: I also love that they just randomly started like digging

1414
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 3: out the plane. I'm like, there's no way that would work.

1415
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: I will say this, The cops took forever to get there.

1416
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: They were on the ground, and He's like, hell off,

1417
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: how far aware are they owe ten to twelve minutes

1418
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 2: somehow attend to twelve minutes they're digging out a plane. Cyrus,

1419
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: the virus comes up with a plan of not onely

1420
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: comes up with a plan of escape, but finds junk

1421
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 2: around the junkyard to create a diagram of the airfield

1422
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: that we are at.

1423
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 3: And they find so much weapons, so many like they

1424
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 3: go from having nothing they have one gun on the

1425
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: original plane or two guns.

1426
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 2: I believe so they had. So I know that Cyrus

1427
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: is I have the only gun on the plane, but

1428
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: I think it's because he didn't realize that there were

1429
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: more guns underneath. Oh okay, he was not aware of

1430
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: that until later. So for him in his mind, yes,

1431
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm the only gun that we have on the plane.

1432
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 2: But then they find the other guns. They go to

1433
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: this airfield, they find a ton more guns there. The

1434
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 2: cops that are apparently ten minutes away took about half

1435
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 2: an hour apparently to get there.

1436
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 3: That was the part of the movie where I was

1437
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 3: like doing a whole lot in this little amount of

1438
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: little time. Also, the cops would not have let them

1439
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 3: get to Vegas, like when they're over the desert, one

1440
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 3: hundred percent. They would have shut it down there. They

1441
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been like, there's one guy on there trying

1442
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: to get back to his wife and kid. They would

1443
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 3: have been like, sorry, buddy, sorry about your lucke. Yeah,

1444
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: you're going down with the rest of them, and they

1445
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: would have just shot him all. But uh, once they

1446
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 3: get to Vegas, that is where I was like, that's

1447
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 3: where Nick Cage's story would have ended. He would not

1448
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: have jumped on a police bike.

1449
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 2: Nor would they be like, hey man, I did my part.

1450
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm going back to my wife and kid. My kid

1451
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 2: who I've never seen in person at this point, she's

1452
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 2: like in the second grade and I've never seen her

1453
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 2: in real life.

1454
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 3: That that part was ridiculous. The other parts that stood

1455
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 3: out to me was Nick Cage just straight up eats

1456
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: a bullet like it's nothing like he he hits and

1457
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 3: he doesn't even slow down. And then like ten minutes

1458
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 3: later he's on the fire truck using his arm that

1459
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,799
Speaker 3: just got shot one hen and he's like At one point,

1460
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, this this is where maybe it's

1461
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 3: going a little bit too far. But the crash scene

1462
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: into Vegas was a really cool like it.

1463
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: Was a cool shot well in it, but also like

1464
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 2: it would have created so many casualties. Oh yeah, I

1465
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: mean I thought they would have just shot it down.

1466
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: You're landing a plane on the Las Vegas Strip. I

1467
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: don't even care when it is, like it could be

1468
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: a Tuesday evening, Like you're going to have casualties with

1469
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 2: cars on the strip, people walking up and down the street,

1470
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: and you went from like you the entire length of

1471
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: the strip into downtown Las Vegas. The thing a long

1472
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:32,799
Speaker 2: way on the ground.

1473
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: But my other question was why did they want to

1474
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: make a happy ending for arguably the worst character in

1475
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 3: the movie, Steve Buscemi, who it's it's him versus Danny

1476
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: Treill's character. For where like the other criminals are intimidated

1477
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: by Steve Buscemi, They're like, you have to see what

1478
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: he's a serial killer, you have to see what he

1479
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 3: does to the people. And then like it's a happy ending.

1480
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 2: That he's leaps the little girl.

1481
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he's at the crowd. I was like,

1482
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 3: so this doesn't seem right.

1483
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: I say this, for as much as they build up

1484
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 2: that character, Garland Green, as much they build up the character,

1485
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't do anything. You know. I know, there's you

1486
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 2: know the old you know that when it comes to

1487
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: writing the the theory, I think it's Chekhov's gun, right,

1488
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: where if you introduce a gun at some point in

1489
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: the the story, it has to go off. And in

1490
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 2: the context of this and a story with a ton

1491
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: of guns, he's sort of the quote unquote metaphorical gun, right,

1492
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 2: He's the big wild card, right, They're like, what was

1493
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: the line? Like he makes the Manson family look like

1494
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: the Partridge family, Like that was the thing. He doesn't

1495
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: do anything. He hangs out with the little girl, they

1496
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 2: sing the song the Girl's Okay, and then like he

1497
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: escapes and goes to play, which, by the way, if

1498
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm a wanted serial killer, I'm not just gonna I'm not.

1499
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 3: Going no, because you're getting especially while they're searching for

1500
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 3: criminals in Vegas, like who just escapes but the little girl?

1501
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 3: I was happy he didn't obviously happy, he didn't or anything.

1502
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 3: But the one thing that I think he added was

1503
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 3: like when the when they're all freaking out on the

1504
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: plane and he's just singing. I got the whole. I

1505
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: was like, that's cool to be to see his like

1506
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 3: criminal mind, like like crazy, he's kind of twisted and stuff.

1507
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, I wanted him to do something, get calls.

1508
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: Or actually do anything. They build him up and then

1509
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 2: like nothing, he just he's just there.

1510
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 3: Steve Buscemi's made a career off of being that guy too,

1511
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: like the one who doesn't do a whole lot in

1512
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 3: movie just like kind of talks like that's his role

1513
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: in a lot of.

1514
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 2: Movies pretty much. He's good at it.

1515
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 3: He's oh, he's great.

1516
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: He's been a wonderful career out of out of being

1517
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: that guy. A couple other things, Nick Cage apparently traveled

1518
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: to Alabama to work on his accent. I am I am,

1519
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: by no means an expert on accents or dialects. I

1520
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: just want if there's somebody who's listening to this pod

1521
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: who is from Alabama, I need to know how authentic

1522
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: was it, because I feel like it was a trash accent.

1523
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, so, I finished this movie yesterday

1524
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 3: and then I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do some work.

1525
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 3: So while I was working, I just my cousin Vinnie

1526
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: was on. So I love that movie. Threw it on

1527
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: and that is an Alabama movie. Yes, and the accent

1528
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 3: sounded way different than Yeah.

1529
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like it was a trash accent.

1530
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 2: But I just want somebody who knows more than I

1531
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: do about these sorts of things to tell me.

1532
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: Looking at the notes, he was so June twenty of

1533
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven, like Nick Cage dominated.

1534
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: I know he was dominating the box office because I mean,

1535
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: look face off as as badly as it holds up.

1536
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: Made a lot of money. Oh yeah, in this movie

1537
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: made a lot of money.

1538
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: So this I feel like made more than most of

1539
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 3: the movies we've talked about.

1540
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 2: Probably it also costs, I think, more than most of

1541
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: the movies. I think, Yeah, maybe Terminator two might have

1542
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: cost more because that costs a lot of money. Also

1543
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: made a lot of money. But but yeah, this is

1544
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: up there in terms of box office success. Let's see

1545
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 2: other notes that I thought were interesting. Some of the

1546
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: people chosen to play Cyrus the virus Gary Oldman, I

1547
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 2: thought could have been pretty good, been Bacon, Alec Baldwin,

1548
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 2: George Clooney, Robert de Niro. That would have been weird.

1549
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 3: It would have been weird.

1550
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: James Gandolfini I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine. Tony would

1551
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 2: have been pre Tony soprano, but that would have been weird.

1552
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: Let's see other interesting names. Michael Keaton, John Travolta, I

1553
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: could see John Travolta.

1554
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 3: That would have been great if if Nick Cage and John.

1555
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: Travolta had movies at the same time, that would have

1556
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 2: been amazing. Right when they're battling each other. Some of

1557
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 2: the people chosen to play Cameron Poe, Patrick Swayze, Tom Cruise.

1558
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it would have been as entertaining if

1559
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 2: with Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Keanu Reeves. I can see

1560
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 2: Keanu Reeves as Cameron Poe.

1561
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 3: So I know all of these actors for how big

1562
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: they are now, But like at the time, was Brad Pitt.

1563
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: Brad Pitt.

1564
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: I don't think he was quite to the Brad Pitt

1565
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: level that you know him now, but he was. I

1566
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: think he was still like heart throb, you know, Brad Pitt.

1567
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 3: Johnny Depp, I know, was very big at that point on.

1568
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny Depp was definitely a big deal.

1569
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 3: The others like Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Steven, they were big deal

1570
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 3: fan damn. Like those would have been very different movies.

1571
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 2: They'd have been very very different because like with Cage,

1572
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, there's the action part of it, but there's

1573
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 2: also sort of like there's kind of the wink in

1574
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 2: the nod that he's just goofy at the same time.

1575
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 3: And and like the scenes where like his hair is

1576
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: blowing in the wind and stuff like that would have

1577
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 3: been so different. Yeah, absolutely, So you know it's a

1578
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 3: different movie. The bunny scene would have been significantly less funny.

1579
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 3: I think if it was any of those.

1580
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 2: Guys, couldn't you put the bonet.

1581
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 3: Back in the box? That accent was so bad when

1582
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 3: he said it.

1583
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 2: That was terrible, so terrible that one. All right? So,

1584
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like you enjoyed this movie? Would

1585
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: you would you willingly watch it again? Yeah?

1586
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because it's one of those movies where like

1587
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: you could kind of just mindlessly watch. And I live

1588
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 3: for movies like that, Like I love throwing movies on that,

1589
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 3: like you can just kind of get lost in and

1590
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: not really pay attention. It's why we like Fast in

1591
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: the Furious Podcast so much.

1592
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 2: So I got ask because I know you're you're putting

1593
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 2: a ranking together of of the movies we watched so far.

1594
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: Was it Pulp Fiction was one? Speed was two and

1595
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: point Break two? And Speed three? Does this? Does this

1596
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 2: crack the top three?

1597
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 3: So that's the thing. I haven't added it yet because

1598
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 3: I keep going back and forth, like do I want

1599
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 3: to put it after the Keanu Reeves movies. I don't

1600
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 3: think it's gonna top point Break, but I think it

1601
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 3: might slide in with It's either gonna be three or

1602
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 3: four for me with then I'm like, Terminator two probably

1603
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 3: is a better movie, but I don't know. I just

1604
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 3: if you can't tell. I enjoy very bad action, but

1605
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 3: a ton of action.

1606
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: That's part of the reason I wanted to do this,

1607
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: because like, I want to watch some bad actions.

1608
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: They're so entertaining, you know, Like I get made fun

1609
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 3: of like Four Brothers as a movie. My friends make

1610
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 3: fun of me all the time for liking but I'm like,

1611
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: but it's mindless action and stuff like I enjoy that.

1612
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's why I'm enjoying this series. So

1613
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: all right, So, so a big thumbs up for con Air.

1614
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: Next week, we're hoping to get our pala Quan Jones

1615
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 2: on the show, and he made a request. He wanted

1616
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 2: to talk about the Last Action Hero from nineteen ninety three,

1617
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: Arnold Schwarzenegger. I will I will actually come clean to

1618
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: say that I've never actually seen The Last Action Hero,

1619
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: so this will be new to me too.

1620
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 3: So next week it's both of us.

1621
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 2: Next week it'll be both of us, and so hopefully

1622
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: Lakwan is available to come in and talk about it,

1623
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: because that'll that'll be fun. He's he will be the

1624
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 2: expert on this film. I have actually honestly never seen

1625
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: this movie.

1626
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 3: That to be honest, you are like the pop culture guy,

1627
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,480
Speaker 3: like if you haven't seen something, I'm very shocked.

1628
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: Because like there's I don't know how I missed it.

1629
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: I was like thinking about this, like how did I mean,

1630
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 2: like it was that summer. I would have been sixteen.

1631
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: It was prime movie going time for me. For whatever reason,

1632
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: I just somehow has eluded me all these years.

1633
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 3: There's very few movies I feel like that I've ever

1634
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 3: been like have you seen this and you've said no.

1635
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 2: To Yeah, this is one. I don't know. It's just

1636
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 2: it's somehow has just slipped through my fingers. So I

1637
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: look forward to watching this one.

1638
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 3: There you go, Hey, that's to be the thing. Whenever

1639
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 3: we have a guest, it should be like, give us

1640
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 3: one movie that you want us to watch.

1641
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 2: That's true. Maybe that's what we do because we're just

1642
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: start reaching out getting guests on and we can have

1643
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 2: them come and talk about movies that they enjoy. All Right,

1644
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: this has been a beefy befeat long show. Thanks to

1645
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: everybody who jumped in to help us out with our

1646
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: mock draft. Thanks to all of you who sat and

1647
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: listen to all of this, especially if you stuck around

1648
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 2: for the movie portion of this whole thing, We're certainly

1649
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: grateful that you spent your time hanging out with us.

1650
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: In the meantime that I'll do it for this edition

1651
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy,

1652
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 2: do good and live well. Enjoy whatever bad action movies

1653
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: you want to watch, and we will talk to you

1654
01:20:42,040 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 2: next week. But at the book a boat Boy. Take

1655
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 2: this book as a high complete catalyze