1 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Welcome into episode thirty four of the best podcast available 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: on Jason Gibbs joined today by Andrew Gribble, as I 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: am for every episode, special guest the Z stands for 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Zagura joins us as well this week, and guys will 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: kick things off with a couple of news and notes 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: and and get your thoughts on some of what the 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: players and coaches have had to say over the last 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Will start Gribbs with you takeaways from 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt at his meeting with the media on Monday. Well, 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: for me, it was a lot of the same of 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: what I heard with with Nathan's great interview with Cream 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Hunt a couple of weeks ago on cb nationally recognized 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: interview with Cream Right. Uh, you know, I think the 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: big thing that's following Kareem Monty's last couple of days 15 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: is his talk about being a wide receiver. And I 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: think that when when you're talking about the Brown's options 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: at third receiver, there's not a ton of guys with 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot of experience, and we don't know how much 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: a third receiver is gonna be used. But from what 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: we saw from him last year, anytime he lined out 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: why I liked getting the ball in his hands, especially 22 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: close to the line of scrimmage and letting him uh 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: do the work with it. And I think we saw 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: this a little bit with Duke Johnson back in his 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: time with the Browns, and I I don't know if 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: I like, I don't know if Duke thrived when he 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: lined up wide as much as he got in the backfield. 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a matter of how does Kareem 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: adjust if he's lined up like a wide receivers that 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: that can be a little bit more of a challenge 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: for the running back. Yeah, what I found interesting was it. 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: And Crips, thanks for the kind words about that that 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: interview there that went viral. But is that in that 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: interview when we asked them, you know, what did they 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: think of you? Where you know, he said they see 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: me as a running back, not as a gadget guy. 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: And then it comes out Shadowsha talks you know, late 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: last week and says, oh, he's been in the wide 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: receiver me things. And then you mentioned that was really 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the focus today was that he's been 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver meets. I don't think Nick Chubb's 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver meetings, So they're trying to find ways, 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: and it's smart to get your best players on the field, 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: right And there are only so many carries and only 45 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: so many snaps at running back, and Nick Chubb's great, 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: Kareem is great, but you don't We're probably not gonna 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: go fifty fifty. So how do we get when he's 48 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily carrying the ball? Get Kareem Hunt involved? And 49 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: so you're right, You've got o'dellh You've got Jarvis, You've 50 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: got Hollywood Higgins. Then it's wide open. I mean, it 51 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: is honestly wide open. I know Tawan Taylor was a 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: former third round pick at nearly five hundred yards two 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: years ago with the Titans, but didn't play really for 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: us last year, didn't catch a pass. And then it's 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: a lot of young guys. Can Daryl Hodge, Damien Radley 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: his career highs two hundred yards, So there is a 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of room for movement in that wide receiver room. 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: And and frankly, you're probably more dangerous with the things 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: you can do with Kareem Ut on the field in 60 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: certain cases then some of those other guys. And the 61 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: other thing is you're gonna have a training camp if 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: it happens on time, which we all certainly hope, and 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: that's the plan with the NFL move forward, where we're 64 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: not sure if you're gonna have Jarvis and O'Dell at 65 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: the starting training camp. So who's lining up at wide 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: receiver early in this camp. That's gonna be critical for 67 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in year number three. Yeah, I think it's 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: it's a case of again getting your best players on 69 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: the field, finding ways to get your best players on 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: the field. And Kareem's open anything. He's made it clear 71 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: whatever it's gonna take to win football games. And I 72 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: think he had some strong points on Monday about watching 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: his former team hoist the Lombardi Trophy, and I think 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: there's some extra and added motivation going into the season. 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: Z Um, No matter what, he's on board for whatever 76 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: the Browns coaching staff wants him to do. Yeah, there's 77 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I think one of the 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: that's interesting is, you know we brought an Andy Janovic 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and so we saw last year in the Minnesota Vikings 80 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: they send their fullback c J. Ham to the Pro Bowl. 81 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: We see what Kyle youth Check can do in this 82 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: type of an offense as kind of that fullback, but 83 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: who can also catch it and also run it in 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: San Francisco for Kyle Shan, Why can't Kareem Hunt do 85 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: some of those things in certain looks because what that 86 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: position is, it's lead blocking sometimes, which we've seen Kareem 87 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: do very well. Sometimes you actually get the ball as 88 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: a runner. But I would imagine where a little more 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Danish Jennevitch would probably come back and say, hey, I'm 90 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: managing over ten yards a catch for my career. But 91 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: when you get those little leakouts off of that play action, 92 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: they call him keepers. Getting that ball to Kareem Hunt 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: space with one guy to beat or nobody beat, that's 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: pretty enticing to me, and you might not know who's 95 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: doing whatness offense. So I think the more ways you 96 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: can use Krem the better. Yes, he is motivated. Look, 97 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasons for cream Hunt to 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: be motivated. This is a guy that, had he not 99 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: had setbacks, would be entering free agency. Uh you know, shortly, 100 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: he's a guy who would have been making I think 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: a lot of money. You know, the leading rushaurant the 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: league is a rookie in two thousand and seventeen. And 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: so with Kareem Hunt, now he knows he's got to 104 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: be able to flash and limited in limited action. Right, 105 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: it's Nick Chubb's backfield. Kareem Hunt is such a stud 106 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: but so is Nick Chubb, and so Kareem Hunt. It's likely, 107 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, you're not gonna be able to keep Cream 108 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: Hunt and Nick Chubb in this backfield forever. So for 109 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: Kareem he wants to put out what he can do 110 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: so that he concussion because he is one of the 111 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: ten best running backs in the league. We just happen 112 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: to have him both here in Cleveland. I was just like, 113 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: can we steal that play that the Chiefs ran at 114 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: First Energy Stadium with Kareem Hunt a couple of years ago? 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean when he was the a f C Offensive 116 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Player of the Week, And yeah, I remember that one. 117 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Well if he if if that's the only past play 118 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: the Browns do with Cream Hunt, let's let it be 119 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: that one. That's a good last year. Just over and 120 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: over again. I'll say all this talk about him as 121 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, though I'm I'm of the opinion I 122 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: want to see him more as as a ball character. Yes, 123 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: and I just think it was not utilized enough last year, 124 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: and I liked I just think I'm saying both are 125 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: good in the red zone. I just think that Kareem 126 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: could be utilized there even more. I just think that 127 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: there's there's something there that this was not tapped into 128 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: during the second half of the season. And I just 129 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: want to find a way to divide up the carries 130 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more than they were with both of 131 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: them last year. I mean, we didn't even give Chump 132 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the ball at the end of the year when we 133 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: needed to, so saying he didn't get enough carries. Yes, 134 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: we're the only team in the NFL that has two 135 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: running backs on the roster with yards seasons under their belts, 136 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: and we've got two of them who have done it 137 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: in the last three years. We've got to find out 138 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be the focus. But part of the 139 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: things goes back to it, right is last year you 140 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: heard a lot of players after the season and even 141 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: opposing defense, we didn't have an identity on offense. Guess 142 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: what we've got an identity now. We're gonna be an 143 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: outside zone team, a wide zone team where you build 144 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: the keepers and the boots and the play actions off 145 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: of that. But that's gonna be our staple. And there 146 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: is more than enough to go around for these running 147 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: backs as runners and as pass catchers, because that is 148 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: a bigger part of this offense than ours last year, 149 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: using the running backs as Grimms was talking about in 150 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: the screen game in a more traditional way than perhaps 151 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: we did a year ago. Yeah, I think it's Uh, 152 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: it's been interesting to hear some of these coaches and 153 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: the players. You know, we we've really over the last 154 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: four or five weeks, really gotten a little peek behind 155 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: the curtain as to what's going on and how everybody's 156 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: working in sync. And uh going to miss hearing and 157 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: seeing from these guys. You know, it's been it's been 158 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: all virtual. But you know, this is the last week 159 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: of the virtual program and then we're supposed to see 160 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: him at training camp. We just don't know what training 161 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: camp is going to be. And Adam schefter earlier on 162 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: the day on Monday. Uh, with this coming out. With 163 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: training camp schedule to begin next month, the NFL is 164 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: mandating each team developed an infectious disease Emergency Response Plan 165 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: that sets forth the team's protocols for containing an outbreak 166 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: of the coronavirus. According to a memo sent to all teams. 167 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: The memo mandates that teams to buy their organizations into 168 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: tiers that define what personnel can go and what they 169 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: can do, and Tier one would consist of players, code, 170 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: his trainers, physicians, necessary personnel who must have direct access 171 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: to the players. Tier two gm football operations employees, other 172 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: assistant coaches, video personnel, security and other essential personnel who 173 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: may need to be in close proximity to players, and 174 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: other Tier one individuals who may need to access restricted areas. 175 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: And Tier three is operational personnel, in house media and 176 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: broadcast personnel, field manager, transportation providers, individuals who perform a 177 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: central facility, stadium or events services but do not require 178 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: close contact with Tier one officials. Gribble, what do you 179 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: make of the tier program? Uh? Already hearing some things 180 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: that some teams are asking, how we're gonna go about 181 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: doing that, how we're not going to go about doing 182 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: certain things. But the team's gonna have their hands full 183 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: trying to figure this out over the next month. As two, 184 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Who which who fits in which tier? It's gonna be tough. 185 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of a lot of 186 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: egos are gonna have to be checked at the door 187 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: with this. So I mean, it's just because you're gonna 188 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: to be divided up and and it's it's gonna be 189 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: for the best of the organization. And I imagine your 190 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: numbers are going to be limited, uh in each tier 191 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: to whatever the doctors say is necessary. I'm more of 192 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: the opinion, and this is me being just naive. I'm 193 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: just more happy that there's a plan like you're looking 194 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: at at like college football going back, and it doesn't 195 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to implement a plan when you have 196 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: a hundred twenty different plans going on in college football. 197 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just encouraged that it looks like the NFL 198 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: is using all of this time that has been gifted 199 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: to them to get ready, that they're using it to 200 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: come up with creative solutions. So I We're not gonna 201 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: know how this works out until you get there. There's 202 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: gonna there's gonna be positive tests. I mean, as we've 203 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: seen with college football going back, it's it's just how 204 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to handle them. And I think that 205 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: this is another one of those plans put in place 206 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: to just ensure that you can get to the season 207 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: without having an outbreak in your building. Yeah, and look, 208 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: it's all about limiting access and exposure, right, limiting the 209 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: chances of spreading COVID nineteen. So tier one is small. 210 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: It is the team. I mean general you're general manager. 211 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: He's in tier two. So listen anybody who's in Tier 212 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: three or or those and then really the majority of 213 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: the organization is gonna be not tiered whatsoever, and they're 214 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: just not gonna be allowed to be around. So it's 215 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a different way of doing things and running 216 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: and certainly for our office. You know, where you could 217 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: interact with the players, or you could interact with the 218 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: coaching staff as they would walk through all that's over 219 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: with sharing the cafe. That's over with how you're gonna 220 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: go into the building. I'm sure they're gonna have one entrance, 221 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna have another entrance. And I think a lot 222 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: of the bild is just gonna be walled off. Basically, 223 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: you're this is where you are. We'll bring what you 224 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: need here, but you're not gonna interact to try to 225 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: limit the exposure. So I do like what group said 226 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: is that that they have a plan. They're trying to 227 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: implement it, and I know JC Treader on the NFL 228 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: p A side of it is going to be doing 229 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: everything he can to make sure that the players are safe. 230 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, that's it, and 231 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: that's what it's about. It's about keeping the team safe 232 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: so that they can handle their business. And what we're 233 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: gonna learn more and more is as you're seeing a 234 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: lot of these tests at college that you brought up 235 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: grims is a lot of guys have no symptoms and 236 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: so it's this this impacts people of different age groups 237 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: very very differently. And how does that get dealt with 238 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: in the National Football League? And what are the protocols 239 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: for a positive test? Is that a mandatory two weeks? 240 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: These are all the things that are gonna get ironed out, 241 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: I think, And and by the way, it's go time 242 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: to get these things ironed out and agreed upon, because 243 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: we got a month until we're really supposed to be 244 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: starting this stuff. Yeah. The tricky one that you can't 245 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: even plan for, and at the college level is what 246 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: happened in Kansas State. I mean, they tested all the guys, 247 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: no positives. Guys hang out over the weekend, they go 248 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: to a party fourteen guys come back with I mean 249 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: it's just their college kids, that's what they're gonna do. 250 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: And it I mean, the NFL players are not going 251 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: to just stay in the building all day. I mean 252 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna have to leave the building at some point, uh, 253 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: whether it's training camp or during the season. So that's 254 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: why the frequency of testing is going to be so important, 255 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: and just how quick you get those results and hopefully 256 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: that the science catches up to a point where where 257 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: you're testing in a way that that makes it quick 258 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: and you're able to quickly diagnose what's going on and 259 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: take the appropriations. Z You know, we talked about them 260 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: having a plan in place, the league having a plan 261 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: in place, and starting to put that plan in motion, 262 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: but the nfl PA you mentioned it with Trader and company, 263 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: they still have to sign off on it. And so far, 264 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL p A hasn't exactly been jumping 265 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: up and down saying yeah, sure, let's go, We're ready 266 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: to go. It's been a much more conservative approach and 267 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: a very quick response to certain things that the league 268 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: puts out saying well, we really haven't signed off on 269 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: that yet. Absolutely, And as I said J. C. Trader 270 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: is doing a great job representing the players at the 271 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, there are the vast 272 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: majority of play is in the National Football League need 273 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: there to be games, and listen, their safety is paramount 274 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: to that. But they are going to be and they'll 275 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: get to a point where, Okay, here the risks as 276 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: we know them, if you don't want to if you 277 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: don't want to participate, I imagine there might be some 278 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: people who opt out, just potentially like in the NBA, 279 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: but the vast majority these guys are gonna want to participate. 280 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: I think the rosters are gonna be bigger there. We've 281 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: already seen people kind of talk about the exemptions for 282 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: pandemics that are in the in the collective bargaining agreement. 283 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: So they are just trying to get it. This is 284 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: not something that can be perfect, and I think if 285 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: everybody understands that, we're not going to have the perfect 286 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: solution until there's vaccines, So can we put ourselves in 287 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: the best position to succeed and the best positions for 288 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: safety for the players, etcetera. The one thing that I'm 289 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: starting to feel significantly less confident about, not that I 290 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: ever was really confident is fans. I mean, if you 291 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: think about it, this is how a team is being 292 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: structured an organization in terms of the tears and who 293 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: can be around who, How can you have a where 294 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: they can be close enough to the players. It seems 295 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: very difficult to envision that or how that's going to go, 296 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: especially with what we've seen with some of the recent 297 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, spikes, etcetera. But and the other thing is 298 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: a lot of it's gonna be on them as professionals 299 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: to say it is more valuable to me for four 300 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: months to lock it up and lock it down so 301 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: that I don't test positive, so that I can play 302 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: and this league can perform than it is to go 303 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: to a bar. I understand being twenty, I understanding two. 304 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Your worldview is different. These are professionals. A lot of 305 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: these guys are trying to put foot on their table 306 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: for their children. Uh, and so it's gonna take a 307 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: lot of self restraint. It's gonna take everybody involved, their 308 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: families as well. Everybody's gonna have to kind of chip 309 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: in to make this as successful as it can be. Yeah, 310 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: definitely something worth monitoring as we continue to get closer 311 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: to the start of training camp time now to have 312 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: a little fun. The reason why we bring Sigura in 313 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: in the hopes that he and Gribble will butt heads, 314 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: Gribble will and some new takes and everybody will be 315 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: great and we'll be good to go. Uh. You have 316 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: a you have a five on five team that has 317 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: to be comprised of Brown's players, only Brown. Okay um, 318 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: he said, flag football, flag football, flag football. Five players. 319 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: You have to have a quarterback, running back, a wide receiver. 320 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: But then you can have two wild cards. You can 321 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: take two any any two players on the football team. 322 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: Who are you taking on this football team? Gribbs? We 323 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: will start with you. I mean we can obviously say 324 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: we have quarter We already have the quarterback. Am I correct? Everybody? 325 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: We're on board. Baker Mayfield running back? Does anybody not 326 00:15:54,160 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: taking Nick Chubb? Oh? Flag football? You're not running? I 327 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: need plays. You need a guy you could run. You 328 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: need a better receiver. Kareem is a better receiver, better 329 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: route runner. That's what you're looking for. Gribbs. I'm taking cream. 330 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: It was no brainer. Yeah. I didn't think twice about 331 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: that one. I'm the guy that thinks twice about that 332 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: all right, when's the last flag football game you attended? Uh? Boy, 333 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I maybe there was a certain someone 334 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: that works for a radio station here in town here 335 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: and I went and cat called a flag football came 336 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: at Lakewood Stadium a couple of years ago. But that 337 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: was it, and I was probably not sober. I level. 338 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: Flag football is about speed and just getting guys in 339 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: space and hands, speed and hands. Yeah, all right, so 340 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: you're taking so Nick Chubb hasn't been taken. Uh, Gribbs, 341 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: who are you taking at wide receiver? I mean, I'm 342 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: taking three wide receivers, So, I mean, I don't know 343 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: what what we're what we're doing here. I mean I 344 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking. I mean, if I have to power ranked up, 345 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I only need to pick one wide receiver. I'm taking Odell. Uh. 346 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: The combination of a loosis. The fifth spot is a 347 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: wild card, and I'm not going to be taking a 348 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: receiver I haven't quite settled in. I have three names 349 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: that I'm kicking around. Go ahead, GRIBs. I'm sorry, I 350 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: just wanted to all Right, both Nathan's Nathan and I 351 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: have flag football quarterback experience. I have since retired from 352 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: that position and merged into a like a tight end 353 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: uh fullback hybrid, you know for not saying retired. Yeah. 354 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: The key when you're down on the goal line and 355 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: you need to you need to find someone and know 356 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: someone to get open. A lot of it goes down 357 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: to instincts and chemistry. I'm putting Richard Higgins on this 358 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: team with Baker Mayfield. Wow, I think you need that 359 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: reliable option, the guy you know who's going to make 360 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: a move before he even makes it. I'm putting Richard 361 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: Higgins on this team, all right. So here are the 362 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: three names that I'm kicking around, and I'm gonna make 363 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: my my case for all three, and then I guess 364 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: I'll make a final sex. So first one's Denzel Ward. Fast, 365 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: he can actually play defense. Somebody's you got to defend 366 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: the other team, but when they get forgot about defense. 367 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: To pick anybody, That's why I said, you can pick anybody. 368 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: Denzel can play d He's incredibly fast, he's got great hands, 369 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: and I feel like we could figure out the route running. 370 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I believe Denzel Ward could master flag 371 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: football route running in a very short period of time. 372 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: Then I was thinking about Austin Hooper catches everything in 373 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: flag football, you know when you've molded in that hybrid 374 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: tight end roller, like when I had Murph on my 375 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: squad near the goal, and you want that guy, you 376 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: can just get their post stuff. You just throw it 377 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: into him and they catch it. You needed Jason Witten. 378 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: So Austin Hooper, what had the highest catch rate in 379 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: the NFL a year ago. I like that. I've already 380 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: got speed with Kareem Hunt and explosive plays. O'Dell and 381 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: Jarvis can catch everything. And now I have the bigger guy, 382 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: which leads me to my third potential, which is Miles Garrett, 383 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: who's guarding Myles Garrett down near the goal line. Myles 384 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: garretts throwing people away, He's jumping over them. He's a monster. Plus, 385 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: it gives us a little bit of an intimidation factor. 386 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: If we haven't blitz the quarterback one time, I would 387 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: imagine that would make quarterback very uncomfortable. So those are 388 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: the three that I'm kicking around. I think between my 389 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: three pure pass catchers, I have enough in terms of 390 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: Hunt and Odell and Jarvis. So I'm gonna take Austin 391 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: Hooper us at least with Denzel and it leaves with 392 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: Miles Geartt. And while I feel that Denzel might be 393 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: the smarter play in the sense that I can stick 394 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: him on somebody and be like, all right, you try 395 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: to neutralize their best guy, I just think there's something 396 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: about walking on the flag football field of Myles Garrett, 397 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: and I think in the red zone he'd be an 398 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: absolute monster. So I'm gonna take Miles Garrett. See, there's 399 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: a reason why I never even thought about defense. It's 400 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: the defense is meaningless and plank football. It's a team 401 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: that gets the ball last and scores. That's I mean, 402 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's that there's some for intimidation though, 403 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: and you can tour and conversions two point conversion in 404 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: three point conversions, that's all that matters. I wanted some size. 405 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: I've only been a part of one flag football game 406 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: where the winner had less than forty points. It's an 407 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: offensive game, yeah, I mean, it's but to be fair 408 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: to go back to I remember when our general manager 409 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Berry would join our league, and when he was 410 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: playing that single high safety and just run around, which 411 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: where you can put Denzel in. That can wreak a 412 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: lot of havoc, but it takes his one turnover. One 413 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: turnover can be the football. Okay, I'm assuming in this 414 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: flag football league the difference in pedigree and experience is 415 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: not that big on the field as Andrew Berry on 416 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: the same field as nature looks like us. I'm just saying, listen, 417 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: I can sleep, come on. So there's not gonna be 418 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: the Andrew Berry fact the factor because everyone I'm assuming 419 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: in this league is also gonna be NFL players. So then, okay, 420 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: so now we've gone through it, you're sticking with Hollywood 421 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: Higgins over Austin Hooper. I need the chemistry Baker and 422 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: Austin have to to get on the field together a 423 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: little bit more for me, if I'm playing it right now, 424 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of Austin Hooper's kimpst. I think Miles 425 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: Garrett would just be a Miles Garrett and where he 426 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: could just physically dominate people's gonna be a monster in 427 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: the red zone. Uh yeah, I'm taking Miles. Let's go 428 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: all right? All right? So my follow up then is 429 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: taking a look at your five. How many of your 430 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: five are in the top ten players on this football 431 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: team going into as in the most important ten players 432 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: on this Browns team entering the season. I definitely have 433 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: four of them. I have four, so if you're counting 434 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: Kareem you're kind of Kareem Hunt is one of the 435 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: ten most important players, then I have five. I don't 436 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: know that I would count as one of the ten 437 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: most important players go in the season. Baker's numbers one 438 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: through a million, So then we'll start with a million 439 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: one Odell Jarvis Miles. This is not in any order, 440 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to name him. Odell Jarvis Miles, 441 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: uh Denzel Jedrick Jedderic. Yeah, maybe Austin Hooper. Maybe Hunt 442 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: isn't in the top ten. Austin Hooper. I still think 443 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson or Olivia Vernon, they would be in the discussion. 444 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Grant Elbitt or Karl Joseph one of the safeties. Somebody 445 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: at linebacker needs to I don't know they're tem most 446 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: important now, but on the field, we need somebody to 447 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: step up there. I mean, Kareem's awesome. I'm not worried 448 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: about him, and I don't know he's gonna be in 449 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: a top ten roll per se. We have a lot 450 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: of we have a lot of important people on this squad. 451 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: That's why we have a lot of talent. That's why 452 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: there there's some excitement, some buzz, no love for the 453 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: old lineman in this, in this, but Tonio Tredder, They're 454 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: all important com I'm talking about for a flank football. 455 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: We didn't even miss no, not not their game. But 456 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Tonio showed a little a little bit. I just think 457 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: when Hollywood's when and I love Hollywood, when he's matched 458 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: up on Miles Garrett, that's gonna be a big advantage 459 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: for my squad. And I think Miles Miles is pretty 460 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: supreme athlete as far as I've seen. I've seen it 461 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: at leasing anything else. Come on, come on, these midles 462 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: Garrett's what can he do? Have you seen him on 463 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: the basketball court? Would I would? I would use him 464 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: exclusively as a pass rusher. Uh, I would put him, 465 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Miles Garrett of the Lake would Flag 466 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: football league was one Rob mcburnett. Uh, And I would. 467 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I think he Miles would would give him a run, 468 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: I think. And could you imagine if you're trying to 469 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: play court and that guy is running at you without 470 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: blockers because he counted like ten Mississippi's that's gonna cause problems. 471 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: That's gonna cause problems if that's the that's the difference. Though. 472 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: In flight football, you don't have to touch anyone. You 473 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: don't touch anyone. So I would say someone like an 474 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: Odell is just as dangerous rushing the pastor and this 475 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: he's doing this. Look you can't even see right now. 476 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: Look there's nothing there. That's because that's Miles. You can't 477 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: even see. That would be intimidate. I don't want to 478 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: be changed. I feel much better about being chased around 479 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: by Odell knowing that they can't hit me that I 480 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: would by being chased around by Miles a year. All right, 481 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: So I asked how many players in the top ten? 482 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: Who are your top five most important players going into 483 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: We can all agree Baker's number one, Baker, But who's 484 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: after Baker Mayfield? Who's your top five? Gribble will start. 485 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: We'll start with you. I will go with Miles at 486 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: number two. Same. I think we saw what happened to 487 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: the defense when he was gone. It's it was a 488 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: completely different defense. He makes everyone on the feel better 489 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: by being out there. Number my number three in terms 490 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: of importance, just because I think it's just such an 491 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: important position and there's a lot of questions with it. 492 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: I think I'm putting Gendrick Walls number three. He's playing 493 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: left tackle for you, it's a new position, it's Baker's blindside. 494 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot that goes into it, and 495 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: a lot of our optimism on the offensive line stems 496 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: from Jeddrick stepping in and playing the position like we 497 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: think you can. So I think that was one of 498 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: the most, if not the most important move you made 499 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: this entire offseason so that he would be my number three, 500 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: And then I think I'm gonna go with probably Nick 501 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: Chubb at number four. So I had a tough time 502 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: thinking about Nick Chubb just in my while you're doing 503 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: this going through my own list. Is because Nick Chubb 504 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,239 Speaker 1: is so important, He's gonna be the focus of what 505 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: we do on offense. But at the same time, if 506 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: you were to lose Nick Chubb, there's no better backup 507 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: that you possibly have than Kareem Hunt. So, like, this 508 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: offense could be a juggernaut sans Nick Chubb, even though 509 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb is pure greatness. Well, and that's why I 510 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: want to like, I'd like to include, like, if we're 511 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: talking about importance in terms of how you need him 512 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: to step. I mean, like you have to start talking 513 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: about someone like mack Wilson in the in this top 514 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: part of the list. I mean you need a linebacker 515 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: to really emerge, and he seems like the best one 516 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: to really emerge. But I love Jarvis and O'Dell together. 517 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: They might be my number five. I mean they're your tandem, sir. 518 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: You saw it like the Vikings last year. That's when 519 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: they were at their best, is when both their guys 520 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: were functioning. And I think we saw it last year. 521 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: If if both of them are healthy and able to 522 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: produce in a system that brings the best album, I 523 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: think that is part of your identity offensively. So yeah, 524 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: by that means, I mean I might have to bump 525 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb out of my top five that argument, and 526 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: have two defensive guys in there with Miles and mack Wilson, uh, 527 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: and then Jarvis, O'Dell and Baker. I like. I like that. 528 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: I think jed Rick's in there. I'll instead of Mac, 529 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Grant Delpit just because I think 530 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: if we can get a playmaker, I feel pretty good 531 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: about our corners. If we can get up that playmaker 532 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: at safety that he showed, you know in two thousand 533 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: and eight ten l S. I think he changes our 534 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: defense completely completely, sacks, interceptions, tackles for lost ask breakups, 535 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: can cover anybody on the field. He has a chance 536 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: to be. I think he's one of the most important pieces. 537 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Him hitting all of a sudden, we could have a 538 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: really good defense. Yeah, let's hope. Let's hope. Carl Joseph too. 539 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: I think you need one of those two guys to 540 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: be the stud that they were projected to be and called. Josephs, 541 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: by the way, played great the last two years before injuries. 542 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: Have heard him in Oakland, uh and then del put 543 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: As we know Scott all the talent in the world, 544 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: it's really all about Baker though. I mean there's a 545 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Baker at Baker is good. This year, we're gonna be 546 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: really good, and I think he will be. The prognosticators 547 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: would tend to agree. We'll see, we'll see how it 548 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: all plays out training camp about a month and change away. 549 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: Knock on wood. That's gonna wrap up episode number thirty 550 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: three of the BP. A special thanks to Nathan Zigura 551 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: for his time. Jeff McDaniel back from vacation appreciate his time. 552 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: As always, we are back with you on Thursday or 553 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Meet the Assistant Coaches. Segments continue. There's a Girl'll be 554 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: back next week as we wrap up the virtual offseason. 555 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: We'll come up with some virtual offseason awards, so we'll 556 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: have a little fun with that. 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