WEBVTT - All About the Apple iPad 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:02.880 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:09.000 It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:17.720 tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello, everyone, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.680 welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Pollette, and 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.119 I am the tech editor here at how stuff works 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.000 dot com. And across from me sitting in his usual 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.480 seat sipping some tea as senior writer Jonathan Strickland, Welcome 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:34.880 to the Technology podcast that's out of this world. Okay, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:36.920 then that's gonna make no sense to you because you 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.320 didn't hear what we were talking about immediately before we 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.159 hit record. At least I hope you didn't. Yeah, I 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.199 hope that's really up to Liz. Let's start this this 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:55.000 appolicious episode with a little listener mail list. Listener mail 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.120 comes from Chris k r I s Chris says, I 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.440 just wanted to see you what you would say about 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.000 at Jason pranking the Twitter world about the iPad just 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.679 to get an extra twenty thou followers. Is it immoral 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.000 or against some code of the Internet? Also, do you 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.479 still think the iPad is too awkward a form factor 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:19.640 or worth buying? Chris? Well, Chris, um, we'll get into 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.640 what Jason calicanas, which is that's the person behind at 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.319 Jason what he did a little bit later. But first 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.280 we're gonna talk about the iPad, something that everyone has 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.480 been talking about ever since Apple first unveiled it on Well, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.119 it was just two days before we started recording this podcast. 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:41.560 That's true. That's true. Um, that would be January A 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:49.680 Wednesday and Wednesday. And Apple has a tendency to not 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.960 tell you what's coming up at their announcements, but making 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:57.880 this sort of veiled reference with graphics and and you know, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:02.000 some sort of tagline tagline. Basically, they see our latest 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.000 creation was the tagline and had lots of splashy colors 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.480 on the hand of the invite. And uh, but everybody 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.440 sort of knew what was going to go on because 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.679 for weeks beforehand, if you're tuning in very late, and uh, 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.320 this is all old news to you. Uh, we've been 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.720 talking about the possibility that Apple was going to come 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.720 out with a tablet computer of some sort. Now you 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.959 say weeks, but in reality we're talking years. Well, it's true, yeah, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.000 I mean this is something that's been going on for 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:35.320 many years. Okay, So I remember last year that nine 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.360 that there were rumors when Steve Jobs was going to 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.800 return to Apple, because he took a medical leave starting 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.000 in in the beginning of the year. Uh, there were 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.960 rumors that when he would return, he would return also 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.480 with the announcement of this tablet device, which had already 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.800 been in the the rumor mill for quite some time 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.560 at that point. Oh so this is more than six 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:02.040 months ago. And the first of all, Steve Jobs did 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.560 not appear at the press release that everyone thought he 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.239 was gonna appear in back in June. Um, he remained 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.799 off stage. And then second of all, Uh, there was 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.239 no mention of the tablet. And then there was another 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.200 Apple event mentioned announced for September of two thousand nine. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.760 Again everyone went bonkers, thinking that the tablet. This has 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.120 got to be it. This is when they're going to 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.799 finally announce this tablet thing, whatever it may be. Uh. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.760 But of course that was an iPod event. It was 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.760 all about their ipodline and updates to it, had nothing 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.800 to do with the tablet. They made no mention of it. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.600 And uh, there were rumors coming out that Okay, well, 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.400 they're gonna announce it sometime in February of two thousand 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:47.200 TENU at the beginning of two thousand ten Apple there 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:48.920 were rumors that Apple is going to hold an event 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.520 at the end of January and that that would finally 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.640 be when we hear about the tablet. And as the 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.520 end of January neared, first it was confirmed that yes, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.920 indeed they were going to hold an event, and then 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.880 it became pretty much a certainty among most people on 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.080 the Internet that they were, in fact, and I mentioned 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.040 some sort of tablet device, and uh, I was kind 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.080 of hoping that they wouldn't, just to see what would happen. Yeah. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.599 That that that there is sort of a almost like thing. Yeah, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.840 sort of a letdown that they actually announced what they 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.720 everyone thought that they were announced, But it was the 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.760 iPad that they announced, which uh, some people have referred 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:29.240 to as an oversized iPod Touch. I think, even even 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.159 though I am personally skeptical of this device and the 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:35.839 usefulness of this device, I think that's not entirely fair. Actually, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.960 I think that it is unfair to classify it as 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.200 a giant iPod Touch is definitely more than that. But 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.120 I can see why people would be tempted to call 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.960 it that, because after two years of speculation, I'm pretty 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.479 sure that any device Apple unveiled, no matter how amazing 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:56.599 it was, was bound to disappoint people because after two years, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.800 I mean, how can you live up to that kind 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.359 of anticipation. Un Us it had a direct line to 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.599 heaven and could make you milkshakes, I'm pretty sure that 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.000 you're going to be disappointed and on some level, no 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.840 matter what it did. Okay, Well, since I actually wrote 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.520 a blog post about this a few days ago, the 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.520 day of the it's released, And uh, before we go further, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.320 one don't I since since I, since I'm the writer, 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.520 I can plagiarize myself, why don't I just tell you 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.800 what it is and what it can do? Hit me 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.000 and then we can actually talk about what it means. 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.640 Sounds okay. So it's it's half an inch thin and 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.840 weighs one point five pounds. UM. It's got a nine 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:40.520 point seven inch in plane switching ips backlit led display. UM. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.640 It's got a proprietary Apple design one gigga Hurts processor 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.520 that runs a version of the iPhone OS, and it 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.800 can run i've Touch and iPhone applications without modifying them, 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.800 although developers can write new versions of those applications that 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.400 take advantage of the larger screen size. Um. You can 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.920 watch movies on it. You can watch TV shows on it. YouTube. 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.080 It's got the YouTube app, so you can watch videos 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.520 from YouTube on it. You can listen to music. Hey, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.480 you know that's a giant iPod touch. Um has an 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.560 iTunes app on it. Yep. Uh, so that means you 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.960 can download and listen to music on i Tunes. You 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:23.040 and other content podcasts. Um. You can read e books 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.160 on it. There's an application that they put on there 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:27.919 called e Books that will allow you to read books 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.400 from a number of different publishers. It's got a very 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.720 slick in our face. Yes. Yes, it looks sort of 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.799 like Bookshow. Actually it looks a little bit like Delicious 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.279 Library for the Mac. You've ever seen that application? Um? 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:44.400 And Apple has time deals with publishers including Hashett, HarperCollins, McMillan, Penguin, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:49.000 and Simon and Schuster. Um. It has built in WiFi 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.920 but uh and Bluetooth, but if you want three G 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.880 connectivity you have to pay on it and thirty dollars 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.560 extra for that. And it's uh it's a O two 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:02.600 dot eleven in Yeah, that's what said on the okay Yeah, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.400 which is actually a a faster and uh has longer 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:10.640 range than the previous versions. Um, and let's see, there 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.720 is a doc If you want it, you can dock 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.280 it and attach it to your your you know, basically 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.280 set it up so that it functions like a laptop 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.440 screen in front of you. And you can buy a keyboard. 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.640 Although it doesn't come with a keyboard, it's it inform factory. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.720 It actually does look very much like the iPod Touch 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.920 because it's got a virtual keyword on the screen. Button 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.240 is the one, you know, the round button and I 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.400 guess the power on off. But I do maintain that 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.360 the on screen keyboard is awkward if you're going to 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.600 do extensive data entry. If you're just typing a couple 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:43.520 of notes in or whatever, it's not so bad. Um. Otherwise, Uh, 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.560 if I were to own this device, I would probably 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.800 want the the keyboard accessory. If I were ever planning on, say, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.360 composing an email longer than two sentences, I would probably 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.200 want that, just because, uh, it's I find it very 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.120 irritating to use on screen keyboards. I'm just I'm a 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.480 very fast type and it's frustrating to get slowed down 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:06.000 to that level. Well, speaking of productivity, In addition to 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.360 App Store apps, Apple is offering a version of its 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.880 I work software which includes Pages which is the word 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.320 process or Keynote, which is a you know, presentation software, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:22.680 and numbers, a spreadsheet program. Uh. For each um and 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.040 UM there are three different versions sixteen gigabytes, thirty two gigabytes, 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.680 and sixty four gigabytes of space. Uh, they go four 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.120 and that's for the WiFi only. If you want the 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.800 three g ad hundred and thirty dollars each. On top 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:42.120 of that, now the three g's only gonna that's you 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.320 have to wait an extra month, and you also have 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.240 to pay for an a T and T contract for 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.600 thirty dollars a month for not at it's a non 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:55.000 contract paid, so you prepay however many months you want. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.160 And uh, it's fifteen dollars or we're up to two 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.280 and fifty megaby it's of data for a month, or 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:07.440 thirty dollars for what they're calling unlimited. I'm saying what 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.480 they're calling unlimited because in in many of these cases 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.120 you later find out that what is referred to as 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.720 unlimited ends up being very very limited, or at least 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.559 there's a cap, which means that it's not really unlimited, UM, 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.839 but I don't know the details behind that. At any rate, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.080 it's thirty dollars a month and you do prepay, and 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.760 it's not a contract. And I also found out today 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:34.400 that I Books uses UM the accelerometer built in to 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.640 the device, so that you can read books in landscape 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.800 or portrait mode. UM. But if you were interested in 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.640 buying books through the online bookstore that Apple has set 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.840 up with all these publishers, you have to be in 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.320 the United States, because currently the licensing agreements do not 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.040 permit you to buy stuff outside the United States at 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.360 this time. Well, and we knew that Apple had been 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:00.280 really pushing to make deals with publishers leading up to 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:03.880 this announcement. So this is still early days yet. And 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:07.320 maybe that by the time these these devices launch that 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.960 there will be much more comprehensive deals in place. So 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.600 by the time you buy one of these things, or 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.040 you're able to buy one of these things, that that 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.440 problem may be solved. We don't know yet, right right, UM, 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.080 And I have a quote for you, Jonathan, because I'm 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.240 just waiting to see what you say. I probably take 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.120 a good ten minute break after this. UM, You're you're 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:31.520 familiar with Nicholas Carr, the technology writer. Yes, he actually 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.200 wrote the blog post and inspired are the article that 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.360 I wrote for the site called way are how the 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:42.600 Apple Google uh Cloud computer will work? Um. He wrote 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.200 a post for NPR National Public Radio on the website, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.760 and here's a quote from him. I'm just explaining in 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.320 case no one else is right, especially for people who 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.440 who are outside the United States. I'm trying to brace myself. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.320 The PC era ended yesterday morning at ten o'clock Pacific time, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.880 when Steve Jobs stepped onto a stand in Francisco stage 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:05.800 to unveil the iPad, Apple's version of a tablet computer. Alright, folks, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.880 dress yourselves in. I want to have a little bit 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:11.920 of discussion with Mr Carr here. Mr Carr, I greatly 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.480 respect you. You You are a very intelligent person, probably more 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.280 intelligent than I am. I'm gonna go take a break. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:24.600 Could you give me some sandwich? Um, So, before I 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.480 get into it and and explain exactly how much I 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.960 disagree with that statement, which is completely I'll just go 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.440 and say that I completely disagree with that statement. Well, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.640 he actually softens it. I just wanted to quote him 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.199 on that one. Excellent, but actually go read the post 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.880 because it really is kind of interesting. Okay, So so 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.600 I shouldn't just judge the whole thing by that one quote, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.520 but I but I wanted to an example of what 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.960 a lot of people are saying. Yeah, because it's there's 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.800 so much hype behind it, I think it's I think 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.280 it's definitely too premature to say that. Um So, here 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.199 here a couple of other things we should add before 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.200 we I really get into it. One, the battery life 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:04.480 around ten hours. And that's even if you're watching video. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.880 According to what they said at the press release it 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.360 you could get ten hours of video on this thing, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:13.600 which is a video is a is a very demanding applications. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:18.200 So if that's true, that's pretty impressive. I'm be very 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.080 surprised to see that. Now we have to remember that 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.839 often the actual battery life tends to be a little 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:28.640 different from what the advertised battery life is. But let's 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.160 just go ahead and assume that that's that's true. Um 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.560 here are some things that does not have right now 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.440 as of the recording of this podcast. Now, this could 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.920 all change by the time it launches, well not all 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.200 of it, but some of it. Um it does not 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.359 have the ability to multitask, you can't run multiple applications 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.960 at the same time. I would argue that alone invalidates 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:54.480 Mr Carr's statement. Well, I I okay, before we go 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.640 and you um jump, since you haven't actually read this, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.920 I will. I will tell you why he said this. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.320 He said that the tablet, and in launching the iPad, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:09.319 Apple has created the missing piece of the non PC 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.880 segment that's basically shattered it into all the little pieces now, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:19.920 such as on the smaller end smartphones, smart books, netbooks, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.880 and now the tablet in between. He said, basically, people 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.760 don't really necessarily need a PC. You will find a 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.720 a kind. You will find something in that spectrum that 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.520 if you want to take your laptop with you, you 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.560 no longer need something that large. You have something in 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.719 between a desktop and a smartphone occurring to use that 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:43.440 still has me Okay, cool, excellent. I just want to 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:49.199 declare I understand his reasoning. Uh. First of all, I 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.800 would argue that one, the tablet form factor is not new. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.559 It's been around for years, more than two decades really, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.600 or around two decades, I would say, And so therefore, 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.040 if something has been around for twenty years and it 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.160 has not revolutionized the technology industry. It may very well 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.920 be that it's not. You know, it's a it's an 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.600 also ran anyway, um, because the tablet is neither fish 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.680 nor foul. It is not a smartphone. It is not 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:18.760 a computer. The tablet, the iPad specifically, cannot really exist 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.520 as its own standalone computing device. Uh. You can run 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.280 a lot of a little cool apps on it, which 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.040 are great. And I don't mean to dismiss the apps 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.240 when I say little cool apps. They do generally tend 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:35.400 to be less complex and less demanding than full computer programs, 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.800 but many of them are incredibly innovative and very useful. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.160 I have apps on my smartphone and I love them. Um. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.200 At the same time, I don't confuse them with fully 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:51.440 fledged computer applications, so you can't run those. You essentially 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.760 need a computer to sink your iPad too on occasion, 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.040 so you can't just get away with having the iPad 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.560 as your primary computing device. You can't use it to 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.000 make calls like you can with a smartphone, so you 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:11.400 can't have it replaced that what Well, now that they've 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.960 unblocked using v I P on three G networks, you 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.280 could make that just happened yesterday. You can use some 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.440 vope technology, this is true, but if they don't want 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.520 using the Skype application, if you used a plugable, you know, 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.520 a third party microphone, I'm I'm wondering, why would you 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.320 do it? Why? Why would you do it? That's a 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.760 that's a better question. Yeah, because it doesn't like if 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.640 you happen to have it sitting around, then sure you 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.120 can pick it up and make a phone call. But otherwise, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.120 I mean, you're not going to carry this thing around 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.480 with you to to make It's not going to replace 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.600 a smartphone. And then there's the quality of voipe calls, 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:52.960 which and as Chris makes his point, uh, I will continue. Um, 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.120 so there's no camera yet that might come out on 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.760 a future edition of the iPad. Bet that will happen. 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.880 But with no camera you can't do things like video conferencing, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.240 which to me was seemed crazy because they showed him 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.280 the press release a really cool use of it as 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:15.160 a presentation device, where they showed how how the presentation 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.680 the Keynote presentation software works on the iPad, and it 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:24.000 was legitimately impressive. It looked slick, it was intuitive. I 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.320 thought it was really well done. But if you're going 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.280 to create something that does something that well, you're suggesting 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.320 essentially to your audience, Hey, this is a great business tool. 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.040 If you don't put a camera in there where you 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.440 can do video conferencing, it's not really a great business tool. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.440 It's an incomplete business tool, just as I would argue 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:44.720 it's an incomplete everything tool. I called it earlier while 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.320 I was in the office, and I think this this 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.960 holds water. I think the iPad is the perfect tool 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.480 to browse the web. If we were talking about web 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.880 one point oh web one point out. What I mean 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.760 by that is it doesn't really ultimately mean anything and 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.880 some marketing term, but but in general, what I mean 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:08.400 is the old style websites where you consumed the content 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.840 that was there, but you didn't contribute to it. You 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:12.880 would go to a website, you would read what was there, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:14.800 and then you would leave, and that's all there was 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.880 to it. You might go to websites now and watch 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.880 a couple of videos and leave, and that's all there 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.440 is to it. But a lot of the websites out 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.400 there today are what we would refer to as web 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.280 two point oh sites where contribution and participation is a 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.800 major factor of browsing, and I argue that the iPad 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:35.440 and it's on screen keyboard device is not the most 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.840 useful if you want to do a lot of contributing 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.120 while you're on the web. And I don't know about 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:42.920 anyone else. I mean, there are probably plenty of people 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.960 out there who all they do is consume stuff on 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.439 the web. They don't necessarily participate in discussions or anything 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.359 like that. For them, this device might be perfect, and 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.639 I won't argue against that. I think if it works 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.360 for your lifestyle, great by one, by as many as 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:01.520 you like. But for people who do lots of participation 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:05.000 across the web, I think trying to use this as 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.439 your your main device, or even as a supplemental device 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.440 that you're using while you're like sitting on the couch 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.399 or whatever, will ultimately be frustrating, just because it's too 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.320 hard to input data and into something that kind of 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.920 requires two hands. And uh, I mean, when you think 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.480 about it, you're typing on the same surface that you're 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.840 looking at. So you're either typing on it by holding 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.639 it in one hand and using the other hand to 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.320 peck out words, or you're gonna have to put it 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.320 on your lap or on a tabletop or something and 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.640 try and type with two hands, uh that way, which 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.360 is why I argue that you can't really do extensive 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.240 data entry. That's why I call it the web. One 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:47.080 point of a web browser jobs when he got up there, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:51.800 said that netbooks don't do anything well. They do lots 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.560 of stuff, but they don't do anything well, including web browsing. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.399 I argue that netbooks are superior to the tablet in 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.000 the web browsing experience simply because it's easier to type 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.560 stuff in. It may not be as slick and interface, 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.560 but they're going to be able to do things that 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.359 you can't do with the tablet or the iPad. I 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.200 should say, I keep calling it the tablet because that's 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.760 what we've been calling it for years, but the iPad. Um. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.719 That's not to say the iPad is a bad device. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.080 I think it looks beautiful. I think the stuff it 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.200 does it does pretty well. Um, I think the stuff 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:28.760 it doesn't do is pretty damning because there are other 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.400 devices out on the market that do those things. There's 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.240 an Android tablet that's in the works that does all 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.800 the stuff that you think the tablet. The iPad should 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:41.440 be able to do. Um. Will it be successful? Probably not. 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.199 I don't think so. I think the iPad, despite all 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.320 the things that I find wrong with it, is going 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.400 to be incredibly successful. I also think that the people 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.439 who buy one three months after they buy it are 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.280 gonna set it down and forget that they have it, 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.320 because it's just not gonna be instrumental in their daily lives, 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.760 and it'll just be a cool piece of technology that 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:07.119 doesn't get used very much. All right, now, what I 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.760 also want to say, kid kidding, you've heard me rant 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.320 for like seven eight minutes straight. Chris actually left he Um, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:22.400 he's brought back Arby's so rosecuef Tyler, nothing says Nothing 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:27.560 says iPad like a cartoner Curly fries. Um. Well, I 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.520 think I think the funny thing about the iPad is 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.600 that it's actually about tablet computers in general. It's it's 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.119 more of a niche thing, and I think that Apple's 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.760 loaning Apple's name and interface to it suddenly makes it 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.600 a consumer thing where it really probably should have been before, 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.600 but nobody really wanted to mess with it. I've seen 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.680 them used in a lot of cases. Um, you know, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:51.240 there are lots and lots of tablets used in the 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.200 medical industry right because they're really handy for artists use 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.399 various kinds of tablets, and architects use various kinds of tablets. 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.640 There are a lot of many good reasons to use them. 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:03.360 Um And like you said, it hasn't really broken into 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:07.640 the consumer market. I think partly because as convenient as 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:09.919 a tablet is, it's really convenient if you keep it 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:13.200 in your house. You know, it's not necessarily the convenient 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.560 device that you take with you on the go because 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.880 it's about the same size as a netbook. It's it's 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.960 not as thick as a netbook, it's not as heavy 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:25.119 as a netbook. But you're gonna need a bag about 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.520 the size of a netbook bag to carry this thing 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.040 around it and the protective case so that you don't 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.199 get any scratches on that screen, that gorgeous screen. You 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.640 don't want that to get all scratched up. So, yeah, 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:41.000 the the it's it's just not as portable as what 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.800 It's not portable enough to be a big enough draw 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.359 compared to a netbook. In my opinion, Now, I do 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.640 think there is a market for this. I think there 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.320 are people who will think this is really cool and 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:57.200 they'll buy one and they'll be very pleased with it. UM. 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.280 I think people along my line of thought just don't 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.000 see a place like if I want to watch a movie, 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:07.040 then I'm gonna either watch it on my computer on 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:11.600 my DVD player or through Roku on my television, um, 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.600 or I'll hook up a computer to my TV and 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.200 watch it that way. But for people who don't have 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.040 that kind of level of comfort with technology, this is 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.879