1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello, everyone, 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Pollette, and 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: I am the tech editor here at how stuff works 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: dot com. And across from me sitting in his usual 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: seat sipping some tea as senior writer Jonathan Strickland, Welcome 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: to the Technology podcast that's out of this world. Okay, 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: then that's gonna make no sense to you because you 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: didn't hear what we were talking about immediately before we 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: hit record. At least I hope you didn't. Yeah, I 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: hope that's really up to Liz. Let's start this this 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: appolicious episode with a little listener mail list. Listener mail 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: comes from Chris k r I s Chris says, I 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: just wanted to see you what you would say about 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: at Jason pranking the Twitter world about the iPad just 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: to get an extra twenty thou followers. Is it immoral 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: or against some code of the Internet? Also, do you 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: still think the iPad is too awkward a form factor 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: or worth buying? Chris? Well, Chris, um, we'll get into 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: what Jason calicanas, which is that's the person behind at 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: Jason what he did a little bit later. But first 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the iPad, something that everyone has 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: been talking about ever since Apple first unveiled it on Well, 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: it was just two days before we started recording this podcast. 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Um, that would be January A 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Wednesday. And Apple has a tendency to not 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: tell you what's coming up at their announcements, but making 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: this sort of veiled reference with graphics and and you know, 30 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: some sort of tagline tagline. Basically, they see our latest 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: creation was the tagline and had lots of splashy colors 32 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: on the hand of the invite. And uh, but everybody 33 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: sort of knew what was going to go on because 34 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: for weeks beforehand, if you're tuning in very late, and uh, 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: this is all old news to you. Uh, we've been 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: talking about the possibility that Apple was going to come 37 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: out with a tablet computer of some sort. Now you 38 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: say weeks, but in reality we're talking years. Well, it's true, yeah, 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean this is something that's been going on for 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: many years. Okay, So I remember last year that nine 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: that there were rumors when Steve Jobs was going to 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: return to Apple, because he took a medical leave starting 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: in in the beginning of the year. Uh, there were 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: rumors that when he would return, he would return also 45 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: with the announcement of this tablet device, which had already 46 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: been in the the rumor mill for quite some time 47 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: at that point. Oh so this is more than six 48 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: months ago. And the first of all, Steve Jobs did 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: not appear at the press release that everyone thought he 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: was gonna appear in back in June. Um, he remained 51 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: off stage. And then second of all, Uh, there was 52 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: no mention of the tablet. And then there was another 53 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Apple event mentioned announced for September of two thousand nine. 54 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Again everyone went bonkers, thinking that the tablet. This has 55 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: got to be it. This is when they're going to 56 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: finally announce this tablet thing, whatever it may be. Uh. 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: But of course that was an iPod event. It was 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: all about their ipodline and updates to it, had nothing 59 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: to do with the tablet. They made no mention of it. 60 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: And uh, there were rumors coming out that Okay, well, 61 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna announce it sometime in February of two thousand 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: TENU at the beginning of two thousand ten Apple there 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: were rumors that Apple is going to hold an event 64 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: at the end of January and that that would finally 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: be when we hear about the tablet. And as the 66 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: end of January neared, first it was confirmed that yes, 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: indeed they were going to hold an event, and then 68 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: it became pretty much a certainty among most people on 69 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: the Internet that they were, in fact, and I mentioned 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: some sort of tablet device, and uh, I was kind 71 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: of hoping that they wouldn't, just to see what would happen. Yeah. 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: That that that there is sort of a almost like thing. Yeah, 73 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: sort of a letdown that they actually announced what they 74 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: everyone thought that they were announced, But it was the 75 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: iPad that they announced, which uh, some people have referred 76 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: to as an oversized iPod Touch. I think, even even 77 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: though I am personally skeptical of this device and the 78 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: usefulness of this device, I think that's not entirely fair. Actually, 79 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: I think that it is unfair to classify it as 80 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: a giant iPod Touch is definitely more than that. But 81 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I can see why people would be tempted to call 82 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: it that, because after two years of speculation, I'm pretty 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: sure that any device Apple unveiled, no matter how amazing 84 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: it was, was bound to disappoint people because after two years, 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how can you live up to that kind 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: of anticipation. Un Us it had a direct line to 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: heaven and could make you milkshakes, I'm pretty sure that 88 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be disappointed and on some level, no 89 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: matter what it did. Okay, Well, since I actually wrote 90 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: a blog post about this a few days ago, the 91 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: day of the it's released, And uh, before we go further, 92 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: one don't I since since I, since I'm the writer, 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I can plagiarize myself, why don't I just tell you 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: what it is and what it can do? Hit me 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: and then we can actually talk about what it means. 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: Sounds okay. So it's it's half an inch thin and 97 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: weighs one point five pounds. UM. It's got a nine 98 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: point seven inch in plane switching ips backlit led display. UM. 99 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: It's got a proprietary Apple design one gigga Hurts processor 100 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: that runs a version of the iPhone OS, and it 101 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: can run i've Touch and iPhone applications without modifying them, 102 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: although developers can write new versions of those applications that 103 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: take advantage of the larger screen size. Um. You can 104 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: watch movies on it. You can watch TV shows on it. YouTube. 105 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: It's got the YouTube app, so you can watch videos 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: from YouTube on it. You can listen to music. Hey, 107 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: you know that's a giant iPod touch. Um has an 108 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: iTunes app on it. Yep. Uh, so that means you 109 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: can download and listen to music on i Tunes. You 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: and other content podcasts. Um. You can read e books 111 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: on it. There's an application that they put on there 112 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: called e Books that will allow you to read books 113 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: from a number of different publishers. It's got a very 114 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: slick in our face. Yes. Yes, it looks sort of 115 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 1: like Bookshow. Actually it looks a little bit like Delicious 116 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: Library for the Mac. You've ever seen that application? Um? 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: And Apple has time deals with publishers including Hashett, HarperCollins, McMillan, Penguin, 118 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: and Simon and Schuster. Um. It has built in WiFi 119 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: but uh and Bluetooth, but if you want three G 120 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: connectivity you have to pay on it and thirty dollars 121 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: extra for that. And it's uh it's a O two 122 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: dot eleven in Yeah, that's what said on the okay Yeah, 123 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: which is actually a a faster and uh has longer 124 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: range than the previous versions. Um, and let's see, there 125 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: is a doc If you want it, you can dock 126 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: it and attach it to your your you know, basically 127 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: set it up so that it functions like a laptop 128 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: screen in front of you. And you can buy a keyboard. 129 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Although it doesn't come with a keyboard, it's it inform factory. 130 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: It actually does look very much like the iPod Touch 131 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: because it's got a virtual keyword on the screen. Button 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: is the one, you know, the round button and I 133 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: guess the power on off. But I do maintain that 134 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: the on screen keyboard is awkward if you're going to 135 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: do extensive data entry. If you're just typing a couple 136 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: of notes in or whatever, it's not so bad. Um. Otherwise, Uh, 137 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: if I were to own this device, I would probably 138 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: want the the keyboard accessory. If I were ever planning on, say, 139 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: composing an email longer than two sentences, I would probably 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: want that, just because, uh, it's I find it very 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: irritating to use on screen keyboards. I'm just I'm a 142 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: very fast type and it's frustrating to get slowed down 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: to that level. Well, speaking of productivity, In addition to 144 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: App Store apps, Apple is offering a version of its 145 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: I work software which includes Pages which is the word 146 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: process or Keynote, which is a you know, presentation software, 147 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: and numbers, a spreadsheet program. Uh. For each um and 148 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: UM there are three different versions sixteen gigabytes, thirty two gigabytes, 149 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: and sixty four gigabytes of space. Uh, they go four 150 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: and that's for the WiFi only. If you want the 151 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: three g ad hundred and thirty dollars each. On top 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: of that, now the three g's only gonna that's you 153 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: have to wait an extra month, and you also have 154 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: to pay for an a T and T contract for 155 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: thirty dollars a month for not at it's a non 156 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: contract paid, so you prepay however many months you want. 157 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: And uh, it's fifteen dollars or we're up to two 158 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: and fifty megaby it's of data for a month, or 159 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: thirty dollars for what they're calling unlimited. I'm saying what 160 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: they're calling unlimited because in in many of these cases 161 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: you later find out that what is referred to as 162 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: unlimited ends up being very very limited, or at least 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: there's a cap, which means that it's not really unlimited, UM, 164 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: but I don't know the details behind that. At any rate, 165 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: it's thirty dollars a month and you do prepay, and 166 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: it's not a contract. And I also found out today 167 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: that I Books uses UM the accelerometer built in to 168 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: the device, so that you can read books in landscape 169 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: or portrait mode. UM. But if you were interested in 170 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: buying books through the online bookstore that Apple has set 171 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: up with all these publishers, you have to be in 172 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: the United States, because currently the licensing agreements do not 173 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: permit you to buy stuff outside the United States at 174 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: this time. Well, and we knew that Apple had been 175 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: really pushing to make deals with publishers leading up to 176 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: this announcement. So this is still early days yet. And 177 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: maybe that by the time these these devices launch that 178 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: there will be much more comprehensive deals in place. So 179 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: by the time you buy one of these things, or 180 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: you're able to buy one of these things, that that 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: problem may be solved. We don't know yet, right right, UM, 182 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: And I have a quote for you, Jonathan, because I'm 183 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: just waiting to see what you say. I probably take 184 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: a good ten minute break after this. UM, You're you're 185 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: familiar with Nicholas Carr, the technology writer. Yes, he actually 186 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: wrote the blog post and inspired are the article that 187 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: I wrote for the site called way are how the 188 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Apple Google uh Cloud computer will work? Um. He wrote 189 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: a post for NPR National Public Radio on the website, 190 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: and here's a quote from him. I'm just explaining in 191 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: case no one else is right, especially for people who 192 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: who are outside the United States. I'm trying to brace myself. 193 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: The PC era ended yesterday morning at ten o'clock Pacific time, 194 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: when Steve Jobs stepped onto a stand in Francisco stage 195 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: to unveil the iPad, Apple's version of a tablet computer. Alright, folks, 196 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: dress yourselves in. I want to have a little bit 197 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: of discussion with Mr Carr here. Mr Carr, I greatly 198 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: respect you. You You are a very intelligent person, probably more 199 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: intelligent than I am. I'm gonna go take a break. 200 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Could you give me some sandwich? Um, So, before I 201 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: get into it and and explain exactly how much I 202 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: disagree with that statement, which is completely I'll just go 203 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: and say that I completely disagree with that statement. Well, 204 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: he actually softens it. I just wanted to quote him 205 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: on that one. Excellent, but actually go read the post 206 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: because it really is kind of interesting. Okay, So so 207 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: I shouldn't just judge the whole thing by that one quote, 208 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: but I but I wanted to an example of what 209 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying. Yeah, because it's there's 210 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: so much hype behind it, I think it's I think 211 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: it's definitely too premature to say that. Um So, here 212 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: here a couple of other things we should add before 213 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: we I really get into it. One, the battery life 214 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: around ten hours. And that's even if you're watching video. 215 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: According to what they said at the press release it 216 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: you could get ten hours of video on this thing, 217 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: which is a video is a is a very demanding applications. 218 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: So if that's true, that's pretty impressive. I'm be very 219 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: surprised to see that. Now we have to remember that 220 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: often the actual battery life tends to be a little 221 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: different from what the advertised battery life is. But let's 222 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: just go ahead and assume that that's that's true. Um 223 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: here are some things that does not have right now 224 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: as of the recording of this podcast. Now, this could 225 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: all change by the time it launches, well not all 226 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: of it, but some of it. Um it does not 227 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,359 Speaker 1: have the ability to multitask, you can't run multiple applications 228 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: at the same time. I would argue that alone invalidates 229 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: Mr Carr's statement. Well, I I okay, before we go 230 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: and you um jump, since you haven't actually read this, 231 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: I will. I will tell you why he said this. 232 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: He said that the tablet, and in launching the iPad, 233 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: Apple has created the missing piece of the non PC 234 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: segment that's basically shattered it into all the little pieces now, 235 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: such as on the smaller end smartphones, smart books, netbooks, 236 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: and now the tablet in between. He said, basically, people 237 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: don't really necessarily need a PC. You will find a 238 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: a kind. You will find something in that spectrum that 239 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: if you want to take your laptop with you, you 240 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: no longer need something that large. You have something in 241 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: between a desktop and a smartphone occurring to use that 242 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: still has me Okay, cool, excellent. I just want to 243 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: declare I understand his reasoning. Uh. First of all, I 244 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: would argue that one, the tablet form factor is not new. 245 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: It's been around for years, more than two decades really, 246 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: or around two decades, I would say, And so therefore, 247 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: if something has been around for twenty years and it 248 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: has not revolutionized the technology industry. It may very well 249 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: be that it's not. You know, it's a it's an 250 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: also ran anyway, um, because the tablet is neither fish 251 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: nor foul. It is not a smartphone. It is not 252 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: a computer. The tablet, the iPad specifically, cannot really exist 253 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: as its own standalone computing device. Uh. You can run 254 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of a little cool apps on it, which 255 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: are great. And I don't mean to dismiss the apps 256 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: when I say little cool apps. They do generally tend 257 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: to be less complex and less demanding than full computer programs, 258 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: but many of them are incredibly innovative and very useful. 259 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: I have apps on my smartphone and I love them. Um. 260 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: At the same time, I don't confuse them with fully 261 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: fledged computer applications, so you can't run those. You essentially 262 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: need a computer to sink your iPad too on occasion, 263 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: so you can't just get away with having the iPad 264 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: as your primary computing device. You can't use it to 265 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: make calls like you can with a smartphone, so you 266 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: can't have it replaced that what Well, now that they've 267 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: unblocked using v I P on three G networks, you 268 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: could make that just happened yesterday. You can use some 269 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: vope technology, this is true, but if they don't want 270 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: using the Skype application, if you used a plugable, you know, 271 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: a third party microphone, I'm I'm wondering, why would you 272 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: do it? Why? Why would you do it? That's a 273 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: that's a better question. Yeah, because it doesn't like if 274 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: you happen to have it sitting around, then sure you 275 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: can pick it up and make a phone call. But otherwise, 276 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to carry this thing around 277 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: with you to to make It's not going to replace 278 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: a smartphone. And then there's the quality of voipe calls, 279 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: which and as Chris makes his point, uh, I will continue. Um, 280 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: so there's no camera yet that might come out on 281 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: a future edition of the iPad. Bet that will happen. 282 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: But with no camera you can't do things like video conferencing, 283 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: which to me was seemed crazy because they showed him 284 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: the press release a really cool use of it as 285 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: a presentation device, where they showed how how the presentation 286 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: the Keynote presentation software works on the iPad, and it 287 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: was legitimately impressive. It looked slick, it was intuitive. I 288 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: thought it was really well done. But if you're going 289 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: to create something that does something that well, you're suggesting 290 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: essentially to your audience, Hey, this is a great business tool. 291 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: If you don't put a camera in there where you 292 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: can do video conferencing, it's not really a great business tool. 293 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: It's an incomplete business tool, just as I would argue 294 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: it's an incomplete everything tool. I called it earlier while 295 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: I was in the office, and I think this this 296 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: holds water. I think the iPad is the perfect tool 297 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: to browse the web. If we were talking about web 298 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: one point oh web one point out. What I mean 299 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: by that is it doesn't really ultimately mean anything and 300 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: some marketing term, but but in general, what I mean 301 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: is the old style websites where you consumed the content 302 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: that was there, but you didn't contribute to it. You 303 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: would go to a website, you would read what was there, 304 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: and then you would leave, and that's all there was 305 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: to it. You might go to websites now and watch 306 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: a couple of videos and leave, and that's all there 307 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: is to it. But a lot of the websites out 308 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: there today are what we would refer to as web 309 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: two point oh sites where contribution and participation is a 310 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: major factor of browsing, and I argue that the iPad 311 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: and it's on screen keyboard device is not the most 312 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: useful if you want to do a lot of contributing 313 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: while you're on the web. And I don't know about 314 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: anyone else. I mean, there are probably plenty of people 315 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: out there who all they do is consume stuff on 316 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: the web. They don't necessarily participate in discussions or anything 317 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: like that. For them, this device might be perfect, and 318 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: I won't argue against that. I think if it works 319 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: for your lifestyle, great by one, by as many as 320 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: you like. But for people who do lots of participation 321 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: across the web, I think trying to use this as 322 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: your your main device, or even as a supplemental device 323 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: that you're using while you're like sitting on the couch 324 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: or whatever, will ultimately be frustrating, just because it's too 325 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: hard to input data and into something that kind of 326 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: requires two hands. And uh, I mean, when you think 327 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: about it, you're typing on the same surface that you're 328 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: looking at. So you're either typing on it by holding 329 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: it in one hand and using the other hand to 330 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: peck out words, or you're gonna have to put it 331 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: on your lap or on a tabletop or something and 332 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: try and type with two hands, uh that way, which 333 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: is why I argue that you can't really do extensive 334 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: data entry. That's why I call it the web. One 335 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: point of a web browser jobs when he got up there, 336 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: said that netbooks don't do anything well. They do lots 337 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: of stuff, but they don't do anything well, including web browsing. 338 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: I argue that netbooks are superior to the tablet in 339 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: the web browsing experience simply because it's easier to type 340 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: stuff in. It may not be as slick and interface, 341 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: but they're going to be able to do things that 342 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: you can't do with the tablet or the iPad. I 343 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: should say, I keep calling it the tablet because that's 344 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: what we've been calling it for years, but the iPad. Um. 345 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: That's not to say the iPad is a bad device. 346 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: I think it looks beautiful. I think the stuff it 347 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: does it does pretty well. Um, I think the stuff 348 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't do is pretty damning because there are other 349 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: devices out on the market that do those things. There's 350 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: an Android tablet that's in the works that does all 351 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: the stuff that you think the tablet. The iPad should 352 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: be able to do. Um. Will it be successful? Probably not. 353 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the iPad, despite all 354 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: the things that I find wrong with it, is going 355 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: to be incredibly successful. I also think that the people 356 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: who buy one three months after they buy it are 357 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: gonna set it down and forget that they have it, 358 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: because it's just not gonna be instrumental in their daily lives, 359 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: and it'll just be a cool piece of technology that 360 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: doesn't get used very much. All right, now, what I 361 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: also want to say, kid kidding, you've heard me rant 362 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: for like seven eight minutes straight. Chris actually left he Um, 363 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: he's brought back Arby's so rosecuef Tyler, nothing says Nothing 364 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: says iPad like a cartoner Curly fries. Um. Well, I 365 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: think I think the funny thing about the iPad is 366 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: that it's actually about tablet computers in general. It's it's 367 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: more of a niche thing, and I think that Apple's 368 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: loaning Apple's name and interface to it suddenly makes it 369 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: a consumer thing where it really probably should have been before, 370 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: but nobody really wanted to mess with it. I've seen 371 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: them used in a lot of cases. Um, you know, 372 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: there are lots and lots of tablets used in the 373 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: medical industry right because they're really handy for artists use 374 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: various kinds of tablets, and architects use various kinds of tablets. 375 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: There are a lot of many good reasons to use them. 376 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: Um And like you said, it hasn't really broken into 377 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: the consumer market. I think partly because as convenient as 378 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: a tablet is, it's really convenient if you keep it 379 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: in your house. You know, it's not necessarily the convenient 380 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: device that you take with you on the go because 381 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: it's about the same size as a netbook. It's it's 382 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: not as thick as a netbook, it's not as heavy 383 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: as a netbook. But you're gonna need a bag about 384 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: the size of a netbook bag to carry this thing 385 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: around it and the protective case so that you don't 386 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: get any scratches on that screen, that gorgeous screen. You 387 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: don't want that to get all scratched up. So, yeah, 388 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: the the it's it's just not as portable as what 389 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: It's not portable enough to be a big enough draw 390 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: compared to a netbook. In my opinion, Now, I do 391 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: think there is a market for this. I think there 392 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: are people who will think this is really cool and 393 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: they'll buy one and they'll be very pleased with it. UM. 394 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: I think people along my line of thought just don't 395 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: see a place like if I want to watch a movie, 396 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna either watch it on my computer on 397 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: my DVD player or through Roku on my television, um, 398 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: or I'll hook up a computer to my TV and 399 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: watch it that way. But for people who don't have 400 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: that kind of level of comfort with technology, this is 401 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: this thing makes sense. So it might be that the 402 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: reason why I have so many problems with this is 403 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: because I am not the target market for this device, 404 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: and and people who are the target market they may 405 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: have nothing but great things to say about it, which 406 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: that's fine, you know well, and UM, but I think 407 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: I think there are other groups that might latch onto 408 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: the iPad that might not have been in that that 409 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: other segments of the population. UM. For example, education, it 410 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: might be an opportunity for UH schools to get a 411 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: a computer that they can use in that case, um, 412 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: because they're they're less expend of than other forms of 413 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: of laptops. Now maybe not netbooks. Um. And there are 414 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people who will argue with me on 415 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: that and say, well, you can get um, you know, 416 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: a very cheap notebook for under four hundred dollars. Um. Well, 417 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: that's probably true, but I think that there are people 418 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: that might try to adopt it, and you know, I 419 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: would I want to say to that, I'm not necessarily 420 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: in the market to run out and buy an I 421 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: have had as soon as they hit store shelves, but 422 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: I would like to mess with it because, um, you know, 423 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I personally like the OS ten interface and I would 424 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: like to buy something that I could carry with me 425 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: to uh, you know on on the rare occasions when 426 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: I do travel. Um, but I don't really want to 427 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: fork over the money for a whole notebook, and I 428 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: mostly I'm basically going to try to get on the 429 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: web and do email now, as you pointed out, without 430 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: any flash right now at the moment, there is if 431 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: there are some limitations to you, but I'm I'm interested 432 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: in looking at it and messing around with it to 433 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: see if I could use it for that purpose, because 434 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: it is less expensive than a full fledged Apple notebook. Um. 435 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: And there are the people who would tell me, why 436 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: don't you just you know, get a netbook and make 437 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: it a Hackintosh. Well I could probably do that too, 438 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: except for the whole them walking out the atom processor thing. Well, 439 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I think that they It'll be 440 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: interesting to see how far Apple's marketing can take this, 441 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: because there there's a limit to the market for this, 442 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: I think literally, but whether or not there's a desire 443 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: the desire site of the market, well, uh, how far 444 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: they will take it. So the tablet doesn't really compete 445 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: against netbooks other than the fact that Jobs came out 446 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: and said netbooks suck. Uh yeah, essentially jobs kind of 447 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: through the gauntlet down. But really, the tablets not in 448 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: the same space as the netbook in my opinion. It's 449 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: also not really in the same space as e readers, 450 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: which is the other device that people have said is 451 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: the tablet and e reader killer? Is it a Kindle killer? Um? 452 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I would kind of argue that it's not even really 453 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: in the same space as the tablets that have gone 454 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: before it and are being marketed alongside it. Well, no, 455 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: because a lot of the tablets that are marketed beside it, 456 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: and Go and and came before it are more of 457 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: us stand alone computing device. They don't they aren't necessarily 458 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: as slick and easy to use. They don't have all 459 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: the features that the iPad has, but they do have 460 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: the ability to to run multiple processes and they can 461 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: run more more fully fledged programs in the iPad can't. 462 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: But that being said, let's getting back to the whole 463 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Kindle thing. Yeah, I was asked about that, like, do 464 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: I think it's uh trouble for the Kindle And I 465 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: think that all depends upon what you're in the market for. 466 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: If people are in the market or an e reader, 467 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: then I think if you compare the two devices and 468 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: the experience you get between the two devices, things like 469 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: the battery life and the ease of the ink display 470 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: on your eyes in comparison to a backlet display, those 471 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: sort of things will end the price because it's the 472 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: Kindles cheaper. Will kind of helped the Kindle went out. Also, 473 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: the massive Amazon library helps Barnes and Noble Nook same 474 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: sort of thing. You've got the Barnes and Noble store 475 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: behind that than the e ink display, then it's cheaper 476 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: than the than the iPad. If, however, you're looking for 477 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: a device that does more than just e books, then 478 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: I think the iPad wins out because even though it's 479 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: more expensive. It's not prohibitively expensive, you know, it's it's 480 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: it's maybe it's less than twice the amount of the 481 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: Kindle and the nook, but uh, and it does weigh 482 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: more than the Kindle or nook do. So if you're 483 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: in the market for something that does more than just 484 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: displays books, and you don't really care about the battery 485 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: life issue, uh, then the iPad wins out. So I 486 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: think I think it will probably take a bite out 487 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: of e book readers sales, But for people who are 488 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: specifically looking for that e reader experience, I don't think 489 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna dissuade them from buying a Nook or a Kindle. Okay, 490 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: three things, Uh. Number one, the the advantage that the 491 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: iPad has as an e book reader strictly as an 492 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: e book reader over the Kindle and other eating screens 493 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: is its color interface. And people who were who really 494 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: actually need stuff like graphs, charts, um color illustrations, or 495 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 1: really really want that, you're not going to get that 496 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: in the anything with an eating interface. Of course, if 497 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: you want to read a novel that doesn't require illustrations, 498 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: the you know you're gonna be using a lot of 499 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: power to light that with a an iPad where you 500 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't with a kindle. The kindle is probably going to 501 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: be the better bet. UM number two, UM the Kindle 502 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: as their Amazon has also started offering to open up 503 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: the Kindle to third party applications in development, So there 504 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: is a possibility that uh, Amazon is already anticipating Apple's 505 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: move into this and and starting to uh to plan 506 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: for their next move. It's gonna have to be a 507 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: limited suite of applications though, just because they display technology 508 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: isn't designed to show things like animation, so it's gonna 509 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: have to be stuff that has lots of different static screens. 510 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: Really yeah, unless they have other plans, I think that 511 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna see things like UM text based adventures. Zorike 512 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: is making a big comeback. Why not, UM, I don't know. 513 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: And then the third thing, UM, one thing that I 514 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: saw people complain about about the Eye books thing is 515 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: that the cost of the books is going back up. Well, yeah, 516 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: because Amazon. Amazon is buying the books from the publishers 517 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: and they're doing what they're doing with it. But Apple 518 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: made a deal directly with the publishers, which is to 519 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: the publisher's advantage and now that and and I think 520 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: that's going to change the kindle experience too, because their agreements. 521 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Once these things settle in, now that it's public knowledge 522 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: that Apple is working with these publishers, that's gonna force 523 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble and Amazon into a bit of a 524 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: pricing struggle because well, possibly there's no there's no guarantee 525 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: of that, but I have the feeling it's gonna put 526 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: some pressure on them if the iPad is successful, and 527 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: I have no doubts that it will be. But if 528 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: the iPad is successful, then it's gonna then the publishers 529 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: will have the leverage because they'll say, hey, we can 530 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: just move over here to this, and then it'll become 531 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: the standard and everybody will use that. They can play 532 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: Apple off of everybody else. But if no one buys 533 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: the iPad, or if the iPad is just kind of 534 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: a uh, you know, if it gets some popularity but 535 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't hit the mainstream consciousness, and if people aren't 536 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: don't start buying books on the iPad, then the publishers 537 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: are stuck with a model where, yeah, they can price 538 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: books the way they want and they get the deal 539 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: the way they want. But no one's buying the books, 540 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: so then they end up having to crawl back to 541 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Amazon or Barnes and Noble. Oh, by the way, publishers 542 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: don't crawl. Um, well I have people to do that 543 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: for them. Well, I'm also interested to see, I mean, 544 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: since it's still early daysa I'm interested to see if 545 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: there's an eye Books app for the iPhone and iPod Touch. Yeah, 546 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: that'll be interesting. They've got the Kindle app for the iPhone, 547 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: so now you're wondering if that's gonna presume it would 548 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: come to the iPad. One thing I wanted to point 549 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: out that I thought was kind of cool. You mentioned 550 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: it earlier about how being able to use iPod UH 551 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: applications on the iPad. It has has two different modes. 552 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: You can view it in a smaller windows, so essentially 553 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: you're looking at it as if it were on an 554 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: iPod Touch or on an iPhone, which I'm sure it'll 555 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: be very strange. Or you can increase its size so 556 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: that it's looking more natural On the iPad. It doubles 557 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: the pixels. It's gonna look Yeah, it's gonna look a 558 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: little blocky. The resolution is not going to be as 559 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: good but it does does increase the size so that 560 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: you can view it in a in a larger frame. 561 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: So I thought that was kind of neat. Um, But 562 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: we had a question in that email, okay, Jason Callicannis. 563 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: So what Calicanis did was he claimed that he got 564 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: hold of the iPad early on, and in that claim, 565 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: he said that the device had two cameras, an hd 566 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: TV tuner, thumb pad, user interface on either side, had 567 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: fingerprint recognitions for security measures. Um. It connected through other 568 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: to other devices through WiFi, so you could have like 569 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: a networked gaming session with a whole bunch of people. 570 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: He said that the gaming would be huge. Um. He 571 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: said it had a solar panel on the back to 572 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: recharge because it only had like four hours worth of 573 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: gaming life in it, but the solar panel had unprecedented 574 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: charging capabilities. Turns out he was just joking. I mean, 575 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: it was all just a joke. And people have claimed otherwise, 576 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: saying that it was a ploy for him to get 577 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: lots and lots of Twitter followers and that this was 578 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: really just kind of a dirty, underhanded way of trying 579 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: to to boost his popularity. I don't know Mr Calicanus personally. 580 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: I have corresponded with him in the past, and I've 581 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: listened to a lot of his discussions on various shows. 582 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm fairly confident in saying that, uh, that this was 583 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: probably just a joke. It wasn't necessarily meant as a 584 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: publicity stunt to get him his name over because his 585 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: publicity stunts are far more transparent. He has done them 586 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: in the past by doing lots of giveaways and things 587 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: like that, so Calicanus is not above doing that sort 588 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: of thing. But I think I think in this case, 589 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: it was just him being silly. He was just trying 590 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: to create the most ridiculously uh lavish tablet idea possible 591 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: and then see if anyone would would buy it. And 592 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: he gave people lots of outs, lots of clues that 593 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: this was just a joke, and a lot of people 594 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: bought it anyway, and then we're upset when they found 595 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: out later that it wasn't true. But yeah, I don't 596 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: think this was I don't think he broke any kind 597 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: of code of ethics or unwritten code of the Internet. 598 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: The unwritten code of the internet's very serious and if 599 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: you break it, we will find you. But Internet, yeah, um, 600 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: and we can't tell you what the rules are, but 601 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: we can tell you you don't want to break them. 602 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: Uh so, but yeah, I think this was just a 603 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: case of a joke gone kind of too far. Um. 604 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I read the original post and I just like, 605 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone necessarily believe this, except for 606 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: the fact that after two years of waiting, you kind 607 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: of believe anything. Yeah. So, um, well, that's that's our 608 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 1: our initial discussion of the iPad. Of course, we have 609 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: neither of us have had the chance to get one 610 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: in our hands yet. Actually, very very few people have 611 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: at this point. And uh, you know, people ask us 612 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: all the time on Twitter and an email and on 613 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: the blogs what we think is this means, and we 614 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: can honestly, we can really only conjecture at this point, 615 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: where it's gonna take some time before the public can 616 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: really get their hands on it and developers can develop 617 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: for it. Some Apple stores might have some demo models 618 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: out now, but I haven't tried to check it out yet, 619 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: just because it's been a crazy week. But uh, maybe 620 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: when I get my hands on it, I will Maybe 621 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: I'll get it, you know, maybe I'll see And I 622 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: think that I think it's really, really aggressively for an 623 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: Apple product it is, and so I think that's gonna 624 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: help it out a lot too. And as I said, 625 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: there's probably a market out there that I just don't 626 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: understand that will eat this up and maybe they'll use 627 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: it forever. But I just see it as a flash 628 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: in the pan ultimately. And there's all there's also an 629 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: anti Apple market, and they've been very vocal in saying 630 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: it's just a piece of junk. Right. I don't think 631 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: it's a piece sure, And maybe, like I said, maybe 632 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: when I hold it, maybe I'll say that, you know what, 633 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: I was totally wrong. I want one, and I can 634 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: see why I would use it, and that could still happen. Uh, 635 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: So don't write me and say that I hate Apple. 636 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't hate Apple. I own Apple products and uh 637 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: and and I'm willing to be proven wrong. But the 638 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: tablet format for me has never really made sense. And 639 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: that goes beyond Apple that I'm talking about across manufacturers. 640 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: The only tablet like device I've been tempted to get 641 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: is the Lenovo you won. Because it's also a netbook 642 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: for notebook, I shouldn't call it a netbook because Lenovo 643 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: will say I broke one of those rules, and then 644 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: Neilson someone after that. That is a very nifty device. 645 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that wraps up our very long discussion 646 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: about the iPad and leads us to a little more 647 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: listener mail. This listener mail comes from Kate, and Kate says, Hey, guys, 648 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention one of my favorite Easter eggs 649 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: of days past. It's changed now, but a few years 650 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: ago you could type the word failure into Google and 651 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: click I'm feeling lucky, and it would take you directly 652 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: to the official white House dot gov bio of George W. Bush. 653 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: It always made me giggle. Kate. The reason why I 654 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: did this was to correct a little bit. Really, that's 655 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: not an Easter egg. That's not an Easter egg. No. No. 656 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: The way it worked was that people essentially gained the 657 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: system so that when you typed in failure the top, 658 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: the top link would come up as white House dot gov, 659 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: and people would click on that right to make it 660 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: a higher search rank, or they would link to it, 661 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: you know that. So it was it was not necessarily 662 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Google making a political statement. When you click the I'm 663 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: feeling lucky, it essentially takes you to the top the 664 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: other top search result for whatever the term is. So 665 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: that was not necessarily Google putting something into the the 666 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: algorithm specifically as a political statement. And it wasn't anybody 667 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: messing with the White House website, right, It was third 668 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: party people. I mean, I guess theoretically could have been 669 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: someone in Google who did it, but as far as 670 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: I've read, no one is willing to cop to it, 671 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 1: so it may just have been a bunch of people 672 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: who very diligently worked so that failure would lead to 673 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: that bio. So I don't think that necessarily counts as 674 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: an Easter egg. So if you guys want to send 675 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: us some comments, questions you want to yell at me 676 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: because you think I hate Apple, rite us our addresses 677 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: tech stuff at how stuff works dot com. Check out 678 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: our blogs, check out our live show, check out the 679 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: website because we got tons of cool articles on their trust. 680 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: This will have an iPad article up as soon as 681 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: it is possible to do so, and Chris and I 682 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: will talk to you again really soon. 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