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Speaker 1: of My Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive
Speaker 1: deep deep. We dig deep into the world of black
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, and we worked to finally prove that the
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Speaker 1: your host, Lankstin Kerman. I am excited to be here.
Speaker 1: You've already heard our guest today. He was very curious
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Speaker 1: you to him. You guys know him from his amazing
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Speaker 1: the Eric Andre Show. Give it up from my special guest, Mr.
Speaker 1: Eric Andre. Hell yeah, he's doing the whistle thing, but
Speaker 1: he can't really hear it. I can't do it. That's
Speaker 1: why better. That's a solid whistle right there. How are you, sir? Good?
Speaker 1: How you doing. I'm chilling. Thanks for having me on
Speaker 1: your show. Thanks. Yeah, no, we're gonna have some fun.
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Speaker 1: you know the vans where they offer nude made service.
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Speaker 1: That joke died in my mouth, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I do like the idea of her being naked and
Speaker 1: doing a good power of wash on the outside of
Speaker 1: your house at the top of the line cleaners actually
Speaker 1: our nudists. I saw one of those, and I thought,
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Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic, but let me see some titties
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah that's wild. Yeah, nude maids. I'm super
Speaker 1: excited to have you today because, as you know, this
Speaker 1: podcast is all about conspiracy theories, and you have come
Speaker 1: to us with a phenomenal conspiracy theory are certainly one
Speaker 1: that is legendary and a lot of communities you brought
Speaker 1: us my mama told me is real. Some people in
Speaker 1: the Critn area of Mobile say alepricns taking up residents
Speaker 1: in their neighborhood. Yeah, yes, you know. I was worried
Speaker 1: when I sent it to you. I was like, he's
Speaker 1: seen this, He's probably done in an episode or two
Speaker 1: about it already. Yeah. I had seen it, but I
Speaker 1: have not done no episodes on it, and I'm still
Speaker 1: good good. And I was like, like I was saying before,
Speaker 1: my mom is Jewish, so she has no good She
Speaker 1: has no good Black conspiracies. My dad's a black one
Speaker 1: and his mom died before I was born, so I
Speaker 1: didn't get any good Black or Caribbean conspiracies really because
Speaker 1: my parents are kind of like skeptics, you know, but
Speaker 1: Caribbean people in general have a ship ton of sort
Speaker 1: of like conspiracy, and I was cut off from it
Speaker 1: because my dad at his skept he's atheists, he doesn't
Speaker 1: believe in any of that ship. But his mom super religious,
Speaker 1: super Catholic. If she saw a frog or a lizard,
Speaker 1: she would think like the devil is at play and
Speaker 1: the devil's trying to get in her house. Like she
Speaker 1: would have been full of them, but she passed away
Speaker 1: before I was born, So so you just had to
Speaker 1: go on YouTube. So I had to. I had to.
Speaker 1: I had to go on the Bombs World and send
Speaker 1: you some leprecnip. I had to explain to my wife
Speaker 1: the other day what the bombs the World was. It
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's like YouTube where you could also
Speaker 1: watch murder. That was the only explanation. It was a
Speaker 1: lawless YouTube before YouTube during the MySpace era. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember seeing I remember seeing videos like the leper
Speaker 1: Con thing, and then also seeing like what was supposed
Speaker 1: to be like military footage of them blowing up buildings
Speaker 1: and was like, Okay, I guess this's gonna form my youth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bar mauling a woman or something fucking rough Evom's world. Wait,
Speaker 1: so when did you come across the Creighton leper com
Speaker 1: When did you first come to discover this story? I
Speaker 1: think probably like fifteen years ago five something like that.
Speaker 1: Were you just like scouring the internet and bumped into
Speaker 1: this thing? Was it in the height of everybody else
Speaker 1: finding it? Yeah? It was one of those early viral
Speaker 1: videos that was just passed around amongst friends. Right, it's
Speaker 1: almost one of the more legendary videos because it's one
Speaker 1: that kind of you can return to every year, almost
Speaker 1: like a holiday, you know what I mean, where it's
Speaker 1: like every year I can go rewatch every St. Patrick's day.
Speaker 1: I'm watching that video. Just a lady going it could
Speaker 1: be a crackhead, be a crackhead, got around stuff. She's
Speaker 1: actually the only person I agree with. Yes, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of like she's the most relatable character in that whole drama. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're saying you didn't relate with the dude who
Speaker 1: cut holes in a pipe and said it was a
Speaker 1: flute that had been passed him last This is a
Speaker 1: special flute which has been plashed down from thousands of
Speaker 1: years ago from my great great grandfather who was Irish.
Speaker 1: I just came to help out. I did look it up,
Speaker 1: and apparently there is no pipe. There's no story of
Speaker 1: a pipe that magically awards off lepricns. That was Was
Speaker 1: that guy improvising because the cameras were on him, or
Speaker 1: does he That's the sense I'm getting. But maybe it
Speaker 1: was something even more nefarious. Maybe they gave him the
Speaker 1: pipe and told him, Hey, say this that you made
Speaker 1: a story exactly the original fake news. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: not You're from Boston. Correct, No, Florida. You're from Florida.
Speaker 1: Oh so you weren't too well. You spent from school.
Speaker 1: I went to school. I went to college in Boston. Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I also went I went to grad
Speaker 1: school in Boston and be you Okay, I studied the
Speaker 1: first prank. You really you studied poetry. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: waste of time, don't do it. You have a master's
Speaker 1: degree in poetry. Hell yeah, dog like Cummings and ships. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's me and e Coummings. We're the only two that
Speaker 1: would make such a stupid choice. Wait, what did you
Speaker 1: study in school? I wanted to school for upright bass
Speaker 1: and everybody always tells me that, like, oh, you could
Speaker 1: do an upright based comedy thing. And I brought it
Speaker 1: on stage one time, but I'm too hyperactive on stage
Speaker 1: two be weighed down by my base right. Wait and
Speaker 1: literally you want to be able to run around. I've
Speaker 1: seen you on stage. You do a lot of moving,
Speaker 1: a lot of extra ship basis keeping you stagnant. Base
Speaker 1: is too big. It's too big an instrument to bring
Speaker 1: on stage. And were you my kind of comedy? Were
Speaker 1: you nice with it? Were you like? Hell yeah? It
Speaker 1: was nice with it when I was nineteen twenty, but
Speaker 1: it's not something I like kept up practice wise, you
Speaker 1: don't still own a base to this day. I got
Speaker 1: I got a I bought a new one recently just
Speaker 1: for fun. You want to see my bass, he show
Speaker 1: me this bass. I want to see and for the
Speaker 1: listeners at home, which this won't be engaging for you
Speaker 1: at all, but I'm excited to see this. Fucking Oh
Speaker 1: that's cool ballpaper. Oh hell yeah, that's a good upright bass.
Speaker 1: Are you still practicing with it? Do you still like
Speaker 1: occasionally pull it out? I come downstairs half stone that
Speaker 1: I'll go bad and get a nice girl over there
Speaker 1: for seven months. My girlfriend's not impressed by you. No
Speaker 1: one is impressed by my bass. I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of girl upright bass. Thanks man.
Speaker 1: We we could have been like a duo in like
Speaker 1: a parallel universe. Dude, we have all the tools to
Speaker 1: make a very stereotypical bad poetry reading. That's right, we
Speaker 1: need to do it. With some drums are bongos, and
Speaker 1: we'd be fine. There's no way we'd be poor after
Speaker 1: all of this, reading soul on ice on stage, the
Speaker 1: ineptitude of the white man's his directed me in studio.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, brother, open your eyes, open your third eye.
Speaker 1: I only see two right now. So okay, let's talk
Speaker 1: more about this Leprechaun. When you saw the video, when
Speaker 1: you a dollar for every time a podcast house said,
Speaker 1: let's get back to this leprechn When you first saw
Speaker 1: the video, did you believe in the possibility of its existence? No,
Speaker 1: not whatsoever. But it was a great watch. It made
Speaker 1: for an entertaining watch. Sure, so immediately you were like, hell, no,
Speaker 1: this isn't real. And but I was caught up in
Speaker 1: the I was no, I will say, I was caught
Speaker 1: up in the magic of the enthusiasm. I will say
Speaker 1: in the spirit of it. There's so many people cheering
Speaker 1: and sort of like a cited to experience it that
Speaker 1: I felt like it had to have been something like
Speaker 1: there's sometimes you see videos and you're like, well, there's
Speaker 1: nothing here, you guys are just fucking bored whatever. But
Speaker 1: like all those black people cheering in the street, like
Speaker 1: who's saying the lepricn say yeah, and I'm all going yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like there's got to be something out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a spirit. It's the spirit of the Lepric. It's
Speaker 1: the spirit of Saint Patrick that all these black people
Speaker 1: in fucking Alabama are experiencing for some reason. Wow, what
Speaker 1: what a ride that video. You grew up in Florida.
Speaker 1: Were you anywhere near Alabama where you like in that
Speaker 1: Florabama's shore type Florida. I'm like Bokra Tone, which is
Speaker 1: like nice suburbs outside of Miami, like five minutes no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: elderly Jewish people waiting to die. There's no far from
Speaker 1: the Panhandle. That's a different Florida. Less of this energy
Speaker 1: that we're getting from the video. It's a different Florida.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's Florida like that all throughout, but that
Speaker 1: is a different Florida. That Alabama, Mississippi Florida. That's a
Speaker 1: different Florida. Would you say that growing up in like
Speaker 1: the Boca Raton type energy where their places or sort
Speaker 1: of people that you could go to that did have
Speaker 1: sort of conspiratorial type thinking or was it more Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, I mean conspiracy theorists are everywhere, for sure,
Speaker 1: but no leprecns. I don't know. It's it's the part
Speaker 1: of the fun of this is that a LEPrecon is
Speaker 1: not a common belief held by most black people. I
Speaker 1: think it's not like this is That's where you're wrong.
Speaker 1: That's the majority of black people, not just in America,
Speaker 1: throughout Africa and the Caribbean, all into the leprin. This
Speaker 1: is a story that's been handed down from generation to
Speaker 1: generation and has made its way from African tribe to
Speaker 1: African tribe of the legendary leprecn. So no belief in
Speaker 1: the lepre con. Did anyone in your life argue with
Speaker 1: you at any point that there was a possibility this
Speaker 1: leper con was real, that there was any validity to
Speaker 1: my friends mental patients. I'll be honest, I there were
Speaker 1: people in my life who were like, maybe they were
Speaker 1: so much like a hundred percent it's real because none
Speaker 1: of us lived there, but like they were like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, shit happened. It was. It was the uh,
Speaker 1: the police sketch of the lepricn that kind of made
Speaker 1: me kind of bow out. The amateur sketch, amateur sketch.
Speaker 1: I didn't have sketch. The police are looking to arrest
Speaker 1: the Lepricn. This guy's up to no fucking good, and
Speaker 1: we the streets aren't safe as long as the stick
Speaker 1: figure of a Lepricn is still out there. I do
Speaker 1: think that I had to go back and rewatch the video,
Speaker 1: and then I subsequently ended up watching like eight more
Speaker 1: videos related to this video. While you went deep, I
Speaker 1: went real deep into the rabbit hole. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that I realized was that the amateur sketch
Speaker 1: that they showed, I had to make sure that it
Speaker 1: wasn't a police sketch because I thought that, oh, the
Speaker 1: police were so shitty that they sent like their worst
Speaker 1: guy to go, like their worst sketch artists. Yeah, like James,
Speaker 1: who's just starting. Then they have like the they have
Speaker 1: like the Vincent ben Go kind of sketch artists, like
Speaker 1: their top quality guy. But then they sent James. Yeah, James,
Speaker 1: he's just a nah. He mostly refills the coffee, but
Speaker 1: you know, occasionally they let him go out in the
Speaker 1: streets and draw lepre cons. If anybody says they spotted one,
Speaker 1: he's the office dick. The part of the fun of
Speaker 1: the video. There's so much rich information in it that
Speaker 1: it starts to my friends. Where we ended up arguing
Speaker 1: about it, was you start to if not believe all
Speaker 1: of the people, believe individuals in the story. Much like
Speaker 1: you said, the lady who's like it might be a
Speaker 1: crackhead who got ahold of the wrong stuff. She's a
Speaker 1: believable character, all of this. See, I would hang out.
Speaker 1: I would hang out with her. First, I kind of
Speaker 1: my my attitude is more in line with her attitudes.
Speaker 1: I get that You're like, okay, I get where you
Speaker 1: are wave length like she's bringing everybody down to earth.
Speaker 1: She's like, you might just be seeing a crackhead that
Speaker 1: got a whole at the wrong stuff. It's like, all right,
Speaker 1: she's practic. She's practical. Yes, I'm kind of with her.
Speaker 1: Whereas the guy who yells I want to know where
Speaker 1: to go, that I want to go is. I'm charmed
Speaker 1: by that guy. So I would hang out with him too,
Speaker 1: Like he's charisma and and charisma goes a long way.
Speaker 1: Personality goes a long way for me, So I would,
Speaker 1: you know, I would kind of he melts my heart
Speaker 1: in a certain kind of way. So so he's someone
Speaker 1: you would invite to the party, but not necessarily spend.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to him the whole time. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you. The noveltyam I wear off after what
Speaker 1: it's like? Do the bit? Okay? Good thing? Type five? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: enjoy enjoy the Deviled Eggs? Is the whole thing staged
Speaker 1: by that news station? Or is it a real did
Speaker 1: you do research? Is it real? Is it really Alabama?
Speaker 1: Is it real Alabama mythology? It's real Alabama mythology. There's
Speaker 1: plenty of argument to what you said, and we'll dig
Speaker 1: into that soon, but a hundred percent this was real
Speaker 1: mythology that came from real people who genuinely believed that
Speaker 1: they saw lepre con Did you gravitate to the only
Speaker 1: other black person in the poetry program where you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: just me and you we gotta system together right on?
Speaker 1: Or were you just like I'm gonna hang out with
Speaker 1: people now. I mean, I don't think you really We
Speaker 1: didn't get along that well. It was really a weird energy.
Speaker 1: Is that true? It was a weird vibe. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't blame her or myself. We just that wasn't
Speaker 1: my person. You know what I mean. And we are back.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody got time for that? Yeah, we're back here
Speaker 1: with more Eric Andre and more. My mama told me
Speaker 1: we are still talking about this Creighton leper Con, the
Speaker 1: mobile Alabama lepre Con, as it was once known, and
Speaker 1: Eric was enjoying a delicious meal now he's back. He
Speaker 1: was wiping chicken grease off his fingers like a real motherfucker.
Speaker 1: His fingers were the blackest podcast and he's he had
Speaker 1: chicken grease on his fingers before the podcast even started.
Speaker 1: He's an unreasonable person. Okay, So I told you I
Speaker 1: did a bunch of research about this leper con and
Speaker 1: I sound I think, like many of us, that it
Speaker 1: would just be digging into the video. But as it
Speaker 1: turns out, there's actually a ship ton of evidence that
Speaker 1: leper cons and black people have a lot more correlation
Speaker 1: than I thought. And so what I want to propose
Speaker 1: to you, and this is a bowl theory. But after
Speaker 1: all the digging that I did, I landed on a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that I want to throw out to you,
Speaker 1: see how you feel about it, and then out backtrack
Speaker 1: and let and try to help piece it all together.
Speaker 1: But I genuinely believe, based on everything that I've dug up,
Speaker 1: that the Creighton lepre con is a tool for white
Speaker 1: supremacy and historical erasure of black people. Your thoughts, where
Speaker 1: where do you uh tell me more? Okay? Hell, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad you want to hear more. You're not telling
Speaker 1: me no, So let's keep going. Okay, So let's forget
Speaker 1: the obvious sort of like voyeuristic tone of what this
Speaker 1: feels like, right, of these white people going and watching
Speaker 1: black people yell at shadows in a tree. Right, we'll
Speaker 1: skip past all of that. But all this research that
Speaker 1: I sort of uncovered proves the possibility that lepre cons
Speaker 1: were in fact at some point black people. Now, keep
Speaker 1: in mind, this research is coming from a place called
Speaker 1: blacks in San Antonio dot com, So it is not
Speaker 1: the most legitimate website that I could have found information on,
Speaker 1: but I like to uh follow blacks in San Antonio
Speaker 1: dot com as of yesterday. So here's what I found.
Speaker 1: Lepre cons. The original word comes from this old Irish
Speaker 1: word called lucre pond, which roughly means small body. Right,
Speaker 1: and then there's all this evidence that claims that leprecons
Speaker 1: were actually a reference to this group of African migrants
Speaker 1: known as the a Cons or the Ta, who were
Speaker 1: naturally very small people, averaging at a height of about
Speaker 1: four eleven. So these migrants that these black people that
Speaker 1: show up to Ireland are four eleven and there is
Speaker 1: specifically known for craftsmanship and cheemaking, which is like the
Speaker 1: biggest thing that lepre cons are known for. And then
Speaker 1: at some point the Africans and the Akan people start
Speaker 1: to get known as Naga or Nagar or negus, which
Speaker 1: also loosely translates to serpent people. And then if you
Speaker 1: know anything about like St Patrick's Day, right, St Patrick's
Speaker 1: Day is all about St Patrick apparently running the snakes
Speaker 1: the serpents out of Ireland. So in theory, if you
Speaker 1: mush all these things together, there's a real possibility that
Speaker 1: St Patrick, when he was quote unquote running the serpents
Speaker 1: out of Ireland, was in fact just running a bunch
Speaker 1: of black people out of Ireland, basically committing a genocide
Speaker 1: when we're black people in Ireland. No, there were no
Speaker 1: black people ever. Now I've been to Ireland. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I've been there, there are none. But the argument
Speaker 1: would be that the St. Patrick of old ran them out,
Speaker 1: so there are no more thousands of years ago. You're
Speaker 1: not buying it. You're not here for Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm a huge subscriber to Blacks in San Antonio
Speaker 1: dot com. Whenever somebody is not on board, their voice
Speaker 1: gets real high. I do what you're doing. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: Blacks and San Antonio dot Com argues that St. Patrick,
Speaker 1: who may or may not be a real historical figure
Speaker 1: but could be an allegory, is in fact sort of
Speaker 1: the representation of a genocide that happens, which means that
Speaker 1: when this news group goes down and basically seems to
Speaker 1: cover this softball expose on a lepricn in a tree,
Speaker 1: there secretly doing a profile on black on black violence
Speaker 1: and encouraging the people of Mobile, Alabama to maintain a
Speaker 1: cycle of a historical division. People do anything, gold anything,
Speaker 1: you know what? I like? I like the amateur sketch
Speaker 1: of the lepric, Like somebody got a really good look
Speaker 1: at it and got that good drawing up. Who did that?
Speaker 1: I want to know who sketched that. I do think
Speaker 1: that there's something to be said about the idea that
Speaker 1: a bunch of white people laughing at black people as
Speaker 1: a yell at a lepre con in a tree feels
Speaker 1: like a type of manipulation that makes me uncomfortable. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, who are the white people in this newscasters
Speaker 1: and the news? One was black? One was black. But
Speaker 1: she ain't picked that. She just along for the ride.
Speaker 1: She didn't want to lose her job, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean A lot it could have been her story.
Speaker 1: I like that. Your argument is, Hey, that white guy
Speaker 1: seemed like a good guy, and it seems like she
Speaker 1: showed up with this book. I'm just like being like,
Speaker 1: I just like arguing. I think that's a solid There's
Speaker 1: like other news stories that came out after this, like
Speaker 1: a bunch of people went and did follow ups on
Speaker 1: the whole thing, specifically one that came like ten years
Speaker 1: later where they were like, and now a ten year
Speaker 1: revisit of the Crichton lepre con. Really, how old is
Speaker 1: that video? Two thousand four or no, two thousand six?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Is when it came out? I said two
Speaker 1: thousand four, because I've been watching in six years, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be celebrating the anniversary. Yeah, I know what I'm
Speaker 1: doing on the holiday. I don't. So they did a
Speaker 1: new profile on it, and it turns out that the
Speaker 1: original leper Con was spotted by this dude. His name
Speaker 1: was Sean Thomas, right, And Sean Thomas actually drew his
Speaker 1: own sketch of the leper Con that is not at
Speaker 1: all like the one that they ended up showing on TV.
Speaker 1: It's like very nice and well done. He painted it
Speaker 1: and ship it's a beautiful drawing. And instead they showed
Speaker 1: that nigger drawing of fucking. So they're keeping, they're keeping,
Speaker 1: They're keeping the black man down with that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you they talked to Sean Thomas in the other
Speaker 1: interview and he's a very thoughtful dude. He's like, I
Speaker 1: don't believe in leper coms, but I saw something that
Speaker 1: day and it turned into a whole different thing. Exactly.
Speaker 1: The news didn't say a word to Sean Thomas before this.
Speaker 1: It's all making sense now. Hell yeah. So going even further,
Speaker 1: one of the things that I found, and this is
Speaker 1: one of the more jarring discoveries I found. In two
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen, a group of independent researchers figured out that
Speaker 1: they're actually were alternative theories to the whole thing the
Speaker 1: entire time, and that everyone in the neighborhood knew that
Speaker 1: the Crichton leper con was. In fact, they dude and
Speaker 1: I'm quoting here named Mitchett Sean who had climbed the
Speaker 1: tree as a leper con and was just sort of
Speaker 1: pretending to do this as a prank. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: think we gotta go down to that. What's the name
Speaker 1: of the town Criterion in Mobile. We gotta go to
Speaker 1: Crichton and see what the is going on over there.
Speaker 1: I don't think I want to go right now. Well
Speaker 1: we go in six years, right, we gotta go for
Speaker 1: the holiday. We show up dresses lepre cons to uh
Speaker 1: unpack this whole story. We never once addressed the fact
Speaker 1: that we're addressed as lepre cons. We just show up
Speaker 1: as like very serious journalists dresses lepre cons, asking about
Speaker 1: the Cretan leper con. It's a lot of information that
Speaker 1: the news, in my opinion, intentionally left out. No one
Speaker 1: talked to either of the Shawn's, either big or small.
Speaker 1: No one addressed any of the other drawings. There were
Speaker 1: just a lot of people that went unasked. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of Shawn's left out, A lot of Shawn's
Speaker 1: left out, which is you know, not how the Irish
Speaker 1: people wanted it. They love Shaun's they name all their
Speaker 1: kids Sean. So then I started digging into the history
Speaker 1: of lepre cons. Right. I didn't know anything about Lepricns
Speaker 1: in terms of like their message, right, And one of
Speaker 1: the things that I found is that LEPrecon there's an
Speaker 1: argument that leprecons actually came from this thing called Donna
Speaker 1: Hue syndrome. Have you heard of Donna Hue syndrome. It's
Speaker 1: apparently like this disease that children are a baby when
Speaker 1: it's born can have where it makes them extra small
Speaker 1: and their bones are in muscles never fully developed, so
Speaker 1: they have really big heads, really small bodies. And then
Speaker 1: also like darken it up now, oh yeah, dark spots
Speaker 1: all over their bodies and skin sucker for genetic defects.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get let's get bummed out life syndrome. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm tuning out all your ship about this black conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: But now that you're telling me about a syndrome, check
Speaker 1: me back in. This is not a Google image search
Speaker 1: you want to take. This not a journey. It's a
Speaker 1: journey I regret, but now I uh, now I can't
Speaker 1: eat my lunch. I was very detailed in my description.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you needed to see it in person.
Speaker 1: I just can't. I'm like a kid with a sword tooth.
Speaker 1: I can't stop touching it. I just gotta figure it
Speaker 1: out and scratch that itch. Always regret it. I owe you.
Speaker 1: You never want to press play on snuffootage. It does.
Speaker 1: It always defected afterwards, but you gotta, you gotta poke
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, so there's a real argument that Donnie
Speaker 1: Hughes syndrome was in fact what people were associated with
Speaker 1: leper cons and Joe the time decided to turn it
Speaker 1: into like a cute story instead of a horrific disease
Speaker 1: that was affecting people, which we've seen over and over
Speaker 1: again in history. I think you know what you really
Speaker 1: don't want to look up. Don't look up snake baby,
Speaker 1: snake baby, don't look up snake baby, don't look up
Speaker 1: harlequin type of theosis. Tell me more about these that's
Speaker 1: your journey. I'll leave it at that. You have Google
Speaker 1: go and go nuts. I don't want to. I can't
Speaker 1: do it in the middle of the podcast. I'll ruin
Speaker 1: your lunch later. Save it for later. It's a bummer. Yeah, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some time in this next break to
Speaker 1: look up snake Baby. We're gonna do one more break
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back with more eric Andre and
Speaker 1: we are bad. Yeah, we're back here with more eric Andre.
Speaker 1: We're still talking about that Creighton lepre Con. We're still
Speaker 1: are amazing. Neither one of us were fans of Boston
Speaker 1: until this lepre Con story is I think equally jarring
Speaker 1: and difficult. There's a lot of racists in Boston. My
Speaker 1: experience of Boss is just racist taxi drivers and pre
Speaker 1: uber days. A lot of people telling you that they're
Speaker 1: not going to drive you home. Yeah, or worse, Wait,
Speaker 1: what was worse for you? Well, the worst it's worse
Speaker 1: when they don't know you're black, so they're like they
Speaker 1: start a conversation with like this. Then you know, like
Speaker 1: you're about to get like at least ten end bombs drops,
Speaker 1: right that weird looking around, right, yeah, like pre racist ramp.
Speaker 1: Look around. I'm like, go further, I'm right behind you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have an adverse reaction to this diet trap
Speaker 1: you're about to go on. Yeah, it was right after
Speaker 1: I was there right after at nine eleven. So oh
Speaker 1: so everybody was super cool and chill and not at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no races, no, no ramped up racism after that. They
Speaker 1: were just taking it easy and loving America at that point. Yeah, silly,
Speaker 1: all right, I want to play a game. We're gonna
Speaker 1: play one game and then we're gonna get out of here.
Speaker 1: You're down for a game, fu Yeah, okay. This game
Speaker 1: is a very fun game that I like to call
Speaker 1: white lies. You're ugly, you're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: Give me two d. This is a fun game where
Speaker 1: I am going to present Dr Phil. That's Dr Phil.
Speaker 1: I think he's quoting somebody on the show and he
Speaker 1: says it and I misused it for my entertainment. It's
Speaker 1: not a real not a real doctor. By the way,
Speaker 1: Dr Phil, not a real doctor. Doesn't even have doesn't
Speaker 1: even have a high school diploma. No that okay, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, Dr Phil. He's illiterate, he's illiterate, and he's
Speaker 1: bad at sex. Fun Dr Phil. So here's the game.
Speaker 1: I'm going to present you with a traditional white stereotype
Speaker 1: or white conspira or c theory, rather one that has
Speaker 1: existed forever and always in society for white people, and
Speaker 1: I would like for you to unpack exactly why you
Speaker 1: think they believe in this conspiracy theory. What is it
Speaker 1: that's driving this conspiracy theory for these white people? Why
Speaker 1: is this important to them? Okay, so recently we passed
Speaker 1: the celebration of the fifty first year for the man
Speaker 1: going to the Moon, for Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin
Speaker 1: and that other guy, Michael Scott I think I don't
Speaker 1: remember his last name, but they went to the moon,
Speaker 1: and that for years since everyone has claimed that that
Speaker 1: moon lager, Miamy, Mike Winslow, he was up there making
Speaker 1: car sounds. Then uh, he was doing trombone in the
Speaker 1: spaceship while Buzz was but our two D two sounds.
Speaker 1: So it's been fifty one year since they went up there,
Speaker 1: and since then we have not stopped claiming that that
Speaker 1: moon landing was fake, so much so that the other
Speaker 1: day I actually saw someone claim that Neil Armstrong backwards
Speaker 1: Neil a backwards spells alien, which is a suggestion that
Speaker 1: this is all a big ruse and that somehow him
Speaker 1: being an alien also proves that the moon landing is fake.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd just be repeating stuff that's said.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that the faked quote unquote faked
Speaker 1: moon landing is so important to white people? Damn, that's
Speaker 1: a good question. I guess because it was such a
Speaker 1: major event and such a cold war chess piece that
Speaker 1: bugs white people out. I don't know. Yeah, so like
Speaker 1: that it was it was excuse me white people for
Speaker 1: me people. I'd asked my dad, Yeah, are you mixed?
Speaker 1: Your dad's white? Yeah, I got your mom must have
Speaker 1: been black cat. Yeah, my mom's pretty black. Nah, she's like,
Speaker 1: uh like dark, I mean dark. She's got like a whoopee.
Speaker 1: She's around whoopee, I think. And then your your your
Speaker 1: dad made love to her? Hell yeah, I hope. So.
Speaker 1: I hope he treated her good when he did. I
Speaker 1: don't want to believe that he was just in and out.
Speaker 1: Are they still together? No, My parents have been divorced
Speaker 1: since I was like four. Oh, ship, you still talked
Speaker 1: to both of them. Yeah, they're great people. They're both
Speaker 1: very lovely people. And they did not make it. Then
Speaker 1: there's a rift both of them. Had they remarried. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom's been married four times and my dad's been
Speaker 1: married three? Wow, does your dad go for black women
Speaker 1: every time? He's married to black women? Out of the three,
Speaker 1: so he's not doing bad. Which one is? This is
Speaker 1: wife number three and second black lady? Okay, so he
Speaker 1: never went to the original poem, went back, hence the
Speaker 1: poetry bug bait. You sure your father led by example
Speaker 1: and you said there's something to these words. I saw
Speaker 1: that poem living out in my real life, and I said,
Speaker 1: I have to be a part. I have to be
Speaker 1: a part of this word, this, this written language. I
Speaker 1: have to see it. And your wife is no, she's
Speaker 1: not asient, but thank you so much. She's also ha
Speaker 1: half white and half black. But my people are Germans
Speaker 1: are excuse me, My people are Jewish and her people
Speaker 1: are German. So you're Jewish and black. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like we do. We must have talked about this. We've
Speaker 1: talked about it. I think, yeah, I'm bad, duck, Now
Speaker 1: you're good. I'll b C C drake after this, let's
Speaker 1: start a meeting. We don't have to meeting. I'll get
Speaker 1: Joey Kravitz and d But I have to solve it.
Speaker 1: I just need to like chit chat, you know, bond
Speaker 1: So she's German and black and you're Jewish and black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're raising your children sad exactly. You get it.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna let all that get complicated inside of
Speaker 1: them and see what happens. That's great. Yeah, Okay, So again,
Speaker 1: thinking about what you said with the space landing being
Speaker 1: fake or the moon landing rather being fake, you're suggesting
Speaker 1: that because it was so important to white people at
Speaker 1: the time, it was such a big important thing during
Speaker 1: the Cold War, there's a possibility that they wanted to
Speaker 1: be fake because of the influence it had. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fucking whack jobs out there and
Speaker 1: just make up should and have internet access, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I do know there is a
Speaker 1: part of I think all conspiracy theory that is rooted
Speaker 1: in just crazy people being like I just needed something
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know, I think it's fun. I
Speaker 1: think conspiracy, Yeah, conspiracy theories fun. It's kind of an oversimplification.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a rejection of the government in
Speaker 1: the status quo, you know what I mean. It's you
Speaker 1: just wanna you're dissatisfied with the shitty quality of life
Speaker 1: that the federal government provides for us in the working class,
Speaker 1: so you're like, fuck you, you fake the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and you just yeah, calling it all fake and calling
Speaker 1: it all into questions. I can get where it comes from, yes,
Speaker 1: like I can't get toilet paper, so the government must
Speaker 1: be at fault instead of just like, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of people scrambling for a limited resource, then you
Speaker 1: just have to deal with that. It's like, no, this
Speaker 1: is a big plot by Jeff Bezos to keep my
Speaker 1: ass dirty so that I die in filth and squalor. Yes,
Speaker 1: I I don't know what COVID has to do with
Speaker 1: toilet paper. I haven't figured that one out either. I
Speaker 1: think that people don't actually know where power comes from anymore,
Speaker 1: so they scramble for the thing that seems like it
Speaker 1: would give them some sort of control, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, if you can't work and you can't
Speaker 1: go outside, where else does your power come from? Ass
Speaker 1: is one of the last you know options? Yes, control.
Speaker 1: Everybody's just trying to make their ainus powerful and they're
Speaker 1: scrambling for whatever they can find it. Why but days
Speaker 1: didn't sell out? I have no idea. Oh I'm up
Speaker 1: to my neck. In the days over here, it's like
Speaker 1: we can't go inside. Yeah, that's there. All these the
Speaker 1: days just sort of got out of the days. Every
Speaker 1: in every room, kitchen, living room. Sure, just walk from
Speaker 1: room to room, wash your ass one time and then
Speaker 1: go dat sanitizing my hands and assist. I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you that your well, those have
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Speaker 1: you in cool ship that you have going on? Just
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