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Speaker 1: eat my lunch. I was very detailed in my description.

425
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why you needed to see it in person.

426
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: I just can't. I'm like a kid with a sword tooth.

427
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: I can't stop touching it. I just gotta figure it

428
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: out and scratch that itch. Always regret it. I owe you.

429
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: You never want to press play on snuffootage. It does.

430
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: It always defected afterwards, but you gotta, you gotta poke

431
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, so there's a real argument that Donnie

432
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: Hughes syndrome was in fact what people were associated with

433
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: leper cons and Joe the time decided to turn it

434
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: into like a cute story instead of a horrific disease

435
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: that was affecting people, which we've seen over and over

436
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: again in history. I think you know what you really

437
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: don't want to look up. Don't look up snake baby,

438
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: snake baby, don't look up snake baby, don't look up

439
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: harlequin type of theosis. Tell me more about these that's

440
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: your journey. I'll leave it at that. You have Google

441
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: go and go nuts. I don't want to. I can't

442
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: do it in the middle of the podcast. I'll ruin

443
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: your lunch later. Save it for later. It's a bummer. Yeah, okay, Well,

444
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some time in this next break to

445
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: look up snake Baby. We're gonna do one more break

446
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back with more eric Andre and

447
00:26:50,600 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: we are bad. Yeah, we're back here with more eric Andre.

448
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: We're still talking about that Creighton lepre Con. We're still

449
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: are amazing. Neither one of us were fans of Boston

450
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: until this lepre Con story is I think equally jarring

451
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: and difficult. There's a lot of racists in Boston. My

452
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: experience of Boss is just racist taxi drivers and pre

453
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: uber days. A lot of people telling you that they're

454
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: not going to drive you home. Yeah, or worse, Wait,

455
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: what was worse for you? Well, the worst it's worse

456
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: when they don't know you're black, so they're like they

457
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: start a conversation with like this. Then you know, like

458
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you're about to get like at least ten end bombs drops,

459
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: right that weird looking around, right, yeah, like pre racist ramp.

460
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: Look around. I'm like, go further, I'm right behind you.

461
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have an adverse reaction to this diet trap

462
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: you're about to go on. Yeah, it was right after

463
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: I was there right after at nine eleven. So oh

464
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: so everybody was super cool and chill and not at all. Yeah,

465
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: no races, no, no ramped up racism after that. They

466
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: were just taking it easy and loving America at that point. Yeah, silly,

467
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: all right, I want to play a game. We're gonna

468
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: play one game and then we're gonna get out of here.

469
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: You're down for a game, fu Yeah, okay. This game

470
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: is a very fun game that I like to call

471
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: white lies. You're ugly, you're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you.

472
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: Give me two d. This is a fun game where

473
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: I am going to present Dr Phil. That's Dr Phil.

474
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I think he's quoting somebody on the show and he

475
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: says it and I misused it for my entertainment. It's

476
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: not a real not a real doctor. By the way,

477
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Dr Phil, not a real doctor. Doesn't even have doesn't

478
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: even have a high school diploma. No that okay, hell yeah,

479
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, Dr Phil. He's illiterate, he's illiterate, and he's

480
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: bad at sex. Fun Dr Phil. So here's the game.

481
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to present you with a traditional white stereotype

482
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: or white conspira or c theory, rather one that has

483
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: existed forever and always in society for white people, and

484
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: I would like for you to unpack exactly why you

485
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: think they believe in this conspiracy theory. What is it

486
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: that's driving this conspiracy theory for these white people? Why

487
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: is this important to them? Okay, so recently we passed

488
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: the celebration of the fifty first year for the man

489
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: going to the Moon, for Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin

490
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: and that other guy, Michael Scott I think I don't

491
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: remember his last name, but they went to the moon,

492
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: and that for years since everyone has claimed that that

493
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: moon lager, Miamy, Mike Winslow, he was up there making

494
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: car sounds. Then uh, he was doing trombone in the

495
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: spaceship while Buzz was but our two D two sounds.

496
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: So it's been fifty one year since they went up there,

497
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: and since then we have not stopped claiming that that

498
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: moon landing was fake, so much so that the other

499
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: day I actually saw someone claim that Neil Armstrong backwards

500
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Neil a backwards spells alien, which is a suggestion that

501
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: this is all a big ruse and that somehow him

502
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: being an alien also proves that the moon landing is fake.

503
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'd just be repeating stuff that's said.

504
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: Why do you think that the faked quote unquote faked

505
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: moon landing is so important to white people? Damn, that's

506
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: a good question. I guess because it was such a

507
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: major event and such a cold war chess piece that

508
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: bugs white people out. I don't know. Yeah, so like

509
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: that it was it was excuse me white people for

510
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: me people. I'd asked my dad, Yeah, are you mixed?

511
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: Your dad's white? Yeah, I got your mom must have

512
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: been black cat. Yeah, my mom's pretty black. Nah, she's like,

513
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: uh like dark, I mean dark. She's got like a whoopee.

514
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: She's around whoopee, I think. And then your your your

515
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: dad made love to her? Hell yeah, I hope. So.

516
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: I hope he treated her good when he did. I

517
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: don't want to believe that he was just in and out.

518
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Are they still together? No, My parents have been divorced

519
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: since I was like four. Oh, ship, you still talked

520
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: to both of them. Yeah, they're great people. They're both

521
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: very lovely people. And they did not make it. Then

522
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: there's a rift both of them. Had they remarried. Yeah,

523
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: my mom's been married four times and my dad's been

524
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: married three? Wow, does your dad go for black women

525
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: every time? He's married to black women? Out of the three,

526
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: so he's not doing bad. Which one is? This is

527
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: wife number three and second black lady? Okay, so he

528
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: never went to the original poem, went back, hence the

529
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: poetry bug bait. You sure your father led by example

530
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: and you said there's something to these words. I saw

531
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: that poem living out in my real life, and I said,

532
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I have to be a part. I have to be

533
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: a part of this word, this, this written language. I

534
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: have to see it. And your wife is no, she's

535
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: not asient, but thank you so much. She's also ha

536
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: half white and half black. But my people are Germans

537
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: are excuse me, My people are Jewish and her people

538
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: are German. So you're Jewish and black. Yeah, I feel

539
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: like we do. We must have talked about this. We've

540
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: talked about it. I think, yeah, I'm bad, duck, Now

541
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: you're good. I'll b C C drake after this, let's

542
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: start a meeting. We don't have to meeting. I'll get

543
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: Joey Kravitz and d But I have to solve it.

544
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: I just need to like chit chat, you know, bond

545
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: So she's German and black and you're Jewish and black. Yeah,

546
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: and you're raising your children sad exactly. You get it.

547
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: We're just gonna let all that get complicated inside of

548
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: them and see what happens. That's great. Yeah, Okay, So again,

549
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: thinking about what you said with the space landing being

550
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: fake or the moon landing rather being fake, you're suggesting

551
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: that because it was so important to white people at

552
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: the time, it was such a big important thing during

553
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: the Cold War, there's a possibility that they wanted to

554
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: be fake because of the influence it had. I don't know, man,

555
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fucking whack jobs out there and

556
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: just make up should and have internet access, you know

557
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I do know there is a

558
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: part of I think all conspiracy theory that is rooted

559
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: in just crazy people being like I just needed something

560
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know, I think it's fun. I

561
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: think conspiracy, Yeah, conspiracy theories fun. It's kind of an oversimplification.

562
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a rejection of the government in

563
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: the status quo, you know what I mean. It's you

564
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: just wanna you're dissatisfied with the shitty quality of life

565
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: that the federal government provides for us in the working class,

566
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: so you're like, fuck you, you fake the whole thing,

567
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: and you just yeah, calling it all fake and calling

568
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: it all into questions. I can get where it comes from, yes,

569
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: like I can't get toilet paper, so the government must

570
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: be at fault instead of just like, oh, there's a

571
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: bunch of people scrambling for a limited resource, then you

572
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: just have to deal with that. It's like, no, this

573
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: is a big plot by Jeff Bezos to keep my

574
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: ass dirty so that I die in filth and squalor. Yes,

575
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: I I don't know what COVID has to do with

576
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: toilet paper. I haven't figured that one out either. I

577
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: think that people don't actually know where power comes from anymore,

578
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: so they scramble for the thing that seems like it

579
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: would give them some sort of control, you know what

580
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, if you can't work and you can't

581
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: go outside, where else does your power come from? Ass

582
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: is one of the last you know options? Yes, control.

583
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Everybody's just trying to make their ainus powerful and they're

584
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: scrambling for whatever they can find it. Why but days

585
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: didn't sell out? I have no idea. Oh I'm up

586
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: to my neck. In the days over here, it's like

587
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: we can't go inside. Yeah, that's there. All these the

588
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: days just sort of got out of the days. Every

589
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: in every room, kitchen, living room. Sure, just walk from

590
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: room to room, wash your ass one time and then

591
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: go dat sanitizing my hands and assist. I love it.

592
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you that your well, those have

593
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: been spectacular. Can you tell everyone where they can find

594
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: you in cool ship that you have going on? Just

595
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: come over my house, man, Hell, yeah, go to Eric

596
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: Andres in l A. Yeah, come on my house. Just

597
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: go hang out with him. There, go watch a special.

598
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: It's on Netflix. It's fucking great. And oh you can

599
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: find me at Lengthston Kerman on all the Twitters and

600
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: the Instagrams and whatnot and like and subscribe. And you

601
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: guys were great. Okay, we're leaving, bye bye. Quakers were

602
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: racist layers for ours my money r she's devine to

603
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: this stuff. But I can't tell me about h