WEBVTT - “I’M AN ANARCHIST REBEL” 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.680 Hello, and welcome listeners and watchers of the Therapy Gecko podcast. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:08.560 My name is Lyle. You might or might not know that. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:09.200 It's fine. 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:12.600 It is the fourth of July as of the day 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:16.400 I'm recording this. I am here in Washington Square Park 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.159 in New York City, one of my favorite places on 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.440 the planet, and every time I come here, it's so lively, 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.279 it's so beautiful. 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.120 It's excruciatingly hot. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:33.800 But that's okay, because I sometimes feel as though temperature 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.800 is a thing that can be mentally mastered, you know 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.639 what I mean, Like if I believe that I am 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:45.400 not excruciatingly hot and sweating to death right now, Like 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.600 if I ignore that, you know, if I'm so engrossed 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:53.560 in the conversation that I am having that I am 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.120 forgetting about how hot I am. I think I can 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.000 beat the heat. And so that's what I'm gonna do. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.560 I'm gonna be so engrossed in these conversations today that 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.960 I will not even even be thinking about the temperature, 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:10.160 and I will prove that all physical ailments are simply 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.360 of the mind, or or or they won't and I'll 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.720 have a heat stroke and die. But either way, I'm 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.520 gonna talk to people as a get go. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:17.560 Let's do it. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:19.680 My name is Judah. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.199 Judah. 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:21.600 Nice to meet you, mans, pleasure to meet you. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.559 Like all right, So I'm gonna give some context real quick. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.920 A lot of the times, like when I walk over 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.679 here to like set this stuff up, I'll encounter people 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.039 off camera and we'll have a little chit chat because 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.520 there's so many interesting characters here at the spark. And 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.920 so I saw you, Judah, on my way over here 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.360 to set up, and you had a little table and 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.280 two chairs, and I believe you had a little sign, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.559 the little sign what's what did the signs say? 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:55.680 The sign today said what sparks your Ah, damn, I 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.960 already can't remember. I think I said what sparks your imagination? 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.960 What sparks of curiosity? Or like something like that. Yeah, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:03.600 something like that. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.040 And so you had a sign, and I was it's 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:09.400 like we're kindred, we're kindred spirits, as they say, both 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.480 set up in the park to you know, have conversations. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.720 I mean, my sign is in green. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:16.200 But well, here's what. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.160 I thought was really interesting about you is I was 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:19.880 talking to you and I was like I came up 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.400 to you and I was like, hey, man, are you 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:22.200 making content? 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.160 And you were like, no, I'm just chatting with people. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.919 And I'm like, oh my god, you're so uh You're 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:28.640 so much. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.639 Pure of a human being than I am. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.920 You know, I feel like, uh, I feel like, you know, 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.840 honest to God, swear in my life. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.560 This is something I would really enjoy doing. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.120 Even if there wasn't if there wasn't a camera a 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.920 camera here, but I I like, uh. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.040 You know, I like this so many good lines and 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.160 they have to be captured and they have to be shared. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.560 I mean, you know, like who else will talk about, 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.799 you know, their knees exploding in chain mail? Like it's 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.520 someone's got to capture that. Yeah, that's that's your role. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.880 Well that's yours. So let's talk about this. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:03.200 You you said you've been doing chats with people in the. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.080 Park for six years. 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.160 I just set up a table, two chairs and assign 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.280 different forward question each time, and people can write in 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.040 this little journal if they want, But it's really about 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:12.640 the conversation. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.160 I got inspired because there were just a lot. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.120 Of I mean, there's a lot of characters all over 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.200 the world, especially in the city, especially in Washington Square Park, 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.920 and I didn't want to walk up to people and 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.400 be like hey and start talking to them, or stick 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.720 a microphone on their face or something. So I want 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.840 to create a platform. So the best I could come 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.120 up with was a table and two chairs and sat 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.560 down and wait to see what happened. And you know 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.560 a lot of people, when given the chance to express themselves, 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.040 they will and if you kind of approach them with 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.640 no judgment, with an open mind and just an open ear, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:54.320 people will be vulnerable. People will open up, and it's 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.280 a beautiful thing when they do. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.680 I gotta say, it's so interesting because, like, again, you 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.480 and I we were essentially doing the same thing, but 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:06.320 there's such a different dynamic to the fact that you 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.640 just do it and you don't have a camera rolling 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:10.680 or a microphone roll. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.280 Yeah, yeah, tell me about that. 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.320 Do you think that if that significantly affects your conversation? 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.680 So it's so interesting because like I would ask people, hey, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:20.160 like if there was a camera here, do you think 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.640 you did answer different? It's a mix. Some people said yes, 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.480 some people said no. But I actually, just recently, just 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.599 the last couple of times I did it. I actually 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:31.120 have a microphone now because it's just sitting there it's conspicuous. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.039 It's not like, you know, not a microphone like this, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.560 just a recorder. Because I had way too many conversations 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.400 that were just absolute gold, and in so many ways 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.360 it's like, really stuff that I don't necessarily need to share, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.560 but I definitely want to recollect on and like refer 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.760 back to from my own reference. And it was just 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.200 slipping through my fingers. Like I looked back at my 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.360 journal from three years ago and been like, just had 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:55.480 the most mind bending conversation about life with Lyle, and 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.120 I wouldn't have know the fuck they said, I just 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.560 will have no recollection of it whatsoever, Yeah, you know, 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.080 And I felt like, Okay, so this is sliding through 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.440 my fingers and I want to be able to potentially 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:08.800 turn this into some art in the future. So I 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.320 don't know, and probably I like writing, so probably writing base, 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.520 but I just have no real recollection and I wasn't 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.599 disciplined enough after each time to go and write about 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.760 it or anything like that, so instead I was like, 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.320 let me just start recording and then I can work 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:23.760 with it later. I have a little disclaimer. It just 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.440 says like, if you'd like not to be recorded, let 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.120 me know and we'll see. So far it's been people 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.640 have been just as you know, the same. But I'm 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.120 sure for some people if there's a recorder there, they 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:33.840 would be different. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.000 So how did you first get into doing this? 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.000 Well, I was just it was just curious. I mean 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.080 I was just sitting here. I was really high. I 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:43.839 was like, damn, there's a lot of really cool stories 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:44.760 around here, aren't there. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:45.239 Yeah. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.039 But again, like es suchally as a man walking up 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.200 to people, they're gonna be like, what's the catch? You know, like, 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:52.880 what's the what's in it for you? Why are you 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.320 talking to me? Sure, that's New York City in a nutshell. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.680 But once you kind of make it more consensual and 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.640 they come over like hey, what's this? Just like you did, 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.400 you know, you'll find that people just willing to chat. 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.560 Well, it's nice for I like doing the form. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:09.719 I'm not a big I mean sometimes I've done that, 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.320 but like you know, like the running Gun Street interviewers 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:13.320 like like I feel. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:16.360 Like, uh, yeah, it's nice to set up a thing. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.040 I mean, like people can come to you because you're 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.760 creating a space. You're not catching people unaware. Like it's 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.640 it's like right now when we're doing this like, yes, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.160 we're in the park, but this is a space. It's 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.839 not just because you set up chairs a sign and 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.719 everything right right, and of course you can't. 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:33.400 Forget the get Go park. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:37.400 So I feel, how did you start doing this? 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.200 So I just one day, I just got a table 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.680 two chairs off Facebook marketplace and just sat. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.280 And there was no like, there was no impetus, there 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.440 was no no like real trigger. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:47.560 Oh. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.800 I mean I think like a two years earlier, I'd 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.160 seen someone set up with like a big folding table 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:54.360 with a microphone that said tell me your secrets. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.520 And I asked him. I was like, hey, people actually 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.320 tell you the secrets. He goes Yeah. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.680 I was like, you'll just you just hear people will 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.400 just come up just build their secrets to a microphone. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.520 He goes, Man, I've heard the wildest shit. You wouldn't 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.800 even know the half of it. And I think that 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.120 was like I planted a seed. Sure, and then I 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:17.120 was high and unemployed six years ago and then was like, 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.040 screw it, let me try what's what's that can happen? 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.280 I spent a nice day in the park, and what 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.360 inspired you to dress up as a get go and 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.000 put green on your face and get people to just 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:26.640 be themselves. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.040 Well, I started doing this as like a I mainly 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.160 do it as like a phone call, right thing? 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:31.600 Right? 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.040 But today I actually, you know, it's funny. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.040 I actually I sat down to record the phone call 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.040 version of this podcast. This episode was gonna be a 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.280 phone call episode, and I got like twenty minutes in 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.040 and I was like, I cannot sit in this room 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:46.360 right now. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:47.440 I have to go outside. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.520 So I was like, it was basically like, right now 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.000 is my version of like, you know what, it's a 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.840 nice day, let's do class outside today kind of a thing. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.640 Wait, so do people just like do you say when 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:57.960 you're going live and then people ring in? 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:58.840 Like how does that work? 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.360 I go live on Twitch and people okay, got it? 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:02.600 Okay? 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:02.840 Yeah? 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.640 But so I have a question for you. Do you 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.760 do you consider yourself an open book? Do you talk 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.800 a lot about your like, what was it? What was 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:13.160 your question today? What sparks your It was? 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:19.360 Damn it was? What what sparks? What memory sparks? 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:19.640 Joy? 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:20.040 Okay? 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:21.440 Joy? For you? 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.400 Do you answer your own questions? 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:24.600 Yeah? 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:24.920 I was. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.000 I really want to tell you, but I know you 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.959 have a large platform, but fuck. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.080 It, I'm gonna do it anyway. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.080 I was on a very powerful psychedelic with my friends 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.920 on on a lake, a frozen lake in. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:48.199 February, not this past we'd a February and we were 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:49.640 we we we we. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:52.880 Took we took acid and we just went outside, not 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.839 really knowing it was cold, but we're like we played 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.240 it for eight hours like little kids, just like a 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.760 running around, you know, like your mom could just like 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:01.960 let you out of the house and you'd just come 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.520 back eight hours later and yeah you did who knows what, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.559 but you had a great time. Yeah, it was exact 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.000 because like we you know, often when you're on psychodols, 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.640 you kind of have like a childlike wonder and we 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.240 were just playing on the lake and there was this 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.640 one moment where we had this game where the lake 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.760 was frozen and we would run as fast as we 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.160 can without slipping, and then like slide as far as 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.480 we could and we just like you could get the 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.560 fur this, you know, yeah, and we're all like giggling 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.240 twenty five year old kid, you know, like it was 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.720 fun as hell. And at one point we just like 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.040 pause and the sun was setting and it was we're 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.280 in this valley and like the mountains were We're lit 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.760 up this orange hue and it was like beautiful, and 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.560 it it like stunned. It stunned us, like we stunned 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.400 us into silence. And at that moment, as we're stunned 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:48.319 to silence, there's this huge v formation of geese like 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.080 passing over, like migrating or something, and there's like a 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.720 squawk and there's this lone squawk that just echoes through 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:59.680 this pristine valley, and I was it felt like I 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:00.319 was in a painting. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:01.960 And we just look at each other. We were like, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.800 that was such. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:09.040 A moment that was just pure and wholesome and beautiful, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:10.560 and fuck, I think we've peaked. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.319 And by the way, first of all, I'm sorry. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.960 But first of all, the funny thing to me that 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.800 I was gonna say is like when you when you 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.440 were like, oh, I want to tell this story, but 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:21.319 I don't know if I should. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.079 I was expecting something way worse than just you took it. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.120 This is acid. Yeah, honestly, it's not that big a video. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.880 This is everyone here and. 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.160 This radius of us are on acid right now. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:33.760 That's true. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:34.200 That's true. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:34.719 Yeah, that's true. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.240 That's that's really beautiful, though, that's really yeah. How many 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:38.000 of your friends were there? 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:39.000 It was three of my friends. 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.319 Yeah, and it was the only time that group of 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.600 was like, you know, different disparate friends from different groups, 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:43.559 but it was the only time that the four of 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.760 us got together. And god damn it was a good group. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:46.560 How long was it? 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:47.560 That was. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:50.959 Five years five or six years ago? 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:51.360 Yeah? 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.280 Probably around the time. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.319 Yeah, yes, twenty nineteen, so a long time ago, chasing 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:56.160 that high ever since? 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.000 Really you so you say that that that you peaked, right, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.319 do you believe in I you know, it's funny. I've 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.720 been thinking about that concept, the concept of peaking and like, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.920 you know, having best stages of your life and you know, 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.360 is youth better than being eighty or you know what 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.440 I mean? Like like can you put qualitative? 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.480 Can you? Can you? 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.400 Can you objectively? Or I know, I guess it's not earticularly, Okay? 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.520 Do you have subjective definitions of parts of your life 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:26.680 that were better or worse than others? 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:27.120 I got? 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.040 I got, Well, I think you know, if you're going 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.320 through some big life changes or there's harm to people 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.319 in your life, yeah, that can be worse for sure. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.200 But I think what you're what I think you're alluding 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:37.760 to is the fact that you know, people look on 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.240 youth and they're like, oh, it was so good to 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.960 be young, And in many ways it is right, Like 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.560 you're in some of the best health of your life. 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.240 You can do some of the most stuff in your life. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.800 You know, you're in many cases, so you know, the 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.040 most attractive you'll be in your life for you know, 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:52.680 for some people. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.800 Subjectively, Again, I'm not saying that'scessily true. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.600 We're seeing Helen Mirren and Zaddi's bro. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.480 I mean that's like in there right now. I'm hoping 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.440 to be a Zaddy myself. But actually it's interesting you 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:07.240 clue that, the clue into deeper into that bring it 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.839 back to psychedelics. As a child, everything is so new, 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.160 and as you move through the world and your building 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.599 this model of the world, and it's like whoa, Like 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.480 everything's cool, exciting, Like even just something like going to 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.360 a new place is like whoa. But as you get 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.640 older and it's not. It's as you get more experience 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.560 that you also get more routine. You start packing more 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.439 things into your life, Like how many times do you 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.400 remember brushing your teeth? No, I do exactly, You don't 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.079 remember the distinct times. You've done it thousands of times, 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.679 but you don't really remember it because your brain just 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:31.520 condenses it. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.040 I can probably count how many times I've lost though. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:36.679 Don't we all right? 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.840 You know, as a dentist always says that, right, But 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:40.280 you know, but at the end of the day, like, yeah, 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:41.880 it's gonna hang out with the same people, you do 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.080 the same things. Your brain's gonna condense it down, right, So, 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.559 and as you get older, you just get more to 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.599 the same people, so your brain just shrinks time. And 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.360 it's like, you know, that's why youth seems like it's 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.160 so long and so exciting. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.079 But if you live your life differently. And I've spoke and. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.840 Yo, oh hey you know that you know this guy. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.240 He's a great guy. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:02.160 What's your name? 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.200 I got I'm at I just had six vegan hot 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:05.760 dogs today. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.959 It's six vegan hot dogs. How much is that? Is 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.120 that the equivalent of zero regular hot dogs? 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:13.360 Right? 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.920 Yeah? Yeah? Calorie wise like nutrient efficiency? 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.400 Yeah, how many calories are in six vegan hot dogs? 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:19.880 I don't know. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.240 They didn't tell me. They wouldn't tell me any details 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.520 behind it. Who's they the guy that ran the hot 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.439 dog getting contest. Oh I only had six, but the 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:28.120 winner had ten. 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.040 You weren't that far off. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.600 I know, I was so close. I could have had it. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.600 Wait but my interrupting therapy right now. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:34.280 A little bit. 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.440 But that's that's okay, okay, it's all part of it. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.360 Yeah, we all therapize in our own way. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.480 Well, uh, you know, is the green? 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:42.600 Does that work as sunscreen? 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:43.560 No? 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.760 No, no, I'm probably in some form of physical danger 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.280 right now. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.360 Do you have ac under there? 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.280 No? No, but a nice gust of wind just came by. 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:54.240 That's nice, it's nice. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.640 I'm a good gus. Come on, and I love this 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.360 guy too. Judah yo, Juda is the man. I don't 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.200 know why he would be in there because he's so cool. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.120 And wait this but hey, everybody needs there? 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:05.960 What this is this? Wait? How do you know this guy? 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:07.880 You're a Canadian coin? 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.600 Wait, that's a Canadian coin. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.359 Looks like it. He actually sat down to my little project. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.520 Oh, this guy, Adam sat down on your What did 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:16.520 you and Adam talk about? 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:16.880 Oh? 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.440 You remember the years ago? 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.560 It was like two years ago. But it turns out 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.480 I learned that he also went to Binghamton like me. 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.400 Oh really went in college. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.360 We have different entrepreneurial ambitions and we're similar in a 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:27.880 lot of whiz. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.160 That's cool. Wait, wait when did you When did you 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.200 guys meet two years ago? 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:32.640 We met it? 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.400 All right, okay, yeah, I guess you guys are still friends, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:35.840 it seems. 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.240 And then I saw him in the park a couple 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.480 of weeks here. Yeah, hey, I know you. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.200 We were doing we were doing a giant hug. We're 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:43.840 doing this thing called a super hug. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:44.320 Yeah. 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.040 Have you ever heard of this? 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:45.280 No? 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.040 I so you would be very much about this. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.160 Well, maybe what's a super hug? 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:49.880 Basically, you put. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.600 Your left arm up, another person puts their left arm up, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.120 and then you touch hearts and they give a deep 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.240 hug for at least like I think ten seconds. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.520 Like a virgin orgy kind of Yeah, yeah. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.720 Like a safe orgy. It's like a family friendly orgy. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.880 Man like you legitimately like feel calmer afterwards. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:08.880 Did you have you hugged anyone today? 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:09.640 Yeah? 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:10.600 You want to hug? 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:11.120 Yeah? 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.080 All right, we got a hug for the cameras. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:15.800 They're hugging right now. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.640 Wow, look at that Pride Month has extended into July. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.720 You guys are hugging a long time. You can. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:33.880 You can slap, but you cannot. Okay, makes sense. I'm 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.840 just gonna I'm just gonna sit here while they hug that. 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.400 Released the ox, that released the serotonin. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:40.640 Do you want to get go? 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:41.200 What? 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:47.920 Uh uh? Sorry, I have to finish this interview. But later, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.200 later we can do that. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.680 Good to see you too, Mane. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:58.160 How was that Hug released some serotonin? Yeah, that's feel squeezed. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:15:58.760 That's good. 0:15:59.000 --> 0:15:59.240 Yeah. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.440 Wait, I have completely forgot what we were talking about 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:01.880 before him, but. 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.200 I oh yeah, no, don't condense your memories. Live you 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.080 can live life differently. I spoke to old people who 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:06.640 lived there. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.440 They're like, oh, my best life was, My best time 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:09.240 was in my sixties. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:09.760 Yeah. 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:10.920 Yeah, I love that I've had. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.040 I remember coming out here to do this podcast and 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.200 I talked to some guy who was like fifty eight, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:16.840 and he's like, oh, life's the best it's ever been. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.280 Yeah. 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.760 No, I think I think it's it's it's bullshit of 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.480 the youth, that youth has to be the best. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.680 Like I think our society tells us that, our media 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:24.160 tells us that. 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.240 But honestly, no, he's I think your best times are 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.000 it's in it's here it's how you react to things 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.280 that happen in your life. Not your life will always 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.160 be happening. Questions are you gonna how you gonna react 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:34.360 to it? 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.240 My dad is sixty six years old, and I was 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.040 I was talking to him on the phone like last week, 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.560 and he was like, you know, I've noticed that the 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.680 less years I have left on this earth, the less 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.400 anxiety I have. And I and I it's true, I 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.080 think he's like he like, you know, it's fine. I'm 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.040 twenty seven and I'm like always I'm like having like 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.600 weird excidental crisis about death and whatnot. But it's like 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:00.160 you see, like those dudes in their seventies just it's 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.720 like just chilling. They don't even yeah they're not they're 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.560 and they actually they you know, they could die any 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:06.000 fucking day. 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:07.840 And it's like, well, it's one of. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.280 Those things that like, you know, when you have the 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.440 prospect of it being taken away, then I feel like 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.720 you can also value it more. Like you get a 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.120 cold and you're like, fuck, I just want to breathe 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.440 again through my nostrils, right, But then once you can, 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:18.960 you totally forget all about that. 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.720 So Judoh, what's your what's next for you in life? 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:23.160 Next? 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.760 Your ultimate dream goal? 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.000 What not ultimate dream goal? I want to live a 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:30.879 day without time? 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.000 You want to live a day without time? 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:33.400 Yeah? 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.360 You mean like oday where you don't check your. 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.320 Like I just do never know what I wake up 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:41.359 and I go to sleep without ever once knowing what 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:42.080 time it was. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:43.600 What's skipping you from doing that. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.440 Myself? Honestly? 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:50.119 Yeah? 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.159 Yeah? I mean do you have any meetings? Do you 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.280 have the meetings? Meetings? I just got laid off, so 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.679 you know, let's I got no meetings. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.199 What were you? 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:02.200 What did you get laid off from some technol tech bros? 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.960 It like an AI web three AI AI thing. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:10.680 Yeah, but I'm gonna look for my next AI thing 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.600 to hopefully not make a part of my personality at all. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.280 So you but you were working in AI? Yeah, something 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:17.280 like that, so as you know. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.760 But I have a curious about your perspective as somebody 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:23.640 who both values genuine human connection and has worked in AI. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.720 Do you think that, uh, do you think AI is 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:28.840 coming for genuine human connection or do you think will 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:29.240 be Okay? 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.080 I think a lot of the same people who are 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.480 relying on technology now for connection and it's not doing 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.760 the same thing, arguably the same people who rely on 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.120 AI for connection, and we'll be doing the same thing, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:45.520 but we're there. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:49.040 Will be easier. I do I do worry. I do worry. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:50.439 I mean, there's a lot a lot of kids now 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.160 we're using it as therapists. I and it's not even bad. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:55.480 Have you tried using AI for therapy? 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:57.200 I use AA for therapy all the time. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.800 Actually, yeah, it's pretty good in it. Yeah, it's got 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:04.080 it's he's got some pretty objective, well well grounded. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.879 I genuinely do I like AI for therapy. It's just 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:07.399 you have to. 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.120 I think when people try to make it like it's 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.320 not a friend, it's not your friend. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.280 It doesn't it's not you don't, it doesn't love you people. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.399 But people do re lean on it as such, and 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.440 I think there will be people who do. But there's 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:21.879 also gonn be a generation of kids who look at 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.760 this and be like fuck that counterculture, and they'll be 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:25.720 anti I. They'll be anti tech, they'll have flip phones 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:26.120 and all that. 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:26.919 Yeah, they re do. 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:28.200 They were doing that. Yeah. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:29.680 I was talking to someone. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.240 I went to this like film festival at a dive bar, 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.600 like a few weeks ago, and I was talking to 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:42.080 this guy who's like in a band, and he was 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:43.919 he was like in his thirties, and he was like 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:48.000 talking about like, you know, being at this Like I 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.000 was asking him, like what the punk scene is like now, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.320 and it's like there's still like you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.560 eighteen year old kids who are like goss, you know 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.000 what I mean, there's still there, Like yeah, and it's 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.440 twenty twenty five. They never look kind of crazy because 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:03.879 it's like back at that, like people were doing that 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:04.320 ship in. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.199 Like the eighties, and it's still they're on it. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.040 They're still under there's still underground raves. There's still you know, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.000 there's they like the kids will be all right, right. 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:13.400 I think they'll be fucked up in their own way, 0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:14.840 as we were fucked up in our own way, as 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:16.879 our parents are fucked up in their own way, but 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:17.639 like they'll be all right. 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:19.920 Do you feel do you feel sorry? 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:21.960 I'm checking my ship to make sure you do you 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:23.399 feel fucked up in any ways? 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:25.919 Ooh, that's a good question. 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:28.919 I mean, I think one of the reasons why I 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:30.920 sit in the park and talk to strangers is because 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.560 I have like a deep need I want to be 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.800 liked by I want to I want to leave a 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.639 positive impression with everybody I meet, not necessarily be liked, 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.720 but at least leave a positive impression. 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:46.639 I have that ex I have that exact same design, 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.520 and like, I want to leave a positive impression. And 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.919 I and I've had like times where because I sometimes 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:59.720 people well both like in like my personal life and 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.119 in my gecko life, like I I try to I 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.119 want people to come away having a positive experience. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:09.600 For me, I fully submitted myself to the fact that 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:11.840 it's just never gonna be a hundred You're never gonna 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:12.800 be one hundred percent success. 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:13.439 Do you think? 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.840 What do you think of the differences in yourself between 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:17.080 your real life and your get go life. 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:18.880 Well, Gecko life is like. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.800 Like I'll tell I've told I've told the story on 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.160 this podcast once, but I'll tell it to you. I'll 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:29.120 tell it again. Is so I do like live shows 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.720 where I dress up as the gecko, and and after 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.160 after my shows, I do like a little like it's 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:35.399 I do. 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:36.680 It's like a free meet and green. 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.960 I don't make people pay like a ticket price for it, 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.760 and like I just stand around and I meet everyone 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.320 after the shows. And I did a show in Austin, 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:48.159 Texas once, and I said, there was like a hundred 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:50.320 people in a line. I sat there for like said, 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.000 there for like an hour and a half, like meeting everyone, like, 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.560 and I was it was very important to me that, like, 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.520 you know, in those interactions, like I want people to 0:21:57.680 --> 0:21:59.800 come away feeling good. And I was like thinking about 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.280 that and I was, you know whatever, and I do it. 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.359 And like there was like a security guard at the 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.320 venue and he was like, I've never seen anyone who 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.840 played this venue stay after the show and do that. 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.760 And that made me feel so good. And then Judah, Yes. 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.879 The next morning, I go, I'm this is just me 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:20.560 being like mentally ill. I go, I checked my own subreddit, 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.960 which is a thing you only do if you're mentally ill. 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.560 And I looked and like, there's a post on my 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.560 subreddit being like I am no longer a fan of Lyle. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.280 And it was like I was at Lyle's Austin show 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.080 last night and I went to his meet and greet 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.800 and I told him I was high, and he gave 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:44.439 me a weird look and I told him and I 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.080 also told him it was my birthday, and he for him. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.280 He did not even say happy birthday. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.879 And I was like, she was like, I got I 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.080 bought merch and I'm trying to sell it if anyone 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:55.879 wants to buy it. 0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:00.080 And I was like, come on, man, and you know, it's. 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.399 The dangers of a parasocial relationship. 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.440 I've told the story on the podcast for but whatever. 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.680 Like it's fine. I told so. I told that story 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:10.160 on the podcast and then I got a comment on 0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:15.320 on my podcast from her and she wrote something like 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:18.359 she wrote like l O L sorry I was being 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.479 a bitch or something, and I wrote back, I was like, oh, 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.560 it's totally cool man, happy late birthday, which was kind 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.960 of nice because in life you never ever, ever, ever 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:29.119 ever get closure like that. 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.960 It's nice that even from a little interaction. 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:33.399 Yeah, but I have I have. 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.440 Stuff like that where I'm like, uh, you know, or like, 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.280 I don't know, you ever walk away from a conversation 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:43.120 being like, oh man, I think I was pretty annoying 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:44.440 in that conversation. 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:46.320 Yeah, I was quite. 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.200 Quite a few times. Yeah, it's an ever improving uh 0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.560 discipline in art to try to I think if you're 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.879 not looking back and cringing, then you're not growing. 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:57.040 Yeah, I agree. 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.680 I agree, you know, I agree. I'm still a firm 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:00.440 believer in that. 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:06.280 I feel like, you know, you you should probably try 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:10.119 to keep the cringing less hard, but still keep cringing. 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:10.800 Does that make sense? 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:11.080 Yeah? 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:12.879 Oh yeah, you don want to beat yourself on Yeah, exactly. 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.159 You want to have the I this is one of 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:16.479 the things I feel like I talk about a lot. 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.720 It's like there's an optimal level of conscientiousness to have, 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:27.000 Like like some people are so conscientious and don't want 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.720 to offend people so much and they don't want to 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.200 cause any amount of ruckus, so they never take any 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.720 chances or ever do anything ever, Okay. And then there's 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:38.440 some people who are not consciousness at all, conscientious at all, 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.399 and they just like fucking full send it all the 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:45.920 time every day, which of course lends people in trouble 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.720 as well. So you want to have the right I 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.680 feel like you want to have the right amount of conscientiousness, 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.439 skewing towards having less conscientiousness. 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.760 I you know what I think, I think I agree 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.520 with that. It's an Aristotle's golden Yeah. 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.479 Aristotle's gold to me, of course, of course, is that 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:03.480 is that did he come up. 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.440 With that well, he basically just said out with all 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.160 types of qualities, like you know, between courage and cowardice, 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.600 Like you know, if you're too courageous, you'll get yourself. 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:11.120 Killed in combat. 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.280 Yeah, you're too you know, a coward you'll never stand 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.200 up for anything, and there's something in between. 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:15.320 You know. 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:19.360 I'm gonna give you an example. Your friend Adam. Yeah, 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.080 seems like a nice guy. I really did not want 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:22.640 to hug him. 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.760 I know, I know, but he he is the kind 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.840 of person who will want to hug everybody. 0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.680 But but but in my head, I was like, oh, man, 0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:32.359 I guess, I guess in my head, I was like, 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:33.480 I feel like kind of a jerk. 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:35.600 I should have set up and be like, oh, got 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:36.280 the keup on you. 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:37.920 You know, no, it's not a big deal at all. 0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:39.600 But I was like, oh fuck, I'm being kind of it. 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.000 But also it's like you have to you have to 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.240 have the right amount of like ah whatever, just fucking 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.119 hug the guy versus. 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.720 Like, you know what, I don't I'm gonna not. 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:53.399 Yeah yeah no he yeah yeah. He Also I'll just 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.000 he is a club promoter, was a club promoter. 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.119 It seems like a nice gentleman. 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.440 Yeah, Yeah, that's that's That's the the other thing I 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.000 really know about him. To be honest, I don't remember 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:03.280 anything else. 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.280 People ask me this question all the time. I truly 0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:07.280 never know how to answer it. 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:11.520 But what's the most memorable conversation you've had? 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:15.040 M I mean, do you want me to get dark? 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:15.320 Deep? 0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:15.760 Funny? 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.480 I mean, let's do a dark one and a funny one. 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.679 Dark one. I spoke to someone who he comes up 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:24.919 to me. 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.879 His skin's all yellow, not in a racist sense, like 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:34.200 his jaundice, and he just goes, I got three months 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.399 left to live. What advice would you give me? And 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.639 I'm a twenty five year old kid. I was like, fuck, 0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.040 I don't remember what I said to him, but I 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.159 remember he cried and we hugged, so I think it 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.240 made a difference to him. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:48.600 Wow. 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.800 I try to be as upbeat and positive as I could, 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.240 but man, I mean that was a hard one. I mean, 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.160 because all this stuff about it's gonna be all right 0:26:56.280 --> 0:27:00.160 and all that stuff. Young, he's like probably in a six. 0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.199 These you know, did you keep in touch with them 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:03.560 at all? 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:04.400 No? 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.040 No, And he just walked away. And I mean, I 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.440 think a lot of the beauty of the conversations is 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.880 when they just kind of, you know, they don't keep going, 0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:12.560 you know, and it's just kind of that's the interaction 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:13.000 of itself. 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:14.760 Yeah, it's where you're like, did I hallucinate that? 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:15.400 Yeah? 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:19.399 Yeah, Yeah, so that was that was a heavy hitting one. 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.400 I mean, uh, I don't know more in a more 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:23.160 lighter sense. 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.080 I guess, well before we move on, Yeah, I'm curious, Uh, 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:29.760 how long did you talk to this guy for? 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:33.680 It's hard to remember. I mean this is years ago, 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.680 probably like half an hour or so. I mean most 0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.640 of my conversations go like thirty minutes to an hour. 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:40.760 Yes, cry it together. Do you remember, Like what do 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:42.800 you remember, like what it set? What was the point 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:44.800 where you started tearing up? Or was it just kind 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:45.439 of like a graduat. 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.560 I think it's when we were trying to focus on 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.000 what he had, what he had lived, and like examining 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:52.760 the people who have been there for him and like 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.040 taking gratitude for all that. Yeah, And we discussed how 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.720 it's so difficult often to talk to the people who 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.440 you love and tell them the things that you love 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:04.000 about them. Like for some reason, people get really awkward 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.040 when they start saying what they love about you and 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.040 but like it's way easier to be critical and like 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.600 because when someone makes you feel bad and to be like, 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.199 well it's how you'd X Y and Z. But like, 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.760 you know, we choke up and it's harder to get 0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:18.240 that out. I think we're talking about how he's like, yeah, 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.760 I haven't said that enough to the people I love 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.160 in my life. I need to go back. I need 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.200 to tell X, Y and Z this and. 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:25.600 Who do they have to tell? 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.399 And then you had a daughter. I believe you had 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:27.800 a daughter. 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.719 Yeah, and uh who he was like just getting back 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.480 in touch with once he got his terminal illness. Yeah, 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.480 sh it's not not not light, but it was it's real, 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.440 you know, and it's it's real and it's happening around 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:40.040 us all the time. 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:41.680 Oh yeah yeah. Uh. 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.920 You know it freaks me out a little bit. Is 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.800 that death is not like an event at the end 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:52.960 of your life. It happens every second. Interests think about 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:57.600 death is a thing that happens every day, Yeah, you know, 0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:58.680 every moment once. 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.760 I mean, that's what I get essential about. 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.680 Yeah, you think it's well, there's two ways you could 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.160 take that. You could be like, dead is happening around 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.240 you to all the people around you. Eventually it hits you, 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.840 right or you are dying every moment and you will 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:11.200 never get the past to you back, and all you 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.160 can do is move forward, which gets really inspirational. 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:13.520 Right. 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.560 Well, yeah, that's how I that's that's how I think 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:17.040 about it. 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:18.120 You know, I don't know. 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.160 It's not a it's not I think it's a I 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:25.520 think that that is. I was talking about the conscientiousness spectrum. 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.560 I think that's an overly conscientious way to live, Okay, 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.200 you know, I think I think that's why. 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:32.520 Yeah, like you should. 0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.320 You should think about the fact that you're gonna die, 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.280 because it puts a little bit of pressure on you 0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.200 to like do certain things. 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.160 If you think about too much, you can see if 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:41.920 you can't. 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.800 Actually live every day like it's your last, otherwise you 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:45.600 will not have a saving exactly. 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.840 So exactly. Too much consciousness is bad. 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:49.120 Yeah, it's bad. 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.000 You don't want to be you want to again, there's 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.360 optimal amounts of consciousness. 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:53.720 I think. 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.280 Okay, what's the what's what's the funny one? 0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:57.760 Funny? 0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:02.840 Okay, funny is a hard one. Oh, there was a guy. 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.800 There was a guy who spoke to me who all on. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.120 Sorry and keep talking, checking to make sure to speak 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:08.560 to myself. 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:12.240 Yeah, there was there was this guy who he sat 0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.720 down and he just does this and he's like, hey, 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:17.440 h what are you What are you doing here? 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.320 And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm just talking to people. 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.720 And then he does this and he just like falls over, 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.840 like falls over in the chair, like like spends like 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.000 twenty seconds studying it. And I'm like Jesus christ Man, 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:31.400 like are you okay? Yeah, he's a clown. He guy's 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:31.880 a professional. 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:32.600 Oh he's a clown. 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:33.400 A professional. 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:38.040 He's like he's a fucking asshole. That's such a dick thing. 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.120 Well, he would have someone to me if someone came 0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.120 If someone came up and was like hey can I 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.520 sit there and then just started like destroying my setup, 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.440 I'd be like fuck you. 0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.640 In his defense, he was just moving the chair around. 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:52.360 Okay. 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.560 He was good. He was He wasn't like knocking over 0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:55.720 the sign or anything like that. 0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:57.600 But then he would like put down his his thing 0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.440 and like it would like knock over. He's like the 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:04.800 dude was like so clumsy, clumsy in like a clean way. 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.000 I was like I respected it. And he was also 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:08.840 a comedian he was also I feel he was also 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.920 fucking hilarious, So that was just but the guy was 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.880 just like having me in stitches the whole time, and 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.040 he was just like you know you, I mean, you 0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.680 were one of these people, but you meet someone you're like, oh, 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.479 you're a character. Sure, yeah, and he was like a 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:27.000 true character in the in in the purest sense, and like, yeah, he. 0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.600 Forgot his name already, but yeah he was. He was funny. 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:34.160 Yeah, yeah, maybe he wasn't I you know, I think, yeah, 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:35.680 I don't know. I think I think the part of 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.800 me that wants to like if someone came up and 0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.240 did that was like destroying my stuff. I think I 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.440 would have u you know, there's like two wolves or whatever, 0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:45.800 and I would and I would definitely have one of 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:46.640 the wolves. 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:47.160 In my mind. 0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:52.080 Uh, and then the other wolf would be like, it 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.120 is pretty funny. 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:55.560 It was pretty funny to do that. 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.240 It was you had to see it, you know. 0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.960 It's a very clowning is a very uh gotta see 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:01.240 to believe it kind of thing. 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:01.960 Sure, for sure. 0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.320 Yeah, wow, Judah, Yeah, it's just so cool. It's just 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.840 so awesome that you've been doing this for I appreciate what. 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:09.280 You do too. 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.840 I've been following your your stuff for a while and honestly, 0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:16.160 it's it's remarkable what you get people to open up about. 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.120 And then what the the the. 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.280 Range of the human condition that you capture is I 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.640 think one that anthropologists in the future will have a 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:26.920 wonderful time going through. 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.040 But you know what's funny is I feel like, I 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.880 mean you've been well, yeah, you mean you've been doing 0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.200 this longer than I have. I I can't imagine I've 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:40.640 I've covered many topics that you have not already. 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.840 From different angles, sure, yeah, from different angles. But yeah, 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.760 it's it's just, uh, the same book translated in two 0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:46.400 different ways. 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.800 Yeah, I find that one very green. 0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:50.800 And you know, yeah, well. 0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:51.760 I find that a lot of. 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:58.960 Humanity struggles and joys are quite common. Like you know, 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:03.000 is thoughts aren't particularly unique, nor a situations are. 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.880 This, And tell me if you agree with this. 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:08.240 I feel like these kinds of things makes you believe 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:11.320 in the power of cliches. Yeah, like you know what 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.080 I'm saying, because like, you know, I read that line recently. 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:14.920 It really stuck out, and I'm like, oh, because you 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.560 can say, never judge a book by its cover, you know, 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.800 like you never know. I always treat everybody with kindness 0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:21.640 like you treat yourself. 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.600 And it's true, it's true, but. 0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.720 It's you don't really internalize that lesson until you put 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.040 yourself in these kind of situations and expose yourself to 0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:33.480 people's actual, more deeper and more nuanced situations and stories 0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.520 that it starts to really internalize. And then that's how 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:38.080 it actually translates into action, because just hearing it does 0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.840 not translate into action. And that's partially what this is 0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:45.400 an exercise of, is repeatedly making sure that I don't 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.400 jump to conclusions, that I don't create a space of 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:48.960 judgment and that sort of thing. 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.160 So that's the Yeah, I like that. 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:51.960 Okay, that's gonna be. That's gonna be. 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.480 My takeaway from our conversation is, don't judge, don't jump 0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:58.080 to conclusions, don't judge a get go by its skin, 0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.640 beautiful juda else you want to say to the computer 0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.120 before people in the computer? 0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.200 Yeah? 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:08.400 Uh is also a cliche. 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.680 But and I don't know who needs to hear this 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.640 right now, but you are enough and that's okay. 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:17.960 Oh man, Oh I don't I I feel like I 0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:19.200 always wonder about that. 0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:21.800 Oh no, oh shit, my parting message has a quick. 0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:22.760 Why your parting message? 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.279 I feel like I just had a conversation on the 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.160 show about this, but I don't know, if I don't know, if. 0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:31.000 I don't want to hear no, no, you can't, you 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.320 can't say that. And then well I have two wolves. Okay, okay, 0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:35.040 what's one wolf? 0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.440 Well, one wolf? I think one wolve is is. 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.720 Very capitalists in the sense of like, no, you must 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:48.239 produce value of some kind or push yourself through your 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.840 extra through your extrinsic. 0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.600 Extra is that extrame is extrinsic extrinsic actions. 0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.400 And then the other part is more like, uh, purely 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:00.000 just exist. 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.680 Thing is fine. 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.480 Outside of myself, Like I don't. 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:08.719 So you apply for yourself personally, Yeah, I. 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.759 Know, I think about myself personally, think about like. 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.480 But you use that wolf to drive you, like to 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:17.200 drive you like like like on a larger scale, I believe. 0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.239 I do believe like everyone is enough like as they are, Like, 0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:20.880 you know, I don't. 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:22.840 Think you should have to change what about what about 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:23.360 this message? 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:27.480 All right, well, your message could be whatever it is. 0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:34.239 You know, still a little little asterisk there. You are 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:40.080 enough unless you're not producing anything. For the American economy, 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:43.279 in which case you can go fuck yourself, just. 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.160 Like the big beautiful Bill told you to go fuck 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.440 yourself too. That's a good as. 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:54.560 I guess, well, okay, you know, no, like okay on 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.520 my and my personal level, right. What what bothers me 0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.480 about the you are enough thing is like I have 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:06.080 been at times deeply unhappy. And when you're deeply unhappy 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.799 and somebody tells you, hey, man, you're enough, you want 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.480 to kill them because you're like, if I were enough, 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:12.719 I wouldn't be so unhappy, like. 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.919 When you're depressing, like it's gonna be okay, and you're like. 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.200 Fuck you, Well, well that not even that be like 0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.520 like like if you're like miss if you're like miserable 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:22.400 or you're do you don't feel good? Do you have 0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:25.680 you feel a yearn or you feel depressed, and people go, 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.799 you're doing fine as you are, It's like no, I'm 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.840 I'm If I were enough, I wouldn't be struggling, you know, 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.560 And so that's I think, Uh, that's part of the reason. 0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.920 I but it's so you know, it's uh, it's a 0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.200 weird Uh. I don't know how you would refer to it, 0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.760 but it's it's it's paradoxical in that sense because also 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:52.480 the struggle might be you know, there's two I feel 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:56.759 like there's two ways to uh be happy, which is 0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:58.759 and again it's a it's a spectrum. 0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:00.719 It's uh the uh. 0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.640 You can either get everything that you want and be 0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.320 satisfied or not want anything. 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.480 And I think somewhere, I. 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.400 Don't think you'll get everything you want and you're never 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:14.959 gonna get it. I think even if you get everything 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:15.920 you want, you won't be satisfied. 0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.120 So actually that's where Buddhism comes in, right, just release 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:19.760 yourself from all wants and you're good. 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:22.440 Yeah, but you can't do that. 0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.760 That's a boring that's a that's a boring life, releasing 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:25.880 yourself from all wants. 0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:30.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean life, life is fun when 0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.480 you when you chase desires. 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.160 For sure, I think, well, I lie somewhere in the middle, 0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.640 because you're never gonna I lie somewhere the middle. 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.520 Because if you are the Buddha and you're sitting under. 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.040 Baby, golden mean golden mean if Yeah, it's the because 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:43.759 like if you're if you're the Buddha and you're sitting 0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.520 under a tree, you never want anything and then you die. 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.839 It's like you sat under a fucking tree your whole life. 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.400 That was that was stupid. Why'd you do that? But 0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:53.680 then if you if you're like I must have one. 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.520 But then if you're like, you know whatever, you're elon 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.920 musk and you're like I need to have three hundred 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.360 billion dollars and I'm insane, and you like your wants 0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:04.120 are completely unchecked and out of control, then you also 0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:04.839 missed the point. 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.239 So you want to you want to again, that's true, 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:07.719 that's true. 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:08.120 That's true. 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:14.320 Okay, So so okay, you are enough, but you're also 0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:14.960 gonna grow. 0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:17.000 I like that. 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:18.040 I like that. 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.000 You're enough as you are, but you shall be more. 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.560 There shall be there shall be more, you know. I 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.359 like that. Yeah, you are enough, but there shall be more. 0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.160 Yeah, okay, I like that. We gonna end on that, 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.840 all right, Jude, very nice to me. I followed the 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:34.560 can you want to shout out your thing? 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.399 Oh no, no, it's not for that, Okay, cool, It's 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.040 only for people who sit down and speak. 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.360 Dude, your rock man. Uh, that's so awesome. 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.880 I have a deep I have a deep respect for you, 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:47.000 but I really appreciate it. 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.400 I try to keep it, keep it intimate, keep the 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.000 engagement with the people who actually have a stake in it, 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:56.359 and not passively you know, found it or something like that. 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:56.600 You know. 0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:58.560 So very beautiful, very beautiful. 0:38:58.600 --> 0:38:59.960 All right, bro, keep this up. 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.640 I love what you're doing and can't wait to see 0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:03.960 what absurdy you have. 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:05.160 You edit this into. 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.359 Jud I'll I'm sure if you're here often, I'm sure 0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:08.959 I'll see you again. 0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:09.640 Yeah, of course. 0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:16.600 Man, I gotta say, I'm I'm very inspired by by 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.560 that conversation. You know, I feel like, oh, what's up? 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.920 Oh yeah, he left his back back. I'm very inspired 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:23.840 by that conversation. 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:25.840 Uh you know. 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.960 Oh, oh someone took a photo. Oh let me see 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:33.719 this photo. Oh oh here, Oh that's such. 0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:37.839 A great photo. Oh that's such a great photo. Oh 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:38.520 I really like that. 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.520 Wait here, hold on here, you know what I have 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.640 your Instagram. I'll send you all right you want if 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:44.680 you can take a picture of it right now, and 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.600 I'll also send you a picture I'll for the folks 0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:52.319 watching this on video, I'll post the Yeah, check that out. 0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.759 Wow that's a beautiful polar And I love that. That's 0:39:54.800 --> 0:40:01.399 really nice. That was a beautiful conversation. I always love 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:07.480 meeting another kindred spirit of talking to strangers at the park. 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.040 I like that he doesn't record it, you know, I 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:15.000 feel like I like recording this. 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.680 But I do feel like if you know, in if 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.200 in how old am I twenty some? 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.920 If I if I'm like fifty five and the Internet 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.840 has been destroyed, I will continue to try to find 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.560 ways to do fun shit like this. 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.560 So who knows? Do you want to talk? What's your 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:35.120 what's your name? 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:42.359 Sir? I'm I guess, I guess shure, I'm guess. I guess. Yeah. 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.600 I was just gonna give you a fistbut the way 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:45.320 I greet people. 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.080 So what is what is this pamphlet? It says affinity groups. 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.640 It was in my hand when I wasn't paying attention 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:55.360 and I had a hamster on it. It's Full Extinction Rebellion, 0:40:56.160 --> 0:41:03.239 which is a climate activist group that's extremely individual led. 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.279 It's not really much of an organization. It's like a 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:06.600 collective of lots of individuals. 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.960 And are you one of these individuals in this collective? 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:13.200 I mean vaguely, yeah, very vaguely. 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:16.319 I think, like what a Thunberg is like the most 0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:17.760 famous of the individuals. 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.200 So Greta Thunberg is in the extinction rebellion rebellion. Yeah, 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.200 so tell me what is extinsion? Extinction rebellion. 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:29.360 It is sort of just like a citizen led movement 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.160 to try to push environmentalism very very hard in a 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:37.960 sort of pressing way, and also to work outside of 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.520 governmental structures which are generally not going to be supportive. 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.960 Interesting, how does like, how does working outside of how 0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.120 does one work outside of governmental structures? 0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.799 A lot of it seems to involve bothering people and 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:50.680 getting arrested? 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:52.400 Cool? 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.279 When it was the last When was the last time 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.840 you bothered somebody and got arrested? 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:56.160 Oh? 0:41:56.280 --> 0:42:00.359 God, uh twenty twenty you do? 0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:04.120 Yeah, that was just like I think that was something 0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:07.400 everyone was doing back back in the day, like doing 0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.799 Black Lives Matter Corona times. It was just the thing 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:16.040 to do bother someone ghetto rested, you know, and like 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.320 the clubs aren't open, so you gotta do something. 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:21.120 Sure, Sure, how long have you been? 0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.719 How long have you identified as an extinction rebellionist? 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:28.120 Probably like only a month? Is it? Due you? 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.520 I always see them at protests and I've like seen 0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:34.640 them online and stuff doing stuff, But it's like very 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.919 easy to get into. You basically just like start going 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.880 to groups, to the meetings, or you just like find 0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:41.799 some people and like sort of sign up. 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:42.320 Cool. 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.080 How did uh? Okay? 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.760 So you've only been here for you've only considered yourself 0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:50.080 an extinction. Rebellion, rebel, rebel. I don't know why I 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.080 I thought. I thought I had to add something to rebellion. 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:57.320 It is part of it, yeah, rebel. 0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.680 One of these days I got to figure out like all. 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:04.040 The pres and suffixes and various etymologies of the English language. 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.040 So I can just make up whatever the words I want. 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:07.920 But you can make up whatever words you want right now. 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:09.280 You can't. 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:10.200 Can't. 0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:10.759 You can't. 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:13.400 You can't because they have their own rules. Like someone 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.319 tried to pluralize moosse the other day. 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.640 You just, what do you mean there's rules? 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:21.600 You you just handed me a pamphlet about rebelling against 0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:25.000 the government. There's no you're I would assume that you're 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:26.959 the most anti rule guy. 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.320 What do you mean there's rules? What are you talking about? 0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:34.160 I guess there's there's organizational structures which we have control 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.719 over instead of having control over us. Yes, so they 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.960 are anarchistic organizational structures to our language. 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.440 How is an I think if you're an anarchist, you 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.760 should have intentionally horrible grammar. 0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.560 No, that's not I mean that can be what anarky 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:51.600 is about to you. 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.240 But that's not what it's supposed to be about. 0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.960 But how can anarchy be supposed But this isn't the 0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:58.880 whole point of anarchy that nothing is supposed to be 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.920 about anything when we create a own realities. 0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.320 No, that's like nihilism. 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:05.440 Anarchy is like a very complex and well thought out 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:08.239 political movement that was buried after the eighteen ninety anti 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:13.600 Anarchist rebellion because anarchists were assassinating political leaders like McKinley 0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:14.640 and the z Are of Russia. 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.799 Wait, so uh, and the the assassination of political leaders 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:20.240 was what led to the downfall of anarchy. 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.200 Yeah, because literally every world leader in the world got 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.400 together in eighteen nine day and so have decided to 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.400 make anarkizzy the one political philosophy they would never ever tolerate, 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.080 and they sort of made it into like a swear world. 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:36.600 But does an anarchy in But doesn't anarchy intentionally? Doesn't 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.759 anarchy imply violence in some way? 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:40.520 No, not at all. 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:44.280 Anarchies are very I mean, obviously there was some violence involved, 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.000 taking out political leaders like Eugie Mannio in it, right, Yeah, 0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.160 it was like yeah, but in general it's a very 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:54.799 anti war, anti oppression, anti state violence, fro woman pro 0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:59.680 environmentalist movement. You see, Like the closest thing the anarchy 0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:03.160 function today is in Rojava and Northeast Syria. Yeah, it's 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:06.480 called democratic and federalism, and it's like very tied to 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.279 women's rights and to uh environmentalism. They're like a very 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.960 strong anti Isis force in that region, and that enabled 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.560 them to create like a sort of pan ethnic group 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:21.080 out of an original sort of Kodish struggle based group. 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:23.719 They're like, they're the only country in the world where 0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.120 the government legally has to be half women. Whoa yeah, 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:31.080 Assyria in Northeast Syria. Yeah, in Rojava, it's really an 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.120 important place. They don't talk about it a lot here 0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.879 because he would like to think that Muslim people are 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:40.239 misogynistic and that they don't want peace or democracy. But 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.759 when you leave them to their own devices, you get 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.200 the full political spectrum like everyone else, but you also 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.920 get I think predominantly progressive people. 0:45:47.960 --> 0:45:50.880 Oh right, so let me all right, so what is 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:55.840 your name again. Oh guess Arcuss? Who are you Arcus? Okay, 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:57.799 I feel like August Arcus. 0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:02.920 Well that's that's who I am. Okay O guess Arcus. 0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:07.920 I guess no, it just Oucus. It just sounds like 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.080 a guest when I say. 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.359 Okay, Arcus, Arcus, Arcus Arcus, Well, okay, listen, Arcus. 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:13.279 I'm curious about this. 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.279 We've talked, We've spent a little bit of time talking 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.520 about your beliefs and what you stand for. But what's 0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.759 the biography? Who are you? What are you doing? In 0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:20.200 New York? 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.400 I teach wilderness skills and I feel like no one 0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:27.080 teaches it. H could to Cidy right, so fabits well 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:28.760 maybe needed most. 0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:31.319 Whoa who do you teach wilderness skills to? 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.080 Whoever wants to learn? I have an Instagram. It's my 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.839 name and then my last name. The ttis spell. Your 0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.480 first name is also hard. Ye're hard to pronounce too? 0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:43.440 How do you spell? 0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:43.640 Name? 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:48.080 Was Ao c U s Ao b O r I 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:50.760 and yeah, it's weird. 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.400 How did you get into doing a wilderness survival? 0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:57.840 I started when I was fifth When I was thirteen, Yeah, 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:01.120 and I just took like a program simil of the 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.759 ones that I teach now and it got me like 0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.279 in the door, and then I just really delved into 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:07.879 it and aside it was what I wanted to do. 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.759 Cool full of I'm still of like an anarcho primitivest, 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.479 which is like a subsection of anarchy. It's deeply tied 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:18.759 the idea that agriculture and civilization actually created and enforced 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.440 the systems that we don't like, like dominance. Hierarchy is 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:27.040 an authoritarianism, misogyny, bigotry, anti homophobia. 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.960 I can ass you something like because I feel like 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:34.200 I'm I feel like both on an individual level and 0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:37.920 on a societal level, humanity is a fight between our 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.439 biological natural instincts. 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.640 And our higher, more beautiful human. 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.360 Aft and I one hundred percent false. 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:51.319 And I think that uh, society in the individual is 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:56.040 the attempt of reconciliation between higher human principles in conflict with. 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:00.000 More our basic primitive. 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:03.600 Yeah, one hundred percent false. That concept came from foud. 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:07.600 It was deeply, deeply racist and anti indigenous and Victorian 0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:12.560 are instinctive set of moality was designed to help us 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.960 survive in the wilderness. Everything we think of as good 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:19.000 and moral is actually an evolution is it? It reinforced 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:23.200 by evolution right, Because to have healthy relationships in a 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:26.120 beautiful community is to be able to survive in the forest, yes, 0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:28.280 which it is hard to do individually. To have healthy 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.800 gender relationships is to be able to split work between 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:35.440 two genders. Uh, and to allow you know, allowing for 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:40.480 filled genders and not havingnorativity. Sure, everything I think intrinsic 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:44.320 to us that makes this beautiful and human is very 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:47.719 animalistic and natural and what what? 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.279 But are we but we we have something though as 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:54.640 human beings we have something new that's like like we 0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.400 got something that the squirrels don't. We have some higher 0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:02.040 consciousness that we're reconciling with in some way that creates 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.640 broader spectrums of good and evil and whatnot. 0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:07.160 We have. 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:11.640 A conscious mind is more part of our experience. But 0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.759 we have the same elements to our being as are 0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:18.600 though animals, especially like schools. Schools make complex decisions. Schools 0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:19.600 think months in advance. 0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:21.480 They do they are they really? Yeah? They? 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.520 I mean why do they think they bury acorns? They 0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:25.520 know that those acorns are toxic to eat in the 0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:27.760 fall because they have too many tannins. If they bury 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:30.520 them underground, the snow melt will wash the tans out 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:32.360 and though something eat in the spring when there's not 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:33.000 a lot of food. 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:34.480 Otherwise they would just eat all. I don't know. 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.879 I listen, listen, I feel like I mean like dog 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.360 like hamsters. Right, you got a hamster on this pamphlet, 0:49:39.600 --> 0:49:41.600 like I do. I don't know if hamsters are thinking 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:44.520 about you know, hamsters aren't like Ah, maybe in a 0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:46.279 year or two I'll go back to grad school, you 0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:46.759 know what I mean. 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.520 Well, hamster's only live with like five years old, so 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.600 they don't have to think that far ahead. That's true. 0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:55.400 Animals that live a long time think further ahead. Animals 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.360 that have human life lifestyles often of human like types 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.600 of intelligence, which we've value more and we value the 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.840 skills they have more, but they're not inherently superior to 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:05.520 the skills all. 0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.399 The animals have. We just remind us of ourselves more. 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:13.839 And that ties deeply into castism and racism and capitalism, 0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:17.640 because if you are an engineer, you're living a type 0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:18.160 of lifestyle. 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:19.959 It's very different than a duck. 0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.960 If you're a farmer or a hunter gatherer, your lifestyle 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.279 is not actually that different than a duck. No, so 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.080 it's easy for someone to say, oh, you're more like 0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:31.000 an animal, so you're worst than med your skills don't. 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.239 Know, No, no, no, no, no no, no, it's well, I'm hold on. 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:37.000 Well, the idea of like humans are a combination of 0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:40.120 our like higher humanness and our animalness is is not. 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:44.320 There's no quality. I don't put any qualitative judgments in it. Yeah, 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.040 I'm just like, I just feel like that that is 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:50.400 one of our central conflicts as conscious beings. 0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:53.040 I mean, I feel like when you focused, when you 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:57.680 don't unite your logic and your knowledge with your emotions 0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:01.080 and intuition and connection to nature and your uality, Yeah, 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.080 then it makes it easier for you to fall astray 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:08.279 because our mind's be able to conceive of falsehoods to 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.960 an intensity and to a degree that although animals might 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:13.239 not really do as much. 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.919 What have you ever, like in your personal life, found 0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.239 yourself slipped away into any falsehoods? 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:20.000 Oh yeah, I mean it's pretty easy as a human 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.520 to loan and misinformation and not question that. 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.319 It's illogical. What was the last falsehood that you slipped into? 0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:27.799 God, I can't, I don't know. 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:29.279 I only know the ones I slipped out of the 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:31.520 ones I'm frobably slipping into new ones all the time. 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.480 Do you feel how sure are you that you don't 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.520 live within some sort of falsehood right now? 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:39.040 I'm fairly sure. 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.200 I have a pretty decent idea of how the world works. 0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:44.719 But I'm sure there's something I believe that's incorrect. 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:48.600 How do you feel like you gained a decent idea 0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:49.800 of how the world works? 0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:50.920 Is that even possible? 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.960 I think so. I like a very rough in general. 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:54.760 Why sure? 0:51:55.200 --> 0:51:56.800 Yeah, I have a question for you. 0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:57.480 Yeah, what's up? 0:51:57.520 --> 0:51:59.239 Why don't you never lick your eyeballs? 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:00.520 Try? 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:02.440 I don't like my yo. 0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:06.759 There's been times I've had like like I had an 0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:08.880 ex girlfriend who licked my eye on one. 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:09.960 I actually really liked it. 0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:11.600 Ex school friend not couldn't go. 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:13.040 It didn't work out. 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:16.680 But when she licked it or not, well yeah, current. 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:19.239 When she liked it? No, yeah, yeah, I get what 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.440 you're saying. Yeah, no, I didn't. I wasn't like, hey, 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:23.120 I know we haven't talked in a while, but if 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.640 you could you come lick my eyeball? 0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.520 Yeah? No, no, no, it was old time to say yeah. Yeah. 0:52:27.560 --> 0:52:29.200 Sometimes when you don't get something out of the way 0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.520 into relationship, you need to try it afterwards. 0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:34.200 No, I feel like I feel like once you guys 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.440 break up, eyeball licking is off the table. 0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.360 How's your dating life? Are you seeing anyone? 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.080 Are you hopefully at some point? Okay? 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:45.120 Yeah, I'm like a relationship. I'm a wife guy, smiling 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.879 wife guy, firing wife guy. Yeah, aspiring stay at home dad. 0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:49.479 Yeah? 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.439 Are you, like, have you gone on any dates lately? 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:53.320 Have you met anyone? 0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:54.600 Not? Look? 0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:55.240 Yeah? 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.160 Well I usually only gave people, I know, because I 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:02.080 feel like your gool friend can finally be you blow 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:06.000 and also your roommate and then like totially the post 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:06.520 and you fuck. 0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:07.560 Who is a butte that you like? 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:11.840 I I will say, I actually think dating people, you know, 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.200 it's a double edged sort because I think, like like 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:19.280 dating apps and whatnot, they've allowed you to extend outside 0:53:19.320 --> 0:53:21.840 your network to go on dates, so that like, you know, 0:53:22.200 --> 0:53:23.560 because like I don't know, Let's say you have like 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.960 a coworker or a friend, or like somebody who's like 0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.920 already in your life. You express romantic interest in them, 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:32.879 and it's not, uh, it's not it doesn't pan out. 0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.759 It's like it's it's like now a part of your 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.160 existing life has been corroded in some way, shape or form. 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.040 But dating apps is like, oh, if this doesn't work out, 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.759 it's great because we have two completely separate. 0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:45.520 Lives, disposable individuals. 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.279 Yeah, but yes, it also was the double edged sword 0:53:48.320 --> 0:53:50.880 of it does make human it does. It does by 0:53:51.000 --> 0:53:53.839 nature make the process of people more more disposable. 0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:55.160 I mean, I. 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.400 Feel like if you're not in a place where you 0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.680 can have a mature relationship with you flanned that involves 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:04.280 an attempt at romance that doesn't work. You might also 0:54:04.360 --> 0:54:05.680 not be in a place so you can have a 0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.080 mature romance with anyone. 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:07.560 I don't know what. 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:10.200 I don't know if it's about maturity. I don't know 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:11.960 if I don't know if that's about maturity. I think 0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:15.360 it's about just like emotional, It's about like general emotion, 0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:17.160 you know. I think you can be like two mature 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:20.040 people who are like, we cannot be around each other 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:22.680 every single day because it will cause too much pain. 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:24.960 I think I don't think that's necessarily I mature. 0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:27.799 Yeah, But then I feel like that's a little I 0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.520 feel like if you had that deep into the situation 0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:33.080 where you're like you want to be to gather and 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:36.480 somehow can't and it's just like dreadful. Then I'm not 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:39.239 sure that a dating app is gonna change that aspect 0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:42.160 of because then you just get I don't know, that's 0:54:42.160 --> 0:54:44.719 a niche, A niche, an unpleasant situation. I hope not 0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:45.200 to enter. 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:47.560 What's your ultimate goal in life? 0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:50.000 I just want someone to lick my fucking eyeballs? Man, 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:54.560 I want I want eyeballs to lick rick? 0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:54.880 Can you? 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.680 I don't think you can lick your own eyeball? Is 0:54:57.680 --> 0:54:58.320 that possible? 0:54:58.760 --> 0:54:59.200 Probably? 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.080 I hope, y bro, you heard the star of that 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:04.040 guy who got his ribs removed so he could lick 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:07.440 his own eyeball. Well actually, wait, well, okay, you know 0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:09.480 what's crazy is if you can get your ribs removed 0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:11.239 to make it so that you can suck your own dick. 0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:13.640 I wonder if there's like certain cheek bones that you 0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.080 could get removed so you could lick your own eyeball. 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:19.120 I guess you could remove the eyeball itself that. 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:21.440 Yeah, oh, and then like like pop it out like 0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:24.520 Shakespeare's style with the skull, and then like liqu put 0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:24.919 it back. 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:26.080 Yeah, that could be kind of cool. 0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:29.840 I don't think that guy did that. That was like 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:32.239 a rock star. There's no fucking way that guy did that. 0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:36.680 Can I ask you something I'm curious based on your 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:40.080 social and political ideologies, are you an optimist or a pessimist? 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:41.120 A big optimist? 0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:41.680 I love that. 0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:45.120 Yeah, that's wonderful even in because people are you know, 0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:48.400 people are scared. Man with big beautiful Bill and AI 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.600 and life and people, people are scared. 0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:50.759 You know. 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:51.879 Are you optimistic? Yeah? 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:52.800 It's like a poo abble. 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.840 I think like the more you learn, the more depressed 0:55:55.840 --> 0:55:58.839 and tail you are the world is. And then at 0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:01.920 some point you just starts like going back again and 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:05.080 you end up happy again. Yeah, you're like a happy 0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:09.440 like old wise monk, yeah, instead of like a depressed teenager. 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:12.640 Yeah. Yeah, we gotta take back. 0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:15.640 We gotta make woke this fun We gotta make we 0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:18.359 gotta make woke this funny. Like there's this great quote 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:20.839 I heard by a guy talking about Confederate statues, like 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.439 we gotta make some anti racist statues, and we've gotta 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:26.640 beat it with volume, just like holds of anti racist 0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:28.000 statues all over the South. 0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:29.799 What would your anti racist statue be? 0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:31.959 I mean, I feel like my version of that would 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:36.120 be like actually funny and good to be around woke people, okay, 0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:39.239 like cause I think humor is mostly based around like 0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:42.600 referencing people have heard before being really inappropriate and sexual 0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.440 and a little bit offensive and being charismatic and just 0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:49.360 so sounding and looking funny. And there's no reason that 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:53.080 a super woke, non problematic person can't be great at that, 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.480 And I actually think they should be better at it, 0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:58.439 because if you're making fun of something that's wrong, that's 0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:00.920 also like inherently a lot because it's just sort of 0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:03.840 like based and dumb is like an absurdity to it 0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:08.080 that you're making fun of, and that's super humorous. Like 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:10.000 we have sticks up of assis and we don't ever 0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:12.480 say anything funny, so no one likes us. But if 0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:14.960 we just like went off on like the misogynists in 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.640 the Oasis and talk about how fucking stupid they were 0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:20.240 and how they were just like dumb idiots, and like 0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:23.120 we're funny and interesting about it, I think people would 0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:24.160 drive with it super hard. 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:25.480 Do you have comedians that you like? 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:27.720 I like a guy named Richard Acasta. 0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:32.000 I think I know it. He's a James a Caster. 0:57:32.560 --> 0:57:33.200 It's a different guy. 0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:33.520 I don't know. 0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.120 Wait, maybe it is James Acasta. He's like a British 0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:36.880 guy with wet hair. 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:39.040 Yeah, are you do you like George Carlin? 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:43.439 I like George Colin too. Yeah, he's pretty good. Richard 0:57:43.480 --> 0:57:45.480 Aycaster is good because he's like kind of funny looking 0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.160 and he gets real mad and like he also just 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:51.080 talks about like really random shit, but it's always something nuts. 0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:53.760 It's always about like the British Museum should like stop 0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:56.920 stealing people's paintings, if you shouldn't like go to a 0:57:56.960 --> 0:57:59.240 club to shoot on the girlfriend. And also just like 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.440 funny stuff, like his town is weird socco chants and 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:04.920 like he lives in some random ass like village in 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:06.400 England and it's like funny. 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:08.680 And he has like enemies who are like teenage boys. 0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:10.840 Wait, I feel like I wanted to ask you more 0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:13.480 about your personal biography as a human being, and I 0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:14.680 we talked a little bit about it. 0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:17.520 What do you What do you do all day? Man? 0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:20.480 I like look for students and I loan stuff and 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:22.880 I think about stuff, and I like plan. 0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:25.240 I spent a lot of time. 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:29.120 Sitting and like flea planning, like talks and lessons I'm 0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:31.240 gonna give and how I'm gonna wad them, Yeah, because 0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:31.760 I would. 0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:33.240 With kids in the forest a lot. 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:36.480 Yeah, And that's like a recipe for danger and chaos. 0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.200 So you have to literally have everything like flee woaded, 0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:43.720 but also be saying it like at random spontaneous intervals 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.480 in between stuff happening that you didn't expect to have 0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:47.680 any way to plan for. 0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:51.080 Oh hey, that's all. There's a parrot guy who's saying stuff. 0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:52.280 It's crazy parrot guy. 0:58:52.320 --> 0:58:57.720 He's gonna bite you. It'll be okay. He's a taste 0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.000 for human flesh. 0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:01.440 Guy. Terrible. 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.160 Wait, crap, I'm trying to remember what I was gonna 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.320 ask you. Oh, yes, I want to know this. I 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.080 want to know this. You seem to you think, you 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:08.520 seem like a man. You think a lot. 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.240 About uh uh. 0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:13.520 Philosophy and consciousness and all these things. Where do you 0:59:13.560 --> 0:59:14.880 believe we go when we die? 0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:15.600 Do you believe. 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:18.240 Consciousness to seeds and it's the same. Do you believe 0:59:18.280 --> 0:59:22.080 there's an extra dimension in which our consciousness flows or 0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:23.439 what do you think? 0:59:23.600 --> 0:59:23.880 Oh? 0:59:23.960 --> 0:59:26.520 Man, I mean I feel like that's a very grain 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:27.480 of salt question. 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:28.200 Yeah. 0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:31.880 For me, the only way I can really say is like, 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:35.400 I feel like we go to join the ancestors and 0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:38.840 watch all over the future generations of living people. I 0:59:38.880 --> 0:59:42.200 feel like o body we give back to the land, 0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:45.680 and then it becomes the bodies of all children and 0:59:45.720 --> 0:59:48.560 great grandchildren, yeah, and of other living beings. 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:49.760 Yeah. 0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:53.840 And I feel like before we are borne, were sort 0:59:53.880 --> 0:59:57.920 of part of the universe in some logical or spiritual 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:01.360 we're carbon and shit it at least, I mean I 1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:04.320 feel like, well, before we're born, in a sense, we 1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:05.800 are the universe. 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:06.360 Yeah. 1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:08.360 And and I think in a more postals that I 1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:10.440 think we were like a spirit I would define it 1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:13.040 as like a spuit. And so you sort of when 1:00:13.080 --> 1:00:15.520 you're born, remember that ship. And that's why babies are 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:18.120 like sort of wise looking, and why they know how 1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:21.520 to swim, and why they like low and extremely fast 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:25.560 and like seem to like be really like precognate and intuitive. 1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:27.680 And then they just sort of been really dumb. 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:30.640 Yeah, and the max dumbness hits to like age seven 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:32.800 or so, and then they start to gain more of 1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:34.320 like a human intelligence. 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:35.040 Bro. 1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:39.120 I like, I love that thought idea of like babies 1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:43.480 are secretly extremely wise, yeah, because they were just they 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:46.000 just came from being the universe. 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:46.720 The universe. 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:50.080 Yeah, it's yeah, you know what, It's cool right because 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:51.760 I feel like the more, the most in touch with 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:56.160 the universe you are is the when your presence, you know. 1:00:56.440 --> 1:00:59.720 And I feel like babies are so deeply present, yeah, 1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:02.440 and so deeply connected to just like yeah, the uh 1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:04.360 I mean kind of like we were talking about with 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:07.959 the last guy, kind of the the the novelty of life, 1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:09.760 you know, everything is so novel to them. 1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:11.280 Oh my god, That's why I love kids. 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:13.040 One time I was with a kid and I saw 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:15.160 him sit down on a log and he was like, 1:01:15.760 --> 1:01:17.360 this is the this is the first time I'm ever 1:01:17.480 --> 1:01:18.080 gonna sit. 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:20.680 On a mossy log. And then he sat on it 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:22.280 and it blew my fucking mind. 1:01:22.960 --> 1:01:25.760 I was like, wow, that was literally the first time 1:01:25.800 --> 1:01:27.600 he sat on a mossy log and I saw it. 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.600 So you are an aspiring husband and stay at home 1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:33.360 dead Yeah, very okay. So are you looking so I 1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:35.000 has to stay home dad? Are you looking for like 1:01:35.600 --> 1:01:37.920 like do you want to date? Like uh, like a 1:01:38.120 --> 1:01:40.000 like a rich powerful woman? 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:42.040 Fuck? Yeah as hell? 1:01:42.200 --> 1:01:46.480 Yeah, little auto like more confident like somehead's so like 1:01:46.560 --> 1:01:49.919 still willing to have a couple of kids, Definitely that's sick. 1:01:50.000 --> 1:01:52.680 You ever, like, uh, you ever like take strolls down 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:53.920 Wall Street and whatnot. 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:57.360 I think those women might be a little I don't 1:01:57.400 --> 1:02:01.240 know something Sometimes women just like at as corrupted by 1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:04.360 shit as guys are somehow, and it seems. 1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:04.720 Sort of weird. 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:07.640 But like I heard, I don't know this weird story 1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:11.040 that like doing the Russian Revolution, like the women in 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.560 the Zar's family will like pro evolution, yeah, even though 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:18.920 they were specifically like getting executed by the Revolutionarias Like, 1:02:19.280 --> 1:02:23.200 there's this idea called genealogy which actually comes from Java, 1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:29.040 which ties feminism misogyny very very closely to all forms 1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:33.840 of oppression and also two anarcho priminitivism and indigenous cultures. Sure, 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:36.840 anti third wave feminism and the idea of just feminity 1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:38.439 in general is being a positive trait. 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:39.120 Sure. 1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:42.440 I've also feel like our society sort of just takes 1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:45.600 ninety percent of the human experience so decides it's trust 1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:46.120 for goals. 1:02:46.760 --> 1:02:49.400 Well, like, what okay, give me I can can you? 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:51.480 Can you list? I want to know? 1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:54.400 Oh yeah, lest give me three things that you feel 1:02:54.480 --> 1:02:56.400 like should not be just for girls? That you feel like, 1:02:56.480 --> 1:03:00.200 are our society conditioned to be just okay, like, okay, like, 1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:00.880 let's do it. 1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:05.960 Yeah, parenthood, looking attractive and having emotions. 1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:12.360 I have to I, I honestly, I have to disagree 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:16.600 that I think those are that conditioned for women, parenthood. 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:19.600 I mean, I don't know, you think I was the 1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:25.040 last time you hold the phase patonal instincts, my paternal instincts. 1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:28.160 Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, Okay, okay, I'll actually 1:03:28.280 --> 1:03:30.240 hand you that the people was the last. 1:03:30.080 --> 1:03:33.280 Time you wanted a random guy to you've never met 1:03:33.360 --> 1:03:34.919 to look after your five year old daughter? 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:39.000 Give me that. I'll give you that the last time 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:39.600 he saw a. 1:03:39.640 --> 1:03:42.320 Guy my age call an eighteen year old girl cute 1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:44.920 and assume he was just like talking about it as 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:47.040 a kid and not as like a partner. 1:03:47.760 --> 1:03:51.560 Literally, I'll say, I'll say, I don't see, like, Okay, 1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:54.680 you know, the whole looking attractive thing. Yeah, most it's true, 1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:57.280 like you know, cosmetic brands and whatever else of that 1:03:57.680 --> 1:04:00.560 stuff is yeah, marketed towards Yeah, I'll give you that. 1:04:00.600 --> 1:04:01.280 What's the third one? 1:04:01.680 --> 1:04:04.840 We're just having most emotions, having emotions, most emotions. 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:06.200 Are the men are coming around on I think men 1:04:06.240 --> 1:04:07.120 are coming around on emotion. 1:04:07.800 --> 1:04:10.320 It's getting better. I think all of them getting better. Yeah, 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:12.720 there's definitely a weird backlash going on with like the 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:17.400 weird fucking I don't know, like glow guys, whites, fucking 1:04:17.800 --> 1:04:18.840 all white cloud. 1:04:18.960 --> 1:04:20.920 But like, I think most guys are getting I think. 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:26.480 Like, like I generally feel as though, like, uh, like 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:29.640 if you're like, like if you're a guy these days 1:04:29.720 --> 1:04:32.800 and you have like a group of like dude friends, yeah, 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:36.919 I think most this is just like complete anecdotally, Yeah, 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:38.959 I feel this in my group of dude friends. But also, 1:04:39.000 --> 1:04:41.479 you know, I think like younger generations too, like friends 1:04:41.520 --> 1:04:44.400 in high school and ship are willing to be like yo, 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:47.200 I love the homies. Yeah, willing to like tell their 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:48.960 friends they love them, willing to like open up to 1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:49.520 their friends. 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:49.840 You know. 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:52.400 It's I think it's something that like men are willing 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:53.840 to do with their friends. You know, it's coming. 1:04:53.960 --> 1:04:54.720 It's a little weird. 1:04:54.800 --> 1:04:58.960 Still, I feel like the fact that they seem to 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:02.120 like guys seem just sort of be hiding how they feel, 1:05:02.320 --> 1:05:04.360 like what they really think A little bit, I think, 1:05:04.440 --> 1:05:07.120 so like the time I think a little. 1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:10.160 Bit gives it. I'll give it you prove to the 1:05:10.200 --> 1:05:12.160 second two the first two, but give me the third eye. 1:05:12.200 --> 1:05:15.680 They hide like quite a lot behind erevlence and jadedness 1:05:15.840 --> 1:05:18.400 and humor and like saying fucked up stuff they don't 1:05:18.400 --> 1:05:21.320 actually believe, and they also like sort of just a 1:05:21.440 --> 1:05:24.160 little bit not that serious, a little bit not that emotional, 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:27.680 and then when they do open up, it's like like 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:30.240 a little intense. It's like a little bit like, okay, 1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:31.400 you can, you can take a step back. 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:32.080 It's it's fine. 1:05:32.720 --> 1:05:33.000 I know. 1:05:33.080 --> 1:05:36.120 Don't we all don't we all mascar emotions in some 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:40.240 way there's some sort of displacements personality or activity. 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:41.600 A little bit, but IM sorry. 1:05:41.640 --> 1:05:46.040 We're humans are dynamic enough that you can be funny 1:05:46.080 --> 1:05:48.560 and say outlandish things and do whatever and also still 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:49.960 have a deeply emotional. 1:05:50.080 --> 1:05:52.120 Definitely, I think so. I think you definitely can. 1:05:52.240 --> 1:05:54.280 I think it's just being done as a defense mechanism 1:05:54.440 --> 1:05:58.280 by guys and masculine people a lot a lot more 1:05:58.360 --> 1:06:00.520 than by women. And I think that it's why when 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:02.520 a dude like is really like I love you bo 1:06:02.760 --> 1:06:05.560 like man, this is it's time I fly, it's like 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:08.640 it feels really intense because it's like sort of sudden. 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:10.680 I don't want to put a gender to this. Looks 1:06:10.680 --> 1:06:14.120 so cool that now we're surrounded by beautiful life. 1:06:14.720 --> 1:06:14.919 Yeah. 1:06:15.640 --> 1:06:17.400 I was gonna say, like, do you feel like I'm 1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:20.800 like I meet so many people nowadays who are like 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:23.960 they talk in tiktoks, you know what I mean, Like 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:26.400 they talk in and it's men and women and and 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:29.320 you know, like talking in memes or talking in tiktoks. 1:06:29.640 --> 1:06:33.480 I feel like that's a huge Like that's a huge 1:06:33.640 --> 1:06:37.400 like I'm displacing myself from emotions thing. 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:39.360 Do you do you agree with fucking weird? Really weird, 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:39.919 really weird? 1:06:40.040 --> 1:06:40.240 Yeah? 1:06:40.520 --> 1:06:42.120 I feel like you see that a little bit in 1:06:42.200 --> 1:06:43.120 Japanese culture. 1:06:43.680 --> 1:06:46.120 Oh yeah, it's what's what is it in Japanese? There's 1:06:46.160 --> 1:06:48.640 like the two face? You know if there's a word 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:52.320 for this in Japanese culture. Fuck, somebody in the comments 1:06:52.360 --> 1:06:54.320 say it, but it's like one is like your your 1:06:54.480 --> 1:06:56.560 your outside face and then your inside face. 1:06:56.640 --> 1:06:57.880 Whoa you have ever heard of this? 1:06:58.160 --> 1:06:58.640 I think so? 1:06:58.920 --> 1:06:59.160 Yeah. 1:07:00.360 --> 1:07:02.400 I don't know the word exactly, but someone someone in 1:07:02.480 --> 1:07:05.680 the YouTube comments will be it, will say it's maybe 1:07:09.520 --> 1:07:11.080 I've enjoyed talking to you man, have you have you? 1:07:11.320 --> 1:07:13.080 Have you handed out a lot of these pamphlets? 1:07:13.240 --> 1:07:15.360 I just forgot I was holding that when I like 1:07:15.480 --> 1:07:16.280 went to fist pump. 1:07:16.360 --> 1:07:20.120 Yeah, but there's the dudeis here like every day when 1:07:20.160 --> 1:07:22.320 it's like way too hot out and like the sunniest 1:07:22.320 --> 1:07:26.120 place imaginable, giving out fleet stickos and giving out pamphlets 1:07:26.200 --> 1:07:29.240 and like getting people to care about the the nature. 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:32.160 They literally a part of that. They'll one hundred percent 1:07:32.320 --> 1:07:33.480 going to get fucked along with. 1:07:33.600 --> 1:07:36.240 Can I ask you a question that comes from I've 1:07:36.280 --> 1:07:37.880 been talking a little bit today. I talked to the 1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:40.960 last uh guest who is on this chair, about how 1:07:41.000 --> 1:07:42.480 I have two wolves in my head? 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:43.840 What I do? 1:07:43.960 --> 1:07:45.880 I have two wolves in my head. One wolf is uh. 1:07:46.280 --> 1:07:50.960 One wolf in my head loves life, very optimistic, loves 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:54.040 the earth, loves humans. The other wolf in my head 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:57.720 is like sees, you know, whatever climate change and whatnot, 1:07:57.760 --> 1:08:01.720 and goes, we had a good run. You know, why 1:08:01.800 --> 1:08:04.840 is humanity? Why is humanity in life so important that 1:08:04.920 --> 1:08:07.600 we have to save it? You know that wolf exists 1:08:07.600 --> 1:08:09.120 in my head. And I ask you, as somebody who 1:08:09.160 --> 1:08:11.680 cares about these things, what would you what would you 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:12.439 say to that wolf? 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:13.360 And why should we care? 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:16.880 That story comes from a book called the Education of 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:22.839 Little Tree, and it was written by a uh. Former 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:27.320 ku Klux Klan member turned antiwasis looking for redemption in 1:08:27.400 --> 1:08:29.639 the most weird black fac the way possible. 1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:33.560 Sure, okay, but more give me more than that. I 1:08:33.640 --> 1:08:36.200 mean I philosophically, why should we care about life? 1:08:36.439 --> 1:08:39.400 I feel like that's that's both wolves at once being 1:08:39.479 --> 1:08:46.400 one wolf, maybe a coyote, I guess. Yeah, life is 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:49.439 weird in messay and sometimes kind of fucked up, but 1:08:50.040 --> 1:08:53.920 it's still beautiful and still working forwards. And sometimes something 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:56.960 you know fucked up with an ex clan member writing 1:08:57.000 --> 1:08:59.920 a book which pretends to be a Native American creates 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:03.560 a beautiful story that actual Native Americans really resonate with. 1:09:05.200 --> 1:09:07.439 I listen, I'm not Native American, but I like the 1:09:07.479 --> 1:09:08.800 toolves thing. It makes sense. 1:09:09.040 --> 1:09:09.280 Yeah. 1:09:10.120 --> 1:09:14.519 Well anyway, I like life today, and today's all we got. Mmm, 1:09:15.320 --> 1:09:18.080 give me your name one more time? O Gus Arcis 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:19.840 Arcis if you want to plug anything you kind of 1:09:19.880 --> 1:09:20.839 know you said you have an Instagram. 1:09:21.240 --> 1:09:21.920 My Instagram. 1:09:22.439 --> 1:09:24.960 If you can understand the words I make with my mouth, 1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:27.920 it's Ao c U s ao b o l I 1:09:28.760 --> 1:09:29.520 at Instagram. 1:09:29.840 --> 1:09:31.080 There's nothing fucking on it. 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:33.240 There'll be pictures on it soon of us doing stuff 1:09:33.280 --> 1:09:35.320 in the forest and then you can come and go 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:37.680 in the group chats, and then you can come out 1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:38.800 and play in the forest with us. 1:09:39.080 --> 1:09:39.599 Rock and roll. 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:42.639 Helly, nice to talk to you, dude. I'll see around 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:44.360 the universe. I'll see you, see you around the universe. 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:45.880 Good luck. 1:09:48.000 --> 1:09:48.920 That guy was interesting. 1:09:49.560 --> 1:09:50.120 That was Uh. 1:09:51.160 --> 1:09:52.360 That was a cool conversation. 1:09:53.320 --> 1:09:53.479 Uh. 1:09:53.720 --> 1:09:56.320 I feel like, what did I learn from that? 1:09:57.600 --> 1:09:57.960 I don't know. 1:09:58.280 --> 1:09:59.800 I don't know if I have I don't what did 1:09:59.840 --> 1:10:03.639 you the eyeball looking somebody said, the eyeball looking stuff? 1:10:03.680 --> 1:10:06.560 I learned about looking eyeball? I was if you have 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:08.439 someone in your life who might be willing to lick 1:10:08.479 --> 1:10:10.840 your eyeball, I recommend it. It's a fun, it's a 1:10:10.920 --> 1:10:14.519 nice it feels nice. Although I remember I remember after 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:17.240 someone looked my eyeball, I went on Google and I 1:10:17.360 --> 1:10:18.880 was asking Google about it, and they were like, you 1:10:18.920 --> 1:10:21.240 shouldn't do that. That can call that can spread diseases. 1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:25.639 But what does the internet know? Have a seat, Leana. 1:10:25.720 --> 1:10:28.639 Very nice to meet you, Leanna. What's up has life? 1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:30.360 Life is pretty good right now? 1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:31.080 Very good. 1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:36.519 This might be a downer from the last conversation, but 1:10:37.080 --> 1:10:39.920 I'm in the best relationship I've been in like my 1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:43.320 whole life. Yeah, and I've been in nothing but bad relationships. 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:46.360 I don't know how to feel comfortable with getting the 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:48.280 love that I'm getting, how to. 1:10:48.320 --> 1:10:51.720 Feel comfortable getting the love that you're getting? Wow, And 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:54.479 she's well, I guess I'm curious about. 1:10:54.240 --> 1:10:54.680 A few things. 1:10:55.160 --> 1:10:59.000 In what way does that discomfort manifest in your physical actions? 1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:03.879 And you know, yeah, just I'm just like very defensive, 1:11:03.960 --> 1:11:06.960 like I have a wall up from the past, sure 1:11:07.439 --> 1:11:09.280 that I don't know how to get. 1:11:09.240 --> 1:11:14.479 Rid of, like like like uh like whoever you're dating, right, 1:11:14.920 --> 1:11:17.160 they'll be like like what, They'll tell you they. 1:11:17.080 --> 1:11:25.439 Love you, and you're like, ah, no, I suck somewhat. Yeah, okay, okay, huh, 1:11:26.880 --> 1:11:28.879 I don't know. Do you have a real therapist? 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:30.840 Not really? 1:11:30.920 --> 1:11:30.960 No? 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:33.800 Should I change the topic? 1:11:34.240 --> 1:11:34.280 No? 1:11:34.479 --> 1:11:37.400 No, No, you didn't do anything wrong. I'm just curious. 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:40.559 I'm just I'm thinking about my thoughts on this situation. 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:44.840 I mean, how else does this manifest? Like, give me, 1:11:44.960 --> 1:11:47.479 give me some examples, like how do you feel as 1:11:47.520 --> 1:11:49.000 though you cannot accept. 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:53.880 This love just because like I don't know how to 1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:57.800 like trust just because I've adopted. 1:11:57.400 --> 1:11:59.880 To Oh, okay, you don't how to trust this person. 1:11:59.840 --> 1:12:01.040 That's like one of the things. 1:12:01.240 --> 1:12:06.599 Yeah, I can only really give you my own lived 1:12:06.680 --> 1:12:10.400 experience and thoughts about trust. Yes, my own lived experience 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:16.360 and thoughts about trust. Is like, Okay, so you're in 1:12:16.400 --> 1:12:19.880 this relationship, right, and how long you've been with. 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:21.559 This person just a few months? 1:12:21.720 --> 1:12:22.360 Just a few months. 1:12:23.120 --> 1:12:27.600 And I guess I would say in my own relationships 1:12:27.600 --> 1:12:32.960 with trust is like in any kind of relationship, business, platonic, romantic, whatever, 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:37.320 you kind of like audit yourself to be like, am 1:12:37.360 --> 1:12:42.400 I doing the best job I reasonably can within my efforts? 1:12:43.760 --> 1:12:48.240 Am I having the best intentions that I reasonably can? 1:12:49.120 --> 1:12:51.200 And as long as I'm holding up my end of 1:12:51.280 --> 1:12:55.200 the deal. If this person decides to in some way, 1:12:55.280 --> 1:12:58.400 shape or form betray my trust or attempt to hurt 1:12:58.479 --> 1:13:01.360 me after I've held up my end of the deal, 1:13:02.360 --> 1:13:05.599 that doesn't bother me really, because I feel like that's, uh, 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:08.880 that's not really a reflection upon me. You know, I 1:13:08.960 --> 1:13:13.960 don't control the evil uh that surrounds me. I only 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:16.439 control a half of it. And and you kind of 1:13:16.479 --> 1:13:20.639 do those things intuitively, and you don't focus so much 1:13:20.720 --> 1:13:24.560 about what comes back. Of course you, of course you 1:13:24.760 --> 1:13:28.120 yearn of course you want, You'd be fucking lying. I'd 1:13:28.200 --> 1:13:30.920 be lying to myself. I said I didn't want anything back. 1:13:31.560 --> 1:13:32.280 You know, I'm not the. 1:13:32.280 --> 1:13:36.080 Fucking Buddha, but like you, you have to at some point, 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:39.799 except that what comes back is somewhat out of your control, 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:42.519 and so the trust is less the trust. The trust 1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:44.640 that you're swinging around is less of a trust in 1:13:45.040 --> 1:13:47.280 another person and more of a trust in yourself. That 1:13:47.400 --> 1:13:52.000 you're approaching your life with as much uh goodwill as 1:13:52.040 --> 1:13:56.160 you possibly can, and that everything beyond that is is 1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:59.400 beyond you, and you surrender to what's beyond you. 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:02.599 Does that make any sense? Or is that insane rambles? 1:14:02.960 --> 1:14:03.599 That makes sense? 1:14:03.760 --> 1:14:04.360 Alright? Cool? 1:14:04.600 --> 1:14:06.679 Okay, Shit, maybe I'm better a therapy than I thought. 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:09.519 Maybe you're all all seeing gecko. 1:14:09.760 --> 1:14:11.840 I am a gecko. What's your name again? 1:14:11.960 --> 1:14:12.200 Lean? 1:14:12.479 --> 1:14:15.800 Yeah, I'm horrible at remembering names. That's okay, But I 1:14:15.880 --> 1:14:18.800 feel like i'm I'm I get so ingrained in the 1:14:18.880 --> 1:14:21.720 conversations that I forget name. 1:14:21.800 --> 1:14:23.240 The name is the least of your worries. 1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:25.600 I like that you have a Harley Davidson hat on. 1:14:26.400 --> 1:14:30.640 I've been upstate in Hicksville and is where you're from. No, No, 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:31.920 that's where my girlfriend's from. 1:14:32.040 --> 1:14:33.760 Okay, you said it's influenced you. 1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:38.160 Yeah, I mean I've just been there, and I'm from Jersey, 1:14:38.520 --> 1:14:40.720 but I hang out here mostly, so it's definitely a 1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:48.000 lot different. Like it's quiet, everybody's like country, like really country. Yeah, 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:50.640 so I've I've been influenced. 1:14:50.760 --> 1:14:52.840 If you cann't tell yeah, oh yeah, you got the 1:14:52.840 --> 1:14:53.479 cameo pants, I. 1:14:53.520 --> 1:14:56.680 Got the cameos, the cut off tea, like is it? 1:14:56.760 --> 1:14:59.599 I feel like I feel like, tell me if I'm crazy, 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:03.240 But I feel like it's country experiencing some kind of 1:15:03.360 --> 1:15:05.400 cultural shift where it used to be seen as like 1:15:05.439 --> 1:15:07.400 a very like like it was like a very it 1:15:07.479 --> 1:15:09.920 was like very conservative, and now it's like it's like 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:11.760 it's kind of being taken back. Like I'm seeing like 1:15:12.479 --> 1:15:17.519 Brooklyn like hipster people like wearing like hats and cowboy 1:15:17.560 --> 1:15:18.840 boots and ship I. 1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:20.920 Mean, I think a lot of people take from like 1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:24.920 the aesthetic, but when it when you're in like a 1:15:25.160 --> 1:15:27.680 very country area, it's very country conservative. 1:15:27.840 --> 1:15:32.879 Sure, so I definitely see a lot like especially today. 1:15:32.640 --> 1:15:34.400 Because it's the fourth of July, a lot of people 1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:40.760 wearing cowboy boots, American flags, camo, but nothing further than that. 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.000 Do you have any Fourth of July plans tonight? 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:44.000 No. 1:15:44.200 --> 1:15:45.840 I wanted to see what was going on here. I 1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:48.400 thought there would be more events. 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:51.200 Oh, it's an event every day. Look at all of 1:15:51.439 --> 1:15:52.000 all this stuff. 1:15:52.040 --> 1:15:56.479 That's true. I'm here every day mostly every day Jersey. 1:15:57.080 --> 1:15:58.960 I live one stop from kind station. 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:03.040 Yeah, so I'm here a lot and this is kind 1:16:03.080 --> 1:16:06.800 of just like everyday summer festivities, just a lot more 1:16:06.880 --> 1:16:07.799 American flags. 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:09.800 I thought there would be like more fun stuff like 1:16:10.240 --> 1:16:11.439 do this for Fourth of July? 1:16:12.000 --> 1:16:14.599 If okay, if you could visualize what your perfect Fourth 1:16:14.640 --> 1:16:16.639 of July would be, how would that go down? 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:22.560 Sitting in a pool, eating ice cream and watching the fireworks. 1:16:23.120 --> 1:16:24.960 I feel like you can find a place here to No, 1:16:25.160 --> 1:16:26.920 you definitely what it was here to do that. But 1:16:27.040 --> 1:16:29.680 what you just described in Manhattan will cost at least 1:16:29.720 --> 1:16:30.479 three hundred dollars. 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:31.400 Yeah, exactly. 1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:33.320 You're gonna have to leave the city to do that. 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:36.360 By me, there's a lot to do like that. But 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:39.280 all my friends are here and they don't go to Jersey. 1:16:39.600 --> 1:16:41.120 Do you go to do you go to school here? 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:41.519 No? 1:16:41.640 --> 1:16:42.360 I'm not in school. 1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:42.880 Okay. 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:44.680 I graduated high school and said, fuck it. 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:48.160 Very cool, very cool. What do you have? What do 1:16:48.160 --> 1:16:49.160 you want to do with your life? 1:16:49.400 --> 1:16:50.519 I have no clue. 1:16:50.800 --> 1:16:53.519 Do you have, like inklings of anything that is exciting 1:16:53.560 --> 1:16:57.240 to you in any way, shape or form, even even minusculey. 1:16:57.600 --> 1:16:58.719 Anything art related? 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:01.839 Really, that's cool? You do you do your own tattoos? 1:17:02.080 --> 1:17:02.120 No? 1:17:03.280 --> 1:17:06.760 These are just on the fly. I've gotten most of them, 1:17:06.840 --> 1:17:07.680 like impulsively. 1:17:08.120 --> 1:17:09.440 Who's your favorite artist. 1:17:11.160 --> 1:17:12.000 Prior to this? Girl? 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:15.519 Iris tat that's where I got this one from the 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:19.559 most recent one. It's from Coraline. But she was really 1:17:19.600 --> 1:17:21.840 sweet and I love a lot of her work that 1:17:22.000 --> 1:17:23.360 she like posts about. 1:17:23.439 --> 1:17:27.720 Really nice, really nice. Yeah, okay, so you want to 1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:30.960 be in a pool watching the fire? By the way, 1:17:31.040 --> 1:17:32.560 I just sorry. I know this is something to do 1:17:32.640 --> 1:17:35.920 with our conversation. But at the very beginning of sitting down, 1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.160 I said to myself that I would be able to 1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.960 ignore how hot it was by being so engrossed in 1:17:41.000 --> 1:17:43.920 the conversations that I would forget the temperature. And it's 1:17:43.960 --> 1:17:46.200 actually been working. I thought it wasn't gonna work. I 1:17:46.200 --> 1:17:47.519 thought I'd be sweating my my ass. 1:17:47.600 --> 1:17:48.400 It's not working for me. 1:17:48.479 --> 1:17:50.519 I feel the heat, my haw's my is am I 1:17:50.640 --> 1:17:51.920 dripping on the paint at all. 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:55.320 No, you've just been touching your beard. So that's where 1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:55.760 it's gone. 1:17:55.880 --> 1:17:59.599 I have been touching my beard. Yeah, is there someone 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:00.439 has a phone. 1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:01.960 Yeah, he's right there. 1:18:02.560 --> 1:18:05.000 Oh man, I love the one dollar water guy man 1:18:05.479 --> 1:18:07.880 here right. You know what you know what's crazy is 1:18:08.000 --> 1:18:09.559 uh people talk about inflation. 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:09.760 You know. 1:18:10.240 --> 1:18:12.160 I feel like maybe I talked about this on the 1:18:12.200 --> 1:18:14.960 podcast before, but people talk about inflation, right right. I 1:18:15.040 --> 1:18:19.599 feel like no matter how much inflation goes, the dollar 1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:22.880 water Guy will always still like that's his brand forever. 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.320 It's gonna take about it's gonna take another one hundred 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:28.000 years for the dollar water Guy to raise his prices. 1:18:27.760 --> 1:18:29.439 And it'll go to one twenty five, it'll go to 1:18:30.120 --> 1:18:30.840 it'll go it'll. 1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:31.280 Have to go to two. 1:18:31.400 --> 1:18:31.559 Right. 1:18:31.880 --> 1:18:34.320 Maybe I feel like in a hundred I feel like 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:35.800 Americans we gotta get rid of coins. 1:18:35.880 --> 1:18:37.360 Our coins are just not worth anything. 1:18:37.600 --> 1:18:38.519 That's true. 1:18:39.240 --> 1:18:42.160 I mean I work at a very like small little 1:18:42.240 --> 1:18:44.559 town like bagel shop, and a lot of the older 1:18:44.640 --> 1:18:49.840 people have exact change. Really, so maybe in major cities 1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:54.360 like this, coins should go. But in very small towns, yeah, 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:57.200 coins just never cease to exist. 1:18:57.400 --> 1:18:59.639 Get rid of the coins, but bring back the dollar coin. 1:18:59.680 --> 1:19:00.679 I love a dollar coin. 1:19:01.560 --> 1:19:02.880 I feel like when I have a dollar coin, I 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.479 just never use it. I just look at it. Yeah, 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:09.400 it's too special. Yeah, somehow I have none left. 1:19:10.680 --> 1:19:12.400 I feel horrible, and I'm gonna ask your name. 1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:15.640 A third Leanna think like Brianna, but with an L. 1:19:15.760 --> 1:19:17.360 You know it's so annoying, you know, it's so annoying 1:19:17.400 --> 1:19:18.360 to me. Is I feel like I can? 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:19.000 I can? 1:19:19.240 --> 1:19:22.040 I can, like, like like in that moment when I 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:24.360 forgot your name, It's like you could quiz me on 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:27.800 on on your life, as as the information you've told me, 1:19:28.040 --> 1:19:29.760 and I think I would get ninety nine percent of 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:30.880 it correct except the name. 1:19:31.160 --> 1:19:32.800 That's just how my brain works. I got it. 1:19:32.920 --> 1:19:35.280 I know that, uh, I mean I know, yeah, what 1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:37.720 you were talking about with your girlfriend. I know you 1:19:37.840 --> 1:19:41.720 live in Jersey. I know that, uh, you work in 1:19:41.800 --> 1:19:44.880 a small town. Yes, I know that you're not in 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:46.720 school right now. I know you have friends who live 1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:49.000 in the city. But I would have I would have 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:50.479 not remembered the name. 1:19:51.439 --> 1:19:53.200 Is that bad? No, do you think I'm gonna am? 1:19:53.240 --> 1:19:55.920 I I feel like knowing my life is definitely a 1:19:55.960 --> 1:19:57.920 lot more important to me than knowing my name. 1:19:58.280 --> 1:20:01.120 Yeah, good, okay, good, the least of my worries. 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:03.680 If you know me, you know me, if you know 1:20:03.800 --> 1:20:05.479 my name, it's whatever, Leana. 1:20:05.520 --> 1:20:06.560 Is there anything else you want to say to the 1:20:06.600 --> 1:20:09.600 people of the computer before we go, not really. 1:20:10.120 --> 1:20:14.000 Other than have a good summer and happy forth, Hags. 1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:17.720 I'll see you around the university, and I thank you 1:20:17.800 --> 1:20:22.080 very much for talking to a gecko. Yeah, there's a 1:20:22.120 --> 1:20:24.000 lot of really, I don't know if I don't know 1:20:24.080 --> 1:20:26.840 how much background noise you'll be able to hear on 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:32.400 this podcast, but there's a lot of really nice music 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:34.599 and happenings about. 1:20:35.680 --> 1:20:36.200 It's nice. 1:20:37.000 --> 1:20:39.160 What's your name, man, I'm Sonjay Sanjay. 1:20:39.280 --> 1:20:41.880 Nice to meet you. I like your shirt. Your shirt 1:20:41.960 --> 1:20:46.840 says lol and then under it it says love of laughter. 1:20:47.200 --> 1:20:47.400 Yeah. 1:20:47.600 --> 1:20:50.120 Yeah, what's up, Sonjay? How's life good? 1:20:50.400 --> 1:20:51.639 Not much, it's been it's been okay. 1:20:51.680 --> 1:20:53.040 How about you? Why only okay? 1:20:53.920 --> 1:20:55.960 I mean it's been like mundane, but like in like 1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:59.120 a good way, you know, Yeah, mundane life contains a 1:20:59.200 --> 1:21:00.920 lot of joy in it. What tell me about like, 1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:01.760 what do you do every day? 1:21:02.720 --> 1:21:05.439 I mean, I'm a full time student and then I 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:07.920 do a lot of like stand up, so like I 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:10.559 usually just like go to class, then like write some jokes, 1:21:10.640 --> 1:21:12.880 go to an open mic, and then like oh you 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:13.800 your stand up. 1:21:13.840 --> 1:21:16.479 Yeah yeah yeah, very cool, Yeah, very cool. 1:21:17.240 --> 1:21:17.560 How's this? 1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:19.479 How's the New York stand up scene treating you? 1:21:19.800 --> 1:21:21.760 It's okay, it's it's really cool. I think it's like 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:23.439 a lot of fun. But it's also like there's so 1:21:23.640 --> 1:21:26.240 many comics, you know. Yeah, so also trying to like 1:21:26.280 --> 1:21:28.880 pivot into like content and stuff like that. But cool, 1:21:29.040 --> 1:21:31.439 like every other like that's my original idea. Yeah, let 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:33.360 me do content. What's your what's your dream? 1:21:35.160 --> 1:21:38.479 I would like to be an SNL cast member. 1:21:38.560 --> 1:21:39.160 That's my dream? 1:21:39.280 --> 1:21:39.559 Really? 1:21:39.760 --> 1:21:39.960 Yeah? 1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:40.160 Yeah? 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:41.280 How old are you? Can ask? 1:21:41.439 --> 1:21:43.599 Twenty twenty? Yeah, by the time. 1:21:45.040 --> 1:21:49.000 You, I think SNL is kind of dead, isn't it. 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.439 I mean it's has faltered. Yeah, it's not like the 1:21:52.000 --> 1:21:56.320 every Man show it used to be. For sure. I'm 1:21:56.360 --> 1:21:59.240 gonna well, hold on, can I can? I? All right, 1:21:59.280 --> 1:22:02.680 I'm gonna tell it very douchey story. Okay, okay, And 1:22:02.800 --> 1:22:05.280 this is why I think I might get some heat 1:22:05.360 --> 1:22:07.479 for this, but it's fine. I think wanting to be 1:22:07.520 --> 1:22:10.840 an SNL cast but only because Sanjay. 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:14.760 Yeah, only because I I I want I remember my name? 1:22:14.920 --> 1:22:20.120 Yeah, Okay, so uh two years ago, like the Internet 1:22:20.240 --> 1:22:21.400 is so much more powerful than. 1:22:21.360 --> 1:22:22.120 Saturday Night Live. 1:22:22.400 --> 1:22:24.519 Yeah, I guess that makes sense, but so much more 1:22:24.600 --> 1:22:27.040 powerful ship Like like fucking Shane Gillis man. 1:22:27.760 --> 1:22:30.360 You know, he like came back like when he first 1:22:30.560 --> 1:22:34.000 when he first got fired from Saturday Live. Uh, everyone 1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:36.120 was like, this is gonna be better for his career, 1:22:36.200 --> 1:22:37.920 and I didn't believe. I was like, no, he kind 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:40.680 of got fucked. And then now now that everyone was right, 1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:43.040 it was better for his career. He's like as any 1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:46.679 cast member. Yeah, and he's hosting and so, uh. 1:22:47.600 --> 1:22:48.880 I'm not gonna name any names. 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:51.760 And this is not in any way, shape orform reflective 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:56.639 of this performer themselves. But it's just about like SNL 1:22:56.720 --> 1:22:59.280 is and it's it's more reflective of SNL as an institution. Okay, 1:23:00.439 --> 1:23:02.280 I'm not gonna name this performance name. They're very funny, 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:04.720 but again, it's about the institution out the former. Two 1:23:04.840 --> 1:23:10.719 years ago, I was in England doing a show Therapy Gecko, 1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:13.360 and you know at the time, you know, I was 1:23:13.520 --> 1:23:16.560 going viral on TikTok or whatever, and I had a 1:23:16.640 --> 1:23:19.680 sold out show at this comedy club in England And 1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:24.439 the next night after my show, there was this guy 1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:29.000 headlining who at the time was an SNL cast member, 1:23:29.760 --> 1:23:35.120 And at my show, they're putting flyers for his show 1:23:35.920 --> 1:23:38.719 on the seats and I was looking at the flyers 1:23:38.800 --> 1:23:41.160 and I was like, damn, dude. 1:23:41.280 --> 1:23:44.720 My show was sold out. Geo Trumps, I'm selling more 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:45.400 to don't. 1:23:45.439 --> 1:23:46.800 I don't know how it would go nowadays, but at 1:23:46.840 --> 1:23:49.120 least at that time, it's like, Damn, I'm selling more 1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:52.400 tickets than somebody who was on Saturday Night Live off 1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:55.360 of TikTok and Instagram and YouTube and whatnot. 1:23:55.439 --> 1:24:00.600 Dude, Gecko Gecko Trump's Lauren Michaels right here, Just no, 1:24:00.800 --> 1:24:01.680 it does nothing to do with Dad. 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:04.280 Yeah, like you know, I don't know, Like you're the 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:07.439 goal for you is more, Yeah, you'll find more success 1:24:07.600 --> 1:24:08.479 on like YouTube and. 1:24:08.880 --> 1:24:10.559 Yeah, well I want to be a comedian. I also 1:24:10.560 --> 1:24:12.000 want to like create a TV show. Those are two 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:12.400 big things. 1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:15.080 But even what the fuck is a TV show? Ye, 1:24:15.200 --> 1:24:16.040 it's a TV show. 1:24:16.479 --> 1:24:17.160 I think it could be. 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:20.840 Well, it knows, it's it's you know, it's I mean, 1:24:20.880 --> 1:24:23.800 it's a people. Nobody watches TV. 1:24:24.160 --> 1:24:24.519 I don't know. 1:24:24.720 --> 1:24:26.960 I just watch family guy clip by clip that's my 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:30.040 TV on TikTok's but you watch it on TikTok. 1:24:30.160 --> 1:24:31.000 Yeah, So I don't know. 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:32.720 I feel like I feel like the old guard of 1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:34.600 like I want to be on SNL or have a 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:36.599 TV show. It's like all that shit is dead, dude. 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:38.400 It's like a double ed story because it's like so 1:24:38.479 --> 1:24:40.280 many people. It's like anybody can do it, but now 1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:41.519 so many more people are doing it. 1:24:41.880 --> 1:24:42.280 It's good. 1:24:42.439 --> 1:24:43.040 Yeah, it's great. 1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:45.640 They democratize the media answers. Yeah, I mean I think 1:24:45.680 --> 1:24:47.519 that's always something I've always wondered. I'm like, how many 1:24:47.600 --> 1:24:50.320 people you think were more talented than like a Dave 1:24:50.400 --> 1:24:52.479 Chappelle or like you know, like a Chris Rock or 1:24:52.560 --> 1:24:54.280 like you know, like a c K. But there's just 1:24:54.360 --> 1:24:56.200 never attempt or like never got seen in the right 1:24:56.280 --> 1:24:58.840 room or whatever. Well, I mean, yeah, bro, that's how 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:01.280 it goes or I mean comedy. But also, like any 1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:03.000 kind of art, it's less about art and more about 1:25:03.080 --> 1:25:08.680 like it's it's a combination of like good taste and 1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:12.600 talent and marketing opportunities and luck yeah, it's like a 1:25:12.680 --> 1:25:13.760 third of each of those things. 1:25:13.920 --> 1:25:16.120 It's kind of like like do you. 1:25:16.120 --> 1:25:16.760 Watch the NBA. 1:25:17.160 --> 1:25:19.320 No, Okay, there's like a story of like one of 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:22.040 like this European basketball player who was like like head 1:25:22.080 --> 1:25:23.599 and shoulders above the rest would have like a forty 1:25:23.640 --> 1:25:26.000 point trouble double at halftime in Europe and they wanted 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:27.280 to come to the NBA and they said he'd be 1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:27.800 better than. 1:25:27.720 --> 1:25:29.200 Like Jordan and like all these guys. 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:31.160 But like he couldn't come for ten years because of 1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:33.080 his visa and by the time he finally came, he 1:25:33.280 --> 1:25:34.920 was like old so like and he was still like 1:25:35.000 --> 1:25:36.920 really good. I think he uh, I forgot. It's like 1:25:36.960 --> 1:25:40.160 a Sabonus something. But like the question is like how 1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:41.760 like you know, like how many people are there like 1:25:41.800 --> 1:25:43.479 that where they just like never made it to the 1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:45.880 NBA because it's some like miscellaneous reason. But we're like 1:25:45.960 --> 1:25:47.760 more talented than anybody there. 1:25:48.200 --> 1:25:48.439 Yeah. 1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:50.519 Well, comedy is a little weird because it's the talent 1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:53.320 is all subjective, yeah, you know, and people different people 1:25:53.400 --> 1:25:56.320 are kind of four different audiences and yeah, well. 1:25:56.160 --> 1:25:57.800 I think it's like that about art though too, Like 1:25:57.800 --> 1:25:59.559 I don't think art's about like talent. I think it's 1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:02.559 about moment. Like I think anyone can shine in their moment, you. 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:02.880 Know, yeah. 1:26:02.920 --> 1:26:06.200 Yeah, it's about moment and momentum is also about literally 1:26:06.240 --> 1:26:07.720 about about moments. 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:09.639 Like there's moments where Leonard Dicapro will be the worst 1:26:09.680 --> 1:26:11.559 actor in the world. There's moments where some guy from 1:26:11.680 --> 1:26:13.880 like getting a BFA could it could be like more 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:17.439 the most talented act just in that specific moment, right, yeah, random, 1:26:17.479 --> 1:26:19.280 Like it all just clicks that it just comes together. 1:26:19.439 --> 1:26:21.320 Are you having fun in life? 1:26:21.520 --> 1:26:21.720 Yeah? 1:26:22.040 --> 1:26:22.600 Yeah, I think so. 1:26:23.000 --> 1:26:25.240 I think I'm having fun. I think like staying busy 1:26:25.320 --> 1:26:26.320 is like the most fun that I have. 1:26:26.400 --> 1:26:27.960 Oh yeah, if you don't stay busy, you'll start to 1:26:27.960 --> 1:26:29.200 ask questions you were never meant. 1:26:29.360 --> 1:26:31.040 You got to hear your own voice. 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:34.360 That's the that's the scariest Uh, that's the scariest medium. 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:36.320 Well, shit, Sonjay, it was good talking to you. 1:26:36.479 --> 1:26:37.200 Great talking to you too. 1:26:37.439 --> 1:26:38.559 You want to say to the people of the computer 1:26:38.600 --> 1:26:39.040 before we go? 1:26:39.320 --> 1:26:42.320 Uh, you guys should follow me on my stand up 1:26:42.360 --> 1:26:44.680 comedy account. It's called Sunjay does Stand Up s A. 1:26:44.800 --> 1:26:47.880 N j Y Does Stand Up Beautiful. Yeah, I'm looking 1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:53.679 forward to seeing you around the universe. I'm looking forward 1:26:53.720 --> 1:26:55.280 to you selling more tickets than me when I got 1:26:55.320 --> 1:26:55.800 on SNL. 1:26:56.880 --> 1:26:57.080 Yeah. 1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:01.040 Great to talk to you man. Hello, there, have a seat. 1:27:01.120 --> 1:27:05.720 What is what is your name? I'm Rachel, Rachel, Nice 1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:07.920 to meet you. What's up has life? 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:08.479 What's going on? 1:27:09.560 --> 1:27:15.120 So yesterday I learned that my friend is a kleptomania. 1:27:16.040 --> 1:27:18.640 Oh interesting for those who don't know what that is. 1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:22.160 And I think I know what a kleptomaniac is. Somebody 1:27:22.160 --> 1:27:23.799 who is addicted to stealing. 1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:27.760 Yeah, he's banned from Canada apparently, which sucks because I 1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:32.280 live in Canada. But yeah, he just like I've been 1:27:32.280 --> 1:27:33.640 friends with him for a couple of weeks and he 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:34.200 just told me. 1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:35.479 That he likes to steal things? 1:27:35.720 --> 1:27:36.479 What kind of things? 1:27:36.880 --> 1:27:42.240 Really random things like caution tape and just like little knickknacks, 1:27:42.280 --> 1:27:44.360 but nothing that valuable. 1:27:44.080 --> 1:27:45.800 Sure, but he gets off on it. 1:27:46.000 --> 1:27:47.280 How long have you been friends with this guy? 1:27:47.479 --> 1:27:47.960 Three weeks? 1:27:48.120 --> 1:27:48.559 Three weeks? 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:49.519 How'd you guys meet? 1:27:50.240 --> 1:27:52.280 We met in front of the comedy shop. 1:27:52.880 --> 1:27:54.280 What's what's the comedy shop. 1:27:55.600 --> 1:27:56.400 On Bleeker Street? 1:27:56.560 --> 1:27:56.720 Oh? 1:27:56.880 --> 1:27:59.120 Oh right, I didn't know there was a Is that 1:27:59.160 --> 1:27:59.960 a new comedy club? 1:28:00.960 --> 1:28:03.080 I'm not sure. I've only been here for a little while. 1:28:03.360 --> 1:28:06.200 Okay, so you met a friend outside of a comedy 1:28:06.320 --> 1:28:08.480 shop and then when he told you he was a kleptomaniac. 1:28:08.560 --> 1:28:09.799 Did that make you look at him differently? 1:28:10.760 --> 1:28:12.760 I got a little scared. I'm like, do I want 1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:15.880 to invite this guy over right? Or should I? Should 1:28:15.880 --> 1:28:17.200 he be just like an outside friend? 1:28:17.439 --> 1:28:19.439 Has he stolen anything from you in the time that 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:21.680 you've not that I know of? But I guess it 1:28:21.680 --> 1:28:23.719 would be I guess from from the way you've described 1:28:23.720 --> 1:28:25.080 this guy, it sounds like if he were to steal 1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:26.519 things from you, it would be things you wouldn't even 1:28:26.560 --> 1:28:27.080 notice were gone. 1:28:27.120 --> 1:28:28.320 Like, yeah, it'd be like my floss. 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:30.120 I was literally going to say floss. 1:28:30.400 --> 1:28:32.720 Yeah, my gumbs would get so bad I wouldn't know why. 1:28:33.120 --> 1:28:35.439 Yeah, do you have any Okay, do you own anything 1:28:35.680 --> 1:28:39.400 that you think is in that rung of like's not 1:28:39.479 --> 1:28:40.840 importance but is important to. 1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:44.439 You, like that I would notice is gone, or that 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:45.920 I would have well yeah. 1:28:45.760 --> 1:28:48.640 Yeah, things that like are kind of objectively seen is 1:28:48.680 --> 1:28:50.639 not important, but that you would find important. 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:53.679 My cheese greater Ooh, that's a great answer. 1:28:54.439 --> 1:28:57.280 Yeah, So if this guy stole your cheese greater friendship 1:28:57.360 --> 1:29:00.920 over well, like I would know how many. Okay, let 1:29:00.960 --> 1:29:02.120 me ask you this, all right, so you've been friends 1:29:02.120 --> 1:29:04.160 with this guy for three weeks? Yea, although how many 1:29:04.240 --> 1:29:05.680 How often have you hung out with him in those 1:29:05.680 --> 1:29:06.160 three weeks? 1:29:07.560 --> 1:29:10.160 Well, I've seen him three times or four times? 1:29:10.240 --> 1:29:11.040 Maybe? Okay. 1:29:11.200 --> 1:29:13.400 We went to do improv together, which was fun? 1:29:14.120 --> 1:29:15.519 How fast? How fast? 1:29:15.840 --> 1:29:19.120 Until because I gotta say, like, like, he's your friend? Like, 1:29:19.400 --> 1:29:22.000 like how that was a fast decoration? 1:29:22.560 --> 1:29:22.760 You know? 1:29:22.960 --> 1:29:25.200 How how fast I want to become friends? 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:27.080 People normally say acquaintance? 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:30.360 Yeah, but I just like skip over that. I like, 1:29:30.520 --> 1:29:34.599 I like that, Like we're friends now, Like you can 1:29:34.640 --> 1:29:37.439 come over if you want, I'll make you tea. 1:29:38.880 --> 1:29:41.640 I feel like you feel like we like this this 1:29:41.840 --> 1:29:44.880 was enough interaction for us to be labeled friends? 1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:46.920 Probably not, the more I think about it, I don't 1:29:46.920 --> 1:29:49.519 think so either, Like what does it take to be friends? 1:29:49.600 --> 1:29:50.200 Like what do you think? 1:29:51.120 --> 1:29:52.360 I feel like? If you and I. 1:29:55.040 --> 1:30:01.439 Inhabited the same space regularly O for a somewhat extended 1:30:01.520 --> 1:30:04.800 period of time, and throughout that period of time had 1:30:04.840 --> 1:30:09.320 extended amounts of conversations or you know, hung out either 1:30:09.400 --> 1:30:11.400 in a group or as one on one, we would 1:30:11.439 --> 1:30:12.960 then develop a friendship. 1:30:13.000 --> 1:30:13.560 But this is not. 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:15.680 I don't think long enough for us to so I 1:30:15.760 --> 1:30:18.720 have to come back become friends, so you have to 1:30:18.760 --> 1:30:20.840 come back. Yeah, I guess in order for us to 1:30:20.920 --> 1:30:24.920 be friends, for us to be friends. Although actually I'll say, actually, 1:30:24.960 --> 1:30:28.760 you know what the guy at the very beginning, who 1:30:29.120 --> 1:30:31.560 like I saw him over there and he had like 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:35.080 the uh, the table, the table. If I saw him again, 1:30:35.560 --> 1:30:38.280 I would be like, Yo, that's my boy. Although if 1:30:38.360 --> 1:30:41.760 I saw you here at this park again. 1:30:41.680 --> 1:30:44.160 Probably wouldn't recognize me because I look. 1:30:44.080 --> 1:30:46.920 Like maybe maybe I would. It's like i'd be like, hey, yo, 1:30:47.040 --> 1:30:48.080 I remember you. We talked. 1:30:48.160 --> 1:30:50.880 What's your name? I still actually don't know your name. 1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:52.320 What's your name, Rachel? Rachel? 1:30:52.560 --> 1:30:53.160 What's your name? 1:30:53.320 --> 1:30:54.160 Lyle? Lyle? 1:30:55.840 --> 1:30:57.799 So are you gonna continue to be friends with this person? 1:31:01.680 --> 1:31:04.599 I waited a little too long, so probably like it's 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:08.040 gonna be a distant friend, like I'll go do improv 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:09.960 or if we're in a group setting, but he's not. 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:12.840 He's not getting like an invite over for like a 1:31:12.960 --> 1:31:14.919 dinner party type situation. 1:31:15.800 --> 1:31:18.880 So are you a comedian? No, what were you doing 1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:19.920 outside of a comedy club? 1:31:20.800 --> 1:31:24.439 So my friend's on Love Island and your friend on 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:28.800 Love Island and I don't have At the time, I 1:31:28.840 --> 1:31:31.680 didn't know that my roommate had Peacock, which is a 1:31:31.720 --> 1:31:35.080 streaming service that Love Island's on. Yeah, so I just 1:31:35.479 --> 1:31:38.080 left a date and I was walking somewhere else to 1:31:38.120 --> 1:31:40.519 take the subway home, and I pass by and they 1:31:40.560 --> 1:31:43.639 have a big screen every night showing Love Island. 1:31:45.080 --> 1:31:46.559 Who's your friend that's on Love Island? 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:46.960 Elon? 1:31:48.280 --> 1:31:53.120 I don't watch Love Island, Ela Elon, elon? Yeah, what 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:53.840 does she look like? 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:54.080 He? 1:31:54.720 --> 1:31:54.840 Oh? 1:31:54.920 --> 1:31:55.640 What does he look like? 1:31:56.400 --> 1:31:58.200 Jewish looking? He's got a fro? 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:01.120 Yeah? 1:32:01.720 --> 1:32:02.559 Are you also Jewish? 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:05.320 I'm also Jewish? Well what are you doing for shab butt? 1:32:05.400 --> 1:32:06.439 What am I doing for Shabbat? 1:32:06.560 --> 1:32:09.280 Yes, well I don't. I don't really do stuff for Shabbat. 1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:11.719 I just like, what are you doing for Shabbat? 1:32:12.160 --> 1:32:16.599 I just got invited like an hour ago to a rooftop, 1:32:18.000 --> 1:32:20.040 but really, where you want to come? 1:32:20.320 --> 1:32:20.559 Maybe? 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:20.840 Yeah? 1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:21.479 Where where is it? 1:32:21.600 --> 1:32:26.200 It's a so it's at this guy's apartment and it 1:32:26.280 --> 1:32:28.759 has a really good view of the Williamsburg Bridge. 1:32:28.920 --> 1:32:31.559 Wait, actually I actually kind of do what plus one 1:32:32.800 --> 1:32:35.479 hund Okay, I'm actually kind of down. 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:36.360 I think that'd be awesome. 1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:39.920 It's Williamsburg. Okay, Well we'll we'll talk. 1:32:40.040 --> 1:32:41.479 We can talk after I just don't want to peep 1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:41.920 the address. 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:44.960 We can talk after, okay. So uh for really, what 1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:46.360 was the theme of your abot mitzvah? 1:32:47.120 --> 1:32:47.240 Uh? 1:32:48.479 --> 1:32:50.760 Mine was like, you know, I'm not like the other 1:32:50.880 --> 1:32:53.920 Jewish girls. I didn't want the big party, so I 1:32:54.160 --> 1:32:59.439 just had like three limos, you know, really casual and. 1:33:00.439 --> 1:33:03.639 Yuah yo, I know exactly what your house looks like? Really? 1:33:03.840 --> 1:33:04.000 Yeah? 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:05.560 I feel like just by you saying that I know 1:33:05.680 --> 1:33:07.519 exactly what the interior of your house looks like. 1:33:07.800 --> 1:33:08.720 Okay, tell me about it. 1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:12.120 Uh, I can't like visually describe it. I can't like 1:33:12.200 --> 1:33:12.600 describe it. 1:33:12.840 --> 1:33:14.439 Are you just trying to come see my house? 1:33:15.080 --> 1:33:15.120 No? 1:33:15.400 --> 1:33:17.240 I'm just not not like no, like the house you 1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:19.720 grew up in. I assume did you did you grow 1:33:19.760 --> 1:33:20.920 up in a Jewish neighborhood? 1:33:21.080 --> 1:33:21.320 I did? 1:33:21.400 --> 1:33:22.240 But are we talking like? 1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:24.920 I lived in one house until I was five and 1:33:24.960 --> 1:33:27.680 then another one from like five on? So which one 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:28.479 we talk about here? 1:33:28.600 --> 1:33:29.960 I guess the five on one? 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:30.960 Goode? 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:32.480 You actually three limosts? 1:33:32.600 --> 1:33:32.840 I did? 1:33:33.040 --> 1:33:33.160 Well? 1:33:33.200 --> 1:33:34.600 Well, tell me more about your butt mets for what? 1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:35.360 So going on? 1:33:36.160 --> 1:33:38.320 It was kind of interesting because at the time, like 1:33:38.439 --> 1:33:40.760 I could only be in one limo. You can't put 1:33:40.800 --> 1:33:41.719 me in all limos. 1:33:42.280 --> 1:33:44.200 So you knew the girls and the people in my 1:33:44.400 --> 1:33:46.240 limo were my fucking favorite people. 1:33:46.400 --> 1:33:47.800 Oh no, did that make the people in the other 1:33:47.880 --> 1:33:48.639 limos feel bad? 1:33:48.680 --> 1:33:50.679 I feel like they were a little dumb because they're 1:33:50.720 --> 1:33:51.280 like twelve. 1:33:51.840 --> 1:33:54.040 Okay, so they but like maybe. 1:33:54.080 --> 1:33:55.760 The Ember one, you invited at least somebody that you 1:33:55.920 --> 1:33:57.839 liked or did you have any like forced invites? 1:33:59.200 --> 1:34:02.080 No, no, four stinvites. No, it was it was only 1:34:02.160 --> 1:34:04.920 forty five people. So it was all people that I 1:34:05.160 --> 1:34:08.479 liked or that were more of my acquaintances. But my 1:34:08.640 --> 1:34:09.960 core people were in my limo. 1:34:10.360 --> 1:34:13.599 Okay, yeah, do you do a lot of like stuff 1:34:13.640 --> 1:34:18.479 for the Jewish holidays? No at me either, although I'll 1:34:18.560 --> 1:34:21.920 say except tonight for but I actually. 1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:23.720 I am in for tonight for spot. It sounds fun. 1:34:23.800 --> 1:34:26.120 But you got like, are you gonna keep? You gonna change? 1:34:26.640 --> 1:34:27.919 Are you gonna put on a keepa. 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:29.960 Yeah? 1:34:29.960 --> 1:34:30.840 But keep keep the fit. 1:34:31.400 --> 1:34:32.600 I got fit on this. 1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:35.360 We can get you a big keeper. 1:34:35.479 --> 1:34:37.519 Okay, I know I find a big enough keeper. I'd 1:34:37.520 --> 1:34:37.800 be dawn. 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:42.840 But well, I was gonna say, uh, do you I 1:34:42.880 --> 1:34:45.519 don't they don't do? Do do women do to fill in? 1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:46.320 No? 1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:49.280 Because I'm always getting clocked by uh, like if I'm 1:34:49.280 --> 1:34:51.880 walking around Williamsburg, Like I always get clocked by the 1:34:51.960 --> 1:34:52.719 tafilling dudes. 1:34:54.479 --> 1:34:54.880 Do you do you? 1:34:55.080 --> 1:34:57.560 I guess? Do you know what I'm talking about? Like 1:34:57.600 --> 1:35:00.200 when you walk around h Williamsburg. 1:34:59.720 --> 1:35:02.880 Like if you're a guy and you look Jewish enough, 1:35:03.280 --> 1:35:05.840 like like an orthodox Jewish guy will. 1:35:05.680 --> 1:35:07.000 Come up to you and be like, hey, have you 1:35:07.120 --> 1:35:07.759 prayed today? 1:35:07.880 --> 1:35:09.920 I mean someone once stopped me on the street and 1:35:09.960 --> 1:35:12.400 gave me candles? Is that what it feels like? 1:35:12.600 --> 1:35:13.720 Yeah, it's like that. Yeah. 1:35:13.960 --> 1:35:15.240 Do they do they do they ask you if you 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:15.719 were Jewish? 1:35:16.040 --> 1:35:16.240 Yeah? 1:35:16.880 --> 1:35:18.439 Yeah? How do they? How do they do? 1:35:18.479 --> 1:35:21.719 It? Can smell us? I smell like a filter fish? 1:35:21.920 --> 1:35:22.200 Could you? 1:35:22.560 --> 1:35:23.880 Could you tell that I'm Jewish? 1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:27.800 Like I I assumed, but I didn't want to like 1:35:28.320 --> 1:35:30.120 assume wrong, so I just didn't say anything. 1:35:30.120 --> 1:35:32.000 He assume I was Jewish before I said anything? Yeah, 1:35:32.120 --> 1:35:33.599 what what made you feel that way? 1:35:34.600 --> 1:35:40.160 You're just like super weird, you know I I I 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:41.680 appreciate that. 1:35:41.880 --> 1:35:44.080 I say that, Like I'm also super weird. 1:35:44.320 --> 1:35:48.360 Okay, so what is super weird about you? 1:35:49.920 --> 1:35:50.160 Wow? 1:35:53.240 --> 1:35:55.160 Trying to think about the difference between weird and cool. 1:35:57.280 --> 1:35:59.000 You don't have to think about that. You can just 1:35:59.080 --> 1:35:59.920 tell that whatever you. 1:36:02.000 --> 1:36:02.160 Oh. 1:36:02.880 --> 1:36:05.920 When I match with someone on a dating app and 1:36:05.960 --> 1:36:08.880 get to know them, my first thing is I suggest 1:36:08.960 --> 1:36:09.280 a call. 1:36:11.120 --> 1:36:12.240 People are really thrown off. 1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:13.320 I do the same thing. 1:36:13.520 --> 1:36:13.720 Yeah. 1:36:13.880 --> 1:36:14.080 Yeah. 1:36:14.640 --> 1:36:17.400 After a few messages, I'm like I after a few messages, 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:20.479 I'll be like, h hey, would you actually want to 1:36:20.479 --> 1:36:23.320 do a video chat? Because on a because like you 1:36:23.400 --> 1:36:25.680 can only I think like it's it's good for a 1:36:25.720 --> 1:36:26.240 few reasons. 1:36:26.439 --> 1:36:28.879 Is it's very efficient. 1:36:29.320 --> 1:36:31.400 It's afficient for both you and the other, because neither 1:36:31.520 --> 1:36:35.040 you nor the person you're talking to wants to spend 1:36:35.120 --> 1:36:39.599 a whole fucking evening of their life with somebody who. 1:36:39.560 --> 1:36:41.400 Has a really weird voice, who has a. 1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:45.960 Really annoying voice, or looks different from their photos. See, 1:36:46.040 --> 1:36:49.960 the video chat is like for both ends. It's I 1:36:50.080 --> 1:36:52.960 get to go, Hey, here's what I look like today, 1:36:53.520 --> 1:36:55.800 Here's what I have a question. Here, here's a little 1:36:55.840 --> 1:36:58.560 bit of what here's like a preview, and if and 1:36:58.800 --> 1:37:02.880 after this little effort preview fifteen minutes, I'm keeping it. 1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:06.400 The fifteen minutes. I'm on my couch, she's on her couch. 1:37:06.920 --> 1:37:08.599 We don't have to leave, we don't have to spend 1:37:08.640 --> 1:37:10.920 any money. We don't have to do anything, and then 1:37:11.000 --> 1:37:13.320 if if the vibe is good, we upgrade it to 1:37:14.000 --> 1:37:15.280 an in person meet. 1:37:15.640 --> 1:37:20.120 So during the call, yes, are you am I in 1:37:20.200 --> 1:37:20.519 the suit? 1:37:20.680 --> 1:37:21.439 Are you decked out? 1:37:21.520 --> 1:37:24.479 I'm not gecked out, But occasionally do you say gekt out? 1:37:24.760 --> 1:37:25.000 Yeah? 1:37:25.520 --> 1:37:26.400 Like gekt out? 1:37:26.840 --> 1:37:27.080 Yeah? 1:37:27.439 --> 1:37:27.840 I like that. 1:37:28.280 --> 1:37:29.679 Did you just come up with that, gecko? 1:37:30.520 --> 1:37:32.080 Did you just say that for the first time? The 1:37:32.120 --> 1:37:32.599 gekt out? 1:37:32.680 --> 1:37:35.040 That's kind of how I refer to like being in 1:37:35.200 --> 1:37:35.839 the costume. 1:37:36.040 --> 1:37:36.479 It's cool. 1:37:38.760 --> 1:37:39.960 Fuck, What the hell was I going to say? 1:37:40.160 --> 1:37:41.439 You're talking about being on the couch? 1:37:41.600 --> 1:37:41.760 Oh? 1:37:41.880 --> 1:37:46.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, it's been. It's it's I've 1:37:46.800 --> 1:37:50.599 very much enjoyed the pre Yeah, you don't waste any 1:37:50.600 --> 1:37:52.439 other time. I was like, if I'm on a first date, 1:37:52.479 --> 1:37:54.400 it requires a lot of energy. I think to go 1:37:54.479 --> 1:37:55.760 on a first date, not. 1:37:55.840 --> 1:37:56.920 If it's with the right person. 1:37:57.400 --> 1:38:00.920 To be honest, I think the right a good date 1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:02.840 with the right person should give you energy. 1:38:06.680 --> 1:38:13.599 I quasi agree with that. I think, however, my energy 1:38:14.800 --> 1:38:18.920 is half. You know, I'm not gonna put like a 1:38:19.040 --> 1:38:21.080 full number to it. I won't say half, but part 1:38:21.120 --> 1:38:23.920 of how I how I part of my energy is yes, 1:38:24.000 --> 1:38:26.760 you're right, how the other person energy is. And then 1:38:26.840 --> 1:38:29.320 part of it is just like how I'm feeling, and 1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:31.120 I think, like to go on a date, and like, 1:38:31.280 --> 1:38:33.320 you know, like if I'm going on a date and 1:38:33.400 --> 1:38:36.240 I like, you know, care, it's like, you know, I'm 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:40.479 throwing all my best stories out there, I'm like, but 1:38:40.600 --> 1:38:43.920 I'm like trying, I'm attempting to channel, Like, Okay, I 1:38:43.960 --> 1:38:50.120 have a strong range in my personality. Like I'm like, 1:38:50.320 --> 1:38:56.680 under certain conditions, Under certain conditions, I'm the coolest, funniest, 1:38:57.400 --> 1:39:01.479 most charismatic guy ever. I under certain phases of the moon, 1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:06.479 certain amounts of like vib ance or coffee or like 1:39:06.640 --> 1:39:09.280 how my day was feeling, Okay, Like I can reach 1:39:09.400 --> 1:39:13.040 that pinnacle, and then I can also be like just 1:39:13.320 --> 1:39:16.400 just like a dreadful to be around and just be 1:39:16.560 --> 1:39:21.360 like like very socially awkward and have no energy and 1:39:21.680 --> 1:39:27.840 extremely timid and extremely like depressed or anxious, you know. 1:39:28.360 --> 1:39:32.040 And it's like I have a strong range, you know, 1:39:32.240 --> 1:39:33.360 And I feel like if I'm. 1:39:33.240 --> 1:39:35.960 On a first date, you know, and I care whatever, 1:39:36.439 --> 1:39:40.200 I'll attempt to I'll attempt I mean, actually I feel 1:39:40.240 --> 1:39:42.280 like where I land on any given day in that 1:39:42.479 --> 1:39:45.599 range is actually something that feels out of my control 1:39:46.040 --> 1:39:49.120 in many ways, in many sense I've attempted to solve 1:39:49.200 --> 1:39:49.680 for X. 1:39:50.160 --> 1:39:53.040 How in what conditions do I feel the most. 1:39:54.320 --> 1:39:57.480 Energized energized? When do you feel the most energized. 1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:00.560 Around two pm on a day that I took my 1:40:00.680 --> 1:40:03.559 vibeance at ten am, on a day where I'm around 1:40:03.720 --> 1:40:07.599 other people and you know, in settings like I feel 1:40:07.720 --> 1:40:10.960 very energized by settings like these, you know, where I'm 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:13.400 around other people in life and stuff like right now, 1:40:13.400 --> 1:40:16.320 I feel extremely energized. But you know, if whatever, if 1:40:16.360 --> 1:40:18.720 I just got back, if I just like, if it's 1:40:18.800 --> 1:40:20.880 like ten pm and I smoked a bunch of weed 1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:22.160 and I felt like shit all. 1:40:22.120 --> 1:40:24.160 Day, I'm not gonna be energized, you know. So I 1:40:24.200 --> 1:40:25.759 have a strong range in my energy. 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:28.000 But uh, I don't know. 1:40:28.000 --> 1:40:33.160 So again, I just wanted a whole ramp. But I 1:40:33.280 --> 1:40:35.320 think doing a call is not weird. I think people 1:40:35.360 --> 1:40:37.040 appreciate it. I think a call is good. 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:40.120 So let me ask you this. Okay, so you do 1:40:40.200 --> 1:40:41.920 a call? Yep, how many? 1:40:42.720 --> 1:40:46.640 Mathematically, how many of your calls have resulted in like 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:47.920 in person meetups? 1:40:48.800 --> 1:40:53.120 Maybe fifty percent? Some calls have been very weird. 1:40:55.120 --> 1:40:55.679 In what way. 1:40:57.400 --> 1:41:01.000 One guy had like a dog named Chicken, and he 1:41:01.080 --> 1:41:02.880 brought his dog on the call and he's like, look, 1:41:02.960 --> 1:41:06.400 chicken can howl. And then he's like, makes a noise 1:41:06.439 --> 1:41:10.800 at chicken, and Chicken starts howling, and then a lot 1:41:10.840 --> 1:41:12.479 of the times this is the weird thing. 1:41:12.560 --> 1:41:15.519 Okay, wait, wait, wait, before you get into that, you 1:41:15.680 --> 1:41:19.360 did not like when he made the chicken howl because 1:41:19.360 --> 1:41:23.160 you you proudly identified as weird, and so I assume. 1:41:23.240 --> 1:41:23.720 He was weird. 1:41:23.760 --> 1:41:26.760 But in that moment, I was like, Okay, it's weird, 1:41:26.840 --> 1:41:28.960 but I can get like it's kind of like a quirk. 1:41:29.320 --> 1:41:30.240 It's not a deal breaker. 1:41:30.360 --> 1:41:32.000 Yeah, sure, sure, sure, the. 1:41:32.080 --> 1:41:36.800 Deal breaker was here's an interesting thing, Okay, I with 1:41:37.000 --> 1:41:40.040 guys that I'm talking to, it's kind of a tell 1:41:40.120 --> 1:41:43.160 that I'm not that into them. Also, just we like 1:41:43.200 --> 1:41:47.639 look at each other's matches because don't you ever want 1:41:47.680 --> 1:41:49.080 to like know what your competition is. 1:41:49.320 --> 1:41:50.840 Why Why is that a tell that you're not that 1:41:50.960 --> 1:41:54.000 into them? Because I have a different perspective on that. 1:41:54.280 --> 1:41:57.960 Maybe it's not a tell, but maybe it's like it's 1:41:58.040 --> 1:42:00.800 a little bit more on the I don't care, which 1:42:00.920 --> 1:42:02.639 comes out more when you're not interested? 1:42:04.760 --> 1:42:08.200 Why is that on the I don't care, Okay, I'll 1:42:08.280 --> 1:42:10.040 here's what I think is. 1:42:11.800 --> 1:42:14.559 Like, I think that like when you're like, oh, let 1:42:14.600 --> 1:42:16.479 me see your matches or like let me see your conversation, 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:17.879 I think that's very vulnerable. 1:42:18.760 --> 1:42:21.360 You know, like that's a vulnerable thing to like show you. 1:42:21.400 --> 1:42:23.960 So vulnerable because you're just showing like all the attention 1:42:24.160 --> 1:42:25.360 you get from other people. 1:42:25.520 --> 1:42:25.880 I don't know. 1:42:26.000 --> 1:42:27.880 I think that like depends on the guy. 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:30.320 Like if it's someone who doesn't have a lot of matches, 1:42:31.240 --> 1:42:32.760 then maybe it's not the best look. 1:42:33.760 --> 1:42:35.960 But if it's someone who has a lot of matches, 1:42:36.120 --> 1:42:37.200 then maybe. 1:42:37.200 --> 1:42:39.080 But I think that like there's something It's like there's 1:42:39.160 --> 1:42:41.240 vulnerability within those conversations. 1:42:41.720 --> 1:42:43.880 And also, look, there is vulnerability in like. 1:42:46.080 --> 1:42:49.640 The thing that you're what I think, if I understand, 1:42:50.200 --> 1:42:53.640 if I correctly understand, the reason why you believe it 1:42:53.760 --> 1:42:56.479 is a tell that you're not that interested that same reason, 1:42:56.520 --> 1:43:00.120 if I correctly understand, it would be to me a 1:43:00.360 --> 1:43:03.280 display of vulnerability. And I think displays of vulnerability bring 1:43:03.360 --> 1:43:08.840 people closer together. I maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but 1:43:09.160 --> 1:43:10.320 with what you just said. 1:43:10.240 --> 1:43:11.840 I agree that it brings people together. 1:43:12.600 --> 1:43:16.720 But for people who are truly afraid of vulnerability, it 1:43:16.840 --> 1:43:20.200 almost like it can pull someone towards you because they're like, wow, 1:43:20.760 --> 1:43:23.479 like you're really vulnerable and that's cool, and I want 1:43:23.520 --> 1:43:25.320 to be more vulnerable, so I'm gonna come closer. 1:43:25.520 --> 1:43:25.760 Yeah. 1:43:25.840 --> 1:43:28.680 But then some people it's like, wow, I don't know 1:43:28.760 --> 1:43:31.280 what that is because I I was like taught to 1:43:31.360 --> 1:43:35.439 be tough, so vulnerability scares me and it can make 1:43:35.479 --> 1:43:37.200 people leave interesting. 1:43:37.680 --> 1:43:39.000 So it's a litmus test in that sense. 1:43:39.040 --> 1:43:43.720 It's a litmus test of how comfortable someone is with 1:43:43.840 --> 1:43:44.680 being uncomfortable. 1:43:46.040 --> 1:43:49.000 Okay, so fifty percent of these phone calls ended in 1:43:49.320 --> 1:43:51.760 person things. Okay, so did you have any other weird 1:43:51.800 --> 1:43:54.360 phone calls besides the guy making his dog bark? 1:43:56.960 --> 1:43:57.760 I'm sure I have. 1:43:59.800 --> 1:44:01.160 The you meet up with the dog bark guy. 1:44:02.120 --> 1:44:02.160 No. 1:44:03.760 --> 1:44:11.320 No, how soon into meeting someone, whether it's on a 1:44:11.360 --> 1:44:16.280 phone date or a real date, can you instinctively tell 1:44:16.400 --> 1:44:17.400 whether or not you like them? 1:44:19.680 --> 1:44:25.599 I would say within five minutes, if not less. 1:44:25.840 --> 1:44:29.639 Okay, and after five After five minutes, okay, let's say 1:44:29.680 --> 1:44:31.479 like all right, right now, I'm hovering my hand here 1:44:31.600 --> 1:44:37.040 for those listening on audio, if I if I'm up here. Okay, 1:44:37.520 --> 1:44:40.280 there's like there's neutral, right, yeah, okay, So does it 1:44:40.320 --> 1:44:43.640 take you five minutes to go from neutral to I 1:44:43.680 --> 1:44:47.200 don't like them? Versus can it take you five minutes 1:44:47.240 --> 1:44:48.599 to go from neutral to I like them? 1:44:51.080 --> 1:44:52.160 Or or do you know? 1:44:52.240 --> 1:44:52.640 Do you get on? 1:44:52.640 --> 1:44:57.040 I'm asking you no, okay, like, because you can very 1:44:57.120 --> 1:44:59.360 clearly Okay, I guess what I'm asking you is you 1:44:59.439 --> 1:45:01.880 can pretty easily tell if you don't like someone within 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:04.160 five minutes. So there's just five minutes enough time for 1:45:04.240 --> 1:45:06.320 you to tell if you do actively like someone. 1:45:06.439 --> 1:45:09.759 You know what I'm saying now, So I'm. 1:45:09.880 --> 1:45:11.000 I'm a different case. 1:45:11.400 --> 1:45:11.679 Okay. 1:45:12.800 --> 1:45:16.120 When I decide that I like someone, I almost immediately 1:45:17.600 --> 1:45:21.680 like once I've decided, it's done, they have to like 1:45:22.200 --> 1:45:23.479 be really fucked up. 1:45:23.560 --> 1:45:25.720 Dude, I think that's your yo. That's the thing about 1:45:25.760 --> 1:45:27.439 a lot of dates. It's like. 1:45:29.760 --> 1:45:31.280 I don't know if I'll put a gender on it, 1:45:31.360 --> 1:45:34.960 but like I think, like maybe I will, Like forgot, 1:45:35.000 --> 1:45:36.280 I think for a lot of guys is like a 1:45:36.360 --> 1:45:38.599 date is like it's. 1:45:38.520 --> 1:45:39.840 Only your game to lose. 1:45:41.080 --> 1:45:42.240 Can you explain that, Like what. 1:45:42.320 --> 1:45:44.920 You just said, if I like someone, it's done, right, 1:45:45.400 --> 1:45:47.800 So it's like when when I say, like, it's only 1:45:47.800 --> 1:45:49.320 your game to lose, It's like I assume when you 1:45:49.439 --> 1:45:53.679 like someone, it's done unless if they actively do something 1:45:53.760 --> 1:45:54.160 that is like. 1:45:54.280 --> 1:45:58.400 Very honestly, they could actively do something weird. Yeah, but 1:45:58.520 --> 1:46:01.080 it has to be like really really fucked up. 1:46:01.560 --> 1:46:04.880 Okay, like they have to kill someone. Really, that's it. 1:46:06.640 --> 1:46:09.559 Like once the times that I've decided about someone, uh huh, 1:46:11.040 --> 1:46:14.280 and I was so confident, except like maybe once or 1:46:14.320 --> 1:46:15.240 twice they're. 1:46:15.080 --> 1:46:16.400 The ones that has to have to end it. 1:46:16.640 --> 1:46:20.320 And you made that decision in five minutes? What information 1:46:20.400 --> 1:46:20.680 did you have? 1:46:21.200 --> 1:46:24.360 Maybe not five? Maybe not five hanging out together once? 1:46:24.760 --> 1:46:25.000 Sure? 1:46:25.040 --> 1:46:25.919 And then I've decided. 1:46:26.120 --> 1:46:29.040 Sure? What information do you gather that makes you like 1:46:29.120 --> 1:46:29.960 someone or an act like something? 1:46:30.000 --> 1:46:31.639 It's honestly a lot of its energy. 1:46:31.960 --> 1:46:32.200 Sure? 1:46:33.320 --> 1:46:36.080 Are they confident? Do they know who they are? Do 1:46:36.200 --> 1:46:37.320 you feel safe around them? 1:46:37.439 --> 1:46:37.639 Sure? 1:46:38.479 --> 1:46:40.599 And then there are certain things. 1:46:40.520 --> 1:46:44.200 Just like fix about their voice, like do they have 1:46:44.280 --> 1:46:47.479 a really weird voice or do they have any really 1:46:47.720 --> 1:46:50.960 intense views on things? 1:46:51.400 --> 1:46:58.040 Sure? Is there anything else that you I have things 1:46:58.080 --> 1:46:58.400 to share? 1:46:58.520 --> 1:46:59.840 Do you do you do you guys? Is there anything 1:46:59.840 --> 1:47:01.000 else do you want to show? Do you feel? 1:47:01.560 --> 1:47:03.800 Do you feel satisfied with this conversation or is there 1:47:03.840 --> 1:47:04.800 anything that you would want? 1:47:04.880 --> 1:47:05.719 Well, how are you feeling? 1:47:07.080 --> 1:47:09.080 I feel pretty good. I feel like I feel like 1:47:09.160 --> 1:47:12.160 this was a good hour and fifty minutes for me. 1:47:12.320 --> 1:47:16.200 I started today, I was like taking phone calls. That's 1:47:16.240 --> 1:47:19.080 how I normally do this podcast. But I was doing 1:47:19.120 --> 1:47:20.720 that for twenty minutes, and I was like, I can't 1:47:20.760 --> 1:47:21.240 do it anymore. 1:47:21.240 --> 1:47:24.000 I have to go outside. And so now I am here. 1:47:24.560 --> 1:47:26.639 I have some things went much better than it went 1:47:26.680 --> 1:47:27.599 better you thought. 1:47:27.680 --> 1:47:29.280 I feel like it much better, went much better than 1:47:29.320 --> 1:47:29.599 I thought. 1:47:30.320 --> 1:47:32.040 So I have a hot take. 1:47:32.240 --> 1:47:34.479 Hot take, and let me know what you think. 1:47:34.600 --> 1:47:35.080 Oh crazy. 1:47:35.479 --> 1:47:41.280 In New York, the coolest things are either downstairs or upstairs. 1:47:41.720 --> 1:47:43.360 I I like that hot take. 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:45.400 I think if you go down a flight of stairs 1:47:45.439 --> 1:47:48.720 for something, it's cool, into something like comedy. 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:52.320 Seller cool, smalls cool? 1:47:52.760 --> 1:47:54.479 What is Small's the jazz club? 1:47:55.000 --> 1:47:55.880 Oh I've never been there. 1:47:56.600 --> 1:48:01.920 Damn, I'm sure there's more. 1:48:02.760 --> 1:48:03.360 I agree with that. 1:48:03.560 --> 1:48:05.040 And upstairs it's cool too. 1:48:06.120 --> 1:48:09.240 I prefer a downstairs than an upstairs, but upstairs cool 1:48:09.240 --> 1:48:11.000 it means you, Oh there's the fucking yeah there he is. 1:48:11.560 --> 1:48:14.200 I love that guy. Okay, if you were only listening 1:48:14.240 --> 1:48:14.599 on audio. 1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:17.800 There's a guy who rides around town balancing a tire 1:48:17.840 --> 1:48:20.559 on his head, and he just drove by. 1:48:20.520 --> 1:48:22.519 And I got really so like, what's your dinner party 1:48:22.640 --> 1:48:25.040 trick that you're gonna pull out at the shab about 1:48:25.080 --> 1:48:25.679 dinner tonight? 1:48:25.880 --> 1:48:27.680 Oh shit, what's my dinner party trick that I'll pull 1:48:27.680 --> 1:48:28.719 out the shabout dinner tonight? 1:48:29.560 --> 1:48:33.080 Uh uh? 1:48:33.280 --> 1:48:35.960 Maybe I'll bring a pen and I'll be like, do 1:48:36.000 --> 1:48:38.559 you want to play? I'm thinking of like something quirky 1:48:38.640 --> 1:48:41.360 I can do. I can be like, uh, I'll bring 1:48:41.400 --> 1:48:42.560 a pen and be like, hey, do you want to 1:48:42.600 --> 1:48:44.200 play Tic tac toe on my arm? 1:48:45.000 --> 1:48:45.040 No? 1:48:45.160 --> 1:48:45.840 That's weird, right? 1:48:47.800 --> 1:48:47.840 No? 1:48:48.320 --> 1:48:50.559 Okay, well, what's your party trick? 1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:51.000 You have one? 1:48:52.920 --> 1:48:58.320 My party trick? I can balance a broom on my finger. 1:48:58.400 --> 1:48:59.920 But I feel like a lot of people could do that. 1:49:00.400 --> 1:49:01.400 A lot of people cannot do that. 1:49:01.600 --> 1:49:02.040 They can't. 1:49:02.280 --> 1:49:08.479 No, I'm a good dancer, Okay, I can sing. I 1:49:08.520 --> 1:49:11.800 can like crack out some amy winehouse. 1:49:14.000 --> 1:49:16.920 M Is there anything that I should be prepared for 1:49:17.080 --> 1:49:18.679 for this Shabbat dinner tonight? 1:49:19.920 --> 1:49:21.000 Should do I need to bring something? 1:49:23.600 --> 1:49:25.439 I don't know? 1:49:26.520 --> 1:49:27.519 Like that's the one thing. 1:49:27.640 --> 1:49:29.879 Like I'm an adult now, and I know you're supposed 1:49:29.920 --> 1:49:33.200 to bring things to dinner parties. Okay, but like what's 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:36.240 the rule on that if you get invited after three 1:49:36.400 --> 1:49:38.800 thirty pm and the parties at seven thirty? 1:49:39.520 --> 1:49:40.439 Like, are you exempt? 1:49:41.040 --> 1:49:43.680 I think we'll probably be fine. Who invited you? 1:49:45.240 --> 1:49:46.160 Some some person? 1:49:46.439 --> 1:49:50.120 Okay, it's his birthday tomorrow. Okay, we could like go 1:49:50.280 --> 1:49:53.320 havesies on some flowers. Maybe, oh you know, we could 1:49:53.320 --> 1:49:56.439 do we could bring uh champagne. No, I was gonna say, 1:49:56.439 --> 1:49:59.760 we should bring rainbow cookies. Yeah, he's a very Jewish food, 1:50:00.040 --> 1:50:02.200 like rugula. You know, it's like it's like a little 1:50:02.320 --> 1:50:04.680 like bites of cake with rainbow. 1:50:04.600 --> 1:50:07.000 And like, uh those those are always a hit. 1:50:07.120 --> 1:50:08.400 Yeah, do you know? Do you know what I'm talking about? 1:50:08.680 --> 1:50:10.599 But I feel like most of the Jewish places are 1:50:10.640 --> 1:50:11.280 closed right now. 1:50:14.720 --> 1:50:18.519 We get black and white cookies. Yeah, it could be cool. 1:50:20.160 --> 1:50:21.360 Is there anything else you want to say to the 1:50:21.400 --> 1:50:22.680 people of the computer before we go? 1:50:23.680 --> 1:50:24.080 Mm hmm. 1:50:31.800 --> 1:50:37.280 No, you're really nothing. You don't have anything? Oh there 1:50:37.439 --> 1:50:37.759 is again. 1:50:39.000 --> 1:50:40.519 I love this s guy. I'm gonna give him a dollar. 1:50:40.960 --> 1:50:41.000 What. 1:50:41.280 --> 1:50:43.559 Uh you have nothing? Any way? 1:50:43.560 --> 1:50:45.800 I said, you don't have to it's you. 1:50:45.960 --> 1:50:49.800 Yeah, I actually have something to say, but I want 1:50:49.840 --> 1:50:52.599 to Can I look it up? Do you have a second? 1:50:52.920 --> 1:50:53.040 Uh? 1:50:53.160 --> 1:50:53.400 Sure? 1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:54.120 Okay? 1:50:54.520 --> 1:50:54.720 Wait? 1:50:54.760 --> 1:50:55.040 What do you? 1:50:55.160 --> 1:50:55.519 Where are you? 1:50:55.760 --> 1:50:55.960 Are you? 1:50:56.320 --> 1:50:57.439 Is it like something from the internet. 1:50:58.080 --> 1:50:59.080 It's the name of something. 1:50:59.360 --> 1:51:01.720 Oh sure, yeah, yeah, you have a promote, you have 1:51:01.800 --> 1:51:02.719 some you want to promote. 1:51:03.080 --> 1:51:04.040 Yeah, but it's not for me. 1:51:04.439 --> 1:51:05.640 Okay, who's it for? 1:51:06.439 --> 1:51:08.800 It's a friend? Okay, well I met him once. 1:51:09.600 --> 1:51:11.240 You have so many You probably have so many friends. 1:51:11.320 --> 1:51:13.799 Man, give me one second. 1:51:14.120 --> 1:51:16.200 What do we know? Okay? Can I ask you? 1:51:16.320 --> 1:51:17.200 What is the thing? 1:51:18.439 --> 1:51:22.479 He He made a book and it's a really cool book. 1:51:22.520 --> 1:51:24.519 I think he would honestly be a really cool person 1:51:24.600 --> 1:51:25.280 for you to interview. 1:51:25.400 --> 1:51:25.599 Cool. 1:51:26.680 --> 1:51:29.760 It's called I think it's called Questions. I don't want 1:51:29.800 --> 1:51:31.680 to get it wrong, but I think it's called questions 1:51:32.200 --> 1:51:35.439 for humanity or questions something humanity. 1:51:36.280 --> 1:51:38.160 And he went around the world. 1:51:38.080 --> 1:51:41.200 And he asked people if you could ask one question 1:51:42.280 --> 1:51:46.599 to humanity, any question, what would you ask? And it's 1:51:46.640 --> 1:51:48.880 a mix of He took pictures for the book of 1:51:48.960 --> 1:51:51.160 the people he met along the way, and he included 1:51:52.000 --> 1:51:55.200 what their answers were. And he sometimes goes on the 1:51:55.280 --> 1:51:57.840 street and asks people. And I just think that that's 1:51:57.880 --> 1:52:02.640 a really cool, really cool. 1:52:04.240 --> 1:52:07.040 Oh wait, uh wait, we're almost done. We're almost done, 1:52:07.240 --> 1:52:10.880 and then we can then uh and then uh I'll 1:52:10.920 --> 1:52:11.640 tell you all about it. 1:52:12.479 --> 1:52:12.679 Wait. 1:52:13.760 --> 1:52:15.559 Oh yes, we were just talking about you guys. 1:52:17.479 --> 1:52:20.000 Oh wait, oh wait, okay, all right, that is actually 1:52:20.640 --> 1:52:22.960 that is actually extremely Okay, I'm gonna give some context 1:52:23.000 --> 1:52:26.240 for the audio listeners. Okay, So earlier, I was just 1:52:26.280 --> 1:52:30.280 talking about how occasionally, as I'm walking through Williamsburg, Jewish 1:52:30.320 --> 1:52:33.080 gentleman will clock me that I am Jewish and asked 1:52:33.120 --> 1:52:35.760 me to do the to fill in, and that that 1:52:36.040 --> 1:52:36.599 just happened. 1:52:37.240 --> 1:52:38.680 Wait, okay, can I can I do it off? 1:52:38.720 --> 1:52:38.920 Can we? 1:52:38.960 --> 1:52:40.600 Can I do it after we you should do it 1:52:40.680 --> 1:52:41.439 in the frog suit? 1:52:41.680 --> 1:52:42.160 Can I do it? 1:52:42.200 --> 1:52:43.439 I'll do Can I do it after we're done? 1:52:45.360 --> 1:52:45.479 Uh? 1:52:47.479 --> 1:52:49.320 Sorry, I want to just finish up, but I'll do 1:52:49.360 --> 1:52:53.960 it afterwards. Uh oh, let me let me finish real 1:52:54.040 --> 1:52:56.679 quick and then we'll do it. Okay, okay, cool, Okay, 1:52:56.720 --> 1:52:58.160 what was the thing you wanted to you wanted to 1:52:58.160 --> 1:53:01.680 talk about? Drop the name of the thing we're in. 1:53:01.880 --> 1:53:05.600 We're in big postgame podcast right now. I'm gonna end 1:53:05.640 --> 1:53:08.360 this thing. It's been to here we go, Okay, hit 1:53:08.439 --> 1:53:10.880 us with the self promotion. So it's not for me, 1:53:11.040 --> 1:53:12.840 but it's for I guess it's not self promotion, hit 1:53:12.960 --> 1:53:13.799 us with the friend promotion. 1:53:13.960 --> 1:53:18.280 It's called Questions to Humanity and it is a coffee 1:53:18.320 --> 1:53:22.639 table book that has questions. This friend of mine went 1:53:22.720 --> 1:53:26.080 around the world and ask different people if they could 1:53:26.160 --> 1:53:30.640 ask humanity one question, what would they ask? And he 1:53:30.720 --> 1:53:34.479 took pictures of them and it's just a really interesting project. 1:53:35.000 --> 1:53:38.559 So you should check it out. And also I will 1:53:38.760 --> 1:53:43.680 drop my Instagram it is Rachel Himmel r A C 1:53:44.080 --> 1:53:48.360 H E L H I M M E L. This 1:53:48.560 --> 1:53:48.880 was fun. 1:53:50.200 --> 1:53:52.000 Rachel, nice to meet you. Thank you very much for 1:53:52.040 --> 1:53:54.759 talking to a gecko. This has been being a gecko 1:53:55.880 --> 1:53:57.320 in the park in real life. 1:53:57.520 --> 1:54:00.320 This was great. What a fun day talking of people. 1:54:00.920 --> 1:54:05.960 If you're listening to this, uh it's over now go outside, 1:54:06.240 --> 1:54:09.640 go if you go leave, go go outside, touch some 1:54:10.240 --> 1:54:12.640 touch some grad do something with your life or not. 1:54:12.760 --> 1:54:14.479 You don't have to You don't ever have to do anything. 1:54:17.080 --> 1:54:22.160 Subscribe or don't do something or don't do something. Ghak 1:54:22.240 --> 1:54:24.759 Bless you all, thanks for watching. I'll see you again 1:54:25.640 --> 1:54:29.680 at another time and place on the internet or in 1:54:29.840 --> 1:54:30.480 the afterlife. 1:54:30.800 --> 1:54:32.280 Okay, Bye everyone, Thank you very much for watching