1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome listeners and watchers of the Therapy Gecko podcast. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: My name is Lyle. You might or might not know that. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: It's fine. 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: It is the fourth of July as of the day 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm recording this. I am here in Washington Square Park 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: in New York City, one of my favorite places on 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: the planet, and every time I come here, it's so lively, 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: It's excruciatingly hot. 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: But that's okay, because I sometimes feel as though temperature 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: is a thing that can be mentally mastered, you know 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like if I believe that I am 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: not excruciatingly hot and sweating to death right now, Like 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: if I ignore that, you know, if I'm so engrossed 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: in the conversation that I am having that I am 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: forgetting about how hot I am. I think I can 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: beat the heat. And so that's what I'm gonna do. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so engrossed in these conversations today that 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: I will not even even be thinking about the temperature, 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: and I will prove that all physical ailments are simply 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: of the mind, or or or they won't and I'll 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: have a heat stroke and die. But either way, I'm 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: gonna talk to people as a get go. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 4: My name is Judah. 26 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 3: Judah. 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you, mans, pleasure to meet you. 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: Like all right, So I'm gonna give some context real quick. 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: A lot of the times, like when I walk over 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: here to like set this stuff up, I'll encounter people 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: off camera and we'll have a little chit chat because 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: there's so many interesting characters here at the spark. And 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: so I saw you, Judah, on my way over here 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: to set up, and you had a little table and 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: two chairs, and I believe you had a little sign, 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 1: the little sign what's what did the signs say? 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 5: The sign today said what sparks your Ah, damn, I 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 5: already can't remember. I think I said what sparks your imagination? 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: What sparks of curiosity? Or like something like that. Yeah, 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 5: something like that. 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: And so you had a sign, and I was it's 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: like we're kindred, we're kindred spirits, as they say, both 43 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: set up in the park to you know, have conversations. 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 4: I mean, my sign is in green. 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: But well, here's what. 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting about you is I was 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: talking to you and I was like I came up 48 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: to you and I was like, hey, man, are you 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: making content? 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: And you were like, no, I'm just chatting with people. 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, you're so uh You're 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: so much. 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: Pure of a human being than I am. 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like, uh, I feel like, you know, 55 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: honest to God, swear in my life. 56 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: This is something I would really enjoy doing. 57 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 6: Even if there wasn't if there wasn't a camera a 58 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 6: camera here, but I I like, uh. 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 5: You know, I like this so many good lines and 60 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: they have to be captured and they have to be shared. 61 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, like who else will talk about, 62 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 5: you know, their knees exploding in chain mail? Like it's 63 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 5: someone's got to capture that. Yeah, that's that's your role. 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: Well that's yours. So let's talk about this. 65 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: You you said you've been doing chats with people in the. 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: Park for six years. 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 5: I just set up a table, two chairs and assign 68 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 5: different forward question each time, and people can write in 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 5: this little journal if they want, But it's really about 70 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 5: the conversation. 71 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: I got inspired because there were just a lot. 72 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: Of I mean, there's a lot of characters all over 73 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: the world, especially in the city, especially in Washington Square Park, 74 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 5: and I didn't want to walk up to people and 75 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: be like hey and start talking to them, or stick 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 5: a microphone on their face or something. So I want 77 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: to create a platform. So the best I could come 78 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 5: up with was a table and two chairs and sat 79 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: down and wait to see what happened. And you know 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: a lot of people, when given the chance to express themselves, 81 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: they will and if you kind of approach them with 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 5: no judgment, with an open mind and just an open ear, 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: people will be vulnerable. People will open up, and it's 84 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: a beautiful thing when they do. 85 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's so interesting because, like, again, you 86 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and I we were essentially doing the same thing, but 87 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: there's such a different dynamic to the fact that you 88 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: just do it and you don't have a camera rolling 89 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: or a microphone roll. 90 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tell me about that. 91 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that if that significantly affects your conversation? 92 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: So it's so interesting because like I would ask people, hey, 93 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 5: like if there was a camera here, do you think 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: you did answer different? It's a mix. Some people said yes, 95 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 5: some people said no. But I actually, just recently, just 96 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 5: the last couple of times I did it. I actually 97 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 5: have a microphone now because it's just sitting there it's conspicuous. 98 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 5: It's not like, you know, not a microphone like this, 99 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: just a recorder. Because I had way too many conversations 100 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 5: that were just absolute gold, and in so many ways 101 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 5: it's like, really stuff that I don't necessarily need to share, 102 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 5: but I definitely want to recollect on and like refer 103 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 5: back to from my own reference. And it was just 104 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 5: slipping through my fingers. Like I looked back at my 105 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 5: journal from three years ago and been like, just had 106 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 5: the most mind bending conversation about life with Lyle, and 107 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have know the fuck they said, I just 108 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 5: will have no recollection of it whatsoever, Yeah, you know, 109 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: And I felt like, Okay, so this is sliding through 110 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: my fingers and I want to be able to potentially 111 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 5: turn this into some art in the future. So I 112 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 5: don't know, and probably I like writing, so probably writing base, 113 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: but I just have no real recollection and I wasn't 114 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 5: disciplined enough after each time to go and write about 115 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 5: it or anything like that, so instead I was like, 116 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: let me just start recording and then I can work 117 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: with it later. I have a little disclaimer. It just 118 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 5: says like, if you'd like not to be recorded, let 119 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: me know and we'll see. So far it's been people 120 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: have been just as you know, the same. But I'm 121 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 5: sure for some people if there's a recorder there, they 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 5: would be different. 123 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: So how did you first get into doing this? 124 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: Well, I was just it was just curious. I mean 125 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: I was just sitting here. I was really high. I 126 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: was like, damn, there's a lot of really cool stories 127 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 4: around here, aren't there. 128 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 129 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: But again, like es suchally as a man walking up 130 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 5: to people, they're gonna be like, what's the catch? You know, like, 131 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 5: what's the what's in it for you? Why are you 132 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 5: talking to me? Sure, that's New York City in a nutshell. 133 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: But once you kind of make it more consensual and 134 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 5: they come over like hey, what's this? Just like you did, 135 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: you know, you'll find that people just willing to chat. 136 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's nice for I like doing the form. 137 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm not a big I mean sometimes I've done that, 138 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: but like you know, like the running Gun Street interviewers 139 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: like like I feel. 140 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 5: Like, uh, yeah, it's nice to set up a thing. 141 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: I mean, like people can come to you because you're 142 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: creating a space. You're not catching people unaware. Like it's 143 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: it's like right now when we're doing this like, yes, 144 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 5: we're in the park, but this is a space. It's 145 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 5: not just because you set up chairs a sign and 146 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 5: everything right right, and of course you can't. 147 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: Forget the get Go park. 148 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: So I feel, how did you start doing this? 149 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: So I just one day, I just got a table 150 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: two chairs off Facebook marketplace and just sat. 151 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: And there was no like, there was no impetus, there 152 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: was no no like real trigger. 153 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: Oh. 154 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 5: I mean I think like a two years earlier, I'd 155 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 5: seen someone set up with like a big folding table 156 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: with a microphone that said tell me your secrets. 157 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: And I asked him. I was like, hey, people actually 158 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: tell you the secrets. He goes Yeah. 159 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 5: I was like, you'll just you just hear people will 160 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: just come up just build their secrets to a microphone. 161 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 5: He goes, Man, I've heard the wildest shit. You wouldn't 162 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 5: even know the half of it. And I think that 163 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 5: was like I planted a seed. Sure, and then I 164 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: was high and unemployed six years ago and then was like, 165 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: screw it, let me try what's what's that can happen? 166 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 5: I spent a nice day in the park, and what 167 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 5: inspired you to dress up as a get go and 168 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 5: put green on your face and get people to just 169 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 5: be themselves. 170 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Well, I started doing this as like a I mainly 171 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: do it as like a phone call, right thing? 172 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: Right? 173 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: But today I actually, you know, it's funny. 174 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: I actually I sat down to record the phone call 175 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: version of this podcast. This episode was gonna be a 176 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: phone call episode, and I got like twenty minutes in 177 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, I cannot sit in this room 178 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: right now. 179 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: I have to go outside. 180 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, it was basically like, right now 181 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: is my version of like, you know what, it's a 182 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: nice day, let's do class outside today kind of a thing. 183 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 5: Wait, so do people just like do you say when 184 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 5: you're going live and then people ring in? 185 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: Like how does that work? 186 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: I go live on Twitch and people okay, got it? 187 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: Okay? 188 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 7: Yeah? 189 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: But so I have a question for you. Do you 190 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: do you consider yourself an open book? Do you talk 191 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot about your like, what was it? What was 192 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: your question today? What sparks your It was? 193 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: Damn it was? What what sparks? What memory sparks? 194 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: Joy? 195 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: Okay? 196 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 7: Joy? For you? 197 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: Do you answer your own questions? 198 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 199 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: I was. 200 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 5: I really want to tell you, but I know you 201 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 5: have a large platform, but fuck. 202 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: It, I'm gonna do it anyway. 203 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: I was on a very powerful psychedelic with my friends 204 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: on on a lake, a frozen lake in. 205 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 4: February, not this past we'd a February and we were 206 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: we we we we. 207 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 5: Took we took acid and we just went outside, not 208 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 5: really knowing it was cold, but we're like we played 209 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 5: it for eight hours like little kids, just like a 210 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 5: running around, you know, like your mom could just like 211 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 5: let you out of the house and you'd just come 212 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 5: back eight hours later and yeah you did who knows what, 213 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 5: but you had a great time. Yeah, it was exact 214 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 5: because like we you know, often when you're on psychodols, 215 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: you kind of have like a childlike wonder and we 216 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 5: were just playing on the lake and there was this 217 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: one moment where we had this game where the lake 218 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: was frozen and we would run as fast as we 219 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 5: can without slipping, and then like slide as far as 220 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 5: we could and we just like you could get the 221 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 5: fur this, you know, yeah, and we're all like giggling 222 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: twenty five year old kid, you know, like it was 223 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 5: fun as hell. And at one point we just like 224 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 5: pause and the sun was setting and it was we're 225 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 5: in this valley and like the mountains were We're lit 226 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 5: up this orange hue and it was like beautiful, and 227 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 5: it it like stunned. It stunned us, like we stunned 228 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 5: us into silence. And at that moment, as we're stunned 229 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 5: to silence, there's this huge v formation of geese like 230 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 5: passing over, like migrating or something, and there's like a 231 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 5: squawk and there's this lone squawk that just echoes through 232 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: this pristine valley, and I was it felt like I 233 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 5: was in a painting. 234 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 4: And we just look at each other. We were like, 235 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: that was such. 236 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: A moment that was just pure and wholesome and beautiful, 237 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 5: and fuck, I think we've peaked. 238 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 3: And by the way, first of all, I'm sorry. 239 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: But first of all, the funny thing to me that 240 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: I was gonna say is like when you when you 241 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: were like, oh, I want to tell this story, but 242 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if I should. 243 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 3: I was expecting something way worse than just you took it. 244 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: This is acid. Yeah, honestly, it's not that big a video. 245 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: This is everyone here and. 246 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: This radius of us are on acid right now. 247 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: That's true. 248 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: That's true. 249 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 250 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: That's that's really beautiful, though, that's really yeah. How many 251 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: of your friends were there? 252 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: It was three of my friends. 253 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was the only time that group of 254 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 5: was like, you know, different disparate friends from different groups, 255 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 5: but it was the only time that the four of 256 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 5: us got together. And god damn it was a good group. 257 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: How long was it? 258 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 7: That was. 259 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 4: Five years five or six years ago? 260 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 261 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: Probably around the time. 262 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, twenty nineteen, so a long time ago, chasing 263 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: that high ever since? 264 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Really you so you say that that that you peaked, right, 265 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: do you believe in I you know, it's funny. I've 266 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: been thinking about that concept, the concept of peaking and like, 267 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, having best stages of your life and you know, 268 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: is youth better than being eighty or you know what 269 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean? Like like can you put qualitative? 270 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: Can you? Can you? 271 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: Can you objectively? Or I know, I guess it's not earticularly, Okay? 272 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: Do you have subjective definitions of parts of your life 273 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: that were better or worse than others? 274 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: I got? 275 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: I got, Well, I think you know, if you're going 276 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 5: through some big life changes or there's harm to people 277 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 5: in your life, yeah, that can be worse for sure. 278 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 5: But I think what you're what I think you're alluding 279 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: to is the fact that you know, people look on 280 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 5: youth and they're like, oh, it was so good to 281 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 5: be young, And in many ways it is right, Like 282 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 5: you're in some of the best health of your life. 283 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: You can do some of the most stuff in your life. 284 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 5: You know, you're in many cases, so you know, the 285 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 5: most attractive you'll be in your life for you know, 286 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 5: for some people. 287 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: Subjectively, Again, I'm not saying that'scessily true. 288 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: We're seeing Helen Mirren and Zaddi's bro. 289 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 5: I mean that's like in there right now. I'm hoping 290 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 5: to be a Zaddy myself. But actually it's interesting you 291 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 5: clue that, the clue into deeper into that bring it 292 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 5: back to psychedelics. As a child, everything is so new, 293 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 5: and as you move through the world and your building 294 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 5: this model of the world, and it's like whoa, Like 295 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 5: everything's cool, exciting, Like even just something like going to 296 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: a new place is like whoa. But as you get 297 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: older and it's not. It's as you get more experience 298 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 5: that you also get more routine. You start packing more 299 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 5: things into your life, Like how many times do you 300 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 5: remember brushing your teeth? No, I do exactly, You don't 301 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 5: remember the distinct times. You've done it thousands of times, 302 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 5: but you don't really remember it because your brain just 303 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 5: condenses it. 304 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: I can probably count how many times I've lost though. 305 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: Don't we all right? 306 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 5: You know, as a dentist always says that, right, But 307 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: you know, but at the end of the day, like, yeah, 308 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 5: it's gonna hang out with the same people, you do 309 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 5: the same things. Your brain's gonna condense it down, right, So, 310 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 5: and as you get older, you just get more to 311 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 5: the same people, so your brain just shrinks time. And 312 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 5: it's like, you know, that's why youth seems like it's 313 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: so long and so exciting. 314 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 4: But if you live your life differently. And I've spoke and. 315 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: Yo, oh hey you know that you know this guy. 316 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: He's a great guy. 317 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: What's your name? 318 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 8: I got I'm at I just had six vegan hot 319 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 8: dogs today. 320 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: It's six vegan hot dogs. How much is that? Is 321 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: that the equivalent of zero regular hot dogs? 322 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: Right? 323 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah? Calorie wise like nutrient efficiency? 324 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many calories are in six vegan hot dogs? 325 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 7: I don't know. 326 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 8: They didn't tell me. They wouldn't tell me any details 327 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 8: behind it. Who's they the guy that ran the hot 328 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 8: dog getting contest. Oh I only had six, but the 329 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 8: winner had ten. 330 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: You weren't that far off. 331 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 7: I know, I was so close. I could have had it. 332 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 7: Wait but my interrupting therapy right now. 333 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: A little bit. 334 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: But that's that's okay, okay, it's all part of it. 335 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, we all therapize in our own way. 336 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: Well, uh, you know, is the green? 337 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 7: Does that work as sunscreen? 338 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: No? 339 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm probably in some form of physical danger 340 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: right now. 341 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 7: Do you have ac under there? 342 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: No? No, but a nice gust of wind just came by. 343 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: That's nice, it's nice. 344 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 8: I'm a good gus. Come on, and I love this 345 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 8: guy too. Judah yo, Juda is the man. I don't 346 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 8: know why he would be in there because he's so cool. 347 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: And wait this but hey, everybody needs there? 348 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: What this is this? Wait? How do you know this guy? 349 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 7: You're a Canadian coin? 350 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: Wait, that's a Canadian coin. 351 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,359 Speaker 4: Looks like it. He actually sat down to my little project. 352 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Oh, this guy, Adam sat down on your What did 353 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: you and Adam talk about? 354 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 9: Oh? 355 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 4: You remember the years ago? 356 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 7: It was like two years ago. But it turns out 357 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 7: I learned that he also went to Binghamton like me. 358 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: Oh really went in college. 359 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 8: We have different entrepreneurial ambitions and we're similar in a 360 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 8: lot of whiz. 361 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: That's cool. Wait, wait when did you When did you 362 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: guys meet two years ago? 363 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: We met it? 364 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: All right, okay, yeah, I guess you guys are still friends, 365 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: it seems. 366 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: And then I saw him in the park a couple 367 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: of weeks here. Yeah, hey, I know you. 368 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 7: We were doing we were doing a giant hug. We're 369 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 7: doing this thing called a super hug. 370 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 371 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 7: Have you ever heard of this? 372 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 10: No? 373 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 7: I so you would be very much about this. 374 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: Well, maybe what's a super hug? 375 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 7: Basically, you put. 376 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 8: Your left arm up, another person puts their left arm up, 377 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 8: and then you touch hearts and they give a deep 378 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 8: hug for at least like I think ten seconds. 379 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: Like a virgin orgy kind of Yeah, yeah. 380 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 8: Like a safe orgy. It's like a family friendly orgy. 381 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 8: Man like you legitimately like feel calmer afterwards. 382 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: Did you have you hugged anyone today? 383 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 384 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 4: You want to hug? 385 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 7: Yeah? 386 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: All right, we got a hug for the cameras. 387 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: They're hugging right now. 388 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: Wow, look at that Pride Month has extended into July. 389 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: You guys are hugging a long time. You can. 390 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: You can slap, but you cannot. Okay, makes sense. I'm 391 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm just gonna sit here while they hug that. 392 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: Released the ox, that released the serotonin. 393 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 7: Do you want to get go? 394 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: What? 395 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 6: Uh uh? Sorry, I have to finish this interview. But later, 396 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 6: later we can do that. 397 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: Good to see you too, Mane. 398 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 5: How was that Hug released some serotonin? Yeah, that's feel squeezed. 399 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: That's good. 400 00:15:59,000 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 401 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: Wait, I have completely forgot what we were talking about 402 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: before him, but. 403 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: I oh yeah, no, don't condense your memories. Live you 404 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: can live life differently. I spoke to old people who 405 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: lived there. 406 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: They're like, oh, my best life was, My best time 407 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 4: was in my sixties. 408 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 409 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that I've had. 410 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I remember coming out here to do this podcast and 411 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: I talked to some guy who was like fifty eight, 412 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, life's the best it's ever been. 413 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 414 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 5: No, I think I think it's it's it's bullshit of 415 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 5: the youth, that youth has to be the best. 416 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: Like I think our society tells us that, our media 417 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: tells us that. 418 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 5: But honestly, no, he's I think your best times are 419 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: it's in it's here it's how you react to things 420 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 5: that happen in your life. Not your life will always 421 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 5: be happening. Questions are you gonna how you gonna react 422 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: to it? 423 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: My dad is sixty six years old, and I was 424 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: I was talking to him on the phone like last week, 425 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: and he was like, you know, I've noticed that the 426 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: less years I have left on this earth, the less 427 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: anxiety I have. And I and I it's true, I 428 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: think he's like he like, you know, it's fine. I'm 429 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven and I'm like always I'm like having like 430 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: weird excidental crisis about death and whatnot. But it's like 431 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: you see, like those dudes in their seventies just it's 432 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: like just chilling. They don't even yeah they're not they're 433 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: and they actually they you know, they could die any 434 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: fucking day. 435 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: And it's like, well, it's one of. 436 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 5: Those things that like, you know, when you have the 437 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 5: prospect of it being taken away, then I feel like 438 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 5: you can also value it more. Like you get a 439 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 5: cold and you're like, fuck, I just want to breathe 440 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 5: again through my nostrils, right, But then once you can, 441 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 5: you totally forget all about that. 442 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: So Judoh, what's your what's next for you in life? 443 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: Next? 444 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: Your ultimate dream goal? 445 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: What not ultimate dream goal? I want to live a 446 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 4: day without time? 447 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: You want to live a day without time? 448 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 449 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: You mean like oday where you don't check your. 450 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 5: Like I just do never know what I wake up 451 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 5: and I go to sleep without ever once knowing what 452 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: time it was. 453 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: What's skipping you from doing that. 454 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: Myself? Honestly? 455 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? 456 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean do you have any meetings? Do you 457 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 4: have the meetings? Meetings? I just got laid off, so 458 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: you know, let's I got no meetings. 459 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: What were you? 460 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 5: What did you get laid off from some technol tech bros? 461 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: It like an AI web three AI AI thing. 462 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm gonna look for my next AI thing 463 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 5: to hopefully not make a part of my personality at all. 464 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: So you but you were working in AI? Yeah, something 465 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: like that, so as you know. 466 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: But I have a curious about your perspective as somebody 467 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: who both values genuine human connection and has worked in AI. 468 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: Do you think that, uh, do you think AI is 469 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: coming for genuine human connection or do you think will 470 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: be Okay? 471 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: I think a lot of the same people who are 472 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 5: relying on technology now for connection and it's not doing 473 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 5: the same thing, arguably the same people who rely on 474 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 5: AI for connection, and we'll be doing the same thing, 475 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: but we're there. 476 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: Will be easier. I do I do worry. I do worry. 477 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot a lot of kids now 478 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: we're using it as therapists. I and it's not even bad. 479 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 5: Have you tried using AI for therapy? 480 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 3: I use AA for therapy all the time. 481 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: Actually, yeah, it's pretty good in it. Yeah, it's got 482 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: it's he's got some pretty objective, well well grounded. 483 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 3: I genuinely do I like AI for therapy. It's just 484 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 3: you have to. 485 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: I think when people try to make it like it's 486 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: not a friend, it's not your friend. 487 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: It doesn't it's not you don't, it doesn't love you people. 488 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 5: But people do re lean on it as such, and 489 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 5: I think there will be people who do. But there's 490 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 5: also gonn be a generation of kids who look at 491 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 5: this and be like fuck that counterculture, and they'll be 492 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 5: anti I. They'll be anti tech, they'll have flip phones 493 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 5: and all that. 494 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they re do. 495 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 4: They were doing that. Yeah. 496 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: I was talking to someone. 497 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: I went to this like film festival at a dive bar, 498 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: like a few weeks ago, and I was talking to 499 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: this guy who's like in a band, and he was 500 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: he was like in his thirties, and he was like 501 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: talking about like, you know, being at this Like I 502 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: was asking him, like what the punk scene is like now, 503 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: and it's like there's still like you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, 504 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: eighteen year old kids who are like goss, you know 505 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, there's still there, Like yeah, and it's 506 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. They never look kind of crazy because 507 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: it's like back at that, like people were doing that 508 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: ship in. 509 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: Like the eighties, and it's still they're on it. 510 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 5: They're still under there's still underground raves. There's still you know, 511 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 5: there's they like the kids will be all right, right. 512 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: I think they'll be fucked up in their own way, 513 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: as we were fucked up in our own way, as 514 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 5: our parents are fucked up in their own way, but 515 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 5: like they'll be all right. 516 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: Do you feel do you feel sorry? 517 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm checking my ship to make sure you do you 518 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: feel fucked up in any ways? 519 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a good question. 520 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 5: I mean, I think one of the reasons why I 521 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 5: sit in the park and talk to strangers is because 522 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 5: I have like a deep need I want to be 523 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 5: liked by I want to I want to leave a 524 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: positive impression with everybody I meet, not necessarily be liked, 525 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 5: but at least leave a positive impression. 526 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: I have that ex I have that exact same design, 527 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: and like, I want to leave a positive impression. And 528 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: I and I've had like times where because I sometimes 529 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: people well both like in like my personal life and 530 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: in my gecko life, like I I try to I 531 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: want people to come away having a positive experience. 532 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 6: For me, I fully submitted myself to the fact that 533 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 6: it's just never gonna be a hundred You're never gonna 534 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 6: be one hundred percent success. 535 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 4: Do you think? 536 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: What do you think of the differences in yourself between 537 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: your real life and your get go life. 538 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: Well, Gecko life is like. 539 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Like I'll tell I've told I've told the story on 540 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: this podcast once, but I'll tell it to you. I'll 541 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: tell it again. Is so I do like live shows 542 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: where I dress up as the gecko, and and after 543 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: after my shows, I do like a little like it's 544 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: I do. 545 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: It's like a free meet and green. 546 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't make people pay like a ticket price for it, 547 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: and like I just stand around and I meet everyone 548 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: after the shows. And I did a show in Austin, 549 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: Texas once, and I said, there was like a hundred 550 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: people in a line. I sat there for like said, 551 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: there for like an hour and a half, like meeting everyone, like, 552 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: and I was it was very important to me that, like, 553 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, in those interactions, like I want people to 554 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: come away feeling good. And I was like thinking about 555 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: that and I was, you know whatever, and I do it. 556 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: And like there was like a security guard at the 557 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: venue and he was like, I've never seen anyone who 558 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: played this venue stay after the show and do that. 559 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: And that made me feel so good. And then Judah, Yes. 560 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: The next morning, I go, I'm this is just me 561 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: being like mentally ill. I go, I checked my own subreddit, 562 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: which is a thing you only do if you're mentally ill. 563 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: And I looked and like, there's a post on my 564 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: subreddit being like I am no longer a fan of Lyle. 565 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: And it was like I was at Lyle's Austin show 566 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: last night and I went to his meet and greet 567 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: and I told him I was high, and he gave 568 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: me a weird look and I told him and I 569 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: also told him it was my birthday, and he for him. 570 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: He did not even say happy birthday. 571 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: And I was like, she was like, I got I 572 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: bought merch and I'm trying to sell it if anyone 573 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: wants to buy it. 574 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: And I was like, come on, man, and you know, it's. 575 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: The dangers of a parasocial relationship. 576 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: I've told the story on the podcast for but whatever. 577 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: Like it's fine. I told so. I told that story 578 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: on the podcast and then I got a comment on 579 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: on my podcast from her and she wrote something like 580 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: she wrote like l O L sorry I was being 581 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: a bitch or something, and I wrote back, I was like, oh, 582 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: it's totally cool man, happy late birthday, which was kind 583 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: of nice because in life you never ever, ever, ever 584 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: ever get closure like that. 585 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 4: It's nice that even from a little interaction. 586 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I have I have. 587 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: Stuff like that where I'm like, uh, you know, or like, 588 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, you ever walk away from a conversation 589 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: being like, oh man, I think I was pretty annoying 590 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: in that conversation. 591 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was quite. 592 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 5: Quite a few times. Yeah, it's an ever improving uh 593 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 5: discipline in art to try to I think if you're 594 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 5: not looking back and cringing, then you're not growing. 595 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. 596 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: I agree, you know, I agree. I'm still a firm 597 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: believer in that. 598 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, you you should probably try 599 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 5: to keep the cringing less hard, but still keep cringing. 600 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? 601 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 9: Yeah? 602 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don want to beat yourself on Yeah, exactly. 603 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: You want to have the I this is one of 604 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: the things I feel like I talk about a lot. 605 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: It's like there's an optimal level of conscientiousness to have, 606 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Like like some people are so conscientious and don't want 607 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: to offend people so much and they don't want to 608 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: cause any amount of ruckus, so they never take any 609 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: chances or ever do anything ever, Okay. And then there's 610 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: some people who are not consciousness at all, conscientious at all, 611 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: and they just like fucking full send it all the 612 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: time every day, which of course lends people in trouble 613 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: as well. So you want to have the right I 614 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: feel like you want to have the right amount of conscientiousness, 615 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: skewing towards having less conscientiousness. 616 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: I you know what I think, I think I agree 617 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: with that. It's an Aristotle's golden Yeah. 618 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 6: Aristotle's gold to me, of course, of course, is that 619 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 6: is that did he come up. 620 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 5: With that well, he basically just said out with all 621 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 5: types of qualities, like you know, between courage and cowardice, 622 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 5: Like you know, if you're too courageous, you'll get yourself. 623 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 4: Killed in combat. 624 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're too you know, a coward you'll never stand 625 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 5: up for anything, and there's something in between. 626 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: You know. 627 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you an example. Your friend Adam. Yeah, 628 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy. I really did not want 629 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: to hug him. 630 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: I know, I know, but he he is the kind 631 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 5: of person who will want to hug everybody. 632 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: But but but in my head, I was like, oh, man, 633 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess in my head, I was like, 634 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: I feel like kind of a jerk. 635 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: I should have set up and be like, oh, got 636 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 4: the keup on you. 637 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, no, it's not a big deal at all. 638 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: But I was like, oh fuck, I'm being kind of it. 639 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: But also it's like you have to you have to 640 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: have the right amount of like ah whatever, just fucking 641 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: hug the guy versus. 642 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: Like, you know what, I don't I'm gonna not. 643 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah no he yeah yeah. He Also I'll just 644 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 5: he is a club promoter, was a club promoter. 645 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: It seems like a nice gentleman. 646 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's That's the the other thing I 647 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: really know about him. To be honest, I don't remember 648 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: anything else. 649 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: People ask me this question all the time. I truly 650 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: never know how to answer it. 651 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: But what's the most memorable conversation you've had? 652 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: M I mean, do you want me to get dark? 653 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: Deep? 654 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: Funny? 655 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: I mean, let's do a dark one and a funny one. 656 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 4: Dark one. I spoke to someone who he comes up 657 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: to me. 658 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 5: His skin's all yellow, not in a racist sense, like 659 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: his jaundice, and he just goes, I got three months 660 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 5: left to live. What advice would you give me? And 661 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 5: I'm a twenty five year old kid. I was like, fuck, 662 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 5: I don't remember what I said to him, but I 663 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 5: remember he cried and we hugged, so I think it 664 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 5: made a difference to him. 665 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 666 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: I try to be as upbeat and positive as I could, 667 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 5: but man, I mean that was a hard one. I mean, 668 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 5: because all this stuff about it's gonna be all right 669 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 5: and all that stuff. Young, he's like probably in a six. 670 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 2: These you know, did you keep in touch with them 671 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: at all? 672 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 4: No? 673 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 5: No, And he just walked away. And I mean, I 674 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 5: think a lot of the beauty of the conversations is 675 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 5: when they just kind of, you know, they don't keep going, 676 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: you know, and it's just kind of that's the interaction 677 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 5: of itself. 678 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's where you're like, did I hallucinate that? 679 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? 680 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, so that was that was a heavy hitting one. 681 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 4: I mean, uh, I don't know more in a more 682 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 4: lighter sense. 683 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: I guess, well before we move on, Yeah, I'm curious, Uh, 684 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: how long did you talk to this guy for? 685 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 5: It's hard to remember. I mean this is years ago, 686 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: probably like half an hour or so. I mean most 687 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: of my conversations go like thirty minutes to an hour. 688 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Yes, cry it together. Do you remember, Like what do 689 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: you remember, like what it set? What was the point 690 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: where you started tearing up? Or was it just kind 691 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: of like a graduat. 692 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 5: I think it's when we were trying to focus on 693 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 5: what he had, what he had lived, and like examining 694 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 5: the people who have been there for him and like 695 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 5: taking gratitude for all that. Yeah, And we discussed how 696 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 5: it's so difficult often to talk to the people who 697 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 5: you love and tell them the things that you love 698 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: about them. Like for some reason, people get really awkward 699 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 5: when they start saying what they love about you and 700 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 5: but like it's way easier to be critical and like 701 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 5: because when someone makes you feel bad and to be like, 702 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 5: well it's how you'd X Y and Z. But like, 703 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 5: you know, we choke up and it's harder to get 704 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 5: that out. I think we're talking about how he's like, yeah, 705 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 5: I haven't said that enough to the people I love 706 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 5: in my life. I need to go back. I need 707 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 5: to tell X, Y and Z this and. 708 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: Who do they have to tell? 709 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 4: And then you had a daughter. I believe you had 710 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: a daughter. 711 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh who he was like just getting back 712 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: in touch with once he got his terminal illness. Yeah, 713 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 5: sh it's not not not light, but it was it's real, 714 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 5: you know, and it's it's real and it's happening around 715 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 5: us all the time. 716 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. Uh. 717 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: You know it freaks me out a little bit. Is 718 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: that death is not like an event at the end 719 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: of your life. It happens every second. Interests think about 720 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: death is a thing that happens every day, Yeah, you know, 721 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: every moment once. 722 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I get essential about. 723 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, you think it's well, there's two ways you could 724 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: take that. You could be like, dead is happening around 725 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 5: you to all the people around you. Eventually it hits you, 726 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 5: right or you are dying every moment and you will 727 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 5: never get the past to you back, and all you 728 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 5: can do is move forward, which gets really inspirational. 729 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 7: Right. 730 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's how I that's that's how I think 731 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: about it. 732 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. 733 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: It's not a it's not I think it's a I 734 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: think that that is. I was talking about the conscientiousness spectrum. 735 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I think that's an overly conscientious way to live, Okay, 736 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think that's why. 737 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you should. 738 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: You should think about the fact that you're gonna die, 739 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: because it puts a little bit of pressure on you 740 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: to like do certain things. 741 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 3: If you think about too much, you can see if 742 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: you can't. 743 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: Actually live every day like it's your last, otherwise you 744 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 5: will not have a saving exactly. 745 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: So exactly. Too much consciousness is bad. 746 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad. 747 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to be you want to again, there's 748 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: optimal amounts of consciousness. 749 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: I think. 750 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: Okay, what's the what's what's the funny one? 751 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: Funny? 752 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 5: Okay, funny is a hard one. Oh, there was a guy. 753 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 5: There was a guy who spoke to me who all on. 754 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: Sorry and keep talking, checking to make sure to speak 755 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: to myself. 756 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was there was this guy who he sat 757 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 5: down and he just does this and he's like, hey, 758 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: h what are you What are you doing here? 759 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm just talking to people. 760 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: And then he does this and he just like falls over, 761 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 5: like falls over in the chair, like like spends like 762 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 5: twenty seconds studying it. And I'm like Jesus christ Man, 763 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 5: like are you okay? Yeah, he's a clown. He guy's 764 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 5: a professional. 765 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: Oh he's a clown. 766 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 11: A professional. 767 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: He's like he's a fucking asshole. That's such a dick thing. 768 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 6: Well, he would have someone to me if someone came 769 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 6: If someone came up and was like hey can I 770 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 6: sit there and then just started like destroying my setup, 771 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 6: I'd be like fuck you. 772 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 4: In his defense, he was just moving the chair around. 773 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: Okay. 774 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: He was good. He was He wasn't like knocking over 775 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: the sign or anything like that. 776 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 5: But then he would like put down his his thing 777 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 5: and like it would like knock over. He's like the 778 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 5: dude was like so clumsy, clumsy in like a clean way. 779 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 5: I was like I respected it. And he was also 780 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 5: a comedian he was also I feel he was also 781 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 5: fucking hilarious, So that was just but the guy was 782 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 5: just like having me in stitches the whole time, and 783 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 5: he was just like you know you, I mean, you 784 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 5: were one of these people, but you meet someone you're like, oh, 785 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 5: you're a character. Sure, yeah, and he was like a 786 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: true character in the in in the purest sense, and like, yeah, he. 787 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: Forgot his name already, but yeah he was. He was funny. 788 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe he wasn't I you know, I think, yeah, 789 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think the part of 790 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: me that wants to like if someone came up and 791 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: did that was like destroying my stuff. I think I 792 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: would have u you know, there's like two wolves or whatever, 793 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: and I would and I would definitely have one of 794 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: the wolves. 795 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: In my mind. 796 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: Uh, and then the other wolf would be like, it 797 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: is pretty funny. 798 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: It was pretty funny to do that. 799 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: It was you had to see it, you know. 800 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 5: It's a very clowning is a very uh gotta see 801 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 5: to believe it kind of thing. 802 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: Sure, for sure. 803 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, Judah, Yeah, it's just so cool. It's just 804 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: so awesome that you've been doing this for I appreciate what. 805 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: You do too. 806 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: I've been following your your stuff for a while and honestly, 807 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: it's it's remarkable what you get people to open up about. 808 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: And then what the the the. 809 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 5: Range of the human condition that you capture is I 810 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 5: think one that anthropologists in the future will have a 811 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 5: wonderful time going through. 812 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: But you know what's funny is I feel like, I 813 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: mean you've been well, yeah, you mean you've been doing 814 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: this longer than I have. I I can't imagine I've 815 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: I've covered many topics that you have not already. 816 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 5: From different angles, sure, yeah, from different angles. But yeah, 817 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 5: it's it's just, uh, the same book translated in two 818 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 5: different ways. 819 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I find that one very green. 820 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 4: And you know, yeah, well. 821 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 3: I find that a lot of. 822 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: Humanity struggles and joys are quite common. Like you know, 823 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: is thoughts aren't particularly unique, nor a situations are. 824 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: This, And tell me if you agree with this. 825 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 5: I feel like these kinds of things makes you believe 826 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: in the power of cliches. Yeah, like you know what 827 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: I'm saying, because like, you know, I read that line recently. 828 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 5: It really stuck out, and I'm like, oh, because you 829 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: can say, never judge a book by its cover, you know, 830 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 5: like you never know. I always treat everybody with kindness 831 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 5: like you treat yourself. 832 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 4: And it's true, it's true, but. 833 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 5: It's you don't really internalize that lesson until you put 834 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: yourself in these kind of situations and expose yourself to 835 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: people's actual, more deeper and more nuanced situations and stories 836 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 5: that it starts to really internalize. And then that's how 837 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 5: it actually translates into action, because just hearing it does 838 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 5: not translate into action. And that's partially what this is 839 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 5: an exercise of, is repeatedly making sure that I don't 840 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 5: jump to conclusions, that I don't create a space of 841 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 5: judgment and that sort of thing. 842 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 4: So that's the Yeah, I like that. 843 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 3: Okay, that's gonna be. That's gonna be. 844 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: My takeaway from our conversation is, don't judge, don't jump 845 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: to conclusions, don't judge a get go by its skin, 846 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: beautiful juda else you want to say to the computer 847 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: before people in the computer? 848 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 849 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 4: Uh is also a cliche. 850 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 5: But and I don't know who needs to hear this 851 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 5: right now, but you are enough and that's okay. 852 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh I don't I I feel like I 853 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: always wonder about that. 854 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 4: Oh no, oh shit, my parting message has a quick. 855 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 3: Why your parting message? 856 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: I feel like I just had a conversation on the 857 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: show about this, but I don't know, if I don't know, if. 858 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear no, no, you can't, you 859 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 4: can't say that. And then well I have two wolves. Okay, okay, 860 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: what's one wolf? 861 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: Well, one wolf? I think one wolve is is. 862 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: Very capitalists in the sense of like, no, you must 863 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: produce value of some kind or push yourself through your 864 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: extra through your extrinsic. 865 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: Extra is that extrame is extrinsic extrinsic actions. 866 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: And then the other part is more like, uh, purely 867 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: just exist. 868 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: Thing is fine. 869 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: Outside of myself, Like I don't. 870 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 4: So you apply for yourself personally, Yeah, I. 871 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: Know, I think about myself personally, think about like. 872 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 5: But you use that wolf to drive you, like to 873 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 5: drive you like like like on a larger scale, I believe. 874 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: I do believe like everyone is enough like as they are, Like, 875 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. 876 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 4: Think you should have to change what about what about 877 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 4: this message? 878 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: All right, well, your message could be whatever it is. 879 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 5: You know, still a little little asterisk there. You are 880 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: enough unless you're not producing anything. For the American economy, 881 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 5: in which case you can go fuck yourself, just. 882 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 4: Like the big beautiful Bill told you to go fuck 883 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 4: yourself too. That's a good as. 884 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: I guess, well, okay, you know, no, like okay on 885 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: my and my personal level, right. What what bothers me 886 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: about the you are enough thing is like I have 887 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: been at times deeply unhappy. And when you're deeply unhappy 888 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: and somebody tells you, hey, man, you're enough, you want 889 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: to kill them because you're like, if I were enough, 890 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be so unhappy, like. 891 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 4: When you're depressing, like it's gonna be okay, and you're like. 892 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: Fuck you, Well, well that not even that be like 893 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: like like if you're like miss if you're like miserable 894 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: or you're do you don't feel good? Do you have 895 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: you feel a yearn or you feel depressed, and people go, 896 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: you're doing fine as you are, It's like no, I'm 897 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm If I were enough, I wouldn't be struggling, you know, 898 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: And so that's I think, Uh, that's part of the reason. 899 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: I but it's so you know, it's uh, it's a 900 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: weird Uh. I don't know how you would refer to it, 901 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's paradoxical in that sense because also 902 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: the struggle might be you know, there's two I feel 903 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: like there's two ways to uh be happy, which is 904 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: and again it's a it's a spectrum. 905 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 3: It's uh the uh. 906 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: You can either get everything that you want and be 907 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: satisfied or not want anything. 908 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 3: And I think somewhere, I. 909 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: Don't think you'll get everything you want and you're never 910 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 4: gonna get it. I think even if you get everything 911 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 4: you want, you won't be satisfied. 912 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 5: So actually that's where Buddhism comes in, right, just release 913 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 5: yourself from all wants and you're good. 914 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't do that. 915 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: That's a boring that's a that's a boring life, releasing 916 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: yourself from all wants. 917 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean life, life is fun when 918 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 5: you when you chase desires. 919 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: For sure, I think, well, I lie somewhere in the middle, 920 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: because you're never gonna I lie somewhere the middle. 921 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: Because if you are the Buddha and you're sitting under. 922 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 5: Baby, golden mean golden mean if Yeah, it's the because 923 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 5: like if you're if you're the Buddha and you're sitting 924 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 5: under a tree, you never want anything and then you die. 925 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: It's like you sat under a fucking tree your whole life. 926 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: That was that was stupid. Why'd you do that? But 927 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: then if you if you're like I must have one. 928 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: But then if you're like, you know whatever, you're elon 929 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: musk and you're like I need to have three hundred 930 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: billion dollars and I'm insane, and you like your wants 931 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: are completely unchecked and out of control, then you also 932 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: missed the point. 933 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: So you want to you want to again, that's true, 934 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: that's true. 935 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: That's true. 936 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 5: Okay, So so okay, you are enough, but you're also 937 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 5: gonna grow. 938 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: I like that. 939 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: I like that. 940 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 3: You're enough as you are, but you shall be more. 941 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 4: There shall be there shall be more, you know. I 942 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 4: like that. Yeah, you are enough, but there shall be more. 943 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I like that. We gonna end on that, 944 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: all right, Jude, very nice to me. I followed the 945 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: can you want to shout out your thing? 946 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 5: Oh no, no, it's not for that, Okay, cool, It's 947 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 5: only for people who sit down and speak. 948 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 2: Dude, your rock man. Uh, that's so awesome. 949 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 6: I have a deep I have a deep respect for you, 950 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 6: but I really appreciate it. 951 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 5: I try to keep it, keep it intimate, keep the 952 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 5: engagement with the people who actually have a stake in it, 953 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 5: and not passively you know, found it or something like that. 954 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 5: You know. 955 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: So very beautiful, very beautiful. 956 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: All right, bro, keep this up. 957 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 5: I love what you're doing and can't wait to see 958 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 5: what absurdy you have. 959 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 4: You edit this into. 960 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: Jud I'll I'm sure if you're here often, I'm sure 961 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 1: I'll see you again. 962 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 963 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: Man, I gotta say, I'm I'm very inspired by by 964 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: that conversation. You know, I feel like, oh, what's up? 965 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he left his back back. I'm very inspired 966 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: by that conversation. 967 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: Uh you know. 968 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: Oh, oh someone took a photo. Oh let me see 969 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: this photo. Oh oh here, Oh that's such. 970 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 6: A great photo. Oh that's such a great photo. Oh 971 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 6: I really like that. 972 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: Wait here, hold on here, you know what I have 973 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: your Instagram. I'll send you all right you want if 974 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: you can take a picture of it right now, and 975 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: I'll also send you a picture I'll for the folks 976 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: watching this on video, I'll post the Yeah, check that out. 977 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: Wow that's a beautiful polar And I love that. That's 978 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: really nice. That was a beautiful conversation. I always love 979 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: meeting another kindred spirit of talking to strangers at the park. 980 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: I like that he doesn't record it, you know, I 981 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: feel like I like recording this. 982 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 3: But I do feel like if you know, in if 983 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 3: in how old am I twenty some? 984 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: If I if I'm like fifty five and the Internet 985 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: has been destroyed, I will continue to try to find 986 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: ways to do fun shit like this. 987 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 3: So who knows? Do you want to talk? What's your 988 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 3: what's your name? 989 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 2: Sir? I'm I guess, I guess shure, I'm guess. I guess. Yeah. 990 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: I was just gonna give you a fistbut the way 991 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 2: I greet people. 992 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: So what is what is this pamphlet? It says affinity groups. 993 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 10: It was in my hand when I wasn't paying attention 994 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 10: and I had a hamster on it. It's Full Extinction Rebellion, 995 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 10: which is a climate activist group that's extremely individual led. 996 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 10: It's not really much of an organization. It's like a 997 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 10: collective of lots of individuals. 998 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 3: And are you one of these individuals in this collective? 999 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: I mean vaguely, yeah, very vaguely. 1000 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 10: I think, like what a Thunberg is like the most 1001 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 10: famous of the individuals. 1002 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: So Greta Thunberg is in the extinction rebellion rebellion. Yeah, 1003 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: so tell me what is extinsion? Extinction rebellion. 1004 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 10: It is sort of just like a citizen led movement 1005 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 10: to try to push environmentalism very very hard in a 1006 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 10: sort of pressing way, and also to work outside of 1007 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 10: governmental structures which are generally not going to be supportive. 1008 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: Interesting, how does like, how does working outside of how 1009 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: does one work outside of governmental structures? 1010 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 10: A lot of it seems to involve bothering people and 1011 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 10: getting arrested? 1012 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 2: Cool? 1013 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: When it was the last When was the last time 1014 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: you bothered somebody and got arrested? 1015 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 7: Oh? 1016 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 2: God, uh twenty twenty you do? 1017 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, that was just like I think that was something 1018 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 10: everyone was doing back back in the day, like doing 1019 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 10: Black Lives Matter Corona times. It was just the thing 1020 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 10: to do bother someone ghetto rested, you know, and like 1021 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 10: the clubs aren't open, so you gotta do something. 1022 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, how long have you been? 1023 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: How long have you identified as an extinction rebellionist? 1024 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 2: Probably like only a month? Is it? Due you? 1025 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 10: I always see them at protests and I've like seen 1026 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 10: them online and stuff doing stuff, But it's like very 1027 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 10: easy to get into. You basically just like start going 1028 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 10: to groups, to the meetings, or you just like find 1029 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 10: some people and like sort of sign up. 1030 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: Cool. 1031 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 3: How did uh? Okay? 1032 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: So you've only been here for you've only considered yourself 1033 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: an extinction. Rebellion, rebel, rebel. I don't know why I 1034 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: I thought. I thought I had to add something to rebellion. 1035 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: It is part of it, yeah, rebel. 1036 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 2: One of these days I got to figure out like all. 1037 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 10: The pres and suffixes and various etymologies of the English language. 1038 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 2: So I can just make up whatever the words I want. 1039 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 2: But you can make up whatever words you want right now. 1040 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 2: You can't. 1041 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 7: Can't. 1042 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 2: You can't. 1043 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 10: You can't because they have their own rules. Like someone 1044 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 10: tried to pluralize moosse the other day. 1045 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: You just, what do you mean there's rules? 1046 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 6: You you just handed me a pamphlet about rebelling against 1047 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 6: the government. There's no you're I would assume that you're 1048 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 6: the most anti rule guy. 1049 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 3: What do you mean there's rules? What are you talking about? 1050 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 10: I guess there's there's organizational structures which we have control 1051 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 10: over instead of having control over us. Yes, so they 1052 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 10: are anarchistic organizational structures to our language. 1053 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: How is an I think if you're an anarchist, you 1054 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: should have intentionally horrible grammar. 1055 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 10: No, that's not I mean that can be what anarky 1056 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 10: is about to you. 1057 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 2: But that's not what it's supposed to be about. 1058 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: But how can anarchy be supposed But this isn't the 1059 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: whole point of anarchy that nothing is supposed to be 1060 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: about anything when we create a own realities. 1061 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 2: No, that's like nihilism. 1062 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 10: Anarchy is like a very complex and well thought out 1063 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 10: political movement that was buried after the eighteen ninety anti 1064 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 10: Anarchist rebellion because anarchists were assassinating political leaders like McKinley 1065 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 10: and the z Are of Russia. 1066 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: Wait, so uh, and the the assassination of political leaders 1067 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: was what led to the downfall of anarchy. 1068 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, because literally every world leader in the world got 1069 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 10: together in eighteen nine day and so have decided to 1070 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 10: make anarkizzy the one political philosophy they would never ever tolerate, 1071 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 10: and they sort of made it into like a swear world. 1072 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: But does an anarchy in But doesn't anarchy intentionally? Doesn't 1073 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: anarchy imply violence in some way? 1074 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 1075 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 10: Anarchies are very I mean, obviously there was some violence involved, 1076 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 10: taking out political leaders like Eugie Mannio in it, right, Yeah, 1077 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 10: it was like yeah, but in general it's a very 1078 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 10: anti war, anti oppression, anti state violence, fro woman pro 1079 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 10: environmentalist movement. You see, Like the closest thing the anarchy 1080 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 10: function today is in Rojava and Northeast Syria. Yeah, it's 1081 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 10: called democratic and federalism, and it's like very tied to 1082 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 10: women's rights and to uh environmentalism. They're like a very 1083 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 10: strong anti Isis force in that region, and that enabled 1084 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 10: them to create like a sort of pan ethnic group 1085 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 10: out of an original sort of Kodish struggle based group. 1086 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 10: They're like, they're the only country in the world where 1087 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 10: the government legally has to be half women. Whoa yeah, 1088 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 10: Assyria in Northeast Syria. Yeah, in Rojava, it's really an 1089 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 10: important place. They don't talk about it a lot here 1090 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 10: because he would like to think that Muslim people are 1091 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 10: misogynistic and that they don't want peace or democracy. But 1092 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 10: when you leave them to their own devices, you get 1093 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 10: the full political spectrum like everyone else, but you also 1094 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 10: get I think predominantly progressive people. 1095 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: Oh right, so let me all right, so what is 1096 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: your name again. Oh guess Arcuss? Who are you Arcus? Okay, 1097 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 1: I feel like August Arcus. 1098 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 10: Well that's that's who I am. Okay O guess Arcus. 1099 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 10: I guess no, it just Oucus. It just sounds like 1100 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 10: a guest when I say. 1101 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 6: Okay, Arcus, Arcus, Arcus Arcus, Well, okay, listen, Arcus. 1102 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 3: I'm curious about this. 1103 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: We've talked, We've spent a little bit of time talking 1104 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: about your beliefs and what you stand for. But what's 1105 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: the biography? Who are you? What are you doing? In 1106 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: New York? 1107 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 10: I teach wilderness skills and I feel like no one 1108 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 10: teaches it. H could to Cidy right, so fabits well 1109 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 10: maybe needed most. 1110 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 3: Whoa who do you teach wilderness skills to? 1111 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 10: Whoever wants to learn? I have an Instagram. It's my 1112 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 10: name and then my last name. The ttis spell. Your 1113 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 10: first name is also hard. Ye're hard to pronounce too? 1114 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 3: How do you spell? 1115 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 12: Name? 1116 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 10: Was Ao c U s Ao b O r I 1117 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,760 Speaker 10: and yeah, it's weird. 1118 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 2: How did you get into doing a wilderness survival? 1119 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 10: I started when I was fifth When I was thirteen, Yeah, 1120 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 10: and I just took like a program simil of the 1121 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 10: ones that I teach now and it got me like 1122 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 10: in the door, and then I just really delved into 1123 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 10: it and aside it was what I wanted to do. 1124 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 10: Cool full of I'm still of like an anarcho primitivest, 1125 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,479 Speaker 10: which is like a subsection of anarchy. It's deeply tied 1126 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 10: the idea that agriculture and civilization actually created and enforced 1127 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 10: the systems that we don't like, like dominance. Hierarchy is 1128 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 10: an authoritarianism, misogyny, bigotry, anti homophobia. 1129 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: I can ass you something like because I feel like 1130 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm I feel like both on an individual level and 1131 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: on a societal level, humanity is a fight between our 1132 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,439 Speaker 1: biological natural instincts. 1133 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: And our higher, more beautiful human. 1134 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 2: Aft and I one hundred percent false. 1135 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: And I think that uh, society in the individual is 1136 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: the attempt of reconciliation between higher human principles in conflict with. 1137 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 3: More our basic primitive. 1138 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, one hundred percent false. That concept came from foud. 1139 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 10: It was deeply, deeply racist and anti indigenous and Victorian 1140 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 10: are instinctive set of moality was designed to help us 1141 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 10: survive in the wilderness. Everything we think of as good 1142 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 10: and moral is actually an evolution is it? It reinforced 1143 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 10: by evolution right, Because to have healthy relationships in a 1144 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 10: beautiful community is to be able to survive in the forest, yes, 1145 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 10: which it is hard to do individually. To have healthy 1146 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 10: gender relationships is to be able to split work between 1147 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 10: two genders. Uh, and to allow you know, allowing for 1148 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 10: filled genders and not havingnorativity. Sure, everything I think intrinsic 1149 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 10: to us that makes this beautiful and human is very 1150 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 10: animalistic and natural and what what? 1151 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: But are we but we we have something though as 1152 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: human beings we have something new that's like like we 1153 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: got something that the squirrels don't. We have some higher 1154 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: consciousness that we're reconciling with in some way that creates 1155 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: broader spectrums of good and evil and whatnot. 1156 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 9: We have. 1157 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 10: A conscious mind is more part of our experience. But 1158 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 10: we have the same elements to our being as are 1159 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 10: though animals, especially like schools. Schools make complex decisions. Schools 1160 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 10: think months in advance. 1161 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 2: They do they are they really? Yeah? They? 1162 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 10: I mean why do they think they bury acorns? They 1163 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 10: know that those acorns are toxic to eat in the 1164 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 10: fall because they have too many tannins. If they bury 1165 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 10: them underground, the snow melt will wash the tans out 1166 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 10: and though something eat in the spring when there's not 1167 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 10: a lot of food. 1168 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 2: Otherwise they would just eat all. I don't know. 1169 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 1: I listen, listen, I feel like I mean like dog 1170 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: like hamsters. Right, you got a hamster on this pamphlet, 1171 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: like I do. I don't know if hamsters are thinking 1172 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: about you know, hamsters aren't like Ah, maybe in a 1173 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: year or two I'll go back to grad school, you 1174 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: know what I mean. 1175 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 10: Well, hamster's only live with like five years old, so 1176 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 10: they don't have to think that far ahead. That's true. 1177 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 10: Animals that live a long time think further ahead. Animals 1178 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 10: that have human life lifestyles often of human like types 1179 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 10: of intelligence, which we've value more and we value the 1180 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 10: skills they have more, but they're not inherently superior to 1181 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 10: the skills all. 1182 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,399 Speaker 2: The animals have. We just remind us of ourselves more. 1183 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 10: And that ties deeply into castism and racism and capitalism, 1184 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 10: because if you are an engineer, you're living a type 1185 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 10: of lifestyle. 1186 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 2: It's very different than a duck. 1187 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 10: If you're a farmer or a hunter gatherer, your lifestyle 1188 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 10: is not actually that different than a duck. No, so 1189 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 10: it's easy for someone to say, oh, you're more like 1190 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 10: an animal, so you're worst than med your skills don't. 1191 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 3: Know, No, no, no, no, no no, no, it's well, I'm hold on. 1192 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: Well, the idea of like humans are a combination of 1193 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: our like higher humanness and our animalness is is not. 1194 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: There's no quality. I don't put any qualitative judgments in it. Yeah, 1195 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I just feel like that that is 1196 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: one of our central conflicts as conscious beings. 1197 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 10: I mean, I feel like when you focused, when you 1198 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 10: don't unite your logic and your knowledge with your emotions 1199 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 10: and intuition and connection to nature and your uality, Yeah, 1200 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 10: then it makes it easier for you to fall astray 1201 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 10: because our mind's be able to conceive of falsehoods to 1202 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 10: an intensity and to a degree that although animals might 1203 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 10: not really do as much. 1204 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,919 Speaker 1: What have you ever, like in your personal life, found 1205 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: yourself slipped away into any falsehoods? 1206 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean it's pretty easy as a human 1207 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 10: to loan and misinformation and not question that. 1208 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 3: It's illogical. What was the last falsehood that you slipped into? 1209 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 2: God, I can't, I don't know. 1210 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 10: I only know the ones I slipped out of the 1211 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 10: ones I'm frobably slipping into new ones all the time. 1212 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: Do you feel how sure are you that you don't 1213 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: live within some sort of falsehood right now? 1214 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm fairly sure. 1215 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 10: I have a pretty decent idea of how the world works. 1216 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 10: But I'm sure there's something I believe that's incorrect. 1217 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: How do you feel like you gained a decent idea 1218 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 1: of how the world works? 1219 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 3: Is that even possible? 1220 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 2: I think so. I like a very rough in general. 1221 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 3: Why sure? 1222 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a question for you. 1223 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up? 1224 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 2: Why don't you never lick your eyeballs? 1225 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 4: Try? 1226 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 3: I don't like my yo. 1227 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: There's been times I've had like like I had an 1228 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend who licked my eye on one. 1229 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 3: I actually really liked it. 1230 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: Ex school friend not couldn't go. 1231 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 3: It didn't work out. 1232 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 2: But when she licked it or not, well yeah, current. 1233 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: When she liked it? No, yeah, yeah, I get what 1234 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: you're saying. Yeah, no, I didn't. I wasn't like, hey, 1235 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: I know we haven't talked in a while, but if 1236 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: you could you come lick my eyeball? 1237 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, no, it was old time to say yeah. Yeah. 1238 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 10: Sometimes when you don't get something out of the way 1239 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 10: into relationship, you need to try it afterwards. 1240 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: No, I feel like I feel like once you guys 1241 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: break up, eyeball licking is off the table. 1242 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 3: How's your dating life? Are you seeing anyone? 1243 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 2: Are you hopefully at some point? Okay? 1244 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm like a relationship. I'm a wife guy, smiling 1245 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,879 Speaker 10: wife guy, firing wife guy. Yeah, aspiring stay at home dad. 1246 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1247 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,439 Speaker 3: Are you, like, have you gone on any dates lately? 1248 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 3: Have you met anyone? 1249 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 4: Not? Look? 1250 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1251 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 10: Well I usually only gave people, I know, because I 1252 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 10: feel like your gool friend can finally be you blow 1253 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 10: and also your roommate and then like totially the post 1254 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 10: and you fuck. 1255 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 2: Who is a butte that you like? 1256 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: I I will say, I actually think dating people, you know, 1257 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: it's a double edged sort because I think, like like 1258 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 1: dating apps and whatnot, they've allowed you to extend outside 1259 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: your network to go on dates, so that like, you know, 1260 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: because like I don't know, Let's say you have like 1261 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: a coworker or a friend, or like somebody who's like 1262 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: already in your life. You express romantic interest in them, 1263 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: and it's not, uh, it's not it doesn't pan out. 1264 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: It's like it's it's like now a part of your 1265 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: existing life has been corroded in some way, shape or form. 1266 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: But dating apps is like, oh, if this doesn't work out, 1267 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: it's great because we have two completely separate. 1268 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: Lives, disposable individuals. 1269 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yes, it also was the double edged sword 1270 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: of it does make human it does. It does by 1271 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: nature make the process of people more more disposable. 1272 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I. 1273 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 10: Feel like if you're not in a place where you 1274 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 10: can have a mature relationship with you flanned that involves 1275 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,280 Speaker 10: an attempt at romance that doesn't work. You might also 1276 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,680 Speaker 10: not be in a place so you can have a 1277 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 10: mature romance with anyone. 1278 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 1279 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's about maturity. I don't know 1280 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: if I don't know if that's about maturity. I think 1281 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: it's about just like emotional, It's about like general emotion, 1282 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: you know. I think you can be like two mature 1283 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: people who are like, we cannot be around each other 1284 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: every single day because it will cause too much pain. 1285 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 1: I think I don't think that's necessarily I mature. 1286 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 10: Yeah, But then I feel like that's a little I 1287 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 10: feel like if you had that deep into the situation 1288 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 10: where you're like you want to be to gather and 1289 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 10: somehow can't and it's just like dreadful. Then I'm not 1290 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 10: sure that a dating app is gonna change that aspect 1291 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 10: of because then you just get I don't know, that's 1292 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 10: a niche, A niche, an unpleasant situation. I hope not 1293 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 10: to enter. 1294 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 3: What's your ultimate goal in life? 1295 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 10: I just want someone to lick my fucking eyeballs? Man, 1296 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 10: I want I want eyeballs to lick rick? 1297 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 2: Can you? 1298 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 3: I don't think you can lick your own eyeball? Is 1299 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 3: that possible? 1300 00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 2: Probably? 1301 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: I hope, y bro, you heard the star of that 1302 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: guy who got his ribs removed so he could lick 1303 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: his own eyeball. Well actually, wait, well, okay, you know 1304 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: what's crazy is if you can get your ribs removed 1305 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: to make it so that you can suck your own dick. 1306 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like certain cheek bones that you 1307 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: could get removed so you could lick your own eyeball. 1308 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 2: I guess you could remove the eyeball itself that. 1309 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, and then like like pop it out like 1310 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: Shakespeare's style with the skull, and then like liqu put 1311 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 1: it back. 1312 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be kind of cool. 1313 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 10: I don't think that guy did that. That was like 1314 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 10: a rock star. There's no fucking way that guy did that. 1315 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: Can I ask you something I'm curious based on your 1316 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: social and political ideologies, are you an optimist or a pessimist? 1317 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: A big optimist? 1318 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: I love that. 1319 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wonderful even in because people are you know, 1320 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 1: people are scared. Man with big beautiful Bill and AI 1321 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: and life and people, people are scared. 1322 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 8: You know. 1323 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 3: Are you optimistic? Yeah? 1324 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 2: It's like a poo abble. 1325 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 10: I think like the more you learn, the more depressed 1326 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 10: and tail you are the world is. And then at 1327 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 10: some point you just starts like going back again and 1328 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 10: you end up happy again. Yeah, you're like a happy 1329 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 10: like old wise monk, yeah, instead of like a depressed teenager. 1330 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we gotta take back. 1331 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 10: We gotta make woke this fun We gotta make we 1332 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 10: gotta make woke this funny. Like there's this great quote 1333 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 10: I heard by a guy talking about Confederate statues, like 1334 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,439 Speaker 10: we gotta make some anti racist statues, and we've gotta 1335 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 10: beat it with volume, just like holds of anti racist 1336 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 10: statues all over the South. 1337 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 3: What would your anti racist statue be? 1338 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,959 Speaker 10: I mean, I feel like my version of that would 1339 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 10: be like actually funny and good to be around woke people, okay, 1340 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 10: like cause I think humor is mostly based around like 1341 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 10: referencing people have heard before being really inappropriate and sexual 1342 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 10: and a little bit offensive and being charismatic and just 1343 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 10: so sounding and looking funny. And there's no reason that 1344 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 10: a super woke, non problematic person can't be great at that, 1345 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 10: And I actually think they should be better at it, 1346 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,439 Speaker 10: because if you're making fun of something that's wrong, that's 1347 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 10: also like inherently a lot because it's just sort of 1348 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 10: like based and dumb is like an absurdity to it 1349 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 10: that you're making fun of, and that's super humorous. Like 1350 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 10: we have sticks up of assis and we don't ever 1351 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 10: say anything funny, so no one likes us. But if 1352 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 10: we just like went off on like the misogynists in 1353 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 10: the Oasis and talk about how fucking stupid they were 1354 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 10: and how they were just like dumb idiots, and like 1355 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 10: we're funny and interesting about it, I think people would 1356 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 10: drive with it super hard. 1357 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 3: Do you have comedians that you like? 1358 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 2: I like a guy named Richard Acasta. 1359 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: I think I know it. He's a James a Caster. 1360 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: It's a different guy. 1361 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1362 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 10: Wait, maybe it is James Acasta. He's like a British 1363 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 10: guy with wet hair. 1364 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you do you like George Carlin? 1365 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,439 Speaker 10: I like George Colin too. Yeah, he's pretty good. Richard 1366 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 10: Aycaster is good because he's like kind of funny looking 1367 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 10: and he gets real mad and like he also just 1368 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,080 Speaker 10: talks about like really random shit, but it's always something nuts. 1369 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 10: It's always about like the British Museum should like stop 1370 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 10: stealing people's paintings, if you shouldn't like go to a 1371 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 10: club to shoot on the girlfriend. And also just like 1372 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 10: funny stuff, like his town is weird socco chants and 1373 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 10: like he lives in some random ass like village in 1374 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 10: England and it's like funny. 1375 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 2: And he has like enemies who are like teenage boys. 1376 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: Wait, I feel like I wanted to ask you more 1377 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: about your personal biography as a human being, and I 1378 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about it. 1379 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 2: What do you What do you do all day? Man? 1380 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 10: I like look for students and I loan stuff and 1381 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 10: I think about stuff, and I like plan. 1382 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time. 1383 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 10: Sitting and like flea planning, like talks and lessons I'm 1384 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 10: gonna give and how I'm gonna wad them, Yeah, because 1385 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 10: I would. 1386 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 2: With kids in the forest a lot. 1387 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, And that's like a recipe for danger and chaos. 1388 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 10: So you have to literally have everything like flee woaded, 1389 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 10: but also be saying it like at random spontaneous intervals 1390 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 10: in between stuff happening that you didn't expect to have 1391 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 10: any way to plan for. 1392 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: Oh hey, that's all. There's a parrot guy who's saying stuff. 1393 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: It's crazy parrot guy. 1394 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 10: He's gonna bite you. It'll be okay. He's a taste 1395 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 10: for human flesh. 1396 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 2: Guy. Terrible. 1397 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: Wait, crap, I'm trying to remember what I was gonna 1398 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: ask you. Oh, yes, I want to know this. I 1399 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,080 Speaker 1: want to know this. You seem to you think, you 1400 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: seem like a man. You think a lot. 1401 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 3: About uh uh. 1402 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: Philosophy and consciousness and all these things. Where do you 1403 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: believe we go when we die? 1404 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 3: Do you believe. 1405 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: Consciousness to seeds and it's the same. Do you believe 1406 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: there's an extra dimension in which our consciousness flows or 1407 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:23,439 Speaker 1: what do you think? 1408 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 1409 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 10: Man, I mean I feel like that's a very grain 1410 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 10: of salt question. 1411 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1412 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 10: For me, the only way I can really say is like, 1413 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 10: I feel like we go to join the ancestors and 1414 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 10: watch all over the future generations of living people. I 1415 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 10: feel like o body we give back to the land, 1416 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 10: and then it becomes the bodies of all children and 1417 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 10: great grandchildren, yeah, and of other living beings. 1418 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1419 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 10: And I feel like before we are borne, were sort 1420 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 10: of part of the universe in some logical or spiritual 1421 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 10: we're carbon and shit it at least, I mean I 1422 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 10: feel like, well, before we're born, in a sense, we 1423 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 10: are the universe. 1424 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1425 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 10: And and I think in a more postals that I 1426 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 10: think we were like a spirit I would define it 1427 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 10: as like a spuit. And so you sort of when 1428 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 10: you're born, remember that ship. And that's why babies are 1429 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 10: like sort of wise looking, and why they know how 1430 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 10: to swim, and why they like low and extremely fast 1431 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 10: and like seem to like be really like precognate and intuitive. 1432 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 2: And then they just sort of been really dumb. 1433 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, and the max dumbness hits to like age seven 1434 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 10: or so, and then they start to gain more of 1435 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 10: like a human intelligence. 1436 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 7: Bro. 1437 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: I like, I love that thought idea of like babies 1438 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: are secretly extremely wise, yeah, because they were just they 1439 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: just came from being the universe. 1440 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 3: The universe. 1441 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, you know what, It's cool right because 1442 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: I feel like the more, the most in touch with 1443 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: the universe you are is the when your presence, you know. 1444 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 1: And I feel like babies are so deeply present, yeah, 1445 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: and so deeply connected to just like yeah, the uh 1446 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean kind of like we were talking about with 1447 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,959 Speaker 1: the last guy, kind of the the the novelty of life, 1448 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, everything is so novel to them. 1449 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, That's why I love kids. 1450 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 10: One time I was with a kid and I saw 1451 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 10: him sit down on a log and he was like, 1452 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 10: this is the this is the first time I'm ever 1453 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 10: gonna sit. 1454 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 2: On a mossy log. And then he sat on it 1455 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 2: and it blew my fucking mind. 1456 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 10: I was like, wow, that was literally the first time 1457 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 10: he sat on a mossy log and I saw it. 1458 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: So you are an aspiring husband and stay at home 1459 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: dead Yeah, very okay. So are you looking so I 1460 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: has to stay home dad? Are you looking for like 1461 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,920 Speaker 1: like do you want to date? Like uh, like a 1462 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 1: like a rich powerful woman? 1463 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 2: Fuck? Yeah as hell? 1464 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, little auto like more confident like somehead's so like 1465 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,919 Speaker 10: still willing to have a couple of kids, Definitely that's sick. 1466 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 3: You ever, like, uh, you ever like take strolls down 1467 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 3: Wall Street and whatnot. 1468 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 10: I think those women might be a little I don't 1469 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 10: know something Sometimes women just like at as corrupted by 1470 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 10: shit as guys are somehow, and it seems. 1471 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Sort of weird. 1472 01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 10: But like I heard, I don't know this weird story 1473 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 10: that like doing the Russian Revolution, like the women in 1474 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 10: the Zar's family will like pro evolution, yeah, even though 1475 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 10: they were specifically like getting executed by the Revolutionarias Like, 1476 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 10: there's this idea called genealogy which actually comes from Java, 1477 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 10: which ties feminism misogyny very very closely to all forms 1478 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 10: of oppression and also two anarcho priminitivism and indigenous cultures. Sure, 1479 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,840 Speaker 10: anti third wave feminism and the idea of just feminity 1480 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,439 Speaker 10: in general is being a positive trait. 1481 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 2: Sure. 1482 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 10: I've also feel like our society sort of just takes 1483 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 10: ninety percent of the human experience so decides it's trust 1484 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 10: for goals. 1485 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 3: Well, like, what okay, give me I can can you? 1486 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Can you list? I want to know? 1487 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, lest give me three things that you feel 1488 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: like should not be just for girls? That you feel like, 1489 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: are our society conditioned to be just okay, like, okay, like, 1490 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: let's do it. 1491 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, parenthood, looking attractive and having emotions. 1492 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: I have to I, I honestly, I have to disagree 1493 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 1: that I think those are that conditioned for women, parenthood. 1494 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 10: I mean, I don't know, you think I was the 1495 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 10: last time you hold the phase patonal instincts, my paternal instincts. 1496 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, Okay, okay, I'll actually 1497 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: hand you that the people was the last. 1498 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 10: Time you wanted a random guy to you've never met 1499 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:34,919 Speaker 10: to look after your five year old daughter? 1500 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 2: Give me that. I'll give you that the last time 1501 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 2: he saw a. 1502 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 10: Guy my age call an eighteen year old girl cute 1503 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,920 Speaker 10: and assume he was just like talking about it as 1504 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 10: a kid and not as like a partner. 1505 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 1: Literally, I'll say, I'll say, I don't see, like, Okay, 1506 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, the whole looking attractive thing. Yeah, most it's true, 1507 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: like you know, cosmetic brands and whatever else of that 1508 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 1: stuff is yeah, marketed towards Yeah, I'll give you that. 1509 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 2: What's the third one? 1510 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 10: We're just having most emotions, having emotions, most emotions. 1511 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 3: Are the men are coming around on I think men 1512 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 3: are coming around on emotion. 1513 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 10: It's getting better. I think all of them getting better. Yeah, 1514 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 10: there's definitely a weird backlash going on with like the 1515 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 10: weird fucking I don't know, like glow guys, whites, fucking 1516 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 10: all white cloud. 1517 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 2: But like, I think most guys are getting I think. 1518 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 1: Like, like I generally feel as though, like, uh, like 1519 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: if you're like, like if you're a guy these days 1520 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and you have like a group of like dude friends, yeah, 1521 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,919 Speaker 1: I think most this is just like complete anecdotally, Yeah, 1522 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,959 Speaker 1: I feel this in my group of dude friends. But also, 1523 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,479 Speaker 1: you know, I think like younger generations too, like friends 1524 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: in high school and ship are willing to be like yo, 1525 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I love the homies. Yeah, willing to like tell their 1526 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: friends they love them, willing to like open up to 1527 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: their friends. 1528 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 4: You know. 1529 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 3: It's I think it's something that like men are willing 1530 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 3: to do with their friends. You know, it's coming. 1531 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 2: It's a little weird. 1532 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 10: Still, I feel like the fact that they seem to 1533 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 10: like guys seem just sort of be hiding how they feel, 1534 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 10: like what they really think A little bit, I think, 1535 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 10: so like the time I think a little. 1536 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 1: Bit gives it. I'll give it you prove to the 1537 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: second two the first two, but give me the third eye. 1538 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 10: They hide like quite a lot behind erevlence and jadedness 1539 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 10: and humor and like saying fucked up stuff they don't 1540 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 10: actually believe, and they also like sort of just a 1541 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 10: little bit not that serious, a little bit not that emotional, 1542 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 10: and then when they do open up, it's like like 1543 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 10: a little intense. It's like a little bit like, okay, 1544 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 10: you can, you can take a step back. 1545 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 2: It's it's fine. 1546 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 10: I know. 1547 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Don't we all don't we all mascar emotions in some 1548 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: way there's some sort of displacements personality or activity. 1549 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 2: A little bit, but IM sorry. 1550 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 1: We're humans are dynamic enough that you can be funny 1551 01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and say outlandish things and do whatever and also still 1552 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: have a deeply emotional. 1553 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 2: Definitely, I think so. I think you definitely can. 1554 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 10: I think it's just being done as a defense mechanism 1555 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 10: by guys and masculine people a lot a lot more 1556 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 10: than by women. And I think that it's why when 1557 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 10: a dude like is really like I love you bo 1558 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 10: like man, this is it's time I fly, it's like 1559 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 10: it feels really intense because it's like sort of sudden. 1560 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to put a gender to this. Looks 1561 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: so cool that now we're surrounded by beautiful life. 1562 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:14,919 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1563 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like, do you feel like I'm 1564 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: like I meet so many people nowadays who are like 1565 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: they talk in tiktoks, you know what I mean, Like 1566 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: they talk in and it's men and women and and 1567 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, like talking in memes or talking in tiktoks. 1568 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a huge Like that's a huge 1569 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: like I'm displacing myself from emotions thing. 1570 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 2: Do you do you agree with fucking weird? Really weird, 1571 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:39,919 Speaker 2: really weird? 1572 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1573 01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 2: I feel like you see that a little bit in 1574 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Japanese culture. 1575 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's what's what is it in Japanese? There's 1576 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: like the two face? You know if there's a word 1577 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 1: for this in Japanese culture. Fuck, somebody in the comments 1578 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: say it, but it's like one is like your your 1579 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: your outside face and then your inside face. 1580 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 3: Whoa you have ever heard of this? 1581 01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 2: I think so? 1582 01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,160 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1583 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't know the word exactly, but someone someone in 1584 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 1: the YouTube comments will be it, will say it's maybe 1585 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed talking to you man, have you have you? 1586 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Have you handed out a lot of these pamphlets? 1587 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 2: I just forgot I was holding that when I like 1588 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 2: went to fist pump. 1589 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, but there's the dudeis here like every day when 1590 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 10: it's like way too hot out and like the sunniest 1591 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 10: place imaginable, giving out fleet stickos and giving out pamphlets 1592 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 10: and like getting people to care about the the nature. 1593 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 10: They literally a part of that. They'll one hundred percent 1594 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 10: going to get fucked along with. 1595 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question that comes from I've 1596 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 1: been talking a little bit today. I talked to the 1597 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: last uh guest who is on this chair, about how 1598 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I have two wolves in my head? 1599 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 7: What I do? 1600 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 3: I have two wolves in my head. One wolf is uh. 1601 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 1: One wolf in my head loves life, very optimistic, loves 1602 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: the earth, loves humans. The other wolf in my head 1603 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 1: is like sees, you know, whatever climate change and whatnot, 1604 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: and goes, we had a good run. You know, why 1605 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: is humanity? Why is humanity in life so important that 1606 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: we have to save it? You know that wolf exists 1607 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,120 Speaker 1: in my head. And I ask you, as somebody who 1608 01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 1: cares about these things, what would you what would you 1609 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,439 Speaker 1: say to that wolf? 1610 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 3: And why should we care? 1611 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,880 Speaker 10: That story comes from a book called the Education of 1612 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:22,839 Speaker 10: Little Tree, and it was written by a uh. Former 1613 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 10: ku Klux Klan member turned antiwasis looking for redemption in 1614 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 10: the most weird black fac the way possible. 1615 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,560 Speaker 1: Sure, okay, but more give me more than that. I 1616 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 1: mean I philosophically, why should we care about life? 1617 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 10: I feel like that's that's both wolves at once being 1618 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 10: one wolf, maybe a coyote, I guess. Yeah, life is 1619 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 10: weird in messay and sometimes kind of fucked up, but 1620 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 10: it's still beautiful and still working forwards. And sometimes something 1621 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 10: you know fucked up with an ex clan member writing 1622 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 10: a book which pretends to be a Native American creates 1623 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,560 Speaker 10: a beautiful story that actual Native Americans really resonate with. 1624 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 3: I listen, I'm not Native American, but I like the 1625 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 3: toolves thing. It makes sense. 1626 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1627 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 1: Well anyway, I like life today, and today's all we got. Mmm, 1628 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: give me your name one more time? O Gus Arcis 1629 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Arcis if you want to plug anything you kind of 1630 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:20,839 Speaker 1: know you said you have an Instagram. 1631 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 2: My Instagram. 1632 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,960 Speaker 10: If you can understand the words I make with my mouth, 1633 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 10: it's Ao c U s ao b o l I 1634 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:29,520 Speaker 10: at Instagram. 1635 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 2: There's nothing fucking on it. 1636 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 10: There'll be pictures on it soon of us doing stuff 1637 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 10: in the forest and then you can come and go 1638 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 10: in the group chats, and then you can come out 1639 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 10: and play in the forest with us. 1640 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 3: Rock and roll. 1641 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 1: Helly, nice to talk to you, dude. I'll see around 1642 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: the universe. I'll see you, see you around the universe. 1643 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 3: Good luck. 1644 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 2: That guy was interesting. 1645 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 6: That was Uh. 1646 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 3: That was a cool conversation. 1647 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 12: Uh. 1648 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 3: I feel like, what did I learn from that? 1649 01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1650 01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have I don't what did 1651 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 1: you the eyeball looking somebody said, the eyeball looking stuff? 1652 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,560 Speaker 1: I learned about looking eyeball? I was if you have 1653 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: someone in your life who might be willing to lick 1654 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,840 Speaker 1: your eyeball, I recommend it. It's a fun, it's a 1655 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: nice it feels nice. Although I remember I remember after 1656 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,240 Speaker 1: someone looked my eyeball, I went on Google and I 1657 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: was asking Google about it, and they were like, you 1658 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. That can call that can spread diseases. 1659 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 1: But what does the internet know? Have a seat, Leana. 1660 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you, Leanna. What's up has life? 1661 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 11: Life is pretty good right now? 1662 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 2: Very good. 1663 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 13: This might be a downer from the last conversation, but 1664 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 13: I'm in the best relationship I've been in like my 1665 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 13: whole life. Yeah, and I've been in nothing but bad relationships. 1666 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 13: I don't know how to feel comfortable with getting the 1667 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 13: love that I'm getting, how to. 1668 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,720 Speaker 1: Feel comfortable getting the love that you're getting? Wow, And 1669 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 1: she's well, I guess I'm curious about. 1670 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 2: A few things. 1671 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,000 Speaker 1: In what way does that discomfort manifest in your physical actions? 1672 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,879 Speaker 13: And you know, yeah, just I'm just like very defensive, 1673 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 13: like I have a wall up from the past, sure 1674 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 13: that I don't know how to get. 1675 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: Rid of, like like like uh like whoever you're dating, right, 1676 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 1: they'll be like like what, They'll tell you they. 1677 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 2: Love you, and you're like, ah, no, I suck somewhat. Yeah, okay, okay, huh, 1678 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you have a real therapist? 1679 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 11: Not really? 1680 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 10: No? 1681 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,800 Speaker 11: Should I change the topic? 1682 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 10: No? 1683 01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,400 Speaker 1: No, No, you didn't do anything wrong. I'm just curious. 1684 01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm thinking about my thoughts on this situation. 1685 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean, how else does this manifest? Like, give me, 1686 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,479 Speaker 1: give me some examples, like how do you feel as 1687 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,000 Speaker 1: though you cannot accept. 1688 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 13: This love just because like I don't know how to 1689 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,800 Speaker 13: like trust just because I've adopted. 1690 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 3: To Oh, okay, you don't how to trust this person. 1691 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 11: That's like one of the things. 1692 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can only really give you my own lived 1693 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: experience and thoughts about trust. Yes, my own lived experience 1694 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: and thoughts about trust. Is like, Okay, so you're in 1695 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,880 Speaker 1: this relationship, right, and how long you've been with. 1696 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 2: This person just a few months? 1697 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:22,360 Speaker 3: Just a few months. 1698 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:27,600 Speaker 1: And I guess I would say in my own relationships 1699 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:32,960 Speaker 1: with trust is like in any kind of relationship, business, platonic, romantic, whatever, 1700 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: you kind of like audit yourself to be like, am 1701 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 1: I doing the best job I reasonably can within my efforts? 1702 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Am I having the best intentions that I reasonably can? 1703 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: And as long as I'm holding up my end of 1704 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: the deal. If this person decides to in some way, 1705 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 1: shape or form betray my trust or attempt to hurt 1706 01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,360 Speaker 1: me after I've held up my end of the deal, 1707 01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,599 Speaker 1: that doesn't bother me really, because I feel like that's, uh, 1708 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,880 Speaker 1: that's not really a reflection upon me. You know, I 1709 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,960 Speaker 1: don't control the evil uh that surrounds me. I only 1710 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: control a half of it. And and you kind of 1711 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,639 Speaker 1: do those things intuitively, and you don't focus so much 1712 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,560 Speaker 1: about what comes back. Of course you, of course you 1713 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 1: yearn of course you want, You'd be fucking lying. I'd 1714 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: be lying to myself. I said I didn't want anything back. 1715 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not the. 1716 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 1: Fucking Buddha, but like you, you have to at some point, 1717 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 1: except that what comes back is somewhat out of your control, 1718 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 1: and so the trust is less the trust. The trust 1719 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,640 Speaker 1: that you're swinging around is less of a trust in 1720 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: another person and more of a trust in yourself. That 1721 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:52,000 Speaker 1: you're approaching your life with as much uh goodwill as 1722 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: you possibly can, and that everything beyond that is is 1723 01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 1: beyond you, and you surrender to what's beyond you. 1724 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 3: Does that make any sense? Or is that insane rambles? 1725 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 11: That makes sense? 1726 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 2: Alright? Cool? 1727 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,679 Speaker 3: Okay, Shit, maybe I'm better a therapy than I thought. 1728 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 11: Maybe you're all all seeing gecko. 1729 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 3: I am a gecko. What's your name again? 1730 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 11: Lean? 1731 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm horrible at remembering names. That's okay, But I 1732 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,800 Speaker 1: feel like i'm I'm I get so ingrained in the 1733 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 1: conversations that I forget name. 1734 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 11: The name is the least of your worries. 1735 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,600 Speaker 3: I like that you have a Harley Davidson hat on. 1736 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,640 Speaker 13: I've been upstate in Hicksville and is where you're from. No, No, 1737 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,920 Speaker 13: that's where my girlfriend's from. 1738 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,760 Speaker 3: Okay, you said it's influenced you. 1739 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean I've just been there, and I'm from Jersey, 1740 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,720 Speaker 13: but I hang out here mostly, so it's definitely a 1741 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 13: lot different. Like it's quiet, everybody's like country, like really country. Yeah, 1742 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,640 Speaker 13: so I've I've been influenced. 1743 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 2: If you cann't tell yeah, oh yeah, you got the 1744 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 2: cameo pants, I. 1745 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,680 Speaker 11: Got the cameos, the cut off tea, like is it? 1746 01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like, tell me if I'm crazy, 1747 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 1: But I feel like it's country experiencing some kind of 1748 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 1: cultural shift where it used to be seen as like 1749 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 1: a very like like it was like a very it 1750 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: was like very conservative, and now it's like it's like 1751 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of being taken back. Like I'm seeing like 1752 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 1: Brooklyn like hipster people like wearing like hats and cowboy 1753 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 1: boots and ship I. 1754 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 13: Mean, I think a lot of people take from like 1755 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 13: the aesthetic, but when it when you're in like a 1756 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 13: very country area, it's very country conservative. 1757 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:32,879 Speaker 11: Sure, so I definitely see a lot like especially today. 1758 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 13: Because it's the fourth of July, a lot of people 1759 01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:40,760 Speaker 13: wearing cowboy boots, American flags, camo, but nothing further than that. 1760 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 2: Do you have any Fourth of July plans tonight? 1761 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:44,000 Speaker 10: No. 1762 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,840 Speaker 11: I wanted to see what was going on here. I 1763 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 11: thought there would be more events. 1764 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 3: Oh, it's an event every day. Look at all of 1765 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 3: all this stuff. 1766 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 11: That's true. I'm here every day mostly every day Jersey. 1767 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:58,960 Speaker 11: I live one stop from kind station. 1768 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, so I'm here a lot and this is kind 1769 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,800 Speaker 13: of just like everyday summer festivities, just a lot more 1770 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:07,799 Speaker 13: American flags. 1771 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 11: I thought there would be like more fun stuff like 1772 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 11: do this for Fourth of July? 1773 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 1: If okay, if you could visualize what your perfect Fourth 1774 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,639 Speaker 1: of July would be, how would that go down? 1775 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:22,560 Speaker 11: Sitting in a pool, eating ice cream and watching the fireworks. 1776 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I feel like you can find a place here to No, 1777 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 1: you definitely what it was here to do that. But 1778 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,680 Speaker 1: what you just described in Manhattan will cost at least 1779 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 1: three hundred dollars. 1780 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly. 1781 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to leave the city to do that. 1782 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 11: By me, there's a lot to do like that. But 1783 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 11: all my friends are here and they don't go to Jersey. 1784 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 3: Do you go to do you go to school here? 1785 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 12: No? 1786 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 11: I'm not in school. 1787 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 3: Okay. 1788 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,680 Speaker 11: I graduated high school and said, fuck it. 1789 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool. What do you have? What do 1790 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 2: you want to do with your life? 1791 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 11: I have no clue. 1792 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 1: Do you have, like inklings of anything that is exciting 1793 01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 1: to you in any way, shape or form, even even minusculey. 1794 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,719 Speaker 11: Anything art related? 1795 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,839 Speaker 2: Really, that's cool? You do you do your own tattoos? 1796 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 12: No? 1797 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 11: These are just on the fly. I've gotten most of them, 1798 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 11: like impulsively. 1799 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,440 Speaker 3: Who's your favorite artist. 1800 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 9: Prior to this? Girl? 1801 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 13: Iris tat that's where I got this one from the 1802 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 13: most recent one. It's from Coraline. But she was really 1803 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:21,840 Speaker 13: sweet and I love a lot of her work that 1804 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 13: she like posts about. 1805 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,720 Speaker 1: Really nice, really nice. Yeah, okay, so you want to 1806 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: be in a pool watching the fire? By the way, 1807 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,560 Speaker 1: I just sorry. I know this is something to do 1808 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,920 Speaker 1: with our conversation. But at the very beginning of sitting down, 1809 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 1: I said to myself that I would be able to 1810 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 1: ignore how hot it was by being so engrossed in 1811 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,920 Speaker 1: the conversations that I would forget the temperature. And it's 1812 01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 1: actually been working. I thought it wasn't gonna work. I 1813 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: thought I'd be sweating my my ass. 1814 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:48,400 Speaker 11: It's not working for me. 1815 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,519 Speaker 3: I feel the heat, my haw's my is am I 1816 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:51,920 Speaker 3: dripping on the paint at all. 1817 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,320 Speaker 11: No, you've just been touching your beard. So that's where 1818 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 11: it's gone. 1819 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:59,599 Speaker 2: I have been touching my beard. Yeah, is there someone 1820 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:00,439 Speaker 2: has a phone. 1821 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:01,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, he's right there. 1822 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Oh man, I love the one dollar water guy man 1823 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 1: here right. You know what you know what's crazy is 1824 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 1: uh people talk about inflation. 1825 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 12: You know. 1826 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe I talked about this on the 1827 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 1: podcast before, but people talk about inflation, right right. I 1828 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 1: feel like no matter how much inflation goes, the dollar 1829 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 1: water Guy will always still like that's his brand forever. 1830 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna take about it's gonna take another one hundred 1831 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,000 Speaker 1: years for the dollar water Guy to raise his prices. 1832 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,439 Speaker 11: And it'll go to one twenty five, it'll go to 1833 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 11: it'll go it'll. 1834 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 3: Have to go to two. 1835 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 2: Right. 1836 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I feel like in a hundred I feel like 1837 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 1: Americans we gotta get rid of coins. 1838 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 3: Our coins are just not worth anything. 1839 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 11: That's true. 1840 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 13: I mean I work at a very like small little 1841 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,559 Speaker 13: town like bagel shop, and a lot of the older 1842 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 13: people have exact change. Really, so maybe in major cities 1843 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 13: like this, coins should go. But in very small towns, yeah, 1844 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 13: coins just never cease to exist. 1845 01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,639 Speaker 2: Get rid of the coins, but bring back the dollar coin. 1846 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:00,679 Speaker 2: I love a dollar coin. 1847 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 11: I feel like when I have a dollar coin, I 1848 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,479 Speaker 11: just never use it. I just look at it. Yeah, 1849 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 11: it's too special. Yeah, somehow I have none left. 1850 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 3: I feel horrible, and I'm gonna ask your name. 1851 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 11: A third Leanna think like Brianna, but with an L. 1852 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 3: You know it's so annoying, you know, it's so annoying 1853 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 3: to me. Is I feel like I can? 1854 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:19,000 Speaker 2: I can? 1855 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 1: I can, like, like like in that moment when I 1856 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 1: forgot your name, It's like you could quiz me on 1857 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 1: on on your life, as as the information you've told me, 1858 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 1: and I think I would get ninety nine percent of 1859 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 1: it correct except the name. 1860 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 3: That's just how my brain works. I got it. 1861 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 1: I know that, uh, I mean I know, yeah, what 1862 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: you were talking about with your girlfriend. I know you 1863 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,720 Speaker 1: live in Jersey. I know that, uh, you work in 1864 01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 1: a small town. Yes, I know that you're not in 1865 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,720 Speaker 1: school right now. I know you have friends who live 1866 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 1: in the city. But I would have I would have 1867 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:50,479 Speaker 1: not remembered the name. 1868 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 3: Is that bad? No, do you think I'm gonna am? 1869 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 13: I I feel like knowing my life is definitely a 1870 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,920 Speaker 13: lot more important to me than knowing my name. 1871 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, okay, good, the least of my worries. 1872 01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 11: If you know me, you know me, if you know 1873 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 11: my name, it's whatever, Leana. 1874 01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,560 Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the 1875 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,600 Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go, not really. 1876 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 11: Other than have a good summer and happy forth, Hags. 1877 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,720 Speaker 1: I'll see you around the university, and I thank you 1878 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 1: very much for talking to a gecko. Yeah, there's a 1879 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 1: lot of really, I don't know if I don't know 1880 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 1: how much background noise you'll be able to hear on 1881 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 1: this podcast, but there's a lot of really nice music 1882 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,599 Speaker 1: and happenings about. 1883 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 3: It's nice. 1884 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,160 Speaker 2: What's your name, man, I'm Sonjay Sanjay. 1885 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. I like your shirt. Your shirt 1886 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 1: says lol and then under it it says love of laughter. 1887 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1888 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up, Sonjay? How's life good? 1889 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,639 Speaker 4: Not much, it's been it's been okay. 1890 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,040 Speaker 2: How about you? Why only okay? 1891 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's been like mundane, but like in like 1892 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 1: a good way, you know, Yeah, mundane life contains a 1893 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 1: lot of joy in it. What tell me about like, 1894 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:01,760 Speaker 1: what do you do every day? 1895 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a full time student and then I 1896 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 6: do a lot of like stand up, so like I 1897 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,559 Speaker 6: usually just like go to class, then like write some jokes, 1898 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 6: go to an open mic, and then like oh you 1899 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 6: your stand up. 1900 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,479 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, very cool, Yeah, very cool. 1901 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:17,560 Speaker 2: How's this? 1902 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 3: How's the New York stand up scene treating you? 1903 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 6: It's okay, it's it's really cool. I think it's like 1904 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,439 Speaker 6: a lot of fun. But it's also like there's so 1905 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 6: many comics, you know. Yeah, so also trying to like 1906 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 6: pivot into like content and stuff like that. But cool, 1907 01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 6: like every other like that's my original idea. Yeah, let 1908 01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 6: me do content. What's your what's your dream? 1909 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 4: I would like to be an SNL cast member. 1910 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:39,160 Speaker 3: That's my dream? 1911 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 4: Really? 1912 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1913 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1914 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 2: How old are you? Can ask? 1915 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,599 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty? Yeah, by the time. 1916 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:49,000 Speaker 1: You, I think SNL is kind of dead, isn't it. 1917 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's has faltered. Yeah, it's not like the 1918 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:56,320 Speaker 1: every Man show it used to be. For sure. I'm 1919 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 1: gonna well, hold on, can I can? I? All right, 1920 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell it very douchey story. Okay, okay, And 1921 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 1: this is why I think I might get some heat 1922 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 1: for this, but it's fine. I think wanting to be 1923 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 1: an SNL cast but only because Sanjay. 1924 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, only because I I I want I remember my name? 1925 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so uh two years ago, like the Internet 1926 01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 1: is so much more powerful than. 1927 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live. 1928 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that makes sense, but so much more 1929 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,040 Speaker 3: powerful ship Like like fucking Shane Gillis man. 1930 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 1: You know, he like came back like when he first 1931 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,000 Speaker 1: when he first got fired from Saturday Live. Uh, everyone 1932 01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,120 Speaker 1: was like, this is gonna be better for his career, 1933 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 1: and I didn't believe. I was like, no, he kind 1934 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,680 Speaker 1: of got fucked. And then now now that everyone was right, 1935 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,040 Speaker 1: it was better for his career. He's like as any 1936 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:46,679 Speaker 1: cast member. Yeah, and he's hosting and so, uh. 1937 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,880 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna name any names. 1938 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,760 Speaker 1: And this is not in any way, shape orform reflective 1939 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:56,639 Speaker 1: of this performer themselves. But it's just about like SNL 1940 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 1: is and it's it's more reflective of SNL as an institution. Okay, 1941 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name this performance name. They're very funny, 1942 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: but again, it's about the institution out the former. Two 1943 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:10,719 Speaker 1: years ago, I was in England doing a show Therapy Gecko, 1944 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,360 Speaker 1: and you know at the time, you know, I was 1945 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,560 Speaker 1: going viral on TikTok or whatever, and I had a 1946 01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 1: sold out show at this comedy club in England And 1947 01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:24,439 Speaker 1: the next night after my show, there was this guy 1948 01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 1: headlining who at the time was an SNL cast member, 1949 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 1: And at my show, they're putting flyers for his show 1950 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,719 Speaker 1: on the seats and I was looking at the flyers 1951 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, dude. 1952 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,720 Speaker 2: My show was sold out. Geo Trumps, I'm selling more 1953 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 2: to don't. 1954 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how it would go nowadays, but at 1955 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,120 Speaker 1: least at that time, it's like, Damn, I'm selling more 1956 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,400 Speaker 1: tickets than somebody who was on Saturday Night Live off 1957 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,360 Speaker 1: of TikTok and Instagram and YouTube and whatnot. 1958 01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:00,600 Speaker 6: Dude, Gecko Gecko Trump's Lauren Michaels right here, Just no, 1959 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:01,680 Speaker 6: it does nothing to do with Dad. 1960 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, I don't know, Like you're the 1961 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 1: goal for you is more, Yeah, you'll find more success 1962 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 1: on like YouTube and. 1963 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I want to be a comedian. I also 1964 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 6: want to like create a TV show. Those are two 1965 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 6: big things. 1966 01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 3: But even what the fuck is a TV show? Ye, 1967 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 3: it's a TV show. 1968 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 2: I think it could be. 1969 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 1: Well, it knows, it's it's you know, it's I mean, 1970 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,800 Speaker 1: it's a people. Nobody watches TV. 1971 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1972 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 6: I just watch family guy clip by clip that's my 1973 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 6: TV on TikTok's but you watch it on TikTok. 1974 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know. 1975 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like the old guard of 1976 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,600 Speaker 1: like I want to be on SNL or have a 1977 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 1: TV show. It's like all that shit is dead, dude. 1978 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 6: It's like a double ed story because it's like so 1979 01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,280 Speaker 6: many people. It's like anybody can do it, but now 1980 01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 6: so many more people are doing it. 1981 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 2: It's good. 1982 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great. 1983 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,640 Speaker 6: They democratize the media answers. Yeah, I mean I think 1984 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 6: that's always something I've always wondered. I'm like, how many 1985 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,320 Speaker 6: people you think were more talented than like a Dave 1986 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 6: Chappelle or like you know, like a Chris Rock or 1987 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 6: like you know, like a c K. But there's just 1988 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 6: never attempt or like never got seen in the right 1989 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 6: room or whatever. Well, I mean, yeah, bro, that's how 1990 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,280 Speaker 6: it goes or I mean comedy. But also, like any 1991 01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 6: kind of art, it's less about art and more about 1992 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:08,680 Speaker 6: like it's it's a combination of like good taste and 1993 01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,600 Speaker 6: talent and marketing opportunities and luck yeah, it's like a 1994 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:13,760 Speaker 6: third of each of those things. 1995 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 4: It's kind of like like do you. 1996 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:16,760 Speaker 3: Watch the NBA. 1997 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 6: No, Okay, there's like a story of like one of 1998 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:22,040 Speaker 6: like this European basketball player who was like like head 1999 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,599 Speaker 6: and shoulders above the rest would have like a forty 2000 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,000 Speaker 6: point trouble double at halftime in Europe and they wanted 2001 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,280 Speaker 6: to come to the NBA and they said he'd be 2002 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:27,800 Speaker 6: better than. 2003 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,200 Speaker 4: Like Jordan and like all these guys. 2004 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 6: But like he couldn't come for ten years because of 2005 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 6: his visa and by the time he finally came, he 2006 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 6: was like old so like and he was still like 2007 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 6: really good. I think he uh, I forgot. It's like 2008 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 6: a Sabonus something. But like the question is like how 2009 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,760 Speaker 6: like you know, like how many people are there like 2010 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 6: that where they just like never made it to the 2011 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 6: NBA because it's some like miscellaneous reason. But we're like 2012 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,760 Speaker 6: more talented than anybody there. 2013 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2014 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 1: Well, comedy is a little weird because it's the talent 2015 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 1: is all subjective, yeah, you know, and people different people 2016 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 1: are kind of four different audiences and yeah, well. 2017 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 6: I think it's like that about art though too, Like 2018 01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,559 Speaker 6: I don't think art's about like talent. I think it's 2019 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 6: about moment. Like I think anyone can shine in their moment, you. 2020 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 3: Know, yeah. 2021 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's about moment and momentum is also about literally 2022 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:07,720 Speaker 1: about about moments. 2023 01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,639 Speaker 6: Like there's moments where Leonard Dicapro will be the worst 2024 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,559 Speaker 6: actor in the world. There's moments where some guy from 2025 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,880 Speaker 6: like getting a BFA could it could be like more 2026 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 6: the most talented act just in that specific moment, right, yeah, random, 2027 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 6: Like it all just clicks that it just comes together. 2028 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 3: Are you having fun in life? 2029 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2030 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. 2031 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 3: I think I'm having fun. I think like staying busy 2032 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 3: is like the most fun that I have. 2033 01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you don't stay busy, you'll start to 2034 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 1: ask questions you were never meant. 2035 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 3: You got to hear your own voice. 2036 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,360 Speaker 6: That's the that's the scariest Uh, that's the scariest medium. 2037 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,320 Speaker 2: Well, shit, Sonjay, it was good talking to you. 2038 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 4: Great talking to you too. 2039 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 3: You want to say to the people of the computer 2040 01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:39,040 Speaker 3: before we go? 2041 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 6: Uh, you guys should follow me on my stand up 2042 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,680 Speaker 6: comedy account. It's called Sunjay does Stand Up s A. 2043 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,880 Speaker 6: N j Y Does Stand Up Beautiful. Yeah, I'm looking 2044 01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 6: forward to seeing you around the universe. I'm looking forward 2045 01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 6: to you selling more tickets than me when I got 2046 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:55,800 Speaker 6: on SNL. 2047 01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2048 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,040 Speaker 3: Great to talk to you man. Hello, there, have a seat. 2049 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:05,720 Speaker 3: What is what is your name? I'm Rachel, Rachel, Nice 2050 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,920 Speaker 3: to meet you. What's up has life? 2051 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 2: What's going on? 2052 01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 9: So yesterday I learned that my friend is a kleptomania. 2053 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh interesting for those who don't know what that is. 2054 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 1: And I think I know what a kleptomaniac is. Somebody 2055 01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,799 Speaker 1: who is addicted to stealing. 2056 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,760 Speaker 12: Yeah, he's banned from Canada apparently, which sucks because I 2057 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 12: live in Canada. But yeah, he just like I've been 2058 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:33,640 Speaker 12: friends with him for a couple of weeks and he 2059 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:34,200 Speaker 12: just told me. 2060 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 9: That he likes to steal things? 2061 01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 3: What kind of things? 2062 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:42,240 Speaker 12: Really random things like caution tape and just like little knickknacks, 2063 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,360 Speaker 12: but nothing that valuable. 2064 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:45,800 Speaker 2: Sure, but he gets off on it. 2065 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 3: How long have you been friends with this guy? 2066 01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:47,960 Speaker 9: Three weeks? 2067 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:48,559 Speaker 2: Three weeks? 2068 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 3: How'd you guys meet? 2069 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 9: We met in front of the comedy shop. 2070 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,280 Speaker 2: What's what's the comedy shop. 2071 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 9: On Bleeker Street? 2072 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:56,720 Speaker 7: Oh? 2073 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,120 Speaker 3: Oh right, I didn't know there was a Is that 2074 01:27:59,160 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 3: a new comedy club? 2075 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 9: I'm not sure. I've only been here for a little while. 2076 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so you met a friend outside of a comedy 2077 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,480 Speaker 1: shop and then when he told you he was a kleptomaniac. 2078 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,799 Speaker 3: Did that make you look at him differently? 2079 01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 9: I got a little scared. I'm like, do I want 2080 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 9: to invite this guy over right? Or should I? Should 2081 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,200 Speaker 9: he be just like an outside friend? 2082 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 1: Has he stolen anything from you in the time that 2083 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,680 Speaker 1: you've not that I know of? But I guess it 2084 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,719 Speaker 1: would be I guess from from the way you've described 2085 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 1: this guy, it sounds like if he were to steal 2086 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:26,519 Speaker 1: things from you, it would be things you wouldn't even 2087 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 1: notice were gone. 2088 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,320 Speaker 9: Like, yeah, it'd be like my floss. 2089 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 3: I was literally going to say floss. 2090 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, my gumbs would get so bad I wouldn't know why. 2091 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any Okay, do you own anything 2092 01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,400 Speaker 1: that you think is in that rung of like's not 2093 01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 1: importance but is important to. 2094 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 9: You, like that I would notice is gone, or that 2095 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 9: I would have well yeah. 2096 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, things that like are kind of objectively seen is 2097 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,639 Speaker 1: not important, but that you would find important. 2098 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,679 Speaker 2: My cheese greater Ooh, that's a great answer. 2099 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So if this guy stole your cheese greater friendship 2100 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 1: over well, like I would know how many. Okay, let 2101 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 1: me ask you this, all right, so you've been friends 2102 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,160 Speaker 1: with this guy for three weeks? Yea, although how many 2103 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:05,680 Speaker 1: How often have you hung out with him in those 2104 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 1: three weeks? 2105 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,160 Speaker 9: Well, I've seen him three times or four times? 2106 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 2: Maybe? Okay. 2107 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 9: We went to do improv together, which was fun? 2108 01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 3: How fast? How fast? 2109 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: Until because I gotta say, like, like, he's your friend? Like, 2110 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 1: like how that was a fast decoration? 2111 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:22,760 Speaker 9: You know? 2112 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,200 Speaker 3: How how fast I want to become friends? 2113 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,080 Speaker 9: People normally say acquaintance? 2114 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, but I just like skip over that. I like, 2115 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:34,599 Speaker 12: I like that, Like we're friends now, Like you can 2116 01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,439 Speaker 12: come over if you want, I'll make you tea. 2117 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,640 Speaker 1: I feel like you feel like we like this this 2118 01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,880 Speaker 1: was enough interaction for us to be labeled friends? 2119 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,920 Speaker 12: Probably not, the more I think about it, I don't 2120 01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 12: think so either, Like what does it take to be friends? 2121 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 9: Like what do you think? 2122 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 3: I feel like? If you and I. 2123 01:29:55,040 --> 01:30:01,439 Speaker 1: Inhabited the same space regularly O for a somewhat extended 2124 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 1: period of time, and throughout that period of time had 2125 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,320 Speaker 1: extended amounts of conversations or you know, hung out either 2126 01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,400 Speaker 1: in a group or as one on one, we would 2127 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:12,960 Speaker 1: then develop a friendship. 2128 01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:13,560 Speaker 2: But this is not. 2129 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,680 Speaker 1: I don't think long enough for us to so I 2130 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,720 Speaker 1: have to come back become friends, so you have to 2131 01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,840 Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, I guess in order for us to 2132 01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:24,920 Speaker 1: be friends, for us to be friends. Although actually I'll say, actually, 2133 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,760 Speaker 1: you know what the guy at the very beginning, who 2134 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,560 Speaker 1: like I saw him over there and he had like 2135 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 1: the uh, the table, the table. If I saw him again, 2136 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,280 Speaker 1: I would be like, Yo, that's my boy. Although if 2137 01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,760 Speaker 1: I saw you here at this park again. 2138 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,160 Speaker 9: Probably wouldn't recognize me because I look. 2139 01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 3: Like maybe maybe I would. It's like i'd be like, hey, yo, 2140 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:48,080 Speaker 3: I remember you. We talked. 2141 01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,880 Speaker 2: What's your name? I still actually don't know your name. 2142 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 2: What's your name, Rachel? Rachel? 2143 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 9: What's your name? 2144 01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 2: Lyle? Lyle? 2145 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,799 Speaker 3: So are you gonna continue to be friends with this person? 2146 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,599 Speaker 12: I waited a little too long, so probably like it's 2147 01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,040 Speaker 12: gonna be a distant friend, like I'll go do improv 2148 01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:09,960 Speaker 12: or if we're in a group setting, but he's not. 2149 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 12: He's not getting like an invite over for like a 2150 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,919 Speaker 12: dinner party type situation. 2151 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,880 Speaker 3: So are you a comedian? No, what were you doing 2152 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:19,920 Speaker 3: outside of a comedy club? 2153 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,439 Speaker 12: So my friend's on Love Island and your friend on 2154 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,800 Speaker 12: Love Island and I don't have At the time, I 2155 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,680 Speaker 12: didn't know that my roommate had Peacock, which is a 2156 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,080 Speaker 12: streaming service that Love Island's on. Yeah, so I just 2157 01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,080 Speaker 12: left a date and I was walking somewhere else to 2158 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,519 Speaker 12: take the subway home, and I pass by and they 2159 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,639 Speaker 12: have a big screen every night showing Love Island. 2160 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,559 Speaker 3: Who's your friend that's on Love Island? 2161 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:46,960 Speaker 9: Elon? 2162 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:53,120 Speaker 2: I don't watch Love Island, Ela Elon, elon? Yeah, what 2163 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:53,840 Speaker 2: does she look like? 2164 01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:54,080 Speaker 9: He? 2165 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 10: Oh? 2166 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:55,640 Speaker 3: What does he look like? 2167 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 9: Jewish looking? He's got a fro? 2168 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2169 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:02,559 Speaker 3: Are you also Jewish? 2170 01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,320 Speaker 9: I'm also Jewish? Well what are you doing for shab butt? 2171 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 3: What am I doing for Shabbat? 2172 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 1: Yes, well I don't. I don't really do stuff for Shabbat. 2173 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,719 Speaker 1: I just like, what are you doing for Shabbat? 2174 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 9: I just got invited like an hour ago to a rooftop, 2175 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 9: but really, where you want to come? 2176 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:20,559 Speaker 2: Maybe? 2177 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:20,840 Speaker 10: Yeah? 2178 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 2: Where where is it? 2179 01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,200 Speaker 12: It's a so it's at this guy's apartment and it 2180 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,759 Speaker 12: has a really good view of the Williamsburg Bridge. 2181 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,559 Speaker 1: Wait, actually I actually kind of do what plus one 2182 01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,479 Speaker 1: hund Okay, I'm actually kind of down. 2183 01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 9: I think that'd be awesome. 2184 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 3: It's Williamsburg. Okay, Well we'll we'll talk. 2185 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:41,479 Speaker 9: We can talk after I just don't want to peep 2186 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:41,920 Speaker 9: the address. 2187 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,960 Speaker 1: We can talk after, okay. So uh for really, what 2188 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 1: was the theme of your abot mitzvah? 2189 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:47,240 Speaker 6: Uh? 2190 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 12: Mine was like, you know, I'm not like the other 2191 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,920 Speaker 12: Jewish girls. I didn't want the big party, so I 2192 01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 12: just had like three limos, you know, really casual and. 2193 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,639 Speaker 2: Yuah yo, I know exactly what your house looks like? Really? 2194 01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2195 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel like just by you saying that I know 2196 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,519 Speaker 1: exactly what the interior of your house looks like. 2197 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:08,720 Speaker 9: Okay, tell me about it. 2198 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,120 Speaker 3: Uh, I can't like visually describe it. I can't like 2199 01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:12,600 Speaker 3: describe it. 2200 01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,439 Speaker 9: Are you just trying to come see my house? 2201 01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:15,120 Speaker 10: No? 2202 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm just not not like no, like the house you 2203 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,720 Speaker 1: grew up in. I assume did you did you grow 2204 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:20,920 Speaker 1: up in a Jewish neighborhood? 2205 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 4: I did? 2206 01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:22,240 Speaker 9: But are we talking like? 2207 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,920 Speaker 12: I lived in one house until I was five and 2208 01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:27,680 Speaker 12: then another one from like five on? So which one 2209 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:28,479 Speaker 12: we talk about here? 2210 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 3: I guess the five on one? 2211 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:30,960 Speaker 9: Goode? 2212 01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,480 Speaker 3: You actually three limosts? 2213 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:32,840 Speaker 7: I did? 2214 01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:33,160 Speaker 12: Well? 2215 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:34,600 Speaker 3: Well, tell me more about your butt mets for what? 2216 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:35,360 Speaker 11: So going on? 2217 01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,320 Speaker 12: It was kind of interesting because at the time, like 2218 01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,760 Speaker 12: I could only be in one limo. You can't put 2219 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:41,719 Speaker 12: me in all limos. 2220 01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,200 Speaker 9: So you knew the girls and the people in my 2221 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,240 Speaker 9: limo were my fucking favorite people. 2222 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:47,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, did that make the people in the other 2223 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:48,639 Speaker 3: limos feel bad? 2224 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,679 Speaker 9: I feel like they were a little dumb because they're 2225 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,280 Speaker 9: like twelve. 2226 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,040 Speaker 2: Okay, so they but like maybe. 2227 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:55,760 Speaker 1: The Ember one, you invited at least somebody that you 2228 01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,839 Speaker 1: liked or did you have any like forced invites? 2229 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 12: No, no, four stinvites. No, it was it was only 2230 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 12: forty five people. So it was all people that I 2231 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 12: liked or that were more of my acquaintances. But my 2232 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:09,960 Speaker 12: core people were in my limo. 2233 01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,599 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, do you do a lot of like stuff 2234 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 2: for the Jewish holidays? No at me either, although I'll 2235 01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,920 Speaker 2: say except tonight for but I actually. 2236 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,720 Speaker 3: I am in for tonight for spot. It sounds fun. 2237 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,120 Speaker 9: But you got like, are you gonna keep? You gonna change? 2238 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:27,919 Speaker 9: Are you gonna put on a keepa. 2239 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2240 01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:30,840 Speaker 9: But keep keep the fit. 2241 01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:32,600 Speaker 2: I got fit on this. 2242 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 9: We can get you a big keeper. 2243 01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,519 Speaker 3: Okay, I know I find a big enough keeper. I'd 2244 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 3: be dawn. 2245 01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 2: But well, I was gonna say, uh, do you I 2246 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,519 Speaker 2: don't they don't do? Do do women do to fill in? 2247 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:46,320 Speaker 10: No? 2248 01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,280 Speaker 1: Because I'm always getting clocked by uh, like if I'm 2249 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 1: walking around Williamsburg, Like I always get clocked by the 2250 01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:52,719 Speaker 1: tafilling dudes. 2251 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:54,880 Speaker 2: Do you do you? 2252 01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,560 Speaker 3: I guess? Do you know what I'm talking about? Like 2253 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,200 Speaker 3: when you walk around h Williamsburg. 2254 01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 6: Like if you're a guy and you look Jewish enough, 2255 01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,840 Speaker 6: like like an orthodox Jewish guy will. 2256 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,000 Speaker 3: Come up to you and be like, hey, have you 2257 01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:07,759 Speaker 3: prayed today? 2258 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 9: I mean someone once stopped me on the street and 2259 01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,400 Speaker 9: gave me candles? Is that what it feels like? 2260 01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that. Yeah. 2261 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 3: Do they do they do they ask you if you 2262 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:15,719 Speaker 3: were Jewish? 2263 01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 9: Yeah? 2264 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? How do they? How do they do? 2265 01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,719 Speaker 9: It? Can smell us? I smell like a filter fish? 2266 01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:22,200 Speaker 2: Could you? 2267 01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:23,880 Speaker 3: Could you tell that I'm Jewish? 2268 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,800 Speaker 12: Like I I assumed, but I didn't want to like 2269 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,120 Speaker 12: assume wrong, so I just didn't say anything. 2270 01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 1: He assume I was Jewish before I said anything? Yeah, 2271 01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,599 Speaker 1: what what made you feel that way? 2272 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 2: You're just like super weird, you know I I I 2273 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:41,680 Speaker 2: appreciate that. 2274 01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,080 Speaker 9: I say that, Like I'm also super weird. 2275 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:48,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so what is super weird about you? 2276 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:50,160 Speaker 2: Wow? 2277 01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,160 Speaker 9: Trying to think about the difference between weird and cool. 2278 01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 3: You don't have to think about that. You can just 2279 01:35:59,080 --> 01:35:59,920 Speaker 3: tell that whatever you. 2280 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:02,160 Speaker 2: Oh. 2281 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,920 Speaker 12: When I match with someone on a dating app and 2282 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,880 Speaker 12: get to know them, my first thing is I suggest 2283 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:09,280 Speaker 12: a call. 2284 01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:12,240 Speaker 9: People are really thrown off. 2285 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:13,320 Speaker 2: I do the same thing. 2286 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:13,720 Speaker 9: Yeah. 2287 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:14,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 2288 01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 1: After a few messages, I'm like I after a few messages, 2289 01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 1: I'll be like, h hey, would you actually want to 2290 01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,320 Speaker 1: do a video chat? Because on a because like you 2291 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,680 Speaker 1: can only I think like it's it's good for a 2292 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:26,240 Speaker 1: few reasons. 2293 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,879 Speaker 3: Is it's very efficient. 2294 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,400 Speaker 1: It's afficient for both you and the other, because neither 2295 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,040 Speaker 1: you nor the person you're talking to wants to spend 2296 01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:39,599 Speaker 1: a whole fucking evening of their life with somebody who. 2297 01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,400 Speaker 9: Has a really weird voice, who has a. 2298 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: Really annoying voice, or looks different from their photos. See, 2299 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,960 Speaker 1: the video chat is like for both ends. It's I 2300 01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,960 Speaker 1: get to go, Hey, here's what I look like today, 2301 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 1: Here's what I have a question. Here, here's a little 2302 01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,560 Speaker 1: bit of what here's like a preview, and if and 2303 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 1: after this little effort preview fifteen minutes, I'm keeping it. 2304 01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,400 Speaker 1: The fifteen minutes. I'm on my couch, she's on her couch. 2305 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,599 Speaker 1: We don't have to leave, we don't have to spend 2306 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:10,920 Speaker 1: any money. We don't have to do anything, and then 2307 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,320 Speaker 1: if if the vibe is good, we upgrade it to 2308 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:15,280 Speaker 1: an in person meet. 2309 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 2: So during the call, yes, are you am I in 2310 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:20,519 Speaker 2: the suit? 2311 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:21,439 Speaker 9: Are you decked out? 2312 01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,479 Speaker 3: I'm not gecked out, But occasionally do you say gekt out? 2313 01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2314 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,400 Speaker 9: Like gekt out? 2315 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2316 01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 12: I like that. 2317 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:29,679 Speaker 3: Did you just come up with that, gecko? 2318 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,080 Speaker 9: Did you just say that for the first time? The 2319 01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:32,599 Speaker 9: gekt out? 2320 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,040 Speaker 3: That's kind of how I refer to like being in 2321 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:35,839 Speaker 3: the costume. 2322 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:36,479 Speaker 9: It's cool. 2323 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:39,960 Speaker 3: Fuck, What the hell was I going to say? 2324 01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,439 Speaker 9: You're talking about being on the couch? 2325 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 2326 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:46,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, it's been. It's it's I've 2327 01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,599 Speaker 1: very much enjoyed the pre Yeah, you don't waste any 2328 01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,439 Speaker 1: other time. I was like, if I'm on a first date, 2329 01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,400 Speaker 1: it requires a lot of energy. I think to go 2330 01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 1: on a first date, not. 2331 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:56,920 Speaker 9: If it's with the right person. 2332 01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,920 Speaker 12: To be honest, I think the right a good date 2333 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,840 Speaker 12: with the right person should give you energy. 2334 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:13,599 Speaker 1: I quasi agree with that. I think, however, my energy 2335 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,920 Speaker 1: is half. You know, I'm not gonna put like a 2336 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:21,080 Speaker 1: full number to it. I won't say half, but part 2337 01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,920 Speaker 1: of how I how I part of my energy is yes, 2338 01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,760 Speaker 1: you're right, how the other person energy is. And then 2339 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,320 Speaker 1: part of it is just like how I'm feeling, and 2340 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,120 Speaker 1: I think, like to go on a date, and like, 2341 01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, like if I'm going on a date and 2342 01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,240 Speaker 1: I like, you know, care, it's like, you know, I'm 2343 01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,479 Speaker 1: throwing all my best stories out there, I'm like, but 2344 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm like trying, I'm attempting to channel, Like, Okay, I 2345 01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:50,120 Speaker 1: have a strong range in my personality. Like I'm like, 2346 01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:56,680 Speaker 1: under certain conditions, Under certain conditions, I'm the coolest, funniest, 2347 01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:01,479 Speaker 1: most charismatic guy ever. I under certain phases of the moon, 2348 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:06,479 Speaker 1: certain amounts of like vib ance or coffee or like 2349 01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,280 Speaker 1: how my day was feeling, Okay, Like I can reach 2350 01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:13,040 Speaker 1: that pinnacle, and then I can also be like just 2351 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:16,400 Speaker 1: just like a dreadful to be around and just be 2352 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:21,360 Speaker 1: like like very socially awkward and have no energy and 2353 01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:27,840 Speaker 1: extremely timid and extremely like depressed or anxious, you know. 2354 01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 3: And it's like I have a strong range, you know, 2355 01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:33,360 Speaker 3: And I feel like if I'm. 2356 01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,960 Speaker 1: On a first date, you know, and I care whatever, 2357 01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,200 Speaker 1: I'll attempt to I'll attempt I mean, actually I feel 2358 01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,280 Speaker 1: like where I land on any given day in that 2359 01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,599 Speaker 1: range is actually something that feels out of my control 2360 01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,120 Speaker 1: in many ways, in many sense I've attempted to solve 2361 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:49,680 Speaker 1: for X. 2362 01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,040 Speaker 3: How in what conditions do I feel the most. 2363 01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,480 Speaker 9: Energized energized? When do you feel the most energized. 2364 01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,560 Speaker 1: Around two pm on a day that I took my 2365 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,559 Speaker 1: vibeance at ten am, on a day where I'm around 2366 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:07,599 Speaker 1: other people and you know, in settings like I feel 2367 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 1: very energized by settings like these, you know, where I'm 2368 01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: around other people in life and stuff like right now, 2369 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 1: I feel extremely energized. But you know, if whatever, if 2370 01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,720 Speaker 1: I just got back, if I just like, if it's 2371 01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,880 Speaker 1: like ten pm and I smoked a bunch of weed 2372 01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:22,160 Speaker 1: and I felt like shit all. 2373 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,160 Speaker 2: Day, I'm not gonna be energized, you know. So I 2374 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,759 Speaker 2: have a strong range in my energy. 2375 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,000 Speaker 3: But uh, I don't know. 2376 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:33,160 Speaker 1: So again, I just wanted a whole ramp. But I 2377 01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,320 Speaker 1: think doing a call is not weird. I think people 2378 01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,040 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I think a call is good. 2379 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,120 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. Okay, so you do 2380 01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:41,920 Speaker 3: a call? Yep, how many? 2381 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,640 Speaker 1: Mathematically, how many of your calls have resulted in like 2382 01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:47,920 Speaker 1: in person meetups? 2383 01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:53,120 Speaker 9: Maybe fifty percent? Some calls have been very weird. 2384 01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:55,679 Speaker 3: In what way. 2385 01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:01,000 Speaker 12: One guy had like a dog named Chicken, and he 2386 01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:02,880 Speaker 12: brought his dog on the call and he's like, look, 2387 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:06,400 Speaker 12: chicken can howl. And then he's like, makes a noise 2388 01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,800 Speaker 12: at chicken, and Chicken starts howling, and then a lot 2389 01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,479 Speaker 12: of the times this is the weird thing. 2390 01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,519 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, wait, before you get into that, you 2391 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,360 Speaker 1: did not like when he made the chicken howl because 2392 01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:23,160 Speaker 1: you you proudly identified as weird, and so I assume. 2393 01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:23,720 Speaker 9: He was weird. 2394 01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,760 Speaker 12: But in that moment, I was like, Okay, it's weird, 2395 01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,960 Speaker 12: but I can get like it's kind of like a quirk. 2396 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:30,240 Speaker 12: It's not a deal breaker. 2397 01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, sure, the. 2398 01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 12: Deal breaker was here's an interesting thing, Okay, I with 2399 01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,040 Speaker 12: guys that I'm talking to, it's kind of a tell 2400 01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,160 Speaker 12: that I'm not that into them. Also, just we like 2401 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,639 Speaker 12: look at each other's matches because don't you ever want 2402 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,080 Speaker 12: to like know what your competition is. 2403 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,840 Speaker 1: Why Why is that a tell that you're not that 2404 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,000 Speaker 1: into them? Because I have a different perspective on that. 2405 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:57,960 Speaker 12: Maybe it's not a tell, but maybe it's like it's 2406 01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,800 Speaker 12: a little bit more on the I don't care, which 2407 01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:02,639 Speaker 12: comes out more when you're not interested? 2408 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:08,200 Speaker 3: Why is that on the I don't care, Okay, I'll 2409 01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,040 Speaker 3: here's what I think is. 2410 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,559 Speaker 1: Like, I think that like when you're like, oh, let 2411 01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,479 Speaker 1: me see your matches or like let me see your conversation, 2412 01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:17,879 Speaker 1: I think that's very vulnerable. 2413 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:21,360 Speaker 3: You know, like that's a vulnerable thing to like show you. 2414 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,960 Speaker 9: So vulnerable because you're just showing like all the attention 2415 01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:25,360 Speaker 9: you get from other people. 2416 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:25,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2417 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:27,880 Speaker 3: I think that like depends on the guy. 2418 01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,320 Speaker 12: Like if it's someone who doesn't have a lot of matches, 2419 01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:32,760 Speaker 12: then maybe it's not the best look. 2420 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,960 Speaker 9: But if it's someone who has a lot of matches, 2421 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:37,200 Speaker 9: then maybe. 2422 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,080 Speaker 1: But I think that like there's something It's like there's 2423 01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,240 Speaker 1: vulnerability within those conversations. 2424 01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:43,880 Speaker 3: And also, look, there is vulnerability in like. 2425 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,640 Speaker 1: The thing that you're what I think, if I understand, 2426 01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,640 Speaker 1: if I correctly understand, the reason why you believe it 2427 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,479 Speaker 1: is a tell that you're not that interested that same reason, 2428 01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,120 Speaker 1: if I correctly understand, it would be to me a 2429 01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,280 Speaker 1: display of vulnerability. And I think displays of vulnerability bring 2430 01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:08,840 Speaker 1: people closer together. I maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but 2431 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:10,320 Speaker 1: with what you just said. 2432 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:11,840 Speaker 9: I agree that it brings people together. 2433 01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:16,720 Speaker 12: But for people who are truly afraid of vulnerability, it 2434 01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 12: almost like it can pull someone towards you because they're like, wow, 2435 01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,479 Speaker 12: like you're really vulnerable and that's cool, and I want 2436 01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,320 Speaker 12: to be more vulnerable, so I'm gonna come closer. 2437 01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2438 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,680 Speaker 12: But then some people it's like, wow, I don't know 2439 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,280 Speaker 12: what that is because I I was like taught to 2440 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:35,439 Speaker 12: be tough, so vulnerability scares me and it can make 2441 01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 12: people leave interesting. 2442 01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:39,000 Speaker 3: So it's a litmus test in that sense. 2443 01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:43,720 Speaker 12: It's a litmus test of how comfortable someone is with 2444 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:44,680 Speaker 12: being uncomfortable. 2445 01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:49,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so fifty percent of these phone calls ended in 2446 01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,760 Speaker 1: person things. Okay, so did you have any other weird 2447 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:54,360 Speaker 1: phone calls besides the guy making his dog bark? 2448 01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:57,760 Speaker 9: I'm sure I have. 2449 01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,160 Speaker 3: The you meet up with the dog bark guy. 2450 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:02,160 Speaker 2: No. 2451 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:11,320 Speaker 1: No, how soon into meeting someone, whether it's on a 2452 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 1: phone date or a real date, can you instinctively tell 2453 01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:17,400 Speaker 1: whether or not you like them? 2454 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:25,599 Speaker 9: I would say within five minutes, if not less. 2455 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,639 Speaker 1: Okay, and after five After five minutes, okay, let's say 2456 01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 1: like all right, right now, I'm hovering my hand here 2457 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:37,040 Speaker 1: for those listening on audio, if I if I'm up here. Okay, 2458 01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,280 Speaker 1: there's like there's neutral, right, yeah, okay, So does it 2459 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,640 Speaker 1: take you five minutes to go from neutral to I 2460 01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,200 Speaker 1: don't like them? Versus can it take you five minutes 2461 01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:48,599 Speaker 1: to go from neutral to I like them? 2462 01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:52,160 Speaker 9: Or or do you know? 2463 01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:52,640 Speaker 2: Do you get on? 2464 01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm asking you no, okay, like, because you can very 2465 01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,360 Speaker 1: clearly Okay, I guess what I'm asking you is you 2466 01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,880 Speaker 1: can pretty easily tell if you don't like someone within 2467 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,160 Speaker 1: five minutes. So there's just five minutes enough time for 2468 01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:06,320 Speaker 1: you to tell if you do actively like someone. 2469 01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,759 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying now, So I'm. 2470 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,000 Speaker 9: I'm a different case. 2471 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:11,679 Speaker 2: Okay. 2472 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:16,120 Speaker 12: When I decide that I like someone, I almost immediately 2473 01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:21,680 Speaker 12: like once I've decided, it's done, they have to like 2474 01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:23,479 Speaker 12: be really fucked up. 2475 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,720 Speaker 3: Dude, I think that's your yo. That's the thing about 2476 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:27,439 Speaker 3: a lot of dates. It's like. 2477 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll put a gender on it, 2478 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,960 Speaker 1: but like I think, like maybe I will, Like forgot, 2479 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,280 Speaker 1: I think for a lot of guys is like a 2480 01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:38,599 Speaker 1: date is like it's. 2481 01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:39,840 Speaker 2: Only your game to lose. 2482 01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,240 Speaker 9: Can you explain that, Like what. 2483 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,920 Speaker 1: You just said, if I like someone, it's done, right, 2484 01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,800 Speaker 1: So it's like when when I say, like, it's only 2485 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,320 Speaker 1: your game to lose, It's like I assume when you 2486 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:53,679 Speaker 1: like someone, it's done unless if they actively do something 2487 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:54,160 Speaker 1: that is like. 2488 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:58,400 Speaker 9: Very honestly, they could actively do something weird. Yeah, but 2489 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,080 Speaker 9: it has to be like really really fucked up. 2490 01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,880 Speaker 2: Okay, like they have to kill someone. Really, that's it. 2491 01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:09,559 Speaker 12: Like once the times that I've decided about someone, uh huh, 2492 01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,280 Speaker 12: and I was so confident, except like maybe once or 2493 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,240 Speaker 12: twice they're. 2494 01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:16,400 Speaker 9: The ones that has to have to end it. 2495 01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:20,320 Speaker 3: And you made that decision in five minutes? What information 2496 01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:20,680 Speaker 3: did you have? 2497 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,360 Speaker 9: Maybe not five? Maybe not five hanging out together once? 2498 01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:25,000 Speaker 3: Sure? 2499 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:25,919 Speaker 9: And then I've decided. 2500 01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:29,040 Speaker 3: Sure? What information do you gather that makes you like 2501 01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:29,960 Speaker 3: someone or an act like something? 2502 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,639 Speaker 9: It's honestly a lot of its energy. 2503 01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:32,200 Speaker 2: Sure? 2504 01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,080 Speaker 9: Are they confident? Do they know who they are? Do 2505 01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:37,320 Speaker 9: you feel safe around them? 2506 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:37,639 Speaker 3: Sure? 2507 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,599 Speaker 9: And then there are certain things. 2508 01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:44,200 Speaker 12: Just like fix about their voice, like do they have 2509 01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:47,479 Speaker 12: a really weird voice or do they have any really 2510 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,960 Speaker 12: intense views on things? 2511 01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:58,040 Speaker 2: Sure? Is there anything else that you I have things 2512 01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:58,400 Speaker 2: to share? 2513 01:46:58,520 --> 01:46:59,840 Speaker 3: Do you do you do you guys? Is there anything 2514 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,000 Speaker 3: else do you want to show? Do you feel? 2515 01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:03,800 Speaker 1: Do you feel satisfied with this conversation or is there 2516 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:04,800 Speaker 1: anything that you would want? 2517 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:05,719 Speaker 9: Well, how are you feeling? 2518 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,080 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good. I feel like I feel like 2519 01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,160 Speaker 1: this was a good hour and fifty minutes for me. 2520 01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:16,200 Speaker 1: I started today, I was like taking phone calls. That's 2521 01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,080 Speaker 1: how I normally do this podcast. But I was doing 2522 01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:20,720 Speaker 1: that for twenty minutes, and I was like, I can't 2523 01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:21,240 Speaker 1: do it anymore. 2524 01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,000 Speaker 2: I have to go outside. And so now I am here. 2525 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,639 Speaker 9: I have some things went much better than it went 2526 01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:27,599 Speaker 9: better you thought. 2527 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,280 Speaker 3: I feel like it much better, went much better than 2528 01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:29,599 Speaker 3: I thought. 2529 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 9: So I have a hot take. 2530 01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,479 Speaker 2: Hot take, and let me know what you think. 2531 01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:35,080 Speaker 3: Oh crazy. 2532 01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:41,280 Speaker 12: In New York, the coolest things are either downstairs or upstairs. 2533 01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:43,360 Speaker 3: I I like that hot take. 2534 01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,400 Speaker 1: I think if you go down a flight of stairs 2535 01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,720 Speaker 1: for something, it's cool, into something like comedy. 2536 01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:52,320 Speaker 9: Seller cool, smalls cool? 2537 01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,479 Speaker 2: What is Small's the jazz club? 2538 01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:55,880 Speaker 3: Oh I've never been there. 2539 01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:01,920 Speaker 9: Damn, I'm sure there's more. 2540 01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:03,360 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 2541 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,040 Speaker 9: And upstairs it's cool too. 2542 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:09,240 Speaker 1: I prefer a downstairs than an upstairs, but upstairs cool 2543 01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,000 Speaker 1: it means you, Oh there's the fucking yeah there he is. 2544 01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 3: I love that guy. Okay, if you were only listening 2545 01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:14,599 Speaker 3: on audio. 2546 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,800 Speaker 1: There's a guy who rides around town balancing a tire 2547 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,559 Speaker 1: on his head, and he just drove by. 2548 01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:22,519 Speaker 12: And I got really so like, what's your dinner party 2549 01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,040 Speaker 12: trick that you're gonna pull out at the shab about 2550 01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:25,679 Speaker 12: dinner tonight? 2551 01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh shit, what's my dinner party trick that I'll pull 2552 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:28,719 Speaker 1: out the shabout dinner tonight? 2553 01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:33,080 Speaker 12: Uh uh? 2554 01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:35,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll bring a pen and I'll be like, do 2555 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:38,559 Speaker 1: you want to play? I'm thinking of like something quirky 2556 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,360 Speaker 1: I can do. I can be like, uh, I'll bring 2557 01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:42,560 Speaker 1: a pen and be like, hey, do you want to 2558 01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,200 Speaker 1: play Tic tac toe on my arm? 2559 01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:45,040 Speaker 12: No? 2560 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 3: That's weird, right? 2561 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:47,840 Speaker 10: No? 2562 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,559 Speaker 3: Okay, well, what's your party trick? 2563 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:51,000 Speaker 2: You have one? 2564 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:58,320 Speaker 12: My party trick? I can balance a broom on my finger. 2565 01:48:58,400 --> 01:48:59,920 Speaker 12: But I feel like a lot of people could do that. 2566 01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:01,400 Speaker 3: A lot of people cannot do that. 2567 01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:02,040 Speaker 9: They can't. 2568 01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:08,479 Speaker 12: No, I'm a good dancer, Okay, I can sing. I 2569 01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,800 Speaker 12: can like crack out some amy winehouse. 2570 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,920 Speaker 1: M Is there anything that I should be prepared for 2571 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:18,679 Speaker 1: for this Shabbat dinner tonight? 2572 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,000 Speaker 2: Should do I need to bring something? 2573 01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,439 Speaker 11: I don't know? 2574 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:27,519 Speaker 9: Like that's the one thing. 2575 01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:29,879 Speaker 12: Like I'm an adult now, and I know you're supposed 2576 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,200 Speaker 12: to bring things to dinner parties. Okay, but like what's 2577 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,240 Speaker 12: the rule on that if you get invited after three 2578 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,800 Speaker 12: thirty pm and the parties at seven thirty? 2579 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:40,439 Speaker 9: Like, are you exempt? 2580 01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,680 Speaker 3: I think we'll probably be fine. Who invited you? 2581 01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 9: Some some person? 2582 01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:50,120 Speaker 12: Okay, it's his birthday tomorrow. Okay, we could like go 2583 01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,320 Speaker 12: havesies on some flowers. Maybe, oh you know, we could 2584 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:56,439 Speaker 12: do we could bring uh champagne. No, I was gonna say, 2585 01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,760 Speaker 12: we should bring rainbow cookies. Yeah, he's a very Jewish food, 2586 01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,200 Speaker 12: like rugula. You know, it's like it's like a little 2587 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,680 Speaker 12: like bites of cake with rainbow. 2588 01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,000 Speaker 9: And like, uh those those are always a hit. 2589 01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know? Do you know what I'm talking about? 2590 01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,599 Speaker 9: But I feel like most of the Jewish places are 2591 01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:11,280 Speaker 9: closed right now. 2592 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:18,519 Speaker 1: We get black and white cookies. Yeah, it could be cool. 2593 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:21,360 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the 2594 01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:22,680 Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go? 2595 01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 9: Mm hmm. 2596 01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:37,280 Speaker 2: No, you're really nothing. You don't have anything? Oh there 2597 01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:37,759 Speaker 2: is again. 2598 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:40,519 Speaker 3: I love this s guy. I'm gonna give him a dollar. 2599 01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:41,000 Speaker 12: What. 2600 01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:43,559 Speaker 2: Uh you have nothing? Any way? 2601 01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:45,800 Speaker 3: I said, you don't have to it's you. 2602 01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, I actually have something to say, but I want 2603 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,599 Speaker 9: to Can I look it up? Do you have a second? 2604 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:53,040 Speaker 12: Uh? 2605 01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:53,400 Speaker 3: Sure? 2606 01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:54,120 Speaker 9: Okay? 2607 01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:54,720 Speaker 7: Wait? 2608 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:55,040 Speaker 2: What do you? 2609 01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:55,519 Speaker 3: Where are you? 2610 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 9: Are you? 2611 01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:57,439 Speaker 2: Is it like something from the internet. 2612 01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:59,080 Speaker 9: It's the name of something. 2613 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,720 Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, yeah, you have a promote, you have 2614 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:02,719 Speaker 3: some you want to promote. 2615 01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:04,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, but it's not for me. 2616 01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:05,640 Speaker 3: Okay, who's it for? 2617 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,800 Speaker 9: It's a friend? Okay, well I met him once. 2618 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:11,240 Speaker 3: You have so many You probably have so many friends. 2619 01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,799 Speaker 2: Man, give me one second. 2620 01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,200 Speaker 3: What do we know? Okay? Can I ask you? 2621 01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:17,200 Speaker 2: What is the thing? 2622 01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:22,479 Speaker 12: He He made a book and it's a really cool book. 2623 01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:24,519 Speaker 12: I think he would honestly be a really cool person 2624 01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:25,280 Speaker 12: for you to interview. 2625 01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:25,599 Speaker 4: Cool. 2626 01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,760 Speaker 12: It's called I think it's called Questions. I don't want 2627 01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:31,680 Speaker 12: to get it wrong, but I think it's called questions 2628 01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:35,439 Speaker 12: for humanity or questions something humanity. 2629 01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:38,160 Speaker 9: And he went around the world. 2630 01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,200 Speaker 12: And he asked people if you could ask one question 2631 01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:46,599 Speaker 12: to humanity, any question, what would you ask? And it's 2632 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,880 Speaker 12: a mix of He took pictures for the book of 2633 01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:51,160 Speaker 12: the people he met along the way, and he included 2634 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:55,200 Speaker 12: what their answers were. And he sometimes goes on the 2635 01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,840 Speaker 12: street and asks people. And I just think that that's 2636 01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:02,640 Speaker 12: a really cool, really cool. 2637 01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,040 Speaker 1: Oh wait, uh wait, we're almost done. We're almost done, 2638 01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:10,880 Speaker 1: and then we can then uh and then uh I'll 2639 01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:11,640 Speaker 1: tell you all about it. 2640 01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:12,679 Speaker 4: Wait. 2641 01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:15,559 Speaker 3: Oh yes, we were just talking about you guys. 2642 01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait, oh wait, okay, all right, that is actually 2643 01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:22,960 Speaker 1: that is actually extremely Okay, I'm gonna give some context 2644 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:26,240 Speaker 1: for the audio listeners. Okay, So earlier, I was just 2645 01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:30,280 Speaker 1: talking about how occasionally, as I'm walking through Williamsburg, Jewish 2646 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,080 Speaker 1: gentleman will clock me that I am Jewish and asked 2647 01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,760 Speaker 1: me to do the to fill in, and that that 2648 01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:36,599 Speaker 1: just happened. 2649 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:38,680 Speaker 3: Wait, okay, can I can I do it off? 2650 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:38,920 Speaker 7: Can we? 2651 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,600 Speaker 9: Can I do it after we you should do it 2652 01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:41,439 Speaker 9: in the frog suit? 2653 01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:42,160 Speaker 2: Can I do it? 2654 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:43,439 Speaker 3: I'll do Can I do it after we're done? 2655 01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:45,479 Speaker 10: Uh? 2656 01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,320 Speaker 1: Sorry, I want to just finish up, but I'll do 2657 01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:53,960 Speaker 1: it afterwards. Uh oh, let me let me finish real 2658 01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,679 Speaker 1: quick and then we'll do it. Okay, okay, cool, Okay, 2659 01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:58,160 Speaker 1: what was the thing you wanted to you wanted to 2660 01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:01,680 Speaker 1: talk about? Drop the name of the thing we're in. 2661 01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:05,600 Speaker 1: We're in big postgame podcast right now. I'm gonna end 2662 01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,360 Speaker 1: this thing. It's been to here we go, Okay, hit 2663 01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,880 Speaker 1: us with the self promotion. So it's not for me, 2664 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,840 Speaker 1: but it's for I guess it's not self promotion, hit 2665 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:13,799 Speaker 1: us with the friend promotion. 2666 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:18,280 Speaker 12: It's called Questions to Humanity and it is a coffee 2667 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:22,639 Speaker 12: table book that has questions. This friend of mine went 2668 01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 12: around the world and ask different people if they could 2669 01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:30,640 Speaker 12: ask humanity one question, what would they ask? And he 2670 01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:34,479 Speaker 12: took pictures of them and it's just a really interesting project. 2671 01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,559 Speaker 9: So you should check it out. And also I will 2672 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:43,680 Speaker 9: drop my Instagram it is Rachel Himmel r A C 2673 01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:48,360 Speaker 9: H E L H I M M E L. This 2674 01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 9: was fun. 2675 01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,000 Speaker 1: Rachel, nice to meet you. Thank you very much for 2676 01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,759 Speaker 1: talking to a gecko. This has been being a gecko 2677 01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:57,320 Speaker 1: in the park in real life. 2678 01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,320 Speaker 3: This was great. What a fun day talking of people. 2679 01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:05,960 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, uh it's over now go outside, 2680 01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:09,640 Speaker 1: go if you go leave, go go outside, touch some 2681 01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,640 Speaker 1: touch some grad do something with your life or not. 2682 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,479 Speaker 1: You don't have to You don't ever have to do anything. 2683 01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:22,160 Speaker 1: Subscribe or don't do something or don't do something. Ghak 2684 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,759 Speaker 1: Bless you all, thanks for watching. I'll see you again 2685 01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,680 Speaker 1: at another time and place on the internet or in 2686 01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:30,480 Speaker 1: the afterlife. 2687 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:32,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Bye everyone, Thank you very much for watching