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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this. It is The Herd. No Colin Cowherd.

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Speaker 2: I am Danny Parkins from FS one's First Things First,

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Speaker 2: soon to be expanded. First Things First, it's a thrill

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Speaker 2: to be out here in Los Angeles and for the

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Speaker 2: legend that is Colin Cowherd. We've got a great show

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Speaker 2: for you today on this Monday, my guy Cole Kamt

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Speaker 2: from The Bears will join us in about thirty minutes

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Speaker 2: to explain why everyone is completely correct. It's a panic

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Speaker 2: about every interception around Caleb Williams. Do I think Cole

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Speaker 2: might have a different take on that. Bruce Feldman joins

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Speaker 2: the show. My new teammate at First Things First, Chris Broussard.

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Speaker 2: Later on the Bear tons of football because we made it.

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Speaker 2: There's a football game this week kind of in the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame game. But we've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: NFL to get to over the course of today's show.

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Speaker 2: But somehow someway. Even though it is game week in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, Lebron James still finds himself in the center

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Speaker 2: of the news because I did not expect to land

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Speaker 2: in Los Angeles to an Instagram post from a guy

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Speaker 2: I had never heard of, who was Nikola Jokic's agent

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Speaker 2: on a yacht in France with Lebron James and Maverick Carter.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, okay, Lebron world traveler. Who who

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Speaker 2: among us hasn't been on a yacht in the south

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Speaker 2: of France with the greatest offensive player in twenty years

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Speaker 2: as agent?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a thing that could happen to anybody,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, that's nice. They bumped into

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Speaker 2: each other while vacationing having some fine wine, and then

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Speaker 2: you read the caption on Nikola Jokich's agent's Instagram post.

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Speaker 2: The summer of twenty twenty five is the perfect time

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Speaker 2: to make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Summer of twenty twenty five, that's now perfect time to

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Speaker 2: make big plans for the fall of twenty twenty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna have some reverberations around the NBA because everybody

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Speaker 2: seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to

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Speaker 2: dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing

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Speaker 2: to trade the last first round pick that they control

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Speaker 2: to go out and make a bigger move for this

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Speaker 2: offseason to try to be all in quote unquote to

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Speaker 2: win now with Lebron, that Lebron is somehow unhappy with

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, and Lebron, by the way, has done some

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Speaker 2: things to fan fuel to that flames. Because I like

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Speaker 2: to say about Lebron, we're similar in age. We're elder millennials.

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Speaker 2: We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's like.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm gonna unfollow my employer, I'm gonna tweak this thing,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna patrol a little bit. Lebron in his camp

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Speaker 2: is very good at controlling the message and nothing that

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Speaker 2: they do is without intent, and he drives the twenty

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Speaker 2: four to seven sports talk industrial complex more than any

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Speaker 2: modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever. So he's vacationing,

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Speaker 2: He's on a yacht, this guy puts out a post

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Speaker 2: and now it becomes a story. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: Lebron is leaving LA, and it is for no better

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Speaker 2: reason than say it out loud. Lebron James Denver nugget.

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Speaker 2: I just don't believe it. I have a very hard

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Speaker 2: time believing. The guy who is now on his third franchise,

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Speaker 2: who has delivered LA a championship, who just got Luka

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Speaker 2: Dancic as a teammate, who they drafted his son, He's

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Speaker 2: building his forever home out here, he has all of

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Speaker 2: his business ventures out here. I have a hard time

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Speaker 2: believe believing. On that yacht they were talking about Lebron

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Speaker 2: James going to Denver, And for the life of me,

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Speaker 2: I have struggled with understanding why we talk about Jokic

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Speaker 2: about Giannis and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was

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Speaker 2: Joker's agent talking about big plans for next summer. Well,

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Speaker 2: Yokic is under contract for this year, and he's under

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Speaker 2: contract for next year, but then he's got a player

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Speaker 2: some unknown reason floated the idea of trading Joker.

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Speaker 4: You remember, for us as an organization, going into that

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Speaker 4: I think that there are rules around it that we

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Speaker 4: The wrong person gets injured, and very quickly you're into

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Speaker 4: scenario where that I never want to have to contemplate

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Speaker 4: and met to trading number fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Odd choice. I think we could all agree to unprompted

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Speaker 2: bring up trading Nikola Jokich. But Yannis can't do anything

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Speaker 2: without one hundred headlines and hot take people being like

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Speaker 2: Gianis has to leave Milwaukee. When Jannis was an international

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Speaker 2: pick to a small market team who's won an MVP

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Speaker 2: There are way more similarities to Jannis and Jokic, but

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Speaker 2: no one ever talks about Yokic being unhappy in Denver.

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Speaker 2: What if Jokic's agent is making big plans for next year,

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Speaker 2: when for all intents and purposes, it is an expiring

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Speaker 2: option for Jokic to leave Denver to go to Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles to play with his longtime friend Luka Doncic, that

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Speaker 2: feels to me way more likely what the big plans

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Speaker 2: could be than Lebron James being a Denver nugget for

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Speaker 2: one year. I have no idea how many more years

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Speaker 2: Lebron James is playing. We say father Time is undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Lebron James is trying to shatter expectations on that cliche,

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Speaker 2: but to say it out loud. Test tells me it

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Speaker 2: is more likely that they're just trolling. Frankly, but that

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Speaker 2: if I had to say Jokic in LA and they

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Speaker 2: figure out a way to make that work, or Lebron

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Speaker 2: just straight signed in Denver for a year, which granted

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Speaker 2: year as we all know. I'll still take the more

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Speaker 2: difficult path and believe that it's much more likely that

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Speaker 2: Lebron is figuring out a way to team up with Jokic,

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Speaker 2: pair him with Luca, make one more run at a

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Speaker 2: after him and having that be a part of his Lakers' legacy.

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Speaker 2: I won you the title in the bubble, maybe I

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Speaker 2: I set you up to have the best duo in

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Speaker 2: we don't know where Jokic or Lebron's going. I got

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Speaker 2: a pretty good idea how this next story is going

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Speaker 2: to end, but it still doesn't change any of the drama.

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons is going to stay in Dallas. But it's

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Speaker 2: to Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, because love them

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Speaker 2: there at training camp just not really participating. Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: and he was greeted with chance of pay Micah, pay Micah,

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Speaker 2: and then he talked to the media afterwards and he

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott last year said, you know, I just kind

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Speaker 2: his check. But that was last year. Ceedee Lamb. Just

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Speaker 2: last week, when talking about Micah Parsons and these contract

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Speaker 5: Jones obviously playing his media game with Jerry is not

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Speaker 5: the best, is not fun, is not recommended. But as

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Speaker 2: And he will get paid soon. You all know how

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Speaker 2: this ends. This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa

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Speaker 2: the highest paid non quarterback in football and he wants

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago

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Speaker 2: another contract. He will top TJ. Watts forty one million

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Speaker 2: called a media literacy test here. I think we would

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Speaker 2: all be served to actually pay attention to Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 2: And I know it's a bold strategy, and Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 2: and Dak Prescott have said they're trying to do different things,

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Speaker 2: but I don't play quarterback for the Cowboys. Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: saw how this country was enamored with the Last Dance,

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Speaker 2: And he struck a deal with Netflix to produce a

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Speaker 2: and we'll see what America's appetite is for a long

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Speaker 2: form documentary on America's team. It will not be as

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Speaker 2: popular as the Last Dance because we're not in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a pandemic, but they were popular in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: The Bulls were popular in the nineties. I'm sure it

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Speaker 2: will do quite well. But when the trailer came out,

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Speaker 2: there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I

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Speaker 2: actually was like, Ah, there it is, thank you. This

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Speaker 2: is a soap opera three hundred and sixty five days

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Speaker 2: a year. That is his business model. That is why

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Speaker 2: they're not in the biggest market, but they're the most

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Speaker 2: valuable franchise. They don't have the most wins or the

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Speaker 2: most Super Bowls, but they're the most valuable, most talked

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Speaker 2: about franchise. He believes, and frankly has been proven right

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Speaker 2: that the soap opera is what sells. He's the owner,

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Speaker 10: Those two sentences you just said, and number fifth best

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Speaker 11: It's a team They just don't. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: It was Will Disley that through those four interceptions. Just

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Speaker 10: What about you, You're right on the money.

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Speaker 10: That's the Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones, at least since

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Speaker 11: They are a drama.

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Speaker 10: They are I've used that term to describe them soap opera.

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Speaker 10: He's gonna make him the highest paid non quarterback ever,

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Speaker 10: It will help him among other players right on other teams.

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Speaker 10: What would change his world would be winning another Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: my college football card. The Bear helps me fill that void.

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Speaker 2: Plus ever too early to bet Texas and Ohio State. Next,

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Speaker 2: Colin Cowhard Coming up in a little bit. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to a quarterback from last year who probably deserves a

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Speaker 2: little bit more hype heading into this year, but he's

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Speaker 2: a victim of circumstance. But right now, let's go around

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Speaker 2: the NFL our Next guest covers the league for the

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Speaker 2: Athletic National NFL writer Mike Jones with us on the Herd.

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Speaker 2: He's covered the NFL for the last fifteen years. Mike,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for the time. I began today's

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Speaker 2: show reacting to Jimmy Haslum's comments about Arch Manning because

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Speaker 2: he says he's probably going to stay in college for

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Speaker 2: two years. It's very rare that we have a college

445
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Speaker 2: prospects talked about as the number one pick before he's

446
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Speaker 2: really accomplished anything in college. I get it, the last

447
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Speaker 2: name on the Jersey Heisman Trophy, favorite second best team

448
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Speaker 2: in the country. But I'm curious, how how do you

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Speaker 2: think the league at this point views arch Manning the

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Speaker 2: NFL prospect.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they've only seen a little flashes here and

452
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Speaker 9: there of him. You haven't seen him in a full

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Speaker 9: time basis. So I don't think that anybody's getting overly exciting.

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Speaker 9: Obviously there's intrigue there because of the name and the

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Speaker 9: athleticism and ability that you see, but let's wait until

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Speaker 9: we see him, you know, as a full time starter,

457
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Speaker 9: and you know, then I think that we'll have a

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Speaker 9: better idea. Obviously people have been taking notes, they have

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Speaker 9: the body of work or that he's shown, even though

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Speaker 9: it's limited, But I haven't talked to any scouts or

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Speaker 9: anybody that's like overly excited about him this early.

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Speaker 2: So a guy who people were overly excited about, and

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Speaker 2: I would say for good reason, was Travis Hunter. And

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to break the record for most

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Speaker 2: snaps played in a season as a rookie if he

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Speaker 2: distinued what he did last year in college in the pros,

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Speaker 2: he would shatter it, and he did that in thirteen games.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars seem to be like verymitted to playing him

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Speaker 2: both ways, but everyone on the outside is like, are

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Speaker 2: they really going to play him both ways? How do

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Speaker 2: you think this is going to go?

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Speaker 9: You know, it's going to be a real interesting experiment

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Speaker 9: as we see them go out there, because, look, you've

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Speaker 9: got to see what his effectiveness is going to be. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: in training camp and the practices, he probably looks good.

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Speaker 9: You know, he's got good conditioning. We've seen him play

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Speaker 9: multiple seasons this way, but the NFL is just another

478
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Speaker 9: level up the physicality, the speed and everything. So I

479
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Speaker 9: think there's going to be a you know, maybe a

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Speaker 9: snap count that they have on him early on as

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Speaker 9: they try to figure out what he can handle, how

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Speaker 9: he's able to be effective, you know, as a wide receiver,

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Speaker 9: as a defensive back. I talked to scouts who feel

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Speaker 9: like he is an elite level defensive back and probably

485
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Speaker 9: a pretty decent wide receiver. Did talk to one that

486
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Speaker 9: thought he might be a better receiver with his boss

487
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Speaker 9: skills than a cornerback. But he is really excited to

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Speaker 9: see how they handle this and what his ability to

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Speaker 9: handle the workload and play and an high level is

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Speaker 9: going to be.

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Speaker 2: Like my theory on it is we are all former athletes,

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Speaker 2: regular people like you and may media. We are behind

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Speaker 2: in understanding the full impacts of sports science and how

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Speaker 2: amazing the modern athletes are. The example I users like

495
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Speaker 2: back in the Day or running back Hits twenty seven,

496
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Speaker 2: they're falling off the cliff. Now we've got Derrick Henry

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Speaker 2: at thirty approaching two thousand yard seasons, like it's nothing right.

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Speaker 2: Athletes have just gotten better. We see in Green Bay

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Speaker 2: they're working out Bowl Melton, trying to maybe turn him

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Speaker 2: into a two way player because of some injuries that

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Speaker 2: they had at Corner. I feel like if Travis Hunter works,

502
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Speaker 2: it could open the floodgates for these elite athletes and

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Speaker 2: we could start seeing more guys try to do it.

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Speaker 2: Or do you think I'm insane?

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Speaker 9: No, I don't think you're insane. I do think that

506
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Speaker 9: everybody's going to be watching. I think there are kids

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Speaker 9: in college and coaches in college who are going to

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Speaker 9: be watching. And as you see more guys come out

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Speaker 9: and more guys able to execute at an elite level,

510
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Speaker 9: if there is a two way player, then sure there

511
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Speaker 9: will be a ripple effect throughout the NFL, And you're

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Speaker 9: definitely right. Like the science behind all of this has changed.

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Speaker 9: These guys have chips on their uniforms, in their pads

514
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Speaker 9: that they can look and see how many miles power

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Speaker 9: he's running in the first part of practice compared to

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Speaker 9: the last part of practice, in the first quarter of

517
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Speaker 9: a game as opposed to the fourth quarter of the game.

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Speaker 9: So they're going to have all of the science. Even

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Speaker 9: if he's saying I feel good, they'll be able to

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Speaker 9: tell if he's slowing down, if there's a drop off

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Speaker 9: or anything like that. And so all of that science

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Speaker 9: is going to go into the decision on how much

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Speaker 9: of a workload they give him, and it's just going

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Speaker 9: to be fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Mike Jones from The Athletic is our guest. So Trey

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson reports the camp. Terry McLaurin reports the camp. They

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Speaker 2: don't have new contracts yet. My theory is basically in

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Speaker 2: a post leveon Bell World, it's an endangered species, like

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Speaker 2: the true holdout of missing Games. So I know Chris

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Speaker 2: Jones did it, I know Jonathan Taylor did it, but

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Speaker 2: it's less now than back in the day because the

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Speaker 2: money is just so insane. It's so hard for these

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Speaker 2: guys to really turn it down. So I view off

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Speaker 2: season contract consternation as just media filler, like, oh, Trey

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson's upset with his contract. Yeah, it's July he's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be, or it was May he was supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: And I think that these are inevitable that they are

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Speaker 2: going to get done. What about you?

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Speaker 9: I do think they get done. It's unfortunate for the

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Speaker 9: players that in the last CBA they negotiated and so

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Speaker 9: the teams can find them fifty thousand dollars a day,

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Speaker 9: and so that adds up. You hang out for three

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Speaker 9: days and you're like, okay, that's one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 9: dollars fine, And then it starts really getting a little

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Speaker 9: painful and you decide to come back, and we'll see

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Speaker 9: more hold ends rather than hold outs.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I think that eventually these two sides are talking

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Speaker 9: in Cincinnati, the two sides are talking in Washington, they'll

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Speaker 9: eventually get something done. Because obviously the pressure is there

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Speaker 9: for these coaches to win, they need these marquee players,

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Speaker 9: and so these owners will drag their feet, drag their feet,

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Speaker 9: But eventually everybody's gonna come to the point and get

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Speaker 9: it all done, and all this would have been for nothing.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the reputation that Dallas is

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Speaker 2: stacking up now about how they handle their star players contracts.

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Speaker 9: It's the cowboy way, It's Jerry Jones, And I think

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Speaker 9: that he loves this because what does he love is

559
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Speaker 9: the Cowboys being on the forefront of everybody's mind and

560
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Speaker 9: talking about them. And he press is good press for him.

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Speaker 9: And so we've seen him do it again and again

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Speaker 9: and again, drag his feet on paying a top level player,

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Speaker 9: a guy who has proven himself to be very valuable,

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Speaker 9: and then the last minute he finally winds up opening

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Speaker 9: the checkbook, even though it cost him tens of thousands

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Speaker 9: and you know, millions of dollars more, rather than have

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Speaker 9: taken care of the guy way earlier. And then every

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Speaker 9: time somebody at the position signs a new contract, the

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Speaker 9: price tag goes up up. And so Micah Parsons is

570
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Speaker 9: going to wind up surpassing TJ. Watt as far as

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Speaker 9: the highest paid pass rusher. It's just a matter of time.

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Speaker 2: Let me Devil's advocate that one though, Michah Parsons should

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Speaker 2: make more money than TJ. Watt. He's younger, and Dak

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Speaker 2: Prescott had a no tag clause and a no trade clause,

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Speaker 2: so he wanted Jordan Love to sign first. He wanted

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Speaker 2: to sign for Ceedee Lamb, wanted to see what Justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson would do to set the market. Michah Parsons wants

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Speaker 2: to wait for Miles Garrett and TJ. Watt, Like when

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Speaker 2: you have truly elite Tier one players at their position

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Speaker 2: with leverage, the player probably wants to wait too for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys to get these deals done.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure there's part of them that would just like

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Speaker 9: to get it out of the way. But at the

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Speaker 9: same time, I think that's probably part of the reason

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Speaker 9: why Michaeh Parson's like, hey, look, I'm coming to work.

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Speaker 9: I owe this to my teammates. I want to be

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Speaker 9: in the best position to be able to help us

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Speaker 9: win because he knows he eventually it's gonna get done.

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Speaker 9: And as like you said, more guys in my position

590
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Speaker 9: get paid, my price SAT keeps going up, and Jerry's

591
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Speaker 9: gonna wind up doing what Jerry does and make me

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Speaker 9: the highest paid player in the league. At my position,

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Speaker 9: and so yes, it's probably annoying having it hanging over,

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Speaker 9: but they know eventually it's all gonna work out for them.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that could happen in Pittsburgh this year

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Speaker 2: where we would even say that forget hot seat, that

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Speaker 2: the seat was lukewarm for Mike Tomlin?

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Speaker 9: I think so. I think this has really the potential

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Speaker 9: to be disastrously bad. You know. I mean this Aaron

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Speaker 9: Rodgers that we see right here is not the same

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Speaker 9: guy that we're thinking of from Green Bay. We did

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Speaker 9: see him look a little better down the stretch of

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Speaker 9: the season with the Jets last year. But if he

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Speaker 9: and Arthur Smith don't gel just right, if the offense

605
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Speaker 9: isn't clicking, what does Aaron Rodgers do when things aren't

606
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Speaker 9: going well? He starts pointing fingers, He'll pull back the

607
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Speaker 9: curtain on the ineffectiveness of the organization. People have said

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Speaker 9: for a while that as great a leader as Mike

609
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Speaker 9: Tomlin is, he has not evolved the practices of that

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Speaker 9: organization and that coaching staff and the way they do things.

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Speaker 9: And so if Aaron Rodgers, if things don't go well

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Speaker 9: and there's finger pointing and things like that, that he

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Speaker 9: is known for as of late, then yeah, things will

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Speaker 9: look bad and go poorly, and you know that seat

615
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Speaker 9: for Mike Tomlin could heat up because they basically just

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Speaker 9: pushed all their chips into the middle this year. Very

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Speaker 9: un Pittsburgh Steelers like offseason, and if it doesn't plan

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Speaker 9: out well, then you know, then we could be asking questions.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to get your take on my guy,

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. The guy's the ultimate eye test quarterback for

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Speaker 2: interceptions even though a couple were off his guy's hands

622
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Speaker 2: and his interior offensive line was collapsing around him. Still

623
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Speaker 2: bad playoff game all in two in the playoffs. But

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Speaker 2: I am just convinced from watching the guy play football

625
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Speaker 2: that he's a star and he's going to do great things.

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Speaker 2: Where do you come out on I test versus actual

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Speaker 2: results for the team For Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 9: I agree with you that he is as talented as

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Speaker 9: they come. His ceiling is very high. My question is

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Speaker 9: everything around him. I do think that Harbaugh was good

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Speaker 9: for him last year. I think another season with him

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Speaker 9: would be good for him. The questions are just okay,

633
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Speaker 9: does he have enough as far as weapons around him?

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Speaker 9: Did they really improve the line significantly? Enough. You know,

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Speaker 9: they got Makai Beckton, but you know he was really

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Speaker 9: good last year with Philadelphia, which is an offensive line factory,

637
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Speaker 9: and they work together so well. Is he going to

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Speaker 9: be as effective in new surroundings? You know, does Justin

639
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Speaker 9: Herbert have the wide receivers to go to enough weapons?

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Speaker 9: Because the thing is they're in this division with the Chiefs,

641
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Speaker 9: and until somebody proves they can knock off the Chiefs,

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Speaker 9: you know I will take them every time. So yes,

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Speaker 9: he's super talented. He gives you everything you could ask

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Speaker 9: for in a quarterback, but everything around him is the

645
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Speaker 9: big question mark.

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Speaker 2: The guy who has everything around him is Jalen Hurts,

647
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Speaker 2: and Philly fans get mad at me because I say,

648
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is a top ten quarterback who benefits tremendously

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Speaker 2: from having guys that are better at their jobs than

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Speaker 2: he is at his around him. He's clutch, he's a leader,

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Speaker 2: he's smart. But for example, like Saquon Barkley is a

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Speaker 2: better running back than Jalen Hurts as a quarterback, AJ

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Speaker 2: Brown is a better receiver than Hurts as a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Lane Johnson, Jordan Mylatta, Jalen Carter, et cetera. I don't

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Speaker 2: see that as a knock on Hurts. Anyone would benefit

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Speaker 2: from being in that situation. And then you add, he's clutch,

657
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Speaker 2: he's a gamer, he's a leader, he's smart, and that's

658
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Speaker 2: what leads you to bludgeoning teams on the way to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. How do you evaluate Hurts individually amidst

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Speaker 2: the super team that's around him.

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Speaker 9: I think he's super underrated. I mean, the dude just

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Speaker 9: makes the plays that he has to make when you

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Speaker 9: need him the most. He's got an accurate deep ball,

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Speaker 9: he can extend plays. He's a strong, powerful runner, He's

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Speaker 9: got good instincts. He doesn't force things. He just really

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Speaker 9: basically is disciplined and says, Okay, I'm gonna take what

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Speaker 9: the defense gives to me. He doesn't care what his

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Speaker 9: stats look like if it means that they're winning. And

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Speaker 9: he's got the best mindset that you could ask for

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Speaker 9: in a quarterback. And so I don't get the you know,

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Speaker 9: the lack of love for him, because he just proved

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Speaker 9: this past year what he was able to do, and

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Speaker 9: he just, you know, he kept doing it again and again. Yes,

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Speaker 9: he's got a lot to work with. He's got a

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Speaker 9: great offensive line, great weapons you know at a running back,

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Speaker 9: at receiver, a great defense. But still he makes the

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Speaker 9: big plays when they need them the most. And so

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Speaker 9: I think that he is one of the top of

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Speaker 9: his position.

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Speaker 2: One of the top, so the top, like behind the

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Speaker 2: Big four. You would put him right next right behind

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Speaker 2: Lamar Burrow out mahomes Is. He's you say, you put

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Speaker 2: him right there.

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Speaker 9: I think he's got to be right there. Yeah, you

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Speaker 9: know after that that those guys, I mean, he's got

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Speaker 9: the Super Bowl ring, he's got the productions against.

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Speaker 2: The well, well, hey, he was twenty second in the

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Speaker 2: league and pass attempt that he had less than twenty

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Speaker 2: passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 9: The production, but that's not his fault that they have

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Speaker 9: Saquon Barkley. I would hand it off to him too.

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Speaker 9: But when you ask him to put the ball in

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Speaker 9: the air and to make the plays, he makes the plays.

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Speaker 9: So I mean, who's whose fault is that that he's

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Speaker 9: not passing more? I mean he could pass more. You know,

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Speaker 9: AJ Brown, J Brown's frustrated because they're not throwing more,

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Speaker 9: but they just know that. Hey, like you said, we've

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Speaker 9: got an elite running back, We've got an elite offensive line.

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Speaker 9: We believe in balance and it's working.

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Speaker 2: So for first four games of last year, they were

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Speaker 2: two and two when he was throwing the ball thirty

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Speaker 2: two to thirty three times a game, and they're like,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna start running more. And again he's really good.

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Speaker 2: But they won all the playoff games without throwing more

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Speaker 2: than twenty eight times in the game because they just

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Speaker 2: bludgeon people and then play from a lead. It's it's

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Speaker 2: a super team and he benefits from it. And I

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Speaker 2: feel like that's an okay thing to say he runs

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Speaker 2: their system perfectly. He does.

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Speaker 9: And also I really am waiting for the year that

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Speaker 9: we can see him in a system consecutive years instead

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Speaker 9: of changing offensive coordinators every single year, because then I

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Speaker 9: think we'll really see him go to another level. Fortunately,

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Speaker 9: the dated this year has been there for a while,

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Speaker 9: so hopefully he has a little more continuity. But again,

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Speaker 9: the guy makes the plays when you need him. He

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Speaker 9: gets the job done. I'm not complaining about him.

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Speaker 2: Mike Jones covers the NFL for The Athletic Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Sir, all right, have a good one. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it was our pleasure. Thank you. That's Mike Jones

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Speaker 2: covers the NFL for the athletic Now, that's the craziest

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Speaker 2: jail and hurt stat of all of them. Going back

723
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Speaker 2: to college, it's like nine offensive coordinators in nine years.

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Speaker 2: That is ridiculous. And again it's why I always lead

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Speaker 2: with unbelievably smart, unbelievable leader. But coming up next last

726
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: year quarterback class was historic, and frankly, I think there's

727
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Speaker 2: one guy who probably should be looking around and be like,

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Speaker 2: why am I not getting a little bit more love?

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Speaker 2: Tell you who it is next, Andy Parkinson For Colin on.

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Speaker 7: The Hurd, be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 7: Herd weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 7: Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 8: Yeah You Ready Friday with Camino and Rich.

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Speaker 6: And for Colin on the Herd, I mean, am I ready?

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Speaker 6: I stay ready? I've been ready since first call.

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Speaker 8: By the way, Friday, Friday Friday.

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Speaker 6: It's earthly for that. I've been ready since first call?

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Speaker 8: Roll?

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Speaker 6: What movie?

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Speaker 2: I mean?

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Speaker 9: I know?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 8: I kind of say it? Say Keewee's Big Adventure? That

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Speaker 8: was Wayne Arnold? Who can you play?

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Speaker 6: None? Yeah, Jason Hervey's major line.

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Speaker 8: So flashing it back already on a Friday pump for

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Speaker 8: the weekend Covino and Rich. We're on Monday through Friday,

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Speaker 8: five to seven on the East, two to four on

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Speaker 8: the West. Just search Covino and Rich wherever you get

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Speaker 8: your podcasts. And we have our bonus show on Fox

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Speaker 8: Sports Radio's YouTube page. Over promised new episode dropped yesterday,

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Speaker 8: but always a pleasure to be here. Now every Friday

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Speaker 8: on our show, we do something called Weekend Hobnobin, So

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00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 8: we'll do that before the end of the day. That's

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Speaker 8: everything you need to watch in the world of sports

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Speaker 8: and entertainment, so you know what's going on come Monday

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Speaker 8: when everyone's hobnobin at work, all right, So we'll.

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Speaker 6: Keep you posted on that.

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Speaker 8: Plus we do something called Chipotle worker or WNBA player

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Speaker 8: and we give away prizes. Yeah, is the woman a

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Speaker 8: WNBA player or Chipotle worker? If everyone claims to know

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Speaker 8: the WNBA, so well, this should be easy. It's our

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Speaker 8: way too familiarize are ourself with WNBA. But at the

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Speaker 8: same time, give props to Chipotle workers because they do

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Speaker 8: a hell of a job.

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Speaker 6: And who doesn't love a burrito ball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we gotta get your hype for a naked gun

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Speaker 8: weekend and the first of the month. And by the way, uh,

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Speaker 8: there's a big story and a lot of chatter about

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Speaker 8: actually quite the opposite cam Ward. Maybe not a lot

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Speaker 8: of chatter and is that a good thing? So we're

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Speaker 8: gonna get to a lot of NFL today, but before

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Speaker 8: we get into what won the day yesterday? Why do

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Speaker 8: they hide the straws with Starbucks?

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Speaker 6: Is that? Is that just out here in Los Angeles

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Speaker 6: as the turtles.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they don't want people just taking them and dumping

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Speaker 8: them into the ocean. I hate the whole I feel

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Speaker 8: like such an ass every time you guys go to

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Speaker 8: a straw, I just put them out.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, they hide them behind the count Do you.

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Speaker 8: Think if they put him out then like people are

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Speaker 8: gonna like abuse the straws. It's true. A lot of

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Speaker 8: people wondering why you would even want a straw with

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Speaker 8: your coffee. It's a nice coffee. What am I gonna

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Speaker 8: everybody SIPs out of a little uh swirly straw, a

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Speaker 8: little silly straw like you do.

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Speaker 12: It's not very very manly. Rich also uses a straw

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Speaker 12: for his alcohol at a bar.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so they do they do keep them behind the counter,

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Speaker 8: I think, honestly, just to conserve them and just so

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Speaker 8: people don't waste them. For people like you who go

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Speaker 8: to Chipotle, speaking of Chipotle, and steal all the forks

795
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Speaker 8: and knives all the time because you don't have the right.

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Speaker 8: They have good civil right and one of their thrita bowls.

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Speaker 8: When two burrito bowls are forty dollars, then I'm stealing forks.

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Speaker 8: That doesn't mean you should take three handfuls. So people

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Speaker 8: probably take a ridiculous amount of straws. So just hand

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Speaker 8: them out if and when you need them. So anyway,

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Speaker 8: I'm Steve Cavino. If you know the answer to that,

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Speaker 8: let us know. The number is eight seven seven for

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Speaker 8: the herd eight seven seven four the heard us eight

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Speaker 8: seven seven four eight four thirty four to thirty seven.

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Speaker 8: We love taking phone calls, so let's get involved to

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Speaker 8: stay interactive. And that's Rich Davis who posed the question,

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Speaker 8: and Rich, yes, Before we talk about who won last night,

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Speaker 8: I just want to say, I hope you had well,

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Speaker 8: not an astro sort of I screw them.

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Speaker 6: Hope you had a trade lance.

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Speaker 8: Tonight doesn't even matter, No, it does, because you were

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Speaker 8: dumping on him yesterday. Hope you had a trade l

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Speaker 8: if we're gonna talk about how he's such a bust

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Speaker 8: when he goes thirteen for twenty one hundred and twenty yards

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Speaker 8: two tuddies and they went thirty four to seven. Hope

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Speaker 8: you had a trade lance, ser tonight. It might be

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Speaker 8: the only two. It might be the only time I

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Speaker 8: say it all year. You know what fair point? So

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Speaker 8: give him prop props to trade lance, and props to

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Speaker 8: the people that hide straws. I honestly, I just is

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Speaker 8: it feminine not masculine to sip out of a straw?

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Speaker 6: Who knows?

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Speaker 8: But know what I want to talk about to start

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Speaker 8: the show today in for the herd c and our

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Speaker 8: how baseball is popping. Baseball is doing everything it should

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Speaker 8: be doing. They're marketing their stars better. They got young

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Speaker 8: kids interested again. There are a lot of young stars

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Speaker 8: that also helps. There's a lot of big familiar names

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Speaker 8: baseball's doing. To quote Charlie Sheen in the two thousands,

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Speaker 8: winning winning, Baseball should be winning on August for us

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Speaker 8: today we flipped a calendar, and we should be talking

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Speaker 8: about pennant races. We should be talking about how great

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Speaker 8: baseball is, right now, you know, over the last five

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Speaker 8: to ten years, I get it football still king, I

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Speaker 8: love football, but we were a little obsessed with football

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Speaker 8: to the point where it was August and we were

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Speaker 8: talking about preseason antics and all this when we really

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Speaker 8: should be talking about baseball, and that was baseball's fail.

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Speaker 8: Now that baseball's back, it's very clear that this should

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Speaker 8: be baseball time. There's so many reasons as to why,

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Speaker 8: and we've been speculating that for a long time. But

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Speaker 8: they made all the right adjustments. Yeah, we always talked

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Speaker 8: football because baseball was moving slow as the world was

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Speaker 8: changing and moving faster, and you're scrolling on TikTok and

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Speaker 8: you're so easily disinterested. Baseball was boring. But they made

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Speaker 8: the right changes. They made the game quicker. That really

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Speaker 8: did help. The fact that we had more than one

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Speaker 8: superstar in Shoheo Tani and Aaron Judge and Tease and

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Speaker 8: Harper and like goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 6: Now, can I tell you the fact that.

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Speaker 8: The fact that we had the major market teams in

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Speaker 8: the playoffs last year and it was exciting as hell.

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Speaker 6: You heard it in our voices last year.

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Speaker 8: The Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers like it made it

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Speaker 8: that much more fun and it's set up for a

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Speaker 8: really exciting season this year. Well, major markets part of it,

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Speaker 8: but it also proves that if you're a small market

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Speaker 8: and play your cards right, you could win.

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Speaker 6: The Brewers have the best record in baseball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when you got the Dodgers and the Yankees battling

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Speaker 8: in the World Series, when you got some other cool

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Speaker 8: teams in the mix in the playoffs and it seems

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Speaker 8: like there's a lot of teams still in it to

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Speaker 8: win it, it makes things exciting. That's why we saw

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Speaker 8: a lot of big moves. Even our guy Tim Kirkchean,

866
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Speaker 8: who's been reporting on baseball for one hundred and fifty years,

867
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Speaker 8: said yesterday's trade deadline may have been the craziest, most

868
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 8: exciting he's ever been a part of in his career.

869
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 8: And then did he say, I'm Tim Kirchean, I'm Kuran ESPN.

870
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Speaker 8: So yeah, everybody knows it. We were all on the

871
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 8: edge of our seat even on this show yesterday. Oh

872
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 8: my god, Well, who's gonna get who? What moves are

873
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 8: gonna be made? Are your teams gonna win this deadline?

874
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 8: And it was exciting, man, and there wasn't really that

875
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 8: many giant names but like that were traded, but some important,

876
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 8: impactful moves were made. Yeah, the moves for the teams

877
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 8: that needed to make moves. We're gonna see if they

878
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 8: make sense. We're gonna go over some of them. But

879
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 8: are you saying baseball won yesterday? Baseball won the day?

880
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 8: Baseball is popping. They out shine to me your first

881
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 8: preseason game. Look at it this way. There's Terry McLaurin news,

882
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 8: there's you know, Micah Parsons's cowboy activity going on.

883
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 6: This story is in the NFL.

884
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 8: But to me, the baseball trade deadline and the excitement

885
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 8: with about what fifty sixty games to go? Hey, speaking

886
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 8: f TIM and ESPN, that's a bad time for them

887
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 8: to lose their deal with the MLB.

888
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 6: We if that's official? Is that not official anymore?

889
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 8: Well, it is popping again and you gotta invest now,

890
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 8: buy now, because baseball's back.

891
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 6: It's back in a big way. And Rich is absolutely right.

892
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 8: If you go back a few years, we'd be talking

893
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 8: football right now, without a doubt because people would be

894
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 8: tired and board of baseball. In fact, in radio, pull

895
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 8: you behind the velvet rope when you lead with baseball,

896
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 8: and you talk baseball, you lose most of the audience

897
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 8: because it's sort of a boring old guy conversation, not

898
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 8: anymore more. And that's what we lead with today. Baseball

899
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 8: is back, Baseball is winning. Baseball one yesterday, it's August first,

900
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 8: and we're talking baseball. We're not ready and eager to

901
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 8: turn the page. Are we excited about football? Of course?

902
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 8: But are we still hanging on to see where this

903
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 8: season goes? Absolutely more than ever, more than we have

904
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 8: in the past ten plus years. I said it yesterday.

905
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 8: September and October are going to be overstimulating. If you're

906
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 8: a baseball fan, and now you know on the heels

907
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 8: of football coming back, you may very well be completely

908
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 8: overstimulated with football starting, Pennant races playoff baseball the early

909
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 8: part of the NFL season. The next few months are

910
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 8: going to be pretty sweet. No what I want to

911
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 8: say that contributes to baseball popping and coming back. I

912
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 8: think baseball cards are something to do with it, believe

913
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 8: it or not, because these kids are going wild about it.

914
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 8: So let's talk about all the little things adding up,

915
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 8: because sometimes it could be a relationship, it could be

916
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 8: a job, it could be something we are like, what

917
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 8: do you love about it? It's like there's not one

918
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 8: big thing like yesterday. Yesterday with the trade deadline, there

919
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 8: wasn't one big star other than Suarez to the Mariners.

920
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 8: There wasn't really like a top tier guy in my opinion.

921
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 8: At Yeah, you might say a couple of the closers

922
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 8: Johann Durand to the Phillies. But I'm saying, and it

923
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 8: wasn't like a year where like Piazza was on the

924
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 8: move or Soda was on the.

925
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 6: Move, or you know, like it wasn't one of those.

926
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 8: No. I think we could add up all the little

927
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 8: things and say all the little things together Baseball cards,

928
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 8: that's really good on Kivo. I really think embracing the

929
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 8: celebrating instead of being all type butt about it. Like

930
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 8: when the Dodgers get a double and they do their

931
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 8: silly little dance on Seca Bay if he hit flesh yeah,

932
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 8: Or when my Mets get a hit they do that

933
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 8: little rolling of the arms hand up, or all these

934
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 8: teams when they score a home run they wear a

935
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 8: funny helmet in the dugout, they take like a selfie.

936
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 8: They do their little celebrations to me. I got another

937
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 8: one that is also a contributing factor about the Hey,

938
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 8: I know it's baseball and only eighty year old guys

939
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 8: really love us and talk about us. But we're gonna

940
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 8: do something called City Connect Jerseys, and you know, maybe

941
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 8: that'll help bring some excitement. People want to want to

942
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 8: represent a little bit. I think that's great, without a doubt.

943
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 8: It's moving so fast. The Yankees changed their beard policy,

944
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 8: facial hair policy, so jerseys, these little things mattered merch

945
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 8: Baseball cards, celebrations stood out to the Wieniels.

946
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 6: Can I tell you something I saw?

947
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 8: And Colin loves to point out baseball's poppins or on

948
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 8: the same page with the guy we're filling in for

949
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 8: the legendary Colin Cowherd, I can't help but say when

950
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 8: you go to a game, now, I'm not a I'm

951
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 8: not a bird brain. Well maybe a little, but I

952
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 8: don't need to be completely entertained. But when I tell

953
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 8: you the entrances for the closers, the walk up music,

954
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 8: all the in stadium stuff is eating actress at another level,

955
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 8: like when Edwin Diaz comes in for the Mets and

956
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 8: Timmy Trumpets is blaring city Field Now, has a light show.

957
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 8: When Duran who just got traded to tell me, you know,

958
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 8: maybe you got to thank the Savannah Bananas for that.

959
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 6: I mean, do you sis?

960
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 8: Dave stepped up the entertainment factor so much, and I'm

961
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 8: sure baseball said, hey, why are we shying away from family?

962
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 8: But you remember, like a year ago, who you remember

963
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 8: a year ago the guy that's now a Philly Johann Durant.

964
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 8: We talked about how his entrance for the Minnesota Twins

965
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 8: was unbelievable, Like the stadium shuts down and those the

966
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 8: lights go crazy. Those type of things are are right

967
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 8: on the right track. So I think we nailed it here.

968
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 8: Baseball's back and each team has stars.

969
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 12: Again and big events like tomorrow Bristol Motor Speedway.

970
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 6: Dude, that's going to be sick.

971
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 8: Did you see the overhead of what it looks like

972
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 8: when you fit a baseball stadium on a racetrack?

973
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 6: It looks insane.

974
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 8: It's the first ever game in the state, so that's

975
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 8: extra excitement for all the kids out there.

976
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 6: And the Field of Dreams game, the Field of Dreams game.

977
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 8: They do the international play once in a while now,

978
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 8: so uh, international stars. But you know what Rich I

979
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 8: mentioned in passing Savanna Bananas. I do believe that opened

980
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 8: the door to Hey, baseball's fun and exciting for little

981
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 8: kids and families, and that could be a stepping stone

982
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 8: to watching the big leaguers do their thing. And in

983
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 8: related news, I don't know if you saw this yesterday,

984
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 8: but sources say the Yankees traded Anthony Volpi to the

985
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 8: Savannah Bananas in exchange for ten foot nine pitcher and

986
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 8: DH Dakota stilts albatron. Yes it's a good one. Yes,

987
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 8: they got rid of Volpi, we got the guy on

988
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 8: the stilts. I know it's gonna it's gonna be a

989
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 8: big time. You can't wait to see this, man. I

990
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 8: wasn't sure if it was official, but I saw the meme,

991
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 8: so it has.

992
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 6: To be real. Cove.

993
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 8: I don't want to discount the Savannah Bananas. Some love it,

994
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 8: some roll their eyes at it, but I'm not saying

995
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 8: it changed baseball. But you know what, you don't think

996
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 8: it's a nice gateway for a little kid if you

997
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 8: don't think in stadium production crews and there was there's

998
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 8: been marketing and PR boardroom meetings where it's like, hey, listen,

999
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 8: welcome the Savanna Bananas are doing. We need to incorporates

1000
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 8: some of that. Stadiums you now they have the sausage rate.

1001
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 8: We need Fron Johnson. You know how they have a

1002
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 8: sausage race in Milliawaukee. Yeah, every stadium is now sort

1003
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 8: of doing their own version of stuff like that. I

1004
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 8: know they got the Presidents one in DC for the Nationals,

1005
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 8: but every stadium now has some type of race. It's

1006
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 8: no longer just the fifth inning. Guess which had the

1007
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 8: balls under on the scoreboard? Great City Subway race, by

1008
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 8: the way, I got one. I know you didn't think

1009
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 8: of What Rich is doing is compiling a list to

1010
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 8: figure out why and how we've come so far with

1011
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 8: baseball and such a short period of time. Just two

1012
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 8: years ago we would be talking about NFL, no doubt,

1013
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 8: no diggity. But you gotta ask yourself. You and I

1014
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 8: are big baseball fans. We grew up playing and loving baseball,

1015
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 8: and then as we got older, football became king and

1016
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 8: baseball was more of a I wouldn't say niche sport,

1017
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 8: but more of something. We're like, yeah, and I love baseball,

1018
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 8: but now baseball is poppin', I mean our power and

1019
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 8: I'm even more intrigued, being that I coach faster paced.

1020
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 8: I coach baseball now, and these kids are interested interested.

1021
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 8: And again I give baseball cards a lot of credit

1022
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 8: because they came back with all these special cards and

1023
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 8: all these cool unboxings you see.

1024
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 6: On social media. You can thank COVID for that.

1025
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 8: Yeah maybe, But here's one I know Rich isn't going

1026
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 8: to bring up. But that is when collectors. That is

1027
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 8: when a lot of card collectors came back. Oh you

1028
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 8: know what, man, there's so many great cards and I'm

1029
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 8: a big fan. You remember how exciting that was just

1030
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 8: to get a great card when you were a kid.

1031
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 8: Imagine how they feel now with all the options the food.

1032
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 8: Baseball parks have stepped up the food next level to

1033
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 8: the point where it's ridiculous. And every year they're releasing

1034
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 8: new menu items at the ballpark. When you're spending that

1035
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 8: much money to go, you want to have a good time.

1036
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 8: I think that also added to the fun, don't we

1037
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 8: find ourselves talking about all the generic The only generic

1038
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 8: food I ever have at a ballpark is a Dodger

1039
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 8: dog because you feel like you have to. But other

1040
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 8: than that, if I go to a stadium, you got

1041
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 8: so many fun options. Dude, we just came back from Atlanta.

1042
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 8: They have barbecue restaurants within the stadium. They have Chick

1043
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 8: fil A's in the stadium. Stadiums are are personalized to

1044
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 8: that city. Yeah, there's so many great fun and goofy options.

1045
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 8: It adds to the fun. You know, baseball lost its way.

1046
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 8: It became old and boring. It's a game. It's supposed

1047
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 8: to be fun and exciting, and they're leaning more toward that.

1048
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 8: And you know, boss Man hit us up and he said,

1049
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 8: do you guys you named all that and you didn't

1050
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 8: even mention pitchclock, pace of play, length of game. You know,

1051
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 8: bat flips, tenth inning, guy starts on second base, and

1052
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 8: extra innings.

1053
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 6: They are moving the game along.

1054
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 8: Like I like it and hate it all at the

1055
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 8: same time, because when your team has someone at second

1056
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 8: base automatically an extra innings, you're.

1057
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 6: Like, yes, and but what is the other team like?

1058
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: No, I hate that.

1059
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 8: And while we do love the added uh we well,

1060
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 8: we do love the human element of sports. I'm telling you,

1061
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 8: the next big one is gonna be those, as Danny

1062
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 8: said yesterday, the two ball strike challenges.

1063
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: And then and then if you.

1064
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 8: Get them right, you get the third one because I

1065
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 8: think even some of these umpire fights and the staredowns

1066
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 8: and all that that's good, and the feuds Danny, your Dodgers,

1067
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 8: and Padres hate each other, that that helps. Mets Phillies,

1068
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 8: you know what I think helps too, though. I think

1069
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 8: again having the Yankees, Dodgers, mess those teams in it,

1070
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 8: yet still having big market teams competing, like Rich said,

1071
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 8: that helps. But I think it helps that even though

1072
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 8: your Dodgers won Danny g last year, they're not a

1073
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 8: hateable team. Show Hey, Mookie, Bets Freeman. They these guys

1074
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 8: make that ridiculous team that you have of all stars

1075
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 8: not hateable. So it gets people tuned in. You want

1076
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Speaker 8: to beat the Dodgers, but you don't hate the superstars.

1077
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 8: There's so many superstars that you could root for that

1078
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 8: aren't even on your team, that are likable, and Show

1079
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 8: Hayes one of them. Well, I think that helps. I

1080
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 8: want to I want to point out that right now.

1081
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 8: Let's let's let's do the math. I'm a mathematician here, guys.

1082
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 8: We just came back from Atlanta, even that derby, we

1083
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 8: were at the All Star Game. Everything about it, the

1084
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 8: way it ended in dramatic fashion. The swing off. Yeah,

1085
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 8: you know, the swing off was ridiculous. The bombs, these

1086
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 8: monster circus shots. These guys are hitting the exit velocity.

1087
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 8: When you see guys like O'Neil Cruz just teeing off,

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00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 8: you're like.

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Speaker 6: My god.

1090
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 8: You know, kids love that man. So it's it's back

1091
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 8: in a big way, guys. And the proof is today.

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00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 8: That's why we bring it up. Yesterday with the trade

1093
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 8: deadline and a lot of moves were made. We'll speculate

1094
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 8: on that, but without a doubt, we'd normally be talking

1095
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 8: about the Chargers Lions game yesterday.

1096
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 6: Because you're so quick to right. You're so right that, Danny.

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00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 8: We've been here at Fox Sports Radio four or five

1098
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 8: years now, almost right about that.

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00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 12: We've feels like ten working.

1100
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, we've been doing our show together for like decades now,

1101
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 8: I promise you, what is it twenty twenty five? Since

1102
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 8: twenty ten, I'd say every year until now. If you

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00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 8: told me the preseason kicked off in the NFL and

1104
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 8: there were some you know, stories about stars like McLaurin

1105
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 8: and Michael Parsons and Aaron Rodgers and we were leading

1106
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 8: with baseball. This is the only year. Baseball's that back

1107
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 8: in a big way. And right now this fifty ish

1108
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 8: games left in baseball fifty ish most teams have about

1109
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 8: fifty three fifty four games left on the schedule. So

1110
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 8: with fifty four games left right now, the Mets and

1111
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 8: the Phillies are within a half a game of each other.

1112
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 8: The Brewers have a one game lead on the Cubs.

1113
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 8: The Padres only trail the Dodgers by three, and they

1114
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 8: just added Mason Miller. In the National League, you're looking

1115
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 8: at that, that's insane. You go to the American League.

1116
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 8: If you think the Yankees are gonna roll over, I

1117
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 8: hate to say, because Caminos a Yanks guy. Oh you

1118
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 8: beefed up their bullpenper If you think they're gonna roll over,

1119
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 8: and just give this division to the Blue Jays, they're

1120
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 8: three and a half games only and Jean Carlos Stanton's back.

1121
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 8: Bro the only the only division which is bunk. I

1122
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 8: apologize Twins fans because she sort of just sold everything. Ester,

1123
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 8: You just you had a yard sale. That's the only

1124
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 8: division where the Tigers got it. And then the West.

1125
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Speaker 8: You don't think the Mariners four games that made the

1126
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 8: biggest offensive moves so yeah, there's there's people that say,

1127
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 8: over the last fifty games they think the Mariners might

1128
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 8: be the best team. Well that's the other reason too.

1129
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 8: You got other fans holding on longer than they've had

1130
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 8: uh in previous years. Way more teams have a chance

1131
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 8: deeper into the season now at the extra wild card

1132
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 8: and everything else. So yeah, these are all the reasons.

1133
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 8: I mean, we went from the fun excitement to baseball

1134
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 8: cards to the food at the stadium.

1135
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 6: Speeding up the game. That's that's obvious.

1136
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 8: That definitely helped. People were against it, but they made

1138
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 8: the move. We reaped the benefits, and now we're talking

1139
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 8: about it now. Dude, the next fifty games, it's gonna

1140
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 8: be electric. And by the way, if you're not a

1141
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 8: fan of our show Monday through Friday, what's wrong with you?

1142
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 6: You should be.

1143
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 8: But Rich and I have a bet of who has

1144
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 8: has the best record, the Yankees or the Mets. And

1145
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 8: it's a thousand dollars bet, which isn't gonna make or

1146
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 8: break anybody. But you think I want to lose one

1147
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 8: thousand dollars to this guy. Until the Mets got cold,

1148
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 8: I was loving the bet more because the Mets are

1149
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 8: two games better than the Yanks out last week when

1150
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 8: it was like five game but we raised the Stags

1151
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 8: one hundred dollars for every extra game that they won

1152
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 8: by So, you know, every day on there glued. And

1153
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 8: that's another thing too, rich. I think people putting action

1154
01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 8: on games that also helps. You know, so many factors

1155
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 8: as to why baseball is just way more exciting in

1156
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 8: the past few years. And we the proof is today

1157
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 8: And this is no ad, but for real, I've been doing.

1158
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 8: We would do the reads for the DraftKings pick six.

1159
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 8: Every so often I'll throw ten bucks on, like, oh,

1160
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 8: a Mookie home run with a you know, a Wan

1161
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 8: Soto more than one and a half bases and oh,

1162
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 8: Mike Trout with a double like I'll do those, you know,

1163
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 8: quick little bets. And I think there's so many layers

1164
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 8: as to why baseball's back, and I think we just

1165
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 8: named like ten of them.

1166
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 12: I should point out that our afternoon Drive show is

1167
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 12: eighty percent NFL, so for you guys to lead with baseball,

1168
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 12: it does point out that that baseball is thriving right now.

1169
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 12: But the real test is going to be when there

1170
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 12: are some real NFL games to compete with, because Rich.

1171
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 12: It's easy for you to brush over that Hall of

1172
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 12: Fame game last night. Yeah, I'm guessing you didn't watch

1173
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 12: much of it.

1174
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 6: No, I watched. I watched a half. How much did

1175
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 6: you watch?

1176
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 8: I watched like zero point zero like background, Yes, I watched.

1177
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 8: I watched highlights, and I was like, I looked at

1178
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 8: Trey Lance's box score and that's it. But you know what,

1179
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 8: You're right, Danny, if it was Thursday night kickoff, that

1180
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 8: is by far what we're all watching it. Just it

1181
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 8: might be more of a reflection that baseball was struggling

1182
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 8: so much that a preseason football game over the last

1183
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 8: decade got our interest more.

1184
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 6: But not right now. I think everything really.

1185
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 8: Started to shift when the postseason started to pop last year.

1186
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 8: It's the wild Cards, man, My postseason is so electric

1187
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 8: last year, so many big moments. That's when it all

1188
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 8: started to come to fuition and come together. Of course,

1189
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 8: all the little changes were in place, but that playoff series,

1190
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 8: that postseason last year really set us up for all

1191
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 8: this excitement this year. That Padres Dodgers first round, the

1192
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 8: Mets making their ridiculous run, that Alonzo home run in

1193
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 8: the ninth inning, moments, Soto doing the Little Stare for

1194
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 8: the Yankees, then hitting a home run, like everything about

1195
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 8: the postseason was fantastic.