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Speaker 1: She is absolutely lovely. I've known her for Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think it's like twenty years now, something like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited to have her here, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: This is so calvaal. Hello, beautiful little girl.
Speaker 4: Hello, gorgeous she is.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 5: I was just to be nice to me already.
Speaker 1: Oh hold on one second, Val Christy ten dollars super sticker, Christy,
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Speaker 4: You're generous, You're a magnanimous superstar friends, so I'll tell
Speaker 4: you that much.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I was just I didn't
Speaker 1: tell the whole story, but I was just trying to
Speaker 1: explain to Chad. I said, you know, I met Val
Speaker 1: when she was a baby, and I said, I think
Speaker 1: I told her you have you have to get out
Speaker 1: of this locker room. Now, you have to run and
Speaker 1: protect yourself. You were like sixteen years old when I
Speaker 1: met you.
Speaker 4: I was like maximum sixteen. Because you have you heard
Speaker 4: these wa wew show. Excuse me, I've also done a
Speaker 4: company in wawwew going back that far, which by the way.
Speaker 4: So great to see you. I love you so much, Franny,
Speaker 4: I love you. I love you so much. I'm so
Speaker 4: thrown to be here. But yeah, I remember a story
Speaker 4: that I always tell people, like how long you've been
Speaker 4: in wrestling? And I'm like, a long damn time because
Speaker 4: one of these shows, for example, do you remember when we
Speaker 4: went to Well you guys went to Dave and Busters
Speaker 4: and the cab had to drop me off early because
Speaker 4: I wasn't eighteen to go in.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we would have got you in. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: we would have got you in, Jamie. Two dollars, super chaid,
Speaker 1: hello with you?
Speaker 2: Is that currency?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 5: Is that a five dollars currency?
Speaker 4: Shame?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 4: Please, can we individually say a big happy birthday to Jamie.
Speaker 4: We love Jamie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, happy birthday, doll and we appreciate you coming
Speaker 1: to see Valence supporter on my show, so thank you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for being here, Jamie. Yeah, I would have smuggled
Speaker 1: you in. You certainly didn't look sixteen.
Speaker 4: And listen, I think we should all be able to
Speaker 4: play pinball when we want a ski ball and whack
Speaker 4: a mole without ageous people at David Busters.
Speaker 1: I know, why were we even there.
Speaker 4: It was a party. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We didn't play pinball. I know we were at the
Speaker 1: bar the whole time.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I would have got you in there, though I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have encouraged you to drink because you were so young.
Speaker 1: But you could have sat at a table. They had, like,
Speaker 1: you know, appetizers, and you could have frolicked with us.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't. It was a firm eighteen and up
Speaker 4: and you had to show an ID and I was
Speaker 4: I was definitely under eighteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were a door. I think I met you
Speaker 1: for the first time in Florida and an MLW show. Yep,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that was the night, and you were
Speaker 1: so cute and you.
Speaker 4: I remember like it was yesterday. You came up to me.
Speaker 1: You were very timid, and but then you got super
Speaker 1: loud and you were like She was so quiet at first,
Speaker 1: and she goes, oh my god, it's fran freaking fran
Speaker 1: freaking scene, she said, And then I think you might
Speaker 1: have did this or something to the equation I did.
Speaker 4: It was deservedly, so I'm still gonna do it right now.
Speaker 4: It's just a deserved stop. But she looked adorable, but
Speaker 4: I was like, honey, how old are you? And I
Speaker 4: think you said sixteen. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you cannot be back here. He's like, where's your mother? No,
Speaker 4: she didn't say where was your mother.
Speaker 1: They're a guardian supervision anywhere, but you you were working
Speaker 1: at sixteen years old for the local local FEDS in Florida.
Speaker 4: I was so basically okay, weirdly enough. I don't mean
Speaker 4: to be like it's my wrestling anniversary, but I always
Speaker 4: just for my personal you know whatever. March thirtieth, two
Speaker 4: thousand and two was the first time I did a
Speaker 4: live wrestling show, and I sort of gauge it from
Speaker 4: them because I go, you know what, March three to
Speaker 4: two thousand and two, three days after my sixteenth birthday,
Speaker 4: I was consistently doing shows. So for me personally, If
Speaker 4: that doesn't register on anyone's you know, radar, I don't
Speaker 4: care for me personally, I go, that was my foray
Speaker 4: into wrestling, and it hasn't stopped. Now at almost thirty
Speaker 4: seven years old, so almost twenty three years now doing shows.
Speaker 4: But that was like early Anaheim managing Scott Lost and
Speaker 4: Panoi Boy now known as TJ. Perkins. Yeah, I did
Speaker 4: a few shows in so cal Then when we moved
Speaker 4: back to Florida. We'd lived in Orlando. Before moved back
Speaker 4: to Orlando, Florida, I was looking up like I thought
Speaker 4: I might have to wrestle, or maybe need to wrestle.
Speaker 4: I didn't really want I'm gonna Very early on, I
Speaker 4: thought I would probably have to wrestle because that's what
Speaker 4: all the girls that I love did. But I wanted
Speaker 4: to be more of the manager. I wanted to be
Speaker 4: a Tory, not Elita. Does that make sense, okay? And
Speaker 4: I looked up like the Malinko school, And then people
Speaker 4: like Gabe Sapolski and Salhamui and Ron Nimi gave me
Speaker 4: opportunities and Chris Carson and SCW in small independent wrestling
Speaker 4: shows in central Florida and also Tampa Saint Pete MLW.
Speaker 4: Also Court Bauer, one of the first people that ever
Speaker 4: gave me an opportunity, was like, listen, I know you're young,
Speaker 4: but there's another girl that's kind of doing like a
Speaker 4: raffle or like like ring girl duties, and maybe you
Speaker 4: could have like a little spat with her in cat fight.
Speaker 4: And that's probably where I met you at MLW. But
Speaker 4: I want to preface this. We're getting into so many
Speaker 4: subjects already. But I talk a mile a minute, so
Speaker 4: strap in laves and gentlemen, I'll say something and I
Speaker 4: think you know this, But let me explain fran scenes
Speaker 4: in I'm gonna cry. I'm so emotional. Oh no, let
Speaker 4: me explain Fran scene's influential stuff on my career. So
Speaker 4: when I first started doing shows, my friend I was
Speaker 4: going to xp W and like so Kel shows, there
Speaker 4: was a so Kel uncensored message board and they said,
Speaker 4: who is this young girl that keeps coming to the show?
Speaker 4: Who is this chick with the legs? Because I were
Speaker 4: short skirts, I'm very leggy, and what's up Stacy Keebler anyway,
Speaker 4: that's anyway you.
Speaker 1: Have lovely legs. By the way, well thanks, yes.
Speaker 4: Both of them. So I grew on myself both they're real.
Speaker 4: By the way, they are real.
Speaker 1: Are they for a million dollars each? Each?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Less from you?
Speaker 4: Dahlf Okay, listen, okay, thanks golf.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 4: So I was doing my first shows in Anaheim, California,
Speaker 4: and the promoters, you know, I met some of the
Speaker 4: promoters at XPW. My first show is Golden State Championship
Speaker 4: Wrestling in Anaheim, California, out of flea market. Love a
Speaker 4: flea market, no judgment. I had a great time, bought
Speaker 4: some old school Triple H T shirts. I was very happy.
Speaker 4: And the guy said, listen, we want you to be
Speaker 4: like a cat fighting manager. And I was like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, music to my ears. I don't want to
Speaker 4: be some wrestler. I want to be you know, the
Speaker 4: Stephanie and the cat and people like that, and Torry Well,
Speaker 4: Tory was later I think, and he goes, I want
Speaker 4: you to study for Ran scene and Don Marie's cat fights,
Speaker 4: and my little green ass went home and I ordered
Speaker 4: on eBay. I still have my mother's house by the way,
Speaker 4: if I want. If you want proof, I can send
Speaker 4: it a couple of weeks VHS tapes that have Fran
Speaker 4: scene and the franch fry. I call them the franchy
Speaker 4: franchise Shane Douglas, Fran Scene and the franchise Shane Douglas,
Speaker 4: also Don Marie and all the ECW stuff. And I
Speaker 4: studied you Miss Franny and Don Marie and the cat
Speaker 4: fights and the managerial aspect of wrestling. So that was
Speaker 4: literally my first tape study was you.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm flattered to hear that before this happened.
Speaker 1: Now were you training, like were you did they tell you? No?
Speaker 1: No training?
Speaker 4: No? No, I mean I literally just I had a
Speaker 4: friend that was, you know, watching wrestling with me. He
Speaker 4: was like in his thirties. I was again sixteen. Another
Speaker 4: friend of mine was a girl that was about maybe
Speaker 4: mid twenties, and we went to shows. Mom was like,
Speaker 4: you know, you cannot go to shows but yourself. These
Speaker 4: are you know, sketchy areas in LA, which they were
Speaker 4: for those keepings Court home. And I would go with
Speaker 4: my friends and then one of them said, hey, I
Speaker 4: know a promoter and one of the earliest people I
Speaker 4: managed also was Frankie Kazarian. So I started doing small
Speaker 4: shows in southern California, but I really wanted to manage.
Speaker 4: I was never training. I didn't really start training at
Speaker 4: all until I got to Florida, like maybe two years later.
Speaker 4: And even then it wasn't like, you know, actual like
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a wrestler training. And I said
Speaker 4: to them, I'm like, I want to be able to
Speaker 4: do mixed tags and take a bump believably. But I
Speaker 4: didn't want to be you know, a lita or a
Speaker 4: jazz that's just not in my nature whatsoever. And I
Speaker 4: brewised like a peach. You know, doctor's orders so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, I have a little surprise for you if you're
Speaker 1: if you're up to it, yeah, I believe this is
Speaker 1: one of maybe a handful of matches that you had
Speaker 1: with yours truly in WW and we have it and yay,
Speaker 1: if it's okay with you, I'd like to pull it
Speaker 1: up and we could do a little commentating.
Speaker 4: I would love to do this, you know. Can I
Speaker 4: tell you I get asked about this match a lot,
Speaker 4: not monthly, not yearly, I get asked about it all
Speaker 4: the time, and I do always say this was my
Speaker 4: first ever real one on one match, okay on pay
Speaker 4: per view. And I totally remember telling you that because
Speaker 4: you were, oh my god, people that are watching at home,
Speaker 4: Franny was so beyond like I would say motherly but
Speaker 4: just you know, you were just so nurturing and just
Speaker 4: so we'll do this together, and you wanted to make
Speaker 4: it a great thing, and you were so lovely with me.
Speaker 4: And I said to you, I was like, I've never
Speaker 4: had a one on one match. I probably had cat well,
Speaker 4: I definitely buy them. I had had like cat fights
Speaker 4: and maybe a mixed tag, but this is a totally
Speaker 4: different animal to go head to head one on one
Speaker 4: in a match that's live on paper. So that will
Speaker 4: explain my lack of skill.
Speaker 1: And no, first of all, I feel like we get
Speaker 1: asked about this a lot because we're barefoot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know what for those watching you
Speaker 4: like what you like. I ain't here to judge, no,
Speaker 4: not at all. I only that's pretty tame. Now when
Speaker 4: you get into some other weird stuff, which I'm sure
Speaker 4: you've been requested as well, well, you know, feet are
Speaker 4: nothing compared to what we get asked.
Speaker 1: I said all. I'm like, out of all the fetishes,
Speaker 1: the feet are just now. I don't understand it because
Speaker 1: like my feet, Oh, I think they're atrocious, But Wiki
Speaker 1: feet says different. I got like a nine point five
Speaker 1: or eighting on wicked feet.
Speaker 4: Well, what I think you should be proud. I think
Speaker 4: it should be in your resume going forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe i'll update that and I'll add my
Speaker 1: my foot. But yeah, but I remember Dan Kuwaal coming
Speaker 1: to me and he's like, okay.
Speaker 4: You and I we started. You started as like my assistant.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we did, and I wish, I wish I
Speaker 1: had that on the promo. But this girl is so
Speaker 1: good in improv. We did the promo where we were
Speaker 1: at this arena, but it was like a busy for
Speaker 1: four lane street and I said to Dan, wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be funny if, like we start to walk across the street,
Speaker 1: but I make Val carry all my bags and she
Speaker 1: starts to stop all the traffic. Yeah, I did not
Speaker 1: expect her to run in the middle of the street
Speaker 1: on like four lanes of oncoming traffic.
Speaker 4: This girl is going stop, stop, and she's got my bag.
Speaker 1: She puts the bag.
Speaker 4: Don't you know who she is? Come on, this is
Speaker 4: doing an extreme this is gran scene. Hold up, whatever
Speaker 4: you're doing, whatever you're gonna rush for, it can't be
Speaker 4: more important than Francine.
Speaker 1: Oh it's the best. I love that promo to this
Speaker 1: day if I think about it. I left my ass off.
Speaker 1: But he said, you know, with the build up, we
Speaker 1: were friends, we were rivals. We were friends, we were rivals.
Speaker 4: This was to be.
Speaker 1: You had did you at this point take my position?
Speaker 1: And I was trying to get it back.
Speaker 4: I think I was sort of getting too big for
Speaker 4: my breeches, as my grandmother would say. And I think
Speaker 4: I so first of all, that that storyline, if I can,
Speaker 4: if I can expound upon, that was so fun for
Speaker 4: me because it's like, it's not that far off because
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here marking out and and you know, fangirling
Speaker 4: over Fran scene. But it was so much fun, you know.
Speaker 4: I That's why I love wrestling. I love the acting,
Speaker 4: the improv and it was so much fun to just
Speaker 4: fan girl and just you know, be such a whatever
Speaker 4: you need kind of a thing, and with the bags
Speaker 4: and what you know. I was just so in awe,
Speaker 4: which again was not that that off. That was so
Speaker 4: much fun for me. And this I want to say,
Speaker 4: you know, everyone that's watching, please chime in or tweet
Speaker 4: us later or whatever. But I think this was sort
Speaker 4: of like the power was starting to shift that I
Speaker 4: was getting, as it happens in these sort of storylines,
Speaker 4: I was getting a little too much like, oh well,
Speaker 4: maybe I'm on her level now and trying to like
Speaker 4: take control of the company. So it's it's really an
Speaker 4: all about Eve situation. If I can be an old
Speaker 4: school Hollywood fan for a second, right.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, yeah, Because I I think I was
Speaker 1: the general manager and then I lost I don't know
Speaker 1: how the my title was taken from me, and then
Speaker 1: you became the general manager and this match was kind.
Speaker 4: Of the see who was going to get the position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know why we had to be barefoot.
Speaker 1: It's like one of the stipulations was we had to
Speaker 1: be barefoot.
Speaker 4: I have no idea. And you know, we've had so
Speaker 4: many funny conversations. We had it on Gatti you when
Speaker 4: Francine was on, which is such a great episode. Honestly,
Speaker 4: it's hilarious, and we've talked about it other times because
Speaker 4: you know, Mickey was a part of you know, promotions
Speaker 4: like that Lisa too, where you know, the sexual the
Speaker 4: sexuality of it, you know, not not to be devian
Speaker 4: about it, like WW had their own kind of like
Speaker 4: you know, things are a little more adult than we
Speaker 4: would have cared for. But again, no judgment, it's fine,
Speaker 4: But for me, I think they'd wanted to add that
Speaker 4: kind of like sexy element of the barefoot stuff. But again,
Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, was it safer. Probably not.
Speaker 4: We could have lost a toe and there's pedicures ruined.
Speaker 4: But we did our best. Yeah, we did. And and
Speaker 4: one of the best thing that is left down of
Speaker 4: this as well.
Speaker 1: Is your promo with Brian McCarthy in the back, and
Speaker 1: I swear you were nineteen at the time, so still
Speaker 1: very young to be in this cesspool of disgusting this
Speaker 1: and Brian goes as far and I'm watching in horror
Speaker 1: because I literally wanted to jump in and tell him
Speaker 1: get your hands off of her, like I was legit hot. He's,
Speaker 1: you know, examining the el's feet and telling her how
Speaker 1: lovely she is and rubbing her left and the poor
Speaker 1: girl like she's just playing along. But inside I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's gotta be freaking out because I would have been.
Speaker 4: And I'm so glad to you mention that, because honestly,
Speaker 4: and listen, I am. You know, I'm such a feminist.
Speaker 4: I'm such a girl's girl, which is funny because I
Speaker 4: have so many guy friends in wrestling, but truthfully, I am.
Speaker 4: I am a girls girl through and through, and I
Speaker 4: always say with things like that, like I'm a huge
Speaker 4: proponent of the Divas era. I'm a cheerleader for the
Speaker 4: divas no offense, not the serious wrestlers. I'm more of
Speaker 4: a Tory Stacey, you know, Candice kind of an era
Speaker 4: and that was a little extreme punintended, but I will
Speaker 4: say that, but during it, I swear to goodness, And
Speaker 4: this is just me being super truthful because I think
Speaker 4: people look back and go, oh God, were you uncomfortable,
Speaker 4: and like you just said, and I honestly, even back then,
Speaker 4: of course, you know, at thirty six, almost thirty seven
Speaker 4: years old, now I would have gone no if I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: But even then, if I was uncomfortable, I genuinely wouldn't
Speaker 4: have done it. I did not feel uncomfortable. The guy
Speaker 4: wasn't jamm He was so funny. He was so nice, funny.
Speaker 1: But you didn't know ahead of time how touchy he
Speaker 1: was gonna be.
Speaker 4: No. But again, but I'm being super I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to offend anybody. I honestly was just like it got
Speaker 4: like it was. It was funny to me in the
Speaker 4: sense it was just like, I know that this is
Speaker 4: sort of a foot fetishy kind of a thing, and
Speaker 4: I was like, I was fine with it. I really was.
Speaker 4: It was never a thing, even damn call. He was
Speaker 4: always lovely to me. Yeah, And if you look back,
Speaker 4: especially my age, it looks kind of weird. But truthfully,
Speaker 4: I just kind of thought this is I was in character,
Speaker 4: and it was like, yes, it's a foot match. This
Speaker 4: guy's at weirdo, so I think he was portraying a weirdo.
Speaker 4: So I was like, eh, whatever.
Speaker 1: It was perfect and you you did not look uncomfortable
Speaker 1: at all. I was uncomfortable. I was literally getting ready
Speaker 1: to jump in and say, would you get your hands
Speaker 1: off of you big creep, because you know, little bit.
Speaker 4: I would have been like no, I really I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So okay, so here's you. Didn't start from
Speaker 1: the beginning.
Speaker 5: You guys got twenty three minutes.
Speaker 2: Play?
Speaker 1: This is the finish?
Speaker 2: Did I want?
Speaker 4: I won't?
Speaker 1: They all start there? We go, well, how young she
Speaker 1: is though? And tell me that doesn't look like a
Speaker 1: dad trying to pick up a young lovely Oh my god,
Speaker 1: look at him. God, I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 4: I was like, all I'm looking at is I'm going like, okay,
Speaker 4: that's weird. The kissing is weird. And I just I
Speaker 4: just thought I wasn't a character. I thought this guy's
Speaker 4: a weirdo, and That's what I'm dealing with. It's like,
Speaker 4: you know, you did a movie about a foot weirdo.
Speaker 4: Would you do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, as long as as long as people are
Speaker 1: up front and say I'm going to do this, I
Speaker 1: roll with it. But when you don't know what's going on,
Speaker 1: I mean, look your legs up in the air, it's
Speaker 1: like brilliant. Calm down a little bit. Five dollars super
Speaker 1: chat from our fabulous friend Lawn Hi fabulous free scenes.
Speaker 1: So Chad, A question for you, Veil. What was your
Speaker 1: all time favorite X Division movement you witnessed in TNA
Speaker 1: or impact.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, lawn Lah, thank you so much, sweetheart.
Speaker 4: I will tell you that I don't know it's my
Speaker 4: favorite X Division moment, but I remember when the guys
Speaker 4: would when they would build the X and during the
Speaker 4: you know run throughs and stuff, people would be trying
Speaker 4: to Like a guy would come over and just buy
Speaker 4: himself like try to just do moves on it, and
Speaker 4: I would just sit there before the show and go,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Like stop? It just freaked me
Speaker 4: out because it wasn't match time. The Ultimate X matches
Speaker 4: were really amazing. But I if you were ever at
Speaker 4: these shows, sometimes they would pan to me, hopefully not
Speaker 4: too much. But I am such a crier. I'm such
Speaker 4: a worrier that I really really shed a lot of
Speaker 4: tears because those X division matches were so so so dantangerous.
Speaker 4: People that stick out to me, for example, Chris Saban's
Speaker 4: a huge one that I remember doing some amazing moves
Speaker 4: on the Ultimate X. But yeah, Ultimate X is something
Speaker 4: that I will never forget because I don't think anything's
Speaker 4: been done like it and ever since. Then, thank you
Speaker 4: for the question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And they just panned on your feet and
Speaker 1: your feet look really cute.
Speaker 4: Well thanks myself.
Speaker 1: Also they're real, they're real. Okay, good to my feet
Speaker 1: yet yeah my feet I dirtied on purpose but oh okay,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I scuffed them up in the back just too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just to be a little little on the dirty side.
Speaker 4: Brandy, your body is insane, you know, look at me now,
Speaker 4: baby is insane. And I remember first seeing you and
Speaker 4: being like, I just you know what, because you've looked
Speaker 4: different than the girls. You were never like super jacked,
Speaker 4: which no rude, you know, I love all aesthetics are
Speaker 4: all beautiful. But but but but I I liked that
Speaker 4: I loved your look. I just thought it was such
Speaker 4: a ninety supermodel look but with bigger, more ample bosom,
Speaker 4: which I wanted. So yeah, oh look I'm taunting you
Speaker 4: and I'm pointing to my feet. Oh hilarious, there you going, Tony.
Speaker 1: Tony LaRusso five dollars super truck, paying my respects to
Speaker 1: the one and only queen of extreme free scene. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Tony and the wonderful Soulcale. Now, thanks Tony. You're in
Speaker 1: the Charles chip yard as well. Yeah, we'll thank you.
Speaker 1: I used to eat abundantly back then and couldn't gain announce,
Speaker 1: and now I'm made a grape and I gained twenty pounds.
Speaker 4: So I now that's the way of the world. But uh,
Speaker 4: you know how it works.
Speaker 1: It is how it works. But this was this was written.
Speaker 1: This match was written on an airplane the week before
Speaker 1: I wrote it down, and we went the night before
Speaker 1: to the arena, you and I and I think we
Speaker 1: were there for about two hours and we just walked
Speaker 1: through it like I don't have twenty five dollars.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that? I said? For some reason, somebody
Speaker 4: asked me about actually wrestling, and I was like, first
Speaker 4: of all, I didn't enjoy it. I didn't I'm not
Speaker 4: a physical you think of someone's background. I'm not a
Speaker 4: physical athletic person. I was homeschool never did pe never
Speaker 4: did a barely pe never did like sports. I just
Speaker 4: I have an abhorrence to it. I don't like it.
Speaker 4: Ire is like a peach. And I did tell you
Speaker 4: that I could not, for the effing life of me,
Speaker 4: ever take a DDT, even in ring divis and things
Speaker 4: that I did without hitting my head. And I very
Speaker 4: often in matches I would cry. I'm a crier. I
Speaker 4: just I would get hurt and I did not because
Speaker 4: I'm so hurt. I don't know. I just I have
Speaker 4: like a I'm a very sensitive person, and especially when
Speaker 4: I would hit my head, I would just cry.
Speaker 1: Mickey Di says, I refuse to believe Veill doesn't wrestle.
Speaker 4: Love you, Mickey d all the way in Australia, Ozzy
Speaker 4: Azzy Azzy. She's wrestling right here, and look how wonderful
Speaker 4: she's doing. I'm trying. That was okay, right, Look at that.
Speaker 4: This was not bad.
Speaker 1: This was not a bad map.
Speaker 4: I really don't think it is for anything. No, baby,
Speaker 4: this is like Rocky training. I don't know that Tommy
Speaker 4: Gun horrible kid in Rocky five, like this is that's
Speaker 4: what that is. That's what you're watching right now. You
Speaker 4: took to this very quickly. I've said that so many times.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, we're not This isn't Malenko and Guerrero.
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to admit it. But this wasn't
Speaker 1: bad for what it was. We were expanding the story,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that's what I had done with it because it
Speaker 4: was a story.
Speaker 1: It was a part of the storyline. Yeah. Oh, and
Speaker 1: then we had the smoke come down and ODB come down,
Speaker 1: and oh it was perfect. It was fun.
Speaker 4: And listen all that like thick ass hair of mine
Speaker 4: really helps in beautiful. I will say that.
Speaker 1: Your hair was beautiful. And I didn't bother doomline night evening,
Speaker 1: so that yeah, there we go. There we go. Now
Speaker 1: you you you need to realize that hold on the
Speaker 1: PWL right, everybody stop. The PWO is here. They never
Speaker 1: had the same women in the p w L every month.
Speaker 1: It varied.
Speaker 4: Is that Bobcat? Yes, it's Oh my god, what a
Speaker 4: sweety pie. I loved her.
Speaker 1: I just looked to her.
Speaker 4: Can you tell her? I love her so much? She
Speaker 4: was and let me tell you my tenure in w
Speaker 4: ew All Women, And I'm telling you, I cannot remember one, honestly,
Speaker 4: one moment where someone was rude to me or condescending, honestly,
Speaker 4: and I have moments of that in other companies. W
Speaker 4: ew Never, it was such a sisterhood and being such
Speaker 4: a girl's girl again, I mean, everyone was such fun
Speaker 4: and took such great care of each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no arguments. It was just a party. It was
Speaker 1: just a party. And I think you and I just
Speaker 1: roomed together once. I remember you and I roomed together
Speaker 1: one time, but I don't know if that's because I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: So it's it's so funny for me to see myself, okay,
Speaker 4: and I'm actually I'm actually kind of proud here, but
Speaker 4: it's so weird for me to see myself not an
Speaker 4: athletic person like literally look at me and like literally
Speaker 4: do things. And I was taking you and I kind
Speaker 4: of went like this, like come on, like that's just
Speaker 4: not in my nature. It's just not me.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
Speaker 4: Tory Wilson always said that because I'm such a mark
Speaker 4: for her. She always said like even Stacy, she said,
Speaker 4: would get like more into the punches and get like aggressive,
Speaker 4: and Tory was just like, I feel bad. She never
Speaker 4: had a bone in her body that felt right about it.
Speaker 4: I really related to that. I mean not entirely, but
Speaker 4: like very much more so to the Tory side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where the acting ability comes in, and
Speaker 1: you you just can't look at you. You can't tell oh,
Speaker 1: in a stunner, we were what are doing? You're you're
Speaker 1: you're kicking the shoot out of me?
Speaker 4: Is what you Oh my god. I wish. I don't
Speaker 4: know if my husband's ever seen this, but I would
Speaker 4: love him too, because he would be effing shop hang on, ref.
Speaker 1: Distraction, that's right, this smoke that lousy. You know he
Speaker 1: does cosplay now player, Yeah, he goes. The last time
Speaker 1: I saw him, he was doing he was this big,
Speaker 1: big monster at a convention that I was at. He
Speaker 1: starts talking to me and I and I and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know who I am? And then when he showed me,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's smoke.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Oh my god. Yeah, what a celebrity
Speaker 4: cameo that would have been tell me about it. But
Speaker 4: now you're going to the top up just doing what
Speaker 4: I think is correct.
Speaker 1: Look at her, amazing.
Speaker 4: I can't even believe myself is this it is this different?
Speaker 1: Look at that butt?
Speaker 4: Oh no, come on, see, Louise, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this is great, absolutely great.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 1: I said, you remember what I told you doing this?
Speaker 1: You remember what I said, val put those hands up. Yes,
Speaker 1: beautiful face and put those hands up.
Speaker 4: And I remember people were like, you took a chair
Speaker 4: shot to the face, and I'm like, I did. That's
Speaker 4: a that's a badge of honor. Thanks to you, miss Francie.
Speaker 1: It's great you didn't complain. This is not bad, Chad.
Speaker 1: Do you think this was bad for somebody that wrestled
Speaker 1: the day in her life? Ever?
Speaker 2: No, never.
Speaker 3: I think when people hear the match, they think they're
Speaker 3: just gonna see, you know, the spectacle, and they're gonna
Speaker 3: hear the gimmick and you get the wrestling, and I
Speaker 3: don't think they expect.
Speaker 1: That this was You were deadweight on that.
Speaker 4: By the way, I believe you, it looked it was
Speaker 4: a little I think, Franny, do you agree that. I
Speaker 4: think because it was barefoot in a weird way, well,
Speaker 4: in an obvious way, it took away from the fact
Speaker 4: that it was a one on one match that people
Speaker 4: people know this match. But all they know is I'm
Speaker 4: gonna look up the Barefoot match. They don't actually think
Speaker 4: of it as being a match. And now that I'm
Speaker 4: watching it back, I'm even more proud of us than
Speaker 4: I remembered. It had moves.
Speaker 1: I mean, we did, we wrestled. It was wrestling. It
Speaker 1: wasn't I don't think it could be considered like a
Speaker 1: brown penny match or a fluff match. There was wrestling involved.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm so proud of you, because you
Speaker 1: you didn't have a lot of experience, you know, and
Speaker 1: just going over it a couple of times the night
Speaker 1: before you did great.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. I appreciate you so much. Thank you
Speaker 4: so much, And honestly, it was it was fun. I'm
Speaker 4: very proud of this match. And again people bring it
Speaker 4: up to me all the time, and I think it's
Speaker 4: because of the Barefoot, which is fine. And again, if
Speaker 4: you like what you like, I'm not here to judge.
Speaker 4: Good for you. Thank you, appreciate the compliment of the feat.
Speaker 4: Thank you. But like you said, the athleticism that we
Speaker 4: that we tried to portray and the story that we
Speaker 4: tried to tell, I think we did a great job.
Speaker 4: But I'm so proud of us. Honestly, yes, I'm proud
Speaker 4: of this match. This was a good time. Angela agrees.
Speaker 1: She says, I do not have one athletic bone in
Speaker 1: my body. And she also brings this like Peach, you're
Speaker 1: not alone, veil, and she's also a friend of.
Speaker 4: Tory and Stacey.
Speaker 1: Angela cher Angela's great love you, thank you doll. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was fun. W E W. As much as people
Speaker 1: criticize it or make fun of it, like you said,
Speaker 1: the camaraderie was there. We never thought everybody got along.
Speaker 1: Everybody just went out there and had a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved going in every month for
Speaker 1: that company. I told Dean, if we could do this
Speaker 1: every week, it would be wonderful.
Speaker 4: And I almost wish they had done Granted again, you know,
Speaker 4: Compubus had well, a lot of us had an issue
Speaker 4: with kind of like not being told so much about
Speaker 4: the adult side of things. Were we involved in that, No,
Speaker 4: but you know, having it spliced in that was kind
Speaker 4: of annoying. But there were some really great moments there.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of great talent there, and like you said,
Speaker 4: if we could have done it as if it was
Speaker 4: like a TV taping situation or filmed like every two
Speaker 4: weeks or like even once a month and done like
Speaker 4: some TV tapings and backstage promos. They spent so much
Speaker 4: time and it's just something I really feel like is
Speaker 4: lacking and independent wrestling nowadays where WEW whether you liked
Speaker 4: it or not, or whether you're not familiar with it,
Speaker 4: if you go back and watch, they were very heavy
Speaker 4: on storylines, backstage promos, vignettes and like building characters, and
Speaker 4: that's something which is funny you wouldn't think people don't
Speaker 4: think of it for that reason. Same thing with the
Speaker 4: Barefoot match. I think, oh, barefoot women's wrestling, it's a
Speaker 4: bit hokey, but actually at the core of it, it
Speaker 4: was really really a little well quite before it's time.
Speaker 1: I think, I agree with you, and I feel like
Speaker 1: because of the porn aspect, because without that we didn't
Speaker 1: have the slot right, the pay per view slot, we
Speaker 1: had to incorporate the pornography, and that's the only reason
Speaker 1: why that was included in it. So Michael's Wrestling Channel
Speaker 1: ten dollars, super Chat high Francine, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: you wrestled, so Calvell. I remember meeting you virtually on
Speaker 1: The Asylum last year.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Michael's Wrestling Channel, cheers to you. I love
Speaker 4: the Asylum guys as well. They're fabulous, aren't they friends.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And Michael, you got two entries into the
Speaker 1: Charles Chipyards.
Speaker 3: I think that's the cool part about it. It's almost
Speaker 3: like the bait and switch. You expected to just be like,
Speaker 3: you know, oh, it's supposed to be the Barefoot is
Speaker 3: the Cell. But then you guys actually put together a
Speaker 3: good match with a little psychology and you actually.
Speaker 2: Have some moves in it. Then you know, kept the
Speaker 2: match going pretty well. So kudos to what I was.
Speaker 1: Going to say is I think we got a lot
Speaker 1: of slack because it was kind of a running joke
Speaker 1: in the industry. If you look at the women.
Speaker 4: That I don't want.
Speaker 1: To say manipulated that that's not the word I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. A lot of those women were told that
Speaker 1: they needed like sexy names, they needed to.
Speaker 4: Dress a certain way.
Speaker 1: Like when I went in there, they weren't going to
Speaker 1: tell me my name was going to be something with
Speaker 1: hoe in it, or you know, everybody everyone girl was
Speaker 1: a hoe Like. It was like, you know, you had
Speaker 1: to be a schoolgirl, or you had to dance on
Speaker 1: a pole or you had to do so. I feel
Speaker 1: like in one aspect you had the legitimate workers, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then on the other side, it was like the
Speaker 1: poorn girls or the strippers that really didn't get the wrestling,
Speaker 1: but we needed them because they added that sex appeal
Speaker 1: that we weren't going to give them because we were
Speaker 1: the wrestlers, you know what I mean. Like it had
Speaker 1: but it had a good combination of both. But when
Speaker 1: people watch that, they don't look at the good wrestling part.
Speaker 1: They look at that other side and that's.
Speaker 4: All they're remembering. Yeah, and I think again, you know,
Speaker 4: being being a feminist and being a girl's girl, like
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with being in the adult industry or
Speaker 4: being a stripper. That's all fantastic and you know, up
Speaker 4: to your judgment, but you know, for that reason, it
Speaker 4: was a bit confusing where there were actual wrestlers, girls
Speaker 4: like me who weren't really wrestlers but wanted to be,
Speaker 4: you know, more on the independent scene as managers or
Speaker 4: you know, people that talked whatever, but then incorporating people
Speaker 4: that really and that's really not on them either, Like
Speaker 4: you know, somebody in the adult industry or in the
Speaker 4: you know, stripper industry, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: For lack of a better term, I should say, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know exotic cancer. It really wasn't on them
Speaker 4: that they didn't know what to do or they didn't
Speaker 4: understand wrestling, because they're coming from nowhere. I'll give you
Speaker 4: an example for example, in TENA wrestling. I always call
Speaker 4: it that impact wrestling. They weren't you know, in exotic
Speaker 4: dancers or in the adult industry per se, but they
Speaker 4: were models and they would come in and they would
Speaker 4: know who Rick Flair was, and some of the girls,
Speaker 4: only a few, but some of a select few would go, well,
Speaker 4: you know, they don't know who the hell were wrestling,
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, But as models, you get hired
Speaker 4: to do all kinds of things from an agency, and
Speaker 4: you know, that's not their fault. As long as they
Speaker 4: come in. They're nice, they introduce themselves, they're respectful, they're
Speaker 4: not bitches about things, they're not socially rude. Fine, I've
Speaker 4: done as a model. I was hired to do indie
Speaker 4: car you know, Daytona five hundred type stuff. I didn't
Speaker 4: know the sport, but I was hired to be there,
Speaker 4: and I showed respect to the sport and said I'm
Speaker 4: here to learn and I'm here to promote the brand,
Speaker 4: and there you go. It's not that different. So for
Speaker 4: some reason, I think because wrestling is such an inclusive thing,
Speaker 4: which in a way is great. In another way, it's
Speaker 4: like we sometimes shun people outside of the business, Whereas,
Speaker 4: if you think about it, a lot of girls that
Speaker 4: are now hugely famous, for example, Debasearch girls had nothing
Speaker 4: to do with rust and they were models. Hello Bella Twins,
Speaker 4: Christie Maria, Right, And I don't know if I let
Speaker 4: any of them actually like wrestling. My point is they
Speaker 4: were not wrestling girls who were killing it on the
Speaker 4: indies for years. Right? Are we gonna hold it against
Speaker 4: them that they didn't know the business until they started?
Speaker 4: Now look at them, they're doing amazing things. So you
Speaker 4: got to give people a chance, whether it's girls or guys.
Speaker 4: You got to just go listen. As long as they're
Speaker 4: there and they're respectful, they're coming from a good place
Speaker 4: in their heart to respect the business. Let's give them
Speaker 4: a damn chance, can't we. That's so hard give them
Speaker 4: a chance. But they also need to want to learn. Yes,
Speaker 4: And I've.
Speaker 1: Seen a lot of girls not even take the time
Speaker 1: to like you did you You went back and you studied, right.
Speaker 1: I used to study Sherry Martel because I loved Sherry
Speaker 1: like she she was like everything to me. But you know,
Speaker 1: we we love the business, so we study the craft.
Speaker 1: If I'm a model and I get a phone call, hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go on TNA wrestling, and you know you're
Speaker 1: you're going to do this whatever, in my mind, I
Speaker 1: need to go and find some T and A wrestling
Speaker 1: tapes and kind of studying. No, And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you have to go back to the nineteen fifties and
Speaker 1: you know, old school, but know what's going on, because
Speaker 1: if you don't, the higher ups are going to take
Speaker 1: that as you don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what you do with any any industry. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I always say do your homework is the biggest thing.
Speaker 4: I say, do your homework. And you know, you don't
Speaker 4: want to be even like me doing comic cons and
Speaker 4: interviewing people if I don't do my little homework of
Speaker 4: someone's career, and it could be you know, I'm doing
Speaker 4: you know twelve. I think this weekend at Comic con
Speaker 4: I made a I can't listen. I can't have seen
Speaker 4: every movie and TV show twelve casts are in, right,
Speaker 4: but I have to do my homework and be as
Speaker 4: respectful as I can be and try to do my
Speaker 4: homework and whatever. And when they don't put in the work,
Speaker 4: I agree with you for it. That's when it gets insulting.
Speaker 4: And I think that's how you read out the weak
Speaker 4: ones in the herd, right, because you can tell when
Speaker 4: someone just be asking to be there because they want
Speaker 4: to be on TV, or the girls who are like listen,
Speaker 4: I really have respect for this business. Lisa talks about
Speaker 4: all the time how she was in the fitness world
Speaker 4: and she didn't know wrestling until she was brought in
Speaker 4: and then she put in I mean put her whole
Speaker 4: heart and soul into it. And now look, she's one
Speaker 4: of the most respected influential women in wrestling ever.
Speaker 1: She is. And I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Our friend, Vinnie, hope you are all having a wonderful week. Vinnie,
Speaker 1: We love you two in the Chilian ship jar for you, Vinnie.
Speaker 4: Val you mentioned you were in TNA. How many years
Speaker 4: was there for? Nine years?
Speaker 1: Nine years?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 1: And you I watch you and your interviews. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: amazed at how fluent you are with your questions and
Speaker 1: your demean You're You're wonderful at it. This something that
Speaker 1: you always wanted to do, like progress from wrestling to
Speaker 1: just doing like this interviewing because you are really really
Speaker 1: good and I'm not just blowing smoke. I watch you
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, my god, it's it's just it
Speaker 1: rolls off the tongue. You look so comfortable with these people.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really really nice to watch you in that realm,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's like the nicest compient ever. Thank
Speaker 4: you so much. You know, I think when I was
Speaker 4: in wrestling, when I was about eleven twelve, watching it
Speaker 4: and like all I wanted to do was be a
Speaker 4: wrestling manager and being wrestling. And then when I kind
Speaker 4: of got into wrestling, and then like say I got
Speaker 4: you know, signed in about two thousand and four with
Speaker 4: Impact Wrestling, I was, you know, ring girls, and I thought, okay,
Speaker 4: well I just want to be a manager all this stuff,
Speaker 4: So I really wasn't. I always knew I wanted to
Speaker 4: be kind of more of the talking person and the
Speaker 4: manager side, so like the talking but not really a
Speaker 4: physical wrestler. But as far as the interviews and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, I mean I always was like, if you
Speaker 4: think about it, I was always kind of doing, like,
Speaker 4: you know, filming myself and videos, and here I am
Speaker 4: doing movies. I was more of the acting side. But
Speaker 4: then as far as the presenter host side, I started
Speaker 4: to get thank you Scott, Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, super Chad, what's up? Chat for you? Scenes so
Speaker 1: calvill I enjoyed the Jay and sonje story back in
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and TNA, oh.
Speaker 4: My god, thank you so much, Scott. Cheers to Scott,
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. By the way, goatcha VMO.
Speaker 1: Just a little quick little pub we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: put all your projects over. I just can I just
Speaker 1: read babies? Yeah, okay, we're gonna answer this next. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Sable do you think? Can you
Speaker 1: keep that up?
Speaker 4: Because I want to answer that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rumor for turning down the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: is true. I would love to see her in the
Speaker 1: whole thing.
Speaker 4: Continue and then we'll just to just to finish my
Speaker 4: long with an answer there. Basically, I think, you know,
Speaker 4: after my storyline with Jay and Sandy, which by the way,
Speaker 4: he was so sweet and mentioned that thank you so much.
Speaker 4: I kind of thought, okay, so you know, Jay, Lethal
Speaker 4: and Sandre are now out of Impact Wrestling. I want
Speaker 4: to have longevity in the business, so being a ring
Speaker 4: girl that that's not gonna be a thing forever. And
Speaker 4: then people like Jeremy Borash, David Sahati and Mike Weber
Speaker 4: and Impact Wrestling were like, especially Mike Weber actually letting
Speaker 4: me like write my own scripts, create my own backstage car,
Speaker 4: interview wrestlers, all these things, and that's what I really went,
Speaker 4: this is this is what I want to do. Like,
Speaker 4: that's really that's where I get my it just feels
Speaker 4: like me to be a host, to be an interviewer.
Speaker 4: And then now you know, I haven't related too much
Speaker 4: outside of wrestling, which you know, to wrestling's credit, I'm
Speaker 4: thrilled to say that. When I moved to England, I
Speaker 4: kind of thought, okay, twenty thirteen or so, I thought, okay,
Speaker 4: so I'll transition outside of wrestling. Then I got a
Speaker 4: great job on ITV, one of the biggest networks here
Speaker 4: in England, and that was a great thing that was
Speaker 4: wrestling commentary on WS World of Sport Wrestling. Then I
Speaker 4: kept getting wrestling bookings. Now I do a lot of
Speaker 4: comic cons as well, which the comic cons are fun.
Speaker 4: I hate to say it, but because it's outside of wrestling,
Speaker 4: I'm interviewing celebrities, it's totally not They don't know who's
Speaker 4: so cal not that anyone would, but who's so cal Vallais.
Speaker 4: They don't care about wrestling, and that for me is
Speaker 4: really rewarding because it's like me just as a skilled interviewer,
Speaker 4: and that's where I find a lot of pride doing that.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 1: How did you when you moved to England, right and
Speaker 1: you get that first big gig? Do you have like
Speaker 1: a sizzle reel.
Speaker 4: That you put out there and you send out.
Speaker 1: To you do?
Speaker 4: I sure do? And you know what, I edit it myself. Okay,
Speaker 4: I pull my own clips, I edit it. I do
Speaker 4: all the transitions. I edit gaw TV. By the way,
Speaker 4: I have taught myself over the years. When I was
Speaker 4: even before in wrestling, I would like do like pretend
Speaker 4: movie previews. I've really My mom used to sort of
Speaker 4: get on me about like, gosh, you're on the computer
Speaker 4: all the time you're just tinkering around. I was teaching
Speaker 4: myself web design and video editing skills little antiquated now
Speaker 4: because things move so fast. But honestly, I edit gaul,
Speaker 4: I edit my own reel. I still, you know, update
Speaker 4: my reel all the time. And I had those those
Speaker 4: things ready to go. The ws I TV thing again,
Speaker 4: it TV I would equate to like an NBC in America.
Speaker 4: It's it's a very big network here, and it was.
Speaker 4: It was a huge deal, and I kind of got that.
Speaker 4: I think, I'm not even sure how they even I'm
Speaker 4: trying to think how they even found me.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess just from I don't know. I
Speaker 4: really don't remember. But then comic cons, you know, I
Speaker 4: was always signing at the comic cons by my you know,
Speaker 4: just signing with well with wrestlers, but on my little
Speaker 4: table on myself, like hey, here's a photo whatever. And
Speaker 4: I said it to people like, hey, this is fun,
Speaker 4: but like, can I do more? I'd like to do
Speaker 4: like social media video? It's can I do like a
Speaker 4: stand up? And sometimes I would even ask and I
Speaker 4: would film myself like hey, guys, it's so cal that
Speaker 4: I'll welcome to like comic cod London. We have this,
Speaker 4: this and that, wait make sure you see this? And
Speaker 4: I just kept filming myself, doing these things with myself
Speaker 4: and just saying hey, can you use this? And I
Speaker 4: just kept you know, giving them footage and stuff and
Speaker 4: saying like, can I do more? And that parlayed into
Speaker 4: now a full time We have fifteen shows a year
Speaker 4: with Monopoly Event, who I'm full time with as their
Speaker 4: exclusive host. I love it. They're like, yeah, so, I
Speaker 4: honestly don't. If there's any advice here, don't wait for
Speaker 4: someone to go hey, can just do it? Film yourself.
Speaker 4: There's never too much content. You're never being silly by
Speaker 4: filming yourself. You can never be posting too much. Just
Speaker 4: do it, bro, and someone's gonna take your footage and go, wow,
Speaker 4: we could really use this girl and they will. Or guy,
Speaker 4: I see I love oh, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that about you. I'll let's answer this sable question.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yes, so baby says, what your thoughts on stable? What
Speaker 4: do you think the room for turning down Hall of Fame? Okay,
Speaker 4: so I have not I've heard a rumor that she
Speaker 4: turned down Hall of Fame. I don't believe. I don't
Speaker 4: know that that's true. I would be very surprised if
Speaker 4: that's true. I would be very disappointed if that's true.
Speaker 4: I have now but in this huge and Franny you
Speaker 4: will back me up this huge rigmarole on Twitter for
Speaker 4: the last two days. First of all, I have Oscars
Speaker 4: red carpet comments that people are taking way out of proportion,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, she was like, I never like make sense.
Speaker 1: I love your when you comment about these outfits.
Speaker 4: I just cannot. But I'm like, I hope people know that,
Speaker 4: Like I mean, it's all in good fun. Like you know,
Speaker 4: if someone comes at me and goes, you make my dress,
Speaker 4: I'm like, well I did, but I think you're great,
Speaker 4: but you're dress no offense. And the listen, the older
Speaker 4: I get, the more I'm like, I have to stop
Speaker 4: being so well was she offended? Like it's all in
Speaker 4: good fun. I'm always like, she's a beauty, but her
Speaker 4: fire her stylist right anyway, In that same vein uh,
Speaker 4: someone I was already into the Oscars, you know, hoopla,
Speaker 4: and then someone said Stacy Keebler is going to be
Speaker 4: inducted in the Hall of Fame, and I went, they said,
Speaker 4: what do you think Valin. I was like, well, that's
Speaker 4: a whole other conversation. I was like, that's a bit
Speaker 4: odd because there are major more influenced and listen, I
Speaker 4: am a state come on girl with the legs, Stacy Torri.
Speaker 4: Those are my people. That's who I wanted to be.
Speaker 4: But wrestling overall, someone like Lisa number one, well no,
Speaker 4: well there's no Lisa. You know, Mickey, there are girls
Speaker 4: that should I mean, it just kills me should be
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame way before. Stacy like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's a timeline thing. Stacy like, it's not a timeline thing.
Speaker 4: It's a hierarchy thing. And not because wrestlers are so
Speaker 4: much more important to managers. It's just that, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: a Victoria or a Mickey James, for God's sake, are
Speaker 4: not on the same level as a Stacy Keeler. I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to put myself into Stacy Keeler's hierarchy because
Speaker 4: I'm not Stacy Keeler. I'm just saying Impact wrestling, for example,
Speaker 4: Action when they come over to make action figures, they
Speaker 4: make action figures of Gail Kim and Awesome Cang and
Speaker 4: those girls wire laying their bodies on the line, and
Speaker 4: they are prominent, most featured girls. Right then you have
Speaker 4: the managers and whatever else, and maybe the ring girls
Speaker 4: and the announcers. Hello here I am. I would be
Speaker 4: horrified if I was in the Hall of Fame before
Speaker 4: a Gail Kim or before a awesome cong Who the
Speaker 4: hell am I? And Stacy did wrestle on again? Biggest
Speaker 4: Stacy fan ever? Obsessed used to copy her outfits? For
Speaker 4: God's sake? What the hierarchy makes no effing sense. That
Speaker 4: is Stacy Keebler as influential as she was to a Victoria.
Speaker 4: Ask any female wrestler in this business if they think
Speaker 4: Stacy should be inducted before Victoria or a Mickey James.
Speaker 4: Sorry not sorry. It doesn't make fine sense. And whoever's
Speaker 4: making those decisions, you better check yourself before you wreck
Speaker 4: yourself everybody off, including myself. And that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: And I agree with you one hundred percent on who
Speaker 3: should go in first, But I think they would look
Speaker 3: at it from a public relations point of you, and
Speaker 3: they would probably grab Stacy to throw her on Good
Speaker 3: Morning to America because he's been on Dancing with the stars,
Speaker 3: and she's been one, and that's exactly easy for.
Speaker 4: Them because it's because she dated George Clooney and she
Speaker 4: was in a few more articles. Sorry not sorry. This
Speaker 4: is a wrestling Hall of Fame where wrestling should read
Speaker 4: the popularity and the influential people in wrestling should take precedence,
Speaker 4: and for that reason, I think she should be in
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. Great, but because they're ignoring so
Speaker 4: many people. By the way, do you want to you
Speaker 4: want to pull the China card that's also messed up.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot poll. Okay,
Speaker 4: don Marie, Francy Mickey, James, Lisa Marie. These are people
Speaker 4: that you go, are you joking? But let's put Stacey
Speaker 4: Keepler in. If you don't see, if you don't see
Speaker 4: the wrong idea of that, I generally don't want to
Speaker 4: tell you. And again say one more time for the
Speaker 4: people that are like good, like Stacy. Stacy to sound rude,
Speaker 4: but Stacy meant more to me than the serious wrestlers.
Speaker 4: That was who I was influenced more by. But I'm
Speaker 4: in the minority. I'm not a wrestler in wrestling that
Speaker 4: wanted to be the most popular, you know, the Trish
Speaker 4: the lead is the and that's fine. We have to
Speaker 4: be able to take a little bit of a back
Speaker 4: seat to the people like Victoria and Mickey and and
Speaker 4: Gail and Awesome Kong and trishan leda period. And again
Speaker 4: that's a hierarchy thing, and that's okay. We're secondary, that's
Speaker 4: all right, that's how it should be. We're supporting actresses,
Speaker 4: and I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3: This Stable thing, though, has been around for years where
Speaker 3: she's turned it down. This isn't the first time that rumors.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true or not, but I
Speaker 4: wouldn't put Sable again in that supporting actress category. No
Speaker 4: offense that Sable sort of again, no offense more than
Speaker 4: Stacy really spanned the more of the total package THINGA
Speaker 4: Sable was a more serious wrestler. Sable was in it
Speaker 4: in a more total package kind of a way and
Speaker 4: was way no offense, way more influential and iconic than
Speaker 4: Stacy Keebler. So for that reason, Sable, in my eyes,
Speaker 4: again it's my opinion, would be way more than a
Speaker 4: Stacy Keeler. Again, I want them all to be in
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. But it's odd to me that again,
Speaker 4: maybe Sable is turning it down. I don't know. I
Speaker 4: don't know her. It ever better in my life. I
Speaker 4: would love to, but the hierarchy should not be Stacy Keebler,
Speaker 4: Lisa Marie Verreen Mickey, like, what are we doing? Whose
Speaker 4: decisions are these? And why are you not on the street.
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Well, you're allowed your opinion said, don't
Speaker 1: let anybody tell you you're not.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing, And that's why Twitter is so weird,
Speaker 4: because I try to really really be nice about like
Speaker 4: I try to reiterate, I'm a Stacy fan. I've been
Speaker 4: as stan if you want to call it that. The
Speaker 4: kids say for divas more than anybody. But I still
Speaker 4: believe that for her to be inducted before these women
Speaker 4: I just mentioned is just preposterous.
Speaker 1: I just always said the Hall of Fame, they put
Speaker 1: in who they want, and they just put in who
Speaker 1: they want. It's it's just who will draw the most
Speaker 1: ticket sales, who will make them the most money.
Speaker 3: Woke up thinking of that morning that that's who could
Speaker 3: Donald Trump in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Somebody just came in.
Speaker 4: No argument and Mozel top. I have no idea what
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 1: The celebrity it's just like sin like they're lobbying, like
Speaker 1: the fans. They want Cindy Lauper in there for the
Speaker 1: celebrity wing. No, there's a celebrity wing.
Speaker 4: Cindy did a lot.
Speaker 1: Cindy, well she did, she did a lot back in
Speaker 1: the No.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I like, I'm talking to celebrity wing. Is weird
Speaker 4: to me, Cindy Lauper, I believe it's a good addition.
Speaker 4: Is weird to me?
Speaker 1: It's it's the celebrity wing. Yeah, But like when you like,
Speaker 1: if you talk to a lot of the boys, they
Speaker 1: make fun of the Hall of Fame. They're like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't really matter. Like a lot of them
Speaker 1: look at it as a payday, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's just the payday.
Speaker 4: Because I feel like a lot of people that I've
Speaker 4: met that are in the Hall of Fame really mention
Speaker 4: it a lot and really show that ring off a lot.
Speaker 1: Well they do because their price just went off once you.
Speaker 4: And that's another argument I had on Twitter where somebody said, like, oh,
Speaker 4: somebody said something about how well they gave Victoria enough.
Speaker 4: They gave her all these championships, and I said, if
Speaker 4: you think a champion championships thrown at Victoria, by the way,
Speaker 4: that's a whole of the conversation. If you think that
Speaker 4: equates to the respect and the like you said, let's
Speaker 4: just be honest, like the bump up and you know
Speaker 4: status level, right, the respect from your peers and the
Speaker 4: respect from the fans whatever. If you think championships equal
Speaker 4: the respect that Hall of Fame gets, I don't know
Speaker 4: what to tell you. That's just not a thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I don't know. Everybody has different opinions
Speaker 1: on things, and you most certainly are early on your opinion.
Speaker 1: I've had a week with fighting with I'm not fighting
Speaker 1: with fans, but I've gotten so much hate this week.
Speaker 1: Out of my thirty years in the business, I have
Speaker 1: never read comments like I did. Right about it a
Speaker 1: little later, but I mean this, fans are brutal and
Speaker 1: they'll let you know.
Speaker 4: Does it make you want to share your opinion less?
Speaker 4: Because I think the older I get, I'm like, I
Speaker 4: just listen, I have conviction and everything I say. I
Speaker 4: went back and I looked at those Stacy Keebler and
Speaker 4: Lisa tweets, and I was like, I if Stacey Keebler
Speaker 4: was sat with me at a dinner one on one,
Speaker 4: I would say exactly what I said. And again, I'm
Speaker 4: someone who was the biggest Stacy fan. I mean, I
Speaker 4: could tell you every ALPHI she's ever worn without sounding rude.
Speaker 4: I love Lisa and Mickey. I didn't want to be them.
Speaker 4: I wanted to be Stacy trying to say to people
Speaker 4: I'm the biggest managerial diva. I love the gravy matches
Speaker 4: and Lebron panties. I wish they'd come back. I'd be
Speaker 4: in them. But I swear to goodness, swear to RuPaul,
Speaker 4: excuse my language. I love those girls. But I still
Speaker 4: just I have conviction and what I say. And so Franny,
Speaker 4: when you're tweeting, it's it's hard, right because I have
Speaker 4: to like carefully curate every tweet. But I look back
Speaker 4: and I go, am I gonna regret this tweet? No,
Speaker 4: if I'm not going to regret it, I will then
Speaker 4: post it and go I'm done happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I I bite my tongue a lot. I don't
Speaker 1: share certain things because you lose half your fan base
Speaker 1: if you do. So I just keep my mouth shut.
Speaker 1: But you know, sir, I'm having trouble with my because
Speaker 1: I just trademarked Queen of Extremes. So now I'm getting
Speaker 1: a bunch of hate for that.
Speaker 4: I've heard about this. Can you give me a rundown.
Speaker 1: In a nutshell? Uh? You know they're they're they're using
Speaker 1: it now. For I believe Lida and I love Amy.
Speaker 1: I love Amy, I known her forever. She's you know,
Speaker 1: great talent, beautiful girl. Uh, they're uh, they're calling her that.
Speaker 1: Corey Graves mentioned it in commentary. So my lawyer a
Speaker 1: while ago put a trademark in for me. Why because
Speaker 1: now it's to the point where if they're going to
Speaker 1: keep using it, I don't want them to tell me
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 4: Right, that's fair. That's fair again Leada fan as well?
Speaker 4: You know who love's not a Leida fan? Come on, exactly,
Speaker 4: that's something you here's an example too, first Lady of Wrestling.
Speaker 4: We had Missy Hyatt on gaut TV tonight. People have
Speaker 4: tried to use that, and it's like something that I
Speaker 4: called myself the Princess of pro wrestling. I never really
Speaker 4: it wasn't a thing. But if somebody else used it,
Speaker 4: for me, it wasn't used on TV, no big deal.
Speaker 4: But if it was used on TV for years like
Speaker 4: yours was, I think that's totally fair to be, you know,
Speaker 4: protective of a name that you curated yourself. I've only
Speaker 4: met Amy one time. She seemed lovely, but and I
Speaker 4: know that you probably have so much respect for I
Speaker 4: think that's fine for you to kind of stake your claim.
Speaker 4: You were in the business for years, You've proven yourself,
Speaker 4: my god, put your body, neck, head, my god, life
Speaker 4: on the line for this title. So for me, I
Speaker 4: I back you, girl, I get it. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 4: not her, no, no, no more so.
Speaker 1: Than I believe. And they've called Stephan McMahon that lived
Speaker 1: Morgan recently is calling herself that, and my lawyers like, no,
Speaker 1: you're it's trademarked. You know you can't. And so my
Speaker 1: big thing. So I'm getting a ton of hate right
Speaker 1: now online.
Speaker 4: Do you do you get that? Like, for example, what
Speaker 4: you just said, it's not about her specifically, But that's
Speaker 4: that's what killed me about the Stacy thing. And I
Speaker 4: was like, I love Stacey. It's like it's like here,
Speaker 4: here's a here's a very feminist patriarchical question in transit right,
Speaker 4: it's pitting women against women. So instead of the actual subject,
Speaker 4: they're trying to make it that you, Francine, have an
Speaker 4: issue with Leita slash Amy personally and has nothing to
Speaker 4: do with that. And I think you were, like I
Speaker 4: said about Stacy, if you sit down with her, I
Speaker 4: bet you could go girl and she would go, oh,
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the company, and I you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want them to one day just you know, I open
Speaker 1: my mail and there's a cease and desist because I've
Speaker 1: been using it almost three decades now, so you really
Speaker 1: can't tell me not to, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I said that we we trademarked it, and now
Speaker 1: I'm getting hate and like, you know, like really nasty
Speaker 1: now the younger than the younger generation out there, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Just slave then you know, oh, you're it's a money grab.
Speaker 1: You think I'm not going to get a dying You
Speaker 1: know you're not going to get any money from this.
Speaker 1: I just want to use that name. You know, whether
Speaker 1: I whether I sign one more day or I do
Speaker 1: this for ten more years, I don't know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the scary thing about social media. One
Speaker 4: time I said I liked or didn't like. I think
Speaker 4: I said I liked something about K pop. I don't
Speaker 4: know anything about K pop. I think I saw someone's
Speaker 4: outfits and was like, oh, they look great, and I
Speaker 4: had like an I was inundated with all these followers
Speaker 4: and all these comments, and it was like it was
Speaker 4: a weird few days because I they it just they
Speaker 4: lashed onto one tweet and the fandom. Another thing that
Speaker 4: I said, which I stand by, that Billie Eilish is
Speaker 4: very talented, but she cannot dress to save her life,
Speaker 4: God bless. I'm sure she's talented in other ways, and
Speaker 4: she is musically satorially speaking. Girl can't dress. Whether it's
Speaker 4: your stylist, the girl cannot dress for her shape. It's
Speaker 4: awful there. I said that as kind of a snarky joke.
Speaker 4: I mean, for weeks and weeks people were trying to
Speaker 4: cancel me and you're you're mad at her because she's
Speaker 4: a young girl and you're trying to beat up on it.
Speaker 4: I was like, I just whatever, I said, the girl
Speaker 4: can't dress, she has no style. Well everyone has style,
Speaker 4: and that everyone has manners. That's just you know, the
Speaker 4: good things God gave us, you.
Speaker 1: Know, unbelievable. Well, look, I can talk to you all night,
Speaker 1: but I know you're across the pond, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to keep you too long. I'm very excited for
Speaker 1: an upcoming event with you, Squared Circle Expo. Yes, it
Speaker 1: will be myself, so Calval, Shane Douglas and the Sandman
Speaker 1: and uh maybe Scott Steiner. He added his name to
Speaker 1: one of the tweets. Is he with us too?
Speaker 4: I think he is. And I'm ready to get extreme.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to wear, but I'm thinking cleather
Speaker 4: and chains.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 4: Well, I kind of sew I should just go full
Speaker 4: pleather chains maybe for better term.
Speaker 1: Uh you.
Speaker 4: I love the French fries. And when I when I
Speaker 4: ordered my VHS tapes to study you, I fell in
Speaker 4: love with not only you, but oh my god, the
Speaker 4: duo of franchise, Shane Douglas and you. I thought. I
Speaker 4: I literally was mad at myself for being born in
Speaker 4: the wrong era to not be a part of that,
Speaker 4: because it was. I mean, nothing's better than that. So
Speaker 4: I love I love Shane Douglas. I love you. So
Speaker 4: I'm at a many times he's very nice. Scott sign
Speaker 4: our work for years. He's lovely to Square Circle Expo.
Speaker 4: He did Shenanigan's podcast, shout out to them. Yes, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be amazing. Indianapolis is a great time, so we'll
Speaker 4: have an amazing time. It's a reunion for all of us.
Speaker 4: And my gosh, look at the poster. So many amazing
Speaker 4: names there. MJF, Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash, shut up, Kevin
Speaker 4: Nash there.
Speaker 1: Will talk to me at this.
Speaker 4: Maybe we'll just do that live. But honestly, RBD an
Speaker 4: amazing lineup and if you're not in the area, we
Speaker 4: do apologize. There might be pre sales or virtuals I
Speaker 4: don't know, but either way, if you can join us
Speaker 4: April seventh to the eighth, My gosh, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: This is her broadcasting skills coming through. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to say a word. I was just like, go ahead, girl,
Speaker 1: just get it.
Speaker 3: Confrontation and you have the gaw TV girls with you
Speaker 3: behind you.
Speaker 1: No, they're all friends. Everybody's friends.
Speaker 4: Fancy, here's what we're gonna pink satin, pink ladies, jackets.
Speaker 4: We're gonna yes, yeah, like we get a bone to
Speaker 4: pick with you. Bitch, just kidding out. I'm a huge fan. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but yeah, no, in all seriousness an amazing lineup? Wouldny
Speaker 4: to talk about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh my god? That was that was the best
Speaker 1: thing ever.
Speaker 4: No, I'm very excited.
Speaker 1: We need to get a drink that evening and just
Speaker 1: reminisce and hang out if we can.
Speaker 4: Girl, I love you, aside from me being a crazy
Speaker 4: wrestling fan, for you and your work and you're an
Speaker 4: amazing legacy that will last forever for every girl joining
Speaker 4: wrestling to look back and go, oh my god, I
Speaker 4: want to be a friend scene as I did, and
Speaker 4: you know what you've done for the business. I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 4: I love you so much and as a personal friend,
Speaker 4: I'm excited to catch up with you personally and have
Speaker 4: a drinker five and let's yes or five. I cannot
Speaker 4: wait to see. Let the fans know where we can
Speaker 4: find you and what else you have upcoming? Please, well,
Speaker 4: I will tell you so. I will be in LA
Speaker 4: for wrestle Con Friday, Saturday Sunday, but the main thing
Speaker 4: is Saturday, April first. Dresselmania is going to be our
Speaker 4: charity event this year, benefiting Childhealth dot Org. We have
Speaker 4: Mick Foley hosting it. It's after WrestleMania Day one and
Speaker 4: anything you need to do is on dresselmania dot com.
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Speaker 4: this year it's for child help. We're hoping to raise
Speaker 4: even more, especially with Mick Fuley involved. Who's the nicest
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Speaker 4: pm on YouTube. You guys have to tune in. We've
Speaker 4: had a Francy episode. If you haven't caught it, please
Speaker 4: catch the replay. Say this amazing and Franci, We'll have
Speaker 4: you on again. Please, I would love to.
Speaker 1: Come on again. We need a round two because there
Speaker 1: are so many more topics we can discuss.
Speaker 4: Right with my crazy self. We barely scratched the surface
Speaker 4: on the first episode. It was like we wanted to
Speaker 4: keep going.
Speaker 1: I know we did. Listen, don't forget to send me
Speaker 1: the address because I have stuff to mail.
Speaker 4: We talked, thank you, Oh my god, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: We'll do for sure.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I will talk to you before then. But thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. You love you, and
Speaker 1: I am so proud of the woman that you've become.
Speaker 1: Oh honestly, you are going to stop. You're doing wonderful things.
Speaker 1: And like I said, you're so I'm gushing. You're so
Speaker 1: fluent in what you're doing, like you're You're just top notch, baby,
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy for you with with everything that
Speaker 1: you have going on.
Speaker 4: For for someone as that, I'm gonna cry for someone
Speaker 4: that I love and respect so much and looked up to,
Speaker 4: that means a lot.
Speaker 1: So you're so cute. I love you someech I love you.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I feel the same way, but you know you
Speaker 2: don't have to cry.
Speaker 4: Kiss to YouTube. I'll talk to you, baby. I love you, guys,
Speaker 4: I love you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't. Okay. So that was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun.
Speaker 2: How great is she was something.
Speaker 1: I was something. She's great. She went on, she went
Speaker 1: on a binge. Did that's a YouTube clip waiting to
Speaker 1: happen right there?
Speaker 5: Which one?
Speaker 2: My gosh, my mind was racing.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got I got a couple of ideas in
Speaker 1: my brain for that. But that was pretty good. She's
Speaker 1: she's got an opinion, she's not afraid to share it.
Speaker 1: I love that about her. She is not Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: she's blossomed. Really, she's a beautiful woman inside and out.
Speaker 1: She's she's doing wonderful things. And I'm just so glad
Speaker 1: we had her on, so happy to see her. I'll
Speaker 1: be happy to see her in Indianna.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, all right, I guess are we drawing now?
Speaker 5: We went a little over.
Speaker 2: Do you want to I'll give it a couple more minutes.
Speaker 3: Give yeah, let's let me show you one more time.
Speaker 3: For those in here, let's well, no, that's not it.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's our square, and.
Speaker 5: I have to pull it up again. Give me give
Speaker 5: me a moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, while you're pulling that up. This weekend, guys, if
Speaker 1: anybody is in the Philadelphia Tri state area, it is
Speaker 1: Icons of Wrestling. Shane Douglas and I will be signing
Speaker 1: together at the ECW Arena also known as the twenty
Speaker 1: three hundred Arena from ten am to three pm. And
Speaker 1: that is March eighteenth, which is this Saturday. So if
Speaker 1: you're in the area, come on down.
Speaker 5: Hell this guy in this gala in the arena.
Speaker 1: That couple, you know, I run another somebody tweeted at
Speaker 1: me or somebody left the comment, yeah, Francine's husband, you know,
Speaker 1: Shane Douglas.
Speaker 5: You guys married.
Speaker 2: You know, every like.
Speaker 1: Twenty comments, you get one that says, oh yeah, her husband,
Speaker 1: you know. Franchise.
Speaker 3: Not only can you enjoy the memories encapsulated in this photo,
Speaker 3: but you can also just stare at the penmanship of
Speaker 3: both the franchise and the Queen of.
Speaker 1: Ex Utiful, isn't it Anthony Cup Francine, why didn't you
Speaker 1: go to xp W. Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 2: We actually covered that fairly.
Speaker 1: Recovery, but I will answer it again. And Scott Smith
Speaker 1: fin it's been almost the year that I was on
Speaker 1: with YouTube cheese. The GE's time flies, It does fly, Scott,
Speaker 1: and you're both going into Charles Ship again. By the way, Anthony,
Speaker 1: I didn't go to XPW because it was weird, like
Speaker 1: he was calling me. Rob Black was calling me. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to go in as his manager against Shane
Speaker 1: and Lizzie Borden and then Uh, I said, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about your product. And then he he says,
Speaker 1: I'll send you some DVDs and I said, I don't
Speaker 1: have a DVD player. So he sent me a DVD player,
Speaker 1: which I always put him over for. And that was
Speaker 1: very nice of him. Because this huge package arrived that
Speaker 1: my peobox. I was like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 1: And here it was a DVD player. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened after that. I just didn't feel I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel comfortable, like after the whole California thing
Speaker 1: with the ECW. What happened. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like maybe I was getting set
Speaker 1: up or something, and I didn't feel comfortable going in
Speaker 1: by myself, so I just didn't It didn't happen, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Black.
Speaker 3: Rob Black's not gonna DM me now, uh calling you
Speaker 3: a liar and going off? Is he like you did
Speaker 3: the last time talked on our show?
Speaker 1: I said he was very nice to me, I don't
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, I don't. No, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: what it was. But I just, you know, I just
Speaker 1: had a bad taste in my mouth from when they
Speaker 1: invaded our pay per view.
Speaker 3: Rob Black was a little bit of a cry baby
Speaker 3: last time. Shane was on a little bit well you know,
Speaker 3: well that was me saying that so I could say
Speaker 3: whatever I want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. He was not the encounters I've
Speaker 1: had with him, he was very nice. I didn't like
Speaker 1: the whole XPW thing and it just it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: So that's that. But we got the Charles chip jar here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give it a shaky shaky eh. The winna.
Speaker 4: Is Oh look at that Michael's wrestling channel.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he's one before he has one before.
Speaker 1: Longtime supporter, Michael, Are you still here, buddy? If you are,
Speaker 1: let us know.
Speaker 2: What does that continue the non winning streak of Christy?
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 2: I feel like Christy did win one something.
Speaker 4: You know what Christy wants.
Speaker 1: She won my outfit.
Speaker 4: Yes, so that's a big prize.
Speaker 1: So it's not like she lost every single time. All right,
Speaker 1: So Michael, Michael, Michael, are you still here?
Speaker 3: Michael's wrestling channel. Email this email address. You have it
Speaker 3: if you've already won, But you're going to email this
Speaker 3: email address with your name and your mailing address, and
Speaker 3: I will send this photo out to you probably by
Speaker 3: the end of the week.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The promoter, Scott Hewlett just texted me a spectacular episode
Speaker 1: with the all going to be incredibly hard to match.
Speaker 1: That he's the one bringing us into square circle. Hello Scott,
Speaker 1: thank you for watching, appreciate it. You want to talk
Speaker 1: about Patreon and all. I have one thing that we're
Speaker 1: going to do. I know we're a little up in
Speaker 1: the air about it, but I mentioned the whole trademark thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I pulled some articles and we're gonna read some mean
Speaker 1: tweets there.
Speaker 3: It is Queen of Extreme TM. We're gonna cover it
Speaker 3: on Patreon. We're gonna we're gonna talk about it in
Speaker 3: a little bit more detail, you know, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: we'll release a YouTube video response as well, a little
Speaker 3: bit down the line. I mean again, like like I
Speaker 3: said at the kickoff of the show, couldn't imagine what
Speaker 3: it would have turned into. But we'll dive into it
Speaker 3: a little bit more Patreon this week. I didn't load
Speaker 3: him into the to the little banner here. But our
Speaker 3: watch along is going to be quite interesting, okay, as
Speaker 3: we are going to watch the triple threat in a
Speaker 3: triple in a six man tag. Ready for this taking
Speaker 3: on the team of Chris Chetti, Lance Storm and the
Speaker 3: Blue Meani on the beach in Belmar, New Jersey, June
Speaker 3: twenty ninth, nineteen ninety The Extreme Beach Party.
Speaker 2: Well thought on that one.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think I might remember what I wore,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember the match obviously, so but I
Speaker 1: will tell you this is one of those I kicked myself.
Speaker 2: I lived thirty minutes from Bellmar.
Speaker 3: And you never came back in nineteen ninety seven, never
Speaker 3: ever ever went to an ECW show.
Speaker 5: I don't know why. I really don't know why.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe I couldn't get into the bar, but
Speaker 3: they were on the beach. You probably kids were probably
Speaker 3: able to get onto four fifteen years old.
Speaker 4: You get back of the bar.
Speaker 1: It was in the back of the bar.
Speaker 2: They weren't letting people go like teenagers go into the
Speaker 2: to the to the to the beach part.
Speaker 4: I don't remember. I really don't remember all I.
Speaker 1: Remember it was in the back of the like it
Speaker 1: was in the back part of the bar, and it
Speaker 1: was outside and it was so hot. It was blazing,
Speaker 1: blazing hot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, genius area to have a show.
Speaker 5: So we'll we'll check that out on Patreon this week.
Speaker 1: All right, well I'm excited about that again. Good show,
Speaker 1: very happy, Thanks for all who came. Do you want
Speaker 1: to give some plugs for yourself?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Please follow me on Twitter at Chad e and b
Speaker 3: on Instagram at IB Exclusives. My website is Ibexclusives dot com.
Speaker 3: You can check out all the autograph signings we have
Speaker 3: coming up. I've got my IB Exclusives T shirt on
Speaker 3: that's belowthecollar. Dot com slash IB Exclusives recorded a podcast earlier.
Speaker 3: Then it's Timeline with my good buddy Hughsey. That's going
Speaker 3: to be released soon covering some entertainment stuff, so look
Speaker 3: for that dropping the near future.
Speaker 5: Interesting coming soon.
Speaker 3: So it's my solo effort. It's nothing to do with Husey.
Speaker 3: He's just going to be the first time first guest.
Speaker 3: So yeah, trying to do something a little different, but
Speaker 3: see how it goes.
Speaker 5: It's not going to be anything.
Speaker 2: Too crazy, but what to call it, you have a name, working.
Speaker 3: Title, perfectly rated, gotcha easy enough? I mean, how many
Speaker 3: catchphrases to somebody at right? Yes, exactly right, coin of
Speaker 3: extreme TM true.
Speaker 1: Across the board. On social media, you can find me
Speaker 1: at ACW Diva Francine And if you you know, have
Speaker 1: a couple of bucks, go grub yourself a shirt off
Speaker 1: of pwt's there's ten of them to choose from. And
Speaker 1: if you are in the area this weekend, I will
Speaker 1: be at the arena like I said March eighteenth, and
Speaker 1: next Thursday, I will be in Michigan for Rhinos Company,
Speaker 1: So I'll have information on that on my Twitter page.
Speaker 1: I have the poster and everything for that. So if
Speaker 1: you're in the Detroit area or I think it's Monroe, Michigan,
Speaker 1: come on out and see me. But we love you guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you all so much for spending your Wednesday. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to talk with this retainer in my mouth
Speaker 1: and I'm just stumbling u the Wednesday evening with myself
Speaker 1: and Chad and I hope you all have a great
Speaker 1: night and a great weekend, and we love you.