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Speaker 1: this morning flip. But he's in everything. His smile, he's

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Speaker 1: of Americans. We are out here. This man deserves his accolades,

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Speaker 1: In case you don't know what we're talking about, we

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Speaker 1: talking about the one so David David Bannon, right for

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Speaker 1: a kid coming from Mississippi, Right, because traditionally there was

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Speaker 1: hip hop cities at one point, right, Atlanta became a

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Speaker 2: It was, it was. It was a lot of it

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Speaker 2: don't know this, bro. Did you know that Nori was

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Speaker 2: I don't know why. Every time you were a few people,

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was right. No man, then I got the.

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Speaker 2: Instance.

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Speaker 2: But also, people don't think about this, Jackson. Mississippi was

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, bro, I don't The thing I

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Speaker 2: Right, you have you ever met doctor being? Doctor Umar

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Speaker 1: Man, I like, I like doctor Umar, like be like,

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Speaker 2: I don't really care who. Nobody fucking I think that's

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Speaker 2: Gilly are very similar. That you all controlled y'all power,

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Speaker 2: This man called me. He don't never call me when

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Speaker 2: Norri Saint Benner. Wrap. The rap game needs a motherfucking union.

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Speaker 2: We need to figure out. We sat on the phone

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Speaker 2: those are the types of things that we do. Hold on, man,

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Speaker 2: let me see that you want. I ain't gonna poke

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: You all came up with an idea, bro, even think

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Speaker 1: But that's but I love everything you just said, but

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Speaker 2: This is about giving people their.

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Speaker 1: Flowers, man, Like, really, really, what it is is there's

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Speaker 1: I sincerely believe if you was famous for two years,

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Speaker 2: If you're famous for ten years and you can.

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Speaker 1: You are a superhero. You're a version of it, you

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Speaker 6: I'm saying, And not just famous, and not just famous

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Speaker 2: We know those foundation when it was hard to get

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Speaker 1: Like I sincerely believe that this this is my therapy,

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Because the thing with us, what we said is it's

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Speaker 2: I'll just say this, man, it feels good when you

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Speaker 2: I was always a trailblazer, man. But this ship ain't easy.

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Speaker 2: People don't talk about the mental aspect of having to

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, especially what they was doing y'all during

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Speaker 2: wasn't playing ship? Bro? I was with being ras Cascers

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But the difference between being in the group, man,

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Speaker 2: He Payn was a little bit different. Not only was

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Speaker 2: For a while? Okay, while I have wanted a few

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Speaker 1: As a producer, Has there ever been a beat that

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, If I gave it away, I gave it away.

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Speaker 2: It was done, and I got to be honest, and

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Speaker 2: I want to say this in front of you. A

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Speaker 2: But there's two things I want to tell y'all about.

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Speaker 2: So I think to y'all as a rapper has one

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Speaker 2: who you talk about a favorite rapper that usually the

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00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: beat is not usually jam. That's part of the problem.

434
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: And so what I would do with Tip was I

435
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: would go and play beats for till for him and

436
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: have him pick it off the beat and I didn't

437
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: even know it and it was funny. I just went

438
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: to him recently it was like, bro, I want you.

439
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: I want your ear on my next album. Bro, Like

440
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: I really want him because he has such vision and

441
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: so I don't know, something really special. But because I

442
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: give you an example, when we did Rubber Band, Man,

443
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm a producer, I'm not a beat maker. Tip left

444
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: and came back with that record being the way that

445
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: it was so like the kids and all of that

446
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that was him. He added to it, Yeah,

447
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: like he didn't add to the beat but the structure over. Yeah,

448
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 2: because I produced records. I don't just do I just

449
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: don't give a person the beat and they run off,

450
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: you know. And that actually came from Snoop. Snoop is

451
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: the person that turned me into a producer instead of

452
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: a beat maker. Blessed. I was producing Snoop and I

453
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: was just so happy to be producing Snoop. I didn't

454
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: say ship, and Snoop said, come in here, nephew. She

455
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: was like, you don't. He said, tell me what to do?

456
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: And I say, if if I can tell you what

457
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: to do, the rest of y'allbuckers can't tell me ship.

458
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: He got that from Drake. Tell the motherfuckers you can

459
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: do this. You can do the man. Fuck that Snoop say,

460
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: I'm ship.

461
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: But if you think about it, Snoop has kind of

462
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: always been produced. I mean yeah, so he probably even

463
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: if you didn't want to produce for him, he probably

464
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: had to.

465
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: Force you to do that, man. And so you know,

466
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: from that point, bro, I just realized, like, I give

467
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: y'all another story, and y'all gonna trip on this. And

468
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: it's crazy because Beyonce just use like a pill in

469
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: her tour. Man, y'all clapped for that ship take some im.

470
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: It was was crazy. I was talking to my mom

471
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: on the way coming over. I was like, Mom, would

472
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: you ere the thought like a pimp would have been

473
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: would be doing?

474
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: Because you had to tell your mom what.

475
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 5: You know?

476
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: She knew, she knew. I mean, regardless of what people

477
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: say Facebook is they hood. You know what I'm saying.

478
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: But it's like a pimp on top of us. But

479
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 2: the crazy thing is I didn't like like a pip.

480
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: I really didn't. I picked that beat because little Flip,

481
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: Little Flip was like what our bartered with you you

482
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 2: give me two beats, I give you a verse. And

483
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: so I gave him the two beats and I was like, well,

484
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 2: I sample pimp sees voice, that's Texas, Texas. I know

485
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: he'll like that. I just threw them beat real quick,

486
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: and I said, I'll go and change the beat later.

487
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: We made that song like twenty minutes brow In the

488
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: last the last verse, we went back and forth, just

489
00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: like on some freestyle shit All and and broke.

490
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: It was.

491
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: It was this DJ in Atlanta named DJ Will. I'll

492
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: never forget this man, like, because you remember I had

493
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: the little job record, might get your job bro, get you.

494
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: We split and DJ Will heard that record, Bro, and

495
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: he was like, this is your hit record. He was like,

496
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: if you use this song, flip this from your A

497
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: and B side. He said, you a big star bro

498
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: in the next seven months and I switched that to

499
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: my A side, bro, and it was history from there.

500
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question that credibly only you

501
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: could ask them and one a couple of other people.

502
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: But what would life be like right now? Have been alive?

503
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: Music would be different, life would be different. And I

504
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: think that's the reason why some of the things happened

505
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: to some of our heroes, because because the world would

506
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: be different. Pop was alive, if MC were alive, it's

507
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: just certain men, if Nipsey was still alive, bro, you know.

508
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: And I don't know, man, it's crazy for me because

509
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: Pempcy was my friend. That's what I'm asking Pemper Yeah, yeah, all.

510
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: Right, So this is this This is a song called

511
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: Chad right, Yeah, it's basically given give him.

512
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is this is a true story, bro.

513
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: So pemp was real proud, you know, because I had

514
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: gotten really sick and the reason why I lost all

515
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: of the weight because the doctor said, you know, with

516
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: me having high blood pressure sleep apnea and uh high

517
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: blood pressure sleep apnea, I think I had like high

518
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: cholesterol with all of that stuff. At the same time,

519
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: He's like, you're gonna die. So so like I got

520
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: with Scott Parker and ended up losing like bro like

521
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: fifty six pounds in like three months.

522
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 7: And so.

523
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: Me and PEMPC had gotten really tight. Speaking of like

524
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: why he was losing the weight. No, that was that

525
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: was That was before when when like a Pimp came out.

526
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: You know, I told you all the story last time

527
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: about how I used to write him in jail and

528
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: we became real tight. Pimp was gonna move to LA

529
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: and so and so like it was me, Juicy J

530
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: his producers like we always gonna work on Pimp album.

531
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: So I was in the studio out in LA and

532
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: I had moved to LA and I got a call

533
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: from Pimp. I started going to the studio early, so

534
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: unlike most rappers when they go to the studio LA,

535
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: I started going to the studio like ten in the

536
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: morning so I could get out, you know, and have

537
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: somewhat of a regular life. I was in the studio,

538
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: I saw Pimp a call didn't pick up. That's just

539
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: that's the homie now, and they like, oh, like, that's

540
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: my homie. So I didn't pick up the call. When

541
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: I got out the studio, I called and called in call.

542
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: He didn't pick up, right. So two days later I

543
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: heard he died in La Right, yeah, okay, I ended

544
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: up picking up. I ended up listening to the voicemail

545
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: after I heard he had died, and he was like, Banna,

546
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: I'm a lax, Come pick me up. Don't come pick

547
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: me up. Damn. Like, Bro, imagine what that does to

548
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: a human being, because one thing that I don't do.

549
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm not like one of the cats who when I

550
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: get in a certain position, I don't understand who my

551
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: friends are. Like, although he was my friend, that's still pimp.

552
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Be clear, you know, Snoop is still Snoop to me.

553
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm still a fan of people that I look up to.

554
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: But Bro, like that bothered me for a very very

555
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: long time. Man that that you know, And people would

556
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: ask me my opinion about how did I think he died?

557
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: And I always tell people I don't give a fuck

558
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: my hommie, did you know? I don't really that really

559
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: don't matter to me. Bro, you know, so it would

560
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: be a lot different. Pimp didn't take no shit. I

561
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie to you.

562
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: Every time I've been around him, it's always been fun like.

563
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: He's always been like the laughingsight, like.

564
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: Man, Banna, man, don't let you niggas know you bound Pep.

565
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: It's so fucking funny. But Pip had a theory that

566
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: if you let people know who you, the child in

567
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: you and you're gonna have to hurt them because people

568
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: will play with you. And Pim didn't let motherfuckers play

569
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: with them. Better, don't let them niggas know you might

570
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: be smart. That's people tell me that all the time.

571
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: You're smart. Pemp would always tell me. He was like, Benner,

572
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta take some time, bro, Like you're

573
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: smart and your head. It's like it's gonna take time

574
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: for the world to catch up to the ship that

575
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: you own. He's a great motherfucker, bro. Yeah, I missing

576
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: mother for rest in.

577
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: So our show is about giving people their flowers. We

578
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: want to give you your flowers. Uh yeah, I want

579
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: to give you a flower. Yeah you know what I'm saying.

580
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: You never got him from got your flowers? Yes, yes,

581
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: So the unity play face to face man the man,

582
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: and we started with.

583
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's hard, fuck y'all.

584
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Snoop said it's better than the Grammy because it comes

585
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: for his people.

586
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 6: And we gotta, we gotta really thank you because you

587
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 6: came early to chapel And would you believe we just

588
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 6: celebrated in March nine years of drink Champ going on

589
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 6: to our tenth years while you was.

590
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: Talking about it this morning, I don't know if if

591
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: anybody's been on here more than me.

592
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh Jada kissing you and John Fat Joe, I think around.

593
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. I'm honest. I remember before. This

594
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: is your house.

595
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: So let me let me just say this again. Yeah,

596
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: I just want you to know you could come up

597
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: here anytime you want to talk, anytime you want to

598
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: speak politics, you want to speak anything. This is your house.

599
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: You should know this song for people to know what

600
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: you I want.

601
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: You motherfuckers to know. If you see him, you see

602
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: us not going for a week, and you see David

603
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: been here days, we planned it, you know what.

604
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: Might end up happening if you'll want to go home

605
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: to break Yeah, it's all good.

606
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: So I've been I've been having so much fun watching

607
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: you have so much fun living in this movie through

608
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: star life flows, it just seems like, what, for lack

609
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: of a better term, he my salution with the term,

610
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: it's like I see I don't want to want to

611
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: use the word reincarnated, but I see you like you're

612
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: a whole different person. I can't know if I attribute

613
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: that all to just the movies. Maybe it's mixed me

614
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: in with the workout. But lately when I see you

615
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: online and I see you, you know, promoting the movies

616
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: and I see you, it's just a glowness of look

617
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: that you have that it speaks happiness like that, I

618
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: can see the ship, Like, what the fuck is going on?

619
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Bro? This time last year, Bro, and count two years back,

620
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: I went through the worst depression that I ever went

621
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: through in my life. And motherfuckers really showed me. They ass, family, friends, music, industry, everything.

622
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: They really showed me the ass. And God is so powerful, bro,

623
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: because God laid the whole world out to me and

624
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: showed me what the world was.

625
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: You know.

626
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: And Bro, no boys shit, I talk about this man,

627
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: y'all gonna be surprised. Bro. I call method man, and

628
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: Method told me, Bro, he's like the only common denominator

629
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: and everything you're going through is you. You can't make

630
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: nobody buy your records, you can't make nobody put you

631
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: in their movies, you can't do none of that shit.

632
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: You can only change you. And I told him, Man,

633
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: I was like, Bro, and what's funny? This is the

634
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: funniest shit in the world. Meth didn't know me. Rock Wilder.

635
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: I did a verse, you remember, Bro, I had just

636
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: went on this this run while I was just fasting on,

637
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: like right, and I did a verse on Eric Simon

638
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: album and me and motherfucking rock Waller I got really,

639
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: really tight. And it's so crazy because rock Waller seemed

640
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: like he was from Mississippi. Because I said, Man, I'm

641
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: doing a guidbox too, and I think I want a

642
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: Method on record. He did some Mississippi shit. He was like,

643
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: you want Meth on the record for real? Hung off

644
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: in my motherfucking face. I was like, like, bro, fifteen

645
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: minutes later, h go Method number. He said, call him tomorrow.

646
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: So I called Method. Did the verse in the fucking day, Bro,

647
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: And I asked Method. I said, Method, Man, why are

648
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: you fucking with me like that? You don't know me?

649
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Method was like, man, I get on Twitter sometimes and

650
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: black Twitter say protect David Ben. So we're going through

651
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: that shit. And so then we gave you know, we

652
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: would talk every now and then. So one day, man,

653
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: I was seeing how happy he was on TV and

654
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 2: how well he was doing. So I said, if God

655
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: has blessed me to have people in my life like that,

656
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: call him on some real shit. So I was just like, hey, Bro,

657
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: I can't sleep dunk and met The said I went

658
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: through the same shit. And he said, when I wasn't

659
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: sleeping for two hours a night, nor wow and start

660
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: fucking with my mind, I ain't gonna even bullishit you.

661
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because when I would go to the doctor,

662
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: the doctor be like, Okay, yeah, yeah, you can't sleep.

663
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: I see you in four months, motherfucker. I just told

664
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: you I couldn't sleep, and you said you can't see

665
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: me for another fucking for us as muns as I'm

666
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 2: playing your blackcast shit. So Metter said, I couldn't sleep

667
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: with either Banner and he said, so what I started

668
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: doing is getting up going to the gym. He said,

669
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: the gym in New York opening four thirty. And so Bro,

670
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: when he told me that, Bro, I just start going

671
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: to the gym every fucking day. Bro. Even if I

672
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: was super depressed or whatever, I would just go sit

673
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: in the fucking parking lot, but I wouldn't miss that

674
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: fucking gym. There's a book called Atomic Habits, and dude

675
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: said something so powerful in that motherfucking book. He said,

676
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: even if you ain't gonna do but one pull up,

677
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: do that one, because when you don't do that one,

678
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: then that's when it starts with you now and ever. Right,

679
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: so he said, even if you get on the tread

680
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: meal for two seconds, just get on the fucking tread meal, broke,

681
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: and no boy shit. I started going every day. I said,

682
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: I don't care how fucking sad I am. I'm gonna

683
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: get in this fucking gym. And then one day, Bro,

684
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: it clicked to me, Bro that I am not gonna

685
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: let nobody. I don't care if it's my mother, and

686
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: I love my mother more than any of you motherfuckers

687
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: on this planet. But I'm not even letting my mother

688
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: take my happiness away. Bro, No boy shit, if a

689
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: person doesn't have a good spirit, if they not own

690
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: this ship, don't even want.

691
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: You around me, bro, So let me ask you, do

692
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: you think that by you working out you attracted these

693
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: movie roles? Do you think do you think I mean

694
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: I change the state of mind? Yeah, cout through that.

695
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Let me just be honest with you, brother, how one

696
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: of the sexest motherfuckers. I'm just being honest with you.

697
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all don't have amox men and this bitch.

698
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: I look. Also, did you see when we was running

699
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: this morning? I started to go get reright there, but

700
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm no, I'm seriously growing up. Like

701
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 2: no bullshit.

702
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 6: Bro.

703
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: When I tell people that I'm the sexist motherfucker alive,

704
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: is not because I'm popping shit. Is because we stay

705
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: in that fucking gym.

706
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: Bro.

707
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: But I see how you was running to day. That's

708
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 2: four years of training. Like METHI said, Bro, I can't

709
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: expect the motherfucker to put me on their film, but

710
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: I can be prepared when I walk in that fucking room.

711
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: I can know my lines and look better than any

712
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: of these motherfuckers on this fucking planet. And what it

713
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: also does, bro, is it motivates the children, bro, to

714
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: wanna be better man. So so what I decided to do, man,

715
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: is not complain about the world, but work on me

716
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: and me be better and no bullshit. Bro, you talked

717
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: about it earlier. The reason why I started fucking with

718
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: the ferraris and shit like that, it wasn't to pop.

719
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: A lot of people do that and get in the

720
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: opulence so they can show out in front of other

721
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: poor people. That's not the reason why I do that.

722
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: I do it because I've never done nothing for myself. Bro.

723
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: Think about all the money that I made and I

724
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: looked around and I didn't have shit. It's not about

725
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: having any toys. But if everybody else in the world.

726
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: I told somebody, I said, when I present it to

727
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: the world a martyr, all black people brought me was death.

728
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: When I presented to the world a fucking king, they

729
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: brought me money. Jews gifts, opportunity. And I say this

730
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: especially to our young ladies that's watching drink Champs. People

731
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: treat you exactly how you treat yourself. If you treat

732
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: yourself like shit, then other people gonna keep shitting on you.

733
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: If you don't take shit, and all you put in

734
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: your body is the best, all all you step into

735
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: is the best, the best clothes, the best thing, then

736
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: people are gonna treat you exactly how you treat yourself.

737
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: I told the motherfucker this man. Then when they brought me,

738
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: when they brought me to speak, I said, how you

739
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: gonna How you're gonna offer me ten thousand dollars in

740
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: my outfit is seven. I'm not borll shit. I'm serious.

741
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Look at me, Look at me, motherfucker. In order for

742
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: me to come to your event, motherfucker, you're gonna at

743
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: least out to double my outfit. So honestly, like bro,

744
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: like I get paid the house, whether hip hop is

745
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: selling or not. Bro, my lifestyle is a certain way.

746
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: So don't call me if you don't have the bread.

747
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And I'm serious, man. God

748
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 2: loves us so much that whatever you say is true.

749
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: If you say you a nigga, then you a nigga.

750
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: If you're a god and you act like it, you

751
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: that too. God wants the best for you. Life conspires

752
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: to give you exactly what you want. But well, you

753
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: don't notice. We don't notice what we say to ourselves. Nigga,

754
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die or not. I'm gonna die tonight. I'm

755
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: gonna die tonight. That nigga did I'm a cast money millionaire.

756
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm a cash money millionaire. A cast money millionaire, you

757
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: become a millionaire, they're millionaires. So I want opulence, bro,

758
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: and I want peace and I want happiness. And one

759
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: thing that I want to do for y'all, bro, I

760
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: got I have some things that I'm doing on the

761
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: technology side. And it's funny. I told Big Ticket this

762
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: this morning when this shit happened for me, All y'all

763
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: motherfuckers quit and we ain't that cool. I'm telling you

764
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: when I do this shit that I do, all moham,

765
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: y'all quit this shit we done for life, like bro,

766
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: the stuff that I was so proud of myself last

767
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: week and this is not on no cap shit bro,

768
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: no week before last three of my phone calls were

769
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: casual phone calls with billionaires. And if what they say,

770
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: who you talk to and who you spend your time with,

771
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: the ten major people around you are going in from

772
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: show life where y'all motherfuckers better get ready. Then after that's.

773
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something. And this is for me

774
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: knowing you for twenty five years, and this is an

775
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 1: outright question I want to know for myself.

776
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: Okay, do you trust human beings. Do I trust human beings.

777
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: I trust human beings to be human. I'll tell you

778
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: all something, and this is serious. It's gonna shock a

779
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: lot of people. One of the things that helped my

780
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: depression is I don't hate anymore. I don't hate anybody

781
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: on this planet anymore, other races of people who actually

782
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: may deserve hate because of the things that they have

783
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: historically done. What I realized is that there's a finite

784
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: amount of energy in the universe, right, So there can't

785
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: be any more energy created. Right, So if I give

786
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: my energy to like thirty percent or let's say fifty

787
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: percent or that to hate, and it may be justified hate,

788
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: then you constrict the opportunity to have opulence, love, opportunity vision, Right.

789
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: So what I started understanding is that if you know

790
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: people have historically been a certain way, then why you

791
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: keep going around the motherfucker? That's your fault. A lot

792
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 2: of people got mad at me when I said, I

793
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: told big Boy this, this is the best time in

794
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: history for black and brown people, and people say, huh,

795
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: I said, because these motherfuckers have shown you exactly who

796
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: they are. And if we don't take care of ourselves

797
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: with done. So now is the time in history for

798
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: us to create our own shit, our own movies. It's

799
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: time to let the fucking plantation go. And back in

800
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: the day when I used to talk my shit, y'all

801
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: be honest, most motherfuckers thought I was crazy. Some of

802
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: y'all in here probably thought I was crazy too, that

803
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: nigga crazy. And now that all this crazy shit is

804
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: having it now, people are looking for solutions for the

805
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: motherfuckers who were crazy. Bro. I know the albums that

806
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: we made. I know the songs that we made. We

807
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: were talking about this shit ten twelve years ago, right

808
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: around eating absolutely, and this shit came true. So now

809
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: it's time for us to get our farms. Bro. Now

810
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: it may be time for us to move to Believe

811
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: to Brazil. I got back from Bob, you know what

812
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, it's time for us to stop talking,

813
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: bro and start moving acting. Yeah it Simmon's threatened me

814
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: if I if I go to Balley and I don't

815
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: go see him like you've got to do run queen.

816
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Oh that's fucking great.

817
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything you're saying. I keep thinking of Banner Vision,

818
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 6: the brand. You know what I'm gonna be honest with you.

819
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: I know you for for a long long time, right,

820
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: and it always seemed like you got smarter with your section,

821
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like it always felt

822
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: like but it didn't feel like at one point you

823
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: didn't trust the industry, particularly the industry. And that's why

824
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I labeled a human right now, because that has to

825
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: come from has to come from somewhere, right, Like.

826
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: Hip hop hurt my feelings. You're the culture.

827
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: Think about that all day, but please explain that to

828
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: the people who can't understand him.

829
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: Hip hop hurt my feelings. That's deep, that's deep. Well,

830
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: most people don't know about me, bro. I was a

831
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: battle rapper, Like I was a battle rapper. I was

832
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 2: a backpacker but living the life that I talked about

833
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: later on, you know what I'm saying. And I had

834
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: this love for hip hop and on every one of

835
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: my every one of my albums, I would always and

836
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: people never noticed this. I would always have a battle

837
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: rap or a hip hop song or something giving homage

838
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: back to like I always heard it. You know, we

839
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: didn't know, you know what I'm saying. And I always

840
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: lived by the rules, but hip hop really didn't give

841
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: a fuck about me and really give a fuck about Mississippi?

842
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: When did hip hop hurt you're feeling? And when I

843
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: realized that this ship is imperialism. It's a business.

844
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's imperial and it ain't personal though, person it

845
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: ain't personal. That's deep in itself. Hold on, hold on

846
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: because that's the two point question that you just answered

847
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: that to to. Because one, that's exactly what it is.

848
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, this is a business. This is called

849
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: hip hop business called you know.

850
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 6: Well, there's a difference between the business side of it

851
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 6: and the culture site. You couldn't make the distinction. There

852
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 6: is a distinction, Okay, I want to the monetizing of

853
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 6: the music.

854
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: I want to think that Kobe and us entered this

855
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: for the love at first, but once we realized if

856
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: it's business, we didn't want to get jokes better just

857
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: being to make money out of what you look then,

858
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: like he said, that's the other part of that, it's

859
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: not personal.

860
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: But the problem is is that I think what happened

861
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: to hip hop in general or anything when it comes

862
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: to people a culture, we do it by feelings because

863
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: we're spiritual people. We never laid down the rules like

864
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: I give you a great example, everybody want to talk

865
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: about who's the goat? Who's the goat? How can you

866
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: have a fucking goat when ain't no rules. If we're

867
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: gonna say somebody is the go to basketball, then let's

868
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: sit down at a table and say, Okay, how many

869
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: championships you have to have? How much influence do you

870
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: have on the culture, all of these different things. We

871
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: have to have some rules because because if not, then

872
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: it's emotional. And if it's emotional, then you could be

873
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: constipated more generational or generation because if you notice when

874
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: people talk about their ghats, they're really emotional about who

875
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: they like when they were growing up. I stopped that shit.

876
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: You know, my son, I can't speak about Lebron at all,

877
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: like he takes a super personal like and I'm just like,

878
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: I just I don't do it no more.

879
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: And then for a person to not really talk about

880
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: some of our greats who got ten rings, you know,

881
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: eight nine, ten rings, you know, and you know, for

882
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: us to to to talk about the goats and hip

883
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: hop and nobody say rock him, no, no, oh, nobody

884
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: nobody says scarface, like are you serious? Face? Come on, dude,

885
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: you know, so I think part of the problem is

886
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: is we have allowed other people, through their money, to

887
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: have a say so on hip hop. You know one

888
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: thing that I just finished speaking the AD week, and

889
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: what I told them is I wish hip hop was

890
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: the way that it used to be. Is you give

891
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: me your fucking money, you shit the fuck down, I'm

892
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: gonna make you a profit. Let me do what the

893
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: fuck I do. We have We have allowed white people

894
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: to become too comfortable in our culture. And this is

895
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: something I mean, I guess that's the reason why y'all

896
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: call it drinks. Because I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna

897
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: say something that's really really One of the reasons why

898
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: I stopped producing is because there was a young white

899
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: A and R at one of these and I had

900
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: already produced two number one hits for this label, right,

901
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: and this white boy felt comfortable to comment about Southern

902
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: rap music to me. Now, I probably would have took

903
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: his notes on R and B. Maybe maybe, hey, community,

904
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: maybe maybe his motherfucker felt called your day that you

905
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: need to motherfucker, you better shut your motherfucking mouth and

906
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: take these fucking credits. You don't know nothing about the shit,

907
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: because because I may not have created. But I have

908
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: something to do with this shit, you know what I'm saying.

909
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 2: And the motherfucker's feeling titled. And it's because we allow

910
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: people and you got too many negroes who will take

911
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: the check and allow their black or brown skin to

912
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: be used to use to manipulate other black and brown people.

913
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: And I think that shit is white dog. People use culture,

914
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: People use culture when it's most convenient to them, and

915
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't like that ship though.

916
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to do quick Time, Stan, let's do

917
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: it cool. You want to play no game?

918
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you never played QuickTime? I saw this. Here

919
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: we go.

920
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 6: So we're gonna ask We're gonna give you two. We're

921
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 6: gonna ask you a question of.

922
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: Two different This is hard, different topics, different people, different names. Yeah,

923
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: you pick one.

924
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 6: We're not drinking. We explain this horribly by the way,

925
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 6: pick one. We're not drinking. If you don't pick or

926
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 6: you say both, we drinking. And really what we want

927
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 6: is just bring up.

928
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: Names, give a story because celebrated motherfucking David. Like listen, man,

929
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, the show has got bigger and bigger and bigger,

930
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: and we truly have a different audience, and we truly

931
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: want to share this audience. What you You know what

932
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, because you've been a part of each This

933
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: is your audience, this is your audio. Yeah, so damn,

934
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: what are you drinking? This is another Mamma, you got

935
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: a fan.

936
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 7: I'm probably one the plastic like yo, still the gime

937
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 7: I'm brought you. I forgot that brought this through.

938
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, damn, people got a motherfucker mama.

939
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 6: Remember he brought it through the last Yeah, I forgot alright, Ready,

940
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 6: Tupac at easy any stories or any thoughts.

941
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: Bro, It's it's so crazy about pop pop. And I'm

942
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: being very honest with you, Bro. I don't like the

943
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: fans stuff a lot. But I really found that I

944
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: missed how brilliant, brilliant Biggie was because of pop. Like

945
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: I was such a fucking Tupac fan that I listened

946
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: to Biggie, but I didn't absorb b because I was

947
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: such a fucking pop fan, bro, And I didn't know

948
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: either one of them. You know what I'm saying. And

949
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: I tell I tell both, I tell everybody this man. Usually,

950
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying this is the case. Usually the

951
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: person that you like musically usually be the asshole usually,

952
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 2: you know, and we get connected and America is doing

953
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: this now. Bro, I'm watching which this trump shit. Bro,

954
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: just because you like somebody or you like their music,

955
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: don't mean that they right and the stuff that they

956
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: do is right. We got to get back to what

957
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: our grandmother's taught us. Like if you're wrong, motherfucker. I

958
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: don't care that your beats Jammy back in the day. Bro,

959
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: just because you had money with spind Up, your money, motherfucker,

960
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: but you ain't cool. You steal the fucking lane, you know.

961
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: So for me, Bro, I really suicidal Thoughts from Biggie

962
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: was was one of my favorite songs, bro from him,

963
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: and I would listen to that a lot. But I

964
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: really miss the opportunity to enjoy, you know, Bigg's artistry

965
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: because I was such a big Tupac fan. I think

966
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: Tupac transcended hip hop and not many people can say that.

967
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 2: I think he had a bigger calling on his life.

968
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 2: And he wasn't a perfect man, none of us are perfect,

969
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: but I think the calling on his spirit was so big,

970
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: and that's you know, we talked about him c you know,

971
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: imagine that Park was still a love a lot of

972
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: these rappers wouldn't be rappy crazy you know, so you

973
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: picked it's easy picked big quit or currency crit I

974
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: think Create is one of the dopest artists ever walked

975
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: this planet. Chriss dope. We need them on dream Changs.

976
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: They bought m J. G or A three six months heads.

977
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: Oh we're not drinking. Were n You know you're saying both.

978
00:52:54,520 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm saying both both. Oh come on, yeah, he got

979
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: a shot glass, he got the chockglass. She put a

980
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: shot for you.

981
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I want this one.

982
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: Oh.

983
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: I know where he gonna go, but I want this one.

984
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Clan or the Dungeon.

985
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: Family, Dungeon family.

986
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: See, are you voting with heart? Because that's one thing.

987
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: Y'all South more protected. You're very protective of yourself ship.

988
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna let New York niggas not.

989
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's true. It's true. It's true, iss true.

990
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: But let me tell you this. Let me let me

991
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: tell you this, and this is very important to me.

992
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 6: Man.

993
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: I think Rico Wade's family and the Dungeon families absolutely, yeah, bro,

994
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: they should be They should be billionaires. The closest Absol

995
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: helped shape Atlanta in general, the South as a whole

996
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: think about think about what Atlanta turned into and how

997
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: big the Dungeon Family was a part of that.

998
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 6: Bro.

999
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: You know, for me, the Dungeon family and I am

1000
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: a wool Tang fanatic, be clear, and I'm from the South, bro,

1001
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: But Goodie Mob stopped me from going down that wrong

1002
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: road when I was thinking about because I've always been

1003
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: blessed with both sides, the intelligent school, the streets, rap like,

1004
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: I've always had all of those things around me. When

1005
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: I heard soul Food and they used to be in

1006
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: something that was called a robbing crew. A couple of

1007
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 2: them dudes used to go around robbing parties.

1008
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Dog.

1009
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 2: And for me to hear some dudes that were really

1010
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 2: thorough for real, For me to hear some of Kool

1011
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: Joe's stories like what I heard about him, bro, and

1012
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: for him to talk the shit that he talked about spiritually, Bro,

1013
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: it changed my life.

1014
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: Bro.

1015
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: Like people can say what the fuck they want to

1016
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: bro out cast Andre three thousand, to me is the

1017
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: best rapper who have ever touched this planet. Don't give

1018
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: a fuck? Would nobody say, And I'll say it because

1019
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: he don't really even care about the shit. Imagine me

1020
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: thinking the motherfucker. Andre said the hardest shit any rapper

1021
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: has ever said in history. He said, I asked her

1022
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: what she wanted to be when she grew up, and

1023
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 2: she said alive. Didn't even rhyme. He has the child

1024
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: what she wanted to be when she grows up, and

1025
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: she said, alive. What the fuck? So for me? Bro,

1026
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 2: Like being from the South, we didn't have the Yankee

1027
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: hats to hide behind, We didn't have to mix to

1028
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: hide around. We didn't have fucking hoods and shit like

1029
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: that to hide around. Bro. We had to fight slavery.

1030
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: We had to fight the motherfucking Confederate flag. We had.

1031
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: We had to fight, you know, biggie ass motherfuckers in

1032
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: hip hop and nor The reason why, the reason why

1033
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm so surprised about you, because you was one of

1034
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: the few motherfuckers when them niggas was hating on us.

1035
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 6: Dog.

1036
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 2: You know how Wench sag hat No, no, them niggas

1037
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: was hating on us. You can't forget that he knew

1038
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: he was the fucker one of the only motherfucker dog.

1039
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: Bro.

1040
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: So so so you understand the imperialism. And I don't

1041
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 2: even go even further since I've been drinking shit, shit dog.

1042
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: They wouldn't give it to Redman and he was right

1043
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: across the fucking bridge. They wouldn't give it to fucking

1044
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: black Throat until he rapped fifteen fucking minutes straight. They

1045
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't give it to Common, They wouldn't give it to

1046
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: motherfucker Andre three thoughts. You know who they is, right, Yeah,

1047
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: they wouldn't give it to the West Coast until they

1048
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 2: stumped on building so Bro. That same imperialism, the same

1049
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: racism that they talk about, it reared its head in

1050
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: hip hop. But people are not men enough. And I

1051
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: will say this, Nord, and I mean it's because I

1052
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: love hip hop and I looked up to these niggas. Bro.

1053
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: All they had to do was show love. Bro. Bro,

1054
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: If they showed love, it was still because think about it, bro,

1055
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: we don't even put our heroes in songs, but we

1056
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: would always go and get Slick Rick. We will always

1057
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: go get KRS one. We will always find the New

1058
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: York motherfuckers that we had. We won't even bro, I'm

1059
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: telling you, bro, we won't even put our own We

1060
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: don't put tea love, we don't put a ball, like,

1061
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: why don't we put our own heroes the same way

1062
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: that we respect and revere other people. Bro. So for

1063
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: me like it would be a discredit to my people

1064
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: in the South, and for me to be in the

1065
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: forefront like you said that I am. For me to

1066
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: say anybody but the people that changed my fucking life,

1067
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: homie to the day that I die. Bro Dungeon family

1068
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: changed my life, Bro, and I ride for them niggas

1069
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: if they like me or not, Bro, because they changed

1070
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: the South. They changed and and them niggas was so

1071
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: hip hop. I'll give you a great example. Watch someone

1072
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: talking to my shit. You know this as a DJ.

1073
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: They may not want me to tell this, but you

1074
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: remember the remix uh, the outcast remix of Southern player Listic.

1075
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: I was already right. So that's the same sample from

1076
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: Mad Props. Because people don't know that I was a

1077
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: battle rapper. I'm a hip hop head from the youngsters.

1078
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: But they just took and put a piano over it,

1079
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: dumm dumn and with me because I'm a producer, I

1080
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 2: could hear the sample and the phantom noise from the headphones.

1081
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: I was like the motherfucker's and geniuses they took. They

1082
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 2: took fucking hip hop and put mud on it, bro,

1083
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you something. I gotta give a big

1084
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: shout out. The Big Daddy came. I played the godbox

1085
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: too for Big Daddy came, because I didn't know whether

1086
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: I wanted to put it out or not. And Big

1087
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: Daddy came called me back and said, David Banner, this

1088
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 2: is Southern hip hop. It's not people from the South

1089
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: trying to sound like they're from New York. He said, Bro,

1090
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: this is what southern hip hop is supposed to sound like.

1091
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: Because I remember telling cars one one time, Bro, I

1092
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: said that I really do got a Cadillac on twenty

1093
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: two's my homeboys did really sell dope. So my hip hop,

1094
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: if hip hop is really truly a life experience, it's

1095
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: just what you live in life, and our lifestyles are

1096
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: not the same.

1097
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 6: Kodak Black or twenty one Savage twenty one Savage Ghetto

1098
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 6: Boys are UGK never answered that question.

1099
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: We drinking drinking. We drink twice on that one.

1100
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 6: Okay Dead Present Black Star, ooh.

1101
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: The shot, m m hm hm. I'm trying to see

1102
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: what would I picked.

1103
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: Florida too, man, I mean, shut up, listen, I gotta

1104
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: go dead. That's a tough one. I gotta go there. Okay,

1105
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: I like this one. It's funny. Let me finish that

1106
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: funny because me and ty Lib but really really tight.

1107
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: And me and ty Lib are really really tight. And

1108
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: as of lately, I can't call him most death no more.

1109
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: Hay y're seen as that verse that he did on

1110
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: some of the last verses I've been hearing from him.

1111
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: He's stupid, Bro, He's stupid. But for the culture, Bro,

1112
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: I gotta stick to it. Yeah, shout out to stick

1113
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: and And this is one I always love. N W

1114
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: A public enemy. It's been Wu tang and twisted. Now

1115
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: n W A.

1116
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: Okay, Rap City or YO and TV raps, rap City,

1117
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: Black Thought or nas.

1118
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not asking. Come on, Okay, I guess

1119
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: come on, let's.

1120
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 4: Go Yeah, cast some water, Yeah, O d B or

1121
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 4: biz MARKI, I love this one, resting piece of.

1122
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 8: Both biz MARKI, okay, Okay. Michael Jackson or Prince Prince

1123
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 8: you got to meet, want to talk about that? I

1124
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 8: want to talk about that.

1125
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: I feel like we did we ever talk about it?

1126
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: All right? So, so so this is my thing about

1127
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 2: that for entertainment purposes, it's Michael Jackson all that for

1128
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: singles radio. But Prince, hands down is one of the

1129
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: most talented motherfuckers who have ever walked this planet. Everything.

1130
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: He played everything, and he was the youngest artist even

1131
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: when he was a teenager. He played every instrument on

1132
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: his record. He produced hisself. He's a fucking Jens advocated

1133
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: for ownership exactly, and he didn't need nobody else in

1134
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 2: the room but just him. You know, it's funny because

1135
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: all of my favorite artists are actually related. Prince's favorite

1136
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 2: artist is Curtis Mayfield. Andre three thousand favorite artists was Prince,

1137
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: So it's like all three of them. It was a

1138
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: line of the people who I've always yeah yeah, yeah,

1139
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: yeah so. But Prince, from an artist's perspective, just straight

1140
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: up getting in the studio by yourself. Nobody else is there.

1141
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: That's why I have such a deep respect for big

1142
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: crit I have such a deep respect for teeth haining,

1143
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 2: the people who are never really really talked about myself,

1144
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: who don't really need anybody because nory, I tell you

1145
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: something that I thought about, Bro, my career would have

1146
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: been so much bigger if I would have had like

1147
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: a and RS that I could listen to, that could

1148
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: really bring me beats because, like, think about it, all

1149
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: of my hits really came from some shit that I did.

1150
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's the hardest fuck to do, bro,

1151
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: on that level all the time, because all vibing is

1152
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: is lining up with God. To even say, think about

1153
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: the Bible and how many people who are actually in

1154
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: the presence of God. When we say we vibing, that's

1155
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: when we zoning out and you actually in the presence

1156
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: of the most High. So even if you did that

1157
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: one time, think about it, like a pip could have

1158
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: been the only time that I ever was close to God.

1159
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: But I've done that. That's shit hard, bro.

1160
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 6: Like a man's gotta feel good, they gotta feel better

1161
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 6: than someone else producing, and you did everything yourself.

1162
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: I'd rather I don't give a fuck whether it's somebody

1163
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: else write it, produce it. That hip hop shit, I'm

1164
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: telling you, Bro, Bro, we get so into that. I

1165
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: used to be into that shit, bro. But the real

1166
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: truth is, Bro, you got to get the record. I'll

1167
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 2: cry in my Lamborghini later on, you know what I'm saying.

1168
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: When I had that hit record, But like, Bro, you

1169
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 2: put yourself through so much emotionally, and you got to

1170
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: think our bodies that we don't These are the conversations

1171
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: we don't dive into. Bro. Our bodies are changing. Life

1172
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: is changing. You know. The time that we decide to

1173
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: do the album may not be the time that God

1174
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 2: wants us to do it, and so sometimes we for shit,

1175
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 2: that's just not there, y'all. When I'm happy and I'm healthy,

1176
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it's too many motherfuckers on this planet

1177
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: that can fuck with me. But it's so hard to

1178
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: get in them spaces, in them places. Who next you

1179
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: gotta be on that frequency? Yeah? Analog or digital? Analogue?

1180
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that.

1181
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: E P. M. D or Gangstar. Oh oh.

1182
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: Oh, that's so not a drinks It would make you

1183
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: make people answer the ship, right, that's smart. No, I

1184
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: just say I don't want to answer that to drink.

1185
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: Let me take a drink.

1186
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, no, no, no a damn oh yeah,

1187
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: I drink. Okay, that's smart. Prinston, piece of Guru ship

1188
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: Forrell or Timberland for real. Well, let me say this

1189
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: the Neptunes together, Okay, let me be clear. Let me

1190
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: be clear, bro, there there is a soul that that

1191
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: Chad brought that people don't talk about enough. I missed

1192
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: the Neptunes. Yeah, you know, I missed that. You don't

1193
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 2: have to call era that almost that that that that

1194
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: synthetic soul, sixty soul that they used to do. Bro Like,

1195
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: I missed that ship, bro, Like, Yeah, I agree Forrell.

1196
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: Pharrell and the.

1197
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 9: Neptunes by far have influenced me a lot. Yeah, Yeah,

1198
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 9: that's yeah, that's dope me too. Soldier Boy, Bow Wow,

1199
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 9: Soldier Boy, Soldier Boy. Tell BB King or Bo Diddley

1200
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 9: BB King? You went fast now.

1201
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: Rock? Okay, all right, hold on, but I got to

1202
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 2: say this. It's crazy, Bro, I no care iris one.

1203
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: It's fire like he said he talked about being on

1204
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: a record. Bro, it was the craziest ship in the world.

1205
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: And they're still doing it at.

1206
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: Getting showed good, getting good shoes, getting good show man.

1207
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: I was so proud of my old g's. I see

1208
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,919
Speaker 1: a couple of the office. I was like, Okay, they're

1209
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: getting it as they should.

1210
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 2: Bro. I was a fiend before I became a team

1211
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: of letting the microphone instead of closing ice can music orientated?

1212
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: Someone originated it like piece is a puzzle complicated because

1213
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: I grabbed the mic and trying to say yes to

1214
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 2: take it. They said it out too small, cool to

1215
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: get upset. I put a hold in the speaker, put

1216
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: the plug tonight. Yet he the reason why I wanted

1217
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: to wrap. Bro. I never heard no ship like that

1218
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,959
Speaker 2: in my whole life, Bro.

1219
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: I got to experience something, sorry to cut in with,

1220
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: I got to experience something. We were in master pil

1221
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: office and Nas comes to me and he goes Eric

1222
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: being Rock Kim has a concerts like this, the first

1223
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: time they've been together in years. He's like, dude, do

1224
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: you think we're supposed to go?

1225
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: And I was like, are you leaving this ship up

1226
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: to me? Wait?

1227
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: He asked you should you guys like should we go?

1228
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: And me and Nas went to and this was the

1229
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: This was the best because this was like for me,

1230
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: this was like the student watching the master is still

1231
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: at work. And then when Rock him starts going into

1232
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: these certain records that I didn't know. I looked at

1233
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: Nas and Nas knew every word word for word. Yeah,

1234
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: he knew every word, and it made me say that

1235
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: like it was like the karate can't watch and I

1236
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: saw that, I guess, So I got to see that

1237
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: David Man like, like, first off, rock Kim and Eric

1238
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: b be great of getting together.

1239
01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: No, no, that was amazing.

1240
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: But to see the other person that took over that

1241
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: lane and to see that he's still a fan, it

1242
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 1: was like so amazing to me. I love that shit

1243
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: so want to.

1244
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 2: Say something else. Throw some DS on That Bitch by

1245
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: Rich Boy. I think is my favorite most complete song.

1246
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: It used to be Luccini. Yeah, it just made me

1247
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: feel a certain kind of way. But I don't think

1248
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: we give our flowers to to to places and people

1249
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: who don't have the light from other people. Bro, that

1250
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: song has stood to test the time. You see Kendrick

1251
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: rapping over it right now. He's talking slick dope ship,

1252
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: a dope ass hug polo on the beat, and that

1253
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: bitch feels so good. That's yeah, that's a beat that

1254
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: I wish. That's why Boy made that was mine and

1255
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: that remix that they did for that one man came

1256
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 2: up to Scott with his fluid. It came crazy.

1257
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: That leads me to the next one. Kendrick or Drake Kendrick,

1258
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: you look like a Kendrick type of nigga, look like

1259
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 1: I ain't even man, you gonna lie, Like if I

1260
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: if I I guess what was in your playlist, I'll

1261
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: be like, Kendrick, what I would say that in a

1262
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: good way, That's what I.

1263
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: Would say though. What I will say though, is that

1264
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: Drake won my respect. You know, as far as music

1265
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 2: and putting hit rappers together. You gotta get that boy,

1266
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: it's fucking you. Got to give him his credit, like

1267
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 2: from being able to market itself and create at the

1268
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: level consistently as he did.

1269
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 4: Bro.

1270
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 2: And I'm a rapper, rapper, and I was like, Nah,

1271
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 2: that shit, dope, that motherfucker raped.

1272
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: He's sing.

1273
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 2: He the complete package. You can't you can't deny that.

1274
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: It's just for me. What tips the scale for Kendrick

1275
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: to me is it's activism. And that's what tip the

1276
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: scales for me with pop. Right, If you can rap

1277
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: all that shit, cool, but kids dying, bro, Like we

1278
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,959
Speaker 2: can talk all this party shit, that's cool. But racism

1279
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: is real. Colonialism is real. Motherfuckers is hurting, you know.

1280
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,839
Speaker 2: And so for him to put thought into his music

1281
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 2: and for that to be something different and something deeper,

1282
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: bro like purpose, purpose, I have to give it to him.

1283
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: And what's crazy is artists like him as popular as

1284
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: he may be, the world really don't shed the light

1285
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: on him that he deserves. Think how big that song was, Bro,

1286
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: you should see him everywhere on everything the same way

1287
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: you heard it in the car marketing in America. Ship

1288
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: reflect that, but it doesn't for a reason. Even the

1289
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:10,440
Speaker 2: tour is successful.

1290
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: It is right now, you're not really hearing about the

1291
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: tour for him a Dominican version of the Dominican people

1292
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: were saying the wrong version.

1293
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 2: Of what there was.

1294
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 1: They staying, what you said, that's hilarious. They translated it

1295
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: totally wrong, right, They redid his song and translated it wrong,

1296
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: and no one said nothing like, yes, yes, that's how

1297
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: big that that record is. I'm that serious.

1298
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 10: I get the record cash money or no limit drinking serious,

1299
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 10: shout out.

1300
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: That's why we gotta do the soft niggas shout shout

1301
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: out the Koe. They care not go against the South.

1302
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: I respect that.

1303
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 1: That's that's the though. Rick Rick Rosster T.

1304
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 2: I come on, Bro, Bro rubber Man.

1305
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 4: T.

1306
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: I In my music career. If there's anybody that I

1307
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: would say has always been a part of my life

1308
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: in some kind of way, it's been Tipped. Tip has

1309
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 2: been one of the few people in this music ship.

1310
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: Every time I call him, he show up. I'll tell

1311
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 2: you something that I wouldn't have said on nobody else's show.

1312
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: The last records I produced, I think it was on

1313
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: Dime Trap. I didn't charge Tip and about my motherfucking money.

1314
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: Them fucking Ferrari's costs a lot of money, and I

1315
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: didn't want to charge him because I just wanted him

1316
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: to be us, to be in the studios. It used

1317
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: to not be about money, because the real truth is

1318
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: if me and Tip or Tip and Tumb get in

1319
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: the studio by ourselves with none of these motherfucking distractions

1320
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: came down and stop us. Bro, that's like fucking Jay

1321
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: Jay and Jess Blaze getting in there with none of

1322
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: the money shit on their mind. And I told Tip brother, like, Bro,

1323
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: I didn't realize we hadn't been in the studio in

1324
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: ten years. I was like, Bro, let's just get back in. Bro.

1325
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: Fuck that money shit. And it ain't too many people

1326
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: that I say that about, Like, I don't really care

1327
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 2: about what he think about me, Like, he's always been

1328
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: an admirable man to me. He's always showed up for

1329
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 2: me whenever I needed for Mississippi, when when shit happened

1330
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: in Katrina, Chip got on the fucking radio and say,

1331
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: all you motherfucker's talking. Y'all got money to get a hood,

1332
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: some motherfucking money. Benna is trying to help his motherfucking people.

1333
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: Fuck y'all on the radio, raised thirty thousand and gave

1334
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: it to me. Just like that, Banner go, I know

1335
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna do the right ship with him, Like Chip

1336
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 2: is one of the few people on this planet, bro

1337
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: who he he settled and cool with the good and

1338
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: the bad in his life. You know who's like that too?

1339
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 2: The ghost is like that. Styles styles P is like

1340
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: that styles Pol his life. Styles P called me one time.

1341
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 2: It's like Banners like, well, like I'd rather be on

1342
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: this positive ship, but if the nigga shit come on cool.

1343
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: Styles is the most amazing like me, Like he's like

1344
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: he styles out of place with me that he don't

1345
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: even know, Like Styles has done some ship for me.

1346
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: Bro that anyway, But Tip, Bro, I'll tell you all

1347
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: the story about Tip. He didn't know I was dating

1348
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 2: this girl that was on this move that he was on.

1349
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 2: He was in Africa shooting the movie, and she told

1350
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: me that he said somebody in the room said my

1351
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: name and they said. Tip just raised his head. He said,

1352
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 2: just want y'all to know it's my homie. Watch what

1353
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: the fuck the next thing come out your mouth and

1354
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: put his head back down. And it's not the ship

1355
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 2: that people say when you're around. It's the ship that

1356
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 2: they say when you don't know is right right? Exactly?

1357
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 2: Bro for a motherfucker. And I tell you another story.

1358
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: Tip was in the room with a bunch of diplomats.

1359
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: He don't even know that I know this, and they asked, Tip,

1360
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: who you go to when it's something that you want

1361
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 2: to know about. Somebody in that room told me he said,

1362
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 2: David Better. Tip know Obama. Tip knows some of the

1363
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: smartest people on the planet. For him to even save

1364
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: my name in that room too, yeah, yeah. So for me, Bro, like,

1365
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: I have so much admiration for what he stands for

1366
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: and what he is. And I also want to say this,

1367
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 2: I should have said this before that ship that happened

1368
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: with Tipping. The media, Black people didn't support him when

1369
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 2: he was going through some of the worst times in

1370
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 2: the media. Then we found out the ship that was

1371
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: said about him that wasn't true. That dude lost at

1372
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 2: man that that dude lost his place in Marble and

1373
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: black people didn't even come back and reinstate that dude

1374
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: lost millions. Bro, I forgot and we didn't hold him down.

1375
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: They took him out that fucking you know how heart

1376
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 2: it is, get black folks in marble, ducking serious.

1377
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: Did That's real?

1378
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: And we didn't even reinstate. We didn't even come back

1379
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: and say, dog, we're sorry. None of that ship, bro.

1380
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: And I looked at him and I told him that.

1381
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: He said, Man, I can't say that, So I said,

1382
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: there goes.

1383
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: We said, we got Tipped back over my homie suit man.

1384
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: He's always been a real one.

1385
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: To me. I can't even think of a time if

1386
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: I go to Atlanta without calling him. You know, hey,

1387
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 2: y'all wanna tell y'all something about Tip though, Chip one

1388
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: of the motherfuckers.

1389
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: Bro.

1390
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: He ain't got no problems.

1391
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 3: Bro.

1392
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 2: I remember one time I see it. Tip, Tip is,

1393
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 2: Tip is at peace with wherever he is in life.

1394
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 2: And to me, that's a real man. A real man

1395
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: isn't isn't the decisions that you make, it's do you

1396
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: bitch about it when what you did comes to the light.

1397
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 2: And I've never seen my homie. Bitch about ship ras

1398
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: cast are exhibit ras Cast, ras Cast. A lot of

1399
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 2: people don't know this, Bro, ras Cast, me and Rascast's

1400
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: roommates in New York for what.

1401
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: I got here, I never knew that nothing. That's my

1402
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: homie too.

1403
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 2: During the penalty, During the penalty, Yeah, that was my

1404
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 2: It used to be my roommate. Me and rascalst Are

1405
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: really really fucking time. And what's crazy is that people

1406
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 2: don't know Exhibit took ras cast place and Dre's unit.

1407
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: People don't think it. Said, I'm a historian when it

1408
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 2: comes to hip hop. You remember when ras cast left

1409
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: and came to New York? Who took a spot with Dre?

1410
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 2: That makes sense now, exhibit Yeah, And I was like,

1411
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: I saw all of that ship happened, Bro. Ras Cast

1412
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: has some tapes. Bro, when I was dusty and sleeping

1413
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 2: on the floor. Bro, when I looked at the camera

1414
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: and I told her, I said, Bro, one day, people

1415
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: don't have to pay me my just due matter of fact,

1416
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: matter fact. Wow, ras Cast was with us tonight. That

1417
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: the that the what I just tell y'all about, I've

1418
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: been drinking. Who did I just tell y'all about?

1419
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: No?

1420
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: The dude from the Foojies, no me and was with

1421
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: him that night, all right, And people don't know how

1422
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: many like historical l A groups that rass had rass

1423
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: casts had a hand and helping them getting the spot

1424
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: lyrics huge part of.

1425
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: That that l A underground scene and one of.

1426
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 2: The most intelligent. Do you know about his kids?

1427
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: Yes?

1428
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, just making sure cultures off the check Okay,

1429
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: mob Deep or m O p dammit? Far are we're

1430
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: doing better? Mob Deep? Oh?

1431
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Biggie a big punt, Biggie young dog or future.

1432
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 2: Okay? So ah hm. Paul wall all a little flipper

1433
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: flip good for obvious reasons, for obvious Yeah, Paul Waller

1434
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 2: is one of the Paul wall is one of the

1435
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: most genuine people on this planet. Paul wall seen me

1436
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: at one of the weakest times in my life and

1437
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 2: he's never talked about it. I got into a really

1438
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: bad fight. Uh, Paul wall was there? Wow? I punched

1439
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: a Yeah. I fought from the lobby all the way up.

1440
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: They were gonna call the police on him. My boys

1441
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: ripped the phone out of the dawn and I was

1442
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: so embarrassed. Right, didn't want Paul wall to see me

1443
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 2: that way, and Paul Wall never told nobody about that ship.

1444
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah like I yeah, Paul Wall see me at my worst,

1445
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: Paul Wallely. I apologized, Bro, I hate you saw that

1446
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: part of David band. He saw the old David man.

1447
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: Was taking a shot for that too. I'm sorry.

1448
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: You just made it.

1449
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: He just made it sentimental, like.

1450
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 2: He said. I mean, dog flip changed my life. Dug like, yeah,

1451
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about that for a lead to Yeah, yeah,

1452
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: hell all right, young we did that LA in Miami.

1453
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that one is you. I'm in Miami right now. Yeah,

1454
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 2: I take one. But let me tell you all this now.

1455
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm in Miami. So that's the reason why I'm a drink.

1456
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: But l A, I do want to say something. LA

1457
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: changed my life. A lot of times we pray to God,

1458
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, for success and the things that we want.

1459
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: L A showed me the type of love that they

1460
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: don't show many black young black men. I never told

1461
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: his story in my life. I was in the club

1462
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: in LA. This dude walked up behind me whispered in

1463
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 2: my ear, David, Beanna, we know you live here. We

1464
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: respect what you do for the people. And I never

1465
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: turned around because I got to sting if you lock

1466
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: eyes with motherfuckers. Done something else that happened to me.

1467
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: One time I was jogging past Tap Projects I used

1468
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: to stay in Harlem. People didn't know I stayed in

1469
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: Harlem for six years. Right down the street from Tap Projects,

1470
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: dude said the same thing, we know you in the hood,

1471
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 2: but you're good. I never looked back, kept jogging, but

1472
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: LA showed me like I didn't know the type of

1473
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 2: motherfuckers I was around in LA until I left LA,

1474
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 2: and them dudes looked after me. Them dudes showed me

1475
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 2: a certain amount of grace and love that they don't

1476
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: show most black men. And I don't know whether it

1477
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 2: was because of what I stand for. I know that

1478
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: it had something to do with God, and that was

1479
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: the reason why I say, sometimes God blesses you with

1480
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 2: protection instead of all the things that you think you

1481
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: need and you want. Bro Man, LA loved on me

1482
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: so fucking much. One of the biggest mistakes that I

1483
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: ever made in my career is I didn't know how

1484
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: much love I had in the Mexican community. As a

1485
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: matter of fact, we had this conversation today. I never

1486
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 2: wanted tattoos in my life. But mister Cartoon did all

1487
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 2: of my tattoos, and it was for a spiritual reason,

1488
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 2: you know. And I didn't even know about the funds.

1489
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what he had tattooed on my back,

1490
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. With Gotty and all of them,

1491
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: Goby took me over there, and that's a certain amount

1492
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: of there's a certain amount of culture that's on my

1493
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: back that's way bigger than what I knew. I didn't

1494
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 2: even know the responsibility that he put on my back.

1495
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: And so La has a place in my heart. Bro

1496
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: The Bay Area has a place in my heart. When

1497
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 2: my career went down. You know a lot of people

1498
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 2: like to think it was the South, but you know,

1499
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: the Bay Area put me back on when stuff got

1500
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: like play got broke in the Bay besides Jackson like

1501
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: me break a lot of records, broke that record like like,

1502
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest with you, you know. And so

1503
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 2: my love for the West Coast and what they did

1504
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: for me and we got our independent hustle from them,

1505
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Motherfucker's talking all this with

1506
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 2: everybody smoking weed and all that kind of shit. But

1507
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 2: they made that shit popular. And so for me, what

1508
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: I went through in La, my transformation is acting shit.

1509
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 1: Bro.

1510
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 2: That shit was all in LA, and I love LA

1511
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: and I appreciate LA.

1512
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 6: I don't know if you remember I checked you when

1513
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 6: you were in the studio in LA. I was visiting

1514
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 6: my family out there and then I hit you and

1515
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 6: you was like, yo, come through. I think it was

1516
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 6: in the studio city and I want to checked you

1517
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 6: out and you had your whole setup.

1518
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, l A l A was good. And you

1519
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: gotta think I was a black man with a Bentley

1520
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: in LA with a hit song with Chris Brown.

1521
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: I was not you're gonna do this last that, You're

1522
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: gonna into the back, into the interview. This is I'm

1523
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: not gonna lead the witness.

1524
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 2: Don't lead the witness.

1525
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lead the witness. Loyalty or respect ye respect,

1526
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: respect by far?

1527
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: If if if I say loyalty, then I leave it

1528
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: on you. Fuck that. I'd rather motherfucker fear me. Motherfuckers

1529
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: need to be clear. This kind David Banner, This at peace,

1530
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 2: David Banner. I am much more dangerous than I was

1531
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 2: when I was popping ship. All that tough ship is fear.

1532
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 2: If you a killer, all you gotta do is killed. Yeah.

1533
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: You never ever in your life have ever ever seen

1534
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: a campo master mad out of control. All I gotta

1535
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: do is break your fucking face. Like, bro, at the

1536
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: end of the day, dog, like I be wanting to

1537
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 2: tell people like, I always got my pistol on me,

1538
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 2: always got my pistol on me. And sometimes I remember

1539
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 2: telling the dude this one time, Dog, I love you

1540
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: more than you love yourself because you don't know how

1541
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 2: close you are to it. Like there's something awful about me. Dog,

1542
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: I just happen to love people so much.

1543
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 6: Bro, But.

1544
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't like.

1545
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't like like I was telling my publicist this.

1546
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 2: I was telling Sidney this.

1547
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: Like.

1548
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 2: They have a problem because I pop off. They don't

1549
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 2: give a fuck. But I told her, I was like,

1550
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: the only time you ever have problems with me is

1551
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 2: when somebody's mistreating black people. You ain't never seen me

1552
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: get mad about shit, but the liberation of black people,

1553
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: that's the only fucking thing I get mad about. We

1554
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 2: knew fuckers was sucking usself with Nori because me and

1555
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 2: you talked about it. We let that ship slide. I

1556
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: let everything slide. But when they mistreat weak people, that's

1557
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 2: the only thing that makes me mad. Nigga, you got

1558
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: all the fucking muscles, and you want to pick on

1559
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: the little kid. You want to pick on a defenseless woman.

1560
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: You a pussy. That's the ship I don't like. Bro,

1561
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that drives me. Bro Like, I

1562
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 2: don't fuck with nobody, dog, I don't beg from nobody.

1563
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't borrow from nobody. That's the only thing that

1564
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 2: drives me and make me mad. Shouldn't nobody had nothing

1565
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: to do say about David Banner because I have never,

1566
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 2: ever in my life tried to intentionally fuck over nobody.

1567
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 2: You know, if I fucked your mom, I'm sorry.

1568
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 11: I didn't know that was your mom's mom.

1569
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: I did, so let me ask.

1570
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: So after penalty the cooked letters, you went to your

1571
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: solo career, and then it was with Steve Rifkin correct

1572
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: s r C r C was sr C or was

1573
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: it r C s r C? So that's after the

1574
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: loud regiment.

1575
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Correct I was the one.

1576
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I popped off. He popped I remember I met

1577
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: him right at that moment. Right, So let us know,

1578
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: let us describe to us people wasn't around that transition

1579
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: from Penalty Records, which was a super independent who had

1580
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: distribution through Tommy Boy, but it was still independent and

1581
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: they were they were Penny Pension and now you got

1582
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: one of the hottest labels. This guy popped off Tang Clan,

1583
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: but he's in a transition to sr C. Was an

1584
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: experiment and that.

1585
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: Was the big budget you remember, Bro, Tommy Boy at

1586
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: that time had just about everybody that ended up popping. Remember,

1587
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 2: was not by.

1588
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Nature over there, you know, that was Rackhem.

1589
01:29:54,920 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 2: That was before we Bu Tang. Think about that. Car

1590
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: Dan was over there was over there with it supposed to.

1591
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Be on Penalty but they had not Nature, they had

1592
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa, they had Bro.

1593
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 2: It was a lot of what Little John was over

1594
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: at Tommy Boy. Do you remember the Lyrical Giants, which

1595
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 2: had a lot of TV about Little John was producing

1596
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 2: the Lyrical Giants. What you said, it was a lot

1597
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: going on over there at the time, brou And that's

1598
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Bro, Like we were around a lot

1599
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 2: of fucking dope ship at the time. And that's the reason, man,

1600
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: no bullshit. Bro. I have love, respect and admiration that

1601
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 2: I have for you, Bro, because.

1602
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Hold, because I want to get to this SR thing

1603
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: because my bad, my back. I apologize. This is about you,

1604
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: because now this is a label low it was the

1605
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 1: hottest label. But he started his own independent s r C.

1606
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: I believe that stand for Steve Rifkin Company, which is

1607
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: what he had before. For I think, Lord, actually, where

1608
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 1: where are you? Where are you staying with this? How

1609
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: does this? How does this deal come about?

1610
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 2: All right? You want those story stories? Yeah? I mean

1611
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 2: all right, so I want for my own. So this

1612
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 2: is the crazy shit right I had. And for people

1613
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 2: who are in the music industry, they understand this. I

1614
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: had eight hundred spins on the radio with like a pimp,

1615
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 2: and most of the people on Universal didn't have eight

1616
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 2: hundred spins. And I was sleeping in the van. I

1617
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 2: was literally homeless. I built the studio in my own van,

1618
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 2: like I went to Walmart and got a converter and

1619
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: literally like built since since people didn't want to go

1620
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 2: with me, I built. If you listen to Mississippi the

1621
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 2: album the ter Lose, you can hit a wind because

1622
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 2: literally I had a mic, literally a mic in between

1623
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: my legs, steering wheel here and I was driving.

1624
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I had driving and spinning on the market.

1625
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I was. I asked DJ from the Moon

1626
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 2: as DJ Dude, no boyshit. That's why I tell these

1627
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 2: kids ain't no fucking I built a studio in my

1628
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 2: fucking band. Bro, go back and listen to the motherfucker.

1629
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 5: You ain't hear me.

1630
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: So so so motherfuckers couldn't understand, like how this dusty

1631
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 2: motherfucker in Mississippi got all of these spins right. The

1632
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 2: reason why I went with Steve Rifkins was because that

1633
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: white boy got some gumptionh Bro. I went out to La.

1634
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 2: Everybody was coming at me, Bro, and Steve Rifkins said, Bro,

1635
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm not letting you out this door. I never saw

1636
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 2: no white boy that like. He literally got in front

1637
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 2: of the door and said, you're not going home till

1638
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 2: we finished talking. And I'm like, what fuck. If you

1639
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 2: don't get out the you're gonna have a problem. That

1640
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: Steve has always been hard nos, Like if some ship

1641
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,919
Speaker 2: popped off, Steve going, and whether he whooping, the motherfucker

1642
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: asked and he couldn't whoop Steve's fucking going. Steve is

1643
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: one of the white boys that you fight and you

1644
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 2: can whoop the shit out of man. He's still gonna

1645
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 2: scratch over.

1646
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:12,639
Speaker 6: The big.

1647
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 2: And Steve had always been that way. And what's funny

1648
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 2: about Steve. Steve never knew the respect and the admiration

1649
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: that I had from him. I did a freestyle one

1650
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: time and I said, it's Steve Rifkin, stiff a nigga.

1651
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: Then I'm back on the block. He thought I was

1652
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 2: dissing him, and I was just saying, if Steve Rifkin

1653
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: decide he don't want to fuck with me, and then

1654
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 2: I got to go back to the ship I used

1655
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 2: to do. And he thought I was dissing him. No, dog,

1656
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 2: like you changed my life, I changed your life. The

1657
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 2: only problem that I have with these companies is that, Bro,

1658
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: I I was the one that fused your company. I

1659
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 2: know that it don't say it in the contracts. That's

1660
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: not worth anything.

1661
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Bro, you just sold you al for his depth Jay.

1662
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just sold your company like, Bro, send me

1663
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 2: another Ferrari hommy, Like that's.

1664
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 1: How I do.

1665
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 2: Like, no bullshit I did. I just finished well. Two

1666
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: years ago, I finished a really big fundraiser for this

1667
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 2: really big company, and I made so much money. I

1668
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 2: doubled their profits, right, and they were not expecting it,

1669
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,560
Speaker 2: and they gave me a big bonus. I had like

1670
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty people on my staff. I gave

1671
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: you like fifty sixty people a bonus out of my

1672
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 2: money because I made so much fucking money for doing

1673
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 2: a good job. And I remember my little hommy that

1674
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: I pulled out the streets. I gave him a nice

1675
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 2: little check and he was like, Banner, I ain't even

1676
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 2: do nothing. I was like, well, bro, you were here

1677
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: when shit was bad. I'm giving you back paid. But

1678
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 2: when you did shit and it wasn't successful, And he

1679
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 2: was like, damn, ain't nobody ever did that before. I

1680
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 2: don't know if that's in their spirit to do, but

1681
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: that's all I ever wanted from Steve. Like, Bro, like

1682
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 2: we did some ship that didn't nobody do, and we

1683
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: came from the bottom, homye, Like, just you know, we

1684
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 2: didn't we didn't have Wu Tang's success. But without the

1685
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 2: David Banner you would have never got to the a.

1686
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: You guys ushered a whole Yeah, yeah, you know, but

1687
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: but but the.

1688
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 2: Thing is, Bro, is if Steve means the world to me,

1689
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,839
Speaker 2: Steve came to Mississippi, he Steve got in the trenches.

1690
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 2: Steve did some ship that a lot of motherfuckers that

1691
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 2: looked just like me wouldn't. Dude, Like, if if there

1692
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 2: was a if there was a white boy in the

1693
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 2: industry that I would fuck with to this day, it

1694
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 2: would be Steve Riskin, you know what I'm saying.

1695
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 6: And I think to give credit to other people in

1696
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 6: that in that era, to shout out to TJ and

1697
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 6: TJ's DJs that was very instrumental in that era of

1698
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 6: helping break a lot of artists.

1699
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 2: Man from out here. Hold on, I want to give

1700
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 2: a shout out to somebody. I never knew this, and well, yeah,

1701
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 2: I never knew this. Dante Ross actually was the person

1702
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 2: that brought me to Steve's attention, and Dante Ross was hot,

1703
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 2: and I was like, Bro, I never knew that. You

1704
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 2: told I was, I didn't know, And so I'd like

1705
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: to shout him out because I heard he was the

1706
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 2: one that you know, and he didn't get anything from

1707
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 2: the situation. You might had nothing to do with me,

1708
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 2: but I heard that years later. So shout out to

1709
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 2: Dante Ross. I thank you, bro, And.

1710
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:37,839
Speaker 1: Eventually you went to Atlantic Records.

1711
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 2: Correct, No, I just produced Thug Holiday and Rubber Band

1712
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 2: Man and all that I never went and I was

1713
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: to Steve Ricketts. So I'll tell you a secret that

1714
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 2: people don't know. I was independent fifteen years before people

1715
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 2: ever knew I was independent. And one of the reasons

1716
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 2: why I do have respect for Steve is I went

1717
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 2: to Steve one day and told Steve Eve, like, bro,

1718
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 2: I want to be you. I can't be you signing you.

1719
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 2: He said, are you sure David Ben I said yeah.

1720
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 2: He let me go back the next day. And so

1721
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 2: what I did was was when I remember one time

1722
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 2: I had four videos on MTV. A lot of people

1723
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 2: didn't notice, but I hired my own radio promoters, I

1724
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 2: hired my own video promoters, and I just never told

1725
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 2: people that I was independent. I just kept putting Universal

1726
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 2: on the sheet and they kept and I kept getting

1727
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 2: for like ten years. Bro, I was getting all of

1728
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: this fun, all these fucking accolades, and nobody ever knew

1729
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,560
Speaker 2: I was independent fifteen years before people ever knew. And

1730
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Universal wasn't tripping because they were getting the props for

1731
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 2: David Back was signing other artists because they were like,

1732
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: well yeah, And so I kept putting that on the

1733
01:37:53,280 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: call sheeting and people kept, yeah, that's fine, that's what man.

1734
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: I asked you this earlier. If you had to pick

1735
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: one profession from the beginning, acting, producing or being an

1736
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 1: artist from what you know now. If you can start

1737
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 1: from the beginning with all the information that you know now,

1738
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: and and and God says you're going to pick one,

1739
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: what would you pick.

1740
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 2: Let's take a drink, because God didn't say that that's

1741
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 2: the Let me tell you all this. It used to

1742
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 2: be a curse to me that I could do so

1743
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 2: much stuff because think about this, be honest, when I

1744
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: was close to being one of the top Southern rappers, right,

1745
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 2: I'll go and produce. When I started moving to that

1746
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: Timberlin in for real level of getting close to the

1747
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 2: Little John level, and I would go off and do activism,

1748
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 2: and I would go off and do speaking. Then the

1749
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: pandemic happened, and you got to think what rappers went through.

1750
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: I didn't have to go through that because I could

1751
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 2: go speak, I could go do movies, so like, I

1752
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 2: never really had to be into what other rappers been

1753
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 2: had to been to because I was getting money from

1754
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 2: so many different places. But the problem was I never

1755
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: became a I never became respected as a genius on

1756
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 2: any level, because every time I would get close to

1757
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 2: the top, I would shift something else.

1758
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Right.

1759
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 2: So now I just talked to AD Week this week

1760
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 2: in Miami, and that was one of the things that

1761
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: I talked about, is like when it comes to corporations

1762
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 2: and when I do the things that I do because

1763
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't even know.

1764
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 6: This, Bro.

1765
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 2: I produced the second biggest Gatorade commercial in history ever, Bro,

1766
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 2: And it was funny. This really happened in real life.

1767
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: Jimmy Smith, who was working at Shia Day at the time,

1768
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 2: the heads of Pepsicle was in the room. He walked

1769
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 2: in and say, this little motherfucker know what he doing,

1770
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:07,680
Speaker 2: y'all leave him alone and let him do what he

1771
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: do best. He know what he's doing. David better, let's go.

1772
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,959
Speaker 2: He's all these big billionaire motherfuckers. We walked right outside

1773
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 2: the room. The motherfucker looked at me and said, you

1774
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:21,599
Speaker 2: better know what you're doing. And I never have produced

1775
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 2: a commercial in my fucking life. And it ended up

1776
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 2: my first commercial was the second biggest commercial ever in history. Bro.

1777
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 2: So what I tell you is that, Bro, like, instead

1778
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 2: of saying which one would I pick? I think that

1779
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 2: would be spitting in God's face. Be thankful to God

1780
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 2: that I can do it at such a high level.

1781
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 2: One thing that people don't know is when I shot

1782
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 2: when I shot Family Business New Orleans, and I was

1783
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 2: shooting Family Business New Orleans and Fight Night at the

1784
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 2: same exact time. Bro, I was shooting two major TV

1785
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:00,559
Speaker 2: shows at the same time, coming out of my pression. Bro,

1786
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 2: people don't talk about that ship. Some motherfuckers can't do

1787
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 2: well with one show. I was shooting two shows, Bro,

1788
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 2: working on Jill Scott's album. You know what I'm saying,

1789
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:18,600
Speaker 2: fucking speaking at the same time, doing tacos and tequila tour. Bro, Like,

1790
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 2: that shit ain't human. And that's the one thing that

1791
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 2: I want to tell people, Bro, when they look at us, Dog,

1792
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 2: y'all are fucking fathers. Bro, y'all running this ship. You're

1793
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 2: still trying to run your own business. Fucking juicy, Bro.

1794
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:33,679
Speaker 2: I saw the other one, said.

1795
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 1: The other.

1796
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:42,640
Speaker 2: I got you, and Bro Like, even though I do it, Bro,

1797
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 2: it ain't fair. I try to tell my staff that, Bro.

1798
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Like.

1799
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm in the middle of we did run Champs,

1800
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: we did drink Champs. I got the f one ship

1801
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 2: going on. I had to speak at what was the ship.

1802
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 2: I spoke at ad week, and then audition came in.

1803
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: I gotta learn all these fucking lines, find a place

1804
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 2: to do my audition. But that's just not human. And

1805
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 2: although I do it, people didn't understand.

1806
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 4: Bro.

1807
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: For ten years straight, I did activism at the highest level.

1808
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 3: Bro.

1809
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 2: I produced at the highest level. I acted at a

1810
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 2: high level. Not at the highest level, but I'm getting better.

1811
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 2: I wrapped at the highest level, Bro, and still stayed

1812
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 2: a good human being.

1813
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 1: But let me ask you, that's that was something deep

1814
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: as you said right there, you still audition. Oh yeah,

1815
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: so what does that mean for a person? You have

1816
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 1: the role, but you have to prove that you can

1817
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:41,919
Speaker 1: hold your trying.

1818
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 2: Out for the role. Yeah.

1819
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they're offering you the role.

1820
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 2: No, Bro, it's if I audition, it's for some bigger shit.

1821
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's for some shit that's

1822
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 2: worth auditioning. And then the other thing is also for me,

1823
01:42:55,040 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 2: is a lot of times we get beside ourselves and

1824
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 2: I had to learn that in advertisement, Like as big

1825
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,559
Speaker 2: as I may have been at the time, that ain't

1826
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 2: shited to a multi billion dollar company like BRO. I

1827
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 2: got to get in there and I gotta show up

1828
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 2: and show out. One of the things that made my

1829
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: company so big and people didn't know how I was

1830
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 2: able to sustain so much money is because I would

1831
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 2: turn my shit in two weeks early. No artist has

1832
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 2: ever done that. Nobody has ever done that, And it's

1833
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,400
Speaker 2: because I knew, Bro, I'm gonna show y'all this, cameras

1834
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 2: get close to this. When I was doing Mercedes Bens,

1835
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,600
Speaker 2: I was also working on a movie. I decided to

1836
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 2: ride my bike to the studio shout out to Hector,

1837
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 2: and it was twenty miles. I rode nineteen miles, flipped

1838
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 2: and broke my arm in half. But I was producing

1839
01:43:56,120 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 2: a commercial for Mercedes Bens. Mexican dude, bro, it was funny.

1840
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 2: He was like, damn Houns, you fucked up, and he

1841
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 2: took his He took my backpack off my back and

1842
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 2: he McGuire a splint and he made my backpack into

1843
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 2: his splint and put my fucking and it was funny.

1844
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 2: I broke my arm so bad that it was actually short.

1845
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 2: It broke in half. It was so funny because I

1846
01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 2: had a Jewish doctor and he cursed when I walked

1847
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 2: in he saw my arm. He was like what the

1848
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 2: fuck they had never seen He said he only seen

1849
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 2: one break that bad in his life. It was a

1850
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 2: girl who was in a jeep and a jeep and

1851
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:38,879
Speaker 2: and I ended I ended up staying finishing the commercial

1852
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 2: and having surgery the next day. And people was like why.

1853
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 2: I was like, because they don't want to see black

1854
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 2: people make this kind of money. I knew that although

1855
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 2: I had broke my arm, if I didn't turn that

1856
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,560
Speaker 2: commercial in in time, they would find a way to

1857
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: say that I was lazy or that I didn't do

1858
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 2: my work, you know how they do us. And everybody

1859
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 2: asked me, like, why did you do that? I said,

1860
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 2: because I made ano money that I could have bought

1861
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 2: a RoboCop on.

1862
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1863
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: Did I answer your question? That was fine?

1864
01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take a people and you know, you know,

1865
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,640
Speaker 1: I know you've been to see Dave Chappelle. Yeah, and

1866
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: was it Ohio?

1867
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hi?

1868
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: And with something that I learned, right, So we were

1869
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 1: trying to like go there and just hold ourselves down.

1870
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't want nothing from Dave. We just

1871
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 1: wanted to get the interview and kind of like leave.

1872
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: And as we landed, we couldn't do nothing without Dave

1873
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: Chappelle permission, like you could set into a hotel. We

1874
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 1: couldn't get caught service. It was all like no, no, no,

1875
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Dave Chapelle already got you. It was like we want

1876
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 1: to buy our own.

1877
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 2: It was like, tell you something. So me and Dave

1878
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 2: are cool. I told you me and Corey and so

1879
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: the thing about Dave that he got to understand, Bro,

1880
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 2: I have money. I had a lot of money. I

1881
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 2: don't have that kind of money. So I had to

1882
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 2: tell Dave. Because you get around Dave Chappelle and time

1883
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 2: slows down, like I'm that serious, bro, Like I have

1884
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: to I have to leave because you look up, Bro,

1885
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 2: It'll be ten in the morning and and then it'd

1886
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 2: be four pm two days later.

1887
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:14,640
Speaker 3: Bro.

1888
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 2: So I remember, Bro, I was with Dave and I

1889
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 2: was about to leave. I was like, so I tried

1890
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 2: to sneak out, and Dave Chappelle said, oh, Dave, why

1891
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 2: are you leaving? David? I was like, fuck Dave Chappelle

1892
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: and ended up staying another two days.

1893
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

1894
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 2: It's almost like a void of happiness. Dog.

1895
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy about that. I love the

1896
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: fact that he locked down that little town and it's

1897
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 1: just his like he's the mayor that he don't have

1898
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: to say he's the mayor. He's just the mayor, you

1899
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1900
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 2: I remember he had the Burger people there.

1901
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we finished.

1902
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 2: He's like they got the DJ. Yeah, so I'll be

1903
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 2: back on now this. So I want to I want

1904
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 2: to take this time to say something about two people

1905
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 2: that's really important to me. Number one, the comedian Ryan Davis. Bro,

1906
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 2: he's fucking amazing dude. And Ryan Davis introduced me to Ali,

1907
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 2: and me and Ali we have this unspoken competition of

1908
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:30,719
Speaker 2: helping each other and supporting each other. Alid is Muslim

1909
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 2: and I met him, Bro, and the dude actually man

1910
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: to a certain degree, changed the way that I looked

1911
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 2: at hip hop and entertainment and Bro, it shook me.

1912
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 2: So Ryan took me to a show and it was

1913
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: really funny. I ain't gonna tell you that story. Yeah

1914
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 2: it was funny, but I told him. I was like, Bro,

1915
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: we as black men have to do better. We're keeping

1916
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,720
Speaker 2: up with each other. We always say we got each other,

1917
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 2: we got each other. My motherfuckers don't never show up.

1918
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 2: When you call people for the album, they say they

1919
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 2: got you, and then you call them they won't pick

1920
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 2: up the fucking phone. And so I told Ali. I

1921
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: was like, Bro, I'm a fly to Houston because he's

1922
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 2: from Houston. I was like, Bro, I want to sit

1923
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 2: down and talk to you. And we got to start

1924
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 2: congregating with each other and Alis and Dick said, let

1925
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 2: me be clear with you about something. David, he said,

1926
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 2: I'm Muslim. He said, so when you give me your word,

1927
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 2: that means life and death to me, Like y'all say

1928
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 2: word is bun Like, we am not playing with that shit.

1929
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 2: He's like, so, if you say that you want to

1930
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 2: kick it with me, Bro, be prepared. I wasn't used

1931
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 2: to a motherfucker. I'm used to checking motherfuckers, not motherfuckers

1932
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 2: like checking me. And I was like, what should motherfucker?

1933
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm dad serious about the shit I do. And so

1934
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Bro we stayed in contact and he told me some

1935
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 2: of y'all that changed my life. He said, them other motherfuckers,

1936
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 2: they don't really fuck with us, those of us who

1937
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 2: have honor and that are really about the ship that

1938
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 2: we say. The motherfuckers don't really want us around. They're

1939
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 2: waiting for us to fall off, and we ain't going nowhere,

1940
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 2: And so what he taught me is that we got

1941
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,839
Speaker 2: to create our own communities. Nor you so how powerful

1942
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 2: it was this morning when we was running. And now

1943
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm taking a shot. You got me, hype man. I'm

1944
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 2: just being honest. Whatever shot you got left just got

1945
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 2: me hYP No. No, I'm saying. Ali told me he

1946
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 2: was like, better fuck the niggas. Bro, He's like those

1947
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 2: of us, that's real. If it ain't but five or

1948
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 2: ten of us, then I'm cool with that. And so

1949
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,839
Speaker 2: I'm done with trying to hang out with these niggas.

1950
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm tired of conforming to these weak motherfuckers who don't

1951
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 2: care about the coaching and don't care about the people.

1952
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 2: If you pussy hang with the pussies, dog, that's it.

1953
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 2: Drink look damn shout after a Ryan Davis. Let's go now.

1954
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,799
Speaker 1: This is this is pretty much what if there's anything

1955
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: you could take back this whole time you've been in

1956
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: the industry, it's one thing you could take back to

1957
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 1: make better, what would it be?

1958
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 2: I would treat myself better. I'm my biggest enemy, I'm

1959
01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 2: my biggest critic. You know. People love me, people honor me,

1960
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 2: people respect me. I don't honor and respect myself. How

1961
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 2: did you mistreat yourself? Though? Too hard on myself. I

1962
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 2: didn't give myself grace. You know. My mentor told me this,

1963
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:27,679
Speaker 2: Dave Moody, he said, he said, David, Bro, you didn't

1964
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 2: have any mentors. You didn't had nobody to show you

1965
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 2: the right way. You were from Mississippi. It's like you

1966
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 2: got it how you live. And he's like, Bro, that's admirable.

1967
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 2: He said. You do better when you experience better when

1968
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 2: you know better. And so like Bro, I love myself.

1969
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 2: I treat myself better. I was telling somebody on another show,

1970
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 2: I date myself. I take myself out. You know what

1971
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I told you I did this seven miles

1972
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 2: while I was here because I was on a beautiful

1973
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 2: beach around beautiful women. You run a little bit further

1974
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 2: than when a.

1975
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 1: Secon motherfucker and the kinnon said, what is some nice cakes?

1976
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But no, man, I just

1977
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 2: I just wish I would have treated myself better. I

1978
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:12,080
Speaker 2: wish I would have known that I was worthy. I

1979
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 2: tell y'all this quick story. I interviewed many fresh, and

1980
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 2: many fresh told me that when I used to come

1981
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 2: to the studio back in the day, like him and

1982
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 2: Jazzy Fai used to always talk about how dope I

1983
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 2: was as a producer, and it hurt me a little

1984
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 2: bit because I was like, Bro, imagine if Jazzy Fay

1985
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 2: would have told me that back then, like Bro, it

1986
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: would like Jazzy Fay means so much to me, Bro,

1987
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: he was one of the people. But he told me

1988
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 2: he's like Bro, similar to my father. He said, I

1989
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 2: had to make you earn it because you have to

1990
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 2: be a man.

1991
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 6: Bro.

1992
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 2: That was the reason why we didn't tell you. But

1993
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 2: if Jackie Fay and Mary Fresh would have told me

1994
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 2: back then, I would have told you. For y'allis my

1995
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 2: ass pay me this but but but but Bro. It

1996
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 2: came in a hard way, and I'm grateful for it

1997
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 2: and grateful that I'm still here, and I'm grateful that

1998
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm healthy.

1999
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 5: Bro.

2000
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 2: This this African lady told me, and I don't know

2001
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 2: whether people really feel this. She's like, you know what

2002
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 2: we think about you, David, And I's like what She's like,

2003
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 2: you one of the people that didn't sell your soul

2004
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 2: and we respect and honor you. So at the end

2005
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 2: of the day, Bro, honor is something that you still

2006
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 2: can't buy. And I'm grateful that I stand for something

2007
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 2: and I hope that's what I bring to hip hop

2008
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 2: and some honor and some love and some respect. But

2009
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 2: a bit you're gonna pay me. Do you believe in Illuminati?

2010
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 2: Do I believe in Illuminati? It don't matter. I don't

2011
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 2: benefit from it. Like, bro, what I tell you is

2012
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 2: that I believe that white people have always had secret

2013
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,759
Speaker 2: society as always, but America is part of a secret society.

2014
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 2: You know, all that shit is.

2015
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 5: What it is.

2016
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 2: What I do believe is that we need to create

2017
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 2: our Illuminati and move in away. Huh, Illubinati just we

2018
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 2: call it our own.

2019
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 1: But if you look at my apartment, because let me

2020
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: look right now, like I'm not I don't want to

2021
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 1: be mysterious, but look, you've got Eli Munk hanging out

2022
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: with Trump, Trump hanging out with Jeff Bezos, Jeff begels

2023
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: that if that's not what the fuck we've been told

2024
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: what Illuminati is?

2025
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 6: Is that?

2026
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 2: And my bugging off, it.

2027
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Wouldn't because they in the open, so it wouldn't be.

2028
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they always fucked with each right, damn Illuminati.

2029
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 2: We're not seeing whatever the fuck that is but let

2030
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 2: me but let me tell you what's amazing is the

2031
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 2: difference between them ain't the white. The difference between them

2032
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:37,680
Speaker 2: is that those are all low tier motherfuckers like Bro,

2033
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 2: like now that I'm moving in business, and then the

2034
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 2: motherfuckers who are really powerful, you never know who they are.

2035
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:45,639
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'll tell you my ex

2036
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 2: girlfriend was one of the youngest most successful women in Atlanta.

2037
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 2: In Atlanta, she owned the construction company. She told me

2038
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 2: something taught me something so dope, it's gonna fuck everybody.

2039
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 2: Head up, watch this. How y'all have a wonder whose

2040
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 2: name is on the top of all these buildings. When

2041
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 2: we look up at these buildings, you don't know the motherfuckers,

2042
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 2: but they own the whole fucking building. They ain't out

2043
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 2: popping on the internet. They ain't like Look, Bro, I

2044
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 2: was out. I went to this restaurant on the secret Island, Doug,

2045
01:54:23,880 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 2: and the restaurant was the only fucking you had. The

2046
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 2: only way you can get to the island is on

2047
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 2: these boats, right, And as I'm going to this island,

2048
01:54:31,200 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm seeing all these big ass fucking houses, Like, who

2049
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 2: are the motherfuckers that own those islands? It was thousands

2050
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: of opulent fucking houses. But the real motherfuckers that's running

2051
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 2: this country, that's running us, Bro, that's running our food.

2052
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:50,440
Speaker 2: Dog Like, you'll never know who the motherfuckers are. So

2053
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 2: the fact that we even talk about it, that shit

2054
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,960
Speaker 2: don't mean nothing. What we need to do is grow

2055
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 2: our own food by own and consume my own and

2056
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 2: be self sufficient it bro, and empower our homies. And

2057
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 2: the difference is it's not empower to homies that's just

2058
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 2: around power. Empower the homies that really got some real

2059
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 2: fucking talent, not just the motherfuckers that hang around and

2060
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 2: bro to a certain degree. I watch how y'all move

2061
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 2: when I'm proud of y'all of that, bro me and

2062
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: you just didn't run by ourselves. It was eight motherfuckers

2063
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 2: that was out there, that was around you, and that

2064
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:27,839
Speaker 2: was powerful. That was king shit, Bro. Your whole movement.

2065
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers may not see it, Bro, but you always moved

2066
01:55:31,200 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 2: with twenty thirty motherfuckers that will die for you, Hommy.

2067
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 2: That's the same thing that the white boys did. They

2068
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 2: just put theirselves on another level and we got to

2069
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 2: dream for biggert shit. Now we gotta stop just dreaming

2070
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: the smaller dream. We gotta dream a dream that's so

2071
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 2: fucking big. I'm serious when I tell y'all what I'm

2072
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 2: about to do, I have to stay quiet because if

2073
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 2: I continue on this path, the motherfucker's gonna hurk me

2074
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 2: in a second. Dog, I gotta just shut the fuck up.

2075
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 2: That's one thing that I learned. Got the fuck up

2076
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,440
Speaker 2: until it's too late. But bro, I'm telling you, when

2077
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 2: I do what I'm about to do, do we all

2078
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 2: can retire. They kiss all our ass. Dog, I'm serious. Bro,

2079
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna buy some land and we moving. I'm up.

2080
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,920
Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm bad.

2081
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 1: That's all good as a person. And just so you know,

2082
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: like we look up to when when you speak right,

2083
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 1: we look up to Like for me, I want people

2084
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: like you and Killer Mike to like run for the

2085
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 1: mayors of these cities, even if it's California whatever. I

2086
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 1: really think that we can actually do that. Like when

2087
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 1: they say, like the local vote, is that something that

2088
01:56:42,240 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: you ever would think about?

2089
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 2: No, man, no money in politics. No, we get this money.

2090
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 2: We get this money and we buy politicians. Politicians are prostitutes,

2091
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 2: so you b yeah, you buy the fucking politicians and

2092
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 2: you make them bitches do what they supposed to do.

2093
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:58,640
Speaker 2: If you don't do what you paid to do, you

2094
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 2: get your bitch ass beat, period. Bro. If we really

2095
01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: want to be powerful, if you really love me, you

2096
01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to see me be a politician. That's a

2097
01:57:07,680 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 2: wasting my time. Ain't no money in I don't know.

2098
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying not you, per se. But the real

2099
01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 2: power is in me getting real money. And then were

2100
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 2: playing chess on the board with other motherfuckers who want

2101
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 2: to do that kind of ship. Me being the mayor,

2102
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 2: I can't make no money. I can't be shooting no movies.

2103
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 2: I can't be doing I can't be in text financing.

2104
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I like New York City's mayor. He's outside, he's single,

2105
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 1: he going to all Spanish parties. He's he go to

2106
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: all Spanish parties. He's out here living life. He's black.

2107
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna lie. I

2108
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: like you, Eric Adams.

2109
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 3: I like that.

2110
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 2: I like that ship is flying to me like man.

2111
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 1: And let me just says he's outside, he didn't drink yet.

2112
01:57:57,080 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: Hes Eric Adams is the man. Bro. I'm being honest.

2113
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm saying to myself, why can't we

2114
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: have that everywhere?

2115
01:58:08,280 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 2: Right?

2116
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 1: Like, I know I'm relating to this to the most

2117
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 1: simplest thing, But let me just break down something for you.

2118
01:58:15,280 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: One time, I'm traveling, you know, the fitty States, and

2119
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,840
Speaker 1: what I realized, everywhere I went there was a rough

2120
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 1: rider club. There was a motorcycle club everywhere I went, right.

2121
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 2: Shout out to Y and D.

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01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 1: Motherfucker that's right. And I'm like, okay, right now, I'm

2123
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: I said, I'm labeling to the simplest thing right there,

2124
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 1: right now, I can have a run club everywhere I go,

2125
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: right right, absolutely, But why I can't have when I

2126
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 1: go to Atlanta killing Mike is actually the motherfucking mayor.

2127
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 2: And t I is the governor. I know this sounds crazy,

2128
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 2: but it's not sounds crazy.

2129
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: Can actually get the watch this.

2130
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 2: You remember me and you had that conversation like.

2131
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:06,520
Speaker 1: Mississippi.

2132
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 2: We actually wrote it down. It was like, okay, we

2133
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 2: could talk to forty we hadn't talked about because it

2134
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 2: meant a lot to me and bro it was so

2135
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 2: fucking smart. But the only way that I would do

2136
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:26,560
Speaker 2: it and it would be worth my time is if

2137
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 2: it was a movement and not just me, because I'm

2138
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 2: gonna tell you all something, and I'm gonna say I

2139
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna say this, bro, but this ship pissed me

2140
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 2: off to niggas that I thought was really my friend. Bro.

2141
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: They would have come and get me when it was time,

2142
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 2: revolutionary time, and they would put me out there and

2143
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 2: let banda talk, let banda talk, And then I get

2144
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 2: fucking shot up in my career, fucking fall and the

2145
01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 2: motherfuckers go get their motherfucking deals with Disney and Ship.

2146
01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 2: They keep it moving, and they ain't really get a

2147
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 2: fuck about me. Bro. So if it's not a movement,

2148
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 2: then what they really want. And this is part of

2149
01:59:57,400 --> 02:00:00,440
Speaker 2: our problem is that we have a Jesus complex. I

2150
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 2: don't think that the story of Jesus was about a

2151
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 2: man coming and bearing a cross for you. I think

2152
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 2: that Jesus, the story of Jesus, was about a man

2153
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 2: coming down and being a man and showing you how

2154
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:17,000
Speaker 2: to carry your own cross. Ain't nobody gonna fucking save us,

2155
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,320
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody coming out the sky. Ain't nobody but you

2156
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 2: gonna save your fucking community. If it ain't us, Bro,

2157
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 2: that shit done. What we need to do is find

2158
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 2: an articulate, bright kid. We all see him in our hoods,

2159
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:34,240
Speaker 2: right and wrong. Put some money behind that motherfucker, raise

2160
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 2: him and be like, look, we're gonna take care of you,

2161
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 2: but what we need you to do is this and this,

2162
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:41,440
Speaker 2: this and this for our community, and then you can

2163
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:44,160
Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck you want to do. Bro, We

2164
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 2: got to be more strategic.

2165
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Speaker 1: But like, for instance, and you've been doing this all day,

2166
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 1: you said, I don't give you a example, So I'm

2167
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 1: gonna give you an example.

2168
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle. We start with Dave Chappelle.

2169
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:57,600
Speaker 1: We don't want Dave Chappelle to change, we don't want

2170
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 1: day shape we want but you run this Hohio, run

2171
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: for the whole fucking governor and you don't think Dave Chappelle.

2172
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 2: Would win, and why should he even do that?

2173
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to say is hip hop takes

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02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 1: over everything. Let's imagine if we really you said, like

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02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 1: a movement, this is what you said, This is the

2176
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 1: reason why I'm gonna stick to this. If we got

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Speaker 1: together and really said, you're listen, We're gonna have Ray

2178
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:24,680
Speaker 1: Kualm one for Dallas. He's gonna be Dallas and whoever

2179
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:28,839
Speaker 1: is from Dallas, slim thug j Prince.

2180
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what's my man name? Uh?

2181
02:01:34,920 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 1: What's my man name? Traded truth, Trade the truth. And

2182
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 1: we got y'all running, and we're really getting behind this now.

2183
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 1: We got Houston, we got Dallas, we got Atlanta, we

2184
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 1: got New York, we got that ship.

2185
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 2: Is like, that's but watch this. Let me even put

2186
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 2: a twist to it. Yes, we are the only people

2187
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 2: that put our generals on the front line. Like, no,

2188
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 2: you don't put your generals on the front line. Why

2189
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna put Dave Chappelle. Da Chapelle is money that

2190
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 2: Japelle is our bank. What we do is we take Okay,

2191
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:10,000
Speaker 2: that's what you choose, that you choose, But what I'm

2192
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 2: saying is, instead of you taking Dave Chapelle, you let

2193
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:15,600
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle be the brain trust that he is in

2194
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 2: the financier that he is, and we find a young motherfucker.

2195
02:02:20,440 --> 02:02:23,040
Speaker 2: So that's like instead of if let's let's say, like

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02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm not just saying this, but like let's just say,

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02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 2: if krit was interested in it, okay, then why not

2198
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 2: me take my money, my influence, me move on this level,

2199
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 2: put my money into somebody like that or one of

2200
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 2: the problems that we have in the black and brown

2201
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:43,120
Speaker 2: community is that we want to be entertained. If it's

2202
02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 2: about politics, then find somebody that's good at politics.

2203
02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 1: Right now, this president is entertaining.

2204
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 2: America. So you're you're you're proving my point the reality

2205
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 2: to watch this, to watch this, if we have been

2206
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 2: socially engineered in America to be in the positions that

2207
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 2: were in, why would we go hire a rapper? Go

2208
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:09,880
Speaker 2: find a fucking engineer. That's why we never have sustainable

2209
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 2: movements because we want pretty entertaining. Malcolm X said it,

2210
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 2: and I don't want rappers on fucking CNN speaking for me,

2211
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 2: Go rap, nigga. I want someone who can articulate real, solid,

2212
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 2: fucking plans. I wanted the smartest motherfuckers in hip hop period.

2213
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm the fuck wouldn't nobody say, But I don't even

2214
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 2: think I'm worthy to speak on behalf of the plight

2215
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 2: of black people. Bro. I do it because I know

2216
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 2: a lot of these other motherfuckers don't give a fuck.

2217
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 2: But the reason why we don't get forward is because

2218
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 2: we don't have real sustainable plans. One of the things

2219
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 2: that pissed me off so bad that we did. And

2220
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:50,320
Speaker 2: one of the mistakes that we made is when ice

2221
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 2: Cube stepped up and literally create a plan for politics

2222
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:02,560
Speaker 2: and he said, I'm going to talk to Trump. Motherfuckers

2223
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 2: got mad. We always say we're playing chess, not checkers,

2224
02:04:07,360 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna let the man play chess. You

2225
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:14,320
Speaker 2: talk to everybody. What people don't know is some of

2226
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 2: our greatest leaders in the world set down at the

2227
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 2: table and talk to the Klan. If you don't want

2228
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 2: me in America and you're gonna put up two million

2229
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 2: dollars for me to get the fuck out, and I

2230
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 2: don't want to be here, and why can't we sit

2231
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 2: at the table and talk. We talked to the white

2232
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:35,760
Speaker 2: motherfuckers as rappers who we knew were accountants, who we

2233
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 2: knew that was lawyers, and didn't give a fuck about

2234
02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:40,600
Speaker 2: the hood. And we sat down and found a medium.

2235
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 2: And that's how we created record companies. Why we can't

2236
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:47,400
Speaker 2: sit down, sit down from a political standpoint and really

2237
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:51,920
Speaker 2: have sustainable plans. Motherfuckers want to be emotional. They don't

2238
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 2: really want a movement. I honestly think that most people

2239
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 2: are scared of freedom, real freedom, like they are scared

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02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 2: of death. Actually, all death may be better. Oh wait, wait, wait, wait,

2241
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 2: wait wait, hold on, you don't know what the fuck

2242
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,560
Speaker 2: death is because you ain't died. Shit, you just don't

2243
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 2: want to take the chance to see and what's on

2244
02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 2: the other side. But death might be better you don't know.

2245
02:05:20,760 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 2: That is the reason why I created a banner vision.

2246
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:26,800
Speaker 2: That's the reason why I'm gonna do science based movies

2247
02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 2: in Sciphi, because they constantly are preparing us for a

2248
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:36,160
Speaker 2: future without us. So what I'm telling you is is

2249
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 2: that if we really want to talk politics, most black

2250
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 2: people don't even know what they really want. When you

2251
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 2: talk to any other subsection in this country, they can

2252
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 2: tell you exactly what they're fighting for. If you ask

2253
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:52,520
Speaker 2: ten of our people, what do you really want out

2254
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:56,560
Speaker 2: of politics? They don't know. And until we start paying,

2255
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:02,160
Speaker 2: politics is a pay game. Until we start paying and

2256
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 2: then knowing what the fuck we want? Without vision, what

2257
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 2: do our people do? They perish my opinion? Wire? Hold on,

2258
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 2: I gotta take my periods. Ain't got a clerks. I

2259
02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:18,480
Speaker 2: know who I am? Lord? Yes?

2260
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 1: Moving forward? Uh huh? Do you think that hip hop

2261
02:06:27,560 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 1: still needs a union?

2262
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 2: No? I let that sit there. For a minute, just

2263
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 2: for ratings, because we already gave you pop away. I

2264
02:06:41,120 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 2: told y'all a long time ago, to streaming was the

2265
02:06:43,200 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 2: dumbest shit that we ever did in history. Dog, we

2266
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:50,440
Speaker 2: finally started getting pennies, and then you're gonna let these

2267
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:54,080
Speaker 2: motherfuckers give us fractions. Watch this, it's gonna fuck your

2268
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 2: head up. You remember when the white folks went to

2269
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 2: war about moving and them streaming movies?

2270
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:06,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, boys, watch this.

2271
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 2: Didn't they just do the same fucking thing to music

2272
02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 2: and none of us said shit, Fucking Prince t I,

2273
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:19,920
Speaker 2: David Baron, I told you how stupid that was, and

2274
02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 2: y'all call me crazy. We gave hip hop away, so

2275
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:27,600
Speaker 2: what you're bitching for now? And then they do it

2276
02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 2: to movies. The only reason why they didn't let it

2277
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 2: happen to movies is because they're still making money off

2278
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 2: of movies. They hadn't sut that totally dry yet. We

2279
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 2: had just found out how to how to create our

2280
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 2: first mom and pop stores, how to burn out on

2281
02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 2: CDs even though we was bootlegging. We had just learned.

2282
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:48,879
Speaker 2: Brother I had just started getting nine dollars an album,

2283
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 2: Dog unders Bro I didn't need but one more fucking album,

2284
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:57,280
Speaker 2: and that would have been a fucking multi millionaire off music.

2285
02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 2: Dog and I produced myself and we locked their motherfuckers.

2286
02:08:02,680 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 1: Bro.

2287
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 2: We gave it to take motherfuckers who don't even care

2288
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,760
Speaker 2: about music, who ain't even cool. Dog, shout out to

2289
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take motherfuckers who'll give me a lot of money.

2290
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:15,480
Speaker 2: Y'all smart, but you ain't cool. Bro. We gave fucking

2291
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 2: hip hop away, so don't bitch about it. Not. I

2292
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:18,720
Speaker 2: ain't no need for a union now.

2293
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:21,240
Speaker 1: We gave it away under the guys of independence. Everybody

2294
02:08:21,240 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 1: thinks they're independent right now?

2295
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:23,920
Speaker 6: Cool?

2296
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,680
Speaker 2: Right, No, Niggas want to be cool, that's our problem.

2297
02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 2: I want to be paid, Dog, I want to be free.

2298
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 1: Dog.

2299
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 2: I don't care if you care to think I'm a geek.

2300
02:08:33,880 --> 02:08:36,320
Speaker 2: Niggas said I was crazy, Dog. I told them that

2301
02:08:36,440 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 2: was the wrong thing to do. The Godbox failed because

2302
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't stream my fucking album. Dog. It's some stories

2303
02:08:43,600 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 2: I can't tell y'all about when people from distribution companies

2304
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:49,120
Speaker 2: call me and say, Banner, I need you to help

2305
02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:51,400
Speaker 2: me fight on the streaming shit, and then they got

2306
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 2: cut into the equation, and then they ain't call me

2307
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:56,840
Speaker 2: no more. You know who you are. I'm not gonna

2308
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 2: put you on front Street. You're steal the hommy. But

2309
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 2: I remember that shit. They cut the right people in,

2310
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 2: they cut the right artists in, and they sold y'all out.

2311
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:09,120
Speaker 2: Y'all motherfuckers want to be cool and make TikTok pictures

2312
02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 2: and shit, and you broke. Motherfucker the reason why motherfucker

2313
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 2: always asked me put out an hour, put out out

2314
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:17,160
Speaker 2: for what I'm grown. Nigga ain't making no fuck. I

2315
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:20,280
Speaker 2: ain't because I'm gonna make quality music. I ain't spending

2316
02:09:20,320 --> 02:09:23,560
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand, fucking five hundred thousand like I did

2317
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 2: on the last Godbox album. And y'all niggas give me

2318
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 2: y'all money, motherfucking money to these fucking tech companies. That's stupid.

2319
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 2: And until we as men, we gangster about dumb shit, Well,

2320
02:09:34,360 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 2: you ain't gangst about your fucking money, about your life,

2321
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:40,600
Speaker 2: about your culture. I don't play about hip hop. That's

2322
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:43,160
Speaker 2: why I don't do it no more, because I care

2323
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 2: about this shit too much. Niggas don't give a fuck

2324
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 2: about shit. Bro gave my whole life to this shit,

2325
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,640
Speaker 2: and this shit was a lie. Dog y'all gave this

2326
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 2: ship up to them white folks in them tech companies.

2327
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 2: Now you butt ass hurt, and you wonder why artists

2328
02:09:57,040 --> 02:09:59,600
Speaker 2: who don't give a fuck make so much motherfucking money.

2329
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 2: Because you didn't stand when it was time to stand.

2330
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 2: We left streaming. We wanted to be cool and stream

2331
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:08,400
Speaker 2: and look cool and all that kind of shit. And

2332
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:11,360
Speaker 2: the niggas I asked the motherfucker if you were selling

2333
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:15,160
Speaker 2: dope on the corner, you was getting ten dollars bad

2334
02:10:16,080 --> 02:10:19,000
Speaker 2: And the motherfucker said, hey, come and use my dope

2335
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 2: and let me give you point two cent piny Would

2336
02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 2: you do that shit?

2337
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:24,240
Speaker 1: Fuck?

2338
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:27,040
Speaker 2: Now, you'd be like, nigga ill kill you. So why

2339
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:32,040
Speaker 2: you didn't do that for your music? Just because they

2340
02:10:32,120 --> 02:10:35,920
Speaker 2: give one or two dark skin black people that y'all

2341
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:39,080
Speaker 2: happened to like a few dollars, y'all sell y'all soul

2342
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 2: for that shit. That's just some whole shit. And I

2343
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:46,760
Speaker 2: also think the same thing socially, just because when other

2344
02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 2: coaches of people decide that they want to hang black

2345
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 2: people that we love and respect, we let that shit happen.

2346
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 2: If you look at a lot of lynching pictures, because

2347
02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 2: I study history, if you look at when black people

2348
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 2: used to get lynched back in the day, you used

2349
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 2: to see black people standing around doing nothing. All y'all

2350
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 2: talk about how much you love Jesus. Y'all let you.

2351
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:11,000
Speaker 2: You let them put him on the cross, and he

2352
02:11:11,160 --> 02:11:13,200
Speaker 2: told you he was the son of God, and you

2353
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 2: said you believe him, and you let them crucify him,

2354
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 2: and you stood by. You're a bitch. They took our

2355
02:11:21,320 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 2: music for us and we stood back and all y'all

2356
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:26,600
Speaker 2: maka say, y'all a gangsters, you hos. And I believe

2357
02:11:26,640 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 2: that with all my life. And that ain't the alcohol. Man.

2358
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 2: I love this shit dog, but I be out here

2359
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:36,840
Speaker 2: by myself, and y'all let me be by myself. And

2360
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:38,760
Speaker 2: then you wonder why I don't give a fuck now,

2361
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:42,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not emotional about this ship. I'm

2362
02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 2: emotional about the motherfuckers that have a certain level of

2363
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 2: culture and honor. Dude, every time I call you, you

2364
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:52,040
Speaker 2: pick up the phone. Every time I call you, you

2365
02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 2: called me back, and you don't pick up the phone,

2366
02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:00,080
Speaker 2: y'ad butt, You pick up the phone, bro, And and

2367
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:01,400
Speaker 2: it means the world in me.

2368
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:01,560
Speaker 1: Bro.

2369
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:06,040
Speaker 2: I love music, I love our culture, but it never

2370
02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:09,000
Speaker 2: really loved me. And so now I'm about to get

2371
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 2: this bread. Well I got it, but you know, get

2372
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:24,480
Speaker 2: more of it? Yeah, a lot more. That was so hard.

2373
02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:28,800
Speaker 1: Let's let me let him end it. Is there anything

2374
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 1: else you want to say to your your people, your folks.

2375
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:34,680
Speaker 2: I want to give a shout out to black women.

2376
02:12:37,040 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 2: It's reemergence that I've had in my my career has

2377
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:46,080
Speaker 2: been because of black women, y'all. I've had play, I've

2378
02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:48,400
Speaker 2: lost weight and done all that kind of stuff. But

2379
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:51,240
Speaker 2: the love and admiration that's been given to me as

2380
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:55,920
Speaker 2: of lately, y'all has been amazing. And I want people

2381
02:12:55,960 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 2: to know how serious I am about where I am,

2382
02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:03,160
Speaker 2: family business, New Orleans. Make sure that y'all watch that.

2383
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:07,120
Speaker 2: That means a lot to me. I heard some statistics

2384
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,959
Speaker 2: that you know that I was one of the fan favorites,

2385
02:13:10,080 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 2: and they didn't write it to be that way. You

2386
02:13:12,680 --> 02:13:14,840
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and it is that what network

2387
02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:17,600
Speaker 2: this is on some BT and some Amazon has been

2388
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:19,960
Speaker 2: in the top ten of Amazon since it's been on there.

2389
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:25,560
Speaker 2: Sought that up, you know, fight night, bro Like. I

2390
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:29,040
Speaker 2: just want to say this to y'all man like, and

2391
02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:31,440
Speaker 2: it's because of my relationship with you two that I

2392
02:13:31,520 --> 02:13:32,880
Speaker 2: can be this honest.

2393
02:13:34,040 --> 02:13:34,200
Speaker 6: Dog.

2394
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 4: Bro.

2395
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 2: Every night that I went to work, I was across

2396
02:13:37,480 --> 02:13:43,800
Speaker 2: from Taraji p Henson, fucking Terrence Howard, fucking Samuel or Jackson,

2397
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:50,280
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart. Dog and we're from the hood. Bro. But

2398
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:51,800
Speaker 2: hold on, this is the part I want to say,

2399
02:13:51,960 --> 02:13:54,920
Speaker 2: Nobody ever prepared me for that shit. But this shit

2400
02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 2: ain't easy, and I can't say this shit ain't scary, dog,

2401
02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:00,960
Speaker 2: And I have to do this shit by myself. I

2402
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:03,040
Speaker 2: just got to the point where I'm cool enough to

2403
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:06,440
Speaker 2: call Sammy or Jackson when I don't understand something. But

2404
02:14:06,520 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 2: I went my whole career, Bro, not understanding this shit.

2405
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:12,080
Speaker 2: This shit lonely. Bro. That's why when you asked me

2406
02:14:12,160 --> 02:14:14,040
Speaker 2: the question, it was so hard for me to answer.

2407
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:17,400
Speaker 2: You know, is it easier being a solo artist or

2408
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:20,320
Speaker 2: being in the group. But most of the shit I've done,

2409
02:14:20,360 --> 02:14:23,640
Speaker 2: I had to do a loan. Bro. Just had an

2410
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:28,200
Speaker 2: anxiety attack on set for the first time in my life,

2411
02:14:29,160 --> 02:14:30,680
Speaker 2: and I ain't have nobody to fucking call.

2412
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

2413
02:14:31,960 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 2: But this is a million This is the first time

2414
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:37,480
Speaker 2: I had ever been on network TV, and Bro, somebody

2415
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:39,880
Speaker 2: that I thought was my friend, somebody that I thought

2416
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:41,880
Speaker 2: that was gonna have my back threw me up under

2417
02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:44,920
Speaker 2: the fucking bus human And like I'm used to coming

2418
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:46,920
Speaker 2: from the hood, I'm used to beating the motherfucker when

2419
02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 2: they do that kind of shit. But we know, like

2420
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:51,160
Speaker 2: you taught me, Nor, I never finished the story. Nori

2421
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:53,080
Speaker 2: was the one that teach me, better go in there

2422
02:14:53,080 --> 02:15:05,800
Speaker 2: and turn over table, but don't hit the white dude. Y'all,

2423
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:09,720
Speaker 2: y'all listen to this is important.

2424
02:15:09,400 --> 02:15:10,040
Speaker 3: Though, y'all like.

2425
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:19,040
Speaker 2: Like y'all like Bro, this ship lonely and it's scary. Bro. Like,

2426
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:22,920
Speaker 2: ain't nobody where I'm from ever done what I did?

2427
02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:25,960
Speaker 2: You know? Pempsey was one of the only people that

2428
02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:28,520
Speaker 2: I could call and talk to who really came from

2429
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:30,920
Speaker 2: a small country place that had the type of success

2430
02:15:30,960 --> 02:15:34,040
Speaker 2: that I had. Bro. Most people were from big fucking places.

2431
02:15:34,120 --> 02:15:36,920
Speaker 2: Though I can't, Like I said before, I can't hide

2432
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:40,640
Speaker 2: behind that Yankee heat. It's just me and so Bro.

2433
02:15:40,960 --> 02:15:43,160
Speaker 2: Imagine the ship that I go through, Bro, the ship

2434
02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:45,600
Speaker 2: that I do. And I got to do this ship

2435
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:48,880
Speaker 2: by myself. That's the reason why my conviction and my

2436
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:52,560
Speaker 2: love for God is so different. But I ain't hide

2437
02:15:52,640 --> 02:15:57,040
Speaker 2: none of no religion. Bro. So when y'all get behind me,

2438
02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:01,360
Speaker 2: when y'all allowed me the opportunities to it means the

2439
02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:04,600
Speaker 2: world to me. And I never ever ever take advantage

2440
02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:06,640
Speaker 2: of that, bro, at least I hope I don't. And

2441
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 2: drink Champs, I appreciate that I was here from the beginning. Men,

2442
02:16:10,040 --> 02:16:15,040
Speaker 2: from I heard you talk about this ship. You better

2443
02:16:15,040 --> 02:16:17,960
Speaker 2: than ever saw this ship time in my life. I

2444
02:16:18,040 --> 02:16:18,840
Speaker 2: never get mad at you.

2445
02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:21,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you've never let that foota come

2446
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:21,840
Speaker 1: out right.

2447
02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:25,760
Speaker 2: No, that was and that was my bad. Why you

2448
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:28,000
Speaker 2: moved the chair. I hadn't moved the chair by because

2449
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:30,400
Speaker 2: we're going to take a picture. He decaid to sit down.

2450
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:36,720
Speaker 2: I forgot that part. That was the first drink Champions, y'all,

2451
02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:41,520
Speaker 2: I got some motherfucking hammered dog. You wasn't drunk. That

2452
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:43,480
Speaker 2: wasn't the reason why you got drunk.

2453
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:45,560
Speaker 1: I just know that that was the reason why you fell.

2454
02:16:46,120 --> 02:16:48,119
Speaker 2: It was because I moved the chair because to take

2455
02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:48,840
Speaker 2: a picture.

2456
02:16:48,680 --> 02:16:49,840
Speaker 1: And you decaid to sit down.

2457
02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 2: I was hammered, though. I just tell you that part

2458
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:55,680
Speaker 2: was the drunk call. What I figured out was it

2459
02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 2: wasn't the fact that we were drinking. Bro. We switch

2460
02:16:59,800 --> 02:17:06,640
Speaker 2: up like that we were a little bit more. Can

2461
02:17:06,720 --> 02:17:09,480
Speaker 2: I say this and I hit the blood that night,

2462
02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:14,000
Speaker 2: remember oh no, no, you was going in. You were

2463
02:17:14,040 --> 02:17:16,200
Speaker 2: going to trust y'all andy.

2464
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:19,400
Speaker 1: But let me just tell you, man on the reil,

2465
02:17:22,720 --> 02:17:26,240
Speaker 1: I can say this well wholeheartedly.

2466
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:28,400
Speaker 2: I haven't seen.

2467
02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:34,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people career from the beginning to and

2468
02:17:34,400 --> 02:17:37,000
Speaker 1: there's no ending, right, so we ain't saying the ending,

2469
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:43,840
Speaker 1: but from the beginning, and for me to see the

2470
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:47,160
Speaker 1: transition from all your accolades, right.

2471
02:17:49,480 --> 02:17:50,200
Speaker 2: Because one thing, for.

2472
02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:53,840
Speaker 1: Short, things for certain accolades can make a person big

2473
02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:55,120
Speaker 1: in the head or whatever whatever.

2474
02:17:56,040 --> 02:17:57,320
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm talking about.

2475
02:17:58,640 --> 02:18:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about your relentless I'm talking about like there's

2476
02:18:03,160 --> 02:18:04,080
Speaker 1: been times I know.

2477
02:18:05,720 --> 02:18:09,199
Speaker 2: This game is tough, This isn't.

2478
02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:12,320
Speaker 1: Understanding this game is Yeah, I don't even know the word.

2479
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:13,640
Speaker 2: And I know you.

2480
02:18:13,920 --> 02:18:17,600
Speaker 1: You was Brazilian. You you pushed through all this shit.

2481
02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:21,760
Speaker 1: You smiled when you had to smile, you know what

2482
02:18:21,800 --> 02:18:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, And you did this ship. You didn't let

2483
02:18:25,640 --> 02:18:27,480
Speaker 1: the game beat you up. A lot of us let

2484
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:29,880
Speaker 1: us beat us up in public. So even if the

2485
02:18:29,959 --> 02:18:32,240
Speaker 1: game when you said, when you said, just now, I

2486
02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:35,040
Speaker 1: got chills, you was like hip hop. Let me down,

2487
02:18:35,360 --> 02:18:39,640
Speaker 1: and I was because it's so much. But I feel

2488
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:46,000
Speaker 1: like at times me, I've I've said it in public.

2489
02:18:46,879 --> 02:18:49,680
Speaker 1: I've never really seen you like give hip hop a

2490
02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:53,200
Speaker 1: left hat, a left jack back. I've never really seen

2491
02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:55,440
Speaker 1: you talk down to hip hop because you know we

2492
02:18:55,560 --> 02:18:58,959
Speaker 1: all love common and comment related hip hop to a woman, right,

2493
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:03,600
Speaker 1: So I've never seen you argue with this woman hip hop.

2494
02:19:04,959 --> 02:19:07,640
Speaker 2: You know you know why. It's because that's not what

2495
02:19:07,840 --> 02:19:11,680
Speaker 2: men do. Bro, if you do some fun ship, I'll

2496
02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:14,440
Speaker 2: pull you to the side. Me and you go out

2497
02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:16,720
Speaker 2: in the grass if we have to, But in front

2498
02:19:16,760 --> 02:19:19,160
Speaker 2: of people, Bro, we shouldn't do each other like that.

2499
02:19:19,240 --> 02:19:21,160
Speaker 2: That's one thing that I hate about our culture.

2500
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:22,280
Speaker 1: Bro.

2501
02:19:22,360 --> 02:19:25,800
Speaker 2: We we just said, like I want to say it

2502
02:19:27,240 --> 02:19:30,480
Speaker 2: like hose dog like bro, me and me and don't

2503
02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:33,560
Speaker 2: supposed to gossip like that's what I said. I don't

2504
02:19:33,560 --> 02:19:35,880
Speaker 2: give a fuck about who Shanna shop is fucking that's

2505
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:41,800
Speaker 2: whole ship, Dog, that's whole ship. Though. I want to

2506
02:19:41,800 --> 02:19:49,760
Speaker 2: say this is closing. Yeah, I am. I'm proud of

2507
02:19:49,879 --> 02:19:53,240
Speaker 2: who hip hop has allowed me to be. I'm one

2508
02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:55,640
Speaker 2: of the few people who grew up and hip hop

2509
02:19:55,760 --> 02:19:59,880
Speaker 2: allowed me to still flourish. Y'all. I'm at the press.

2510
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:04,119
Speaker 2: It's only doing superhero movies. You know the reason why.

2511
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:06,840
Speaker 2: And you don't even know this, bro like you got

2512
02:20:06,920 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 2: me back into running again. I run three miles every

2513
02:20:09,560 --> 02:20:11,879
Speaker 2: fucking day of my life because I was trying training

2514
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:15,280
Speaker 2: for Run Him, because I wanted to make sure when

2515
02:20:15,320 --> 02:20:18,080
Speaker 2: I got on there that people didn't see me struggle.

2516
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:20,960
Speaker 2: Because if other rappers you struggle, you know how we

2517
02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:24,160
Speaker 2: all into our image and how we look at motherfucker

2518
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 2: won't come on because they'd be scared. That's not why.

2519
02:20:26,879 --> 02:20:29,480
Speaker 2: And I think this is bullshit. Why the main fucking

2520
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:31,560
Speaker 2: stars don't want to get in the dunk contest because

2521
02:20:31,560 --> 02:20:34,320
Speaker 2: they're stilled of being embarrassed. Man, y'all get in there

2522
02:20:34,360 --> 02:20:38,680
Speaker 2: and dunk that bitch. You know what I'm saying. Why

2523
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:40,000
Speaker 2: I got in that bitch and I ran.

2524
02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:40,640
Speaker 3: You did.

2525
02:20:41,360 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 1: You had fun and have fun, And.

2526
02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:48,200
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie there, y'all before y'all clap. I

2527
02:20:48,280 --> 02:20:51,720
Speaker 2: can't do it today. I'm not quite ready. I don't

2528
02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:52,880
Speaker 2: know if it's gonna be here or not.

2529
02:20:53,280 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 3: But I am.

2530
02:20:55,640 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 2: Going to do a press release on my new apps,

2531
02:20:58,600 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna release it to the b I almost

2532
02:21:00,760 --> 02:21:03,200
Speaker 2: pulled my shirt off to day so y'all could get

2533
02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:06,880
Speaker 2: the props. But one of my dreams, Bronny, was hoping

2534
02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:12,080
Speaker 2: that you were going to do it today. Yo. Hold on,

2535
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:14,800
Speaker 2: this really happened in real life. Let me tell y'all, BRO.

2536
02:21:14,879 --> 02:21:18,040
Speaker 2: I actually called ll Cooja to actually Bro because I

2537
02:21:18,440 --> 02:21:19,960
Speaker 2: really wanted to talk to them on how to do

2538
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Speaker 2: this shit the right way. I was in an interview

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Speaker 2: BRO with a very established woman's magazine, and I'm talking

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02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:28,520
Speaker 2: to this lady Bro the same way that we're talking now, Bro,

2541
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:32,800
Speaker 2: and I just looked at her and she said to me,

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02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:36,200
Speaker 2: she folded over in the middle of the motherfucking interview.

2543
02:21:36,360 --> 02:21:39,600
Speaker 2: I said, this sex some with shit works. But what

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02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying though, is that hold on, listen. This is

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02:21:42,920 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 2: important to me. I want to be I want to

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02:21:45,400 --> 02:21:49,160
Speaker 2: be our children superhero, not just in movies, but in

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02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:50,560
Speaker 2: real life. That's fun.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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02:21:51,000 --> 02:21:54,000
Speaker 2: I remember our uncles, Bro, the ones that was the

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02:21:54,080 --> 02:21:56,840
Speaker 2: carpenters and shit, Bro with them big ass hands, eighty

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02:21:56,959 --> 02:21:59,480
Speaker 2: years old. You know, the motherfuckers that's on top of

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02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:06,000
Speaker 2: the motherfucker houses. I honestly want to make our culture

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02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:07,800
Speaker 2: proud of me, Bro, and I want to do it

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02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:09,080
Speaker 2: the right way. I want to be one of the

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02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:12,640
Speaker 2: few black men that get these billions of dollars and

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02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:15,440
Speaker 2: don't turn his nose up at the culture. You can ask.

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02:22:16,800 --> 02:22:19,880
Speaker 2: You can ask. My publishers were thank you, Bro, My

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02:22:19,920 --> 02:22:23,000
Speaker 2: publishers right now. I told her. Did I not say

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02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:24,800
Speaker 2: this to say it loud so they can hear you? Sidney,

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02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:26,640
Speaker 2: Didn't I tell you that I wanted to go back

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02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:30,119
Speaker 2: to my people before I blow up? Yes, I said,

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02:22:30,120 --> 02:22:32,920
Speaker 2: I want to go back to black culture. I know

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02:22:33,040 --> 02:22:35,440
Speaker 2: what I'm about to do. It's already done. The shit

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02:22:35,520 --> 02:22:38,160
Speaker 2: that I'm about to do is already done. I know

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02:22:38,240 --> 02:22:40,240
Speaker 2: where I'm about to go. I said, let's go back

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02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:43,840
Speaker 2: to black media first, because most black people want to

2567
02:22:43,959 --> 02:22:45,920
Speaker 2: leave and they want to be over there with the

2568
02:22:45,959 --> 02:22:48,680
Speaker 2: mother folks and wonder why they get strung up, wonder

2569
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:51,800
Speaker 2: why they lose their careers, and wonder why they sacrifice.

2570
02:22:51,959 --> 02:22:54,080
Speaker 2: I said, let's go back and pick our people up.

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02:22:54,600 --> 02:22:57,400
Speaker 2: And instead of me getting popular and separating myself with

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02:22:57,480 --> 02:22:59,400
Speaker 2: black people, and let me take black people with me.

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Speaker 2: Name is David Banner. I'm an honor to be on

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Speaker 2: Drink Chaps. I love y'all appreciate y'all, how long are

2575
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Speaker 2: you taking hand? I want to say, y'all, I was

2576
02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:14,120
Speaker 2: on a raw vegan diet. Yes, I promised myself that

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02:23:14,200 --> 02:23:15,800
Speaker 2: I was going to be I'm gonna get off blood

2578
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:18,320
Speaker 2: pressure pills this month. I'm tired of that shit. I've

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02:23:18,320 --> 02:23:20,520
Speaker 2: been on this shit since I'm twenty seven. I was

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02:23:20,600 --> 02:23:23,120
Speaker 2: walking around with my blood pressure over two hundred on

2581
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:25,640
Speaker 2: the top. I'm talking about people. I used to go

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02:23:25,720 --> 02:23:27,280
Speaker 2: to the doctor and the doctor used to not want

2583
02:23:27,320 --> 02:23:30,080
Speaker 2: to let me out because my blood pressure was so high.

2584
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna be off of those pills. So

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02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:35,480
Speaker 2: I went raw vegan and my my fucking blood pressure

2586
02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:38,160
Speaker 2: went down forty points on the top. And this is

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Speaker 2: the first time in my life that my blood pressure

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02:23:39,959 --> 02:23:42,200
Speaker 2: was actually low. So I got to keep it low

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Speaker 2: for another three weeks and then I could start getting

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02:23:44,600 --> 02:23:48,760
Speaker 2: off these pills. Just because of y'all, I came on

2591
02:23:48,879 --> 02:23:52,800
Speaker 2: here and drank. I wasn't eating meat, but I said

2592
02:23:52,840 --> 02:23:55,360
Speaker 2: that I ate last night because I didn't want to

2593
02:23:55,400 --> 02:23:58,520
Speaker 2: be weak when I got on run Champs. Yeah, okay,

2594
02:23:58,680 --> 02:24:02,320
Speaker 2: So I my fast cause of y'all, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: get back on the day. I think extra day.

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