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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we said goodbye to eighteen

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Speaker 1: NFL teams Today, good ball feel a little lighter.

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Speaker 2: That's what happens this time of year.

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Speaker 1: In the Chris Westling podcast studio, I'm Greg Rosenthal alongside

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Speaker 1: my friend Patrick claybond Nick shook back in Cleveland, and

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Speaker 1: we are back in the studio after watching a beatdown

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football. Yes, for the second time in

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Speaker 1: three seasons, the Lions put a stamp on the very

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Speaker 1: last regular season game of the year. Except this time

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Speaker 1: they're not just going home and saying we took you

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Speaker 1: out with us Packers. They're the number one seed in

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Speaker 1: the NFC. We have our playoff schedule set. Let's just

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Speaker 1: go over it first before we get into the games.

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Speaker 1: We've got three days of games now on Wildcard weekend.

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Speaker 1: It is not Super Wildcard Weekend anymore. Very important, don't

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Speaker 1: call it that. We've got the Texans and the Chargers

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Speaker 1: in the West of his spot. And I have been

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Speaker 1: told reliably the Houston Texans have literally never played outside

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Speaker 1: of the West of His spot. And when I searched

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Speaker 1: west of US and Texans, I found a tweet from

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Speaker 1: our old friend Chris Wesseline, who, yes, we would celebrate

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Speaker 1: every year. The first game on the NFL Wildcard calendar

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Speaker 1: was always that early Wildcard game on Saturday afternoon, and

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Speaker 1: it was always Andy Dalton in the Bengals, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: the Texans were involved. And the tweet I found was

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Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen where he said, officially, the Texans have

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Speaker 1: taken over that spot.

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Speaker 2: They've they've played the most times in that spot. And

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Speaker 2: you want to know a.

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Speaker 1: Fact, Nick Shook, They've literally never not played in that

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Speaker 1: spot seven per seven before this year.

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Speaker 2: This makes it eight. They are five and two.

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Speaker 1: By the way, in those games they are hosting the

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Speaker 1: Chargers as the five seed. Saturday night, we stay in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, we have the Ravens and the Steelers for

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Speaker 1: the third time. I know that makes Patrick a little

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Speaker 1: bit nervous. It makes me nervous too. Sunday morning on

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Speaker 1: the West coast, one o'clock on the East Coast, Bills

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Speaker 1: and Broncos, followed by Packers and Eagles. In what the

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Speaker 1: NFL really kind of feels like, Oh, that's that's the

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Speaker 1: best game of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: We give it to that four thirty spot.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday, Packers Eagles that is fun, Buccaneers commanders on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, and then Monday night we've got the

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Speaker 1: Rams hosting the Vikings and we'll get into all the

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Speaker 1: schedule of it all, but just some like big picture

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Speaker 1: thoughts Nick about what has transpired over these last forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours this season before we get into the Lions

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Speaker 1: in the Vikings game.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel at peace. I feel like I got

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Speaker 3: a new sense of clarity because the playoff picture is

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Speaker 3: now set. I don't know, I talk about it. This

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Speaker 3: team and that team gets in. We know who's getting in,

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Speaker 3: and now comes the best time of the year when

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Speaker 3: we get to break down all these games, give our

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Speaker 3: predictions and see how it all unfolds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same way for me just looking at

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Speaker 4: these matchups and again, like the way, especially in the AFC,

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Speaker 4: where everything was going to come down to the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: and the Broncos. We'll get to that, but to have

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Speaker 4: some clarity over in the NFC. Finally, it's a sense

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Speaker 4: of like the plane lands, and not that I'm not

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Speaker 4: going to be that guy that stands up in the aisle,

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Speaker 4: but you can unbuckle your seat belt, you can take

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Speaker 4: out your phone and you could start to do the

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Speaker 4: things to prepare for the trip that is the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And there is something about that, just eighteen teams that

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Speaker 1: we're not going to watch those teams again, but we

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Speaker 1: don't have to, right and a lot of them it

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Speaker 1: is a relief, and a lot of them we're going

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Speaker 1: to be talking about, in CLUDI on the show, with

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Speaker 1: some coaching changes, and you know, the off season is

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Speaker 1: just starting for those teams. I think the slate is

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Speaker 1: just about perfect because what I don't like to happen

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Speaker 1: playing each other in wild card weekend. I think maybe

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Speaker 2: But if you're gonna do that, maybe just have one

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Speaker 1: And I kind of think the Packers Eagles has settled

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Speaker 1: So I think the way to structure this show. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're okay with this because it's already laid out.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be your call regardless.

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Speaker 1: Eric behind the glass has to say here, we do

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Speaker 2: Chris is in the mix.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he has this sort of decision

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Speaker 1: gonna go NFC first, because I think that's where the

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Speaker 1: big action was on Sunday. We'll go all through the NFC,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap it in a nice neat bow. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's start at the end. Let's go to fort Field

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Speaker 1: five and a half to.

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Speaker 5: Go, Lions by fifteen first in gold from the Minnesota four.

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Speaker 5: Golf is gonna work out of the gun, gets to

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Speaker 5: his right, Jared leans in, there's the snap, gets it

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Speaker 2: Open the left side up the hash still fighting at

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Speaker 2: the one. Did he get in the way?

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Speaker 4: It did?

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Speaker 6: Touchs down Detroit Lions. Shamir with a boat from his

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Speaker 6: Can you smell it, Detroit? Yes, we think can you smell?

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Speaker 7: It smells cool it It smells at the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: Who oh what Dan Miller's voice is cracking.

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Speaker 2: You know that's what football is back.

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Speaker 1: Welomas Brown TJ lang On WXYT.

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Speaker 2: It's been a season.

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Speaker 1: It's been three years worth of Dan Miller calls and

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Speaker 1: he always delivers. And the Lions, they delivered to fifteen

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Speaker 1: to get that number one seed. They won this game

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Speaker 1: thirty one to nine. It didn't feel that decisive, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: three Jamiir Gibbs touchdowns that also happened in this game.

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Speaker 2: He ended up with four.

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Speaker 1: He had some longer ones, but I wanted that one

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Speaker 4: You could make the case that Pine Seul had more

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Speaker 4: where Aaron Glenn's defense played spectacularly well, the Vikings play

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Speaker 4: these teams were competing to the same extent on the

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Speaker 4: and it's well, you know, we'll have time to get

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Speaker 4: into this Donald discussion. But truly, even if Sam Darnold

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Speaker 2: They finish, oh for four in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Donald's numbers inside the ten yard line, we're gro tests.

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Speaker 1: At one point they were. He was one for nine

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Speaker 1: do think Nick, on some level, it does come back

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Speaker 1: Those players were not working at all tonight, whereas the

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Speaker 3: He'd earned that, He'd earned that by the way that

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Speaker 3: he'd gotten in the head of Sam Darnold, which we

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Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs going back to the Lion's identity of putting

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Speaker 3: thing was the Vikings missing their opportunities not capitalizing. You

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, should feel good that if

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Speaker 3: we clean that up, we're still gonna really good shots.

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Speaker 3: They play that again. Who knows. Maybe there's a difference

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Speaker 3: with the Lions definitely the better team tonight.

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Speaker 1: It was very similar game plans from the two defenses.

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Speaker 1: Both teams blitzed more than fifty percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard also, you know, to ignore that Donald's

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Speaker 4: Of the year. It was two of twelve in passes

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Speaker 1: You know, before this game started, fourteen games left in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was what was at stake tonight was home

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Speaker 3: peel advantage, that's great, but they're also proved tonight that

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Speaker 1: Well, I you know, I'm just wearing my biases on

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Speaker 1: I just really want to see that. I'm man this Vikings.

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Speaker 1: The day started weird. They started weird with a Jay

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all the coaches stuff on our

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Speaker 1: They need to start preparing for their wild Guard game.

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Speaker 1: They will have an extra day to do so. Now

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Speaker 8: Empty backfield, Look for Baker Mayfield out three receivers two

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Speaker 4: Out of the pocket. Daniel's outside prows.

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Speaker 8: Them all up here here open Con touchdown, Tava Bay touchdown,

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Speaker 4: Fifth game of a row, he's come up with a.

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Speaker 9: Touchdown fire the Cannons box all up, tied to twenty

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Speaker 1: O Jean Decker half on wf us What a throw.

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Speaker 1: Put that on the throw of the throws of the

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Speaker 1: run in the biggest of spots. At that point in

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Speaker 1: the Todd Bowles era in the eye in the and

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Speaker 3: Down ten points with only one hundred and sixteen yards

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Speaker 3: they got to the break. It sure looked bad. It

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Speaker 3: sure looked like they were like that egg at the

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Speaker 3: worst possible time. But who rescues them, none other than

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Speaker 3: the man were in number six, Baker Mayfield with an

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Speaker 2: No, No, he was the.

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Speaker 3: Man scrambled, he converted. He threw that pass to Jalen McMillan.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the type of fourth quarter it was for

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Speaker 3: then their defense finished it off. They got to Spencer

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Speaker 2: This was not a clean comeback.

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Speaker 1: In the third quarter, Baker threw an interception the in

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Speaker 1: The Saints were all over it. They didn't have much

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Speaker 4: Especially with his feet. Baker Mayfield, Yeah, ran for sixty

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Speaker 4: in this game wondered if the Bucks were somehow tipping plays.

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Speaker 4: million dollars and to have the best moment of the week,

437
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Speaker 4: a top five moment of the season for me. When

438
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Speaker 4: Mike Evans gets one thousand.

439
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Speaker 8: Evans, how the ploys to the right in the slot.

440
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 8: Now in motion, Mike Evans drifts over to the left,

441
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Speaker 8: slide Baker Mayfield shotgun. They know what we're gonna do.

442
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 8: The Baker mayfieldsos of all to coughtball Evans.

443
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Speaker 2: He's got it to the forty yard line.

444
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Speaker 8: What a thousand plus Mike Evans loveleven seasons in the row.

445
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Speaker 8: How about the Buccaneers at number thirteen.

446
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Speaker 11: What a tremendous job. And we were talking off the air.

447
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 11: He needed five yards, so they sent him in motion.

448
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 4: They push him up, They hit the quick out.

449
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Speaker 11: I want to make the catch, get up the field

450
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Speaker 11: and he's fired up. He's not an emotional guy, but

451
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Speaker 11: he was fired up as seon.

452
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Speaker 4: As he got down, you could see the tears welling

453
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Speaker 4: up in the locker video where he gets the game

454
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 4: ball from Todd Bowles, just the moment from the team

455
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 4: executing Baker Mayfield making the throw, Mike Evans getting the yards,

456
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 4: Todd Bowles allowing that situation to happen, just just a

457
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Speaker 4: great moment for all of Tampa Bay.

458
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Speaker 1: Kind of incredible in so many different ways, one of

459
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Speaker 1: them being technically the only way they could not go

460
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs would be if they threw a ball

461
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Speaker 1: to Mike Evans and it got tipped, or if he

462
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: tipped it up and the Saints caught it.

463
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Speaker 2: Yep, pick sixed it, got the two.

464
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Speaker 1: The game actually wasn't over, and yet I completely agree

465
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Speaker 1: with everything you said.

466
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Speaker 2: That gave me goosebumps. That was one of the moments

467
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Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 1: There's a shot taken from the sidelines and if you're

469
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Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, you can watch it and credit to

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Speaker 1: NFL Twitter here if you're watching from the low angle

471
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: and the sound that you hear from the crowd. They

472
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Speaker 1: had it on the scoreboard within seconds that he got

473
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Speaker 1: his one thousand yards, and congratulations on all the scoreboard

474
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Speaker 1: and that's given those fans and Mike Evans and everyone

475
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Speaker 1: else like a moment they literally will never forget.

476
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Speaker 2: And that's that sports.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool and I'm excited, Chuck to see your

478
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Speaker 1: boy Baker in the playoffs. They were the worthy NFC

479
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Speaker 1: South champions. I think they were the best team all season,

480
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Speaker 1: even if today was a little bumpy.

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean both South divisions are pretty gross, but

482
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Speaker 3: they'd proved to be the best of this bunch even

483
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Speaker 3: if it was ugly. In the end, it's the right

484
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Speaker 3: way to win it.

485
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Speaker 1: They You know what though, they did win ten games,

486
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Speaker 1: and they did have a top ten offense, and they

487
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: are a game plan team where if they hit everything

488
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Speaker 1: right and that's going to include, you know, needing a

489
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: better defensive performance than they usually have, they are to

490
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Speaker 1: me that team you don't want to face because I

491
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: think their best game, if they hit you at the

492
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Speaker 1: right on the right day, they could beat anyone.

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Speaker 2: I mean anyone.

494
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Speaker 1: There is no one in the NFL that I don't

495
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Speaker 1: think the Bucks could be. We know that they'll have

496
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Speaker 1: the commanders and so they are a fun team. You

497
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Speaker 1: know what's crazy. They could make the division round for

498
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Speaker 1: the fourth time in five years. I mean you think

499
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: of that and you think, well, that must be a dynasty, right,

500
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Speaker 1: I mean they kind of are just a little bit

501
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Speaker 1: an NFC South dynasty.

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Speaker 4: With some different personnel. Jason Light getting it done fourth straight.

503
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Speaker 2: The only time in that run they didn't win the division,

504
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Speaker 2: they won the Super Bowl.

505
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Speaker 1: So they'll take that trade off, and they'll take the

506
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Speaker 1: trade off of having to sweat out. Yes, a fourth

507
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: quarter where they're trailing and the Falcons were tied at

508
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: the time, but ultimately Falcons couldn't even get it done.

509
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Speaker 4: Youngest under center. Here's the snaps Sanders up the middle.

510
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 12: Charging through the end zone, touchdown, Carolato.

511
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Speaker 13: The Panthers walk it off to end the season.

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Speaker 1: That is right a Niche Shroff on wr f X.

513
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: The Bryce Young story somehow got better in week eighteen,

514
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: the most improved player of the year. He's past Sam

515
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: Darnold for me. I'm sorry, recency bias. I just like

516
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: watching this guy. He puts up a forty burger in

517
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Speaker 1: a must win game for the Falcons forty four to

518
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Speaker 1: thirty eight. Three touchdowns on the day for Bryce Young,

519
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: who gets a lot of help from Adam Thielen as

520
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: he does each and every week, just making great catches

521
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: in Jalen Coker who is a real deal NFL player.

522
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: They found something in this undrafted rookie, another great rookie

523
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Even Bryce Young's misses, I think this season

524
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 1: have been good, like they all are with the right intention,

525
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: they're all the right decision and he did it all today.

526
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Speaker 1: A couple big plays with his legs twenty four yards

527
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Speaker 1: on the ground, and he was just on point. Every

528
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Speaker 1: time the Falcons took a lead in this game, he

529
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Speaker 1: had a response.

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Speaker 4: And we had this discussion about Bryce Young and the

531
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Speaker 4: way he moves in the pocket. Win Shook was here

532
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Speaker 4: with us in studio earlier this week, and it showed

533
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Speaker 4: today the Falcons they even though when they did get

534
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: pressure to Bryce, he was stepping away. When they didn't

535
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Speaker 4: get pressure on Bryce, he was doing things like Steph

536
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 4: Curry pre celebrating before the shot goes in on a

537
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Speaker 4: touchdown to Tommy Trumble today, just everything that you would

538
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Speaker 4: want to see from the quarterback. And then on the

539
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: other side, the Falcons defense kind of reverting to there

540
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Speaker 4: can't get pressure on the quarterback from earlier.

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Speaker 1: This yek, yeah, well, why you bring it up. Let's

542
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Speaker 1: watch the Bryce Young. It's not quite a no look

543
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Speaker 1: because he looked when he threw it, but he didn't

544
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Speaker 1: look when Coker caught it.

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Speaker 4: So now a fourth down, Atlanta loses a time out,

546
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Speaker 4: fake the handoff young step and.

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Speaker 3: Throw and soon touchdown.

548
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Speaker 5: Tommy trimbles and Carol couldnverts Panthers have come to play.

549
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 14: You've got a rookie quarterback playing well in Atlanta, second

550
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 14: year quarterback continuing to grow.

551
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: And elevate his play in Carolina.

552
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Speaker 4: And he knew it before they got there.

553
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 13: So good steph Curry throwing up the three and retreating

554
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Speaker 13: without even seeing it.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the easier throws Bryce had to make.

556
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Speaker 1: They are a good job by Dave canal Zeros cresit

557
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Speaker 1: to here. Look, he wouldn't have even gone to Bryce

558
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: sung this season if Andy Dalton didn't get injured in

559
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Speaker 1: a car accident, which is a weird sliding doors, and

560
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Speaker 1: I mean he probably eventually would have gone back to him,

561
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Speaker 1: but that that week he was not planning to uh,

562
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: but they they got some open receivers City, but he

563
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 1: also had some C and I throws that were were

564
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: just incredible, and so did Michael Pennix. And as disappointing

565
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: as the Falcons defense was Ultimately, Raheem Morris made some

566
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: game management decisions with the clock again, so that's something

567
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: he's got to work on in his defense and probably

568
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: got worse this year than then last year's Falcons defense,

569
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Speaker 1: and they got older too by the numbers all around.

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Speaker 1: Michael Penix was awesome in this game. They die up

571
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Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty seven yards and thirty one first down,

572
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Speaker 1: shook it and he had a million great catches. Drake

573
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Speaker 1: London to Pennis is gonna be a combination I'm looking

574
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Speaker 1: forward to watching for a long time. London ends up

575
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Speaker 1: with ten for one to eighty seven and two and

576
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: Bajohn Robinson goes for one hundred and seventy yards on

577
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: the ground in just a fantastic performance. So there was

578
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: nothing Drake London, uh and Michael Penicks really could have

579
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Speaker 1: done here.

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Speaker 2: They were matching him shot for shot and it was

581
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Speaker 2: just that.

582
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the uh the Panthers were the ones that got

583
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: the ball and scored the touchdown in overtime.

584
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't complain about overtime rules either. This was

585
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: how this game was supposed to go. Sure team to

586
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: get a stop wins and then the Falcons did not

587
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: get his top because the Panthers were down the field.

588
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 3: We are going to see this matchup of quarterbacks for

589
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: years to come. They are division rivals. Michael Pennix has

590
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 3: shown me enough in the limited amount of time that

591
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: he's played this year for me to think he's going

592
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: to be the guy for the long term. Bryce Young.

593
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: I just think about where we were after Week two

594
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Speaker 3: when he got benched and there was a shot of

595
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: a fan trying to get an autograph of his outside

596
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: of the facility, and he looks so down. And to

597
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: see him go from there to where he's so confident

598
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: that he can turn around and a signal touchdown before

599
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: the ball even lands in his receiver's hands. What a

600
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: journey he has traveled over this season. And a little

601
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: bit of vindication for myself because.

602
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Speaker 2: Here you go.

603
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: Take it with the QB index. I moved him all

604
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Speaker 3: the way up to eleven. Got a lot of hate

605
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: online for it Panthers fans, and you know what backed

606
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: me up. He backed me up. But I love how

607
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: bright his future is.

608
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this division is looking a lot more fun if

609
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: the Saints can figure some things out. It's crazy how

610
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: good John Robinson is, whether he's the third or fourth

611
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: best running back in the league this year. You know,

612
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: you have Saquon, you have what Derek Henry did, you

613
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: have what Jamir Gibbs did, and then like he might

614
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: be the best, fourth best running back of all time.

615
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean he he's just so pretty, Like just watching

616
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: him set up these blocks getting inside outside, like he

617
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: just an awesome season out of him. So if there

618
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: ever could be like a moral victory way to lose

619
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Speaker 1: to the Panthers in Week eighteen with the playoffs on line,

620
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Speaker 1: I feel like this is close to it.

621
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Speaker 2: At least at least they.

622
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Speaker 1: Feel at least they got to feel a little better

623
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Speaker 1: about their future. Imagine if they hadn't gone to Pennanty.

624
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: It just they do feel they should have good things

625
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: to feel about. Although Raheem Morris even you mentioned the

626
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: end of the game, like they got the ball back.

627
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I know they were on the twelve yard line, but

628
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: they had fourteen seconds and they had time.

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Speaker 2: Outs, like just try to score try.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, I would have liked to see

631
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: some effort there. I know Riley Patterson missed the long

632
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: field goal earlier. There's no Young waikup, but may give

633
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 4: Riley Patterson another opportunity. But the you know we saw

634
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: you know you're not watching if you're listening to the

635
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 4: audio version, the dejected look on the Falcon sideline. After that,

636
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: Tommy Tremble touched down, but there was motion. There was

637
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: somebody clapping on the sideline. It was Kirk Cousins trying

638
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: to pick his team, and it's just kind of a

639
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: symbol for the way the season has gone in Atlanta.

640
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they finished eight and nine, so ultimately two games

641
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: back of the Bucks. The Panthers at five and twelve. Man,

642
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: if I smoke cigarettes, I feel like I would need

643
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: a cigarette right now.

644
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We're gonna go roll through

645
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Speaker 2: the rest.

646
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Speaker 1: Of the NFC and all the seating implications of how

647
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: it broke down on.

648
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: Somebody Marioda and the gun neck. Look, who has left

649
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: three wide receivers to the right. Here's the snap. He's

650
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 4: looking left, one on one, throws up, chuck down, duck down.

651
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Fucking God again.

652
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: Do you believe a miracle?

653
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Not do?

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Speaker 4: Jerry Vataur, August Barry yodis perfect, Baul ball Day, Washington.

656
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Speaker 1: Man all season, Ram Weinstein and London Fletcher just getting

657
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: it done. They're kind of like Jayden Daniels and Marcus

658
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: Mariota on Wbig. It doesn't matter who's in the game,

659
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: they're both got to deliver. Mariota comes in there and

660
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: just keeps delivering touchdowns. He's running scary Terry's in the game.

661
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: At the end, twenty three to nineteen, Washington wins.

662
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: A fun one.

663
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: This was earlier in the season, this would have been like, oh,

664
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: this game of the year type of stuff, but instead

665
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: it was like backups on backups, and yet.

666
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: It's a fun professional football game.

667
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you just go ahead and make it one

668
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty minutes of the Washington Commanders and Dallas

669
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: Cowboys this season, it's still regardless. Comes down to the

670
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: wire in the final moments, this time with backups in.

671
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 4: As dan Quinn saw Jaden Daniels on the opening series

672
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: get sacked by Michael Parsons twice, a slow offense that

673
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: couldn't really run the vault. Jayden took a few hits

674
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: and dan Quinn decided, Okay, that's enough, let's get Marcus

675
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 4: Mariota in for the remainder of this and they're able

676
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: to still win with that. The Cowboys play Trey Lance

677
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 4: in this game exclusively, you know, despite the fact that

678
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush could have hit some contract incentives by getting

679
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: some more snaps, much to his chagrin, that did not

680
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: ultimately happen. But it's the protection for Jayden and Daniels

681
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: that didn't work out. But then Marcus Maroota making plays

682
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: with his feet. He almost had a long touchdown run

683
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: that came on fourth down.

684
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: Thirty three yards.

685
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, just gets his ankles nipped, but then comes back

686
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: with that touchdown pass to Scary Terry. Where this has

687
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: been the Commanders, this is their season. The last ten

688
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: seconds of the game, what insane play is the Commander's

689
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 4: offense going to make and it comes. They're the reverse

690
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: Bengals this year and also one of those wins.

691
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: That's a good call.

692
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Five lead changes in the final twenty minutes of this game,

693
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: just back and forth between Aubrey and Ertz and Mariota

694
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know whether it be just like

695
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: a smidge concern that you know, Jane Daniels goes six

696
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: for twelve or thirty eight yards in this game, any concern, No, No,

697
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: he did play a lot.

698
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: Okay, it's whatever.

699
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: There's familiarity, you know, they're they're they're going up against

700
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 4: a team that they really just played, a team that's

701
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 4: gotten better on defense, where you know Michael Parsons being back,

702
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 4: and again, like, I don't know if you could make

703
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: a case for Michael Parson's playing thirteen games and have

704
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: a defensive Player of the Year. But it's up there

705
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 4: in terms of pressures and the number of pass rush snaps.

706
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 4: He's got three hundred and ninety two. He's got seventy

707
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: five quarterbacks.

708
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: He's the best defensive player in the league. He was

709
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: my choice before the season. He has been for three

710
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: straight years, I think, and he wasn't healthy enough, but

711
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: ultimately I think he was the best player.

712
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: I think you're absolutely right. All right, So the Cowboys lose.

713
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: And the Commanders, you know, one of the teams who

714
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: were they were just playing for seeding, just trying to

715
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: get the six instead of the seven, and they didn't

716
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: even know if they would get the six until later

717
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: in the day. It turns out they did, so they

718
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: move up one spot. Instead of going to Philadelphia, they

719
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 1: go to Tampa Bay. I think, you know, just because

720
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: they know the Eagles. I don't know which one they

721
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: would prefer, but as a fan, I'd rather just not

722
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: see that matchup for a thirtie, So I'm glad that

723
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: they played to win in Dallas. The conversation turns into

724
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and what's going to happen. Let's listen

725
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones after the game.

726
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 15: Mike is one of the best coaches that I think

727
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 15: there is. He was made the coach here because I

728
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 15: thought that, and he's done excluding nothing to diminish my

729
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 15: opinion of him as a coach. And I am really

730
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 15: impressed with the way the players identified look or or

731
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 15: with him. They're inside with it, and uh, that's important.

732
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: I think they're going to bring McCarthy back. Let's listen

733
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: to McCarthy after the game too.

734
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 16: I understand why I asked the questions. I don't like

735
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 16: to talk about myself that way, but I'll just be clear.

736
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 16: I'm a winner. I know how to win. I've won

737
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 16: a championship. I want a championship in this building, and uh,

738
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 16: and that's.

739
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: Who I am.

740
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 16: So and we'll see where. We'll see where it goes.

741
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Also coached up and Aaron Rodgers led team when he

742
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: hit Jared Cook down the sideline and DA's rook a

743
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: year in that building. I saw that game. That was

744
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: a good one. Do you think he's back shook? What

745
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: do you think?

746
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: I think?

747
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: Do you think he should be back? How about that?

748
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm curious what you thought.

749
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: Aw, that's debatable because what are you doing? Are you

750
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: spinning your wheels? Are you actually going to attack the

751
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: offseason with intent? Because they didn't last year and they

752
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: paid for it this year. I think that's what's most important.

753
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: It's not even necessarily the coaching staff, because his offense

754
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: when at full strength was pretty good. I mean, it

755
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: was good with Mike McCarthy, you know, overseeing it. It's

756
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: just that they lost guys. They lacked guys, They lacked

757
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: running backs. They had just CD Lamb at receiver for

758
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: most of the year. So you get Dak back, you

759
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 3: figure out your backfield because Rico Daddle has emerged. You

760
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 3: maybe add another weapon at receiver because I love Jalen Tolbert,

761
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: but you know I need something better alongside ceed Lamb.

762
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 3: Then then yeah, maybe it works out. You know what

763
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: you have in your defensive coordinator? Do you know what

764
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: you have in your defensive Personnalit you need to get,

765
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: but you need to be more active in the off

766
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: season to justify bringing this group back.

767
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't have a hot take here. My guess is

768
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: McCarthy will be back. I think, considering the ecosystem they're in,

769
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: which is a very strange one and is maybe a

770
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: bit of a problem, that McCarthy is probably better than

771
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: they would do. Like, like, I don't have confidence in

772
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: them finding a better fit for Dallas Cowboys head coach.

773
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm not in love with it, but I'm fine if

774
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: they bring McCarthy back.

775
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm fine. Why wouldn't that be fine?

776
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it kind of fits the whole theme of this

777
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: offseason for Dallas in season and then being all in

778
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 4: and then ultimately seeing like what all in means. It's

779
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: bringing back kind of what you got.

780
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: And you know what that matchup, by the way, as

781
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: we spin the the you know, mind forward into wild

782
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: card weekend, you know what that matchup means. Washington versus

783
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Marshaun Lattimore, we get it, Mike Evan, we

784
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: get another one.

785
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: Will fight.

786
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Let's go to Green Bay where, Yeah, the Packers had

787
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: their hands full.

788
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 9: Taylor extends his hands, snap placement, made Cairo Santos kick

789
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 9: us up and the kick.

790
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 17: They's done.

791
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 4: The Bears of Black Duff and one in Green Bay, putting.

792
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 9: To bed to nasty losing streaks, the in season streak

793
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 9: and the Packer streak.

794
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 4: One ends at.

795
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 9: Eleven, the other ends as well, and the Bears win

796
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 9: it twenty four to twenty two.

797
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was their first win since twenty eighteen.

798
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: That was also an eleven game streak.

799
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: I believe Jeff Joniac their great job kind of picking

800
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: up what I didn't set up, which is, yes, the

801
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: Bears trying to end a streak and the Packers trying

802
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: to get that sixth seed.

803
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: They did not.

804
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: They end up at eleven and six with a couple

805
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: losses to end the season. The Commanders were at twelve

806
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: and five. And yes, the Bears win their first game

807
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: since I was watching them in London against the Jaguars.

808
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: Ows forever ago.

809
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Seems so long ago. Twenty four to twenty two. Another

810
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: Claybne banger. All your assigned games were fun.

811
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: This one. Yeah, it comes down to the wire in

812
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 4: a game that unfortunately was a banger for the Packers'

813
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 4: injury wise, as Christian Watson goes down clutching his knee

814
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 4: carted off Matt Matt Lafleur says, it does not look good.

815
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: He's not overly optimistic for the playoff aspirations of Christian Watson.

816
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, Jordan Love leaves this game,

817
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 4: which is a slugfest with the Chicago Bears, who get

818
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 4: a special team's touchdown. Malik Willis has to leave the game.

819
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: But the play of the game, which shout out to

820
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 4: Johnny Knox and Devin Hester who ten years ago executed

821
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: the fake punt fielding that the fake punt return for

822
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: the touchdown that the Bears got today where Dj Moore

823
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 4: is back there, not necessarily really selling it that well

824
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: because he's not even looking in the sky where the

825
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: balls should be, but he fake fields the punt. Meanwhile,

826
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 4: the cornerback Josh Blackwell runs back there, actually fields the punt.

827
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: None of the Bears are looking at him, but he

828
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: just turns it, runs it down the sideline. That was

829
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: the Bears first touchdown and the Packers could never really

830
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: get going on offense. Malik Willis I had to deal

831
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: with a shot to his hand as well. Just injuries

832
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: brutal here. But the Bears execute down the stretch. They

833
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: get a big completion they get the time out called

834
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 4: when the timeouts should be called, and Cayro Santos kicks

835
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: that game winning field goal and the Bears in the street.

836
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm happy for Kayleb Williams and this whole all

837
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: these Bears players and coaches, Thomas Brown, the interim who

838
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: hadn't won a game yet, just to not finish the

839
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: season on that note, that's great. Although they only had

840
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty four yards of offense, so a

841
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: lot of the problems there.

842
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: We're still there, I think moving forward.

843
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: Just my takeaways are that the Packers offense isn't quite

844
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: right right now. Both Jordan Love and Matt Lafleur expressed

845
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: frustration with how the passing game operated today, so I

846
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: think that is something to be a little concerned about.

847
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Love said he just wasn't as consistent and accurate

848
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: enough as he wanted to be personally, and he also

849
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: said as he was at the podium that his elbow

850
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: was still numb, which doesn't seem great, but that he

851
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: thinks he'll be fine. They said he's going to play

852
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: next week, and Matt Lafleur went as far to say

853
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: as their offensive struggles were extremely frustrating. Romeo Dobbs also

854
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: did not play this game. It should be noted he

855
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: had an illness. They think he'll be fine for next week,

856
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: So that was just a late scratch there. But kind

857
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: of going into the playoffs took the way you don't

858
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: want to, you know, backwards, really this Packers team, and

859
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: because of this loss, they got a much tougher draw

860
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: now having to go to Philadelphia. You know, they went

861
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: into the week thinking we're gonna go to the Rams,

862
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: maybe we'll go to the Bucks, and now going to Philadelphia,

863
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: that is not ideal.

864
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if this was the Packers team that we

865
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: saw a blow out the Saints a few weeks ago,

866
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: we'd feel pretty good about that. This is now a

867
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: Packers team that basically got out classed by the Vikings

868
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: before mounting a late comeback attempt that fell short. And

869
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: then what happened today. I kind of don't put too

870
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: much stock in the fact that their passing game wasn't

871
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: working today. When you lacked, you know, a lot of

872
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: your top talent, I mean Malik Heath and Dantavin Wicks

873
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: and Jane Reeden Tucker Craft, those your four top guys,

874
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: which some of those guys are are household names, and

875
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 3: those guys don't get as many opportunities. So you hope

876
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: that they figure it out. But the Watson injury, I

877
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: think does bum me out. That's been something that's been

878
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 3: kind of nagging him in recent weeks and it is concerning.

879
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: But again, you know, we spent god, we spent time

880
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: two three weeks ago talking about how multiple they were.

881
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: They can attack in so many different ways. You hope

882
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: that they find that again before they go on the

883
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: road against a very quality opponent in the Eagles with

884
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 3: the good defense.

885
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we've seen, right, this team deal with injuries

886
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: and manage them. But when it all happens at once,

887
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 4: when there's this collapse of you know, ability here in

888
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 4: week eighteen, you kind of feel like something got taken

889
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 4: from you in a team that had only lost right

890
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 4: to these contenders in the NFC and now this really

891
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 4: woeful Bears team. And I mean they played, they played

892
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 4: hard today, but think back to that the Thanksgiving matchup

893
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: against the Miami Dolphins where that was a team in

894
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: contention that at the time had their quarterback and they

895
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: go into Green Bay and the Packers were just a

896
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: buzzsaw that team wasn't out there today because some of

897
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 4: those guys, a lot of them literally weren't out there.

898
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no JayR Alexander returning. They're still dangerous. I think

899
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: if I'm an Eagles fan or player, a little more

900
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: nervous with Green Bay coming into the building than I

901
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: would have been with the Commanders, for instance, a familiar

902
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: opponent that that they're just better than green Bay on

903
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: its best days. Still very dangerous. Yes, the seating was

904
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: decided between those two teams, green Bay and Washington early,

905
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: but as we went into the late window, we did

906
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: not know who was playing who. We knew the Rams

907
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: weren't gonna play their starters and go all out to win,

908
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: even though that could have helped their seating. They could

909
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: have controlled their fate. They could have tried to play Washington. Instead,

910
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: they played Jimmy g and a whole lot of backups,

911
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: and they almost won.

912
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: Anyways. First down and ten from the Rams.

913
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 12: Sixteen Smith from the shotgun takes the sat blitz is

914
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 12: coming from the mill ball is caught up ended fan

915
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 12: is see into the Enzonio touchdown.

916
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: Seahawks fan lie flat on his back.

917
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 12: Hangs onto the football, helped up by his teammates.

918
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: He said, what happened?

919
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 12: They said, you scored from sixteen out and the Seahawks

920
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 12: go back on top thirty to forty five.

921
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: They did it.

922
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: Gino Smith making a last bid for QB Island. That's

923
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting one way Sam played and I'm

924
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: just you know, maybe poking.

925
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: The bear hair.

926
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying Gino gets four touchdowns, mostly against

927
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: Rams backups.

928
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: But hey, he did what he had to do.

929
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: He also had the craziest incentive day I've ever heard of.

930
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: He made six million dollars an incentives toe.

931
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 4: Yep, it's huge. This is the story of the game.

932
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: How nervous you knew? Would you be?

933
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: You got six millions.

934
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: Because he needed to keep his percentage I think above

935
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: sixty nine point two, which was crazy. He went into

936
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: the day above it, but if he had like a

937
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: fifty percent day, he would have gone below that.

938
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: Needed to get over one hundred and eighty five yards.

939
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: Actually it took him till pretty late in the game

940
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: to get over that, but got that ended up at

941
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: two twenty three, and they needed to get a tenth

942
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: win two million dollars a piece.

943
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: That's tough.

944
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: That almost like I always say, like mentally, tennis is

945
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: a tough sport when you when you're in a Grand

946
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: Slam final, you might have like, you know, millions of

947
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: dollars on the line and you're the only one out there.

948
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: This is the closest thing to that in football, where

949
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: so it's literally on your arm. He got it all done,

950
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: although it was a lot harder than I would have

951
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: expected Jimmy G and the Rams offense. Nick actually moved

952
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: the ball pretty well and made the Seahawk sweat it out.

953
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, other than one really really ugly interception thrown by

954
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: Jimmy G. Better than I thought he'd be, Like, he

955
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 3: looked like the Jimmy G of old. The offense moved

956
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: the ball. They finished with four and three yards of offense.

957
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: It was a back and forth affair. Was a fun

958
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: game to watch. At one point, I was like, I

959
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: know I'm not writing this game, but if I had

960
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: to write this game, I don't even know what i'd say.

961
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: It's other than that, it's just fun and it's one

962
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: team with backups and one team with nothing to play

963
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: for other than you know, one more win. It also

964
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 3: kind of bums me out. A note's not a perfect comparison,

965
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: but go man, he looked good today, and he'd been

966
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: looking a little up and down over the last six weeks.

967
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: And I know it's against backups, but I was like, dah,

968
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: these Seahawks are going to finish with ten wins and

969
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: not make the playoffs. And if they just look like

970
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 3: this a few more times recently, they'd be in the playoffs.

971
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think this is some disastrous season for

972
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: the CX. You won ten.

973
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: You lost on the fifth tiebreaker, which is a bizarre tiebreaker.

974
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: By the way, it used to be a different tiebreaker.

975
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: It used to be point differential, which I think is

976
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: better than strength of victory, which is just random. But

977
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: maybe you don't want teams like trying to score late

978
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: and endangering their players all season.

979
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: I think that was the reasoning behind it.

980
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if we'd be playing eighteen games.

981
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: If that was well, that's a fair fair point. Ultimately,

982
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: they get it done. The Rams did not care, and

983
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: we'll never know what the Rams thought process was behind it. Ultimately,

984
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: I think that the number one factor is they just

985
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: thought rest was more important than anyone they could possibly play.

986
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: They probably saw the writing on the wall that either way,

987
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: they were going to play a team that they had

988
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: played before, that they had prepared for before, and that

989
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: it was going to be difficult. Let's listen to Sean

990
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: McVay talk about the thought process after the game to.

991
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 18: Get into this, saying, and you can't worry about ducking

992
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 18: people if you want to try to be able to advance,

993
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 18: and you're really expect to try to be able to

994
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 18: make some noise when you get in it, you're gonna

995
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 18: have to play people eventually. And so felt like it

996
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 18: was the smart move for our football team, and really

997
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 18: we had an opportunity to be able to come away

998
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 18: with the win. And so we know it's going to

999
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 18: be a great football team coming in here, and you know,

1000
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 18: we're excited about the challenge.

1001
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: That's what you love, Gary, Yeah, you know.

1002
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: And Sean's breaking out the first names as he did

1003
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: throughout that he was kind of fiery with everyone was

1004
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: asking about it, almost like, hey, we're the we were

1005
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champs.

1006
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: We're not worried about anyone coming in here. Don't blame him.

1007
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they did have an injury today. Blake Korum broke

1008
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: his forearm. McVeigh revealed after the game, so they won't

1009
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: have their backup running back for the players, but otherwise

1010
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: they got out of this game healthy. They sat four

1011
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: of their five offensive line starters, and they finished the

1012
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: season at ten and seven, just like the Seahawks. That

1013
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: brings us to Philadelphia, where there really wasn't anything tangible

1014
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: on the line except for the Giants.

1015
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: I guess draft position.

1016
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: But Tanner McKee out there trying to make a career.

1017
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 13: Under center.

1018
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: Back looking fires complete touchdown.

1019
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: Me chicks, we'll tight down, yes, Merril Reese.

1020
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: Keeping it quick like this recap's gonna be a wip.

1021
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: To EJ. Jenkins for the touchdown.

1022
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: I mean, this was a game on the Eagle side

1023
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: full of just like oh yeah him, here's that guy.

1024
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 2: They get the job done.

1025
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Tanner McKee forty one attempts, I mean they were slinging it.

1026
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell only had fourteen yards on eleven rushes and

1027
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: they couldn't get anything going on the ground, and he

1028
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: hand up with two hundred and sixty nine yards McKee

1029
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Johan Dotson, oh caase game seven for

1030
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: ninety four, and I guess we have proof Patrick the

1031
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Eagles backups are better than the Giants starters.

1032
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and which was something I.

1033
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: Twenty to thirteen I should say.

1034
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna take how he's backups versus you know,

1035
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: all credit to Joe Shane and what he's been able

1036
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: to accomplish things that haven't gone that great personnel wise.

1037
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 4: This is with Keie Ringo and Avonte Maddox playing a

1038
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: whole bunch of snaps in the secondary. No Darius Slay today,

1039
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: no Quinnon Mitchell, those guys played very sparingly today.

1040
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: Well to your point, like that might be the best

1041
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: CB four CB five in the entire NFL.

1042
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that holds Malik Neighbors under eighty yards

1043
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 4: receiving as the Giants really couldn't do a whole lot

1044
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 4: on offense. And you know, Drew Locke kind of descends

1045
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 4: back to Earth away from Gus Bradley's defense. But the

1046
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: Eagles and Tanner McKeith threw the ball a whole lot

1047
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 4: forty one attempts for Tanner McKee against the Giants defense.

1048
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: If you're gonna throw forty one, us did to do

1049
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 4: it again.

1050
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: I like it because I talk about the records.

1051
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to finish at the level they should and

1052
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: it's funny with the Packers losing that game because they

1053
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of do feel like an eleven and sixteen more

1054
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: than a twelve and five team to me personally, Maybe

1055
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm wrong.

1056
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: The Eagles feel like a fourteen and three team.

1057
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad their backups didn't didn't waste it for them.

1058
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: And the Giants, Yes, they are at three and fourteen.

1059
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: That feels about right as well. They actually move up

1060
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: a slot. We will talk about you know who lost it,

1061
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: but they are now going to be picking third in

1062
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. We don't need to spend too much

1063
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: time on the Drew lock era. We will see if

1064
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: Joe Shane and Brian Dable are back planning to do

1065
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: a show on the artist formerly known as Black Money.

1066
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: But I can't wait to get to the AFC action

1067
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: because it was it was fascinating seeing at how it

1068
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: all played out over the weekend. We're actually going to

1069
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: go in chronological order, come back from the break, and

1070
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: it'll suddenly be Saturday.

1071
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: Where the Ravens and the Steelers had some things to

1072
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: figure out.

1073
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 17: Pistol formation on third down, they give us to Henry

1074
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 17: sweeping to the left.

1075
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: Frank's attack page of the thirty twenty.

1076
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: Henry to the town he.

1077
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 6: Is gone touch down Derrick.

1078
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 17: Henry a forty three yard run and Derrick Henry continues

1079
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 17: to rewrite the NFL.

1080
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Record book, sat out to Rod Woodson with the he

1081
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: gone Jerry Sandusky on w B A L Yes. Derreck Henry,

1082
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: after having eight yards at halftime, tax on another one

1083
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty in the second half, and by the

1084
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: time he hit that forty three yarder, the Ravens knew

1085
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: they were AFC North champions thirty five to ten against

1086
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns team that started Bailey Zappi in the

1087
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: year twenty twenty five. How about that your Ravens. Patrick

1088
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: Claybon started off the weekend taking all the pressure off

1089
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: and just clinched that three seed nice and early.

1090
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice and early. The trouble is it comes at

1091
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 4: the cost of Zay Flowers. Are gonna have to await

1092
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: the results and see if he could be available if

1093
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: they win this first game or if you know, mirrors

1094
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: happened in Zay Flowers is available for this playoff matchup.

1095
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: But other than that, everything you could hope for defense

1096
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: making plays again, albeit in a Bailey Zappi start. Also

1097
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 4: saw some dtr in this game, but it pretty much

1098
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: didn't matter. Baltimore looked very good. There were some drop passes,

1099
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 4: but Lamar and Mark Andrews connected. Rashot Bateman left the

1100
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: game as well after Lamark sent him on a sneaky mission.

1101
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: He quickly apologized after he got Bateman blasted by Thornhill

1102
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 4: on the middle of the field. A scary moment there,

1103
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 4: but Baltimore able to come through and push forward and

1104
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 4: make this kind of a laugher at the end. But

1105
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 4: it was. It did feel like it was slightly not

1106
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: in question, but closer than people might have thought earlier.

1107
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: On No, there was a possession where the Browns had

1108
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: the ball down fourteen to three, like late third quarter.

1109
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: Here we go and you're just thinking, like, okay, it

1110
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they could ever get to the number

1111
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: fourteen in this game, and they didn't. But let's get

1112
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: it going here, Ravens. But that's what's special about this

1113
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: team is that if the passing game isn't quite clicking,

1114
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: then Derrick Henry can finish him off. At the end,

1115
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: they still almost doubled up the Browns in total yardage.

1116
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: This is just what week eighteen games look like shook,

1117
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: So I don't take any negatives out of it for

1118
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens. And I thought it was interesting to me

1119
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: that I thought Lamar Jackson was looking to run in

1120
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: this game very you know, a lot of times if

1121
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: his first read was gone, he just took off. He

1122
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: went nine for sixty three. I don't know if that

1123
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: was just like a warm up for the playoffs where

1124
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: he he's just gonna run when he absolutely needs to.

1125
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: And then those throws he had back to back to Andrews,

1126
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: one for the touchdown and one that got broken up,

1127
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: where he just had the accuracy and the touch and

1128
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: the anticipation. Not that that's surprising out of Lamar at

1129
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: this point, but it just shows what a next level

1130
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: passer he has been this season from the pocket.

1131
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt for one Thornhill because Lamar made two

1132
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: spectacular throws to Mark Andrews, one for the touchdown, Like

1133
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: you said, there was another one in the second half

1134
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 3: down the sideline where Thornhill is essentially playing all but

1135
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 3: perfect coverage, and yet Lamar throws him open because that's

1136
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 3: what Lamar does. And another knock on the people who

1137
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: say Lamar is not a good passer. Watch that tape

1138
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: that I'll tell you everything you need to know about

1139
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: him is.

1140
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: A Okay, that's a little bit of that.

1141
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: They're still out there. They're still out there. They promise

1142
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: you they're still out there.

1143
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: They've got them all your drafts, and they're waiting for

1144
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 4: things to go wrong here in the next Cike. Okay,

1145
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: they will absolutely show up.

1146
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's fair.

1147
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: They transitioned into he can't win in the playoffs, guys,

1148
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: which you know, Lamar has got to play his best

1149
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: down the stretch. But I think he's gonna win MVP. Personally.

1150
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't think we need to get into that today.

1151
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: We'll be responding when we find out the votes and everything,

1152
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: although we'll find out earlier than usual because the all

1153
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: pro votes come out way before the MVP votes, and

1154
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: people sort of realized like, oh, that those are the

1155
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: exact same voters. So when you find out all pro,

1156
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: you basically find out MVP. Unless Saquon somehow split the

1157
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: vote was.

1158
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: Not the AFC Pro Bowl starter, So there's perhaps.

1159
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: Those there are different voters, though different voter that's players.

1160
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 4: The three coaches.

1161
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what else stuck out to me

1162
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: in this game. We don't need to spend like a

1163
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: crazy amount of time, like the pocket movement. He he

1164
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: kept waiting until the very last second. It was like

1165
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: a little dump off to Henry at one point was

1166
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: another throw over the middle. And on a weekend where

1167
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: we saw Joe Burrow just electric from the pocket like that.

1168
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: The combination of those two things, like the accuracy, the anticipation,

1169
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: but also the pocket movement before making a last second

1170
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: throw and then at the end and you're just handing

1171
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: it off to Derrick Henry and it's just absolutely awesome

1172
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: to watch that in the fourth quarter.

1173
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 4: And since Justice Hill went down, we have seen more

1174
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: Henry on third down in passing situations and nice to

1175
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 4: get him involved in the passing game. And without Zay

1176
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 4: Flowers in the playoffs, however things go pending his return,

1177
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: Lamar will have to hold onto the ball to get

1178
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 4: separation as the play calling gets kind of limited without

1179
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 4: their guy that you get it out to quickly on

1180
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: the screen passage.

1181
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: Okay, now, let's not get out of this game. Though,

1182
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: before throwing to one of the most important plays that

1183
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: happened in the NFL this season.

1184
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 17: Bailey Zappi will get the Browns of the line quickly,

1185
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 17: he snaps it in the shotgun, patiently waits his passes kicked.

1186
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 14: Off, Michael Pierce the interception and he slides down to

1187
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 14: end of the play. Michael Pierce with an interception words

1188
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 14: I never thought I would string together in the same sentence.

1189
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 14: And you should see the celebration on the Ravens sideline.

1190
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 13: We have given birth to a child.

1191
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 4: Would not be more surprised at the moment.

1192
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: What a great call there by, Jerry said, dust getting

1193
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: that was one of those you remember where you were moments.

1194
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: At least it was for me. I brought the family around,

1195
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: like my daughter, my wife. They came and they're just

1196
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: laughing that. That just made everyone happy, including Michael Pierce.

1197
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: Let's listen to him after the game. There was a

1198
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: thick fit. Great job, Kevin Harlan there, let's listen to

1199
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: Michael Pierce.

1200
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: Did I want to try six?

1201
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 10: So there's a long history of turning big guy interceptions

1202
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 10: of fumbles and all that stuff and the memes.

1203
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: So at the risk of ruining a career play like

1204
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 4: that for myself, it's time to go home.

1205
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 9: So it's not a gas.

1206
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: We're good.

1207
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, I don't want to curse

1208
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 10: a lot on TV, but uh, oh s word, you

1209
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying, say, oh my god, he really

1210
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 10: threw his football. So no, I got fairly decent hands.

1211
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 10: I'm glad I called it. And uh, like I said,

1212
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 10: coach spreach the smart football. And like I said, I

1213
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 10: don't want to end up on a meme on Instagram,

1214
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 10: my wife and everybody laughing at me.

1215
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: Something. We did the right thing. We got down to Kevin.

1216
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: Movie, shout out to Michael Pierce like one of the.

1217
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: Radars of the internet.

1218
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: I know.

1219
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 4: But now he's getting memed. People are taking him going

1220
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 4: down on a knee and it's being memed.

1221
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: How so like in a bad way.

1222
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: Why that's no just to say like, hey, I'm not

1223
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: doing that. I'm done, Like, hey, it's just gonna be

1224
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 4: me and sir Lene. Michael Pierce.

1225
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: They should be. They should be meaning that jacket. I mean,

1226
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: his jacket game is strong. I remember going there and

1227
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: covering them in training camp one year, and Michael Pierce

1228
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: was just one of those guys that's kind of a

1229
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: glue guy that everyone in that organization absolutely loves. Has

1230
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: had a sneaky great year so yes, they get out

1231
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: of there, they get the division title. They don't get

1232
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: out of their healthy because of the save Flower injuries.

1233
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: That's disappointing. But they did get a great defensive performance.

1234
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: I know it's against the Browns, but it's still nice

1235
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: to see Nate Wiggins and a da fe Aowa and

1236
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: this defense playing so well towards the end of the scene.

1237
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: So they went early Saturday. They lock up the division title.

1238
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: That leaves the Steelers in a situation where they're just

1239
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: playing for seating and trying to get that losing taste

1240
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: out of their mouse.

1241
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: Could they do it against the Bengals?

1242
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 4: All right, fasten your seat belts. Here we go. Fourth

1243
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 4: down to twelve, fifteen seconds to go.

1244
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 5: Wilson sends two receivers out to each side of the formation.

1245
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: Russell has the ball, short drop fires a pass in complete.

1246
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 4: Yer Ruth couldn't hold on eleven seconds to go. That

1247
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 4: is coffin.

1248
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 12: Nailam baam baam.

1249
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss Dan Hord and Dave Lapham On w Cky.

1250
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: Bengals did their part. They got their fifth straight win.

1251
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: The defense stepped up. I thought it was fitting, even

1252
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: though they got a little lucky, kind of like they

1253
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: did at the end of the Broncos game where bo Nick's.

1254
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: Just missed a couple throws.

1255
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was fitting, at least on this night,

1256
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: that it was the defense that finished it off, because

1257
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: they showed up in this game.

1258
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: They held the.

1259
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: Steelers under two hundred yards and it wasn't one of

1260
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: those games where oh, there's only like six possessions. No,

1261
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: they got the ball like eleven or twelve times in

1262
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: this game shook and the Bengals defense stuffed the run

1263
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: pretty well, and they confused Russell Wilson where he wasn't

1264
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,959
Speaker 1: seeing open receivers, wasn't connecting down the field. The weather

1265
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: certainly played a factor, but on a night where Burrow

1266
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: had you know, an interception, a fumble, and under five

1267
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: yards per pass play for the Bengals, the Bengals showed

1268
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: they could win ugly, even if, as we learned later Sunday.

1269
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: I guess it's what they call a pyrreck victory.

1270
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you asked where were you when you

1271
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 3: saw the Michael Pierce interceptions. I was on a plane.

1272
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 3: I was in an airport watching this game. And the

1273
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: one takeaway I had was this is gross. This is

1274
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: gross for Week eighteen per game with stakes, But that's

1275
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: the AFC North in a meaningful game late in the season.

1276
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 3: You know, I think that this probably signifies the low

1277
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 3: point in the Steelers season with Arthur Smith and Oseas

1278
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: so much that I have Steeler fan friends texting me

1279
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 3: they got a fire Arthur Smith, and I was like,

1280
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: it was Matt Canada. You wanted fired before. It's it's

1281
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 3: all his fault that that Russ is struggling to complete passes.

1282
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 3: His offense was a mess. It's been a mess for

1283
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: a while to get pickings back and it's still a mess.

1284
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 3: And the Bengals, because of that and because of their

1285
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: defensive performance, come away with, like you said, a peric victory,

1286
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 3: but a victory that ultimately.

1287
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: You know what, a little bittersweet shook. I think I

1288
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: led you into a fumble there. I don't think that's

1289
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: really the definition. In fact, they know.

1290
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: It great cost.

1291
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: I guess you could say the Ravens, yes, one know,

1292
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: if it was if they made the playoffs, but Jamar

1293
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: Chase had a serious injury, that would be like a

1294
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: pyrrhic victory.

1295
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: So what is this.

1296
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: This is a hollow victory.

1297
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little hollow, and it's a reminder.

1298
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's stay on the Bengals first, because I'm with

1299
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: you on everything you said. Shook on the Steelers and

1300
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about them over the next week. But first,

1301
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: like Jamar Chase's season just nut.

1302
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: It's freaking crazy.

1303
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 1: End up with one hundred and twenty seven catches seventeen

1304
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: hundred yards, like, let you know, he gets the triple crown.

1305
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: It's just outrageous. Burrow's pocket movement to the end of

1306
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: the season just crazy. I think he's the closest thing

1307
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: to Brady. He reminds me so much of Brady, just

1308
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: how methodical he is the decision making. It is all great,

1309
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: but I don't want to let Zach Taylor and the

1310
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: Bengals off the hook because of the way that they

1311
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: finished seasons, because they lose early and win late. By

1312
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: the end of the year, it's like everyone just lets

1313
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and the Bengals off the hug. They've got

1314
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: fourteen and thirteen in Joe Burrow starts over the last

1315
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: two seasons and QB. You know, QB wins might not

1316
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: be a stat wins is a coaching stat and so

1317
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: that's on the organization and that's a failure. And it's

1318
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: still disappointing to me no matter how the wins, you know, happened.

1319
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: That they finished nine and eight wasn't a tiebreaker either.

1320
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: They just weren't good enough to make the playoffs.

1321
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 4: And that's funny. Immediately after the game, of the postgame interview,

1322
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 4: he's talking to Lisa Salters, Joe Burrow said, you know,

1323
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: it's gonna be weird to sit there and pull for

1324
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, but we put ourselves in this situation, like

1325
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 4: collectively and not just on lu An Arumo's defense. There

1326
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 4: were some games, especially late, where Joe Burrow and the

1327
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 4: offense were making mistakes. Now those game in like thirty

1328
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 4: eight and forty four point games, but still they were

1329
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 4: on the field with a chance to win. And whether

1330
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: there were some bad coaching decisions from Zach Taylor down

1331
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: the stretch, just fumbles, miscommunications, missfield goals, it all added up.

1332
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 4: They did everything they could during that stretch to lose

1333
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 4: those games, and they did it in so many.

1334
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: Different ways, even this game. It's the weird thing.

1335
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: It's why I think it's okay to recognize that Burrow

1336
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: deserves to be on the MVP ballot that if you

1337
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: made your All Pro team whatever, But there's no way

1338
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: to me he deserves MVP when they had the ball

1339
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: at the end of so many of these games and

1340
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: they didn't win it.

1341
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: You can separate.

1342
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you had a good event, Yeah that's

1343
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: all true, but you have to separate the quarterbacks somehow.

1344
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: And even in this game, their last two sessions were

1345
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: punts where they had a chance to put away. They

1346
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: needed one first down to salt this game away, and

1347
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: instead they go three and out. He takes a sack

1348
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: and they give the Steelers another chance. Okay, let's get

1349
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: to the Steelers part of it, because, yeah, that last

1350
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: drive reminded me of the Bears, except you have a

1351
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: thirty five year old quarterback who is cutting inside instead

1352
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: of going out of bounds to waste twenty seconds, who's

1353
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: throwing a negative three run on the very first play

1354
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: of that drive. That really clocked to me because I

1355
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: know Tony Romo, if he was doing that, game would

1356
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: have been going crazy. Romo is at his best doing

1357
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: game management stuff, and he would say, you can't make

1358
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: that throw. He threw it short to a running back

1359
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: who had outside you know, defenders on the outside with

1360
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: a minute fifty left, knowing they wasted thirty seconds there,

1361
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: they wasted more time on the next play. They spent

1362
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: ninety seconds on five plays, and then just so the

1363
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: blame could be spread around, shook like the play calling, yes,

1364
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: was a little weird. I didn't think they, you know,

1365
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: handled their time outs well before that drive. And then

1366
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: it ends where you can't blame it all on Russell

1367
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: Wilson because you know, George Pickens is out but you

1368
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: know is open deep, but I don't know where he's running,

1369
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: and he's kind of going running around and like in

1370
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: a circle. And then Friarmouth, who's had a lot of

1371
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 1: little mistakes this year it's kind of been on my radar,

1372
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: drops one at the end of the game too, So

1373
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: it's like it's not just Russell Wilson, but they didn't

1374
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: look like a well coached team. And they're one of

1375
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: the first teams in NFL history, one of three to

1376
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: enter the playoffs having lost four straight, so I think

1377
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: it's safe to say they're one of the worst playoff teams.

1378
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: It reminds me so much of that season four years

1379
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: ago where they started out well eleven and zero, and

1380
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: then they finished losing I believe, four out of five

1381
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: games there.

1382
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended the playoffs twelve and four, and we

1383
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: all basically knew they were gonna be one and done.

1384
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: And it kind of feels like that again, their offense

1385
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 3: is essentially bottomed out. The approach game plan wise in

1386
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 3: this game didn't make They weren't able to run the

1387
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 3: ball effectively, but like in down on distant situations in

1388
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: which it's a one score game and it's first and ten,

1389
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 3: they're still trying to dump the ball off instead of

1390
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: just getting a few yards on the ground. And that

1391
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: was pervasive throughout this entire game, which maybe just scratch

1392
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: my head and think, are they that lost offensively that

1393
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 3: they can't even get into a rhythm with the script?

1394
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: And if that's the case, oh my god, playoffs are

1395
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: not gonna be good for you if if that's what

1396
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: continues to.

1397
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: Go on, right, because who are they as a team.

1398
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: They want to be a team that runs the ball

1399
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: and you mentioned it. They had fourteen runs and four

1400
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: passes at one point. It just wasn't working at all.

1401
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: The Bengals actually outran them like they were more efficient

1402
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: success rate wise by a lot with Khalil Herbert and

1403
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: then they want to be a team that gets after

1404
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback and the Bengals Neither team pressured much in

1405
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: this game at all. Both both team's pressure rates were horrible.

1406
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: But Trey Hendrickson is the guy with three and a

1407
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: half sacks in this game in five QB hits and

1408
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: and might just sneak his way into a defensive Player

1409
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: of the Year. I don't know who's gonna win Defensive

1410
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. It might be Trey Henderson. You

1411
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: do that on a Saturday night and there's no great candidate,

1412
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: and he won the sack total.

1413
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: I kind of think he's got a.

1414
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough because I mean, voters are looking

1415
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 4: over at at guys that had better defenses, right, they

1416
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: were a part of better defense.

1417
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: I think it'll be certain if I have to guess,

1418
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: because someone will just give the Broncos, which is fine.

1419
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

1420
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the solid season didn't get tried a lot. Gardner

1421
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 4: Minshew tried him on one of the worst throwers of

1422
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 4: the year, and he got a highlight a ninety nine

1423
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 4: yard pick six return. But Hendrickson gets one of those

1424
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 4: sacks in the closing moments where the Steelers have to

1425
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: try to move the ball and save time as well.

1426
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 4: Russ seventeen to thirty one in this game. But Pickens

1427
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 4: didn't just kind of meander on that one route. He

1428
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 4: had three drops in the game as well. Like moment

1429
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 4: by moment collectively, something was failing for the Pittsburgh Steelers

1430
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 4: on offense, and you all kind of got micro chasms

1431
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 4: of that on the final drive where they all took turns. Yeah,

1432
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 4: messing up.

1433
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: You know, TJ. Watt ends up with two pressure in

1434
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: this game. You cannot give TJ. Watt a Defensive Player

1435
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: of the Year award this year after the last month

1436
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: he had nothing against him. I think he's playing through something.

1437
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: He played a lot of stuff. He just had a

1438
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: totally zero month, and so that's how these things work.

1439
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 2: So you just can't.

1440
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: I feel stronger about that than like any awards take

1441
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: I have, because I actually think there's still a chance

1442
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: that he gets it. Now, we'll talk about the the

1443
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: Steelers throughout the week. That was the fewest yards they

1444
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: had since twenty and seventeen. Russ was five for twelve

1445
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: for fifty one yards, with about ten minutes left in

1446
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: this game, and they almost cranked it up enough at

1447
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: the end, but they didn't. You do wonder if the

1448
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: way this season ended could possibly chase save Lou and

1449
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: Rumo's job. Guys like Cam Taylor Britt who played well

1450
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: in this game, like I think they helped themselves, you know,

1451
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: get a starting job back for next year. So things

1452
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: did matter, But ultimately the Bengals season is over, and yeah,

1453
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: we don't need to play koy with you. You know

1454
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: what happened on Sunday afternoon. We were waiting and we thought, oh,

1455
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: this could be fun. Maybe the Bengals could sneak in

1456
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: if the Chiefs backup and Carson Wentz could just surprise

1457
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: those Broncos. But Bo Nicks and Sean pay and they

1458
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: weren't having any of the great I formation.

1459
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 5: Knicks with a playfake now rolls to he's right bow,

1460
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 5: looks at the z frozen ball behind the Intend receiver,

1461
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 5: bounced up into the air, bounced again, and.

1462
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 7: Then caught by Devon le touchdown Denver.

1463
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: That ball was bounced not once.

1464
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 12: But twice, once by a Bronco, the second time, I

1465
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 12: believe by a.

1466
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chief defender, and then.

1467
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 12: Devon Veley makes the catch his third receiving touchdown.

1468
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 4: Of the year.

1469
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: That was Dave Logan of ko A. Yes, the Broncos

1470
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: are headed to the playoffs.

1471
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 2: At ten and seven.

1472
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: They won thirty eight to nothing against the Chiefs backups. Chiefs,

1473
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,440
Speaker 1: you're making all the other teams who played their backups

1474
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: and competed. You're making the teams that played against them

1475
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: look bad because this team looked like they just laid down.

1476
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I know there was like a motivation

1477
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: gap here, but man, it's just not good.

1478
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 2: They weren't good.

1479
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: Weren't good now they I'll think it was that they

1480
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 4: were trying. Like Carson Wentz goes out and starts to

1481
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 4: Andy Reid gets shut out for the first time as

1482
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 4: the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. You gotta

1483
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 4: go back to twenty twelve. Wow, last time the Chiefs

1484
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 4: got shut out. That's how bad they were on offense.

1485
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were trying, but when you're leading receivers or

1486
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: Nick Remigio and Peyton hendershot and you're playing a perfectly

1487
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: legit Broncos team, Ultimately, I believe this was the just result,

1488
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: even though I wanted to see the Bengals make the playoffs.

1489
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: I really do think the Broncos were a better team

1490
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: overall all season. And yes, they kind of do look

1491
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 1: like the twelfth to fourteenth team that gets into the

1492
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: playoffs every year, but I think they are that good.

1493
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: And Bonnicks played awesome today. We played the luckiest moment

1494
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: of his day. But Sean Payton was on one and

1495
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: maybe the Chiefs defense was a little more vanilla than

1496
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: they would have been normally. But every single play call

1497
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: he had, guys were open. When Courtland Sutton was trying

1498
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: to make a catch that was tightly contested, he made it.

1499
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: When Marvin Mims needed to get his feet down, or

1500
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: veil A had to make that crazy catch like they

1501
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: made it, and Nicks was really on point. A lot

1502
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: of them were open receivers, but a couple of really

1503
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: nice seamballs. He led the team in rushing too, certainly

1504
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: his best game in a month. And I don't care

1505
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: who was out there, there were NFL players. The final

1506
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: first down total Nick twenty nine to five, the final

1507
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: yardage total four hundred and seventy nine to ninety eight.

1508
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: It left a weird taste, you.

1509
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: Know, in terms of not enjoying the afternoon slate, but

1510
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: I think they are deserved playoff.

1511
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 2: Contributors here and they will be headed to Buffalo.

1512
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a typo. That yardage difference, that's legit.

1513
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 3: That's the Chiefs finishing under one hundred yards. So everybody

1514
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: who complained about their offense not looking spectacular. With Patrick Mahomes,

1515
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: it could be much worse than Carson Wentz. It's aad quarterback.

1516
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 3: Wentz didn't look good. At one point. Chris Oladokin was

1517
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 3: in there taking snaps. Very ugly performance from the Chiefs,

1518
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: who obviously didn't have much to play for it, but

1519
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: still you thought they put up a better fight. But

1520
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 3: back on Nicks for a second. When you're throwing a

1521
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 3: swing pass to Marvin Mims and Audric Estime is out

1522
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: there lead blocking you all the way to the end zone,

1523
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 3: you know it's your day. When Devon Valley is catching

1524
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: a double tipped touchdown pass, you yes, exactly, We'll do

1525
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: it that way. We'll stick to the brand. The Broncos

1526
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 3: dominated and came through in a way on a day

1527
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 3: that they absolutely had to in convincing fashion. Doesn't change

1528
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: my opinion of them, but it's nice to see them

1529
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: finish the job.

1530
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 4: BONNICKX hit his first eighteen passes.

1531
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of them.

1532
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 4: The vale was absolutely going to be his first incompletion.

1533
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 4: But the universe decided, Hey, this is the Chiefs will

1534
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 4: not be lucky here. We'll get rid of the Chief's

1535
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 4: luck for this meaningless Week eighteen game. Save Hollywood Brown

1536
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 4: catching a ball off his toe in the Super Bowl

1537
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: here coming up in a few weeks. But it's there

1538
01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 4: was never a point like the Broncos scored on all

1539
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 4: of their possessions in the first half. That last one

1540
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: they had a chance, they wound up kicking a field goal,

1541
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 4: and then they didn't have their first punt until the

1542
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 4: second half, and then after that the only Bonnicks didn't

1543
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 4: really have to do anything. It was handoffs late they

1544
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 4: scored a touchdown, and then it was Jared Stidham and

1545
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson. Tom Sean Payton, who loves to run it up,

1546
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 4: didn't even really get a chance to do it with

1547
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 4: his rookie quarterback.

1548
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: It was that nasty no he I mean he was

1549
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: coming out a halftime doing the interview with Tracy Wolfson

1550
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: kind of already knowing the game was over. Just saying

1551
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: like they just got to, you know, keep focus. We

1552
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 1: know their starters aren't out there, but just don't pay

1553
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: attention to that. At the risk of taking anything out

1554
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: of this game, maybe it does point out that the

1555
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: Chiefs are even more than most teams, extremely reliant on

1556
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: their very best players, just because like the backups, it's

1557
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: a steep fall from Chris Jones to what's going on there.

1558
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: It's a steep fall from Trent McDuffie and some of

1559
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 1: their cornerbacks that were out there, like Shamari Connor, like

1560
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: will be starting in the play. It wasn't you can't

1561
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: bench everyone, but the wide receiver is like, it's not

1562
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: a great wide receiver room in terms of the backup,

1563
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: it's not a great room of backups. And that's why

1564
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: it feels like they're more vulnerable. I'm not worried about

1565
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: the fact they'll have twenty four days off. I would

1566
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: be worried if any team out there, you know, signs

1567
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz next year to be their start. I can't

1568
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: believe people were saying that that that kind outside happening.

1569
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: It's like, have you watched Wentz?

1570
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 4: This is not you just wanted to hide an obscurity,

1571
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 4: But no, the Chiefs had to be fifteen and one

1572
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:27,919
Speaker 4: and Carson Wentz got exposed.

1573
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: So yes, a perfect day. If you were a Broncos fan,

1574
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: you got to get excited. This is a team with

1575
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: an over underwin total of five and a half coming

1576
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 1: into this season. It is an incredible achievement to get

1577
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: to ten wins and to get to the playoffs. And

1578
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about them throughout the course of the week. Okay,

1579
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,520
Speaker 1: let's go to the metal lands. When when the game started,

1580
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: the Dolphins had a chance to make the playoffs. They

1581
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: were second in line. Remember that the Bengals had won,

1582
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: so that prevented a scenario where everyone could lose and

1583
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: the Broncos would make it. But when the Dolphins started,

1584
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: they thought they had a chance. It is time for

1585
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive, presented by the all new hybrid Toyota camera.

1586
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 19: Rogers takes the snap, drops back, looks right, looks over

1587
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 19: the middle, steps up with the pocket.

1588
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 2: Dodgers a sock runs to the.

1589
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 7: Five throws back of the ends, cut to don Ty

1590
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 7: Adams touchdown. I have a touchdown pass for Aaron Rodgers

1591
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 7: his stern of the day.

1592
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: I don't want to say, Aaron Rodgers is a troll,

1593
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,520
Speaker 1: but he has some like trollish tendencies.

1594
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: Contrarian tendencies.

1595
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, contrarian does a disservice to contrariy. You could say

1596
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 4: his control.

1597
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 1: Okay, if you were if you somehow could come up

1598
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: with like a scenario two troll the Jets and their fans,

1599
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: it would be throwing for four touchdowns in your final

1600
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: we think game as a Jet to knock the Dolphins

1601
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs and win thirty two to twenty. Yes,

1602
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: the offense was going up and down the field. That

1603
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: was Bob was Shusan for the last time this season.

1604
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: The Jets finish at five and twelve, and the Dolphins,

1605
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: with Tyler Huntley at quarterback, have one final disappointing performance

1606
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: and they finished with a losing record. Nick for the

1607
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: first time with Mike McDaniel, Where do you want to start?

1608
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: Just I did not watch this game, So tell me

1609
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: about how the Jets offense at least got it done.

1610
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 3: I think you can hear in Bob A. Shusan's voice there.

1611
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 3: It was so satisfying. It's like he'd wanted to make

1612
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 3: that call all season long, and yet it came in

1613
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 3: a meaningless game that might be his last. They looked

1614
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: like we thought they should look when he joined the Jets,

1615
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 3: and it didn't start pretty. He threw a pick on

1616
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 3: a deflected pass very early in this game. The Dolphins

1617
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 3: end up getting just three points out of that, and

1618
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 3: then from there they hit the ground running. They roll

1619
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: was four touchdown passes. He's navigating the pocket like Aaron

1620
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: Rodgers has long been known to do. He's throwing, he's

1621
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: moving to his right in the pocket, then whipping a

1622
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 3: pass to his left to his old buddy Allen Lazard

1623
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 3: for a touchdown. That was the highlight that made me think,

1624
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 3: oh wow, that's classic Rogers right there. Where has that

1625
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 3: been this whole season? The touchdown pass to Adams was

1626
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: another one. It's a shame. It's a shame that had

1627
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: happened in Week eighteen because it was fun to watch

1628
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 3: for the first time all year. I was like, these

1629
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: Jets can't be stopped except for maybe that early season

1630
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 3: game against the Patriots, but it didn't matter. Ultimately. The

1631
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 3: other story of this game was the Jets defense being opportunistic,

1632
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 3: forcing four turnovers out of the Dolphins, who looked as

1633
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 3: if they figured out in about the third quarter that

1634
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 3: they were out of the playoffs once they saw that score,

1635
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: because everything just went downhill. A complete team win for

1636
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: Jeff Fahlbrick and the Jets just as they go into

1637
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 3: the most uncertain offseason in oh I don't know, three

1638
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 3: or four years for New York.

1639
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been it's been a while. That touchdown that

1640
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 4: we heard Bob was shuslen call to DeVante Adams was

1641
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 4: the eighty third time that Aaron Rodgers was throwing a

1642
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 4: touchdown pass to DeVante Adams. They passed Mark Clayton and

1643
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 4: Dan Marino for number three all time as units. In

1644
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 4: a great moment for that particular family, the family that

1645
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers still has. And there's no much, there's not

1646
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 4: much to celebrate or look forward to for the Jets,

1647
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 4: but that was a nice moment for two of the greats.

1648
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 4: And John O. Smith said after the game, it was

1649
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 4: human nature to look up at the scoreboard and see

1650
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 4: that the Dolphins had been eliminated. I don't know how

1651
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 4: much of an impact that had, but John who got

1652
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 4: in the end zone late, but there was really the

1653
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 4: defense that seemed kind of listless against Rogers and the.

1654
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: Jets right, And they also didn't score an offensive touchdown

1655
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,440
Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter, So even if they were affected

1656
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: by it, I mean they had a six to nothing

1657
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: lead early, it was seven to six late in the

1658
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: first half before they gave up another touchdown. They weren't

1659
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: going to be good enough with Tyler Huntley and without

1660
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: their top two tackles to beat a playoff team much

1661
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: less than New York Jets. So we looked towards the

1662
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: off season and Tyreek Hill out here getting that off

1663
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: season content machine cranked up. Appreciate you, Tyreek for that.

1664
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: Here he is after the game, he says, I have

1665
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: to do what's best for me and my family, if

1666
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: that's here or wherever the case may be. I'm about

1667
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: to open up that door for myself. And then a

1668
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: little later, as he was talking, he says, I'm out, bruh.

1669
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: It was great playing here, but at the end of

1670
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: the day, I have to do what's best for my career.

1671
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: So it looks like we have, you know, another another

1672
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: thing to talk about as we lead up to the

1673
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: free agency and the combine.

1674
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 4: And he's out. Maybe he meant out of netlife today.

1675
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: Right, Maybe he meant he's out of the like continuing

1676
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: to talk about it here, but he said he also

1677
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: says it was great playing here, but he has to

1678
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: do what's best for him at for the best of

1679
01:19:59,080 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: his great and.

1680
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 2: There was some there was some whispers about this.

1681
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: This might be a mutual thing where if they can

1682
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 1: find the right deal, it's best for both sides. At

1683
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: the end of this, they did give him a new

1684
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: contract like right before this season, which in hindsight they

1685
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: might not feel great about. But that's something to think about.

1686
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: I do think this build of the Dolphins is going

1687
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: to need some reworking because it was all about the

1688
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: timing between Tua and these receivers, and if Tyreek Hill

1689
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: is not there and he's getting older, it wasn't that

1690
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: great a year for him to begin with. He ended

1691
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: up with two catches for twenty yards today. By the way,

1692
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't get the running game going. They're

1693
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: actually one of, if not, depending on how you measure it,

1694
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: the oldest teams in the entire NFL shook. We don't

1695
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: know for sure whether Chris Greer, their GM, will be back,

1696
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: they've said Mike McDaniel, I would assume that he's going

1697
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 1: to be safe, but I think this is a team

1698
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: that's going to have a lot of changes, and that

1699
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,879
Speaker 1: makes some sense. Give me a Dolphins thought before we go, Chuck.

1700
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it's no knock on class Campbell because he's

1701
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: kind of an ageless wonder. But when he's essentially your

1702
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: best front seven player, that's a problem. And I know

1703
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 3: losing Jalen Phillips to an injury was you know, hurt, obviously,

1704
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 3: but I think it starts in the trenches on both

1705
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 3: sides of the ball. For them, you've got to build

1706
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 3: inward and then outward. I also think they're a little

1707
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 3: too star dependent right now, which is why the Tyreek

1708
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 3: thing makes a lot of sense. But I mean, even

1709
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 3: on a day where a team that couldn't run the

1710
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 3: ball consistently all year, they get one hundred and twenty

1711
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 3: one yards in Devin Chan that they don't do anything

1712
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 3: with it. Like there are issues that extend beyond the

1713
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 3: fact that Tyler Huntley was her quarterback that were pervasive

1714
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: throughout this entire season, especially on the defensive side. They

1715
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 3: had their brief highs, but they're going to need to

1716
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: make some changes in personnel in the offseason. We'll see

1717
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: who's making those changes. It's definitely a weird feeling going

1718
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 3: to the offseason. Yeah, a Dolphins team that so many

1719
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 3: people thought was going to be right there for really

1720
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 3: this year.

1721
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: In the last few years, not all eight and nine's

1722
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: are equal, and this one's worse than most because of expectations.

1723
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: I think, because that it's a little foundation shaking in

1724
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: terms of that they weren't able to run the ball,

1725
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: They didn't beat good teams essentially all season long. That

1726
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 1: the win over the forty nine Ers was like maybe

1727
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: the best win they had. It is just crazy. These

1728
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: are two teams we'll be talking about plenty coming up.

1729
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: That was the Sunday Drive presented by the all new

1730
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1731
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1732
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: talked about how the early slate of games on Sunday

1733
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: were exciting. It ended up being a little bit of

1734
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: a letdown late. But in Las Vegas it was important

1735
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: if the Chargers won or not to help determine what

1736
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: their seating would be, and they were playing to win.

1737
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 20: Here we go from the two Dobbins in the backfield

1738
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 20: pervert to throw looking left, now rolling to his right,

1739
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 20: gonna use his feet, still trying to extend the play

1740
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 20: to the end zone.

1741
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: Pot mccaukee, it's good.

1742
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 20: He launched us into the stands at a sea of

1743
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 20: powder blue. Talk about a quarterback receiver connection. McConkey was

1744
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 20: in the middle of the end zone. It started making

1745
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 20: his way to the corner as soon as he saw

1746
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 20: quarterback on the run.

1747
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: I love that two point conversion. I love me some,

1748
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: justin Herbert, I love me some Matt money Smith on

1749
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 1: Ky Sr. Chargers went thirty four to twenty in a

1750
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 1: game that was tight, that the Raiders led late in

1751
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: the second quarter, but ultimately this Chargers offensive surge continues

1752
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 1: Week eighteen.

1753
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 4: If you are a win probability believer, that touchdown before

1754
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 4: the Lad McConkie two point conversion that you just had

1755
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 4: just heard Matt money Smith call, that was it. The

1756
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 4: win probability hovering around forty eight fifty and then it

1757
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 4: was all Chargers pretty much after that in it was

1758
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 4: a Lad two point conversion. Ladd had a solid game.

1759
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 4: This was the Quinton Johnston game. Guys fourteen targets. He

1760
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 4: caught thirteen of them for one hundred and eighty six yards,

1761
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: including a one handed down the sideline to get to

1762
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,919
Speaker 4: one eighty six. When Harball says that's it, eventually everybody

1763
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 4: gets arrest. Here, the Chargers get exactly what they want.

1764
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 4: They've fully changed our perception of who they are offensively.

1765
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 4: When the start of the season it was pound the

1766
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 4: Rock Chargers, GrITT and grind. Here they almost went fifty

1767
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 4: to fifty run past thirty seven attempts for Justin Herbert,

1768
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 4: thirty five carries on the ground. A couple of those

1769
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 4: were huge Herbo runs. He had sixty yards on the

1770
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 4: ground pulled away.

1771
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

1772
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 4: A few Raiders defenders where you had a decent AOC

1773
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 4: game where the wheels kind of fell off late as

1774
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 4: the Chargers were able to get pressure. He had an

1775
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 4: interception as well. But this Chargers offense is really humming,

1776
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 4: and if Justin Herbert's playing like this, they will I'm

1777
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 4: considering as good as Baltimore looked out here playing against

1778
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 4: the Chargers, I'm comfortable playing the division rival as opposed

1779
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 4: to the way Justin Herbert and this Chargers team looks right.

1780
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 2: Oh, no question.

1781
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: My son is a Texans fan and he was rooting

1782
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: for this result, and I was saying, no, bro, you

1783
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: don't want you don't want this, you don't want hervo

1784
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: and He's like, no, the Chargers aren't as good as

1785
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I'm like, the Steelers have lost four straight

1786
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: and this Chargers team, I didn't know this was gonna happen.

1787
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: They just put up twenty six first downs four hundred

1788
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: and seventy three yards and again, you can look at

1789
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,879
Speaker 1: the opposition, but good offenses put up those sort of numbers.

1790
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 1: And I'm rethinking this Chargers team in general, this is

1791
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: going to become a trendy take. I suspect this week.

1792
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: But I've seen crazier Super Bowl teams than the Chargers. No,

1793
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like they're fourth in line. Obviously, you

1794
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: have Lamar Jackson and you have Josh Allen, and they're

1795
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: behind the one of the greatest teams of all time

1796
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 1: and the greatest quarterback I've ever seen. Like those are

1797
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: your three favorites, But I've seen more surprising and less

1798
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: talented Super Bowl teams than this Chargers team, who are

1799
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: peaking at the right time.

1800
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 2: Shook they're getting.

1801
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 1: They to me, just show what Harbaugh can do to

1802
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 1: development wise in his staff because Johnston. How about Disley

1803
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: comes back from his injury, has a really good game here,

1804
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: Dobbins is healthy again, and the way they've developed that defense,

1805
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 1: they're they're dangerous. And I haven't looked at the numbers yet.

1806
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're going to be favored in Houston. And

1807
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: I like that because I like spreading out all the

1808
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: potential contenders. If the divisional round is Burrow, I mean,

1809
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: so see there's a slip there, because we do love

1810
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: you Burrow. I mean, you are you deserve it to

1811
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: be watching best us. But if the divisional round is

1812
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: Mahomes v. Herbert and Lamar versus Josh Allen, I mean,

1813
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: that's pretty sweet.

1814
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: But that would be pretty sweet.

1815
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, because they're peaking at the right time.

1816
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 3: Like you said, I mean that's often what gets teams

1817
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 3: like this that on paper don't quite have as many

1818
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 3: weapons as some of the other teams. That's we'll get

1819
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 3: some of the deep playoff runs as that they peak

1820
01:26:58,400 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 3: at the right time. Now, that went over the Patriots.

1821
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,480
Speaker 3: I was like, you're playing the Patriots.

1822
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 4: Just whatever.

1823
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 3: But Quentin Johnson has been a guy who has not

1824
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 3: lived up to his status as a first round pick.

1825
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 3: Let's just face it, he's come together more this year

1826
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 3: than he did in his dreadful rookie year. But to

1827
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 3: have a game like this, and I don't care if

1828
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 3: it's against the Raiders, who sometimes gives some offenses more

1829
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 3: trouble than you think, especially with Max Crossley's out there,

1830
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 3: which he wasn't. But when you have him going off,

1831
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 3: then suddenly it's not just relying on Lad mccackey Stone

1832
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 3: Smart doesn't even show up in the box score, and

1833
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 3: that's been one of their go to targets the last

1834
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 3: few weeks. So they are starting to peak at the

1835
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 3: right time. And you never want to count out a

1836
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh coach team in the playoffs. So I agree,

1837
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 3: it'll be really interesting. We'll see.

1838
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1839
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: Shout out to AOC, the subject of my most medium

1840
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: warm take of all time, that he's going to have

1841
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,919
Speaker 1: an eight to ten year career for throwing Rock Bowers

1842
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: a garbage time touchdown to get Bowers his fifth touchdown

1843
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: of the season. Browers now has more receptions than any

1844
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Rock Bowers.

1845
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 2: I love you man.

1846
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 4: He also got Jacobe Myers's first one thousand yard season

1847
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 4: his career, So yeah, AOC, that's what pros do keep

1848
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 4: him hope floating.

1849
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: One injury note on this game is that Rashawn Slater

1850
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: didn't play a little confusing. He's getting an MRI. He

1851
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: wasn't on the injury report. Not sure what happened there,

1852
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: but he's the talented Pro Bowl left tackle for the Chargers,

1853
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: so obviously that is a big injury. With a matchup

1854
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: against the good pass rushers in Houston coming up, let's

1855
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: take a quick break. I'm going to come back finish

1856
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: out the games and also talk about one coaching change,

1857
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more Antonio pears to someone we're

1858
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: going to be keeping an eye on back after this.

1859
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 9: Hollard in the backfield, Levis under center and a bumble

1860
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 9: here as it's chased down by at the twenty five,

1861
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 9: twenty fifteen ten, Barnett still going at the five, taking

1862
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 9: people with them.

1863
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: All the way to the uds.

1864
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 12: Barnett does it again, his second.

1865
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: Touchdown of the year. Big guy running and scoring.

1866
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: Wonder if you could have gotten the odds for Derek

1867
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: Barnett scoring two touchdowns in one year.

1868
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: That is about one million to one.

1869
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 1: The former Eagle lineman scoops and scores. Yes, that's Mark

1870
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: Vandermere excited. The Texans, mostly playing their backups after the

1871
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: first couple of drives, beat the Titans in Tennessee twenty

1872
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: three to fourteen. The Titans remain winless when they wear

1873
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: those Oilers uniforms, just bad vibes, bad karma. You're just

1874
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: sticking it in their eye. I think it's untoured and

1875
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: they were punished. I mean, you're you're good enough to

1876
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: like put on the Oilers' uniforms and send these tweets

1877
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: just trying to trying to needle your the team in

1878
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: the city that you stole the team from, and you

1879
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: can't even get anyone to go to your games.

1880
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 2: I can't remember.

1881
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: A game that had less fans at it than this one,

1882
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: and I don't blame them, to be clear, it is

1883
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: not the fans fault.

1884
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 2: It is raining there and it is pointless.

1885
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: But that place was absolutely empty and the Texans just

1886
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: took care of business.

1887
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 4: The second saddest fan shot that I have seen this week.

1888
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 4: The saddest was the one Browns fan in Baltimore after

1889
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 4: Michael Pierce interception, just standing there while everybody went nuts.

1890
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 4: The second one was the person sitting in the absolute

1891
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 4: top section eight oh one in Nissan Stadium in Nashville,

1892
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 4: in the rain, with an ocean of available seats in

1893
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 4: front of him, watching the Titans turn the ball over

1894
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 4: time after time against the Houston Texans. It was a

1895
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 4: miserable looking performance. And I don't know if it was

1896
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 4: the uniforms or maybe Will Levis and Mason Rudolph, Oh

1897
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 4: my god, combining to do absolutely nothing.

1898
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 2: All right, at the end of the let's let Rudolph

1899
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 2: off the hook.

1900
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 4: Here.

1901
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: I went hard on the Titans here, you know, for

1902
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 1: game debut, I picked him. I didn't know Levis was

1903
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna start that that actually would have changed my mind.

1904
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Lewis started, played most of the game. Rudolph actually went

1905
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: seven for nine for seventy yards and was moving the ball.

1906
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: They had like a fourth down stop. They couldn't run

1907
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: the ball on the goal line. And they're like, oh uh,

1908
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: we're trying to tank here. He's doing too well. Let's

1909
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: put Levis back in. So Lewis started was terrible, and

1910
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: then they put him back in, and he actually ended

1911
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: up with the lowest QBR of.

1912
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 2: Any player in any game all season.

1913
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 4: Oh, the title goes to Will Levis the game for that,

1914
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 4: You mean not in the game where he threw his

1915
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 4: picked six against Chicago.

1916
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Crazy shout out to QBR because he like had a

1917
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: passing touchdown in deep garbage time and ended up with

1918
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five yards and seventeen attempts. So

1919
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have thought that would have happened. But my

1920
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: eyes say QBR ball because it was that bad. The

1921
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: two play sequence of him going absolutely crazy, celebrating with

1922
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,480
Speaker 1: like the money at the Strip club, you know, celebration

1923
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 1: after he throws a dime to Calvin Ridley down the

1924
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: field to get a thirty nine yard catch to Ridley,

1925
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 1: and everyone there on the Titans knew that got.

1926
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 2: Ridley over a thousand yards. That got Ridley in.

1927
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,480
Speaker 3: That's why he was making it rain Okay.

1928
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 2: Cool, I love it.

1929
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: But he was celebrating that thing because I think he

1930
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: loves ball, he loves his teammates.

1931
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: He's going absolutely nuts.

1932
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: And then the whiplast for the very next play to

1933
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: be that fumble recovery return. It was just like Will

1934
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: Levis and that wasn't really his fault. I don't think

1935
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: he put it in this. Yeah, you know, the ball

1936
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: carrier's belly and it just was a fumble. It was

1937
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: just a bad but that was kind of Titans in

1938
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: a nutshell this season, and so you did it. You

1939
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 1: got the number one overall pick. I don't have much

1940
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: more to say.

1941
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 4: No shout out to Damian Peercey had a ninety two

1942
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 4: yard gatch run in this game. That was part of

1943
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 4: the big part of the difference.

1944
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: I also watched this game thinking Davis Mills is definitely

1945
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: better than any Titans quarterback. I was kind I'm always

1946
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 1: moderately impressed by Davis Mills.

1947
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,639
Speaker 4: Congratulations to a very tall man for clearing a very

1948
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 4: low bar.

1949
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing actually you should take from this

1950
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 1: game is that they played this perfectly. This is the

1951
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: dream of what you want to do when you're resting

1952
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:28,799
Speaker 1: some of your starters.

1953
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 2: CJ.

1954
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: Stroud played one drive. He hit Nico Collins on a

1955
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. He goes six for six, made a couple

1956
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: of nice throws. They were good on third down on

1957
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 1: that drive. Then you got him out of there. You

1958
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: kept the defensive starters in for a couple drives, you

1959
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: got some stops, and then the backups won the game

1960
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 1: for you and ended along losing streak. And so that

1961
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: was absolutely perfect for the Texans that at least get

1962
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 1: off the schneid, not join the Steelers as a team

1963
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: with a four game losing streak heading into the playoffs.

1964
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 1: And not for nothing, keep my undefeated streak in the

1965
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: over under draft that we do every season, oh alive,

1966
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: three straight seasons undefeated. I needed this Texans win to

1967
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: get over the top. Maybe we'll review some of these

1968
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: picks at some point. It's really not that important, but.

1969
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 4: That's very important.

1970
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: It was on my mind that I think it's it's

1971
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: now up to a combined eleven and zero.

1972
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 4: Look at that.

1973
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: It's bankable, and maybe the Texans, maybe maybe they'll play

1974
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: their best next week. We'll be able to talk about

1975
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: that throughout the course of the week. I think they'll

1976
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: feel better about themselves after this. Let's stay in the

1977
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: AFC South. Let's go to Indianapolis.

1978
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 2: Second down in one for the Colts. Flacco goes out

1979
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 2: of the pistol formation.

1980
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 4: Who's Michael Pitman Junior in motion?

1981
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 8: Back in the throw is Flacco hashtime since the.

1982
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 4: Rainbow down the right sideline. Underneath it is Alec Pears.

1983
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 12: He's got it touchdown forty yards deep.

1984
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,759
Speaker 2: Bob Alan Pierce the Midwestern missile.

1985
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 5: Flac put it right on the and the coldstraw first

1986
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 5: blood with a huge play in the passing game.

1987
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 4: It's six to nothing. We're just over a minute gone

1988
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 4: in the first quarter.

1989
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:13,919
Speaker 1: Shout out to Alec Pierce, sneaky candidate for most Improved

1990
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: player of the season. That was an award sneaky candidate

1991
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:22,759
Speaker 1: for surprise value add of the season. He entered Sunday

1992
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: averaging twenty one point nine yards per catch and because.

1993
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 2: Of that catch there, he just raised it even more.

1994
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the last time you'll hear Matt Taylor on

1995
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: WF and I Colts win twenty six to twenty three.

1996
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: Maybe the last time this stich in Chris Ballard combo

1997
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 1: is around. But the Colts did get a win in overtime.

1998
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 1: Sixty minutes was not enough to decide this one shook.

1999
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 3: When your first highlight and your highlight that's chosen for

2000
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 3: the show, arrives in the first minute and ten seconds

2001
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 3: of the game, you know the rest of the game

2002
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 3: is going to be kind of gross. And that's what

2003
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 3: this game was. It was Joe Flacco dropping back in

2004
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 3: tossing prayers that may or may not have been caught

2005
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 3: his receiving corps did a great job of bailing him

2006
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 3: out a couple of times today. Michael Pittman, Josh Downs,

2007
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 3: and Alec Pierce all did a great job. It's Mac

2008
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 3: Jones dropping back in trying to find guys downfield and

2009
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 3: missing them by five yards over their head, but then

2010
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 3: he finds Brian Thomas Junior down the field for a

2011
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 3: big completion. It's Jonathan Taylor running thirty four times for

2012
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy seven yards in a touchdown, and

2013
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 3: yet somehow that game makes it to overtime. It was

2014
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 3: a good way for Gus Bradley's defense. Surprisingly, I know

2015
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't sound like it to go out because he's

2016
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 3: basically guaranteed to be gone from there because they got

2017
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 3: stops in overtime to be able to get them this victory.

2018
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 3: But then again, it is against the Jaguars who do

2019
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 3: a nice job of fighting to the end for Doug Peterson,

2020
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 3: who we should also probably expect to be gone and

2021
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 3: still come up short because that is the way this

2022
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 3: entire season has gone.

2023
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian Thomas with another big game, gets to eighty

2024
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: seven catches and over twelve hundred and fifty yards incredible

2025
01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: rookie season. As we're taping, we got some breaking news.

2026
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 1: Jim Ursay has announced there will be no changes for

2027
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: the Colts.

2028
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 15: Oh.

2029
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: I believe in Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen and our

2030
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: collective ability to make the improvements needed to take us

2031
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: to the next level. In twenty twenty five. We're going

2032
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: to talk about the Patriots shortly. The length of this

2033
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: statement indicates to me he had made up his mind

2034
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: before Sunday and he just wanted to nip this in

2035
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 1: the bud and just let the fans kind of know

2036
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: this is going to be the plan.

2037
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 2: Do you think it's the right move?

2038
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 4: Patrick? I did notice a absence between Chris Ballard and

2039
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 4: Shane Steikeen, no mention of Gus Bradley in that and

2040
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 4: down the stretch, at least for the Colts playoff hopes,

2041
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 4: the defense led by Gus Bradley probably the most glaring error,

2042
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 4: whether it was Anthony Richardson or Joe Flacco down the

2043
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:02,479
Speaker 4: stretch to give up three percent again of the Giants

2044
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 4: points that they scored at MetLife this season in one

2045
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 4: game to the Colts to essentially doom their season a

2046
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 4: week after they were somehow given another chance as the

2047
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 4: AFC playoff race, teams kind of started the limp across

2048
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 4: the finish line. It's I think consistency and having that

2049
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 4: same staff be around as good for Anthony Richardson's development, yep,

2050
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 4: which is kind of the most important part. They just

2051
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 4: got to figure out how they are gonna build this

2052
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 4: roster and come with a different mindset to the to

2053
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 4: the value savings picks that they've tried to do.

2054
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there could be some major changes on the

2055
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: offensive line. We don't know if Ryan Kelly's gonna be back.

2056
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 1: There's some defensive decisions to make. Jimmercy says, I know

2057
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 1: fans who wanted a media change in leadership will be disappointed.

2058
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: That means we have a lot to prove and I

2059
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 1: like this decision. Yeah, I actually think continuity is underrated.

2060
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: I just didn't like the idea of taking Ballard out

2061
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: and then adding a new GM. I think you do

2062
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: it all together, and it's not like you're setting them

2063
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 1: up to fail next year. You're just giving them a

2064
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 1: third year of this stike in era and then evaluating. Obviously,

2065
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs next year, we know

2066
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, but with Richardson in mine, with continuity

2067
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 1: in terms of the coach and the GM being on

2068
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 1: the same page in mind, I also get the Colts'

2069
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: frustrations and their fans and if they're back in this

2070
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: same spot next year, they're gonna be even angrier and

2071
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 1: say I told you so. But I think in this moment,

2072
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 1: this makes sense to me. All right, let's go to

2073
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 1: one NFC game, which is kind of like a straggler,

2074
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: but it's the one that didn't matter, so we didn't

2075
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: want to put it up at the top. Actually, it

2076
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: was kind of fun to watch today. Cardinals forty nine

2077
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: ers to Arizona.

2078
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 19: Harrison Why to the ride on first and ten at

2079
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 19: the San Francisco twelve three tight end set, shotgun snap

2080
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 19: Murray throw a fade right side.

2081
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 20: Of the end zone, im the money to Marvin Harrison Junior.

2082
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 2: Touchdown. What a throw by Murray.

2083
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 19: That's a sport touchdown pass tying a career high.

2084
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,719
Speaker 13: You can see that coming a mile away. Marvin Harrison

2085
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 13: Junior lined up to the rights of Kyler Murray one

2086
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 13: on one, and sure enough, Kyler Murray put it out

2087
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 13: there and Marvin Harrison Junior went.

2088
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: And got it Kyler Murray with four touchdowns in two

2089
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 1: hundred and forty two yards as the Cardinals put up

2090
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 1: forty seven forty nine ers a forty burger to finish

2091
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,800
Speaker 1: the season at eight and nine, forty nine ers fall

2092
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:36,759
Speaker 1: to six and eleven. Trey McBride got another touchdown catch

2093
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: in this game.

2094
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 2: What is he?

2095
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett two touchdowns now, although to be fair to McBride,

2096
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: he did have a rushed one and a fumble recovery one,

2097
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: so he actually has four touchdowns yeah total this season.

2098
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Cardinals, who I think slightly beat

2099
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 1: expectations this season and were more fun to watch than

2100
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 1: most teams.

2101
01:40:56,640 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the disappointment in how the season ended was

2102
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 4: because they exceeded those expectations point where you started to believe,

2103
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 4: and then they had the late closing seconds loss to Seattle,

2104
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 4: the one to the Minnesota Vikings, who again or fourteen

2105
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 4: got fourteen wins on the season. It was a spectacular

2106
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,560
Speaker 4: run for the Cardinals for a stretch and then we

2107
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 4: kind of got glimpses into what could have been. That

2108
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison junior touchdown came after Keith Jarld Clark had

2109
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 4: what we thought was a pick six before, but they

2110
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 4: said he did not catch it, and so it comes

2111
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 4: back out. Kyler throws the touchdown pass to Marvin. As

2112
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 4: you mentioned, Trey McBride gets in the end zone. This

2113
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 4: is a game they're playing without James Connor and they're

2114
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 4: going up against a pastronaut led forty nine ers offense

2115
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 4: where Sean Murphy Bunting and Juwan Jennings got into it

2116
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,799
Speaker 4: to the point where they got two offsetting personal fouls.

2117
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 4: Wow on the same skirmish, and Jawan Jennings got ran

2118
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,759
Speaker 4: from this game with nine hundred and seventy five receiving

2119
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 4: It was fifteen yards away, but he gets run from

2120
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 4: the game for fighting with Sean Murphy Bunting. It was

2121
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 4: Josh topstorm for three hundred twenty six yards. Up and

2122
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 4: down the field they went, but the forty nine Ers

2123
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 4: could make the plays down the stretches of the Cardinals

2124
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,480
Speaker 4: because a fun week eighteen finish the football.

2125
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 1: Which have some small takeaways that I think are meaningful.

2126
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Pierce All finishes the season really strong, six for sixty

2127
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: nine and a touchdown, So two really good games from him. Yes,

2128
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 1: that was the ultimate Past're not games four hundred and

2129
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 1: thirty six yards of forty nine Ers offense. But he

2130
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: did have three turnovers and that was kind of the

2131
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: difference to the Cardinals take advantage, and you know, I like

2132
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 1: the continuity here. The forty nine Ers aren't making any

2133
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: changes in terms of I don't think any part of

2134
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 1: their coaching staff, at least at the coordinator or above level,

2135
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: and certainly not at the GM level. I think the

2136
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to come back. That is a loaded division,

2137
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 1: But I think these are four organizations that are run

2138
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: pretty well there in the NFC West. You cannot say

2139
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 1: the same about what's happening in New England. Let's go

2140
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: to five gifts it off his left year to receiver

2141
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: stack on a high stap.

2142
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 2: Wanted it waltzing look from Joe Milton.

2143
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:15,640
Speaker 4: What the exclamation mark? Good energy here to start this

2144
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 4: football game for the offense.

2145
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 13: After Drake Bay comes out and boughtsoci what the call

2146
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 13: getting Milton outside off the play fake.

2147
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 12: That's a good first drive for Joe Milton, who has

2148
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 12: a play to snap all year.

2149
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 2: Gets the week eighteen goss is it with a perfect flip? Oh,

2150
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 2: Scott Zolac, didn't hear from you?

2151
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Much this year, but we got you on the Joe

2152
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 1: Milton rushing touchdown with a flip celebration. Yeah, the Patriots

2153
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: won twenty three to sixteen in a game with a

2154
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: lot of Joe Milton highlights.

2155
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 2: His best play was probably the one that was called back.

2156
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 4: It was so good we ran that highlight. The play

2157
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 4: didn't count, we ran the highlight on the show because it.

2158
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 2: Was so Who caught that one? Was that Douglas?

2159
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 4: I think it was Pop Douglas.

2160
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 1: That's one of the throws of the year by Joe Milton,

2161
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: but he had plenty of other good throws. He got

2162
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown in this game to Keyshaun Body. He had

2163
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one yards. And yeah, the Patriots won.

2164
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: They will not pick first overall. They beat the Bills

2165
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: backups and the Bills. I don't know if they really

2166
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 1: cared about the Patriots getting the first overall pick, but

2167
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 1: if they did care removing Mitch Trubisky, who started the game,

2168
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 1: well technically actually he came in for Josh Allen, who

2169
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: had played one snap, handed the ball off, and then

2170
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Trubisky came in removing him for Mike White. When you

2171
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,479
Speaker 1: actually have a lead in the second half, it was

2172
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: sixteen to fourteen Bills. That would be the way to

2173
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: prevent your division rival from getting the one pick. I

2174
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: don't really think they cared that much, but that's what happened.

2175
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Joe Milton led them to three more field goals after that,

2176
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: and the Patriots won. I thought that would be the

2177
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: biggest item to come from this game. The Bills were

2178
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,680
Speaker 1: locked in at the two seed all along. As we

2179
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: said before, they're going to be playing the Broncos. But

2180
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 1: Bob Kraft did not waste any time and he made

2181
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: an announcement that Grod Mayo is out after one season

2182
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: as Patriots head coach. I can get into the statement,

2183
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: but your thoughts, Patrick, We talked about this possibility coming.

2184
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: I heard from people who are closer to the situation

2185
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: from me that it wasn't going to happen, and yet

2186
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I thought, based on the evidence of what happened this season,

2187
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: there was a strong chance, and it happened. Maybe it's

2188
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: because they want to go get Mike Rabel.

2189
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 2: Maybe not. We'll find out.

2190
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, the maybe aspect, I think you make this change,

2191
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 4: it perhaps signals that you know what you want, you

2192
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 4: think you have an inside shot at that. But the mystery,

2193
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 4: the consternation, the substrifuge coming out of Foxborough is not

2194
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 4: new to me. This has been happening the whole time.

2195
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 4: The problem is the Patriots had the one of the

2196
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 4: best quarterbacks, the best quarterback to ever play the game,

2197
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 4: and they were winning Super Bowls, and that winning is

2198
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 4: the ultimate deodorant to all of this chaos that is

2199
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 4: constantly happening. And we look back and we've got stops

2200
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:18,160
Speaker 4: of coaches interviews, We've got GMS leaving and then not leaving,

2201
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 4: then Nick Cassario goes, we have multiple investigations and lawsuits,

2202
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 4: all of this stuff. None of it is new. This

2203
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 4: stuff has always happened in New England. The problem is

2204
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 4: they were losing. They lose the exact same number of

2205
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 4: games that they lost last year with the best coach ever.

2206
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 4: And so now you go one and done with a coach.

2207
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 4: I just hope for the Patriots and for the coach

2208
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 4: that they hire that they want him to be there

2209
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 4: d and he wants to D. No, I want them

2210
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 4: to lose every game. But you know that's just my

2211
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 4: relationship with the franchise. But you know, just for the

2212
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 4: sake of the people on the staff and the players

2213
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 4: and the fans who yes, you know a lot of

2214
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 4: them are great people. I'm sitting next to one. I

2215
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 4: would just like everybody to want everybody to be there.

2216
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 4: Clearly wasn't the case this year.

2217
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the same franchise that employed Jack Easterby

2218
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 1: for quite a while. Let's look at craft statements. Now,

2219
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: he obviously wanted this to work out. It's not like

2220
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: he didn't want Drod Mayo to work out. But ultimately,

2221
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: when it became a situation, am I going to stand

2222
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: by this guy that I told everyone that I wanted

2223
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: as my coach for five years? He told that story

2224
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: to a lot of people. They did this trip to

2225
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 1: Israel at one point that Mayo was on and he

2226
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,719
Speaker 1: saw this leadership in Mayo, and when Mayo was getting

2227
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: head coaching interviews a couple off seasons ago, then he

2228
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: signed him to the contract that guaranteed he'd be the

2229
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 1: head coach in waiting. Let's look at the statement that

2230
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: Kraft made. He said he informed Mayo that he will

2231
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 1: not be returning For me personally, this is one of

2232
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: the hardest decisions I've ever made. I've known Jirod for

2233
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: seventeen years. It goes on from there, but he said

2234
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: when other teams started requesting an interview and my feared

2235
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 1: I would lose him and committed to making him our

2236
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 1: next head coach, winning our season opener on the road

2237
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati only strengthened my convictions. He goes on and

2238
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 1: essentially says, I'm a steward of the team. I apologize

2239
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 1: for what's happened the last couple of years. And I

2240
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: do think he knows Robert Kraft that this is a

2241
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: dent on how he's viewed publicly. I think he was

2242
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 1: telling he was at the Celtics game the other night.

2243
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 1: They didn't show him on the jumbo dron because they

2244
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:35,680
Speaker 1: know at this point Patriots fans will boo him, like

2245
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 1: how much the fan.

2246
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 2: Like reaction to him matters. Only he could say that.

2247
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 1: But I think people look at the Brady Belichick era

2248
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 1: differently already because of what's happened, and he saw the

2249
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 1: way this is going, and he maybe sees a life

2250
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 1: preserver in Mike Rabil, whether that's a good idea or not,

2251
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,839
Speaker 1: and thinks I need to get out of this now

2252
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: to possibly save it, because clearly he made a bad

2253
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: choice with Durrowd Mayo, like if he's making if he's

2254
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: pulling the ripcord after one year, it speaks to organizational

2255
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 1: problems that go far beyond Drod Mayo, who was put

2256
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: in a even though I think he did a horrible

2257
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 1: job this year and ultimately this was the right decision

2258
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, that just gets to it. He was

2259
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 1: put in a terrible spot, shook and isn't at the

2260
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 1: most fault of what's going on with the Patriots.

2261
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was pretty convinced that they were gonna hang

2262
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 3: on to him because of the one and done, because

2263
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 3: he was so convinced that this was the guy to

2264
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 3: succeed Belichick and everything that you just discussed about the

2265
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 3: lead up and making him the head coach in waiting.

2266
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 3: So the fact that he got fired was a shock

2267
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 3: to me. But the results also do speak to themselves.

2268
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 3: They were dysfunctional, they were disorganized. He mishandled a lot

2269
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 3: of different situations, even go back to the Matthew Judon

2270
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 3: thing during camp and making it kind of a bit

2271
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 3: of a disagreement that happened in public, and you know,

2272
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 3: obviously there's two parties involved in that, but also what

2273
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,679
Speaker 3: did he have to worry with, you know, what type

2274
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,560
Speaker 3: of talent did he really have? On either side of

2275
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 3: the ball. Their offensive line was a mess. They lacked

2276
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 3: weapons for most of this season. Kaisehon Boody's had a

2277
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 3: nice little spot, but you know, jalb Polk's been a

2278
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,640
Speaker 3: no show and that's a guy that they lifted over

2279
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 3: Lad McCaughey, as Matt Mouney Smith like to highlight in

2280
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 3: the recent performance. And defensively, your best front seven guy,

2281
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 3: Christian Barmore, you know, it has to deal with blood

2282
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 3: clots and can't play for most of the season, So

2283
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 3: you lack talent back there too. You have minimal pieces

2284
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 3: right now, What were you really going to do? And yet,

2285
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 3: if Mike Rabel wasn't out there, I don't know if

2286
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 3: they necessarily would have made this change, even as ugly

2287
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:34,680
Speaker 3: as it has been this year.

2288
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 2: Okay, so a couple of points there.

2289
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't think this four and thirteen was the same

2290
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 1: as last year's four and thirteen because Number one, you

2291
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: got really good quarterback play out of Drake May. Number two,

2292
01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: their schedule was much harder last year. They faced one

2293
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 1: of the easiest schedules in the league this year, and

2294
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: then number three. Mayo was a defensive coach, and the

2295
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,759
Speaker 1: defense which was excellent last year, top ten with basically

2296
01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: the same players who you gave a lot of money to.

2297
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: I know there were injuries, but there were a lot

2298
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 1: of injuries last year too. The defense, which was his

2299
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: side of the ball, fell off a cliff, So that's

2300
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: on the field off the field. I think it's what

2301
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: got him fired though, was that the way he handled

2302
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: the media and his players was a mess. That he

2303
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 1: wasn't consistent in terms of I think the leadership he

2304
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:21,879
Speaker 1: had publicly and it was just just a little sloppy

2305
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,640
Speaker 1: in front of the microphone. It really reminded me of

2306
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens and Nate Hackett more than anyone in that.

2307
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: I just think he was a little not ready for

2308
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 1: that part of the job. That's my opinion, And like

2309
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: it's a bad situation because of what I said before that, Yes,

2310
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 1: I think the antipathy towards Mayo and Boston was absolutely

2311
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 1: more because he was a black head coach and so

2312
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 1: combining all that together is messy and I don't think

2313
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,839
Speaker 1: necessarily going back to the well if that's what happens

2314
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 1: with like Mike Rabel and Josh McDaniels is a good idea.

2315
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 1: Maybe it gets you back up to a certain level,

2316
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 1: maybe not even But I actually think everything that happened

2317
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 1: in the past that's the past. You really think Rabel

2318
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 1: and McDaniels are the ones thinking in the future of

2319
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: where the NFL is going. It's a little poisonous to

2320
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 1: me to go back to everything like trying to recreate

2321
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:15,240
Speaker 1: the old times.

2322
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 2: It shows to me that maybe they're out of ideas.

2323
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: And I think that was also part of what got

2324
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Mayo fired is I think Rabel will be able to

2325
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 1: hire a better staff. Mayo could not hire this staff

2326
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,160
Speaker 1: because I don't think he had contacts. He had never

2327
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: worked outside of that building. He didn't have an idea

2328
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 1: of how to do offense. He didn't know how to hire.

2329
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 1: Everyone on the inside was just like more Belichick kids

2330
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 1: and other guys who had been there, and it was tough.

2331
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,120
Speaker 1: And he was on like the twelfth pick of his coordinator.

2332
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: So it was just a lot that went into it.

2333
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's bad. This is a

2334
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: bad franchise and yet they have two franchise quarterbacks.

2335
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,639
Speaker 2: We have just made the ENVA of the league.

2336
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 1: Two young franchise quarterbacks under cheap contract control for three

2337
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 1: straight years. We got Drake May and Joe Milton. Forget

2338
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: losing the one pick. We can trade Joe Miller for

2339
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:01,000
Speaker 1: a first.

2340
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, flip Joe Milton for a couple of first rounders

2341
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 4: based on his Yeah, why not get him in there?

2342
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 4: I just the chaos is is going to be there? Uh,

2343
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 4: the roster issues are there. Mike Rabel, who famously likes

2344
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 4: to actually get in there and work with Lineman during

2345
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 4: during draft season, like he's integral to that draft process.

2346
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 4: How does he feel about the current front office staff?

2347
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 4: If he's the choice, he might have it, He might

2348
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 4: have an option. Chicago may be able to make a

2349
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 4: very interesting.

2350
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 2: With the Jets.

2351
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 1: He's already interviewed with the Jets, who are also interviewing

2352
01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan on Tuesday.

2353
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of those three places has a GM in place,

2354
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 3: though they have the two don't. Yeah, well two of

2355
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 3: them do.

2356
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 4: And so it's like, how does how does the process work?

2357
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 4: What's the long term plan? You just got rid of

2358
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 4: somebody who was tied to the previous regime. Rabel, while

2359
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,680
Speaker 4: he had a great run in Nashville with opportunities like

2360
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 4: they were close. It's not like the Titans just kind

2361
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 4: of flamed out all the time. The Titans to lead

2362
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 4: over that Bengals team that was an Aaron Donald sack

2363
01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 4: away from winning the Super Bowl. The Titans conceivably could

2364
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:10,760
Speaker 4: have been there during this label era. And it's you know,

2365
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 4: he'll have his choice, But I just think everybody needs

2366
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 4: to go in and make sure that this is what

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01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 4: they want because.

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Speaker 1: A lot of those times I don't want any of

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01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 1: it are not changing. I want an offensive minded head coach.

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01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: I think you look at what if I said all year,

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01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 1: what matters about the Patriots Drake May, it's all that matters.

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01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: So if you're and maybe Rabel has an idea of like,

2373
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 1: here's the offensive staff I'm going to hire, and hear

2374
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 1: the names and it's a great idea, I don't know.

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01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 1: All I know is he's he's recently gotten a chance

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01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 1: to hire two different offensive coordinators and his choices were

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01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 1: Tim Kelly and Todd Downing. And so that doesn't give

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01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 1: me a ton of confidence that he's the right guy

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 1: to bring this great young quarterback into the future. We

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01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: will see and yes, Bill's fans, we'll be talking about

2381
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: your team plenty. I think it's going to be a

2382
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: long playoff run. Eric, I'm looking forward to it. Okay,

2383
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: now it's time, yes to talk about the best teams.

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01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 2: Fourteen teams remain. It's a tournament.

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01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: It's single elimination, Nick, it's the greatest tournament known to man.

2386
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: Forget the NCAA tournament. They got sixty eight teams they're

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01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 1: playing and all this nonsense. It's a tournament and I,

2388
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: for one, I'm looking forward to it, and I'm looking

2389
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: forward to previewing it. We've got our normal slatest shows.

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01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 1: We're going to do a live show actually on Saturday

2391
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: night recapping those games, but we'll be back here on

2392
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 1: Sunday night with you. Appreciate you all season long, shook

2393
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: on these regular season games, you know, less games on

2394
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 1: upcoming Sundays, but we'll be doing that wild card game

2395
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: as well.

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01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 2: How was a trip back by the way to Cleveland.

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01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 3: Well, it was like a typical flight across the country

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01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 3: when you connect through one airport. But it was great.

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01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 3: It's been a privilege to be here, and I'm glad

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01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 3: that we're not done, that the playoffs are just getting started.

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01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 3: Where it's you know, you said you call it a tournament.

2402
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 3: If you're western Pennsylvania or somewhere along the East coast,

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01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 3: you might even call it a tournament, which has always

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01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 3: bothered me.

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01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: Yes, and we're gonna have to try to get permission

2406
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: from the Claybonn family to stay to stay late these

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01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: Sunday nights.

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01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 4: Let's let's do it moving forward. Let's run it back.

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01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 4: The tournament. It is all that. It is the randomness,

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01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 4: the way the things go. You can have a really,

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01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 4: really good team done. That's that's the blessing and the

2412
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 4: curse of a single elimination tournament. And then after the fact,

2413
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 4: everybody will pretend like the results were dictated and we

2414
01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 4: knew it all along. But that's all along.

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01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know anything all along, but we want we

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01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 1: will be making our predictions and uh spoiler, I'm sticking

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01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 1: with my preseason one who was Bill's Live. You know,

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01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 1: as we go along, you know the path, we'll have

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01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: different ways, uh to pick it. But yeah, we have

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01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 1: a lot to get to before then. Like I said,

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01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 1: I will be back on Monday, hopefully, got a little

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01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 1: special guest.

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01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 2: It's going to be kind of like a tight little

2424
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 2: news show on Monday.

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01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, for patri Clavon, for Chris behind the Glass,

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01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: Eric Roberts, Nick Schuck, congratulations to Kevin patra on the Lions.

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01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 2: Yes, when there's only thirteen games left of the season,

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01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 2: you know football is back