Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague,
Speaker 1: West Hodkuits. We're coming to you here from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West were coming off of rookie
Speaker 1: orientation weekend and annual tradition here in Green Bay. It's
Speaker 1: our first look and the Packers coaches first look at
Speaker 1: the draft picks, the undrafted rookies, that whole class of
Speaker 1: coming into the Packers roster. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: fans wondering, Okay, so what are the first impressions of
Speaker 1: these top two picks JR. Alexander Josh Jackson, the two
Speaker 1: cornerbacks the Packers took in the first two rounds. What
Speaker 1: were your impressions, Yinging Yang, We're the first thing that
Speaker 1: came to mind when I saw these two guys. It
Speaker 1: just seems like they complement each other really well. And
Speaker 1: I know it's a conversation you and I had over
Speaker 1: the weekend to just looking at JayR. Alexander, big personality,
Speaker 1: very extroverted, outgoing free you know, uh, it seems like
Speaker 1: a fun loving individual A bit I think as everybody's
Speaker 1: talked about numerous times now a shorter back. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this, I wouldn't call him small. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a pretty stack guy. He looks like
Speaker 1: he's gonna hold up in the NFL. And obviously the
Speaker 1: playmaking goes without saying. Then you look at a guy
Speaker 1: like Josh Jackson, much more reserved, much more business like.
Speaker 1: Uh And really, as far as the styles are concerned,
Speaker 1: compliments Alexander really, well, he's a taller guy, made a
Speaker 1: lot of plays as well in college, but did it
Speaker 1: in a different way. So I think the exciting thing
Speaker 1: about these two defense and backs of the Packers God
Speaker 1: is they're just they have such contrasting personalities and such
Speaker 1: contrasting styles. But on the field, you know, you and
Speaker 1: I got to see it on Friday, Joe Witt coaching
Speaker 1: them up. I mean, this is already they're they're ripping
Speaker 1: and rolling, and you know they're on their way now
Speaker 1: towards trying to help this team in two thousand eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and in that first practice that we got to look at,
Speaker 1: it definitely stood out how often Alexander and Jackson both
Speaker 1: got their hands on passes. Now, obviously these are not
Speaker 1: passes being thrown by Aaron Rodgers by any means, but um,
Speaker 1: their playmakers, they go after the ball. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know ball hawk is kind of a cliche term, but
Speaker 1: it really does kind of fit these guys, and when
Speaker 1: you look at it, you know, his best season, Alexander
Speaker 1: had five interceptions, Jackson had eight last season for the
Speaker 1: Iowa Hawkeyes and UM. But it also, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: the personalities are different because when asked about it afterwards,
Speaker 1: Alexander's comment was, well, those are going to turn into
Speaker 1: picks pretty soon. That's an idea of his outgoing personality,
Speaker 1: whereas Jackson is commenting on the fact that it's not
Speaker 1: used to so many cameras coming from the University of Iowa.
Speaker 1: So that gives you a little bit of a flavor
Speaker 1: of these two guys. But they seem to get along
Speaker 1: really well. They actually met at the scouting combine, um
Speaker 1: Alexander saying he went up to Jackson and kind of
Speaker 1: complimented him on his game and said, hey, I thought
Speaker 1: you should have won the Thorpe Award. The Jim Thorpe
Speaker 1: Ward is the given annually to the nation's top defensive back.
Speaker 1: They kind of hit it off from there, and um
Speaker 1: and lo and behold they both end up in Green Bay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was funny too because one of the things we
Speaker 1: heard during the conference calls the first day of the
Speaker 1: Packers draft Alexanders that he's a talker. And we actually
Speaker 1: heard that on the practice field on Friday too when
Speaker 1: we were out there. I mean, there was a couple
Speaker 1: of times where he batted balls, another time where he
Speaker 1: thought he should have the interception. He was already talking
Speaker 1: about it, you know, in terms of, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of just a pep talk to himself. Um, you get
Speaker 1: his personality. And I think one of the things that
Speaker 1: was funny too, I went up and introduced myself to him,
Speaker 1: and he said, Hey, you know, I'm Jayre. You probably
Speaker 1: already knew that though, you know, just based on all
Speaker 1: the attention he's been getting in the media, interviews and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So I thought it was funny too. He did a
Speaker 1: social media Twitter Q and A with fans with our
Speaker 1: social media manager Ryan Hartwig and somebody that has to
Speaker 1: what was it like or what how did you react
Speaker 1: when you got your phone call that you've been drafted.
Speaker 1: He actually got his cell phone out and started reenacting
Speaker 1: exactly what he did. I mean, that's the kind of
Speaker 1: personality he is. Uh. And I think the thing that
Speaker 1: is exciting though, is that, you know, you look at
Speaker 1: Joe witz track record with these guys, He's had a
Speaker 1: lot of different guys from a lot of different walks
Speaker 1: of life. Perennial pro bowler, Heisman Trophy winner like Charles Woodson.
Speaker 1: He's had an undrafted free agent off a practice squad
Speaker 1: like Tremont Williams. So many different guys have come through
Speaker 1: his room. And regardless of your background, regardless of your personality,
Speaker 1: regardless of your skill set, they've been able to have
Speaker 1: success in Green Bay. That's what the Packers are looking
Speaker 1: now from both Alexander and Jackson. And to have the fact,
Speaker 1: you know, to add in the fact that there is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a relationship there in a history,
Speaker 1: I think is only going to make that bond that
Speaker 1: much stronger. Yeah. Well, and from a schematic standpoint, it
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see just how new defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Mike Petton wants to use these guys. There's certainly not
Speaker 1: being pigeonholed by any means right away, because in the
Speaker 1: practice that we witnessed, we saw them both lining up
Speaker 1: as a boundary corner, lining up as a slot corner.
Speaker 1: They've had some snaps and press man some other snaps
Speaker 1: and sort of off the ball are off the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage type of coverage. So really just just an
Speaker 1: introduction and whatnot. But I think Mike Petton is probably
Speaker 1: going to use O. T. A S in particular and
Speaker 1: maybe even the early stages of training camp to really
Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, what are these guys going to be
Speaker 1: able to do best as rookies at this level. Because
Speaker 1: as much as the Packers obviously want to develop them
Speaker 1: and bring them along and neither one of them is
Speaker 1: a finished product, they also need to find what they
Speaker 1: do best right now because the Packers are going to
Speaker 1: need them as rookies and this is this is not
Speaker 1: the time for red shirts with these guys. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: in that nature that position, you and I have talked
Speaker 1: about it so many times. When you look down the
Speaker 1: list of guys, Casey Hayward, Mike a hide uh and
Speaker 1: if you look at the defensive of the back end,
Speaker 1: you know how h Clinton dis these guys have had
Speaker 1: to play early and often just based on the nature
Speaker 1: of the position and how many guys you need in
Speaker 1: your sub packages. So while you do have Tremon Williams
Speaker 1: and Kevin King and Devon House and the list goes
Speaker 1: on and on of guys who are returning, more often
Speaker 1: than not, these rookies are pressed into action at some point.
Speaker 1: So having that versatility and also that experience in the
Speaker 1: secondary is really going to benefit them in the long run.
Speaker 1: The big question now, though, you know, we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens in the offseason program Packers. You know, they take
Speaker 1: their course with that, but come training camp, that's when
Speaker 1: the competition really starts. Yeah, no doubt A bought it.
Speaker 1: With that, we'll go to a breakback with more on
Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes Hodko. It's in that
Speaker 1: one was a little bit of news over rookie Orientation
Speaker 1: weekend that we certainly need to discuss. Doesn't happen very
Speaker 1: often at this early stage of the off season, but
Speaker 1: the Packer's release punter Justin Vogel essentially for now handing
Speaker 1: the job to fifth round draft pick and rookie j
Speaker 1: k sk an interesting development and that the Packers, I
Speaker 1: think wanted there to be a competition for the job,
Speaker 1: but by all accounts, that sounded like Justin Vogel kind
Speaker 1: of asked for his release, feeling like he'd have a
Speaker 1: better opportunity to compete somewhere else, feeling the Packers would
Speaker 1: be pretty well committed to Scott with the investment they
Speaker 1: made in the draft. Pick Yeah, and Scott, you look
Speaker 1: at his skill set, where he comes from, had a
Speaker 1: record breaking run at Alabama. I said last week on
Speaker 1: the show, I thought I was really excited to see
Speaker 1: the competition for my money. Over the last twenty five years,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Packers have had one quite like it.
Speaker 1: But whatever situation played out, they're gonna run with J. K. Scott.
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. And you look at where he
Speaker 1: comes from and his skill set and what he offers
Speaker 1: in terms of his physical ability. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: made this case in the story I wrote on Saturday. Historically,
Speaker 1: the Packers haven't had a lot of punting competitions. They
Speaker 1: find their guy, they stick with their guy, and that's
Speaker 1: really that they did it. Even in two thousand, I
Speaker 1: want to say, fourteen or fifteen, when they had both
Speaker 1: Tim mass Day and Mandeln Camp, who was also a
Speaker 1: punter at Alabama. Right, they made that decision early in camp.
Speaker 1: There was basically one year with mass d and Peter
Speaker 1: Mortell where they went through the first three weeks of
Speaker 1: training camp before started to narrow things down, and then
Speaker 1: after that they went with Jacob Schum. So when you
Speaker 1: look on paper with what J. K. Scott offers, now
Speaker 1: you need to be able to put paper to reality.
Speaker 1: But he does seem like the kind of guy that
Speaker 1: if you are going to proceed with just one option
Speaker 1: there into the summer, this is a guy that's going
Speaker 1: to be able to handle that opportunity and get the
Speaker 1: extra reps that come along with it. Right. And the
Speaker 1: Packers certainly didn't have to grant Justin Vogel's request to
Speaker 1: be released, but I think the fact that they did
Speaker 1: one it speaks to what they talked about in terms
Speaker 1: of really being fair to him, but also that they
Speaker 1: are comfortable enough with Scott, and I think that comes
Speaker 1: from the fact that he played at Alabama. He's played
Speaker 1: in National championship games, SEC games under the lights. You
Speaker 1: know all of that. You can't you can't play in
Speaker 1: any or I should say, punt in any bigger pressure
Speaker 1: situations than J K. Scott has through his career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the NFL all is not going to be a you know,
Speaker 1: a deer in the headlights kind of thing for Scott.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you play in the SEC, in the
Speaker 1: caliber and importance of games that you know, the Crimson
Speaker 1: Tide play in, uh, the NFL. I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: it's like not comparable, but I mean I think he's
Speaker 1: ready for that moment. The thing that's gonna be interesting though,
Speaker 1: in terms of where he's at and where he needs
Speaker 1: to get to, is that, you know, you don't have
Speaker 1: Mason Crosby here yet, so he's gonna have to work
Speaker 1: with him and obviously the holding responsibilities that go with that.
Speaker 1: He does have. His two long snappers were here the
Speaker 1: last weekend, including you know, Hunter Bradley, who was the
Speaker 1: seventh round pick, So there's a chance to start building
Speaker 1: some report there as well. But as we get through
Speaker 1: this offseason program and getting into training camp, the thing
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be keeping the biggest eye on is trying
Speaker 1: to form that battery with those specialists because Mason Crosby
Speaker 1: has had to go through so many changes here the
Speaker 1: last three four years, really now between the long snappers
Speaker 1: he's worked with, the punters that have held for him,
Speaker 1: they want to get that that cohesiveness down. So while
Speaker 1: Scott has a remarkable record as a punter, and and
Speaker 1: you know, the lights are not going to be too
Speaker 1: bright from in that regard, there is more components to
Speaker 1: this and that's gonna be something that he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to try developing now in these months to come. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was the holder at Alabama, so it's not
Speaker 1: as though he has to completely learn this with the
Speaker 1: with the duty being thrust upon him. But uh, from
Speaker 1: a style standpoint, be interesting to watch him as well
Speaker 1: and something maybe for Packers fans to adjust to. He
Speaker 1: has a essentially a straight two step delivery and his
Speaker 1: plant leg does not come off the ground. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: a little older than you are, West. When I was
Speaker 1: growing up, there was a punter from the University of
Speaker 1: Iowa named Reggie Roby, and he spent a good portion
Speaker 1: of his career I believe it was with the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins in the NFL. He was one of the first
Speaker 1: punters like that anybody had seen in the NFL whose
Speaker 1: plant leg did not come off the ground when he kicked.
Speaker 1: It was a really big deal at the time that
Speaker 1: he was so successful and yet he didn't have you
Speaker 1: know that that you know, that full leg swing where
Speaker 1: where the whole body comes up off the ground. J K. Scott.
Speaker 1: You look at him. We talked about him when we
Speaker 1: kind of saw him in person for the first time.
Speaker 1: He's not only tall at six ft five, he's got
Speaker 1: long legs. I mean the swing of his leg I
Speaker 1: can only imagine the power that it generates. And it
Speaker 1: makes sense from the standpoint that with that long a
Speaker 1: lever so to speak, kicking the ball, that he can
Speaker 1: generate enough leverage and enough power without having to leave
Speaker 1: the ground. It's a style that works for him and
Speaker 1: he's sticking with it. Yeah, and if he wanted to,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this right now, he would have been
Speaker 1: a heck of a high jumper. You can just see
Speaker 1: he's got the perfect building. It's different. You just you
Speaker 1: just can't be six six and be a really good
Speaker 1: high jumper. But you can see that he's the son
Speaker 1: of a guy that that did it at a high
Speaker 1: level in the Big Tenant at Wisconsin. Because with those
Speaker 1: long legs, his calves are just so strong. I mean
Speaker 1: you get those calves that almost look like thighs, and
Speaker 1: now you know you've got something to work with their
Speaker 1: the people who might not know at home, though, Mike,
Speaker 1: what is the advantage to not leaving the ground on
Speaker 1: that on the punt, because I know that's a big
Speaker 1: thing we talked about this past week. But where does
Speaker 1: that advantage live for for a punter and being able
Speaker 1: to just you know, have that all in one fluid motion.
Speaker 1: I think it comes in with consistency, that just everything
Speaker 1: about their everything about their approach, their delivery, can be
Speaker 1: more consistent because in a sense, you're removing one of
Speaker 1: the moving parts of the of the process. And and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you look at Scott's numbers throughout his college career,
Speaker 1: he has been pretty darn consistent and in just the
Speaker 1: continual growth that he made at Alabama, I mean, he
Speaker 1: was pretty much a finished product in terms of the
Speaker 1: collegiate sense by the time he left Tuscaloosa. Alright, with that,
Speaker 1: we're going to go to another break back with more
Speaker 1: on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford here, West Hodku, It's all the way over there.
Speaker 1: All right West. The Packers drafted three wide receivers as well,
Speaker 1: and one whose story Um, I guess you'd say going
Speaker 1: back to high school particularly interesting and you addressed it
Speaker 1: in a nice piece on our website. Marquez Felda's scantling
Speaker 1: from the University of South Florida. As a high schooler,
Speaker 1: he was not only teammates with Shatt Griffin, the one
Speaker 1: armed linebacker from Central Florida who was drafted by the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, but they ran a was it state championship
Speaker 1: really on a state championship team? Yeah? They yeah in
Speaker 1: in uh in a sprint, right, yeah, sprint relay for
Speaker 1: undered me to relay. Really interesting thing. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: high school. I mean these two have known each other.
Speaker 1: He's known Saquil and Sachem Griffin, Shakeem Griffin going all
Speaker 1: the way back to basic when they were in pre
Speaker 1: k uh in and you know, competed on the same
Speaker 1: little league teams and football teams and then ran on
Speaker 1: the state championship track team for Lakewood High School in
Speaker 1: in Florida. And if you know anything about that school,
Speaker 1: they've just turned out NFL player after NFL player. And
Speaker 1: it was interesting talking to him about act because it's
Speaker 1: the thing about it is he's known him for so long.
Speaker 1: He knew him when he still had both of his hands,
Speaker 1: and in one of the questions was asked to him like,
Speaker 1: just how traumatic was that for him at four years
Speaker 1: old having that amputated if you know his story with
Speaker 1: the with the the disorder that he had, I mean
Speaker 1: basically was trying to, you know, do it himself because
Speaker 1: just how much pain he had. And then the parents
Speaker 1: finally agreed to get it amputated and he said no,
Speaker 1: but you know, it did not stop him at all, mentally, physically, anything.
Speaker 1: And he credits that to a family that basically told
Speaker 1: him that you're no different than anybody else. You don't
Speaker 1: ask for sympathy, you don't ask for any handouts. You
Speaker 1: just go and be the player that you are, be
Speaker 1: the student, be the individual that you are. And you know,
Speaker 1: he even said, when this novelty of it nationally, everybody
Speaker 1: you know the stories, which was amazing, But he's sort
Speaker 1: of numb to it because he's just known him overcoming
Speaker 1: those odds for so long, silencing the doubters and critics
Speaker 1: for so long, um and to be able to get
Speaker 1: drafted with him in the same round on the same day.
Speaker 1: A very special moment for him and really the whole
Speaker 1: community of St. Petersburg. Yeah, and as much as Velda's
Speaker 1: Scantling said, he's numb to it because it sort of
Speaker 1: just became part of obviously their friendship and and you know,
Speaker 1: being teammates and whatnot, he's still inspired by it. When
Speaker 1: when you when you grow up with that all the
Speaker 1: way along and you i mean you talk about you know,
Speaker 1: I mean all those you know whatever, the dog days
Speaker 1: of high school when it's just like, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't really don't want to go to practice today, or
Speaker 1: you know this, or that you just distracted by other things.
Speaker 1: He's I mean, here's a guy, you know, one of
Speaker 1: his best friends and teammates is absolutely not slowing down
Speaker 1: for anything or anybody with with a significant disability to
Speaker 1: to have to deal with. And that that's something that
Speaker 1: it sounds like to me that that it's inspired Marquez
Speaker 1: all the way along. Yeah, it really has. And he said,
Speaker 1: you have to understand where they come from too. I mean,
Speaker 1: the community that they they're raised in, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not the best. The neighborhood is not the best. They
Speaker 1: grew up about five minutes away from each other in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, their houses, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: where you really rely on the people around you to
Speaker 1: kind of get through those circumstances. And you know, he said,
Speaker 1: I mean you can go back and look too. I mean,
Speaker 1: the the numbers that Shack put up in track and
Speaker 1: field and football and baseball. I mean, it's remarkable what
Speaker 1: he accomplished in and of itself, regardless of you know,
Speaker 1: the situation he was put in. But to be able
Speaker 1: to get through that to go to UCF and and
Speaker 1: as a lot of people said, it was mostly in
Speaker 1: in some terms, schools are recruiting him because they wanted
Speaker 1: to get his brother, his twin brother, Shaquil. So as
Speaker 1: him being sort of the I don't want to say
Speaker 1: the the the add on, I mean, he's every bit
Speaker 1: as much a part of this as as his brother was.
Speaker 1: And for them, and they were all incredibly fast, you know,
Speaker 1: he said, uh, you know, he ran the final leg
Speaker 1: of their relay team, but he took the baton pass
Speaker 1: from Shack, his brother usually being the second person. And
Speaker 1: if you know anything about those foreign and relays, there's
Speaker 1: so much that goes into that timing and technique that
Speaker 1: you you don't have. You don't want to lose speed,
Speaker 1: you don't want to lose the baton, and they had
Speaker 1: such a fluid system down, and I think it says
Speaker 1: a lot about all three of them now that they've
Speaker 1: been able to to get to this level. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: and I we both covered a lot of high school
Speaker 1: which included covering high school track and the state track
Speaker 1: meeting stuff. And I'll admit I was not necessarily a
Speaker 1: big fan of high school track. But if there's one
Speaker 1: thing that I really enjoyed watching at the state track meet,
Speaker 1: it was that four by one to relay because of
Speaker 1: the baton pass, and you'd you'd see the teams that
Speaker 1: really had had their timing and their system down and
Speaker 1: just how smooth everything could be, you know, basically one
Speaker 1: full lap around the track with the four guys, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I saw guys like you know, Michael Bennett
Speaker 1: and b J. Tucker, these you know, stars, eventual stars
Speaker 1: for Wisconsin Badgers who made their way into the NFL.
Speaker 1: These guys were running that relay in lacrosse at the
Speaker 1: Wisconsin State track Meet. It's always fun to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is It's like if you
Speaker 1: think about Shack doing it with only having one arm.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's has to be you have to be
Speaker 1: so far up on your technique because there is no
Speaker 1: room for error. You can't miss that pass because then
Speaker 1: you're gonna be disqualified. So just it is, it's a
Speaker 1: really we need story now for Velde Scantling being in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. He knows there's a long way to go yet,
Speaker 1: but having that background is something that's really pushing him
Speaker 1: now that he's in Green Bay. Yeah, definitely. With that,
Speaker 1: we're going to go to a break back with more
Speaker 1: and Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside West hod Kowitz West. Two other receivers
Speaker 1: the Packers drafted we certainly should talk about here as well,
Speaker 1: Jamon Moore from Missouri, an Equinymius st. Brown from Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: and people wondering with Valdi Scantling there in the middle
Speaker 1: as the as the fifth round pick of the three
Speaker 1: one and the fourth one and the fifth one the
Speaker 1: six what's the difference between the three They all you know,
Speaker 1: similar height, they're all that six three to six five range.
Speaker 1: The thing that stood out to me when I saw
Speaker 1: them all in the practice field for the first time,
Speaker 1: is um really just how much thicker I think in
Speaker 1: the upper body just the body build in general that
Speaker 1: Jamon more is. I could see from a physical standpoint
Speaker 1: just looking at him why he was the fourth round
Speaker 1: pick and the other guys were drafted a little bit later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he has a full I think the word
Speaker 1: I use when we were watching practices is he's so
Speaker 1: fully developed and and and it's really balanced throughout his body. Uh.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you and take this for what
Speaker 1: it's worth to me, he was sort of that Friday
Speaker 1: rookie camp m v p uh in my estimation, just
Speaker 1: because he made a lot of nice plays. Uh. The
Speaker 1: one that stands out to me the most was that
Speaker 1: over the top. It was a one on one route,
Speaker 1: So do you always take that with a grain of salt,
Speaker 1: But he showed, I mean, one of the big things,
Speaker 1: even though he ran that four six at the combine,
Speaker 1: is his explosiveness off the line of scrimmage. His first
Speaker 1: two steps are really quick, and also how he finishes
Speaker 1: off roads. And he said it's a sneaky, you know,
Speaker 1: deceptive move that he has at the end to really
Speaker 1: gain that extra separation on you know, go routes and
Speaker 1: stuff down the field, and he did that against JayR
Speaker 1: L Alexander. The pass ended up being a little overthrown,
Speaker 1: but otherwise he was right there. He had the separation
Speaker 1: needed to pull it in. And that's what stands out
Speaker 1: to me the most with him specifically, is just with
Speaker 1: looking at his body type. He's a big physical receiver,
Speaker 1: but also he still has an explosiveness down the field
Speaker 1: to get separation. Yeah, and people are going to be
Speaker 1: watching him closely because the word coming out, you know,
Speaker 1: through the draft. And perhaps one of the reasons he
Speaker 1: lasted till the fourth round was because of the drops.
Speaker 1: There were some lapses in concentration and whatnot. And I
Speaker 1: tell you what you look at, and again this is
Speaker 1: just in first first impression, but you look at his
Speaker 1: physical build. You mentioned kind of the the burst that
Speaker 1: he could show even after he caught the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to get the yards after the catch. If he
Speaker 1: works on that concentration part and and makes catches more consistently,
Speaker 1: we certainly didn't see him drop any like right in
Speaker 1: front of us or anything. But if he makes catches
Speaker 1: more consistently. I mean, this guy back to back thousand
Speaker 1: yards seasons in the SEC and what kind of numbers
Speaker 1: would he have put up if he hadn't had the
Speaker 1: issues with the drops. That's what you have to start
Speaker 1: to think about. And uh, you know with certainly with
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers thrown in the ball, that ball is gonna
Speaker 1: be on target way more often than not. Absolutely needed
Speaker 1: to catch it. And he said, you know, he did
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to work on his focus in concentration.
Speaker 1: I think one of them was he actually wore gardening
Speaker 1: gloves during some of his drills to be able to
Speaker 1: just not have the advantage of you know, having your
Speaker 1: regular sticky glove receiver gloves something he's really using. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great competition, you know, Valdez Scantling
Speaker 1: said it to Those three guys are really gonna be
Speaker 1: pushing each other throughout the whole offseason. Now. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: st Brown from Notre Dame six ft five, you know,
Speaker 1: not an easy guy to match up against, doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: have the blazing speed you know this and that, but
Speaker 1: but a guy that you know, the packers are really
Speaker 1: curious to see what happens like the term was used
Speaker 1: body beautiful. I mean he looks like an NFL receiver
Speaker 1: and have a chance to prove it this summer. Alright,
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