1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: January twenty six marked the one year anniversary of the 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: tragic passing of Kobe Bryant, a day where we all 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: stop to celebrate greatness and remember a legend. Kobe will 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: soon be remembered forever at the Basketball Hall of Fame 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: in Springfield, Massachusetts, as he is said to be enshrined 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: as a first ballot Hall of Famer later this year. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: January twenty six was also supposed to be a day 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: where we celebrated greatness in baseball. Tuesday was the culmination 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame ballot season with the announcement of 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Hall of Fame class set to 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: take place. However, baseball once again couldn't get out of 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: its own way and left itself with an embarrassing headline. 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: There will be no players inducted into the Baseball Hall 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: of Fame in twenty twenty one. This is only the 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: fourth time this has happened under the format installed in 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, but it is the second time in 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the last ten years. To me, it exposes a flawed 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: system that gives control to self important people who want 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: to feel power over players that they have issues with. 20 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: For a number of reasons. Whether it's the fourteen blank 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: ballots that were submitted or the five minute long ballot 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: reveal videos, its clear voters feel their apinions are more 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: important than the honor they have been given the power 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: to bestow, so much so that the writers decided to 25 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: pack it in and take the year off because their 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is so sacred that on a ballot 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: with twenty five tremendous players, they apparently couldn't find one 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: worthy of election. So the weight goes on for Barry 29 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Bonds and Roger Clemens, the greatest player and arguably the 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: greatest pitcher the game has ever seen. We wait to 31 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: see in Bonds and Clemens's tenth and final year of 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: eligibility whether the gatekeepers let them in or if the 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: writer's inconsistency and self importance keeps two of the greatest 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: players to ever play the game from entering the Hall. 35 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: In this episode, we'll be looking at what this year's 36 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: results mean for Bonds and Clemens's chances on their final try, 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: as well as what the rest of the results mean 38 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: for the future of all the candidates. 39 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: This is Big Hall Talk. 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Hall Talk, everybody. I'm Ethan Badowski, and 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't care how many players make the Hall of 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Fame so long as the right ones too. Except this year. Yeah, 43 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: I care a lot this year about what happened with 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and how many players got in, 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: because nobody got in, and baseball just kind of continues 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: to shoot themselves in the foot with this Hall of 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: Fame class of zero. But let's kind of like break 48 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: it down, take a closer look at what went wrong, 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the results. I kind 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: of saw this coming in a way before you know, 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: ballot season, because you could just kind of see based 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: on the way things shook out last year, it was 53 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: going to be a huge mountain of climb for Bonds 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: and Clemens, which you thought maybe on a weaker ballot 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: they could sneak in. And Shilling was the most likely. 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: He had seventy percent of the vote last year, but 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: he still comes up sixteen votes away, and we'll talk 58 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: about exactly what went wrong there. So Shilling was the 59 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: highest vote getter. He was the highest vote getter last 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: year behind Jeter and Larry Walker who got in, So 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: it looked like this was his year. But he, like 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I said, he comes up sixteen votes away. And what 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: happened here is this is one of those character issue 64 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: cases where Kurt Schilling has said a lot of things 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: in the past that I strongly, strongly disagree with, and 66 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: this year it kind of went to a new level. 67 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: He has had some really radical ideas that got him 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: fired at ESPN, just some crazy ways of thinking. I 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: believe he retweeted something about hanging journalists back in the day, 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: and then recently with the insurrection at the Capitol, he 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: spoke out in support of the insurrection at the Capitol, 72 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and that was really kind of final straw. I think 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: for a lot of people. It was actually after balloting 74 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: ballots were due, and one article that I read from 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: Greg Cody of the Miami Herald said that he wished 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: he tried to get his vote back, as I'm sure 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people did after what Shilling said about 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: the insurrection at the United States Capitol. So there's a 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: lot here with Shilling. It's a loaded case what we're 80 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: dealing with here, And and I've always kind of said 81 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: that it's not the voter's place to be the character police. 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: It's not for them to judge what kind of people 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: the you know, these players are. It's just to judge 84 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: how good they were at baseball and whether they're baseball 85 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: merits that were worthy of them being in the Hall 86 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: of Fame. And this isn't about Chilling, you know, being 87 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: a vocal supporter of Donald Trump. I you know, don't. 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not my favorite thing, but I don't 89 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: have a you know, a problem with that in terms 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: of him getting into the Hall of Fame. Mariano Rivera 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: was playing baseball without masks during a pandemic with Donald 92 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: Trump on baseball opening Day. To me, it's not the 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: idea that he's with Trump, you know, he supports Trump. 94 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: It's what he said. And this was really kind of 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: a final straw for me. And it really, you know, 96 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I don't have an official ballot, but when the ballot 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: comes out next year, I'll really have to think about 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: whether on my hypothetical ballot, Chilling would be on it. 99 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: So when the results came out, Shilling, obviously, you know, 100 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: plays this kind of victim martyr card where he feels 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: that he's been wronged in some way, and he came 102 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: out and asked to not be included on the ballot 103 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: next season. In a statement. I'll just read part of 104 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: this statement that he wrote. He said he will not 105 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: be participate. I will not be participating in the final 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: year of voting. I'm requesting to be removed from the ballot. 107 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: I'll defer to the Veterans Committee and men whose opinions 108 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: actually matter and who are in a position to actually 109 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: judge a player. Which is just kind of pointing out 110 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: the whole problem here that he thinks his views align 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: more with the guys on the Veterans Committee, so he 112 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: knows they'll give him a better chance to get in, 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: which is kind of ridiculous, and he's just kind of 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: playing this liberal quote unquote liberal media card here that 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: I think it's totally unfair to the voters. And then 116 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: the rest of his statement was just where it kind 117 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: of really went off the rails. He said, quote, I've 118 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: played with wife beaters, adulterers, assaulters, drug addicts, and alcoholics. 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: I've never hit a woman, driven drunk, done drugs, peds, 120 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: or otherwise assaulted anyone or committed any sort of crime. 121 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: But I'm now somehow in a conversation with two men 122 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: who cheated, and instead of being accountable, they choose chose 123 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: to destroy others' lives to protect their lie I will 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: always have one thing. They will forever chase a legacy. 125 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: So Shilling basically admitted that he thinks that taking steroids 126 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: is worse than supporting a terrorist attack on the United 127 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: States Capitol, which agreed to disagree. If you see that 128 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: differently than I do, or if you see the events 129 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: of January sixth differently than I do, but that's basically 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: what Schilling is telling you here, and to me, that's 131 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: what has Shilling in this position in the first place, 132 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: is that he's been very unforgiving and very hostile about 133 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: this is the way I think, and you're not going 134 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: to change that. And I think it's what's getting him 135 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: in trouble, and I think it's what's going to end 136 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: up keeping him out of the Hall of Fame. He 137 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: only got one point one percent of the vote, more 138 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: of the vote from last year when people thought he 139 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: would get in this year. So I really think shillings 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble here, and I don't think 141 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: that what he's done here with asking to be taken 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: off the ballot and started picking a fight with the 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: BBWA is gonna get him any help. The BBWA did 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: already release a statement where they said, you know, they 145 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: requested for the Hall of Fame to not submit to 146 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: Shillings requests. They want him to stay on the ballot, 147 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: and I think he will, and I think he'll be 148 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: hurt by his actions as he's been in the past. 149 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: So to me, I don't think Schilling gets in. I 150 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, I thought he was gonna maybe get in 151 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: this year. I thought this was he had the best 152 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: chance for sure. But I'm not sure he gets in 153 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: next year. And and I think that his he really 154 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: kind of did it to himself, and he really kind 155 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: of has nobody to blame except him. And and like 156 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: I said, you can agree to disagree with me on 157 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: this one. And I hate, you know, bringing politics into this, 158 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: but it's impossible to escape because politics and sports have 159 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: become overlapped so much in our society. So to me, 160 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: Shilling maybe, but I don't see it happening next year. 161 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: I think that he has kind of dug his own 162 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: grave here and he's gonna have to sleep in it. 163 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: And so you know, we'll have to see it. Will 164 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: certainly be fascinating to see what happens in this coming 165 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: year with him moving on to the next guys up 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: on the ballot, and these are obviously the two big names, 167 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: Bonds and Clemens. This was also their ninth years on 168 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: the ballot. Barry Bonds is the greatest player to ever 169 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: play the game. Clemens is arguably the greatest pitcher to 170 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: ever grab a ball. And to me, there's no Hall 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: of Fame without either of those guys. You know, if 172 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: they if they're kept out, I think the integrity of 173 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing kind of goes away. But you know, 174 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. Uh, you know, it really is kind of 175 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: to me, I understand that why you know these people, 176 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, plenty of these writers have said, no ped guys, 177 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: that's it, that's it, you know, the end of it, 178 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: and and ped guys are going to struggle no matter what. 179 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: But Pudge was linked to peds and he's in the 180 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and I'm pretty sure he was the 181 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: first ballad Hall of Famer. So that's where I kind 182 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: of find these inconsistencies. And it'll be interesting with a 183 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Rod who's kind of restored his public image after his 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: mission to taking peds. He's on the ballot next year, 185 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: and so it'll be very interesting to see how they 186 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: do going up against each other. A Rod's not going 187 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: to get in first ballot. I highly doubt it because 188 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: of his connection to peds. But Bons and Clemens, neither 189 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: of them ever actually failed the test. There's strong evidence 190 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: and we all believe it, but neither of them have 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: actually failed the test. And there are guys that have 192 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: failed tests in the Hall of Fame. But let's take 193 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: a results look at their results in this year. So 194 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: Bond's got sixty one point eight percent. Clemens got sixty 195 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: one point six percent of the vote. So I think 196 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Bond's actually got exactly one more vote than Clemens. Bonds 197 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: was up one point one percent from last year, Clemens 198 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: was up point six percent. The problem, they're not really 199 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: gaining a lot of voters. The people that vote for 200 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: them vote for them, and the people that don't aren't 201 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: doing it. Bonds gained netted two votes on the public 202 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: ballot ballot and Clemens netted one vote on the public ballot, 203 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: so it's hard to really tell. You know, we don't 204 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: know a lot about the private vote unless they're revealed afterwards, 205 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: so it's hard to know. You know where the votes 206 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: were gained, but not a lot of help, and we 207 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: thought that maybe in this ninth year, on a week ballot, 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: that they would get some help. But they still sit 209 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: fifteen percent, you know whatever, thirteen percent shy of the vote. Yeah, 210 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm bad at math. Thirteen percent shy of election. And 211 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: we've seen jumps like this before. It's not an unprecedented jump. 212 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: But they are different than Larry Walker, who was simply 213 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: held out because he played at a hitter friendly ballpark, 214 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: which I mean was ridiculous. But it's it's different because 215 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: there weren't, you know, never Coors guys. There are never steroids, 216 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: guys that will never vote for guys linked to steroids, 217 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: and that's just how it is. Bonds and Lemons have 218 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: some of the strongest links. But again, there are steroid 219 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: guys in the Hall of Fame. Now will they be 220 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: able to make this jump, that's a different question. I'm 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: not really sure, but I kind of think that there's 222 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: this idea that among voters that somehow holding them out 223 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: until the tenth year is a punishment, and they're gonna say, 224 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you wait. I think it's dumb. I 225 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: don't like that concept. I think if you're gonna vote 226 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: for a guy, I vote for them when it's the 227 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: one you deem it necessary to me. It's part of 228 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: that feeling of self importance, wanting to feel like they 229 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: have control where they can keep you out and you're 230 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with it, but we'll let you 231 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: in eventually. And if you're just gonna let them in eventually, 232 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: then just let them in right away. Because both of 233 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: these guys are first ballot quality Hall of Famers, so 234 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: we'll see. I personally am hopeful. I want both of 235 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: these guys to get in, especially Bonds, you know, being 236 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: a giant legend. I would love to you know, both 237 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: of these guys deserve to be in, and I want 238 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: the integrity of the Hall of Fame to be upheld. 239 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: And in order for that to happen, in my mind, 240 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I think you need these two guys. So there's some 241 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: trouble at the top right now. It won't be easy 242 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: for either of these you know, three guys to get in. 243 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna need some help. But I'm hopeful on 244 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: Bonds and Clements. Let's move down the ballot. Now, there 245 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of so that was some bad that happened. 246 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good that happened on the ballot 247 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: as well this year. And let's talk about some guys 248 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: that had some really really good years on the ballot, 249 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, some big risers. The first one is Scott Roland, 250 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: a guy whose case I love. I personally believe that 251 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: on paper, Roland could have the third best case behind 252 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: Bonds and Clements from a sheer baseball standpoint sixty five 253 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: war type guy, eight gold gloves, one more goal glove 254 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: than Larry Walker, as many as Bonds are, one more 255 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: than Bonds, just an absolutely outstanding player. He did great 256 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: this year, and he's been doing really good the last 257 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: two years, and he is on a good track to 258 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: get in. So he was the fourth highest vote getterer 259 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: this year. He got fifty two point nine percent of 260 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: the vote, up seventeen point six percent from last season. 261 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: If you look at his totals, he's increased every year. 262 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: His first year he had ten point two percent. He 263 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: went up seven percent to seventeen point two in his 264 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: second year, then he took a big leap from seventeen 265 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: point two to thirty five point three, and then again 266 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: the seventeen point leap that he took this year. So 267 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: if you average up the jumps that he's had in 268 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: his four years on the ballot. He's pacing extremely well. 269 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: And if he averages this same kind of jump, I 270 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: don't have the number in front of me. I didn't 271 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: write it down, but I did the math, and if 272 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: he paces like he's pacing right now, two to three 273 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: years from now will be really interesting for Scott Rowland 274 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: in terms of we could be looking at him getting in. 275 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: And I think that at this rate, with more years 276 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: on the ballot, he's in really really good position. I 277 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: think Scott Roland will be a Hall of Famer, which 278 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: is very good because he deserves to be the next one. 279 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: Todd Helton, this is another big one. This Helton is 280 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: another Coors guy like Larry Walker was. His case isn't 281 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: as strong as Larry's, but his case will benefit a 282 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: lot from the fact that Larry got in and kind 283 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: of broke that ceiling of guys that played at Coors 284 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: getting in. Helton played at Coors more than Larry did. 285 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: He played his entire career there and also his splits 286 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: were a little more egregious than Larry's was. But Todd 287 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Helton is a Hall of Famer at the end of 288 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: the day. One of the greatest first basemen of his generation. 289 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: Just a model of consistency, and he is looking very 290 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: very good in his third year. He's actually ahead of 291 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: where Roland was in his third season. He's got forty 292 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: four point nine percent of the vote this year. He 293 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: was up fifteen point seven percent from last year, and 294 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: he was actually the highest vote. He netted the most 295 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: votes on the public ballot ballot. I have thirty four 296 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: heat written here, but I think it was actually thirty five. 297 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: I think I saw on the Trackers Twitter tonight that 298 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: it's actually thirty five. That's the most of any player. 299 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: He had at nearly a thirteen point jump from year 300 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: one to year two, so he's jumping somewhere between thirteen 301 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: and fifteen percent. He will also be inducted in two 302 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: to three seasons. Him and Brolin could be on a 303 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: pace to get in together if they continue at this 304 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: same pace. And I think again, seven years on the 305 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: ballot left looking very very good for Todd Hay For 306 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: thh Todd Hilton, I think he is a Hall of Famer. 307 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Let's look at next at Billy Wagner. We're getting more 308 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: deeper into the ballot, but this was a big riser, 309 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: and this is a guy that should be a big 310 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: riser because he should be a Hall of Famer. He 311 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: is to me, and I think to a lot of people, 312 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: probably the greatest left handed reliever of all time. And 313 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: to me that thing, you know, that's blatant. If you're 314 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: the best land left handed reliever ever, then why are 315 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: you not in the Hall of Fame already? There should 316 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: be a place for relievers. We talked about this, I 317 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: believe all in the last episode. But anyway, I think 318 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: Billy Wagner should be in the Hall of Fame. And 319 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: his this year helped him a lot. This this would 320 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be close. We'll see, but I'll 321 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: explain that in a second. So this year he got 322 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: forty six point four percent of the vote. He's up 323 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: fourteen point seven percent from last year, a very nice jump, 324 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: the third highest jump on the ballot, Yes, the third 325 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: highest jump on the ballot. He needed twenty nine votes 326 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: on the public ballots ballots. That's really good. And he 327 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: was also a darling among first time voters. First time 328 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: voters were a very big fan of Billy Wagner. So 329 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: let's look at his year over year totals, he hovered 330 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: around this ten point five number. In his first three years, 331 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: he went ten point five, ten point two, ten point five, 332 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: So he was just kind of milling around in the ocean, 333 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: just kind of staying afloat. And then year four he 334 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: had a six point jump, and then from year four 335 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: to year five he had a fifteen point jump, and 336 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: that was when it really all happened for Wagner, and 337 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: that is what has him on a very good pace. 338 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: And that pace right now is nine percent increase per year. 339 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: So if he continues at this nine percent increase per year, 340 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: which actually right now it's above nine. You know, he 341 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: went up fifteen points and then he went up fourteen again, 342 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: almost fifteen points this year, that would take him about 343 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: three years to get in. And so he's gonna kind 344 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: of cut it close because maybe one year he doesn't 345 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: get that big increase. You know, there's no guarantee that 346 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna be continue to increase fifteen percent every year. 347 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: But right now, if he averages that nine that he's 348 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: averaged over his time on the ballot, he would sneak 349 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: in in his ninth season or his ninth year on 350 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: the ballot. So he would just squeak by. This one 351 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: is gonna be really close because you don't know how 352 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: it happens, you know, you don't know whether he's gonna 353 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: continue to get these big, you know, double digit jumps. 354 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting for Wagner. But again, I 355 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: think that a lot of first time voters are high 356 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: on Billy Wagner. I think a lot of people are 357 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: starting to wake up to the fact that Billy Wagner 358 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. And he's got 359 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: some time. It's looking okay. He's gonna need to keep 360 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: doing very well. But if he gets that nine percent, 361 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: that's a number to look for with Wagner is nine 362 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: percent increase every year. Moving on to the next guy, 363 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: who I think is another guy who has one of 364 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: the strongest on the ballot, and that is Andrew Jones. 365 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: Andrew is in his fourth year on the ballot this year, 366 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: and he had a very nice year one again, another 367 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: big riser on the ballot. So he got thirty three 368 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: point nine percent of the vote this year. It was 369 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: up fourteen and a half percent from last year. His 370 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: first two years were seven point three and seven point 371 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: five percent. Then he got a twelve point jump from 372 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: year two to year three, and then a fourteen point 373 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: jump this year, so he's had two big jumps in 374 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: a row. And he got votes from more than half 375 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: of the first time voters in the public section. So again, 376 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: this is another guy that's a darling among first time voters. 377 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: As voters get younger and they start valuing analytics and 378 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: other things, more, Jones is becoming more and more popular. 379 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: And one thing that I want to refer people to 380 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: is there's an account on Twitter that I love, and 381 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't know who the guy is. I wish I 382 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: could shout him out, but he runs a great Twitter 383 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: account where it's it's dedicated to the fact that Andrew 384 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Jones is a Hall of Famer, and it is because 385 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: he's a Hall of I believe that he is a 386 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. So he has so far, you know 387 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: the results in their bio, it has the results and 388 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: it has goals for each year. He hopes that in 389 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, which I believe would be the ninth year, 390 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: maybe he hopes that by then Andrew would be inducted. 391 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: His first year on the ballot was twenty eighteen, so 392 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: maybe that would be his ten and final season. But anyway, 393 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: right now, the goal for twenty twenty one for him 394 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: was thirty three percent, and the goal next year was 395 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: thirty five percent. Or was sorry, the goal for this 396 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: year was thirty percent and the goal for next year 397 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: is thirty five percent. Andrew received thirty three percent this year, 398 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: so he's ahead of pace this year and he's almost 399 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: ahead of pace for next season in terms of the 400 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: goal that this particular guy, who has done a lot 401 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: of research from following the account, has done a ton 402 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: of research about the Hall of Fame has in mind 403 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: in terms of the targets that he wants to be at. 404 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: So it's looking really good for Jones. I did the math. 405 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: He's averaging since his first big boost. He's averaging a 406 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: thirteen point two percent boost again each year, which would 407 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: take three years at the current pace, so he would 408 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: get in on his seventh year on the ballot. It'll 409 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: probably slow down at some point there. He'll hit a 410 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: limit of where you know, these you know, all the 411 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: guys that are voting for him or will vote for 412 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: him kind of you know, have already been voting him 413 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: for him for a few years. So I think that 414 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: will slow down a little bit. I don't think it'll 415 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: take three years for Andrew, but he's on a good 416 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: pace there. There's a good number that he's been getting 417 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: the last few years. And if he can continue to 418 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: work above these target numbers, you know it that that 419 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: at in the apt for everybody that would like to 420 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: follow is at hof Jones to see the targets. If 421 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: he keeps working above these targets, Andrew is cruising home 422 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: and I think and I hope that he'll end up 423 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: in Cooperstown. So those are the big risers. But let's 424 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: take a look at some of the guys that had 425 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: some trouble this year on the ballot and could be 426 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: in trouble in the future. The biggest one was omar 427 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: Vis SkELL. He is boy is he a controversial case 428 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: just among baseball fans from a baseball perspective, but it 429 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: got even more complicated this year when some domestic violence 430 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: allegations came out against omar Vis Skel. And obviously, for 431 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people, this is one of those things 432 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: like shilling, where you draw the line and you say 433 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: this guy is not getting in. I already didn't believe 434 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: Viskell was a Hall of Famer. But if I did, 435 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: it would certainly be that's certainly something that needs evaluating. 436 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: So the details are unfolding and it could and and 437 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: it hurt his case. This year he was the only 438 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: player on the ballot that lost votes. He was down 439 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: three and a half percent from last year. He got 440 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: forty nine point one percent of the vote. This year, 441 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: he was looking great, he was looking like he could 442 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: get in in the next few years. But oh, it's tough. 443 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: Now this is in, this domestic violence case is certainly 444 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: going to make it more interesting. He actually appeared on 445 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the private ballots, which was second only 446 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: to Kurt Chilling. So if that doesn't show you the 447 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: kind of discrepancy between voters that vote publicly and voters 448 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: that vote privately, I don't know what will. But the 449 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: Skel's in some trouble and he it's gonna be really 450 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: tough for him right now. This may have been a 451 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: significant step back for him, and surely if more details 452 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: emerged that are damning for him, it's not gonna help 453 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: him at all. And it could completely erase any chance 454 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: he has and should of getting into the Hall of Fame. 455 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: So this is gonna be one to keep an eye on. Obviously, 456 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, the details of the story are something to 457 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. And and I, like I said, 458 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: he was on a great pace. It looked like he 459 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: was certainly gonna get there within a few years. But 460 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: this is a significant step back and it should be 461 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: the next one. Gary Sheffield, he's in a seventh his 462 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: seventh year on the ballot. This is a Marlins guy. 463 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: He could be the best chance the Marlins have of 464 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: somebody wearing a Marlins hat for a long long time 465 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. But he's in a bit 466 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: of trouble. He got forty point six percent of the 467 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: vote this year. It was up ten percent from last year. 468 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: From year five to year six, so before the year 469 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: before this one he got a sixteen point nine percent jump. 470 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: That's massive. That's one of you know, the bigger ones 471 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: that you will see. He's averaging a thirteen in zero 472 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: point five percent jump over the last two seasons. So 473 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: if he continues at that kind of pace where he's 474 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: jumping double digits every year, he would get in on 475 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: the final ballot. But it's gonna be close because ballots 476 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: could become crowded soon. There's a lot of good players 477 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: that have to be added to the ballot in the 478 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: next few years, and so it could be tough. But 479 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: the question really comes down to will crowded ballots hurt Sheffield. 480 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Will he slow down a built a bit or will 481 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: he continue to take these big jumps, And if he does, 482 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: if he's pacing above thirteen and a half for the 483 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: next three years on the ballot, he will get in 484 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: on the final ballot. So I don't really want to 485 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: say that he's in a ton of trouble because it's 486 00:26:53,400 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of on the edge, but it's not looking fantastic 487 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: for Gary right now. He's gonna be really cutting it close, 488 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: which is why I say he's in trouble, because it's 489 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: probably gonna be one that goes down to the final ballot. 490 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: To me, Sheffield Hall of Famer in the next one, 491 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Kent, this is one that really I don't see it. 492 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: He's gonna be going into his ninth year on the 493 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: ballot next year. He only got thirty two percent of 494 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: the vote this year, and it was only a five 495 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: percent increase from from last year. He would need to 496 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: average a twenty one point three percent jump in the 497 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: next two years. In order to make it. That's a 498 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: Larry Walker like jump, and it might even be more 499 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: significant than what Larry had to do. So Kent's in 500 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. I don't see it, I think. 501 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: To me, I talked about this line, this line between 502 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and the Hall of very Good, 503 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: and to me Kent was just above the Hall of 504 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: very Good. But apparently a lot of people see it 505 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: differently than I do. It would, and so I don't 506 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: see it. With Ken Sammy Sosa brutal one, brutal one, 507 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: ninth year on the ballot, only seventeen percent of the vote, 508 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: just a three point jump from last year. There's no 509 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: there's really just no chance. It would take a miracle. 510 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: It's very very bleak for swinging Sammy. It would need 511 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: fifty a fifty eight increase if I'm doing that math right. 512 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: You know that with Sammy he was a great player, 513 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: but he and he had a great peak, one of 514 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: the best peaks that we've seen. But it was a 515 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: little egregious in terms of the fact that he was 516 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: His supposed steroid boost is a little egregious in terms 517 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: of the fact that he was pretty average until those years. 518 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: Where he was, you know, in the home run race 519 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: with Maguire, and he had an incredible, incredible peak around 520 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, ninety eight to like O two. I believe 521 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: for some people that home run race with Maguire is 522 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: iconic enough to the point where he should get in. 523 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: But it doesn't look like it's going to be Sammy probably. 524 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's a very very very small chance, if any, 525 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: that he gets in next year. I don't see it happening, 526 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: And sadly, Sammy Sosa probably won't end up a Hall 527 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: of Famer. Manny Ramirez is in his fifth year on 528 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: the ballot. This year, he got just twenty eight point 529 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: two percent of the vote. He did he had no 530 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: change from last year, so Viscale was the only guy 531 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: that dropped and Manny is the only guy that did 532 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: any worse than him because he didn't have any change. 533 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: He's been hovering around this mark for a few years now, 534 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: somewhere between twenty two, twenty two and twenty eight percent. 535 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: So he's yet to receive any big boosts. And he's 536 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: got four years on the ballot left, five years on 537 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: the ballot left, so you know, he's tested positive for 538 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: peach D's twice. He's yet to receive a major boost. 539 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't see it coming. It might. I think, man 540 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer. You know, I would vote 541 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: for him, but you know, he's got sixty eight war 542 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: or something. But it's probably it's looking very very It's 543 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: it's a tall hill to cline for Manny right now. 544 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: Andy Pettitt, a guy that I thought maybe could really 545 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: get have a good year thirteen percent, nearly fourteen percent 546 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: of the vote this year, up only two and a 547 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: half percent from last year. He's increased about two percent 548 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: each year, so he's been on the This is his 549 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: third year on the ballot, so he's gonna need to 550 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: start picking up the pace a little bit. He's kind 551 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: of on this Jones pace or this Wagner pace where 552 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: he was sitting around and Jones was kind of sitting around. 553 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: But he's gonna need some big jumps here in the 554 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: next few years or else. It's a really, really small 555 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: chance for Andy Pettitt. Then one more guy that I 556 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: want to talk about is Bobby Bray. You this was 557 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: just his second year on the ballot. He got eight 558 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: point seven in the vote percent of the vote last 559 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: year or this year, excuse me, up three point two 560 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: percent from last year. It's really too early to tell 561 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: with Bobby Abray. You, this is only his second year 562 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 1: on the ballot. He barely survived. He got five and 563 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: a half percent in year one. Usually that doesn't bode well. 564 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people kind of hope 565 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: that Bobby would take a bigger jump than just three 566 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: percent last this year, especially my boy Donielle who's out there, 567 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: Danielle Everas Monteese, who will be on the pod coming soon, 568 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: probably to talk about Bobby a bray You. So, I 569 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were hoping that he would 570 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: take a bigger jump, and I thought that he might 571 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: take one as well, but only three percent. It's, like 572 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: I said, it's too early to tell. So I'm putting 573 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: him in the in trouble section because he's kind of 574 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: in this in between where he's not a first timer. 575 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: He obviously didn't have a big jump, but it's too 576 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: early to call. Like I'm sounding like MSNBC on election Night, 577 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: it's too early to call right now in terms of 578 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: whether Bobby Abray, who has a really good shot, but 579 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna need some help, you know, maybe around year 580 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: four year five, he's gonna start needing some boosts if 581 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna have a shot. And maybe as these ballots 582 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: become a little less crowded or you know, as people 583 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: see it more fit for him to be, you know, 584 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: a fourth ballot or of whatever people do where they decide, 585 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's a fourth ballot or a seventh ballot, 586 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: which to me is ridiculous. If you know, if you 587 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: if you think of guy's a Hall of Famer, then 588 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: vote for him. You know, it doesn't matter what year. 589 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: Maybe some you know, down the road he'll start getting 590 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: more love. But right now, like I said, too early 591 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: to tell, but not the year a lot of people 592 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: were hoping for. So I'm putting him in this in 593 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: Trouble section. Moving on to the last guys that we're 594 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: going to talk about, and these are the first timers. 595 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: We're just gonna kind of run through these really quickly. 596 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: This is pretty easy. There were three guys that survived 597 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: their first time on the ballot. Mark Burley got eleven 598 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: percent of the vote. I think this is setting a 599 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: really really good baseline for him. That's higher than Billy 600 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Wagner got and in his first year. So I think 601 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: that's a really good number for Mark Burley, better than 602 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: I was expecting. You know, I want to see next 603 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: year what kind of pace he creates. If this eleven 604 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: percent is just the people that believe strongly in him 605 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: and and will ride with him, or if there are 606 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: going to be people that you know, didn't think he 607 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: was a first ballot guy, but now that it's past 608 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: the first ballot, they'll start putting him on their ballots 609 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: or depending on the way the ballot shapes up. But 610 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: I think this is a great number for Mark Burley, 611 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not saying he will get in. 612 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: We have to create some president and seek some kind 613 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: of pace from him. So we'll watch out for that 614 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: number next year. Tory Hunter, this was a really really 615 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: interesting one. Tory Hunter was under five percent on the 616 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: public ballot, so he would have fallen off if it 617 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: were just for the public ballot, but the private ballots 618 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: he was one of the He did some of the 619 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: best on the private ballot, getting fifteen point nine percent 620 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: of the vote on the public ballot or on the 621 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: private ballot, excuse me, So that saved him and actually 622 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: got him up to nine and a half percent, which 623 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: I think is a pretty good number, better than I 624 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: was expecting for Tory Hunter. I think he deserved to 625 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: stay on the ballot. I don't think he's a Hall 626 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: of Famer. To me, if jeffkd is just above the 627 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: line that is the Hall of very good, Tory Hunter 628 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: is just below it into the Hall of very good. 629 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite a Hall of Famer. But 630 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: he's a good player. And I like Tory. I liked 631 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: watching him, so it's good to see him stay on 632 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: the ballot, and I think he deserved to. You know, 633 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: his chances I don't think are very high. Tim Hudson 634 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: and this his you know, there's one of these every year. 635 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: He barely survived the ballot. He got even less of 636 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: the public ballot than Hunter. He was also saved by 637 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: the private ballot. It'll see, how you know, it'll be 638 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: interesting to see how long he can stay on. I'm 639 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: not sure there's probably you know, if you start out 640 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: at five point two percent, it's really tough. I just 641 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: gave away the number. I was going to try and 642 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: have a dramatic reveal of the number, but I just 643 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: gave it away. If you're just above five percent, it's 644 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: really tough. You know, if you just barely survive like that, 645 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: it's really tough to see you getting in down the line. 646 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: I don't think Hudson is a Hall of Famer, but 647 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: he was an enjoyable pitcher and he was really good 648 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: for the Giants, So to me, it's nice to see 649 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: him stay on the ballot. But yes, he is the bear, 650 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: the the barely survived guy. This year, he got five 651 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: point two percent of the vote. He got like four 652 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: percent of the public vote. So he just snuck in 653 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: and stays on the rest of the guys on the 654 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: first year. You know, there are always some guys that 655 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: don't you know, it's just how it is. They don't 656 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: have a good case, and and they're they're on, you know, 657 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: for recognition. And these are the guys that have fallen off. 658 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: Aramis Ramirez, LaTroy Hawkins, Barry Zito, AJ Burnett, Michael Kadier, 659 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: Dan Herron who had a really good tweet in response 660 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: to all that went down with Kurt Chilling and him 661 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: getting removed. Harron is a Hall of Fame tweeter, by 662 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: the way, but he tweeted, according to Twitter, I was 663 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: not elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame. They will 664 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: tell me I'm taking off the ballot next year, but 665 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: I'd like first to announce that I'm removing myself from 666 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: next year's ballot and any going forward hashtag zero percent. 667 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: Shout out to Dan Harron, Marlin legend, great guy, great 668 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 1: Twitter account, Hall of Fame tweeter, recommend following him at 669 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: I Throw eighty eight. Sadly he did not receive any 670 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame votes. He fell off along with Nick 671 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: Swisher and Shane Victorino. So let me go through that again. 672 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Aramis Ramirez, La, Troy Hawkins, Berry's Youdo, A. J. Burnett, 673 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: Michael Kadyr, Dan Harron, Nick Swishers, Shane Victorino. All very 674 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: good players, all had great careers, but all falling off 675 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame ballot this year. Next next time 676 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: we'll start. That wraps up the ballot for twenty twenty one. 677 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: That's it. That is all the guys. We covered all 678 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: of them, talked about all of them, and you know, 679 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: that was a lot of numbers, so it might have 680 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: been tough to follow. But you know, if you want 681 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: to take a look at the numbers, they are out there. 682 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: The BBW a release the full results and also I 683 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: highly recommend following Ryan Thibodeau. He does the Hall of 684 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: Fame tracker. Let me find his Twitter handle for everybody 685 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: out there. It is at not mister Tibbs. Tibbs, not 686 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: mister Tibbs on Twitter. He is the official Hall of 687 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: Fame tracker and he is great. He has the full 688 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: spreadsheet linked in his bio. Highly recommend taking a look 689 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: at it. That's where I got all of my information 690 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: from today. And yeah, it's it's it's a very interesting 691 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: thing to follow. So no again, no Hall of Famers 692 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: this year. We'll see how it shapes up next year. 693 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: Next year is going to be a very very interesting 694 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: ballot in terms of a Rod and Big Poppy are 695 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: two of the biggest names that will be on the 696 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: ballot next year. I'm just going to take a look 697 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: at it again. 698 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: Here. 699 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: The potential twenty twenty two Hall of Fame ballot includes 700 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: first timers Alex Rodriguez, David Ortiz, Mark Teshera, Jimmy Rollins, 701 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: Carl Crawford, Jake Pvcoco, Chris Justin Moreno Prince Field. There's 702 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: another name, Tim linsel Comes, another name A. J. Persinski's, 703 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: another name, Ryan Howard, and on down the line. There 704 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: are some other guys that you know could make the ballot, 705 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: but we won't know until around November. But in the 706 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 1: meantime we will be running Big Hall Talk. It will 707 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: be running year round. Next time we'll be starting with cases, 708 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: so let me know which ones you want to hear. 709 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'm open. You know, there are about fifteen 710 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: cases that I think are legitimate and that deserve to 711 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 1: be discussed, and then obviously, once the next ballot rolls around, 712 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: will start talking about those. But again, let me know 713 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: what you guys want to hear. I want to give 714 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: you the guys the content that you guys want to hear. 715 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,760 Speaker 1: I sound like a YouTuber, such a typical utuber podcaster 716 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: right now, but it's really true. So tell me who 717 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: you want to hear first. Do you want to hear 718 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Jones? You want to hear Gary Sheffield? You know, 719 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: do we need to do a whole podcast about the 720 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: greatest player of all time? 721 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 2: Because I can. 722 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: Talk for an hour about how great Barry Bonds was. 723 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: But seriously, let me know who you guys want to 724 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: hear first. I'm interested in it. I was thinking Andrew Jones. 725 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: I'm down to keep it with Andrew Jones, but I'll 726 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: throw up a pole, you know, along with when we 727 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: tweet out this podcast, I'll throw up a pole for 728 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: you guys so you can tell me who you guys 729 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: want to hear. Keep up with the show and all 730 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: of my Hall of Fame comment I content. I tweet 731 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: out a ton about the Hall of Fame, especially with 732 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: all that's going on right now. At Ethan Medowski on Twitter. 733 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: My last name is spelled bud ow Sky. It's also 734 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: on the front of you know, on the cover for 735 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 1: the Big Hall Talk. Shout out to my friend Page 736 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: Chrisky for a beautiful the beautiful updated logo for Big 737 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: Hole Talk. Shout out to Eli for the temporary one 738 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: as well. I love that little photoshop. But I will 739 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: be putting up a poll for you guys to decide 740 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: which case you want to hear first. Looking forward to it, 741 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: and we've got a big future here on Big Hall Talk.