1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. Today in the show, we're here 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: for Fresh Radio, in which we're getting updates from hunters 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: all across the country on the latest deer activity, current conditions, 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: and the tactics that can work for you. Right now, 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: all right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: to you by on X. We're here for the last 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: regular episode of ret Fresh Radio for two thousand twenty. 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: That means today we're gonna hear from hunters all across 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: the country on what's happening out there in the woods, 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: how weather's impacting things, how the time of years impacting things. 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: What types of tactics are are relevant and helpful at 15 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: this time of the year. Um, and that's you know, 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a little bit of sweet spencer knowing 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: that our weekly checkens are coming to a close. But 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: it's been a good run this year, isn't it. That's right? Yeah, 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: this is this is a finale of season five, and 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: it still seems weird that we've been doing this for 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: five years. It seems like the wrong number, but it's not. Uh. 22 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Despite this being the last episode, what you're kind of 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna here today is probably relevant for the next month. 24 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: And that's not like a thing that you can say 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: for any other episode during the year. What you hear 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: in mid October isn't relevant in you know, mid November. 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: What you hear at the end of September isn't relevant 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: at the end of October. But I think what you're 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: gonna get out of this December six episode is going 30 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: to be good for the rest of however long your 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: season goes. If you have a season that goes until 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: the end of January, what you're gonna hear is talk 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: about today, it's probably gonna be real event for these 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: next six weeks. It's uh. It's the late season, man. 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: In the late season is is from here on out 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: until until seasons closed. Antlers drop and we're right back 37 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: into the new year. So so you're absolutely right, it's uh. 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: I hesitate to say it's simple. It's not simple. It 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: can be. It can be a challenging time of year, 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: but it can also be a great time of year 41 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: if you have the right spots of the right situation. 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Um And and I don't know do you want me 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: to walk through I mean, we we've talked about this 44 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: in the past. There's nothing terribly revolutionary about this time 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: of the year except for knowing you know how to 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: react when certain conditions come through and then locating places 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: where you can take advantage of those conditions. Um Uh. 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Do we cover some of that stuff with the guests 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: or should I run through some stuff? We cover some 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: of that with the guests, Mark, But I've heard you 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: say this on probably every season of Red Fresh Radio 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: that late season can be the great season. So remind 53 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: us again, what does it take for this next multip 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: hunting to make the late season the great season. I'm 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: really good with that rhyming stuff, aren't I. Um. So, 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: you know what it is is that at this time 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: of year, more so than any other, deer are um 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: concentrated in specific places, and they're very focused on mostly 59 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: one thing, and that is the best possible food source 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: because there, you know, they've been running around like crazy 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: over the course of the rut, and winter is coming 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: and so all deer within the population are trying to 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: put on calories to make it through the upcoming tough months. 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: So you know, it makes to a degree, you know, 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: figuring these deer out simple if you find whatever it 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: is they want to feed on. Right now, you've found 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: the deer and they'll be relatively patternable. Now, of course, 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: this is more simple if you're trying to kill a 69 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: dove versus a six year old buck. But even that 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: mature buck in certain places, if you've got a spot 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: where he's not getting a shirt and harangued all the time, 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: even that deer might be more patniable at this time 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: of year than any other two. So you know, step 74 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: number one is simply trying to find that best food 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: and maybe you've got it on a property you can hunt, 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: or maybe you don't. If you don't have it on 77 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: the property you can hunt, you need to figure out, well, 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: where is that best food source on someone else's property, 79 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: And then you know howard dear traveling through mind to 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: get to that. You've got to figure out how that 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: influences dear movement where you can hunt. So maybe that 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: means that you don't have the food, but you who 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: do have the betting, or maybe you don't have either, 84 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: but you've got the travel corridor between the two. You 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: gotta figure that part out. But step one of that 86 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: map is the food, and you can figure that out 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: by long distance observation. This is a great time year 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: to be glassing from afar if you've got places to 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: do that. Um. You can also take advantage of snow 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: at this time of year to really tell the story 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: because in the snow you can very clearly see where 92 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: deer have been traveling recently. You can very clearly see 93 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: where deer have been feeding recently because you can see 94 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: the pot up snow, fresh dirt. Um, it's it's spelled 95 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: out much more obviously than than almost any other time 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: of the year. So snow helps a lot. Observation helps 97 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: a lot. You can still run trail cameras to figure 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: this stuff out, just like you do it any other 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: part of the year. Um. But all these things I 100 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: would preface with the fact that you've got to be 101 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: more careful than at any other point of the year 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: to not pressure these deer because they've been bumped around, 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: they've been hunted, they've been harassed for months now, so 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be you know, walking on pins and needles. 105 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: So we two as hunters need to walk on pins 106 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: and needles to not mess up what little bit of 107 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: advantage we might have. UM. So for me, that means 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: all of what I just described. I'm usually doing a 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: lot of long distance observation and running trail cameras, checking 110 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: those every once in a while in the middle of 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: the day when the wind's right, um, and using that 112 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,119 Speaker 1: to tell me, you know, if the deer I'm after, 113 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: or if any deer I'm after our you know, in 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: the area, and if they're still in the area, then 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to wait until one of two things happened. 116 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing I would typically be talking about, 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: you know, in early October, middle of October, which is 118 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: ideally I'd like to either see or get a picture 119 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: of that deer moving in daylight or have a big 120 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: cold front coming through that will get that deer moving 121 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: in daylight. So mega cold temperatures right at this time 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: of year, if you get those single digits mean it's 123 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: all relative to where you live, I guess, but whatever 124 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: extremely cold is for your area, or some kind of 125 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: significant snowfall, those two things usually get those deer on 126 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: their feet and going more than any other time. So 127 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: if you see that, it's time to get after it 128 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: or if you're scouting tells you to do, so go 129 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: in there and make it happen. Um. And you know, 130 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: all the other details that we talked about throughout the year, 131 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: as far as stand placement, as far as entry and exit, 132 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: all that still applies. So you gotta play all your 133 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: cards right. You gotta know how to get in. You've 134 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: got to know the right place to sit in relation 135 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: to where those deer gonna come out. But just remember that, 136 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: you know, at other times the year you might be 137 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: thinking about scrapes and rubs and funnels and uh, you 138 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: know the October lull quote unquote or whatever, all that 139 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: stuffs out the window. Now, just just figure out the 140 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: food and then figure out where you can hunt in 141 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: relation to that. And that's gonna get you started and 142 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: in the right direction nine times out of ten. Um. Yeah, 143 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: you know that's that's that's at spencer. I mean, there's 144 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of other little nitty gritty stuff depending on 145 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: your situation, but that's if you've got that figured out, 146 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: and if you can find what that top thing is, 147 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: you're in the game now. Right now. For example, UM, 148 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm hunting does in Michigan and I don't have the 149 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: main food source on the properties I'm hunting, so I've 150 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: been kind of clinging to hope that maybe I can 151 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: catch a straggling Doe family group just checking out one 152 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: of these little like third option, fourth option, very poor 153 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: food sources that I still do have in my area. Um, 154 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: but they're very obviously not doing that, so I'm kind 155 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: of just clinging to the past. And I still was 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: able to kill a deer tonight doing that, but instead 157 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: of seeing what what should be fift deer, I saw 158 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: four and I know that's not the long term solution. 159 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: So I got away with it tonight, but I don't 160 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna try that again. I realized now that, Okay, 161 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: if I want to get these deer, I don't have 162 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: the best food source right now, but I know where 163 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: that best food source is on some other properties several 164 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: properties away, and I can at least get in between them. 165 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: So you know, that's how I'm going to adjust. I 166 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: saw tonight that this is not where they're at. I've 167 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: got a really good hunch of where they will be. 168 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make that adjustment next time I come out 169 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: and hunt a transition, and uh, I think that will 170 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: get me right in the middle of the movement. Yeah. 171 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: And ultimately, Mark Um, late season can be the easiest 172 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: time or the hardest time to kill him a sure buck. 173 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Just all depends how your property sets up. And I 174 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: can think of some places that I hunt where it 175 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: is by far the hardest time to kill them. Try book. 176 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Then there's other places where it is by far the easiest. Um. 177 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: And it has to do with all those things that 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: you just talked about. Now, if you get done with 179 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: this podcast, Um and you still want more information on 180 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: late season hunting, I have three articles that should be 181 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: on your reading list. One of them is from Mark 182 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: it's called three Places to Find a post rut Buck 183 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: that he wrote in late November. And the two articles 184 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: from Tony Peterson, how to kill a late season buck 185 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: on public Land and three Overlooked deer hunting Tactics for 186 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: late season. These are all articles that you can find 187 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: on the mediator dot com if you go over there, 188 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: navigate from hunt to whitetail or searching our search bar, 189 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: and you'll find exactly what I'm talking about. Now. The 190 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: people we talked to this week are Dan Moultrie from 191 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: Moultrie in Texas, Josh Hilliard from the National Deer Association 192 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: in Michigan. That's talking to Further's first appearance on RUT 193 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: Fresh radio. Oh Man, alright, I love it, Hunter Little 194 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: Masters from the Release in West Virginia, and the Garrett 195 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: Armstrong from White Tailed Properties in Iowa. Well, guys, get ready, 196 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a slam dunk podcast. We got 197 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: we got Further and actually I'm playing on talking with 198 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: him at the very end of the year for the 199 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: end of the year wrap up chat two. So you're 200 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: gonna get a preview of Josh tonight and then you're 201 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: gonna get a full blown j Hilly. You'red uh, I 202 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what you call it 203 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: or something. So you get five minutes today and then 204 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: you get like sixty minutes at the end of the month. 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: So this is a good little appetizer for more Further. 206 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: What what more people want at the end of the year. 207 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: We're giving them everything we couldn't have in We will 208 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: give it to you now in the end to send 209 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: the year out on the right note. That's right, all 210 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: the podcast downloads coming over with oh Man, it's gonna 211 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: be a killer alright, dude, alright, Mark Well, I will 212 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: talk to you in one for our Red Fresh Radio 213 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: wrap up episode. Until then, good luck with what's every 214 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: left of your season? Same to you, buddy, alright and 215 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: joining us on the line next is Dan Moultrie from 216 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Moultrie in Texas. Now, Dan in Texas, what would you 217 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: say the buck activity is on a scale of one 218 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: to ten, The buck activity is really pretty good. The 219 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,599 Speaker 1: bucks for coming to horns and the rud is on. 220 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: But all South Texas is in sort of a drought 221 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: right now, and and the ranches where we hunt were 222 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: in a stream drought, and so I think the dose 223 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: are in poor body condition, and so I would give 224 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: it a scale of six because it's sort of a 225 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: trickling rut instead of all intents at one time. So 226 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: let's go with six on that special. So what phase 227 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: of the rout would you say different parts of Texas 228 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: are in right now? It's it's it's the in South Texas. 229 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: The rud is on from the Golden Triangle down. I mean, 230 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: it's prime time right now. But again, when the with 231 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: water being so imperative to the size of the horns 232 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: and the quality of the deer and the quality of 233 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: the reproduction and those it has uh slowed the those activity. 234 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: You don't see them all coming in. You still see 235 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: a lot of those with their yulings with them and 236 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: that haven't come in, but the bucks are ready to run. 237 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: You know, we probably had as good a years as 238 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: you could have. We killed eight bucks. Uh and and 239 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: like I said, they were coming to horns also. But 240 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: that we averaged about one sixty on free range deer, 241 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: which is just you know, as good as it gets. 242 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: And you never would have done that if the rut 243 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: hadn't been on. So a little bit of a little 244 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: bit of weather conditions, but that's really typical of South 245 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: Texas more so than almost anywhere else in the United States. Uh. 246 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: You know, everything is conditional upon how much rain you 247 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: get down here. So with that area being in a drought, 248 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: do water sources factor into your setups at all? Absolutely, 249 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: and especially on bow hunting. Uh. The the water holes, really, 250 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: they may not come to a feeder, they may not 251 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: come to corn on the road, they may not come 252 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: to whatever food source they've been on, but they're gonna 253 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: come to that water hole sometime during the day or 254 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the night. And most of them were not nocturnal. Uh, most, 255 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, we saw all activity during the day. So yes, 256 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: if somebody who's gonna do a set up, it's a 257 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: great time to have a set up on a on 258 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: a water hole or as they call them, out hit 259 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: tanks where the windmills are. You mentioned that you were 260 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: doing some rattling this week. What is a typical calling 261 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: sequence look like for you during peak rod in Texas? 262 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: The the most you know, they've always been good that 263 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: the buck to doe ratio down here is so good 264 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: on the big ranches, it's always been really close to 265 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: one to one, and so you always get very good 266 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: response off horns. Uh. We started about two weeks. We've 267 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: been down here three weeks and we started about two 268 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: weeks ago rattling pre hut and they came to horns, 269 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think we did a sequence that we 270 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: didn't see deer come in and down here it's different 271 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: than a lot of places in the US. You don't 272 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: have just one deer coming in. You may have you know, 273 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: the last sequence we did though, day we had three 274 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: bucks come in and they start making sort of circles 275 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: around you, and there you can tell the bucks are 276 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: in La la Land. But you know they they don't 277 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: believe they're lying. Is not seeing the deer once the 278 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: rattling because they're so intent on coming into the to 279 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: the fight. So really this is the best rattling place 280 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: I think in the US because of the good buck 281 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: to dough ratio. But they really were coming to horns. Well, 282 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: do you see midday movement in Texas like you do 283 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the country during peak rutt Yes, we 284 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: saw it, Yes, absolutely you do. And again it got 285 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: up into it was eighty six and then it'll go 286 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: down in the highs for the day will be in 287 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: the seventies. But it's rare that we get below that 288 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: down here during midday. But even when the temperature was up, 289 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: we were still seeing activity of of bucks pushing those 290 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: during the middle of the day. And it's right now 291 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: when we just left the ranch, it's you still we're 292 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: seeing you know that going on. I think it's gonna 293 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: trickle out where usually it's it's around the tent as 294 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: the peak and its start tent to the fift something 295 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: like that. Down here, I think you'll see it trickle 296 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: on for this month and then the second run will 297 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: come in for anything that didn't get breadth and uh, 298 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: I think it'll be fine. But it's just again just 299 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: the dry weather conditions in mid December in Texas. Where 300 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: do you want to be running most of your trail 301 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: cameras right now? We if, I think, because a lot 302 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: of the deer and they're they're all hungry also, so 303 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: this would be more than trails, or more than scrapes, 304 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: or more than some of the other places people put 305 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: the crossings or whatnot. If I was running my trail 306 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: cameras right now, there's two places i'd have. I'd have 307 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: them on the feed source and I'd have them on 308 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: the water source. If you had your your feeders and 309 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: your water sources cameras on, you're gonna catch, you know, 310 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: all the deer at some point you're gonna have You're 311 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a great inventory of what you got there 312 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: and what you what you have available to hunt going forward. Then, 313 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think 314 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: that buck activity is going to be on a scale 315 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Texas? I think it will 316 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: continue to be the six down here in South Texas 317 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: because of the the the drought weather conditions. I think 318 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: that it will will be intense up to that six, 319 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: but again being defined by the shape that the does 320 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: are in and the harsh weather conditions. All Right, Dan 321 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: will congrats on the great bucks from you and your 322 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: buddies down there. Thanks for joining me. Good luck with 323 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: what's left your season, It'll be great. Thanks for calling. 324 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Wish everybody good luck and have a happy holiday, all 325 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: right and joining us on the line. Next is Josh 326 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: Hilliard from the National Deer Association in Michigan. Now, Josh 327 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: in Michigan, what would you say the bucket activity has been, Hey, Spencer, 328 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. UM. I would say buck activity 329 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: here in Michigan has been very low, like maybe like 330 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: a two, maybe a three, UM, you know, lower on 331 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: my end, and I've seen some people have been having 332 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: some success, but we're just wrapping up about a month 333 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: worth of guns season here in Michigan. UM, and then 334 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: the zone where I'm at you you've been able to 335 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: use uh any type of legal firearm for about a 336 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: month now, just a couple of days of break between 337 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: our general firearms season and then uh what has traditionally 338 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: been a muggleloader season that has been opened up to 339 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: additional weapons this year. So there's been a lot more 340 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: pressure these last couple of weeks, um than what I've 341 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: traditionally seen during muzzleloader season. UM. So I think it's 342 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: just a byproduct of a lot more pressure on these 343 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: deer and more hunters in the woods right now. I've 344 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a buck in my last few hunts Primariland, 345 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: public land. Um. But yeah, it's been it's been tough 346 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: on in here the last couple of weeks. Do you 347 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: typically expect to only see no internal movement then for 348 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the season in Michigan. Yeah, you know, 349 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I think what we'll see some some daylight movement if 350 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: we can get some cold leather here, some snow. Um, 351 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: it's been a little bit warmer than what I would expect, 352 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: and it's been like in the forties here, high thirties, 353 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: where we're going to be consistently low to mid thirties 354 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: here the next week or so, and then looks like 355 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe by Christmas we're supposed to get a nice little 356 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: drop in temperature. So hopefully that will get some some 357 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: bucks back on their feet and moving, uh in daylight hours, 358 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: trying to you know, hit some food sources again, trying 359 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: to put some of that body weight back on um 360 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: leading into the into the winter here. It's supposed to 361 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: get a couple of inches of snow today, but not 362 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: looking like we're gonna get that. So I'd love to 363 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: see a few inches of snow on the ground and 364 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: some cold weather moving in, but um, it doesn't look 365 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: like that's gonna be happening here in the next week 366 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: or so. I know, you just you didn't do a 367 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: public parcel this last weekend. If you're doing some in 368 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: season scouting in Michigan, what kinds of things are you 369 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: looking for in mid December? Yeah, I mean if there's 370 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: if you can find any spots with any with any 371 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: oak trees or acorns on the ground still, um, you know, 372 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: back into some difficult to access spots. I think that's 373 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: key right now, especially if you're hunting public in a 374 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: in a state like Michigan where it's heavily pressured. You know, 375 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: we were able to to use a boat and to 376 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: get into some some marshy areas that um, you know, 377 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it hit too hard, um, but there's 378 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: definitely still hunter signed back in there, so people are 379 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: still getting there if you can. I'm looking for areas 380 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: that maybe have some food or maybe have some good 381 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: thick betting tome with some you know, oaks or something 382 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: on a ridge or something where where it's difficult to 383 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: access for for your kind of everyday guy. That that's 384 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: what I'm looking for right now, is trying to get 385 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: away from from the crowds if I can. Besides acorns, 386 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: what other food sources should hunters be focused on right now? Yeah, 387 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you've got access to you know, 388 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: any egg fields or anything around, if you can find 389 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: some some standing beans or um, you know, a cut 390 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: corn field that hasn't been disk under yet or anything 391 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: like that. Any anything like that would be would be 392 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: great in an ideal scenario. Um, you know, if there's 393 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: any sort of green forage on the ground still, um 394 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: that they're they're chomping on and that's always a positive too. 395 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: But um, you know, hopefully you've got somewhere you can 396 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: get that at least maybe it's even if it's on 397 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: public maybe it maybe it butts up to some some 398 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: private egg fields or or or whatnot. But um, that 399 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: would be you know, ideal scenario would have some standing 400 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: beans or something like that. But they're keying in on 401 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: where are you running a lot of your trail cameras 402 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: in mid December. Yeah, I've got a little forty acres 403 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: that I that I hunt. UM actually haven't hunted it 404 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: much since I killed a buck on it back in 405 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: mid November. I've kind of stayed out of there. UM. 406 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't have any like great food sources on that property. UM, 407 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: but what I've got is really good betting cover, especially 408 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: like thermal bedding cover. UM. So I've this is my 409 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: second year on that piece, and I've ran some cameras 410 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: on that place around um that that betting cover. UM, 411 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I seemed I seemed to hold a lot more dear 412 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: on that property late in the season. It's right in 413 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: the little um Creek bottom and it comes up this 414 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: little hill into the like about eight or ten acres 415 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: of conifers and pines and just great betting cover. So 416 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: I've been kind of monitoring that the edges of that 417 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 1: um in the late season, just kind of seeing if 418 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: I've got any you know, any bucks kind of that 419 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: have moved into the area, UM or maybe have been 420 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: displaced through through guns season. They're looking to get away 421 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. I try to keep the pressure low 422 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: on that place, so um, ben checking cameras and see 423 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: if I have any new bucks showing up here in 424 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: the late season. I haven't yet, but um, I had 425 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: a couple of new ones show up last year. So 426 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: we'll see if if anything shows up, and then try 427 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: make a couple more calculated strikes down there with with 428 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: my ball here in the late season going forward. Then 429 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: in the next week or so, what do you think 430 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: that Buck ACTV is going to be on a scale 431 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Michigan. Yeah, I hope it 432 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: starts to pick back up a little bit, and I 433 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: could see them to beget into like a four or five, um, 434 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: especially later towards the next week. Um, with some of 435 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: those temperatures coming down, hopefully less pressure in the woods 436 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: with the gun seasons wrapping up, and and I think 437 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: less people are out in the woods with their ball 438 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: this time of year. UM, So hopefully a little less pressure, 439 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: a little colder weather, maybe some snow here in the 440 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: forecast the next week or so, we'll get those bucks 441 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: starting to be a little bit more daylight active. All right, 442 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: JOSHU like your optimism. Good luck with what it's after 443 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: your season, and thanks for joining me alright and joining 444 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is Hunter the Masters from 445 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: the release in West Virginia. Now Hunter in West Virginia. 446 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: What would you say the bucket activity has been lately 447 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten. Lately within the 448 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: last week and up to now, I'd say it's right 449 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: around the seven. Um. That's so because where I'm hunting 450 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: right now, one of the spots, there's actually a lot, 451 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: a lot of big population, a lot of those, and 452 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: the second route, I've noticed a lot of chasing, and 453 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: uh so that's been why I'm giving into seven. And 454 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: then I've talked to a lot of other people around 455 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: here and they've been seeing a lot of chasing as 456 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: well as well as fresh scrapes and a lot of 457 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: daytime movement. Now, you just recently killed a great book 458 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: in West Virginia. Tell us about that set up, why 459 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: you were there, and why that buck was there. I 460 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: killed this buck on Saturday at twelve, and I worked 461 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: nights last week coming up into that, and after night 462 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: I went out scouting all day long whatever to some 463 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: public land that I round about show Camerzon was moving 464 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: stuff around, and then I got back to where I 465 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: was wanting to hunt that evening, which is where I 466 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: was wanting to focus the next few days, but instead 467 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: of hunting out, decided just going and scout and see 468 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: how the deer were using the pro begin coming out 469 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: into the fields. Because I had a camera cell camera 470 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: on this food plot over the field by hunt and 471 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: there's recently there's a lot of activity in the evenings 472 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: and a lot during nighttime and a lot of bucks 473 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: were moving, So I wanted to see how they were 474 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: using that, how they're getting into that field. Right at dark, 475 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: I had a loving point come into the field, so 476 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: I saw where the buck was coming into the field. 477 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: And the next morning I got up on the ridge 478 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: and uh, I caught a couple bucks coming back to 479 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: bed and so does but nothing. I was really wanting 480 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: to shoot, but I was really focusing on that next evening, 481 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: and that evening I got back in there. Uh had 482 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: the same wind as the night before. Um, it was 483 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: a little cooler, it was raining, but I knew I 484 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: had to be in there because I've seen that action 485 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: the last few days. So I got in. Um, a 486 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: couple of little bucks come out, and then right before dark, 487 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I saw the buck that I had shot pushing two 488 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: dose and he pushed him right to me, right underneath me, 489 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: and I was able to get a shot on him. 490 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like food was the key to that haunt. 491 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: What food sources should hunters and West Virginia be focused 492 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: on right now? I think right now with um how 493 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: the weather is changing in bucks are just pending on 494 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: the area to like where I'm at. You know, you 495 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: just second rut a lot of days weren't bread. They'll 496 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: come back in. So I think hunters in West Virginia 497 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: they should focus on areas was more population. You get 498 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: out to trail cameras and see where they're moving, but 499 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: try to focus in on where the doosese are at. 500 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Is where the those are at. The bucks will be 501 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: right now, and they were in this case. The uh 502 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: they're all coming to that food plot. There's that big 503 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: field in one section of it's a little bit of 504 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: food club where at a farmer come in and plant 505 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: some mouthalfla, different clovers and grasses, and they've been hammering 506 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: that lately. So that's why I was in there. I 507 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: got in between that and the betting area trying to 508 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: get them staging down from betting to that field. And 509 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: as as they able to do that, I think That's 510 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: how what people want Virginia to be focusing on just 511 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: where the where they're feeding. Um, try to get in 512 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: catch them as are coming in and going out of that. 513 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: Do you notice a shift in bedding in mid December 514 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: in West Virginia? Depends on where you're hunting again, Like 515 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: where this spot where I've been hunting throughout the year 516 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: it has changed lately. That then actually betting closer to 517 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: the food source, just getting around the food sources and 518 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: hunting the wind correctly and you get a good luck 519 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: at being successful. What's the idea whether that you're looking 520 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: for this time of year in that part of the country. Uh, 521 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: big weather shifts like right now, Um, but then the 522 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: last week it's dropped twenty degrees. I think it was 523 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: like sixty the first days scout an hour he uh 524 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: snowing in the thirties, a thirty degree change. And uh 525 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: today I've noticed a lot more action on my cell cameras. 526 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: Be are moving around, bucks are moving around. So just 527 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: that changing weather, good pressure. This week, this past week, 528 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: and this coming week is looking like it's going to 529 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: be a great time of hunt going forward. Then it's 530 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that bucket 531 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on the scale of one 532 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: to ten in West Virginia. I think it will. I 533 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: think it will be up around and nine uh the 534 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: next couple of days. The pressure is looking good, the 535 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: weather is dropped in the snow, um, they're gonna keep moving. 536 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: And I had that second round activity going on. I 537 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: think the next few days is going to ramp up 538 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: even more. And some of the friends and cousins I've 539 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: been talking to you, it seems like they're having the 540 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: same action that I've seen. So I think the next 541 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 1: few days here in West Virginia is a great time 542 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: to be out in the woods. All right, hunter, congrats 543 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: on the great buck. Good luck with the rest of 544 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: your season, and thanks for joining me. I appreciate it. 545 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: Thank you alright and joining us on the line. Next 546 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: is Garrett Armstrong from white Tail Properties in Iowa. Now, 547 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: Garrett in Iowa, what would you say the buck activity 548 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten. 549 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, I would say 550 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: the buck activity has been about a four and a 551 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: half uh. And the reason I say that it would 552 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: be better, however, we're in the middle of our second 553 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: shotgun season, and in my area there's just been a 554 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: lot of pressure, a lot of a lot of driven hunts, 555 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot of guys out, and that's really suppressed the 556 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: natural daytime movement. However, we did experience We've got about 557 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: four to five inches of snow on the ground that 558 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: we've had for about four or five days, and with 559 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: the colder temperatures, the movement has been good on some 560 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: food sources, so it kind of it's somewhat balancing out 561 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: that that human pressure. So on farms that aren't getting 562 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure, I am seeing good buck movement 563 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: right now. What are some of those food sources that 564 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,239 Speaker 1: are relevant for hunters right now in Iowa? I mean, 565 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: right now, it's gonna be your grains, um pick corn 566 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: fields have been really hot. If you've got some standing 567 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: beans with this snow, I've been seeing good movement there 568 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: and they're just starting to hit kind of my Braska 569 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: turn up plots. So I would assume that everybody's plots 570 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: are in the same position, just starting to kind of 571 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: hit those pretty hard, but really grains, corn and beans 572 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: still going to be the primary food source right now, 573 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: whether it be from late season, whether or gun season. 574 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: Do you notice a shift in bedding in mid December, 575 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: and I you know what I am, I'm seeing uh 576 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: some of our kind of traditional you know, betting areas, 577 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: ridge tops and some north facing slopes that would have betting, 578 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, during during the rut. Now everything's really shifting 579 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: to the super thick cover and anything south facing. Again 580 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: we're you know, mid twenties too, low thirties during the 581 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: day and in single digits overnight, so we're we're definitely 582 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: seeing south facing slopes kind of hold hold more, dear 583 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: at this point, where are you running your trail cameras 584 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: right now? My cameras are a hundred percent on food sources. 585 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: In fact, actually today I'm I'm moving a couple of 586 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: cameras around that I've had set up since November. Um. 587 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: Again kind of getting ready to be prepared for for 588 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: late muzzleloader season. Um, everything's going to food sources, uh, 589 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: edges of cover and just kind of transitions from betting 590 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: to food. Just trying to get a handle on what's 591 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: made it through shotgun and what's gonna be around late 592 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: season this year. Do any setups in the morning this 593 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: time of year, you know, I personally don't. UM, I'm 594 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: a I'm a afternoon hunter only this time of year. 595 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I guess if I had some some intel from the 596 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: cameras that would give me a reason, uh and some 597 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: motivation to hunt morning, I might try it. But that'd 598 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: be a pretty rare scenario. So for me, it's really 599 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: just slipping in, you know, quiet afternoon on some food, 600 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: seeing what's hitting the food, and then getting out. So 601 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not getting really aggressive this time of year. 602 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm hunting edges only, and again that's the benefit with 603 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: the muzzleloaders. You know, I've got a little bit of 604 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: distance and reach as opposed to you know, archery equipment. 605 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: So I'm just hunting the edges of food and trying 606 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: not to disturb my properties as much as possible. Historically, 607 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: do you notice any kind of a secondary rout in 608 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: your part of Iowa? You know what, I have seen 609 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of it. And a good friend of 610 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: mine and client of mine hunted first shotgun, which was 611 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, December six seventh eighth. He was out that 612 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: first weekend and he actually did experience some running activity. 613 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Um he had bucks bumping dos around, um kind of 614 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: checking and seeking. So, uh, yeah, we we do see 615 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: a bit of a second area run. But again it's 616 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna be you know, suppressed and at a much lower 617 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: rate than what we've seen in November. Has signmaking pretty 618 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: much gone cold for you? Uh? It has. I haven't 619 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: seen any open scrapes uh at all. And and again 620 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: I say that because I really haven't been spending a 621 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: ton of time inside these properties, just trying to keep 622 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: pressure off. But some of the kind of community scrapes 623 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: and bigger scrape areas on the edges of food sources 624 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: have you know, and gone dead for me. Going forward, Then, 625 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think 626 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: that buck activity will be on a scale of one 627 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: to ten in Iowa? If I had to make a prediction, 628 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: if this weather stays the way it is, um, I 629 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: think it's gonna increase a little bit on food. So 630 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it us six 631 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: on food. We still have some relatively mild temperatures, and 632 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna have the weather too to 633 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: really get those big bucks on their feet moving early 634 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: and on food in daylight. I think we're still maybe 635 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away from that. So so I'd 636 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: say next week we're gonna be you know, five and 637 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: a half to six on Buck Movements. All right, Garrett, 638 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: I hope you get the weather you're looking for. Good 639 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: luck with what's left to your season, and thanks for 640 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: joining me. Yeah, thanks so much. And that concludes this 641 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: week's episode of rout Fresh Radio. And that concludes season 642 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: five of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Dan, Josh, Hunter, 643 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: and Garrett for joining me, and thanks to all of 644 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: our contributors for the twenty season of rout Fresh Radio. 645 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: And thank you guys most of all for listening. 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