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Speaker 3: It's a Bucking Fits takeover on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: He's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason Fitz for the next four That's right, count.

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Speaker 4: On four, four big hours.

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Speaker 3: We are gonna be hanging out with you guys, getting

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Speaker 3: you ready for the most overrated.

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Speaker 4: Holiday on the calendar.

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Speaker 3: I just it took me three seconds and I've already frustrated.

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Speaker 5: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I just say, wow, Look, Thanksgiving is the most overrated

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Speaker 3: holiday on the calendar. We all know what Thanksgiving food sucks,

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Speaker 3: but we don't suck. We're gonna have a good time

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Speaker 3: for the next fi.

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Speaker 5: I disagree you you suck. If you want to start

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Speaker 5: this show that way, then I'm distancing myself from you immediately. First,

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Speaker 5: and foremost too, you suck if you think that Thanksgiving

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Speaker 5: is the most overrated holiday now, end of discussion.

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Speaker 3: Look it is, uh And I just came in guns

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Speaker 3: blazing because frankly, I knew that it would piss you off.

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Speaker 4: And that was my goal right out of the gates.

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Speaker 3: Like, look, sometimes you need like, look, you need just

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Speaker 3: a little slap, right, Like everybody has their own thing

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Speaker 3: in the in the in the tunnel before the game starts.

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Speaker 3: I think Buck Rising needs just a little slap, just

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Speaker 3: a little little slap in the face.

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Speaker 5: And that John Henderson, I gotta I gotta feel it,

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Speaker 5: but I gotta feel a little blood in my mouth

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Speaker 5: to get going to here fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know you as a teammate, right, so I

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Speaker 3: make sure that we start the show off is as

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Speaker 3: fired up as possible. The football tomorrow is actually, I

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Speaker 3: think gonna be really good. The football tomorrow is gonna

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Speaker 3: be excellent. It's gonna be great. The food that people

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Speaker 3: pretend they like while they're eating the football is all

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Speaker 3: gonna be trashed, But the football itself, all of its trash,

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Speaker 3: is going to be is gonna be really good. And

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. Maybe I don't know, Buck.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's because the Lions are finally not hot garbage.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's because the Cowboys have given us just enough

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Speaker 3: hope for everybody to feel like it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a great day. But it just feels like Thanksgiving football

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Speaker 3: the last couple of years, between the fact that they're

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Speaker 3: always going to find a way to get the Chiefs involved,

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Speaker 3: the fact that the Lions are actually worth watching, and

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys have become interesting on the field, not just

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Speaker 3: a really good day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all three of these games are interesting for different reasons. Right,

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Speaker 5: You've got the NFC North, which is very much in

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Speaker 5: that's where things stand right now. So the Packers, Lions

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Speaker 5: don't know how you feel about this. We obviously haven't

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Speaker 5: But the way that the Cowboys came back against the

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Speaker 5: above five hundred this season, I don't know which win

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Speaker 5: never in my lifetime I'm thirty two years old. Never

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Speaker 5: in my lifetime have the Dallas Cowboys actually been America's team.

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Speaker 5: And yet, given that there's a lot of emotion tied

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Speaker 3: And I love this because it reminds me of eighties wrestling.

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Speaker 4: Back to a bad guy.

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Speaker 3: I like that sort of transformation where you go from

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Speaker 3: And I also like the fact that this matchup between

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Speaker 3: eighties wrestling reference, loser leaves town battle right like, because

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Speaker 3: You get your way out of that becomes what feels

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Speaker 3: So, you've got a Chiefs team at six and five

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Speaker 4: I was ready to say there's no takeaway.

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Speaker 4: Turns out, then the Cowboys came back.

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Speaker 3: So is there something from the comeback against the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: For George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: The acquisition of George Pickens turns out to be one

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Speaker 3: He is absolutely uncoverable. He is, to me the number

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Speaker 5: Yes, and inevitably that game will disappoint us the most,

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Speaker 5: would clarify a little bit. I don't feel like we've

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Speaker 5: The George Pickens situation, I know that he was benched.

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Speaker 5: make himself a lot of money. Whether that ends up

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Speaker 5: Will it go as well as it has in Dallas

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Speaker 5: It's going to matter for one of these teams later

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Speaker 3: I said this on y'ahoo Sports Daily my usual uh,

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Speaker 3: Monday through Friday, I heard so many people screaming about

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Speaker 3: You never play for a tie Okay, look at the

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Speaker 5: in for the guys. So fitsy of the games that

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Speaker 3: The hard part here is that we need to understand

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Speaker 4: That's what the Bengals are doing.

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Speaker 3: So now, if you're the coaching staff for the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't think this. I think both

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say the Ravens stink anytime you have Lamar

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I've been covering college football professionally

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Speaker 3: for about a decade now, Buck, I've never seen anything

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Speaker 5: Like, I.

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Speaker 3: Get it, he's the biggest name on the market. I

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Speaker 4: I get why.

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Speaker 3: Teams would be interested to a degree in Lane Kiffen,

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Speaker 3: But it feels like this is absolutely blowing the entire

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Speaker 4: And now there are.

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Speaker 3: Reports out that Floridas started talking to some other candidates,

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Speaker 4: On Saturday he's headed to LSU. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I won't pretend to know, but Buck, what I do

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Speaker 3: know is that this thing is broken. And the entire

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Speaker 3: which I don't fault him for doing, he's got to go,

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Speaker 4: He's gonna go take his new gig. Whatever. Fine, he

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Speaker 3: But the thought of not coaching your team through the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: No, it's egregious. And this is something that clearly has

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Speaker 5: we have an abbreviated version of what Sabin had to

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Speaker 5: Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 7: This is not a Lane Kiffin conundrum. This is a

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Speaker 7: in terms of coaching searches and opportunities for people to leave.

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Speaker 7: Players can lead. So if you went to the ole

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Speaker 7: that's the way it should be, regardless of what Lane

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Speaker 5: So that's Nick Saban on the desk of College Game

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Speaker 5: And I'm not knocking Nick Saban or whatever, Like, It's

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Speaker 5: which of course revolves around collegiate academic institutions that theoretically

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Speaker 5: should not be deferential to athletics and the decision making

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, that's the hardest part is that national signing

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Speaker 3: you know what, we need to move that to after

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Speaker 3: This is one hundred percent right. For everybody that says this,

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Speaker 4: It is broken.

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Speaker 3: The problem is if you move it all the way

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Speaker 4: How do you enroll in school a new college?

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Speaker 3: How do you how do you change where you're going

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Speaker 4: The school times don't align with.

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Speaker 3: That, So like, there's no way to start that school

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Speaker 3: How do you enroll in school in the middle of February?

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Speaker 3: That doesn't work with actual academic calendars. So college football

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Speaker 3: in what late July?

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Speaker 4: Like that, that doesn't make any sense. So like I

440
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Speaker 4: hear Nick Chamer.

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Speaker 5: South South No, or in Texas or on the West coast, like,

442
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Speaker 5: it's just it's not it's not to enact that level

443
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Speaker 5: of change for a variety of different rates.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, exactly. So that's why everything just becomes stuck.

445
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Speaker 3: And I think, you know again, this is where I

446
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Speaker 3: don't have any emotion.

447
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Speaker 4: I just have logic with these things.

448
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Speaker 3: When you look at all of the logic, there is

449
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Speaker 3: no easy way for this to get worked out. Like

450
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Speaker 3: this is just the worst imaginable situation where a coach,

451
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Speaker 3: in order to go out and get the transfers and

452
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Speaker 3: get the roster built that he needs to get built

453
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Speaker 3: at the school that's likely going to be paying him

454
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Speaker 3: ninety million dollars, he's going to have to stop coaching

455
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Speaker 3: at all MISS before the playoffs and that just feels

456
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Speaker 3: icky like that.

457
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Speaker 4: But I can't figure out a way to solve it.

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Speaker 5: No, it's I mean it is, it's not currently there's

459
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Speaker 5: not a solve that currently exists, right, We're just going

460
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Speaker 5: to have to get through the flaws of this thing

461
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Speaker 5: as it's currently constructed. And I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what decision Lane ends up making. It's going

463
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Speaker 5: to be polarized either way. To your point, the way

464
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Speaker 5: that you started this segment, there's never been one a

465
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Speaker 5: situation like this, but also an atmosphere to create a

466
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Speaker 5: situation like this ever in the that I can think

467
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Speaker 5: of in the history of collegiate athletics. And the fact

468
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Speaker 5: that Lane Kiffin has done his job right, He's gotten

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Speaker 5: old Miss into the playoff picture. Lane Kiffin has done

470
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Speaker 5: his job. And you could say, well, the job is

471
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Speaker 5: not finished because the goal is a national championship and

472
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Speaker 5: that should be the priority. But that I think that

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Speaker 5: depends on the program that you're at, and it oll Miss.

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Speaker 5: I think it is good enough to make the playoffs,

475
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Speaker 5: Like I think Lane Kiffin has done his job at

476
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Speaker 5: a commensurate level that anything else beyond this would be gravy. Now,

477
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Speaker 5: if you want to be considered as one of the

478
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Speaker 5: best in your profession. If you want to be talked

479
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Speaker 5: about in the same way that we talk about Ryan

480
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Speaker 5: Day or Kirby Smart, than Yeah, national championship every year

481
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Speaker 5: is the standard, which is why LSU and Florida are

482
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Speaker 5: in consideration at all, because if it was just about

483
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Speaker 5: winning ten games a year, he could stay at all

484
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Speaker 5: miss and have a much easier lifestyle, as you've pointed

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Speaker 5: out several times on our our weekend show together, FITZI,

486
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Speaker 5: but it's just it's very, very convoluted right now, and

487
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Speaker 5: I don't what if what if he loses the egg Ball,

488
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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like, what if he loses

489
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Speaker 5: the egg Maybe maybe he's thinking about all right, I'm

490
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Speaker 5: I'm I'm going no matter what, But then he loses

491
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Speaker 5: the egg Bowl. LSU and Florida look around and be like,

492
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Speaker 5: how much money are we going to offer the guy

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Speaker 5: that just lost to Mississippi State When Mississippi State doesn't

494
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Speaker 5: beat anybody by the way, they're playing for ball eligibility.

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Speaker 5: They're not a good team, but they're a team that's

496
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Speaker 5: good enough to make you sweat this. You talked about

497
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Speaker 5: chaos scenarios earlier in the world of college football, that

498
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Speaker 5: that Egg Bowl has the potential to be as catastrophic

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Speaker 5: as any game played this weekend.

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Speaker 3: That's that's complicated, like this entire situation, and there's another

501
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Speaker 3: reason why.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's an easy answer.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell you what it is next, but first Manzi

504
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Speaker 3: Blagya's got to get his.

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Speaker 4: Caught up on what is going on? Get us caught up.

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Speaker 2: My friend shit.

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Speaker 8: See you saying that it's Ikey is putting it nicely

508
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Speaker 8: because it's so.

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Speaker 3: It is so.

510
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Speaker 2: It just like the situation just sucks.

511
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Speaker 8: And you guys think there's a chance that Lane Kiffin

512
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Speaker 8: is not leaving. Why would you make that announcement if

513
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Speaker 8: you were not leaving. I know we're waiting on the

514
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Speaker 8: official announcement, but you get what I'm saying, like, why

515
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Speaker 8: would you announce the announcement?

516
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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Why is there an announcement to begin with?

518
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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 5: Everybody shut up? I'm so with you, I'm so with you.

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Speaker 4: Why are we announcing anything?

521
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Speaker 8: Just play and then when there's news, then share the

522
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Speaker 8: news because maybe there's not no news, but there's no

523
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Speaker 8: way there's no news anyway. It's just it's just an

524
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Speaker 8: annoying situation in the NBA. Fellas you know, I don't

525
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Speaker 8: know how old Steph Curry is off the top of

526
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Speaker 8: my head, but this guy is actually playing defense tonight,

527
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Speaker 8: and it's really nice to see. Against the Rockets. The

528
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Speaker 8: Warriors are up right now, sixty three to fifty. It's

529
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Speaker 8: still early in the third quarter. This is the NBA

530
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Speaker 8: group play for the NBA Cup. The Spurs are up

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Speaker 8: on the Trailblazer seventy to sixty five, also still early

532
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Speaker 8: in the third. Halfway through the third, these Suns are

533
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Speaker 8: just cruising past the Kings right now.

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Speaker 4: Seventy two to fifty five is the score.

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Speaker 8: Russell Westbrook leading the way for Sacramento with fourteen points.

536
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Speaker 8: The Celtics snapped the pistons thirteen game winning streak already.

537
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Speaker 8: They came out on top one seventeen to one fourteen. OKC, though,

538
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Speaker 8: is one of five NBA teams in the history of

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Speaker 8: NBA to start the season eighteen and one or better.

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Speaker 8: They defeated the Timberwolves one thirteen to one oh five.

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Speaker 8: OKAC has also won ten in a row. The Grizzlies

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Speaker 8: defeated the Pelicans in overtime one thirty three to one

543
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Speaker 8: twenty eight. When it comes to the NHL, the Avalanche

544
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Speaker 8: have won ten in a row. They just shut out

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Speaker 8: the Sharks six zero early in the third period. The

546
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Speaker 8: Mammoth are up on the Canadians three to two. Late

547
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Speaker 8: in the second period, the Senators are edging the Golden

548
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Speaker 8: Knights three to two. Just like the Canucks and the Ducks,

549
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Speaker 8: where the Canucks are up three to two and the

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Speaker 8: Krakenner up are no The Crackinger are losing to the

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Speaker 8: Stars two to one, but alex ovachikan Fell has scored

552
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Speaker 8: his nine hundred and eighth career goal and the Capitol's

553
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Speaker 8: top the Jets four to three. Lightning extend their winning

554
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Speaker 8: streak to five after beating the Flames five to one,

555
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Speaker 8: and the Wild now have won six in a row.

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Speaker 8: They edged the Blackhawks four to three in overtime. When

557
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Speaker 8: it comes to the NFL, four time Pro Bowl Detroit

558
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Speaker 8: line center Frank.

559
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Speaker 4: Ragnow is coming out of retirement.

560
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Speaker 8: The Bengals have activated Joe Burrow off injured reserve, and

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Speaker 8: Isaiah Pacheco, running back of the Chiefs, who's been dealing

562
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Speaker 8: with the knee injury. He is expected to play Thursday

563
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Speaker 8: against the Cowboys. In baseball, the Blue Jays are signing

564
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Speaker 8: pitcher Dylan Sees to a seven year, two hundred and

565
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Speaker 8: ten million dollar contract, pending a physical. Also, ESPN reports

566
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Speaker 8: at the Angels and Third Basement Anthony Rendon are in

567
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Speaker 8: talks about buying out the final year of his contract.

568
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Speaker 8: He is owed thirty eight million in twenty twenty six,

569
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Speaker 8: and he hasn't played in years. Okay, I'm exaggerating, but years.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, guys, I.

571
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Speaker 3: Just like the way you said Anthony's last name, Monzi

572
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Speaker 3: say just yet.

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Speaker 4: Please bendun Yeah, sure, bendun.

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Speaker 5: No, don't let don't make him do it?

575
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Speaker 8: Now what it's a good thing to practice rolling your rs.

576
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Speaker 8: You never know when you're gonna need it.

577
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Speaker 5: No, that's fine, But he tries to do the sensual

578
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Speaker 5: thing I just I cannot have.

579
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Speaker 3: I can't viola.

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Speaker 8: Spanish is a sensual language, you know.

581
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But this, this little pink Caucasian human being in

582
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Speaker 5: front of me rolling as ours is not central in

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Speaker 5: the least.

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Speaker 2: Well.

585
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Speaker 4: I you know, look, I can't help that.

586
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: My sensualness just comes through when I say buck rising?

587
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: Does that? See see these book rising on Jason Frish.

588
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Speaker 3: Stop that's right, Sometimes I whisper just to make my

589
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Speaker 3: co host uncomfortable.

590
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Speaker 5: Work.

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Speaker 4: You did great, You're amazing. Uh yeah, Look, I don't

592
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Speaker 4: even know where I was going to go.

593
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Speaker 3: I just started whispering and Buck, and now I forgot

594
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Speaker 3: what I was talking about.

595
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 4: Oh, Lane Kiffin, Yeah, Lankiff again. My my theory in life.

596
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Speaker 3: By the way, you can test this out while you're

597
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: hanging out with your family on Thanksgiving. Anything that you

598
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: say normal, that you whisper then becomes creepy. It's not

599
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: creepy when you say it, it's creepy when you whisper.

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Speaker 3: It Like if I look at Buck and I say

601
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: I like the hat you're wearing tonight, not creepy. If

602
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: I look at Buck and.

603
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 4: I say I like the hat you're wearing tonight, it's

604
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 4: very creepy. See what I mean. So just try that

605
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Speaker 4: at a Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 5: I don't like that at all. Not wonder Oh you're welcome.

607
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Speaker 3: I'm here to help. I'm here to help. I'll be

608
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609
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Speaker 3: tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how,

610
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Speaker 3: what and where they drive.

611
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Speaker 4: Buck wants to drive away from me, as fast as possible.

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Speaker 3: not sure what the way coach hiring should be, but

616
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Speaker 3: like there is some nuance to this, and I find

617
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Speaker 3: myself correcting my own thought process sometimes because Buck, we've

618
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Speaker 3: we've debated this on the weekend a few times about

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Speaker 3: where you can win a national championship. I'm a big

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Speaker 3: believer you can win a national championship and Ole Miss

621
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Speaker 3: right now. I mean, the proof is in the fact

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Speaker 3: that they should have been in the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 3: If their head coach hadn't helped them blow a game

624
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Speaker 3: against Kentucky, they would have been in the playoffs. And

625
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Speaker 3: the proof is in the fact that they should be

626
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs this year. So they have one of

627
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Speaker 3: the top NIL budgets in the country. You can win

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Speaker 3: a national championship at ole Miss. So many people like

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Speaker 3: me have been screaming, why would you go to LSU

630
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Speaker 3: when you can win.

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Speaker 4: A national championship at all Miss?

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Speaker 3: But also what if Lane just wants to go to LSU,

633
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Speaker 3: Like if one thing that Nick Saban was very right

634
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Speaker 3: about in his statement, if a player just decides they

635
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: want to play somewhere else, they can play somewhere else

636
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: in college football, really anywhere. If a coach decides they

637
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: want to coach somewhere else, they're just gonna go coach

638
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: somewhere else. We spent so much time trying to figure

639
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: out what job is the better job, when reality is,

640
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Speaker 3: if Lane just wants to go to LSU or Florida

641
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Speaker 3: in the way that this is now, in the way

642
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Speaker 3: wild West, he's got every right to do that.

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Speaker 4: And if he.

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Speaker 3: Built it an ole mess, he can certainly build to

645
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Speaker 3: build it wherever he goes.

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Speaker 4: So I understand the Lane portion of this.

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Speaker 3: What I don't necessarily understand is why there's this level

648
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Speaker 3: of absolute just buffoonery over hiring a coach that doesn't

649
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Speaker 3: have a landmark win, Like what is what is the

650
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Speaker 3: biggest win of Lane Kiffin's career? And this is where

651
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 3: people say just making old misrelevant is the biggest win

652
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Speaker 3: of their career.

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Speaker 5: Well maybe, yes, I know that's my entire argument. Thank

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Speaker 5: you for underminding me before I have the chance to speak.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, like just being able to win games,

656
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Speaker 3: didn't keep Brian Kelly employed, right, Like.

657
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Speaker 4: Just how many smiles miles stay?

658
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's the thing, Like this all gets really

659
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Speaker 3: confusing to me because, yeah, he's the best candidate available,

660
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: But is the entire college football calendar worth changing and the.

661
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: Entire way that everybody does business we're changing for Lane

662
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 4: Damn Kiffin.

663
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Speaker 5: Well, no, it's not Lane Kiffin, but it's what it represents.

664
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Speaker 5: It's what like represents, right, It's the opportunity for this

665
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 5: to happen again. I think that if you are talking

666
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 5: about the circumstance around Lane, yes it is. I think

667
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 5: it's exacerbated because it's Lane, because Lane leans in on

668
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: social media. Because Lane is dealing with an athletic director

669
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Speaker 5: that is comfortable putting out statements saying, will announce what

670
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: we're gonna do with Lang Tiffin after the egg ball.

671
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: I just think that's as bad a move as has

672
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: been made in the middle of all of this that

673
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 5: has stirred stuff up unnecessarily. You can say that Lane,

674
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: you know, is that he should be above this, Right,

675
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 5: He's supposed to be this change person, this and the other.

676
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 5: Lane Tiffin has changed a great deal about his life

677
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 5: and route to making himself again a success after all

678
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: the trials and tribulations of the early part of his career.

679
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that he's not allowed to lean into

680
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 5: some of this on social media the way that very

681
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: many of us would in our own lives. I think

682
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 5: your point about making it about Lane is correct, But

683
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Speaker 5: it's not about Lane. It's about preventing another situation like

684
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 5: this for a team potentially. Get who is in the

685
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 5: playoff picture, who should be able to be in the

686
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 5: playoff picture, who has earned the right to participate in that,

687
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 5: but who's being undermined by the fact that all of

688
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: these institutions fired their coach in season. It's thrown the

689
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 5: coach in carousel into a level of fervor that we

690
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 5: haven't seen so much so that James Franklin is getting

691
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 5: scooped up by Virginia Tech basically in the middle of

692
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: the season and is hanging out on the sidelines on

693
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 5: a Virginia Tech hoodie watching everybody else coach a team

694
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 5: that he's getting ready to take over next year. It's

695
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 5: just it's it's a very messy situation. So Lane, it's

696
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 5: impossible to remove Lane from the scenario. But you have

697
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: to think about how many times, how many more times

698
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: this could happen down the line with coaches of a

699
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 5: similar caliber. Once SEC money and that's really what it is,

700
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: once SEC money starts to get involved the way that

701
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 5: it has.

702
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Speaker 3: You're right, and that's why I think there's a massive

703
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: change that has to be made.

704
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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

705
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

706
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

707
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Speaker 3: If you're on the East Coast, Happy Thanksgiving. We've crossed

708
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: over midnight. It's officially Thanksgiving. You can start drinking now.

709
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: You have full permission. I mean that's the way that works, right, Like,

710
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: I don't know how there know.

711
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 5: Why people aren't already drunk at this point. I mean, buddy,

712
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 5: blackout Wednesday is a thing. I know that you and

713
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: your music theater child background don't understand how us, the

714
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: regular people, the normies, if you will celebrate just generally

715
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 5: any reason that we can to and vibe. But yeah,

716
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: most people are slashed by now. I mean, Happy Thanksgiving.

717
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: You can start drinking now, what do you mean?

718
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: Okay?

719
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: First and foremost of how many years on a tour

720
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Speaker 3: bus and do you think you're gonna tell me about drinking.

721
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: Good lord, I mean I don't think you under stand.

722
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 5: But drinking within the conventions of normal people, that's not

723
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 5: a normal experience. Oh I rode around on a tour

724
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 5: bus with a with a Grammy nominated band.

725
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: Would um win?

726
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 5: We won? We want you, simple child, you sweet summer child. Yeah,

727
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: where's your Grammary? Show it to me?

728
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: Show thirteen.

729
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 5: I want the actual Grammary. I want the actual Grammary,

730
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: not not some little certificate that says, yeah I want

731
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 5: a Grammy, but somebody else got to keep it at

732
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 5: their house. No, where's the Grammy?

733
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Speaker 4: Okay?

734
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: Thirteen nominations, So I mean that that that's pretty good, right,

735
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: thirteen nominations?

736
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: Pretty good? This is this is what we do.

737
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: This is what we do. I mean, look, I get it,

738
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 3: I get it. You know we can't all be reporters

739
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 3: covering the Titans.

740
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 4: Actually most of us could, most of us.

741
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 5: Could you want that?

742
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: Dad?

743
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: I don't practice tomorrow. I don't want.

744
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.

745
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: Does that team actually practice? Oh no, I'm just throwing shade.

746
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: I here's the question. Here's the question that the Titans

747
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: are not a fraud, right, Like the Titans are exactly

748
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: who we know they are. You can't be fraud. The

749
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: Titans just suck. Like, when you are that level of suck,

750
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 3: you're not a fraud.

751
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: Like.

752
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: But there are some teams in the NFL right now

753
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: that are coming into Thanksgiving and they're gonna suit at

754
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 3: the table and they're gonna tell you that they you know,

755
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: that they've found their significant other and that they've got

756
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: their life in order, and that they're up for a promotion.

757
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: And everybody sitting at the table knows that they are

758
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 3: sitting on a throne of lies. So let's figure out,

759
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: in honor of the liars at the Thanksgiving table, who the.

760
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: Frauds are in the NFL so far this season.

761
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Speaker 3: I am just throwing all sorts of shades at Thanksgiving

762
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 3: and in some of these teams. And I will start

763
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: with the team that we talked about earlier, the Ravens.

764
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Speaker 4: Are they a fraud to you? At this point?

765
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: The Ravens are not a fraud because they are a

766
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 5: team that is flawed. Like, I think that you have

767
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 5: to consider where the Ravens defense was, how they're managing

768
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 5: the situation. It's the early part of the season where

769
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: we're like, this is the worst defense that anybody has

770
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: ever seen is certainly associated with that uniform color, because

771
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 5: that's the thing that that franchise has prided itself on.

772
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 5: Now that Lamar Jackson is back in the mix, they're

773
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 5: playing a little more balanced football. They still have issues,

774
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 5: but I think six and five is appropriate. Now. You

775
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 5: could say, well, I picked them to win the Super Bowl.

776
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 5: Many people did that this past offseason, understandably. So the

777
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 5: Ravens were the number one offense in terms of DVOA

778
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 5: last year. They are as or they were as efficient

779
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 5: as anybody. They were as difficult to stop as anybody,

780
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 5: and there was reason to believe that they might be

781
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 5: able to carry that over into twenty twenty five. Lamar

782
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 5: Jackson gets injured. That throws things a wrench into things.

783
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 5: Their defense can't stop a nosebleed. They're losing by thirty

784
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: to the Houston Texans, who aren't a good offense with CJ.

785
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 5: Stroud in the lineup early in the year. So I

786
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: think if you are talking about relative to preseason expectation, yeah,

787
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: they haven't been what we all expected them to be.

788
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 5: But if you're looking at them right now and saying,

789
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: are you a fraud? At six and five. Now, I

790
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 5: feel like they're appropriately placed at six and five. They're

791
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: a division leader, they're talented enough to be, and they

792
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: should be able to outlast the corpse of Aaron Rodgers

793
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: and whoever Joe Burrow is going to try and fight

794
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 5: fight through with tomorrow. I know t Higgins is out

795
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 5: and jamar Che should be back from suspension, so we'll see.

796
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 5: But Trey Hendrickson also out in that game. So what

797
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: are the Bengals are rather, what are the Ravens up

798
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: against that would make them anything but the best team

799
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 5: and a bad division this year?

800
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Ravens are. You're right, it's pretty

801
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: accurate where they are. I think some of the conversation

802
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: around the Ravens is fradulent. I think some of the

803
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: people that just presume that now, like we've seen it

804
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: over the course in the last three or four weeks

805
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 3: where it's like, well, the Ravens are going to take

806
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: off and they're going to win the division. Yes, that

807
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: is true, because their schedule is soft as sharpman for

808
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: the rest of the way, right, So they're going to

809
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: beat up on some bad teams and they're going to

810
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: win some football games that doesn't mean they're good, right,

811
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Speaker 3: But to your point, I'm not sure they're a fraud.

812
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: What about Kansas City? Then, Like, are we at a

813
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: spot where we can call the Chiefs a fraud? Because

814
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, Buck, like I want this. I want

815
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: to call the Chiefs a fraud. I want to turn

816
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 3: around and say, all right, the Chiefs are kind of

817
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 3: a joke this year and they are broken and blah

818
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: blah all the things.

819
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 4: That we say about Kansas City.

820
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: But like I said earlier, if I'm gonna be real,

821
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: if I had to place a bet on my house

822
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: for or against the Chiefs, I don't feel good betting

823
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: against Patrick Mahomes.

824
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: So I don't know what to make a Kansas City.

825
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: Are they a fraud?

826
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Speaker 5: No, I'd put them in the same category as the Ravens,

827
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, because the things that are a problem

828
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: for them are not They're not fixed. Because they came

829
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 5: back in overtime at home against the Cults. The Colts

830
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 5: are a good team. That's a quality opponent that they beat.

831
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 5: It's enough to one keep Chiefs Chiefs fans hopes alive

832
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 5: and also two to strike fear into the rest of

833
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 5: the NFL. Be like, oh my god, they can still

834
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 5: do the thing. But can they still do the thing?

835
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 5: Or is that just a situation where the Colts screwed

836
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 5: around at the end of that game, couldn't run the

837
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: football with Jonathan Taylor, which has been their superpower, and

838
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 5: the Chiefs are good enough to come back at any

839
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 5: given point. I would say that that that the latter

840
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: is more accurate. I will tell you I think the

841
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 5: Seahawks are a fraud. I just saw the Seahawks play

842
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: here in Nashville, and I think that Jackson Smith and

843
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 5: Jigber is the truth. I think that Seattle's defense is

844
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 5: good enough to keep Sam Darnold in it. But I

845
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 5: saw Sam Donald not cover himself in glory against the

846
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 5: Tennessee Titans, who did not play a good game defensively,

847
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: who have put up, you know, a fight here or there.

848
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: They're a one to ten football team, so you make

849
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 5: of that what you will. But I just watched them

850
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 5: in person this past weekend, after seeing Sam Donald come

851
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 5: off that four interception performance, and I, you know, I

852
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 5: think he's still the same guy. I think that it's

853
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: it's enough to say, like I got what Minnesota tried

854
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 5: to do, right they made a move for a more

855
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: cost effective option that their head coach handpicked. Their head

856
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 5: coaches a quarterback developer. He's somebody who is going to

857
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 5: continue to believe that organizations ruin players far more than

858
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 5: players ruin organizations. So he said, all right, J. J. McCarthy,

859
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: you're my guy, and we'll let Sam Donald go on

860
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 5: to greener pastors and we'll figure it out from there.

861
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 5: And for a while, for the now eight win Seahawks team,

862
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 5: that's been enough, and he's been objectively good. He has

863
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: been worth the contract. But these last two weeks, it's

864
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 5: just it's signs of the end of last season right

865
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: where he's facing the Lions and he's under durest from

866
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 5: a pass rush or a defense that's playing better than

867
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 5: it probably should have been playing at the end of

868
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 5: the year, given all the injuries they had at the

869
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 5: end of last season, and that cost them the division.

870
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 5: So all of a sudden they're the wild card team.

871
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 5: They go into the Rams, and the Rams rough them up.

872
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 5: Because on any given day, Sam Donald against a pass

873
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 5: rush like that, he's going to look less less than

874
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: superhuman at this point in time. So I think because

875
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 5: of the fact that we have seen teams start to

876
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 5: expose Sam Donald the fact that they are a team

877
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 5: with a poor turnover deferential even though they have one

878
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 5: of the most explosive offenses in football, to get them

879
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 5: buy in these moments. I think the Seahawks are gettable,

880
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: and just seeing them in person felt like that ratified

881
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: that to make okay.

882
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: But I do think two things can be true to

883
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: your point, I'll buy what you're selling.

884
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: If we want to.

885
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 3: Talk about whether or not Sam Donald may not be epic,

886
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 3: I'll buy that if that's what we want to sell.

887
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: I still don't think the vikings lett him walk out

888
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: the door made any sense because you didn't have to

889
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: do it. You could have figured out a way to

890
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: franchise him and keep him. And that's where I get

891
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: a little bit nervous. As I said earlier, you know,

892
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: I understand wanting some level of I understand wanting some

893
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: level of cheaper options.

894
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 4: But I will just remind.

895
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: Everybody according to true media and make what you will

896
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: on this. But EPA per dropback is a big number

897
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: for quarterback efficiency all times since two thousand. He ranks

898
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 3: currently eight hundred and fifty one out of eight hundred

899
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 3: and fifty two in EPA forquarterbacks per dropback, the only

900
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 3: quarterback McCarthy does, the only quarterback worse since the year

901
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 3: two thousand was JaMarcus Russell. So I say all of

902
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: that to say that JJ McCarthy right now, statistically in

903
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: one major metric.

904
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 4: Is JaMarcus Russell.

905
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 3: And when you look at that level of disaster, two

906
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: things can be true. Sam Donald melted down. Sam Donald

907
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: may not be a world saver.

908
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 4: We'll see for Seattle.

909
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: I don't know that I'm ready to jump off the

910
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 3: train entirely, but currently as we sit right now, we've

911
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: had very little to JJ McCarthy.

912
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 4: When we've had him, it's been tragically bad.

913
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: So I don't think that there's any like The Vikings

914
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 3: put themselves in a situation where they have a roster

915
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: that was built to try and contempt for Super Bowls

916
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: right now, and they risked everything on their savants quarterback

917
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: whispering head coach that turns out can't whisper through the media,

918
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 3: the guy that they need him to be able to

919
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: get through with JJ McCarthy.

920
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: This thing's broken.

921
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: So I hear you, But I also just want to

922
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: at least throw the Vikings under the bus for letting

923
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: Sam Donald go. I think the Seahawks defense is so

924
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: good and Jackson Smith and Jig but is so good,

925
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: and their ability to run the football will save them

926
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: from being a fraud.

927
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 4: I do think that the Chicago Bears are a fraud.

928
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: And it's okay, Like it's okay that the Bears are

929
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: much better than we expected record wise, but man, you

930
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: look at the teams and the quarterbacks that the Bears

931
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: have had to beat this year, it's a whole bunch

932
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: of slop. It is just this year in the NFL,

933
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: more than recent memory. Who you play and when you

934
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: play them matters, and golly like the Bears have needed

935
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: miracle win after miracle win against trash teams. I would

936
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: buy that the Bears are frauds. Now it does matter.

937
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: They're in first place in their division currently. Enjoy Chicago fans,

938
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: and enjoy this whole run. Just remember next summer when

939
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: we're talking about the Bears the same way we were

940
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: talking about the Commanders this summer with the Hey advanced

941
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: analytics shows they weren't that good. They're going to take

942
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 3: a step back. Commanders fans tried to rip everybody's heads

943
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: off for it.

944
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: What do you know?

945
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: So just a reminder to everybody that I think the

946
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: Bears are frauds.

947
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 5: I think there's been appreciable growth in Caleb Williams. I

948
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 5: think that Ben Johnson deserves a lot of credit for that.

949
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: And I think that Ben Johnson and Shane Steichen are

950
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 5: the thing that every team in the NFL is chasing

951
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 5: right now, that there are only so many of those

952
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: dudes who are the kind of one personality type to

953
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: handle the job of head coach too adept enough at

954
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: the balancing of that job versus calling the offensive plays

955
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 5: for your team, which is no small thing. And I

956
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 5: don't just say that because I covered a coach who

957
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 5: got play calling duties taken from him in Brian Callahan

958
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 5: before he would go on to be fired. As if

959
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: there was a more pre fired move in America than

960
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: taking the play calling from a play calling head coach

961
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: that you specifically hired to do that, whether it was

962
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: Will Levis cam or or anybody else who's going to

963
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: work with here. The thing about Chicago that would concern me,

964
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: just in terms of down the stretch here is what,

965
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 5: how can I be harmed by the teams that are

966
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: sitting behind me, even though I've handled the competition in

967
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 5: my division pretty well so far, Like how big is

968
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 5: the golf actually? Between the Lions, the Packers, and the Bears.

969
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: We understand that Minnesota is getting left in the dust here,

970
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 5: so they're not relevant for the purposes of our conversation.

971
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur has come under some scrutiny because of the

972
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: way that the Packers' offense looks Does the Packers offense

973
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 5: look like that? Because Matt Lafleur is not a good

974
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 5: play caller and has forgotten all the things that have

975
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 5: made him very, very good at that job. Or the

976
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: wide receivers, the young wide receivers in Green Bay inconsistent.

977
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 5: They look a lot different without Tucker Craft the tight

978
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 5: end in the lineup, and Matt Lafleur is actually making

979
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 5: the best of a bad situation. How much can how

980
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 5: much can Dan Campbell make Jared Goff better? If Dan

981
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 5: Campbell is actually going to be in charge of play

982
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: calling here as opposed to Joe Morton in.

983
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: Detroit, Campbell has the play calling now, Yeah.

984
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: Right, because he did, the change was made. He looked

985
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 5: like a genius for a minute in time. He had

986
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 5: the glasses on the whole thing. But I don't know.

987
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 5: Are are we taking too much out of a one

988
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 5: game sample size and saying all right, but is that sustainable?

989
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 5: Is he going to be able to get figured out again?

990
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: The balance of managing those things like where are the

991
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: flaws for the other teams that are chasing Chicago or

992
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: on Chicago's heels? Right now, I feel about as good

993
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 5: as Chicago being able to mitigate their flaws as I

994
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 5: do these other teams catching them at this point in time,

995
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 5: which would basically make the argument against them being frauds.

996
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: You just feel a little more, at least me, I

997
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 5: feel a little more confident in what they have versus

998
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 5: what the other teams are up against.

999
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: It's just for me again. I'll go back to this.

1000
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: You say it with me, you'll get a kick out

1001
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 3: of this. Early they beat the Cowboys early in the year,

1002
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: particularly when the Cowboys, So this is the Bears we're

1003
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: talking about, yea. Then the Bears beat the Raiders, who suck.

1004
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: Then they beat the Commanders, who suck. Then they beat

1005
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: the Saints, who suck. Then they beat the Bengals, who

1006
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: say it with me, suck. Then they beat the Giants

1007
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: even without I think Jackson Dart in that game, I

1008
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: don't remember, but they suck. Then they beat the Vikings,

1009
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: who suck, and they just beat the Steelers, who.

1010
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: Saw Mike right, No, they do.

1011
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: So I was like, so for me, I just looked

1012
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: at it was like, I don't have a single win

1013
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 3: at all that for the Bears. Now the Bears coming up,

1014
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: I don't have a single win that. I look at that,

1015
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: and they say, oh my god, that proofs up. Now

1016
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: coming up Eagles, Packers, Packers, forty nine, Ers, Lions. I've

1017
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: listed all of their remaining games except for the Browns

1018
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: for one very important reason. So I look at Eagles, Packers, Packers,

1019
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: forty nine, Ers, Lions. I don't know what the Browns

1020
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: game is going to be. Those other five games, they'll

1021
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: be very very telling. Now, you're right, they could lose

1022
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: all five of those and still finish nine to eight.

1023
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: I just think that that's I don't think losing all

1024
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 3: five is I think that's a little disrespectful, sir. When

1025
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: we think of an eight and three football team and

1026
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: you look at what's ahead of them, I don't think

1027
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about Chicago in six weeks. The

1028
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: way we're talking about Chicago today.

1029
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 5: Well, just look at what they're up against on Friday.

1030
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 5: They're at Philadelphia. Those are two eight and three teams,

1031
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 5: like what is the And again, it will not define

1032
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 5: specifically how big the gulf is between Chicago and Philadelphia.

1033
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: If you know, Chicago were to fall short or Philadelphia

1034
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 5: were to lose there, I don't think we would be

1035
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 5: able to definitively say, yeah, that's how big the distance

1036
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: is between these two teams. If we're talking about a

1037
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 5: representative sample size. But they head to head, you know,

1038
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 5: to get kind of back into the college football playoff parlance.

1039
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 5: Had the head should matter and could matter, especially if

1040
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 5: they go on the road, if they go to Philly,

1041
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 5: especially coming off that loss that the Eagles just experienced

1042
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 5: at the hand of the Cowboys, which has to be

1043
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 5: at that's a long history and a storied his So

1044
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 5: I don't want to say it's as traumatic a loss

1045
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 5: as Eagles fans have ever experienced against Cowboys, but certainly

1046
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: in recent memory, it's as traumatic a loss as Eagles

1047
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 5: fans have had against the Cowboys. Where they're up, what

1048
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 5: was it, twenty one to nothing and the Cowboys roar

1049
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 5: back in the second half to just take it from them.

1050
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 5: That way, Philadelphia now has something to prove. There's been

1051
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 5: a lot of dialogue around Jalen Hurts in the media,

1052
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: whether it's founded or reported or rumors. At this point

1053
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: in time in Chicago's just kind of plugging away and

1054
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson's doing their the little good better best breakdown

1055
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 5: in the huddle, which is a little clunky to me,

1056
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 5: but whatever, if it works for them, they're eight and three,

1057
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: far be it from me to judge. We will learn

1058
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: a great deal about what Chicago has actually accomplished and

1059
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: what they can still accomplish after this Black Friday football

1060
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 5: game is played.

1061
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will remind everybody right now to eight and

1062
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: three teams, and Vegas has Philly favored by seven, a

1063
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 3: large number for two teams that are eight and three