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Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: What up Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Dude, So

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Speaker 2: tonight is game for the NBA Finals. And again anybody

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Speaker 2: can say like, oh, it's the biggest game. It is

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Speaker 2: a big game, and it's big for Oklahoma City, and

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Speaker 2: you don't want to go down three games to one.

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Speaker 2: But I will point out that if you go down

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Speaker 2: three games to one, you do potentially have two games

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Speaker 2: at home. And I think on paper the better team.

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Speaker 2: I thought a big issue in Game four for the

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Speaker 2: thunder Led in the fourth quarter was they played young?

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Speaker 2: What is playing young me? It doesn't necessarily mean they

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Speaker 2: played soft. It was just, you know, as good as

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Speaker 2: Shay Gildess Alexander is. You know in the overtime, I

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Speaker 2: used to be in the fourth quarter late two bad fadeaways.

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Speaker 2: Right like when he gets to his spot mid range,

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Speaker 2: create contact, creates space. You know what he does, pulls up,

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Speaker 2: shoots the ball like that's kind of his shot. I'm guessing,

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Speaker 2: you know, with kind of an open ability to release

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Speaker 2: he's dynamic but pressured fade away baseline right shoulder almost

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Speaker 2: I mean it. The difference, honestly is like a foot

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Speaker 2: about getting to their spots, but it really is, are

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Speaker 2: there spots like Shaye loves that pull up from right

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Speaker 2: And I thought Indiana did a great job forcing him

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Speaker 2: You have Chet Holmgren who struggled with his jump shot

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Speaker 2: the corner where he's cutting in constantly looking for lobs

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Speaker 2: late in that game three point shot, and that's because

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Speaker 2: he was out in the high slot or above the

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Speaker 2: more shooters in their lineup or figure out ways to

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Speaker 2: to make shots because right now Indiana's not carding him.

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Speaker 2: And then offensively for Indiana, I do think it's as

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Speaker 2: easy as Tyrese Halburton just needs to be aggressive.

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Speaker 3: Just this.

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Speaker 2: When he's aggressive, when he's taking shots, they're much better offensively.

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Speaker 2: They actually need his offense to win, which is a

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Speaker 2: just mean the team has confidence that you can make it.

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Speaker 2: It's that they lack confidence when you won't take it.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a little game for a preview. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know who's gonna win. I think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be really close. I'm guessing the Thunder win,

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Speaker 2: get it back to to to two. All they have

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Speaker 2: to be more kind of traditional finals. Feels like it's

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Speaker 2: going seven. Uh, but there is something about this Pacer team.

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Speaker 2: Lots of people talking about Oklahoma City looking like they're

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Speaker 2: tired in the fourth quarter, and tired in the fourth

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Speaker 2: And we're playing games with only one day off. One

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 2: Let's get to what the Fox says and now I'd

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Speaker 2: say every day this time the Doug Gottlieb Show. In

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Speaker 2: the Bonus podcast, let's play for your previous portion of

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Speaker 2: a FSR show or an FS one show. Here's Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick talking about Taylor Swift and Travis kelce being at

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Speaker 4: Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift did show up, and the

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Speaker 4: Internet did not treat them kindly because they're like, they

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Speaker 4: and Taylor Swift for going to the game, right. I

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Speaker 4: don't know, didn't I say something about your sport that

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Speaker 4: I got my Taylor Swift sweatshirt on today, you know,

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Speaker 5: But I can see the hockey purists. You have nothing

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Speaker 5: I can see someone's all in on hockey. They're already

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Speaker 4: your sport. It's the networks who do this. She doesn't

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Speaker 4: say I'll go, but you must show me fifteen times.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that I care. Just hockey fan is

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Speaker 2: don't know what we're talking about and we're looking at

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Speaker 2: not paying attention. If that's what you'd like, here's Chris

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Speaker 2: Burssard talking about the best landing spot for Kevin Durant KD.

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Speaker 3: Your rich climb and your manager and the Suns. You're

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Speaker 3: I get that the Suns aren't any good, but Kad

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Speaker 1: No, but that's his approach. So if that's the approach,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if it's just about mastering the game yourself,

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Speaker 2: You wanted to go there. Stay there. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I see I honestly see it both ways.

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Speaker 1: I say, be sure to catch live editions of The

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who What's annoying Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying.

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Speaker 8: Doug. I said. I said recently that I really like

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Speaker 8: Joe Flaco's ladder part of this career here, he's become

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Speaker 8: not here to mentor anybody. I'm I'm here to play football.

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Speaker 8: I want to be a quarterback. And then he weighed

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Speaker 8: in on dancing. Now, the context here is this, There

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Speaker 8: I think they had Flacco telling shaduor Sanders who was

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Speaker 8: here to work. It was a great like gen Z

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Speaker 8: here at work, we're not dancing. We're working. So then

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Speaker 8: he was asked yesterday about people gen Z tiktoking and dancing.

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Speaker 6: Oh, TikTok dances. The fact that people that is different

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Speaker 6: I I can't wrap my head around that, and like

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Speaker 6: I get it, Like you have kids, and like you

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Speaker 6: want to like you want to like have fun with

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Speaker 6: in private.

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Speaker 8: It makes a lot of good points here. I have

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Speaker 8: been tiktoking and dancing is a big part of that.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what to think about grown men who

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Speaker 8: dance on TikTok Doug. I certainly don't disagree with him

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Speaker 8: when he says that, like during warm ups when they're

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Speaker 8: you shouldn't be dancing during practice. That's that's for sure.

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Speaker 8: Who else dancing on TikTok. And then I wanted to

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 8: Because we can new feature, new feature on the podcast

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Speaker 1: Feature, new feature.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna on every Friday play the best sound of

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Speaker 8: we can. I don't think this's got enough love. Because

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Speaker 8: Caitlin Clark's not in playing any games. Nobody's paying attention

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Speaker 8: to these ladies. Kelsey Plumb after a game, motherfucked the

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Speaker 11: Shoot six three dogs is fucking absurd. And I got

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Speaker 11: scratches on my face, I got scratched on my body,

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Speaker 11: I don't know what I need to do. I talk

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Speaker 11: to the rest of nice, I pray before the game,

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Speaker 2: Oh it's so good, so good, it's just venting. That

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Speaker 2: of the game? So what do I do? I'm so

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Speaker 2: fucking sick of it. I love it well, I can

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Speaker 2: play for you because we can't. That's it for the

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Speaker 2: end the Modus Podcast. Check out the radio show three

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Speaker 2: to five Eastern Teto Pacific, Fox Sports Tradio, Ihart Radio app.

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Speaker 2: I'm Doug Gottlieb.