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Speaker 1: Live Golf heads to the JCB Golfing Country Club July

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Speaker 1: twenty five through the twenty eight one of the world's

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Speaker 1: best new courses. The venue will have its own home team,

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Speaker 1: Majestics GC, featuring Ryder Cup legends Ian Poulter and Leeland Westwood.

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Speaker 2: So this is the.

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Speaker 1: Last event before the season enters its final stretch. So

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Speaker 1: there is only three events to go after this one,

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Speaker 1: and it's tight at the top of both leader boards.

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Speaker 1: So in the individual stakes, Joaquin Nieman leads John Rahm

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Speaker 1: and Bryson Shambeau. So the field features a total of

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Speaker 1: fourteen major champions, sixteen Ryder Cup stars including rom To Shambo,

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Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson, Brooks, Keep Cud, Dustin Johnson. It is an

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Speaker 1: all star loaded field. If you want to catch any

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Speaker 1: or all of the drama from the JCB Golfing Country Club,

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Speaker 1: follow every shot live on Fox Sports. All Right, Danny Parkins,

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Speaker 1: we got to bring him on about once a month.

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Speaker 1: We've got some personal news for him that we're going

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Speaker 1: to circle back and talk about this and a bit.

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Speaker 1: I want to start about a story that sometimes in

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Speaker 1: this business, they're little shifts all the time in every business, right,

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Speaker 1: little shifts, and in our business, August used to be

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks played at least a little. They played a

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Speaker 1: lot in Week three, and then Sean McVay decided I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to play any of my good players. People

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Speaker 1: So I blame Sean mcvaigh for making August a really

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Speaker 1: awful month for sports talk radio. But filling in that

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Speaker 1: gap is the WNBA, which has now become a regular topic.

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Speaker 1: I can watch minute to minute our ratings, I can

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Speaker 1: the WNBA stuff moves a meter. So I find it

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Speaker 1: interesting that a lot of people are using this as

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Speaker 2: Well, I want my money back. I'm resigning it to

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Speaker 1: The whole part of this league is, guys, it was

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Speaker 2: I find it to be fairly obvious what you're saying,

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Speaker 2: They have two hundred and fifty million dollar expansion fees.

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Speaker 2: The Golden State Valkyries already have a five hundred million

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Speaker 2: arenas I know not every other team is, and every

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Speaker 2: The question is how much more money. I don't think

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Speaker 2: And so if someone said to you, Danny, you could

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to buy into the MLS twice, and both

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Speaker 1: So another story that I know you'll have a sense

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Speaker 1: that I've potentially marginalized you, if you don't share my opinion,

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Speaker 1: how do you view AI. I think it will change

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Speaker 1: medical history. I think space and medicine will benefit incredibly well.

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Speaker 1: We'll learn more about space the next five years than

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Speaker 1: we have in the last one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Same for medicine. Okay, So yeah, I mean you you

432
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Speaker 2: at at the very end there, you kind of got

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Speaker 2: to where I was going to go. I don't at

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Speaker 2: all claim to be an expert on this. I've just

435
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Speaker 2: gotten better at it in the last few years. For

436
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Speaker 2: anyone who doesn't know my brother Brad a couple of

437
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Speaker 2: years ago, passed away from glioblastoma. Gleoblastoma is it's terminal

438
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Speaker 2: brain cancer. It's cancer without a cure. It's one of

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Speaker 2: the worst types of cancer you can get. It has

440
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Speaker 2: a one hundred percent mortality rate. I've joined a Chicago

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Speaker 2: based brain cancer charity called brain Up. I'm on the

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Speaker 2: board of directors. We raised money to fund clinical trials.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I can do the fundraising piece of it and

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Speaker 2: the publicity piece of it. But I obviously when the

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Speaker 2: mal Naughty Brain Tumor Institute at Northwestern University submits a

446
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Speaker 2: clinical trial and they ask for five hundred grand, obviously

447
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Speaker 2: I'm not qualified to be like that's a good trial.

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Speaker 2: So we have a medical advisory board of neuroncologists from

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Speaker 2: around the country who volunteer their time, and they look

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Speaker 2: at the submissions from Russia, m d Anderson, Loyola, the

451
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Speaker 2: Chicago hospitals, and they're like, that's been tried at Duke.

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Speaker 2: That's bad science. Oh, that's pretty intriguing. You should fund

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Speaker 2: that one and way more often in the last year

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Speaker 2: of these calls that I'm occasionally on than the first

455
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Speaker 2: two years of the calls, I was on these people

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Speaker 2: are talking about AI. They really believe that they because

457
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Speaker 2: the brain is a supercomputer. They really believe that now

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Speaker 2: that we are doing some things. And this is a

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Speaker 2: little more in the weeds than maybe you wanted. I apologize,

460
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Speaker 2: Like there work. They can kind of get through the

461
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Speaker 2: blood brain barrier now with some ultra sound, and they

462
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Speaker 2: can get medicine to parts of the brain that they

463
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Speaker 2: otherwise had hit all of history, had not been able

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Speaker 2: to get it too. They think that they might be

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Speaker 2: able to with AI figure out how our brains are

466
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Speaker 2: wired and really make some headway in that space which

467
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Speaker 2: we have I mean Parkinson's, Alzheimer's brain tumors, Like it

468
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Speaker 2: has the potential to change everything with neurological disorders and

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Speaker 2: that's all AI. So like when people say it's going

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Speaker 2: to kill us all or it might save us all,

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Speaker 2: you know, like there's a real they're like, you can

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Speaker 2: I would be afraid of AI. This is a bad

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Speaker 2: example because it's already been replaced. Maybe, but like toll

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Speaker 2: booth worker is not really a job anymore. It's automated

475
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Speaker 2: technology killed that job, right, we have easy pass ipass whatever.

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Speaker 2: Clearly there are going to be jobs that get just

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Speaker 2: get cut coders. Yes, because the machines can do it

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Speaker 2: now that I have empathy for sure, But you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. So I don't know that it's necessarily

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent a personality profile thing what you're talking about,

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Speaker 2: because I think if you work in a hey, I

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Speaker 2: assemble this thing and then it's like, well, now we've

483
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Speaker 2: got a robot who can assemble this thing and they

484
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Speaker 2: don't get hurt, and they four hours than they're not

485
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Speaker 2: in a union.

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Speaker 1: A business partner of mine, I was golfing with him

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Speaker 1: in Rhode Island, so he was thinking of opening up

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Speaker 1: a coffee roaster in Rhode Island. So it would have

489
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Speaker 1: been years ago. He would have paid a consultant twenty

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, waited three weeks, and gotten a report

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Speaker 1: back eighty pages were eight pages. He sat down with

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Speaker 1: AI for an hour, fed all the information. A day

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Speaker 1: later he got an eighty page report for free on everything, economy,

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Speaker 1: people living within twelve miles, companies that would be aligned.

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Speaker 1: He was like Colin, it was eighty pages, the most

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Speaker 1: thorile thing I've ever seen. It was free, He goes.

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Speaker 1: That would have been twenty five thousand, He goes, I'm

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Speaker 1: an I'm just a businessman. I'm a small businessman, so

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Speaker 1: I think coding and consulting are in big trouble. Outside

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Speaker 1: of that, I have no idea. You know, you read

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Speaker 1: stories about white collar jobs. But I guess my point

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Speaker 1: to start this kind of you know rant, is that

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Speaker 1: when you go to the internet these days, you can

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Speaker 1: see it with politics and sports, there are people that

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Speaker 1: are just have a lot of anxiety. They're neurotic, and

506
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Speaker 1: whatever is introduced to the market, they have a negative reaction.

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Speaker 2: And I've really.

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Speaker 1: Noticed it with AI that the people that I follow

509
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Speaker 1: I think of as entrepreneurial and kind of optimistic.

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Speaker 2: They love it.

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Speaker 1: And the people that I've followed that tend to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of a buzzkill on the internet. It's

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Speaker 1: going to end. And the truth is the reality may

514
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Speaker 1: be somewhere in the middle. But when I go to

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Speaker 1: the Internet and people give me a reaction, the first thing,

516
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Speaker 1: and if it's a strong reaction, I have to it.

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Speaker 1: The first thing I do is go look at their

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Speaker 1: last fifty posts. I do that all the time.

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Speaker 2: Person, Are you yeah? And I really think so.

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Speaker 1: I find AI fascinating, not by what it can do

521
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Speaker 1: because a lot of it's so complicated. I don't understand it,

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Speaker 1: but people's reaction to it.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, people people generally speaking, fear what they don't understand.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe you don't, but I think a huge

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Speaker 2: percentage of people fear fear what they don't understand, and

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Speaker 2: it's complicated and you don't know where it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: It clearly is the type of thing though that is

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Speaker 2: like a tool, right, It's going to make some things

529
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Speaker 2: worse and a lot of things better. Your small business

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Speaker 2: owner example is a great one. It's going to help

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Speaker 2: that guy's business. How about this the Internet. It has

532
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: killed retail, but it took twenty five years, Like it

533
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Speaker 2: killed malls, but it didn't do it in two years.

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Speaker 2: And the people that were invested in malls, that paid

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Speaker 2: attention fifteen years ago were getting out of malls right like, so.

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Speaker 1: They got out of the business. So you're going to

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Speaker 1: have a heads up on stuff. Nothing happens overnight. Even

538
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Speaker 1: if it kills consultants, it will be over a decade

539
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Speaker 1: that it will kill consultants because not everybody's going to

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Speaker 1: use AI. Just look, it took our grandpa and our

541
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Speaker 1: Dad's years to figure out the Internet. So things just

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Speaker 1: everything needs to bake. You'll give you an example of

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Speaker 1: this in sports. So when the college football Playoff was

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Speaker 1: announced for twelve teams eventually fourteen sixteen, it cut right

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Speaker 1: down the middle. There were the people like myself that

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Speaker 1: are like, oh, this is awesome. December is gonna be awesome.

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00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: These bowl games are so dried up, Like we got

548
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Speaker 1: forty five bowl games.

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Speaker 2: I watched four.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was obvious, like December now is going

551
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Speaker 1: to be even better in December's great with NFL playoffs,

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Speaker 1: And we saw that to be true.

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Speaker 2: But there was another group.

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Speaker 1: Including a lot of the media, that said, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna kill rivalries. And my take is when Texas played

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Speaker 1: Georgia last year was the highest rated game, right, I

557
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Speaker 1: think before the National Championship. That's not a rivalry. People

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Speaker 1: watch good. When Texas plays Ohio State on Fox over

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Speaker 1: the Labor Day weekend, people watch good, and they'll watch

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Speaker 1: it a second time. You watched the Oregon Ohio State

561
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Speaker 1: the first time, well it was a terrible game, but

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Speaker 1: you'll watch it the second time. So my take is

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. We watched NFL football teams can play

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Speaker 1: three times in a season. I remember years the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and Ravens played three times. I watched all of them,

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Speaker 1: so that's like to me. I was shocked by the

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Speaker 1: number of people that college football fans, like diehards or

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Speaker 1: media that we're like, this is bad, it will kill urgency. Well,

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Speaker 1: what it actually did is it allows teams now like

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Speaker 1: Ohio State and Texas to play Opening Week and whoever

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Speaker 1: loses is fine. There'll be more big games in December

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Speaker 1: and more big games in September. Do you think it

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Speaker 1: makes the week one game less big?

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Speaker 2: Though? I watch great? I know, I know you do.

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Speaker 2: You are a super fan of college football. Michigan Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Last year, the loser of the game wins the national Championship. Yeah,

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00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: and on some level, not to a Michigan fan and

578
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: not to an Ohio State fan, but to a guy

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Speaker 2: who went to Syracuse, it did take away, and I

580
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Speaker 2: watched it and I will still watch it. It did

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Speaker 2: take away a little bit of the first Michigan Ohio

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Speaker 2: State game because it objectively matters less, but.

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Speaker 1: It didn't take it away in the moment as Michigan

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00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: was shocking them as a twenty point dog, it didn't hurt.

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Speaker 1: Then in retrospect you look back and go, well, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel as big. Well, that's like saying a year

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Speaker 1: after you got a Christmas present, I don't feel the

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Speaker 1: same today as I did a year ago when I

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Speaker 1: got the Christmas present.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, but I guess. But you take the

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Speaker 2: lesson and you go forward with it and you say

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Speaker 2: there's there is some like like the NFL has expanded

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Speaker 2: the playoffs right, easier to get in. We love the playoffs.

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00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: It's more football Week seventeen was terrible because most of

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Speaker 2: the teams were like sitting, were sitting guys and team

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00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: teams have been a limited and it's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: what's the difference between being the five seed and the

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Speaker 2: sixth seed? Like we're in, it doesn't matter. We're gonna still,

599
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Speaker 2: we're gonna sit guys, We're gonna play guys for a quarter.

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Speaker 2: So I think there is a trade off that comes

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Speaker 2: with more games and all that, and with college football. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I understood. I always was like, more games, I am

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Speaker 2: going to watch, more big games, more big games I

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00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: am going to watch. But I had a hard time

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Speaker 2: with the college football argument for the expansion of the

606
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: playoffs was like, how many times in the BCS era

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Speaker 2: even did you feel like the fifth best team in

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Speaker 2: the country deserved a shot at being the national champion.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that it existed. And so if your

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Speaker 2: argument is, well, expand the tournament, get them in, and

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Speaker 2: then any given Sunday they can or any given Saturday

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00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: they can win it, that's fine. But then it does

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Speaker 2: take away a little bit of the regular season to me,

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Speaker 2: And again I will watch, but I get My guess

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Speaker 2: is as they keep expanding this playoff, people will come

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Speaker 2: away with it. It'll when together and the right The

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Speaker 2: Week six game is not going to feel as big.

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Speaker 1: But in mid October, double the number of teams to

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Speaker 1: triple are still in the hunt for a fourteen game

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Speaker 1: playoff or a twelve game playoff. Where it used to

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Speaker 1: be if you lost a game in September, you lost

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Speaker 1: another when you were done, and so the last weeks

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Speaker 1: of the season you're out and going to talk. Now

624
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: like Ohio State loses to Oregon, then they lose to Michigan,

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Speaker 1: You're like, shit, oh my god, Ryan Day's going to

626
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: get fired if they lose the Tennessee. So the story

627
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: went from winning to Ryan Day's getting blought. Oh they

628
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: just blew up Tennessee. Well he better beat Orgon. Oh

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Speaker 1: they blew him out, Well they better beat So the

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00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: story changed from just the game to are they going

631
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Speaker 1: to blow up Ryan Day's career? So to me that

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: it pivoted from okay, Ohio State still going to get in.

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: But remember the right before the Tennessee game, Ryan Day

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00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: can't lose respired, So there was a different drama. It

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00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: wasn't and nobody thought Ohio State, most people even in

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00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: Columbus didn't think they were gonna win on Natty. After

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: losing the Michigan people were like, no, they were like

638
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: going overboard.

639
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah they were. It was insane and now you're gonna

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00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: get games like like Arizona State's gonna you know, they

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00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: made it and it was a nice story. And then

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Speaker 2: the spread in the game was like twenty points, right

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Speaker 2: for a college football playoff game? It does it? Just

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Speaker 2: it doesn't. That part of it is gonna feel a

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Speaker 2: little weird to me because can they win? Yes, But like,

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Speaker 2: was there any part of you that thought that Arizona

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Speaker 2: State could have gone on a run and won the

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Speaker 2: national champion? No? But but okay, zero zero part of you.

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Speaker 2: So it felt a little bit like a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: And now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes, Whiskey Business,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the official whiskey

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Speaker 1: of the Colin Coward Podcast. Okay, but I think there's

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Speaker 1: only five teams that can win the Super Bowl next year.

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Speaker 1: Going into the season, I think Kansas City not true.

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Speaker 2: That's just not true.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Buffalo, Baltimore are. They've just got better players,

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Speaker 1: better coaches. I think we both think Denver and the

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Speaker 1: Chargers are interesting, but bow Nick's hoisting a trophy seems rare.

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Speaker 1: We know Philadelphia is really really good, and McVeigh and

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Speaker 1: the Rams will be there, and then there'll be a

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Speaker 1: couple of really interesting teams. I don't think brock Purdy

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Speaker 1: now with an older team and a shaky old line works.

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Speaker 1: But I've been arguing this for years. There's way less

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Speaker 1: parody in the NFL than everybody thinks. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I know that because for the second year in a role,

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Speaker 1: I can pick the division winners easily in the AFC,

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Speaker 1: and it's getting to the point picking division winners in

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Six of eight is not that difficult. Okay, but do

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Speaker 2: you think Washington could have won the Super Bowl last year?

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Speaker 1: No, there's always a shocking team. I had picked the

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Speaker 1: Rams the year before as the shocking team. I picked,

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Speaker 1: by the way last year, Washington and Denver to be

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Speaker 1: the shocking teams.

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Speaker 2: How did I do that? Well? Because I think they.

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Speaker 1: Were so poorly run with Van Snyder that all the

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Speaker 1: New Guys' easy division wins against Dallas and the Giants.

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Speaker 1: So I actually picked Washington and Denver to be much better.

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Speaker 1: Like this year. I think it's obvious New England and

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Speaker 1: Tennessee are going to double their win total, so even

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Speaker 1: the surprises are pretty I've done four years in a

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Speaker 1: row where I've picked the double.

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Speaker 2: Year win team. It's going to be New England this

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Speaker 2: year and.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's go to struggle.

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Speaker 2: I I I don't. I find the division very weird.

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Speaker 2: Oh listen, I mean we could go we could do

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Speaker 2: the listen, well, we'll do a lot of Bears at

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Speaker 2: some point before the year. Here's the thing, big advantage

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Speaker 2: of the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a lot better JJ McCarthy, you're going

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Speaker 1: to see it very quickly. Is not what people think.

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Speaker 1: And the Lions lost both coordinators. So whereas we look

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Speaker 1: at the AFC West and go, god, that's a good division,

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Speaker 1: we say that about the NFC North, we don't know

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Speaker 1: about Jordan Love. We really don't. JJ McCarthy is a

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Speaker 1: c quarterback. You ever seen JJ McCarthy's fourth quarter college

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Speaker 1: stats and playing from behind fourth quarter stats in college.

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Speaker 1: With Michigan and Harbor on that on line, they're terrible.

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Speaker 1: Detroit's pulling back because they're on line in the middle

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Speaker 1: is a mess. And they lost both coordinators. That is

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Speaker 1: a is a real bonus. That division we think is

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Speaker 1: really well, it's well coached. I think the Bears have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to win ten or eleven games. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's as good a division as people think.

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Speaker 2: Well, then they would be a double ye win team

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Speaker 2: if they can get to double digits. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think that having the level of coaching in that division

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Speaker 2: is just very, very very high, And so I think

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Speaker 2: that that makes the worst team in that division. Like,

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Speaker 2: let's say you're right about JJ McCarthy, he still is

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell, Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson. Like they got

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins to be near five thousand yards, they got

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold one hundred million dollars. Like JJ McCarthy doesn't

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Speaker 2: need to be awesome in order for that offense to

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Speaker 2: be pretty good. And let's say Minnesota is the worst

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Speaker 2: team in the division this year, they won fourteen games

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Speaker 2: last year, it's it's it's a pretty good worst team

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Speaker 2: if that's what they are, Or if the Bearers are

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Speaker 2: the worst team in the division, that's a pretty tough

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Speaker 2: worst team. So like, even if they're not top heavy dominant,

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Speaker 2: I don't see there being any team in that division

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Speaker 2: that's just like straight up bad. There's no Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 2: in that division. You know, there's there's there's no there's

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Speaker 2: no Jets, there's no Giants, there's no push over there.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's what's going to make it tough

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Speaker 2: is that they each ste have to play each other

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Speaker 2: six times, and the team that does the best in

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Speaker 2: that division might go four and two. You know, they

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Speaker 2: might just beat each other up this year. Finally, two

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Speaker 2: minutes left, Yeah you get or two over? Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: So you have been added to First Things First. They're

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Speaker 1: expanding it by an hour as three shows were eliminated.

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Speaker 1: Casualties of TV always ugly and always rough. You're a survivor.

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Speaker 1: You go to the First Thing's first show, which has

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Speaker 1: great chemistry that I remember when I heard this about out,

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Speaker 1: probably a day before you did. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good show. That's where you

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Speaker 1: put Danny Parkins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think I knew a day before you, but I

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Speaker 1: was sworn a secrecy, so it wasn't like I had

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Speaker 1: bad news. I had good news. I just didn't want

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Speaker 1: to share good news. So your takeaway on it, I

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Speaker 1: think it's literally a perfect fit for you. It's like

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Speaker 1: adding to a really good baseball lineup, a good three hitter, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're not leading off or cleanup, but you're a good

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Speaker 1: three hitter.

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Speaker 2: You're Joe Morgan. You'll deliver runs. Happy to be Joe Morgan. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's surreal. First things First, is arguably the

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Speaker 2: best show in sports TV. Yeah, fronted by my best

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Speaker 2: friend for twenty years, and I'm getting added to it.

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Speaker 2: So it's a tremendous honor. I will do everything in

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Speaker 2: my power not to mess it up because they've got

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Speaker 2: an incredibly good thing going. It's fun to create a

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Speaker 2: new thing. Obviously, I'm bummed about breakfast Ball, and we

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Speaker 2: were having fun and was looking forward to another football

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Speaker 2: season to see what we could build there. It's a

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Speaker 2: very tough business and I'm just really thankful and excited

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Speaker 2: for the opportunity. And like that's a cliche, but the

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Speaker 2: first things first, The production team is incredible. Wild's is

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Speaker 2: a TV genius. Everyone in the world loves Brew. He's

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Speaker 2: just in a good mood every day. Nick is one

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Speaker 2: of those talented people in media. And like I said,

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Speaker 2: it's just going to be fun to be out there

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Speaker 2: with my best friend. How embarrassing is going to be

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Speaker 2: for Nick when I beat him in Football Picks again

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Speaker 2: on his show? Oh my god, it's going to be glorious.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be so glorious. Colin, did you have

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Speaker 2: a last year ever picking games? Last year was my

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Speaker 2: best year, epper. Yes, yes, sixty five percent against the

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Speaker 2: spread and no big, that's not that's really good. It

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Speaker 2: was really good. It was really really good, and I

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Speaker 2: think it. You know, how do you go up from there?

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Speaker 2: Sixty six percent, that's the goal.

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Speaker 1: That's just just to watch because Nick takes so much

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Speaker 1: pride in his picks, I know he does.

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Speaker 2: He can't beat. Yeah, he had a good year. He

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Speaker 2: was over sixty percent last year, which was good enough

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Speaker 2: for second place.

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Speaker 1: Danny Parkins FS one. First things first, the newest member

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Speaker 1: could see anybody. Good seeing you, Colin.

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Speaker 2: Thank you