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Speaker 1: Friday morning podcast. No guest today, I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: my instant reaction to the Nets Bucks Game six. And

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Speaker 1: I talked to Mark Cuban on Thursday night last night.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening Friday morning about Rick Carlisle and the

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Speaker 1: situation there, let's start with Nets Bucks Game six. I

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Speaker 1: think it's as simple as this. The longer that game

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Speaker 1: went on, the more exhausted and worn down Brooklyn looked

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Speaker 1: very competitive game. End of the third quarter, Nets gave

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a breaking point. Brooklyn fought back,

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Speaker 1: didn't have the energy Bucks go on a fourteen nothing run.

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Speaker 1: Don't kid yourself. We're asking these guys in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: with injured rosters to play more minutes when you're the star.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant looked tired by the end of the game

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Speaker 1: Bucks go on that big run. They have the juice

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Speaker 1: of the home crowd. Listen, I'll take Brooklyn to win

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Speaker 1: in seven. They're now playing without Kyrie Irving and with

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Speaker 1: That feels like Brooklyn and seven. If Kyrie didn't get hurt,

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Speaker 1: James Harden didn't get hurt, this is probably a five

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Speaker 1: game series. But Milwaukee can be a physical team with PJ. Tucker, Brooklo,

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Speaker 1: on the road four or five, you don't. Brooklyn wins

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Speaker 1: in seven. I just think it comes down to sometimes

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Speaker 1: these guys are human. We're asking him to play a

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Speaker 1: lot of minutes. The games are only forty eight hours apart.

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn looked gasted. Kevin Durant shot short off. He looked tired.

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Speaker 1: They come home, sleep in their own bed, feel good.

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Speaker 1: Win in game seven. That's my prediction. Sometimes the easiest

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Speaker 1: answer is what we deal with fatigue. Brooklyn looked tired,

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Speaker 1: especially kd who played forty eight minutes in Game five.

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Speaker 1: All right, Rick Carlyle steps down after thirteen seasons. So

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Speaker 1: I talked to Mark Cuban, here's what I will tell you.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of stories about Luca Dante not

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Speaker 1: getting along with Rick Carlyle. Mark Cuban felt those were overstated.

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Speaker 1: Lucas twenty two years old. He became a star this year.

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Speaker 1: It's a ton of pressure for a thirty two year old,

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Speaker 1: get a twenty two year old. So Luca comes to

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Speaker 1: the States, he's gotten big, bigger, and now he's about

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Speaker 1: as big as anybody in this league. Does he lose

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Speaker 1: his temper? Yeah, as Mark told me, look at the refs,

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Speaker 1: He and Carlyle had their moments. It wasn't about being

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Speaker 1: pulled out of games. That's never the problem. It's a

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Speaker 1: young player with a ton of pressure at twenty two

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Speaker 1: years old. Sometimes they snap. It's the reality. We're all

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Speaker 1: working our way through life. It's a lot harder when

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Speaker 1: you're twenty two and faced the tsunami of American criticism

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Speaker 1: and press. As far as the Maverick's overall. You know

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Speaker 1: my feeling on the story that Mark Cuban ran out

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Speaker 1: Donnie Nelson, Rick Carlyle, I know this. I know Rick

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Speaker 1: Carlyle he's an emotional guy. He and Mark Cuban meet

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Speaker 1: at that point. There's certain things Rick's not gonna want

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Speaker 1: as a perfect time to move on. And I think

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban was okay with it. This stuff's not easy.

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Speaker 1: Zion Williamson, another star, didn't like stan Van Gundhi, and

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Speaker 1: same forty eight hour period, Rick Carlyle and stan Van Gundhi,

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Speaker 1: two older coaches are gone. But when I talked to

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Speaker 1: Mark Cuban, he said a lot of it's just overstated.

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Speaker 1: Luca's a great kid. It's a ton to throw on

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Speaker 1: just getting his way through it all right. Time for

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Speaker 1: fake questions, real answers. I got a lot of questions

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Speaker 1: I want to answer, but I don't want to wait

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Speaker 1: for you to ask him. So here we go. Dear Colin,

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Speaker 1: They can fight off injuries. Great question. The reason the

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Speaker 1: arguably the best international player, John Paxton shot fifty percent

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Speaker 1: Bill Cartwright was a seventeen and seven guy eight years

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Speaker 1: that Scottie Pippen was the best Robin ever. It was

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Speaker 1: a stacked roster of all stars and specialists. Dear Colin.

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Speaker 1: In your episode Wednesday with Gary Payton, which I have

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Speaker 1: the most underrated player ever. Who do you think of

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Speaker 1: the most underrated players? Well, I'll give you one, Mark Price.

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Speaker 1: Most people listening to this podcast never saw Mark Price play.

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Speaker 1: He was a Cavalier first of all. He shot ninety

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Speaker 1: be a sturdier version of Steph Curry. Mark Price is

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Speaker 1: the most underdiscussed underrated player in NBA history. Honorable mention

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Speaker 1: Gus Williams. He's one of the great Pack twelve players

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Speaker 1: major League players now. Major League baseball players now are

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Speaker 1: They had a long runway. They could watch the mistakes

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Speaker 1: of other leagues. The NBA has done a great job.

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Speaker 1: They had a bubble, there were no positive tests. They

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Speaker 1: most of the guys getting hurt. We're hurting previous seasons

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Speaker 1: and beads hurt nurkicsch Ad kd, Kyrie, Chris Paul, Mike Conley.

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Speaker 1: These guys were hurt in the last four years as well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what percentage of these injuries or condensed

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Speaker 1: give the NBA a break. It's like a president who

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Speaker 1: inherits a recession or a national tragedy. I'm not seeking perfection.

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Speaker 1: Can you get through it? To every restaurant tour, to

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Speaker 1: every senator, to every state, to every business who has

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Speaker 1: been able to not only survive the pandemic but grow

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Speaker 1: a little tip of the cap to you, all right, folks.

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