1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: This episode contains content that may be disturbing to some listeners. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: Please check the show notes for more information. Disgraceland is 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: a production of Double Elvis. The stories about Jane's addiction 4 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: are insane. Their guitarist, Dave Navarro, was only fifteen years 5 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: old when his mother was brutally murdered in her apartment. 6 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: The killer escaped, and for nearly eight years he eluded capture. 7 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: Dave Navarro couldn't shake the pain of his mother's death 8 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: or the fear of knowing the man responsible was still 9 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: at large. He became addicted to heroin, and he nearly 10 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: died when he odeed in a London flat. His addiction 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: helped drive a rift in his band just as they 12 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: were reaching a critical and commercial height, and his band 13 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: Jane's addiction made great music, music that had a major 14 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: hand in defining the new alternative to rock and roll. 15 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Unlike that clip I played for you at the top 16 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: of the show that wasn't great music. That was a 17 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: preset loop from my melotron called twin Peaks prom Night 18 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: MK Two. I played you that loop because I can't 19 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: afford the rights to a clip from Baby Come to 20 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: Me by Patty Austen and James Ingram And why would 21 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I play you that specific slice of General Hospital Cheese? 22 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Could I afford it? Because that was the number one 23 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: song in America on March third, nineteen eighty three, And 24 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: that was the day that Connie Navarro and her friend 25 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Sue Jury were shot down in cold blood, a tragedy 26 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: that haunted Connie's sun as he was on his way 27 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: to becoming one of the world's biggest rock stars. On 28 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: this episode, a brutal murder, a killer on the loose, 29 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: heroin rock and roll alternatives. In Jane's addiction, I'm Jake Brennan, 30 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: and this is Disgraceland. It had been years since Dave 31 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Navarro trusted anyone, and he wasn't about to start now. 32 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Not here, not inside a Denny's bathroom, the kind of 33 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: place you go to cop a fix, to tie off 34 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: and shoot up alone. But Dave wasn't alone. He was 35 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: staring down a couple of rednecks, and he wasn't thinking 36 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: about trust. He was thinking about pain. He knew the 37 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: pain was coming. It was his reward for being different. 38 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: Dressed and cutoffs and fish nets. Last night's mascara a 39 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: little blotchy around the eyes. A real feast for these goons. 40 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Their muscles like topographic maps by the looks in them. 41 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: Just like Dave, they had a thing with needles, but 42 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: unlike Dave, they shot juice, not junk. It was feudle 43 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: to try and push past them. He was outnumbered, and 44 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: he knew exactly what he was doing by egging them 45 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: on and daring them to do the thing they so 46 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: desperately wanted to do. To kick his scrawny ass was 47 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: the matter. Guys aren't into fish nets, That was all 48 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: it took. The fists came at him fast, and there 49 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: was a loud crack as knuckles collapsed his nose. Next 50 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: came the blood, and then the pain. Violence wasn't just pain. 51 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Violence was sex too, And like sex, violence followed Dave 52 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: Navarro and his band Jane's Addiction wherever they went right 53 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: now in the fall of nineteen eighty eight, they were 54 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: way beyond Los Angeles, where they enjoyed their status as 55 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: one of the city's up and coming bands. Only unlike 56 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: the punks and the hardcore kids and the surfers, Jane's 57 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: addiction didn't come up from one particular scene, but rather 58 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: from the basement of all scenes, freaks who were fed 59 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: equal parts Zeppelin and butthole surfers in the dark, who 60 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: held no allegiance to one style, but rather wore all 61 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: styles on their sleeve, and when it came to their 62 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: actual sleeves to what they actually wore, they dressed like 63 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: they sounded, a wild mess of dreads, girls and skirts. 64 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: And just like Dave Navarro, Jan's Addiction's guitarist, the band's singer, 65 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: Perry Farrow, dressed however he wanted too. He dressed to shock, 66 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: even though in nineteen eighty eight nothing was shocking anymore, 67 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: or so Jane's Addiction claimed in the title of their 68 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: second album, but clearly there was plenty shocking, Starting with 69 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: the album's cover art, two females can join twins sitting 70 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: in a rocking chair, heads on fire, totally naked. It 71 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: was shocking enough to get the record band from six 72 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: major music retailers in the US. The music contained therein 73 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: was shocking in its own way, so outside the main 74 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: street that a new genre needed to be coined simply 75 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: to explain it, or so the story goes, but I digress. 76 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: At the moment, Jane's Addiction were winding their way through 77 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: the country, doing their best to shock on each stop 78 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: of their tour, daring anyone and everyone to look and listen, 79 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: all the while fighting their own existential crisis, the kind 80 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: that only an underground group of freaks with a collective 81 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: gold never to sell out can have. Because nothing Shocking 82 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: was not some little independent record that could. The album 83 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: was released by Warner Brothers, which, as any major dude 84 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: will tell you, is a major label, and as any 85 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: diy pump unk will tell you, is a strange place 86 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: for a band whose lead singer was known for ending 87 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: shows with his fist in the air and the battle cry, 88 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: whatever happens, don't sell out. You had to admit, though, 89 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: when it came to the majors, Warners was pretty cool, 90 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: and in the last year alone they let both Prince and 91 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Hoosker Do released double albums with complete creative control without 92 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: selling out. At first, Jane's addiction kept the corporate contract 93 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: a secret. Their street cred depended on it. But word 94 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: has a way of getting out, and talk is cheap, 95 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: so it wasn't enough for the band to simply say 96 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: they weren't sellouts. They had to prove it. Dave played 97 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: his guitar with a vibrator. Perry pulled his pants down 98 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: on stage, and they didn't conform. They confronted, and that 99 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: got them noticed. It also got them pain. Pain in 100 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: a Denny's bathroom in Delaware, and pain on the streets 101 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: of Florida. In Fort Lauderdale, the Cuban gang making their 102 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: way up the block to in the sight that was 103 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: Perry Farrell standing there with his friends, practically begging for attention. 104 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Gnarly dreads, was shit hanging and them green lipstick, green gloves, 105 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: delicate silk scarf around his neck, low hanging fruit. Hey, look, 106 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: the gang's leader said, it's boy, George. Perry had his comeback, 107 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: ready to go suck my dick, and the gang members pounced. 108 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: They rolled Perry and his friends, fist pummeled, faces, boots 109 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: to the chest. A kid in Perry's entourage was knocked 110 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: to the ground, his head slamming into the curb, blood splattering, 111 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: skull fractured, unconscious, nearly dead. It was fucked up, but 112 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: in his own weird way, Perry thrived on this, not 113 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: the attention or the conflict, but the pain. The kind 114 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: of pain Perry was familiar with ran deeper than a 115 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: beat down by a street gang. He knew pure pain, 116 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: the kind that settles in early and burrows in deep loss, heartbreak. 117 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: His own mother dead by her own hand when Perry 118 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: was just three. That's irreversible pain. Dave Navarro, his bandmate, 119 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: and his friend, could relate, and if he could relate, 120 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: he could trust. Not completely, but Dave trusted Perry more 121 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: than most, precisely because of his experience with pain. Dave 122 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: knew this from his own experience, because he also lost 123 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: his mother. He was just fifteen when she was brutally 124 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: murdered in her apartment, and now it was six years later. 125 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Dave was twenty one. His band had a record deal 126 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: and we're touring. He was living a charmed life of sex, 127 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: drugs and rock and roll. But he couldn't enjoy him. 128 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: The pain wouldn't let him, and neither would the knowledge 129 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: that the killer, the man who put two bullets into 130 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: his mother and left her for dead, was still on 131 00:08:51,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: the loose. Nineteen eighty three, the Westwood neighborhood in Los Angeles. Late, 132 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: the man easily found his way inside the apartment. He'd 133 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: been here before numerous times, and he knew how to 134 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: get in, even if the front door was locked, and 135 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: even if he wasn't welcome, the sliding glass door on 136 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: the second floor balcony was a cinch. He knew how 137 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: to climb to it, how to manipulate it from the outside, 138 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: hide in the shadows, and gently wrestle it open slip 139 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: into the bedroom, the bedroom he sometimes shared with her. 140 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: But that was over now, him and her them. She 141 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: ended it not because of his certain set of skills, 142 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: the kinds of skills that hel to gain access to 143 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: a locked apartment. She had no idea what he did 144 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: in his own time, the places he broke into, the 145 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: things he took, and that wasn't the problem. The problem 146 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: was him, or at least that's what she thought. That 147 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: he acted one way, but in reality was another. That 148 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: he was jealous, possessive, dangerous. She told him she didn't 149 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: want to see him anymore, and he simply couldn't accept it. 150 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: He was hardwired not to. 151 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: He called her repeatedly. 152 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes he didn't say anything, just listened to her voice 153 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: and got off on her frustration, her fear, and then. 154 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: He hung up. 155 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: He followed her to restaurants, He watched from afar as 156 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: she ate with other men and fucking pissed him off, 157 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: to be honest, and he sat there across the room 158 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: staring at her, just like on the phone. He didn't 159 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: talk here either. Instead, he made a gun with his hand, 160 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: his pointer finger the barrel, and his thumb that hammer. 161 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: He closed one eye and aimed the appendage directly at her, 162 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: and then he brought his thumb down slow click. In 163 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: his mind he could hear the hammer strike the pin, 164 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: and then the ignition burning hot. 165 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: In his hand. 166 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Now tonight, inside her apartment alone, he was no longer 167 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: pretending he was holding the real deal. A cult thirty eight, 168 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: one of the many guns he owned, all of them illegal, 169 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: might have actually been the same one he once hid 170 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: right here in her bedroom, down on the floor underneath 171 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: the mattress. For him, tonight, he was the one doing 172 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: the hiding. He was waiting and thinking, thinking about how 173 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: she rejected him, about how she ran around town with 174 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: other people who weren't him, other men. He seized and 175 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: kept waiting, but not for long. There the sound of 176 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: a key in the lock at the apartment's front door, 177 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: the clack of the latch, and the squeak of the door. Voices. 178 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: She had company, another woman with her. He didn't let 179 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: it sway him. If anything, he was now holding the 180 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: colt even tighter. His heart beat steady in his blood, 181 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: ran cold footsteps, a light switch. His eyes met theirs. 182 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: He raised the revolver, and they screamed. The sound of 183 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: the gunshot drowned them out. First, he shot her. The 184 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: bullet pierced the left side of her chest. It went 185 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: through her left long and then out her back. He 186 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger again. This time it hit her right 187 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: side through the aorda, the spine lodging in her ribs 188 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: at the back of her chest. Next, he turned the 189 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: gun on her friend close range. She had her hand up, 190 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: didn't matter. The bullet went through the base of her thumb, 191 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: into her jaw, severed her carotid artery, and exited the 192 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: back of her neck. Three shots, three flashes from the muzzle. 193 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: Then it was over. He stuffed the body of his 194 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: ex in the linen closet with a pillow over her face. 195 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: He left the friend face down on the carpet, and 196 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: then he slipped out into the darkness. When the bodies 197 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: of Connie Navarro and her friend Sue Jury were discovered 198 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: in Connie's apartment, Connie's ex boyfriend, the killer, a man 199 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: everyone knew as Dean, was long gone. Cops found three 200 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: handguns and a shotgun at Dean's apartment, along with four 201 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: sets of handcuffs. Like most things about Dean, his name 202 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: was a lie. In reality, Dean was a man named 203 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: John Riccardi. As Dean, John Riccardi was able to get 204 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: close to and manipulate not only Connie but her son, 205 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: fifteen year old Dave Navarro, who was in fact supposed 206 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: to be at his mother's place on the night of 207 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: her murder. But Connie and her ex husband, Dave's father, 208 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: who shared custody, changed plans last minute, so Dave was 209 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: at his dad's instead. Dave knew something was wrong long 210 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: before Lapd rolled up to his dad's house early the 211 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: next morning. Dave's dad had left Dave at home to 212 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: go check on Connie. She'd missed an appointment the previous 213 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: day and wasn't answering her phone. It was unlike her, 214 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: plus everyone knew about the trouble she was currently having 215 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: getting Dean to leave her alone. When Dave's dad returned home, 216 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: it was in the back of a police cruiser. Dave 217 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: watched the car come to a stop outside the front door. 218 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: His stomach churned. This wasn't happening, This couldn't be true. 219 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: But it was happening, and it was true. His stomach 220 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: was a knots tighter and tighter, and then the knots 221 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: split apart, and the pain oozed out. The world suddenly 222 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: looked different. It was distorted and dirty, as if he 223 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: was looking through a window that was smeared with grit 224 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: and grime, and there was no way to get it 225 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: clean again, to make everything like it once was. He 226 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: knew this, and that twisted gut of his just like 227 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: he knew his mother was gone before he got word 228 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: when she died. She took a part of them with her. 229 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Music helped to fill some empty spaces. Music was its 230 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: own south. The louder and faster was the better. Rock 231 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: and roll was good. Speed metal was better. Dave plugged 232 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: in and with fellow teenager Stephen Perkins on drums, made noise, 233 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: noise as distorted and dirty as life now felt. Ear piercing, 234 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: brain rattling noise. You could get lost in it, but 235 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: it didn't make the pain go away, not like we 236 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: eating a six pack anyway, and not like a syringe 237 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: full of dope. Heroin came later, and when it did, 238 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: it was like a whole new world waiting to swallow 239 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: them whole. But first it was fast cars and open containers. 240 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: Nothing was shocking and nothing was scary. According to Stephen Perkins, however, 241 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: what was scary was driving around partying with Dave Navarro, 242 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: and there were no limits, no rules. The cop who 243 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: pulled over the two kids tearing ass through the streets 244 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: of La understood this not at first. First he saw 245 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: the half empty beer cans, the drug paraphernalia. First, his 246 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: instinct was to treat this by the book. Then Dave 247 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: gave a stone sober look into the cops ray bands 248 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: with his own two fucked up eyes. I'm Dave Navarro, 249 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: he said, my mother, Connie was just murdered, and the 250 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: cop paused, that's right, God, what a fucking brutal scene 251 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: that was the poor kid, and the cop turned a 252 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: blind eye and waved them on. It was all about 253 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: the thrill of the risk, getting wasted, getting a pass, 254 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: going faster and faster down a hole into darkness because 255 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: there was no safety elsewhere. The only safety was risk. 256 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: Jane's addiction. The band Dave soon formed with Stephen Perry 257 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: Ferrell and bassist Eric Avery. Made this Plane thinking you 258 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: could actually make something of yourself as a band in La. Risk, 259 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: thinking you could rise above hair Metals, aquaint haze, Risk, 260 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: thinking you could mean something to the punks and to 261 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: the hardcore kids, and maybe even to the surfers and 262 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: those weird art fucks too. 263 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: Risk. 264 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: LA's music scene didn't look the other way like It's 265 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: cops did, X, the Blasters, the go Gos, Every band 266 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: trying to be different in La worked their asses off 267 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: and took huge risks. It was no different for Jane's Addiction, 268 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: and anyone who ever said that no pain, no gain 269 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: is a fallacy hasn't actually had to put in the reps. 270 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: It's all risk, it's all pain. To quote Jane's Addiction's 271 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: La contemporaries the Red Hot Chili Peppers. You got to 272 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: be ready to taste the pain. Jane's Addiction was ready, 273 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: but they weren't most bands. Most bands in LA in 274 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: the late eighties would have been psyched to score a 275 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: major label record deal. But for Jane's Addiction it was 276 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: a bittersweet because they knew they were compromising something their 277 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: artistic integrity for Hops or maybe their own souls. Going 278 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: from being one of the most confrontational and non conforming 279 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: bands on the La Strip to just another notch on 280 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers's belt almost felt like the beginning of the end. 281 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: It was a false sense of safety. Dave Navarro looked 282 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: to the dark for safety, and that led him to dope, 283 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: the ultimate pain killer, tie off and shoot up. It's 284 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: like bringing a blanket down over the face of pain, 285 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: smothering it as it screamed at you, fighting to exert 286 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: its dominance. But pain was no match for this shit. 287 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: Heroin said, fuck pain. Everything else just faded away. The 288 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: white noise hum of an ivanez feeding back through a 289 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: Marshall ant was now fading in, as was another scream, 290 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: this one from the mouth of Terry Farrell, high pitched 291 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: in raspy. Nineteen ninety, Jane's Addiction were recording three days 292 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: for their sophomore studio album, Ritual de Lo Habitual. The 293 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: song clocked in at over ten minutes, inspired by a 294 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: seventy two hour orgy of sex and drugs that Perry 295 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: shared with two women, an epic ode of life and death, 296 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: indulgence and risk all climaxing with Dave's layered guitars, metal sludge, 297 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: industrial grime, shrieking leads aimed at Jimmy Hendrix's ghost somewhere 298 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: above the clouds. And when the music ended, and when 299 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: the high wore off, it was time to start again. 300 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Another song, another tourniquet, not just to kill the pain 301 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: of Connie's death, which seven years later still cut deep, 302 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: but also to kill the terror that came with the 303 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: knowledge that her murderer, John Riccardi aka Dean, still remained 304 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: at large. Dave had no idea where John Riccarty was, 305 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: but John Riccardi knew where Dave was, and he also 306 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: knew that Dave Navarro was one of the only people 307 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: alive who could testify to the kind of sick animal 308 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: that John Riccardi truly was. 309 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this. We're We're, We're. 310 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Fifteen year old Dave Navarro was alone inside his mother's 311 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: Westward apartment when he heard a rattling sound come from 312 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: the bedroom. It wasn't his mother, Connie was out on 313 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: her morning jog. Dave went to investigate. He was discreet. 314 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: He found the noise coming from the sliding glass door 315 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: off the bedroom that went out to a balcony. Dave 316 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: could see someone outside trying to remove the door from 317 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: the sliding track and gain access. It wasn't a stranger. 318 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: It was Dean, Connie's boyfriend, technically Connie's ex boyfriend, the 319 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: guy she was having trouble breaking it off with. The 320 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: guy wouldn't take no for an answer, and now he 321 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: was here, breaking and entering. Dave once trusted Dean, but 322 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: now Dave was freaking out. He was terrified. He ran 323 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: to the bedroom and hidden the shower behind the curtain. 324 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: He listened as Dean successfully wrestled the sliding door loose, 325 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: and now he was inside, and the sound of the 326 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: sliding door closing immediately cut the noise from the outside world. Silence, 327 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: only footsteps, and they crept through the bedroom and then 328 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: into the bathroom. Dave didn't make a sound. Did Dean 329 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: know he was in? Here? Was Dean staring at the 330 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: shower curtain, about to reach his hand out and pull 331 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: it back? And then what what would Dean do to him? 332 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: Dave waited, paralyzed with fear, but nothing happened. Dean just 333 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: left the bathroom and walked downstairs. Dave knew he didn't 334 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: have much time. He also wanted Dean gone, especially before 335 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: his mom got home. And maybe the way to play 336 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: this wasn't to hide and hope for the best. Maybe 337 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: the thing to do was to confront Dean, but do 338 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: it by playing dumb. Maybe that would scare him off, 339 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: And that was the logic that made sense to a 340 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: teenage Dave Navarro. In his frightened state, he exited the 341 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: shower in the bathroom and called out down the stairs 342 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: to the first floor, Mom, Dean, is anyone here. Dean 343 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: came back upstairs. Dave pretended he was relieved to see him. 344 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: He told Dean that he thought he heard someone trying 345 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: to break into the apartment through the sliding glass door. 346 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: Dean walked him over to the door and examined it 347 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: looked good, no sign of a break in, he assured Dave. 348 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: Once again, Dave pretended that Dean was giving him peace 349 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: of mind and not scaring the shit out of him, 350 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: which Dean then proceeded to do even further when he 351 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: reached underneath the bed and revealed a handgun. Dave didn't 352 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: knowah kind of gun. He didn't know anything about guns. 353 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: It didn't even fucking matter. All that mattered was that 354 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: the psychopath was alone with him in his mother's bedroom 355 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: with a weapon, and this plan, if you could call 356 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: it that, this playing it dumb shit. The whole thing 357 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: was going sideways. Dean said he was upset that Connie 358 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to see him anymore and maybe he'd kill himself, 359 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: but he needed to talk to her first. Dave panicked, 360 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: he was out of ideas. He needed to leave. Go now, run, 361 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: Dave tore, asked from the bedroom, and Dean haller after him. 362 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: Hey. 363 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Dave was fast, but Dean was faster. He caught up 364 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: to Dave quickly and grabbed him by the arm. He 365 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: stuck the barrel of the gun in Dave's face, and 366 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: then he pulled a pair of handcuffs from his pants 367 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: and ordered Dave to go back into the bathroom, this 368 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: time not his mom's bathroom, but the one off his bedroom. 369 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: Dave did as he was told. Dean told him to 370 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: get on his knees and wrap his hands around the 371 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: back of the toilet, face down, head in the open 372 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: toilet bowl. Dave was crying. You can't do this, he 373 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: begged Dean. I can't move, I can't breathe, please don't 374 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: do this to me. Deane didn't listen. He just snapped 375 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: the cuffs around Day's wrists and left him chained to 376 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: the porcelain for thirty minutes. Dave was trapped, trapped, thinking 377 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: that Dean was going to kill his mother when she 378 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: got home and then come back and shoot him in 379 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: the back of the head. But when his mom did 380 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: get back, Dave didn't hear a gunshot. He just heard 381 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: the two of them arguing. The voice of his mother 382 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: loud and clear. Where's my son? Dean yelled out to Dave, 383 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: let her know you're okay. Dave, petrified trapped, yelled back 384 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: that yes, he was all right. He feared that any 385 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: other response was going to get them both killed. That 386 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: he heard more screaming, crying, the sounds of a hand 387 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: striking a face, and then, like before, footsteps. Then they 388 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: got closer. Dean was back alone, and he was suddenly apologetic. 389 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: He apologized profusely. He promised that he would never do 390 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: anything like this again, and then he told Dave one 391 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: last thing, Please don't tell anyone that I did this 392 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: to you. Seven years later, Dave Navarro wondered what would 393 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: have happened if he didn't keep that promise he made 394 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: to Dean aka John Riccardi. What if he had told someone, 395 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: and would his mother still be alive? He felt incredible 396 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: guilt over what he hadn't done. He felt pain over 397 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: the immense loss, and he felt shame when it came 398 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: to his own addiction. Heroin kept him in the dark. 399 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Heroin kept him sequestered to the back of Jane' Addiction's 400 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: tour bus, where he added more track marks and bloody 401 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: scabs to his bruised arms. He was sinking lower. He 402 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: was changing, and was so was everyone. Perry Farrell, about 403 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: ten years older than Dave, had never seen money in 404 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: his life, and now he had it. Jane's Addiction's second 405 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: studio album, Ritualdlo Habitual, released in August of nineteen ninety, 406 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: was a modest hit on the charts. The Modern Rock chart, 407 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: as it was then known, a chart that had just 408 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: been created two years earlier, decatered a rock and roll 409 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: that was decidedly left at the dial. The record's second single, 410 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: the infectious ben Caught Stealing, spent four weeks as the 411 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: number one modern rock song in America. All that success 412 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: and that money modest as it was went to Perry's head. 413 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: He figured that since he was the only member of 414 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: the group who wrote lyrics, that he was not only 415 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: entitled to fifty percent of future royalties, but he should 416 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: also earn one quarter of the remaining fifty percent. Perry's 417 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: insistence said he was sixty two point five percent of 418 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Jane's addiction courted controversy within the band's ranks, just like 419 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: Ritual Dlo Habitual's artwork corded controversy with music retailers. Similar 420 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: to Nothing Shocking, the cover of Ritualdelo Habitual contained nudity, 421 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: this time in the form of a sculpture created by 422 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: Perry that depicted him with two other women naked in bed, 423 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: and again music stores refused to carry it. Only this time, 424 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Warner Brothers issued a clean cover in order to get 425 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: the record on store shelves. White background, black text, the 426 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: band's name, the album name, the parental advisory sticker, and 427 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: then the text of the First Amendment, which read quote, 428 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, 429 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or bridging the freedom 430 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: of speech or of the press, or the right of 431 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for 432 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: redress of grievance unquote, the controversy, the confrontation, the risk. 433 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: You can't underestimate how much that naturally contributed to the 434 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: record's success. It helped give Jane's Addiction their moment, but 435 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: it was a fleeting moment. Perry's move to assert creative 436 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: and financial dominance was blessed by warners and cursed by 437 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: his bandmates. Dave took to wearing a shirt on stage 438 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: that read simply twelve percent, because in Perry's eyes, that's 439 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: all he was worth. Resentment crept in frustration, and then 440 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: that familiar feeling, the same one that Dave and Perry 441 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: and Eric and Stephen all had when Jane's first signed 442 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: to a major that this was the beginning of the end. 443 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: And it was roughly a year later. Jane's Addiction would 444 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: be over, at least for a while, but not before 445 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: something else ended. 446 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: First. 447 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Dave Navarro was dead, so said the message left for 448 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: Dave's father on his answering machine. It happened at a 449 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: squatter's flat in London. Dave was drunk by the time 450 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: he found himself inside, surrounded by other junkies. They shot dope, 451 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and Dave was so fucked up on booze that he 452 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: couldn't even feel the high, so he shot more, and 453 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: no sooner had he pulled the spike from his vein 454 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: and released the tourniquet from his arm, that he went 455 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: under deep to a place so dark, so safe, or 456 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: so he thought. The junk sent him beyond darkness, beyond safety, 457 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: to somewhere else, a place he had never been, a 458 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: place where the darkness actually gave way to light. Emerging 459 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: from a long tunnel, a bright white light, blinding, overwhelming, eternal, 460 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: and the squatter shook Dave's lifeless body nothing. They ran 461 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: a cold bath and filled the tub with ice cubes. 462 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: They used all their feeble junkie strength to lift Dave 463 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: into the tub. His skin went blue, and he was 464 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: on his way out, and they were sure of it, 465 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: and they panicked. They lifted him again, this time managing 466 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: to drag his limp body outside, where they tossed him 467 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: onto the curb and called an ambulance. You can't trust anyone, 468 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: even those who leave well intentioned messages on answering machines. 469 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Much to his father's relief, Dave Navarro was in fact 470 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: not dead, well, maybe he had been for a few 471 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: harrowing moments before paramedics arrived and revived him. Jane's addiction, however, 472 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: was very much on their way out. Even with Ritualdello 473 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: habitual climbing the charts, the writing was on the wall. 474 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: Perry's power grabs, Dave's all consuming habit. Dave's overdose in 475 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: a London flat in nineteen ninety was not the reason 476 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: that Jane's Addiction pulled out of their appearance at England's 477 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: Writing Festival that year. That decision was blamed on Perry 478 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Farroh losing his voice. But Redding got them thinking, why 479 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: were there most similar music festivals in America? 480 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 2: Now? 481 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they create one to fill that void? Not 482 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: just a one off, a traveling festival, twenty six shows 483 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: in twenty one cities, and not just music but art, 484 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: circus side shows, Shaolin monks, nonprofits of the counterculture, all 485 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: freaks just like that. Just Jane's addiction, but Susan in 486 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: the Banshee's Nine Inch Nails, Iced Tea and Body Coump 487 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: Living Color, Rollin's band in the Butthole, Surfers, the inaugural 488 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: edition of Lollapalooza in the summer of nineteen ninety one 489 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: is a snapshot of the so called alternative moment in 490 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: American music and culture at that time, mere months before 491 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: Nirvana blew up and took the underground mainstream. But at 492 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: its heart, Lollapalooza was a farewell tour for Jane's addiction and, 493 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: as it turns out, a well timed opportunity of Catharsis 494 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: for their guitarist. As the band was making preparations for 495 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: the festival in early nineteen ninety one, cops tracked down 496 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: John Riccardi aka Dean, in Texas. They found him living 497 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: in an apartment in Houston, just two month shy of 498 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,239 Speaker 1: the eighth year anniversary of Conne Navarro's murder. Wanted not 499 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: just in connection with the death of Connie and her 500 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: friend Sue Jury, but in connection with more than one 501 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: hundred burglaries in Chicago, Miami, New York in La Plastic 502 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: surgery had changed his face, falsified passports, had changed his identity, 503 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: but it was him. It was Dean, apprehended long last, 504 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: in part thanks to America's most Wanted. A TV showed 505 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: that debuted on Fox just a few years prior, and 506 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: whose aim was to bring real life criminals to justice. 507 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: That episode, incidentally was found on a videotape inside Riccardi's 508 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: VCR at the time of his arrest, that he can't 509 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: make this shit up. John Riccardi's bust was a long 510 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: time coming, but it wasn't a magic bullet for Dave 511 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: Navarro's pain. Unlike Jane's addiction, pain didn't just pack it 512 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: in and call it a day. Pain was eternal, as 513 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: eternal as that long tunnel of blinding white light at 514 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: the end of the darkness. But Dave wasn't following the light, 515 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: not yet. There was plenty of darkness left to navigate, 516 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: like when Dave became the star witness in John Riccarty's trial, 517 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: forced to live through the memory of being chained to 518 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: the toilet as a teenager. Dave's testimony helped put Riccardi 519 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: aka Dan Away, guilty two counts of murder, one sentenced 520 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: to die, and that sentence was later overturned on account 521 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: of an error made by the judge. But even though 522 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: California would no longer execute him, John Riccardi was going 523 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: to spend the rest of his days locked up, and 524 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: Dave Navarro got busy setting himself free, free from being 525 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 1: controlled by pain. Getting clean didn't happen as soon as 526 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: his mother's killer was sent away. It took time. Time 527 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: to claw out of the darkness, time to kick junk, 528 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: kick shame, kick guilt, and kick away from a life 529 00:33:42,600 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: of disgrace. I'm Jake Brennan and this is Disgraceland. Disgraceland 530 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: was created by Yours Truly and is produced in partnership 531 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: with Double Elvis. 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