1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm John Tucker and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 3: And Karen, let's start with the latest developments to end 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine. President Trump says Ukraine and Russia 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 3: are quote closer than ever before to a peace deal, 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: but he acknowledges that negotiations could still break down and 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: leave the war dragging out for years. Trump spoke yesterday 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: as he hosted Ukrainian President Florid Marzelenski at his Florida resort. 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 4: I really believe we're probably missed a president closer than 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: by far closer than ever before with both parties. We 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 4: had sometimes when he was close and President Putin wasn't. 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: Then when that President Putin was close and he wasn't. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 4: You saw that in the White House. But I think 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: they both want to see it happen. 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: Well, let's get more in the meeting From Bloomberg's Ronsalin. 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 5: Matheson, Ezelensky and Trump had a what would seem to 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 5: be a pretty productive conversation from Donald Trump's point of view, 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 5: at least warm words afterward. So progress on those areas, 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 5: perhaps on the role in size of the Ukrainian military 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 5: after a war, and some understandings around the Ukraine economy, 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 5: including the trade arrangements with the US, but not a 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 5: lot of progress on the really biggest issues, the stickiest ones, 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 5: And there it seems still we're quite away from getting 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 5: a full agreement and one that certainly Ukraine and Russia 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: would sign. 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: Off on, Bloombergs, Russell and Mathieson, says v Lotivarzelenski. So 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 3: see as President Trump to consider the possibility providing his 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: country with security guarantees that would last thirty to fifty years. 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: Well, John President Trump has another high profile meeting on 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: the docket as Mara Lago Resort in Florida. He's scheduled 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: to meet with Israeli Prime Minister of Benjamin Attiniahou this afternoon. 33 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 2: The two aimed a booster US broker and cease fire 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: in Gaza, which faces challenges as it looks to move 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: into a more complicated second phase. That phase involves rebuilding 36 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Gaza under international supervision, creating an international security force, and 37 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: normalizing relations between Israel and the Arab world. 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: And China kicked off military maneuvers around Taiwan that it 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: said included live fire drills to say had dramatic show force. 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: After the US announced one of its biggest arms packages 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: ever for the self run democracy, China has found to 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: quote take effective and strong measures to safeguard national sovereignty. 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: On Friday, it unveiled largely symbolic sanctions against twenty US 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: defense companies and ten executives. 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 2: John A powerful winter storm is sweeping east across the 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: United States, bringing a dangerous mix of snow, ice, rain, 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: and high winds, and we get more with Bloomberg Meteorologist 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: Craig Allen. 49 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 6: More than a dozen states with some kind of alert 50 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 6: or warning for a winter storm that is near the 51 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 6: Great Lakes and very powerful in moving towards the Saint 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 6: Lawrence River Valley. Have blizzards across the Upper Midwest, very 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 6: heavy snowfall in portions of the Great Lakes. There is 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 6: snow falling around Chicago, strong winds, damaging winds all the 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 6: way down through the Central Plains and the Tennessee, Ohio 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 6: Valleys into southern sections of the US and in the 57 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 6: East big lake effects snow just downwind of the lakes. 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 6: In New York State, there will be snow in portions 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 6: of New England. In fact, ice storm mornings for some 60 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 6: sections of New York, Vermont as well as New Hampshire 61 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 6: from Boston on down to New York City and Philadelphia 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 6: and Washington. There will be some heavy rain showers during 63 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 6: the day today and then followed by some very cold, 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 6: gusty winds. 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: And that's Bloomberg meteorologists Craig Allen are reporting. We will 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: be checking him with Craig throughout the morning. 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: And Carol, let's turn to the markets. Where futures right now, 68 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: I call it mixed. As we begin the last trading 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: week of twenty twenty five, still the stock averages hovering 70 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: near all time highs. And Robert Teeters, the chief investment 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: strategist at Silvercrust Asset Management. 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 7: The base case for next year is that we do 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 7: see very solid earnings growth, so kind of low teens 74 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 7: earnings growth, maybe a little bit of multiple compression now, 75 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 7: and part of that's just going to be a factor 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 7: of some of this rotation. Maybe you get a little 77 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 7: bit of pressure release valve out of the megacaps that 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 7: have been so strong, and I think strong for good reasons. 79 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 7: But as you get some of that rotation, multiples might 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 7: come down a little bit, So we're looking for high 81 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 7: single digit gains from equities next year, powered by double 82 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 7: digit earnings gains. 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: Silver Cresset Asset Management's Robert Teeter. So far this year, 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: the S and P five hundred up almost eighteen percent. 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: The Nasdaq is up twenty two percent. 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: John it's a volatile session and the commodities market. Silver 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: and gold are now lower after rising to records earlier, 88 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: and we get more with the Bloomberg Markets reporter Valerie Titel. 89 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 8: Today we're seeing some of the air come out of 90 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 8: Friday's blistering rally. Silver was up ten percent on Friday, 91 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 8: the biggest one day move since two thousand and eight. 92 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 8: If you look about the month of December, it's had 93 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 8: the biggest one month change since nineteen seventy nine, if 94 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 8: to go all the way back to the inflation days 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 8: of the seventy to see a similar rise in silver 96 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 8: in one month's time, up near forty percent just in 97 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 8: this month. This morning was quite a pronounced volatile session. Essentially, 98 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 8: silver moved eleven percent in an hour. It opened up 99 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 8: higher around six percent, breaking through eighty four dollars an 100 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 8: ounce for the first time ever. We've now come off 101 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 8: of that trading around seventy six dollars an ounce. 102 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: And that's one of our Marcus reporter Valerie Tyitel, who 103 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: again says gold is lower this morning after earlier rising 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: to a record, so is platinum, and. 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: Bank of America's CEO Brian moynihan says that maintaining the 106 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: banking system's independence is important. This comes as President Trump 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: is searching for a new chair for the Federal Reserve. 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 3: Here's moynihan speaking on CBS's Face the Nation. 109 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 9: Where a country's driven by the private sector, by what 110 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 9: people do, and in the businesses and the company, small 111 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 9: companies and large companies, medium sized companies and entrepreneurs and 112 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 9: doctors or always people drive our economy. The idea that 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 9: we are like hanging on a thread by the Fed 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 9: moving rates twenty five basis points seems to me we've 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 9: gotten out of whack. 116 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 10: Well. 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: Bank of America CEO Brian Mooinihan speaking on CBS's Face 118 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: to the Nation, and you can catch the program Sunday 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: afternoons on Bloomberg Radio. Moin Hands also says he expects 120 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: the Trump administration to de escalate trade tensions in twenty 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 3: twenty six, after the tariffs and shockwaves through the US 122 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: economy in twenty twenty five. 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: And we have an entertainment note this morning, John, Americans 124 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: are watching fewer new TV shows and more free TV. 125 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: In fact, free streaming services are growing more quickly than 126 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: paid ones, with YouTube being the fastest growing network on 127 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 2: TV and the Roku channel and two B also growing rapidly. 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: Netflix accounts are about two thirds of streaming hits, but 129 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: its lead is slipping. Its share of streaming viewership is 130 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: going down over time, and other major streaming services or 131 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: landing shows in the top ten on a regular basis. YouTube, 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: the Alphabet owned streaming service Eclipse Netflix is the most 133 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: popular streaming service on TVs a couple of years ago, 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: and it's never looked back. It is now larger than 135 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: Netflix and Amazon combined. Time now for a look at 136 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: some of the other stories making news in New York 137 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: and around the world, and for that we're joined by 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 139 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 10: Michael, Good morning, Good morning Karen. Two helicopters crashed mid 140 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 10: air in New Jersey, killing one person and critically injuring another. 141 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 10: The Federal Aviation Administration says The crash happened over Hamilton 142 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 10: Municipal Airport, about thirty five miles southeast of Philadelphia. It 143 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 10: happened in Caitlin Collins's backyard, who came out of her 144 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 10: house and tried to comfort the surviving pilot. Colin says 145 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 10: they could hear sirens as first responders raced to the scene. 146 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 8: They said, they got here so fast, four minutes. I 147 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 8: don't know. 148 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: All I know is I was sitting down there just 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: holding his hand, just holding his hand, maybe trying to 150 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: crack a joke, saying, I. 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Guess this isn't the way you thought you were to 152 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: start your day. 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: But we're here, like you're safe. We got you. 154 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 10: The NTSB is investigating, with a preluminary report expected as 155 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 10: soon as today. The man accused of place in two 156 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 10: pipe bombs in Washington on the eve of the January sixth, 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 10: twenty twenty one riot at the US Capitol told investigators 158 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 10: after his arrest that he believed someone needed to speak 159 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 10: up for people who believe the twenty twenty election was stolen. 160 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 10: Brian Cole Junior also said he wanted to target the 161 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 10: country's political parties because they were in charge. That's according 162 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 10: to a memo filed by the Justice Department on Sunday 163 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 10: arguing that Cole should remain jailed as the case moves forward. 164 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 10: Cole was arrested earlier this month on charges of placing 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 10: pipe bombs outside the headquarters of the Democratic and Republican 166 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 10: national Committees. A big change at the nation's largest public 167 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 10: transit system, New York City, officially ends its metro card 168 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 10: era at the end of the year. Jody Shapiro of 169 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 10: the New York Transit Museum says the swipeable plastic cart 170 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 10: replaced the subway token coin back in nineteen ninety four. 171 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: As a native New Yorker, I feel all the fuels 172 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: like people do. I don't want something that works to 173 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: go away. 174 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 10: The system switches fully to tap and go fares. Bridget Barde, 175 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 10: the French actress who became a global icon in the fifties, 176 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 10: died on Sunday. In nineteen seventy three, she quit the 177 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 10: movie industry to focus on animal rights. Bridget Bardea was 178 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 10: ninety one global news, twenty four hours a day and 179 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 10: whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News. Now Michael 180 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 10: Barr and this is Bloomberg. 181 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: Heret thanks Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, 182 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: and for that we bring in Dan Schwartzman. 183 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 11: Huge Week seventeen in the NFL, as the Patriots locked 184 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 11: up their first AFC East Division title since twenty nineteen 185 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 11: with a dominating forty two to ten went over the Jets, 186 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 11: while the Bills fought home to the Eagles thirteen to twelve. 187 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 11: The Brown stun the Steelers thirteen to six to night 188 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 11: Pittsburgh winning THEFC North and the battle of eleven win teams, 189 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 11: the Niners getting past the Bear forty two to thirty eight. 190 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 11: The Giants destroyed the Raiders thirty four to ten to 191 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 11: snap their nine game losing streak, while the Seahawks improved 192 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 11: to thirteen and three as a twenty seven to ten 193 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 11: win over the Panthers. Elsewhere, the Jaguars beat the Colts 194 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 11: twenty three to seventeen, Dolphins out last of the Buccaneers 195 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 11: twenty to seventeen, while the Saints capacit Titans thirty four 196 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 11: to twenty six. On Monday Night Football, the Rams will 197 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 11: battle the Falcons in Atlanta. That's your Bloomberg Sports update. 198 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Day Break coming up after. 199 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: This coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 200 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 201 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 202 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: Good morning up, John Tucker, who President Trump said, he 203 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: may quote, a lot of progress in the talks with 204 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: the Ukrainian president Vladimir Selenski was over the possible peace 205 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: deal in Rush's war against Ukraine. Let's find out more 206 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: this morning. We're joined by Bloomberg's Russia Economics Senator Greg Sullivan. Greg, 207 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: good morning to you, thanks for being with us. What 208 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: exactly have they agreed. 209 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 10: To so far? 210 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 12: Well, yes, President Trump did characterize those talks with Ukrainian 211 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 12: President Volodimir Zelenski as having made progress, but it is 212 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 12: a little difficult to see where exactly the progress was made. 213 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 12: President Zelenski did say that there was one hundred percent 214 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 12: agreement on the issue of US Ukraine security guarantees, which 215 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 12: was somewhat important given that this has been an important 216 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 12: issue for Kia throughout the negotiating process and they had 217 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 12: a little difficulty bringing the US on board. Of course, 218 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 12: though he said they have one hundred percent agreement, we 219 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 12: don't have the actual agreement or no, exactly the contours 220 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 12: of those security agreements. And he also said that on 221 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 12: the issue of Europe, Ukraine and the US security agreements, 222 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 12: they were only at ninety percent, so it's an important issue. 223 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 12: It's also hard to see what Ukraine and the US 224 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 12: can agree to that Russia would accept. Russia has long 225 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 12: thrown a spanner in the works on this issue, so 226 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 12: that's still tough to see. 227 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: Those security guarantees. How long would they last or what 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: does Zelenski want. 229 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 6: Well. 230 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 12: President's Lensky spoke with reporters today and he said that 231 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 12: he actually asked President Trump for a thirty to fifty 232 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 12: year commitment on the security guarantees. Obviously, Ukraine has sought 233 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 12: joining NATO as the primary security guarantee, but that the 234 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 12: US has tamped that down since the Trump administration started, 235 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 12: and that has been a non starter for Russia. But 236 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 12: it is really hard to see what Russia would accept 237 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 12: in terms of say, European troops on Ukrainian soil. They've 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 12: ruled that out in the past, but Ukraine wants a 239 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 12: security guarantee that's strong enough to dissuade Russia from simply 240 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 12: restarting hostilities down the road. 241 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: Now, what about territorial concessions of the part of Ukraine. 242 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 12: Well, this is a major sticking point and perhaps potentially 243 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 12: the biggest one that has been left mostly unresolved. President 244 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 12: Trump said that they had made some progress toward that, 245 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 12: but there was no additional details, and it's unclear where 246 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 12: they stand on that. Moscow has been seeking this territory 247 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 12: in eastern Ukraine, in an area known as the dun Boss. 248 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 12: Ukraine is concerned because part of it is heavily fortified 249 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 12: and if they seed it that could leave them vulnerable 250 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 12: to future Russian attacks. But it's also a politically charged issue. Zelenski. 251 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 12: It would not be popular among Ukrainian people to simply 252 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 12: see territory that Kiv still controls, and also legally hard 253 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 12: they probably have to be a referendum. So it doesn't 254 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 12: seem like much progress has been made. Russia has shown 255 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 12: no signs of backing down on this, and even over 256 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 12: the weekend, President Putin said that he's willing to continue 257 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 12: pursuing his goals militarily. So the two sides still seem 258 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 12: rather far apart on that issue. 259 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: In like the forty five seconds we have left, where 260 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: does NATO where's NATO and Europe in all of this? 261 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 10: Right now? 262 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 12: Well throughout the negotiating process since President Trump came to power, 263 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 12: Europe has really struggled to maintain a seat at the table. 264 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 12: Russia does not want them at the table. The US 265 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 12: seems to consider it not that important. But for Europe 266 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 12: this is very important. They see this as part of 267 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 12: their own security architecture. So NATO has been trying to 268 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 12: be involved in terms of security guarantees. It's obviously going 269 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 12: to be tough. 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